Camp Rock 2

Summary

Pod Meets World: Episode Summary – Camp Rock 2: The Final Jam

Introduction In this episode of Pod Meets World, hosted by Wilmer Valderrama and Sabrina Bryan, the duo dives into a nostalgic review of the Disney Channel sequel, Camp Rock 2: The Final Jam. Released on September 3, 2010, the film continued the story of aspiring young musicians amidst the glitz and challenges of summer camp life.

Revisiting Camp Rock 1 Wilmer and Sabrina begin by reminiscing about the original Camp Rock, recalling its vibrant visuals and memorable performances. Sabrina shares, “I remember the visuals. I remembered the camp stage where we saw the Jonas Brothers for the first time, really rocking out” ([10:16]). This sets the stage for their exploration of the sequel.

Production Challenges The hosts discuss the tumultuous production of Camp Rock 2. Filmed in Canada during the autumn, the crew faced harsh weather conditions that clashed with the film's summer setting. Wilmer notes, “They needed it to look and feel like it was the United States in July. But they were filming in Canada's autumn” ([13:23]). These conditions led to actor discomfort, slippery stages, and even illness, with Megan Martin developing mononucleosis from outdoor scenes ([13:23]).

Further, reports emerged about a toxic work environment characterized by bullying and manipulation from older men on set. Demi Lovato, balancing her burgeoning music career, struggled with the demands of filming. Sabrina mentions, “Lovato had created a thriving music career in between the movies, and now had new demands like staying at the nearby Four Seasons alone” ([14:00]).

Cast and Performances Camp Rock 2 boasted a talented ensemble, including Demi Lovato reprising her role as Mitchie and the Jonas Brothers returning as Nate and Jason. The introduction of Frankie Jonas as Trevor and Alison Stoner as Caitlyn added fresh dynamics to the cast.

Sabrina shares her admiration for the cast, stating, “The amount of talent in this movie is, is ridiculous. When you've got Demi Lovato, you've got the Jonas Brothers, you've got Alison Stoner” ([84:44]).

Soundtrack and Music The film’s soundtrack was a significant highlight, debuting at number three on the Billboard 200 and featuring the hit single “Wouldn’t Change a Thing” by Demi Lovato and the Jonas Brothers. The inclusion of Iron Weasel from Disney XD’s I’m in the Band showcased Disney's efforts in cross-promotion.

Wilmer emphasizes the soundtrack’s success: “The soundtrack included all the main cast and a fictitious band called Iron Weasel” ([15:57]).

Choreography and Dance Performances A notable point of contention between the hosts was the film's choreography. Both criticized the dance sequences for their lack of creativity and execution.

Sabrina expresses her frustration: “Most of the parts are just lame, especially the songs. Hate all the songs” ([71:27]).

Wilmer concurs, stating, “This was not my favorite movie. Besides the talent, I did not like the way the talent was directed” ([84:59]).

Storyline and Character Development The sequel follows Mitchie and her friends as they strive to save Camp Rock from a rival camp, Camp Star, led by antagonist Axel Turner. Key plot points include the death of the bodyguard Oliver, the intense rivalry, and the culminating Final Jam competition.

Sabrina critiques the storyline’s handling of relationships and character motivations: “I liked the first one so much better, but the star power in this bumped it up a little bit” ([86:33]).

Reception and Ratings Despite its challenges, Camp Rock 2 achieved commercial success, drawing 7.9 million viewers on premiere night and becoming the highest-rated cable film of 2010. Its subsequent DVD and Blu-ray releases further solidified its profitability for Disney.

Audience Reviews The episode features fictional audience reviews, highlighting varied opinions. One reviewer harshly criticizes Demi Lovato’s acting, while another praises aspects of the film, albeit with confusion over plot elements and song similarities to popular artists like Jason Mraz.

Conclusion and Host Ratings Concluding the review, Sabrina awards the film a 6.5 out of 10, appreciating the cast’s talent but criticizing the choreography and storyline. Wilmer rates it a 5.5 out of 10, emphasizing the poor dance sequences and unremarkable music, despite acknowledging the cast's potential.

Wilmer summarizes, “This is another 5.5, maybe slightly 6 to me at best. This was just not a great movie for me” ([84:59]).

Sabrina adds, “I'm going with a 6.5. This lady” ([71:32]).

Final Thoughts While Camp Rock 2: The Final Jam succeeded in maintaining the franchise’s popularity and showcased significant musical talent, the hosts felt it fell short in execution, particularly in choreography and storytelling. Nevertheless, the episode highlights the enduring appeal of nostalgic media and the complexities involved in producing successful sequels.

Notable Quotes

• Sabrina Bryan on Camp Rock 1 memories: “I remembered the camp stage where we saw the Jonas Brothers for the first time, really rocking out” ([10:16]).
• Wilmer Valderrama on production weather issues: “They needed it to look and feel like it was the United States in July. But they were filming in Canada's autumn” ([13:23]).
• Sabrina Bryan on choreography criticism: “Most of the parts are just lame, especially the songs” ([71:27]).
• Wilmer Valderrama on casting praise: “When you've got Demi Lovato, you've got the Jonas Brothers, you've got Alison Stoner” ([84:44]).
• Sabrina's rating rationale: “I'm going with a 6.5” ([71:32]).
• Wilmer’s summary: “This was just not a great movie for me” ([84:59]).

Final Rating

• Sabrina Bryan: 6.5/10
• Wilmer Valderrama: 5.5/10

Overall, Camp Rock 2: The Final Jam remains a mixed bag, appreciated for its cast and musical elements but hindered by its choreography and narrative execution.

Transcript

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[Sabrina Bryan]

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[Wilmer Valderrama]

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[Sabrina Bryan]

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[Wilmer Valderrama]

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[Sabrina Bryan]

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[Wilmer Valderrama]

I think we probably talked about this last time about had you ever been to a summer camp or not?

[Sabrina Bryan]

We did.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

We talked about that. So then I'm going to ask, have you ever been a Brownie or a Girl Scout? Did we ever talk about that?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think we have, too.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Did we? We got nothing left. Our relationship's over at this point. We have nothing left to discuss. Thank you for joining us on Magical Rewind. Good night.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Everybody's a sore app.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

This is gonna be a short, short episode. We have nothing left.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes, I was a Brownie.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

That's right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think I had mentioned that my mom, when she talks about how I was in my Brownie uniform, there was nothing I was more proud of at that age. I was like my Brownie uniform. I was just. Every time we put it on, it was very exciting for me. I loved all my patches. You know, it was a whole thing. And then I think I had mentioned. So a lot of my friends continued their Brownies. Actually, Adrian Bailon went through my. The. The. My friend, the Cheetah Girl.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Went through the whole thing. Like there's like a graduation.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

You can go all the way through high school that. Well, that's what I'm asking. So in Boy Scouts, it's easy. Eagle Scout is the one that's like the big one where you get a presidential whatever. I never made it there. I was a Boy Scout. Okay, so what's the. What's the Brownie and Girl Scout equivalent of an Eagle Scout?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Brownie is either the very first one or there might be one under it. It kind of goes by age, I think, is what I remember. So I think there might be like a little one under that. But brownie's kind of like the first. And then I think there's daisies. And then I think. Feel like it's just Girl Scouts. Like, you're just like, a girl, but then what's that?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

What? I'm like the. They have to have the equivalent of, like, the Eagle Scout in the girl Scouts, so it's something. Did you get a how to. How to dispose of a body?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I did one year of Brownies, and that was all my schedule will allow me to do, because then I was doing soccer and dance.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

What badges did you get if you didn't get the disposable body badge?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think it was disposable. I think I got, like, kind of like they were, like, kind of crafting ones or learning. I feel like we learned how to do the fire, but it wasn't like what you see in the movies. It was like you light a match.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Exactly. I was already smoking as a boy Scout, so I just pull out my Zippo. That was the easiest way to do it. But I am going to Google this really quickly, because now I really want to know.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Now you need to know.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I want to know what's the. What's the Girl Scout?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, so I. That's one thing that.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Of Eagle Scout, it pops right up.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

The Girl Scout Gold award is the highest, most prestigious award in girl scouting at quit. And I have scout and boy Scouting.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Quite a few friends in my area that continue to go through it. Like, and. And that. And my dad, I remember when, like, the youngest of my friends that we played soccer together. You're going to love. Her name was Lindsay Knuckles, and her mom and her were really big, really big into the girl Scout world. And so she was who my dad always would get the girl. Like, she would come to Fred's house, my dad, and it was like, all right, you gonna get your 40 boxes this year? And he's like, I'm upping it to 50. Girl like, you call your dad Fred? Well, when I put him in situations like that, when he's like, both my parents in a lot of senses to me, are like kind of my little cartoon characters. They're so cute and funny, and they've got the best, like, little stor. And, like, the fact that my dad is pretty much a cookie monster is just so funny. So I'm not kidding. He would have. He would buy 15 from this one. You know, they would all kind of hit up my dad, like, hey, are you getting it? Hey. I. I'm really low on my account this year. He would. He would. We would have them all year long because he would have so many. I know. And he was always such a good. Oh, really? You're not a mint guy?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I don't like mint. Like, to me, mint belongs in toothpaste. But for some reason, Thin Mints. Cold Thin mints from the freezer. I can eat those all day because it's like a hint of mint. They're.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes, mine. Mine are. Well, they used to be called Samoas.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And then got changed to caramel delights, I think.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Something like that. Tagalogs are good.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Peanut butter ones, I think. Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

There's a. There was a new one that I tried, so now I'm like, I can't stop. Go past them at the grocery store and knowing that they take Venmo Zell, they take everything. Like, you can't say, oh. You can no longer say, oh, I don't have any cash on me, babe. Right, sorry. Like, we take Zel Venmo.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh, man. That's why. That's when I just run away. And as I'm doing, I push the table over. I'm like, stop it now.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Put in the net. I can't. I can't walk by them. I. It's just too cute.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I told you. They set up. They set up for us out here sometimes in front of weed dispensaries.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. Which I think is brilliant. Brilliant. I mean, that is genius. Yes, Genius. Oh, good. I don't know what kind of parenting that says. I mean, that's brilliant parenting for me. No, I mean, it's brilliant parenting marketing. But, you know, the one thing I will say, and I don't know if I have walked past them, is the Boy Scouts, because they sell popcorn.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yes. This popcorn for, like, $90 a jar, though.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. This popcorn is so, so good, though. I will say that it's probably some of the coolest different types of popcorn I've ever had. I got three bags, thinking, same thing I would do at a girls. I'm not gonna get one box of cookies. I'm gonna get three, maybe four from you guys. That's gonna be a good little, like, little purchase for you. I got three bags of. I'm like, I'm gonna get one for myself. My dad likes one. My mother like one. So I got three. Why did I walk away? I'm not even kidding. It was like, $60.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I'm like, yeah, I did the same thing. I was like, I'll take two of those guys. Like, it's $85.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I went, I can't be the cheap old lady. I was like, oh, I can.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah, I got that. I'm giving this back to you badge that day. I don't want your Bobby. Well, welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs, and your super expensive popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses are smart, the wave tsunamis, and the Boy Scouts didn't bother you outside every grocery store. I'm Will Friedle.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And I'm Sabrina Bryan.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh, we're here. It was the 80th decom ever made. Yes, 8, 0 ever made. Yet one of the most popular of all time. But if you ask me, still not as good as Bandslam. This week we are tackling a sequel. It's 2010's musical Camp Rock 2. This time it's personal. No. Camp Rock 2, the final.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Final jam.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Jam. This is the last time any of them are eating jelly. The movie premiered on September 3, 2010. So easy to make you laugh, Sabrina. I love it. I am going to get that smoothie out of your nose one day. The movie premiered on September 3, 2010. This after the overwhelming success of the first Camp Rock, a hit that helped catapult both Demi Lovato and the Jonas Brothers into a new stratosphere of fame. So going into Camp Rock 2, were you able to recall how we Left Camp Rock 1 or anything from the original or did you need to do a quick kind of overview of what happened? I remember that. Where they were at camp and they were rocking. Other than that, I was a little bit lost. How about you?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I remember the visuals. I remembered the camp. I remembered the camp stage where we saw the, you know, where we saw Jonas Brothers for the first time, really rocking out, showing that they were a real band. I remembered all the visuals of it. I remember the mom, the uncle. I remember the characters. I couldn't. I mean, I don't remember.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Did you remember all the characters? I didn't remember some of her friends. I was like, oh, right. Oh, right. I remembered Allison Stoner.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

And I remember the. The bad girl. Because Megan. It's Megan. Because she was. She was on our show. Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I remember the other. The one. One of them. I don't remember their character names, but one of them was just at the premiere and I remember looking at her and going, oh, she was from Camp Rock. I remember. You know, and then the one that I had forgot was. Had the storyline of going out on stage by herself at the end performance.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And, like, went away from her. She was part of the Mean Girls and then broke away and did her own thing. So when she came on stage, I went, oh, yeah, I.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

For.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I wasn't anticipating, but once I saw.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I remember the dislocated shoulder. I remember the dis. Remember how she talked about how everyone thought she was dislocating her shoulder. I remember that. I remember that she dated one of the Jonas Brothers. Like in the movie she and the Jonas Brother fallen. But yeah, I picked it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I couldn't remember really what they accomplished at the end of the last movie, if that's what we're asking.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I could just beat the Mean Girls.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And that was kind of it. Okay.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Camp Rock 2 was shot all over Canada from Ontario to Toronto to King City. And it took just over a month to film. Now, we've heard a little bit about Camp Rock 2 in the past from various interviews, including our own with Megan Martin. And it seems like it was not an easy, easy production to complete on many levels. Let's just say from a number of people we've spoken to, Filming Camp Rock 1 and filming Camp Rock 2 were two very, very different things. First off, the weather conditions were anything but summer camp esque. They needed it to look and feel like it was the United States in July. But they were filming in Canada's autumn. So because of that, the actors were wearing shorts and spaghetti straps while in amazingly cold weather, even enduring rain and slippery stages where dancers were falling and injured. Martin even developed mononucleosis from filming the outdoor scenes. Could you tell Sabrina that it was raining? There were several times I was like, oh, it's pouring as they're shooting right now.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I couldn't at all, really.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Really didn't see that. However, the last campfire scene.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Pouring.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes. But the. I will say I filmed in Canada in autumn and it was for that first opening scene of the very first Cheetah Girls. And it was freezing and I had like a full nude bodysuit on under my. Like a thermalish kind of bodysuit under my. And it was. It wasn't enough.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

No, it was cold, it looked like.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And they were wearing much less than us. We were wearing way more layers.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yes. We have also heard reports of a toxic work environment instigated by some of the stars alongside bullying and manipulation from older men on the set. So, yeah, I think it's safe to say that this one just didn't have the same naivete or carefree atmosphere of the first production. Especially since Lovato had created a thriving music career in between the movies, and now had new demands like staying at the nearby Four Seasons alone, away from other cast members and demanding truncated tape days to record her music. But showing some real maturity and growth on her part, Demi recently apologized to co star Alison Stoner in her documentary about growing up in Hollywood entitled Child Star. Lovato even revealed she doesn't really remember filming Camp Rock 2 at all, blaming her own mental disassociation, a coping method for sadness and mental health issues. And honestly, that disassociation is something we've also encountered during our rewatch of boy meets world 2. Apparently, putting kids on TV isn't always the best route, but all this didn't negatively affect its reception. Camp Rock 2 drew in 7.9 million viewers on premiere night, a great number for the channel. It was the highest rated cable film for all of 2010 and its later DVD and Blu Ray release added even more profit to the bottom line. This was again an overall smash for Disney. And you know, if a movie stars Demi Lovato and the Brothers Jonas, we have to talk about the soundtrack. The album was released about a month before the movie premiered and debuted at number three on the Billboard 200 chart, selling over 40,000 copies its first week. The first single was Wouldn't Change a Thing, a classic from Demi and the Jonasesses. That's how I'm gonna say it from now on. But the soundtrack included all the main cast and a fictitious band called Iron Weasel from a Disney XD sitcom called I'm in the Band. This was quite a reach for Disney synergy and I'm in. The band only lasted two seasons, but you can't say the channel didn't try. So Sabrina, you were an integral part of Hollywood Records Disney music scene. Did you know who Iron Weasel was?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I did not and I feel terrible cause it seems like I should have.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

You should know the way if you're a big fan, you just call it the Wheeze. So I've been a big fan of the Weeze for a long time, but obviously you do not know who the Wiis is.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, no I did not know any of that. That was not in my in your wheeze house. In the Wheeze.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

That is for you. And yes, Camp Rock 2 the Final Jam is available to stream on good old Disney Plus. You can watch watch it right now and abandon us when it's getting good or listen to us all the way through now. But I can promise we won't get bad Again, we'll try our hardest, but it's up to you. Okay. Camp Rock. You've heard of Camp Rock 2, obviously. Cause we knew Camp Rock 1. Had you seen Camp Rock 2?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I had not. This was not something I saw, which is crazy because I feel like you're right. Like, this was. I mean, at this point, I want to say we had done the Disney Channel games in between the two Camp Rocks. So I was like, familiar on a person more of a personal level with all of the rest of the cast. Of course, I had already known the Jonases, and I loved everything that the Jonas did. The Jonas eye see the Jonas size. Yeah. So it's strange for me that I hadn't seen Camp Rock 2, but this was a new experience for me to watch. What about you Will?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Again? I knew it because we watched Camp Rock 1, and then our producers went, hey, we're watching Camp Rock 2. And I went, great, there's a Camp Rock 2. So that's how I had heard of Camp Rock 2. Well, before we challenge you to the final jam, why don't we hop into the synopsis? Mitchie and friends must band together to save their beloved music camp from a flashy rival across the lake that's stealing the spotlight and their campers. And why would we even act surprised at this point? Cap Rock 2 is directed by the dcom daddy, the man, the myth, the legend, the champ of the channel, the man that's keeping the entire medium afloat. That's right. I can't believe I'm saying it again. It's Paul. Attack of the Hoenn's. I, I, I did. He does everything. Now it's like it's getting ridiculous where.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It'S like, dude, I mean, we. It's at the point where it's like, I love you, Paul, but I need to give someone else a chance and watch a different director for films. I'm sorry, buddy.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I love you, though.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Love you so much.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I must imagine you're all sick of hearing this by now. But Paul Hoen is the prolific pioneer behind the current Zombies franchise and the other dcoms. Say em with me, folks. Cheetah Girls 2, Eddie's Million Dollar Cook off, the Luck of the Irish, Jump In, Let it Shine, and True Confessions, just to name a few. The man is to decoms what Jay Leno is to owning cars or wearing double denim. And cast wise, we have Demi Lovato back as Mitchie, one of the quintessential Disney breakouts of the time. She began her career on Barney as the dinosaur's left leg. A lot of people didn't know that. I'm kidding. As one of the dinosaur's child friends. Then she was brought onto the Disney Channel for an interstitial series called as the bell rings. Then this movie became her very fast elevator to the top of the music industry. She's since sold over 254 million records. And that's lots of records. The Grammy nominated singer has also turned her struggles into becoming a prominent voice for mental health awareness, substance abuse and the LGBTQ community. And then we have another legendary brand for not only the channel, but pop music in general. It's the Jonas Brothers, the Joe Bros. The jonasai brothers, eyes whatever you want to call them. Joe returns as Shane, 1/3 of a fictitious band, Kinect 3. But in real life is one third of the real life platinum selling. Jonas brothers, his siblings and band members Nick and Kevin also reappear in the film as Nate and Jason. Camp Rock 1 was all of their film debuts and they went on to become a worldwide phenomenon and now continue to grind musically both as solo acts and a reunited family band. They are currently on tour for their seventh studio album. Seventh? It is called Greetings from your hometown. And the Jonas train will probably never come to a full stop. They are integrated into pop culture forever.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Not if Lisa has our producer has anything to do with it, that's for sure.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

What? What?

[Sabrina Bryan]

She wants to end the giant fan. No.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That it will never come to a full.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh, that's it. If she is not anything. Oh, those Jonas brothers. She's gonna stop them. No, they will never break up again. She wrote ever.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I saw the doc. They will. They will never break up again.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh, well, yeah. Okay, well, we've got to see but new cast for Camp Rock 2. Yes, they are. Here we've got a cameo from Frankie Jonas, AKA Baby Jonas. Bonus Jonas. The baby Jonas.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We called him Baby Jonas.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

This is their younger brother who appeared as junior rocker Trevor in the movie. Frankie has appeared on TV shows and released music of his own over the years, recently dabbling into a more alternative genre. But here he's just their little brother stopping by, set to hang out and appear in Camp Rock. Former Magical Rewind guest Megan Jett Martin is back as Tess Tyler. Oh, Tess. The stuck up foil for the first film. She's a familiar face on the channel as a guest star. She's also starred in the sitcom version of 10 Things I Hate about you and voiced video games like Kingdom Hearts and the very fun Until Dawn, a game that also Used her motion capture face. Love little mocap. And welcome back. Alison Stoder as the NERDYDY Caitlyn Stoner. Pop locked onto the scene at just nine years old. That's pop locking. I know what that is. As a dancer for Missy Elliott, then as a child actor would appear in movies like Cheaper by the Dozen and Step Up. Oh, don't get me started. Also step up to the Streets. I'm not even getting into how Moose treated them. I don't want to get there. For animated show fans, she's also heard on Phineas and Ferb, Pete the Cat, and Young Justice.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Hold on. They are expected to be a nerd in these movies. I don't.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

That's kind of the role they always play as either nerd or tomboy or something like that. That's kind of how they cast them.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Did you see this character specifically portrayed actually as a nerd in any.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

In the first one. In the first one, they're supposed to be like the music nerd who plays the keyboard. That kind. I mean, supposed to be.

[Sabrina Bryan]

All right, I'll let it go. I just disagree. There's nothing nerdy about an Allison Stoner in any.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Of course not. But that's the. I mean, that's the role they tend.

[Sabrina Bryan]

To see this Caitlyn as. I didn't see Caitlyn as a nerdy teen. I just didn't see it right.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Not in the second one. More in the first one.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, I guess.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Quirky and.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, okay. All right, whatever.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Also new for number two. Sounded strange is Chloe Bridges as Dana. Chloe has been in a ton of movies and TV, starting with the ill fated Freddie Prinze Jr. Sitcom Freddie. Then appearing on show after show from 90210 to New Girl to the Grinder to Pretty Little Liars. And you've seen her in movies like the Final Girls, Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates and Venom, the Last Dance. She most recently was seen in two episodes of the hilarious Righteous Gemstones. And check your watches, people, because the movie clocks in at 97 minutes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Boo.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

We are seven over the target. A rare miss from Paul Hoen, who actually checks that clock. Like a 12th grader. Yeah, before the final bell of the school year. But here he was just slipping. Seven is too many. Seven is too many. Doesn't matter if it's Camp Rock or Cop Rock. Hoeing that in Paul, huh? You got that so nice, by the way. And we'll get into how I feel about the film, but 97 minutes, it felt like 97 hours. So writing wise, we have the original writers getting credit for their characters. That's Karen Gist or Gist, Regina Hicks, former MTV vj, Julie Brown and Paul Brown. But for screenplay credit, it's Gist or Gist and Hicks returning. They're a writing team with credits like Sister, Sister Girlfriends, Grey's Anatomy, and the Upshot. And this time they added Dan Berenson again, a common Paul Hoenn collaborator and possibly the most accomplished ecom writer in history. We've covered Dan for Eddie's Million Dollar Cook off, but he also penned Stuck in the Suburbs, Halloween Town High, Twitch's Cheetah Girls 1 World, the Hannah Montana movie, Teen Beach 2. It's two guys running the entire thing. He's a legend that Disney felt comfortable approaching for Camp Rock in hopes to extend their universe and capitalize on the first movie's success. When your daughter's learning how to drive and says, but can I drive? You say equally, here we go. But what you should say is something that helps protect your ride.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

And that's where State Farm comes in to help you choose the coverage you need so you can relax until you.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Hear, can we pick up my boyfriend?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Wait, what? Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. State Farm, Bloomington, Illinois. Hey, it's Ramos from the Life Is a Gringo podcast. And on this important episode, I'm unpacking how machismo culture and the need for validation can lead to a toxic relationship with sex and why real masculinity means protecting your partners and prioritizing your sexual health. We talk about the word validation, but really a lot of it is also like my lack of self worth during that time, Right? You know, I needed somebody else to tell me I was worthy, essentially. Right? And whether it was my guy friends, whether it was a woman, you know, and you want attention, and again, you're trying to get attention from the quote, unquote right people. And the unfortunate part about this, like, succumbing to sort of that peer pressure of society in general, is you end up hurting a lot of people along the way. And then you also put yourself in a position to negatively affect your own health, both emotionally and physically. You can listen to this special episode of Life as a Gringo brought to you by Healthy Sexual from Gilea sciences on the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Chiquis Rivera]

This is Chiquis from Chiquis and Chill. You know what they say, La familia estodo. Family is your anchor, your joy, your chaos, and your heart. The ones who make you laugh till you cry and then cry all over again. When life pulls you in a million directions, it's those little check ins on the family group chat that keep you grounded. Hola. It's Chiquis from Chiquis and Chill. And let me tell you, life would be boring without random memes from my nieces and nephews, chisme updates from my siblings, or surprise te kido video chats from my hubby. That's the stuff that keeps me sane and connected to who I am. By being a T Mobile member, I never have to miss a moment. Their experience plans give me unlimited calls, texts and data between the US and Mexico, plus unlimited texting and data in 21 Latin American countries when traveling. So no matter where I go, I'm never far from home. No lo pience en mass. Keep your familia close and join T Mobile. Visit T mobile.com conectate call 1-800-T-Mobile or send stop by a store to learn more. Exclusions like taxes and fees apply. Guarantee applies to monthly price of on network talk text and 5G data for accounts activating on an experience plan, not for extended international use. You must reside in the US and primary usage must occur on our network.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay, okay, Real talk why is the public bathroom the unofficial bestie club clubhouse?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. Like you walk in just to check.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Your lipstick and suddenly you're hyping up.

[Sabrina Bryan]

A total stranger in the mirror, glazing.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Your new besties with the you look amazing, Ch Chica. Go get that number.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Totally. Everyone should have a friend like us. Ready with the pep talks? You walk in unsure, you leave empowered.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It's that instant emotional connection, that little moment of transformation through random kindness.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like taking a shower with Method Body Wash. You step in feeling blah and come out like okay, skin. Okay, confidence Straight up.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Method Body Wash is like a fragrant sudsy hug that transforms transforms you. No?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Whether it's a bathroom, heart to heart or solo dance party in the Shower.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

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[Sabrina Bryan]

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[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay. It's a brand new day, so we can't back down and wouldn't change a thing. It's what we came here for. Let's get into Camp Rock. Duh. The French version. We open at the beginning of summer. Counselors are reopening Camp Rock, sweeping the decks, uncovering the boats, raising the umbrellas and testing the bell. Camp Rock is back, baby, and better than Ever. Connie's catering VW van is on its way. It's Mitchie with her mom driving and they are so excited. Mitchie promised Shane she text him when they were close. So she pulls out her time correct sidekick to let him know. Sabrina, did you have a sidekick?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I absolutely did. I had the pink one that was like a hot, like a baby fat or something, which was like a big brand name during that time. And it was like, it was pink. It was so cute. I loved it. I. I wish I could find it again. It's got to be somewhere.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

They need to bring all those back because I still want a flip phone. Mitchie's mom is visibly concerned about her constant contact with Shane. She doesn't want Mitchie to be disappointed if he can't make it to camp this summer. Mitchie promises her it'll still be the best summer ever and she'll be focused on her music either way. But then she notices a sign for another camp across the lake. It reads Camp Star. And the music suddenly gets very serious. Almost like they just spotted a dead body on the side of the road. This is concerning the sign or the dead body, frankly. But now we've arrived at Camp Rock and the kids are all showing up too.

[Sabrina Bryan]

First thing I went was, we're gonna have a battle of the bay.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Of course, it had to be something like there's always like, ooh, not Rich K across the way. It's such, such a camp trope.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I was so excited.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh, man, it was camp. I remember what it was. Camp North Star and Camp oh, whatever from Meatballs. I can't remember what it was, but yeah, this is such such an old school trope. It's like the good camp and the bad camp.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Nothing better. It's so good. I'm so excited.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah. Mitchie and her mom are unpacking the car when they are reunited with Caitlin. The girls rush off to their cabin. They want to be the first to choose their bunks. But when they open the door, they're surprised to see Ella and Peggy are already there. They scream at each other, hug and compliment how they look like only teen girls can do. And then we see Tess Tyler. Oh, Tess. Walk out from the shadows. She's all smiles, but has a question for Mitchie. She wants to know what her deal is with Shane. They all giggle, but Mitchie says nothing's going on and she's nervous that if they don't get to spend any time together this summer, nothing's gonna happen at all. And man, there's Some really weird acting here. I don't know if just listening to it is going to get across how unnatural it is, but let's listen to a clip.

[Sabrina Bryan]

What's going on with you and Shane, huh? Nothing is going on.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

That's a total lie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You guys are obsessed. No, seriously.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

So she's not mad at all. She's just joking with everyone, but she sounds mad.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Some of the. Some of the acting choices in this film were interesting. Let's just leave it at that for now. We then cut over to the Connect3 tour bus pulled over on the side of the road. Shane is just finishing a tire change, but his brothers and their security guard, Oliver don't trust his handiwork. Shane just wants to get to camp before Mitchie does. He has a whole plan about how they'll rendezvous and fall in love. And in the daydreaming, he realizes he missed a lug nut in the wheel, prompting the bus to slowly tilt over and roll down a hill right into this big lake. A big whoops. But also like a big. A kind of a huge stunt to start a Disney movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. And did. Did the bodyguard die?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Like, never saw him again. I think he was trapped on the bus.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And he also had this, like, aggressive running. Like he was really trying to get away from something. And then he's just gone. Yeah.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oliver. R.I.P.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oliver, what happened? Poor.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

He was trapped in the bus and dead.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Was that a real bodyguard? Was that their bodyguard? I'd love. I feel like Lisa would know.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

He is their bodyguard, Big Rob. Thank you, Lisa. This is starting to get creepy, Lisa. He was also Britney's bodyguard.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. Okay. I remember this because I feel like we had met him at some point during the times where we would run into.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Everybody loves Big Rob. So he was killed in a horrible bus accident, which.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But it did look like all of a sudden he's just gone. I'm like, whoa.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

God, I love Big.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Wow. And that was so early on.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It was a great way to start. I was like, oh, they got a bigger budget.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Got a death.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah, right. Got a horrible death. Back at camp, the girls are getting situated, but notice the camp isn't very crowded. Mitchie also reveals she has an idea for their opening jam song. She sings one line from it and the girls love it. But it's just one line. Mitchie rushes outside. She has an idea. She sits with fellow campers Baron and Xander with their guitars and drumsticks. And instantly, without even a word of prep, turns it into our first number. Brand new day. The girls Sprint throughout the ground. Synchronize with other campers. Dancing and singing about a drama. Free new start. It's a big first song. More Paramore style rock than we saw in part one. Has a lot more extras. It is packed. There's hundreds of people dancing, which is very strange since they just said it doesn't seem like there's a lot of people at camp this year.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That's what I would say about this big number. It just literally, they just had mentioned that there was.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Nobody's here except for the thousand backup dancers.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We have people coming down from. From the walkway, then coming from the door or from the. What are they called at camp? The bunks.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Bunks. The bunks, yeah. The. The cabins. The cabins.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Cabins. They're coming up from the lake. They're there. Like, it just. And then they fill. First of all, this is the first time we get to see this brand new, much upgraded stage than what we had in the first one. Did you notice that? No.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It looked kind of the same to me as it did. Oh, it's different levels because of the risers, right?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, it is much bigger. I mean, the. The stage for the. The. The kids to be on, to perform on is much bigger.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Gotcha.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And so we're. I mean, you're just starting to quickly see how much bigger of a budget was put into this movie than the.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

But it was just said there's not a lot of people there.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But there's not a lot of people except for, like, you know, five or six thousand.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

So what did you think about what. What did you think about the. The music and the dancing in this movie?

[Sabrina Bryan]

So the music was. I felt. I felt there was. There were moments. There were more, like, moments that I went, okay, this is what I love when, you know, we haven't. We'll get there eventually. But the ballad that Demi does, I'm like, this is. This is her. This is what they do. There's one song in particular that if we don't really break down, I'll do for the Sabrina Sees. Cause I had to look it up and see what was going on with that. But it wasn't as, I guess, elevated as what I thought it would be from the first one. I thought it was gonna be. I don't know. I don't know what I was. I was. I just. I honestly. And then I started going, am I just so in my zombie era that I can't pull myself back to, like, 2010? I can't get myself there, like. But I did love this first one I did, I thought it was like, okay, cute. This. All right.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

We're getting the dancing in the movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

The dancing in the movie. And I. I would not want to. It is. Was probably on my ladder of my list of. Of. Of likes that we've seen on the channel. This choreography is just good. And I don't know. It's because.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Why are they doing this all the time? First of all, and when you are throwing this into your dance routine, this is what I would do in eighth grade, because I don't know how to dance. So when I'm watching a movie and I'm pointing out things going, this dancing doesn't seem very good. And I know nothing of dancing.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And when you've got. I mean, the dancers themselves look like great dancers. You've got. I will say I wasn't expecting Demi to Look, there were. Demi had a few moments in the dancing that I didn't expect at all. She's not a dancer. She. You can tell for most of the time you see her being forced to dance, she's uncomfortable doing it. She doesn't love it. But then when she gets into that, this. This was a perfect thing. Let me just get to my spring of seas. Because this was, like, one of the things. This is a perfect example of Demi being told to dance in this movie. Then you put her on stage, and when she's just rocking out the different levels of a performance aspect that she has, like, she just jumps into this rock star of a.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Like the Jonas Brothers, they belong stage. Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes, exactly. She performs into it. But all of it, her getting to the stage, she's just doing these kind of uncomfortable moves for her. She doesn't feel like it really fits. It's not a part of her of who she was as, like, an artist and what she felt super comfortable doing. She could get through it. She didn't look horrible. But when you get her go and then go, all right. And you know, it's like, okay, now you're on stage. No choreography as far as, like, you're.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Just a rock star.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Do your rock star thing. And she just rips it up. You're just like, okay, okay.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I noticed that's what we converted into the whole movie. Again. I noticed that I didn't think the dancing was. Was very good.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's not.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I didn't think the music was very good. And hot take Camp Star was way better. They were way better. Every time they did a performance, they were way better. But it's. I'm just saying that's My hot take that I took away was like they're way better. But it's true, they're way, way better.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Anyway, I'm gonna. I'll everyone, I'll hold my opinion back before we get there since we all know where Wilson I just got a.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Crying emoji and I imagine that's crying because they agree with me. It ends on the opening jam stage. Mitchie has just finished the song. Camp director and uncle to the Connect three boys. Brown Cesario welcomes everyone to another summer. He begins to admit that there are less campers than usual, even though there's more campers than usual. But it's interrupted by the arrival of Connect3. They pull up in a flatbed of a chicken truck, a vehicle that Shane stumbles out of after his brothers tied his shoes together. Great kind of brothers moment. The campers are so excited to see the celebrities, especially Mitchie, who gives Shane a big hug. Brown announces that Connect3 will be at Camp Rock all summer long. A turn of events that Mitchie is thrilled about. The less exciting news, the smaller turnout, even though there's more of them this year, is because the new camp across the lake, Camp Star. It was founded by Brown's ex bandmate, Axel Turner. Ugh, love these names. And he is out to destroy Camp Rock. Apparently this Axl guy, though a sworn enemy of Brown's, owns a big time record label. And just as Brown tries to downplay the rivalry, two speedboats shoot parachutes full of s' mores ingredients and invites everybody to an opening night bonfire at Camp Star. Now I'm starting to get in. I'm like, ooh, good camp against bad camp. Great. The campers love the idea, but Brown knows it's some sort of a setup. That night when the kids arrive at Camp Star, they are blown away. It looks like a resort. They have a full on Hollywood bowl style venue, free hot chocolate and a wardrobe department. Brown and Axl reunite with a whole lot of tension and Axl seems like a real sunglasses at night douchebag. Brown is in the camp business to encourage the love of music and Axl's just trying to make rich pop stars. Axl swears that he's come in peace and that Brown is just being paranoid. But even the Connect 3 boys feel weird about this. Nick Jonas though. I'm sorry, I mean, Nate Gray noticed a Camp Star girl girl that he likes so he sticks around even if it means their family members will be unemployed at the end. Now in the elaborate stage, Axel welcomes everyone and encourages Anyone to come up and perform. When no camp rockers volunteer, Axel introduces his own group who perform an Usher style act for an R B song called Fire. Led by camper Luke, played by Matthew M. Dot Finley. It's a big dancer team with a ton of pyro. What did you think of this solo now?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I mean, I think it's like, literally when I read this part a Usher style, I mean, that's exactly what was done. It was nailed. It was a great routine. It, you know, it was a. A big performance. And it. It definitely. I think if I was a camp rocker would have been like, ooh, that's.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Better than anything we've ever done.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We've done nothing. Like, they've got costumes and crazy lighting. Look at this set.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I mean, yeah, bunch of dancers, pyrotechnics.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It was pyro good. Any. Any artist that. That knows. When you get on a. On a tour and you were told that you are getting pyro, you're like, ah, we have hit the big time.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I made it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I made it. Fire.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Excellent.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Fire.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Also, the girl that Nate thought was hot is the keyboardist. And mid performance, her bracelet flies into the audience and flies a half a mile and hits Nate in the eye. If they went cut to the large thing, he's like 500 yards away from her. Hits him right in the eye. But yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And she knows that it hits him. Yeah, he's so far. How would you know? First she, like, is like, oh, my gosh. I can't believe my. My. My bracelet just fell right off my. My wrist. Oh, God. And she's looking around. And then we find out she knows already that it hit him like. Like what? I could not eye roll big enough. I was just like, give me it.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Stop it. I can't do anything else for me. Yeah, too far fetched.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I did not like this part at all. Don't you dare do that to my Nick.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Thank you.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Give him some.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Is that Nick? Okay. Okay. I'm still learning. The brothers three.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I know them.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

When your daughter's learning how to drive and says, can I drive? You say equally.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Here we go.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

But what you should say is something that helps protect your ride.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like a good neighbor. State Farm is there.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

And that's where State Farm comes in to help you choose the coverage you need so you can relax until you hear.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Can we pick up my boyfriend? Wait, what?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. State Farm, Bloomington, Illinois. Hey, it's Dramos from the Life as a gringo podcast. And on this important episode. I'm unpacking how machismo culture and the need for validation can lead to a toxic relationship with sex and why real masculinity means protecting your partners and prioritizing your sexual health. We talk about the word validation, but really a lot of it is also like my lack of self worth during that time, right? You know, I needed somebody else to tell me I was worthy, essentially, right? And whether it was my guy friends, whether it was a woman, you know, and you want attention and again, you're trying to get attention from the quote unquote right people. And the unfortunate part about this, like succumbing to sort of that peer pressure of society in general is you end up hurting a lot of people along the way. And then you also put yourself in a position to negatively affect your own health, both emotionally and physically. You can listen to this special episode of Life as a Gringo brought to you by Healthy Sexual from Gilea sciences on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Chiquis Rivera]

This is Chiquis from Chiquis and Chill. You know what they say? La familia estodo. Family is your anchor, your joy, your chaos and your heart. The ones who make you laugh till you cry and then cry all over again. When life pulls you in a million directions, it's those little check ins on the family group chat that keep you grounded. Hola, It's Chiquis from Chiquis and Chill. And let me tell you, life would be boring without random memes from my nieces and nephews, chisme updates from my siblings, or surprise te quiero video chats from my hubby. That's the stuff that keeps me sane and connected to who I am. By being a T Mobile member, I never have to miss a moment. Their experience plans give me unlimited calls, texts and data between the US and Mexico, plus unlimited texting and data in 21 Latin American countries when traveling. So no matter where I go, I'm never far from home. No lolo pie en semilia. Close and join T Mobile. Visit T mobile.com conectate call 1-800-T-Mobile or stop by a store to learn more. Exclusions like taxes and fees apply. Guarantee applies to monthly price of on network Talk, text and 5G data for accounts activating on an experience plan, not for extended international use. You must reside in the US and primary usage must occur on our network.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

How do you get into Comerte el mundo mode? You know, the one that mindset that says lo puedo todo game on no importa. Lo quo que venga Ya se on work email New drama brewing o el grupo chat que tansendi o no importa. You're ready. Some people need a hype squad. Yo, I just need un momentico in front of the bathroom mirror. Fresh out of the shower with Method Body Wash. It's an instant reset. I feel energized and confident. Lito paradodo atal trafico. Method brings the es pumita that leaves your skin hydrated and smelling great. Congestos sense ricos so you can set the tone. Con confianz al sien. Think of Method like a hype squad in a bottle. Pero hue le mucho mejor. Method transforms you turn your everyday shower into a moment to remember. And try Method Body Wash. Now Camp Star is in a league of their own. And Axel announces that if any Camp Rock counselors or staff want to switch to Camp Star, he'll double their salary. And if any campers want to move across the lake, he has an air conditioned bunk waiting for them. And I had already moved into the air conditioned bunk in my mind.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, they don't have air conditioning.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Bye.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm out. Sorry, guys.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

See ya. And so defectors, including Sabrina and myself, start to make their moves by the dozens. Brown wrangles who's left back into the boats. And Nick gets that bracelet back to the keyboardist Dana, who reveals herself to be Drumroll. Axel's daughter. Uh oh. Forbidden. Yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm like, oh my gosh, yes. Oh, this is good. I love these stories.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I'm telling you. And while leaving, Mitchie finds the camp's impressive recording studio and meets Luke Williams, the R and B dude from the stage. He tries to recruit her to Camp Star, calling himself the Real Deal. And Camp Rock Amateur Hour. And just as Mitchie is confidently standing up for a home turf. Tess. Oh, Tess announces she's making the switch. Of course she is back at camp again. I would too. Back in Camp Rock the next morning, Brown announces they only lost a few campers in the end, but a lot of staffers did leave. So as a result, he has to close the camp. But Mitchie and Connect3 aren't having it. It. Mitchie starts the next song, Can't Back down, which was weird. I'm sorry. Just the way she starts with like the. And everybody's like. And it was like, what's. What, what's happening? What's going on right now? It was weird. It just.

[Sabrina Bryan]

All the choreography in this one. The first one was more musical theatery. Kind of. You know, I would say it was more of like a. Like a cheesier vibe. It wasn't, like, necessarily bad. It just wasn't, like, super cool. Because now, again, and guys don't hate us, but we are coming off of what's out there right now with zombies and Descendants and go back to Teen Beach.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Even Teen beach, which is kind of around this time, had.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

The great choreography.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This was. So the first one wasn't bad. Now, this movie or this. This particular one was like, oh, woof.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah, I noticed it. I never noticed.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And you wonder, could it have been. I know who I was watching the whole time to see? Because that's what you gotta do.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Allison.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You can watch the best dancer out there and they don't look like they like it. Then you really know. Okay. No.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

And it was Allison. Right?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Allison.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Could it be. Here's the thing. Could it be that because Demi wanted the days so shortened so she could record her music, that they had to, like, cut down the dance scenes and throw something together? Like, everybody do this. Because it's. I mean, I don't know. But again, I know nothing of dancing. Nothing. You've forgotten more about dancing than I will ever, ever know. And I watch this movie and I'm like, is this dancing bad? Like, this looks bad?

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, this. And this was one, in my opinion, where it stuck out the most.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay, so I'm not.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Other ones you could kind of. But this one, you could really. Well, this one and the.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

What are you doing?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Well, yeah, we'll get there.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, there. There's this one stuck out a lot.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It was like, oof. Yes. And so Mitchie, Connect3, and other campers step up to become counselors. And as a result, Brown has the confidence to keep Camp Rock afloat. Kevin Jonas, I mean, Jason, is put in charge of the junior rockers who begin to eat him alive. And led by our first glimpse of our bonus Jonas, our baby Jon, we get a montage, or a montage, depending on how you like to pronounce it, of all favorite campers turned counselors learning the ropes and thinking maybe they bit off more than they can chew. And it includes an homage to Bruce Springsteen that little to no kids caught. But at the end of the song, their counselors still they. Their counselor skills start to blossom, and things are coming together. Shane catches Nate with binoculars spying on the camp star girl. Dana playing the piano across the lake on some sort of weird floating lake.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Platform next to the water. Didn't seem like a good Idea. I was like, are they filming? I thought, you know what I thought? I thought all of a sudden, like, a film crew was going to come around. They were, like, filming her video or something like that video or something.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Just weird. Hanging, floating piano.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This big old piano. It was a big one, too. Is on the end of a dock somewhere. Like, what?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah, that makes no sense. Playing the piano. Then all of her attempts to finally have a date with Mitchie are there. But her new responsibilities at camp are so overwhelming, it's difficult to get any time off, especially with a lot of issues in the kitchen where Mitchie's mom and Brown's girlfriend works. But Nate isn't letting work stop him from his extracurricular activities. He takes a canoe out to watch Dana on the platform again, only to be drenched by a wakeboarder. Dana finds him soaked, and they flirt a little, eventually exposing that she wrote his name on her wrist in permanent ink, which teeters between cute and psychopathic. I was waiting for her to be like, ha. I cut it into my arm and I want to drink your blood. But just before it can get any hotter, we hear her dad. Nate hides under the canoe and avoids a confrontation with Axel. Back at Camp Rock, Mitchie and Shane finally get some quality time together. But there's a bonfire meeting, so she's got to run, and Shane's starting to get pretty frustrated. At the bonfire that night, the junior rockers are still having their way with Jason. They glued his butt to a log and then called him very cleverly, log butt. But while the kids chase fireflies, Axel, Luke Williams, and Tess spy on Camp Rock. Tess. Oh. Tess appears to miss what she sees, while Axel is sure they won't make it through the summer. Meanwhile, the camp rockers turned counselors are relaxing after a hard day's work, happy with how things have turned out. But they still feel cheated. From the opening bonfire talent show, Camp Star really showed them up. They want a fair shot against them at the final jam and seem to focus on making that happen. Happen. The next day at Camp Star, Camp rockers come marching down a hill, dancing in sync, chanting Camp Rock. It might be one of the campiest, cheesiest things we've ever seen in a decom. How is this not a meme? It's like it is. Is it? Okay, this is.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We talked about this in the first one. This is the one that the football players, NFL football players were doing that.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Like the Vikings, I think, did this.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, like they did the whole thing.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

What is this?

[Sabrina Bryan]

It is the strangest So I hadn't seen it. Right. I've just seen the meme. I've just seen the mem. All of a sudden they do it. And I saw the meme and went, that's so funny. I would be. It would be so hard to not break. I would be so embarrassed doing the whole thing.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

They could do it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. I mean, it's like. Because it's like it looks like they're trying to be like on Stop the Yard called a step crew. Yeah.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

And Stop the Yard.

[Sabrina Bryan]

They were doing this fraternities do and stuff like that. This is not anything pulling from the first movie of any sort. They never did anything like that. It's just so random. And I. So I saw. Even after watching the first one, I'm like, now I'm even more confused of like what this meme is. So as it's happening, I'm just going, it's mesmerizing.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

You can't take your eyes off it. You can't.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You can't even begin to take your eyes off of it going. But why?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah, you can't stop looking at it. It's really weird. So they strut all the way up to the amphitheater stage. With Connect3 holding up the back and Mitchie up in the front. They issue the final Jam challenge in the form of a back and forth number. It's on. Announcing the battle as official. Asking again, what do you think of this music and choreography?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay, I will say this one, this one didn't bother me. I actually liked this visuals of it the most. I loved them in the bleaching stands. Like all of that, like the movement of it was really cool. And I have to admit, you guys don't hate me, but I had a hard time not going. But the zombies way of having like the two teams look so different from each other.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And this was like you couldn't with within the transitions, like I kind of was like starting to get confused. Like, are those Camp Rockers or Camp Stars or like, what. Which ones are they from? Because they're kind, you know, they're just wearing like kid clothes. Right. They're not wearing anything different. So it was a little confusing in that sense. I don't think I would have mind at all before I'd see the Zombies thing. So that's a thing.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay, that's fair. No, that's fair.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I would not have minded that at all. I loved the visual, the in and out, the crossing over, the group work, all of that. I did like this one for Sure, I love a good kind of battle vibe. Those are always.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

You're a big fan of it. Which is why I love the Step up movies. When the song ends, Axel applauds the idea of a Final Jam and offers his amphitheater as the venue. And he ups the ante by offering TV coverage. Coverage. Though nervous, Mitchie accepts. Back at Camp Rock, Mitchie has an idea of what to perform at the Final Jam. She wrote it as a duet, but she's open to making it for everyone. Jason and Mitchie agree they have to include the Junior Rockers too. But Brown isn't happy about this Final Jam. He doesn't trust Axl and knows that this is a setup to destroy him forever. But it's too late to back out now. He feels like they're inferior to Camp Star. And when Mitchie overhears his feelings, she's visibly hurt but more focused than ever. She calls an all camp meeting, canceling non music related activities to focus on Final Jam. And sadly, this will leave even less time for her to connect with Shane, creating more of a strain on their relationship. He advises Nate to never get a girlfriend. But it's too late. That dude is still just straight up Peeping Tom and the piano player. And she's staring back with her own binoculars now, drinking his blood out of little vitals.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's getting weird. It's getting weird. And she looks so much older than the most of the cast. Right? Am I wrong?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

No. I mean I thought it was age appropriate. It was.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Again, she felt more mature.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Did she?

[Sabrina Bryan]

For me, I don't know if it was like her just gorgeous like luscious lips or what was it like? Very like Jessica Rabbit. Yeah, maybe that's what she felt very like. Mature, gorgeous girl. Gorgeous. But just she seems so much more mature than the rest of the cast.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Well, yeah, there it was. The whole just the relationship with the two, two of them was a little weird. Later that day, Mitchie doesn't get why anyone at Camp Rock is taking a break from practicing for Final Jam. Their performance needs work and she's becoming quite an annoying leader, even ignoring what the Junior Rockers can contribute. All work and no play makes this place a dull camp. But it appears Brown and Shane have a plan. Led by the Junior Rockers, they race to the rehearsal and ambush the campers with water balloons and hoses. It is a full on water fight and Brown loves what he sees. The song playing during the melee is Rock Hard or Go Home. Which is a title that could have used a rewrite Everyone appears to have had a lot of fun, except Mitchie is nowhere to be found. She even missed dinner. Shane finds her working on the Final Jam song and invites her to a night picnic. But she's not having it. She has work to do and is not happy about the water fight. I love how she's even trying to do the music on her wet sheets. She feels neglected and makes sure she know he feels neglected and makes sure she knows it before he storms out. And it's a nice kind of story point that she ends up being too busy for him, not the rock star, too busy for her. It was a good counterpoint to what they normally do. And when Shane returns to his cabin, he picks up an acoustic guitar and instantly taps into his sorrows with our next song, a duet with Mitchie called Wouldn't Change a Thing. It's about their differences and conflicts, but how they both seem to believe they're meant to be anyway. This is basically a new generation's version of Paula Abdul's Opposites Attract. And I know it's not that at all. Isn't that the best? It's actually. It's my favorite song that they do. It's one of the only songs that I. That I wasn't like. This was very good. It's a good song. The two of them together. It's a good.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I am such a fan of her music and I mean this is what she does. Like she can just pull an audience in once she gets a valid moment.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Other than this, I've never heard a Demi Lovato song in my life.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh you. I mean if you liked this song. This doesn't even hit like. Like a tiny bit of the music. She does not.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

My.

[Sabrina Bryan]

She is like one of the along the royalty of the big queens that do ballads.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Like okay. Oh man, she's.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Her voice is ridiculous.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah. I've never heard it. The next morning, Mitchie wakes up to an empty cabin. She has no idea where everyone went and eventually stumbles on a massive camp wide practice run by her bunk mates. They admit they weren't taking it seriously and it shouldn't just rest on Mitchie's shoulders. So Shane got everyone up before dawn to get to work. It's time for Camp Rock to step it up and Connect3 is ready to teach them how to do this. Starting with our next song, Heart and Soul, an instructional rock anthem about how to be a rock star performed from the humble Camp rock stage. What do we think about the slightly self referential track referencing Elvis, Mick Jagger, Axl Rose, David Lee Roth.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, it was. Again, I just kind of got lost. Austin. It not being movie.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I'm sorry.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, I didn't. It was. It was. I got it. I got it. Right. Like, I. I understood where it was, but it was definitely. This was one of the songs I could have done without. I mean, but again, it makes sense. They have these kids that are learning, like in. You know, to do a montage of them working hard. This. To me, I'm kind of like, this is just needed in the storyline. Right?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We're at this point where we just need a storyline of them.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It was a weird song.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I liked the. The one that was like Great Balls of Fire. I loved that one. I loved that. That actual song. That song was, like, really cute and different and like. Like you said, kids watching it probably had zero idea of the reference, but for me, I was. I love a Great Balls of Fire. Oh, so good.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

When the song ends, Nate stumbles onto Dana, who's crossed the lake in a canoe to see him. But their interaction turns awkwardly. She admits she likes seeing him creepily watching her play the piano, but now he's acting shy, and she doesn't know anything about him. She's not into that and leaves in a huff. Is this an actual argument? I don't get what happened here. She's mad that she doesn't really know him, but how could she? He's just a peeping Tom. And she liked that, so how could she not know? It's like they've had a total of four conversations.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

That always turn weird. How much is she supposed to know about this guy at this point?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Exactly. And I get it. He's. He's having a hard time communicating with her, as all guys that age do. Girlfriend, back down. Give him a minute. And she gets so irritated so quickly.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Because she's basically like, so, tell me what you're thinking.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah. Tell me everything about yourself, because I don't know anything about you. It's like, what?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm really feeling awkward right now. Can I tell you that?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It's very strange.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm thinking this is one of the most awkward conversations I've ever had. Does that make you feel good? Thank you. I don't really want to tell you.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I don't want to tell you, but it's true. But now we have sad Nate and sad Shane moping around Camp Rock, love struck, eating mashed potatoes. But just when things look saddest for Shane, he finally goes on a date with Mitchie walking in the sand barefoot. They're picnicking. But on the other side of the spectrum, Nate is still bumming. He doesn't know what to do because Dana wants to know things about him. What a novel idea. What do you think? Those. Middle name, favorite type of socks. The last time he saw Avatar. Like, what does she need to know?

[Sabrina Bryan]

So strange.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah. His brother suggests if he can't say it, he should sing it. So he sneaks onto Camp Star and surprises her with a list of things nobody knows about him. Then he starts playing his guitar, and we're into our next song, Introducing Me. It's a tune about things that he likes, such as cheese, but only on pizza, but also sometimes on a homemade quesadilla. He also likes when the moon looks like a toenail, but he's not into cars. The song goes faster and faster because she's got to get back to practice. She loves the twee cuteness of it all. But before she can say anything. Ooh. Her father appears and tells Nate he's got to leave the theatrics for the final jam. But as Dana leaves, she obviously liked it a lot and takes the list of things about him. Funny, cute, quirky song. That night, while telling scary stories to the junior rockers, Jason, who has no romantic storyline whatsoever, assures the kids they're going to win the Final Jam. And this seems like a terrible, terrible promise to make. So he wakes them up for a mission. They creep up to Camp Star and spy on their opponent's rehearsal, which is run by Axel's iron fist and focuses only on Tess. Oh, Tess and Luke. The next day, the junior Rockers report back with what they saw, and it's seen as good news because everyone agrees Mitchie and Shane are far superior compared to Tess and Luke. Are they? But the plan was never to focus on the couple. It was to incorporate everyone. But Caitlin reminds her the song was originally written as a duet and now everyone wants them to do it alone. And even though it appears to be the plan moving forward, it's not sitting great with Mitchie, especially because the Junior Rockers wanted to show off their skills. But she has an idea. And just in time for the Final Jam, which is starting right now. Hitstv, spelled with a Z, of course, is covering the event, because, you know, cable TV loves camp talent shows. Also, Axl appears to have a real intimate relationship with the TV host, played by big brother Canada's Arisa Cox. Backstage, Axel even taunts Brown, saying next year he might just hire him to run Camp Star. And at the point Brown at one point is like, so I guess we're never going to be friends again. He's like, no. Off. All this while Tess and Luke are bickering right up until they take the stage.

[Sabrina Bryan]

What great messaging for kids, right?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Isn't it great?

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's the grudge. Never worth it. Never.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Grudges work. Hate should last forever.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Forever.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

And even during introductions that hits TV host is biased towards Camp Star. Tess and Luke do get their together and perform a song called Tear it Down. Arguably my favorite song of the entire thing. And they should have won with Dana on keys in the camp dancing around. So I mean, other than the temporary Jamaican accent from Luke, which was weird, what did you think about this performance?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Well, my main question was when we spied on them. This is one of my spring of seas. But we'll just do it it. When we spied on them, they were all wearing like blonde wigs. Where did they go?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

That's a great question.

[Sabrina Bryan]

What were they rehearsing?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I don't. Yeah, it was a fake rehearsal to throw off.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I went back and I. I went back and. And they do kind of say like tear it down. Let's start from the beginning. So I don't know if that's like a we're gonna not do this like the whole thing at all. But I kept going. When are those blonde wigs coming out?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Never came into play. Never came into play. Nope.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So yeah, I mean, I thought this one was okay. This is another time when the choreography struck me as like not the greatest choreography we've seen.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

But the song wasn't bad.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But the song wasn't bad and it was a big time production song. So that's one of the things that I noticed that we have. We are not usually always seen on the Camp Rock side. So then I kind of went, oh, they're not going to win this thing.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

No, of course they're not. Nor should they have. And I would judge them right from my air conditioned cabin. And now as Camp Rock awaits their turn, they congratulate Tess and Luke on a great performance. And Luke says it would have been better if he did it solo. What a dick.

[Sabrina Bryan]

He was kind of right that he didn't really need her.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Honestly, he didn't.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Luke, that was good. Honestly, his very first performance was the.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Best thing of the entire. Yeah, exactly how this guy's still there.

[Sabrina Bryan]

He was good on his own. He was actually right. And I. Sometimes you just know I'm better on my own.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I'm better by Myself.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Tess obviously misses the camaraderie of Camp Rock and wishes them luck. But it might be for nothing because the hits pronouncing that Z TV host admits to Brown that Axel spent millions of dollars in marketing to get votes for his camp. Why they might be cooked before they even take the stage. But Nate doesn't let that get him down. He gives a rose to Dana and their relationship seems to be progressing despite her dad seeing him as the enemy and Sabrina seeing her as too old for him. And now it's time for Camp Rock to perform their big number. What We Came Here For. Shane and Mitchie lead the way with camp footage shot by the Junior Rockers playing on the screen. Also there's a bunch of beach balls which makes any performance better. The song concludes to a thunderous response and voting has begun. Soon after we're told the results are in. So that was a three minute voting window. And just as the winner's name is announced, we go completely silent, only seeing the different camps reaction to whatever was said. And we can tell the winning team was Camp Star. Womp Womp. Camp Rock is obviously disappointed and Mitchie begins to cry. Tess swats over crossing lines to console her. By the way, Camp Star was better. Later that night at a goodbye Camp Rock bonfire, Shane can't believe they lost. But Mitchie explains that every song can't be a hit and it could never stop them from singing. Mitchie apologizes that they didn't spend more time together this summer. And finally we see them kiss. It's a good smooch. And at the big final moment of acceptance, the Camp Rockers sing this Is Our Song around the fire, reclaiming their summer no matter who won the final jam. Camp Star one. Camp Star one. And then they spot a group of kayaks heading towards them. All of the people in the kayak holding weapons. No, I'm kidding. I was seeing if you're still with me. It's everyone from Camp Star hoping to join the party. Tess and a few other campers even plan on attending Camp Rock next year because everyone goes to camp up through their twenties apparently in this world. So they're just gonna keep coming back because it seems like more fun. And the camp's phones have been ringing off the hook. So maybe, maybe they didn't lose after all. They close out this is our song with some big demi vocals and a few bloopers over the credits. And that is your movie. When your daughter's learning how to drive and says Ba can I drive? You say Equally, Here we go. But what you do, should, should say is something that helps protect your ride.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

And that's where State Farm comes in to help you choose the coverage you need so you can relax until you hear.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Can we pick up my boyfriend?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Wait, what? Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. State Farm, Bloomington, Illinois. Hey, it's Ramos from the Life Is a Gringo podcast. And on this special episode, I'm getting real about sex, especially how growing up in a Latino household impacts the conversations we have about it. I think it's safe to say that most people's parents probably weren't too comfortable with the topic of sex and speaking about sex with their kid. You know, there are obviously a lot of stigmas around the topic of sex when it comes to our parents. And I think back to my own personal experiences. You know, we never really had the birds and the bees talk about, you know, it was more of like, you know, sex is something you save for someone you really care about. And that was sort of the extent of it. Right? You can listen to this special episode of Life as a Gringo, brought to you by Healthy Sexual from Gilead sciences on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Chiquis Rivera]

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[Wilmer Valderrama]

How do you get into comerte el mundo mode? You know, the one that mindset that says lo puedo todo game on no importa Lo que venga ya se on work email New drama brewing o el grupo chat que tansendiyo no importa. You're ready Some People Need a Hype Squad Yo I just need u momentico in front of the bathroom mirror fresh out of the shower with Method Body Wash. It's an instant reset. I feel energized and confident. Lito paratodo atal trafico Method brings the espumita that leaves your skin hydrated and smelling great. Congestos sense ricos so you can set the tone. Con confianza alc Think of Method like a hype squad in a bottle. Pero mucho mejor Method transforms you turn your everyday shower into a moment to remember and try Method Body Wash. Now let's do some real reviews. Sabrina, I think you have the one star this week. What do you got?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I do and it is a lot to say.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It's a doozy.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's a lot. All right.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

We both have long ones this week.

[Sabrina Bryan]

One star. Review from White Shadow 1606 okay, I'm completely disappointed. First of all, I like the first Camp Rock way better. Most of the parts are just lame, especially the songs. Hate all the songs. Maybe I like one, but that doesn't change the fact that this movie is suck. Let me be clear. I don't like Demi Lovato. She really should be focusing only on her singing career. She is suck at acting. I bet many will agree with me on this. Wow.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

One star and I would hate to.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Is suck at anything.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I would hate to is suck at anything too. My God. Nobody likes to is suck. I've got the five star from somebody named Ellen Holmes and I'm gonna read this exactly as it's written. As soon as I came home, I ran straight to the teapot to make the hibiscus lemon balm tea Tea. The moment I tasted it, my rabies completely vaporized. The herbalists at Camp Rock 2 the Final Jam 2010 are extremely sapient and healing. I even brought rose quartz and my ex husband finally came back to me. Their rock and fossil collection lives up to the shop's name. The location is perfect for bird watching. I go bird watching here every day after work as a tour guide at my local jam factory. I totally recommend this job by the way. If you see Me there. Say, I love your purple hair and I'll know you read this review. You toodles.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This lady.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Five stars.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Smelling all the vapors and smoking all the herbs of this Camp Rock. 2 5.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Don't know what's up with that. If she confused it with something, if it was a joke. But yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

We are now coming to Sabrina's favorite part of our program, our weekly feature. You do you look forward to it all week? Like I look forward to a good Camp Rock sequel. This. This game this week is called the Definition of Camp. To celebrate the survival of Camp Rock and the slow death of Camp Star, we are diving into the world of famous camps. We'll be given a description of something, including the word camp, and we must decide what is being described. 3 out of 5 wins. Camp Director Jensen, are you with us this week? Yes. We have breakfast in the main cabin in about 20 minutes, so let's get through it fast. Ah, we'll have to get through it because I want some bug juice. So here we go. Number one. The US Marine Corps base in Southern California. California. That serves as a key training facility for the marine and navy operations.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Wait, we had to name. We have to guess the. The name of it.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah, it's got camp in the title.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Pendleton.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

There you go. Camp Pendleton is correct, I think, right? Yep.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Camp Pendleton. Number one.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

All right. Number two. A group of kids trick their parents into funding a fake summer camp so they can spend the summer unsupervised and free from adult rules in this 1994 movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, now I remember it because we.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Did this on Pop meets World. Thank God.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Thank God. Oh, man. I don't know, but I know the movie. I could see it. Oh, what is it, Will?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Isn't it Camp Nowhere? It is.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Camp Nowhere.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Nowhere. Camp Nowhere.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That's a good one.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Number three. This is the name of the University of Wisconsin's football field.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Jensen, these are so good. I. I don't know it, but they are so good. Because I do know it, but I don't know it's it.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay, wait. Okay. Wisconsin. Are they the Badgers? So would it be Camp Badger? No, it's Camp Randall Stadium. Never get that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, I feel like. Isn't that a famous one, though? The.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I mean, it's not. Not famous. Double negative. Tricky.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay. All right. Any moving on?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Number four. It's a 1963 novelty song by Alan Sherman humorously depicting a boy's miserable experiences at summer camp through a letter to his. His parents. Do you know this? No. Isn't this hello, mother. Hello, father. Isn't it Camp Hiawatha? Wow. To blow it so close to it. Oh, no.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Is that right?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

The part that bothers me the most is how close you got it. Is Camp Granada. Oh, damn it. I thought it was Camp Hiawatha. Camp Granada by Sherman's dad, by the way. Was it? No, that's Sherman's grandfather. Oh, Grandfather. Alan Sherman. I think his. His grandfather. I think he. Because it was. It's Bob and Bob Sherman. Robert Sherman. And I can't forget his other. But Alan, I think was their dad. Glebe. I think so.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Gleb.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay, so I was so close reading from Camp granada. Okay, number five. It's the fictional summer camp in the Friday the 13th franchise, infamous for being the haunted grounds of mass killer Jason Voorhees.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh. Oh, this is a good one.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This is a great one.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I think I have it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This is a great one. I have no idea.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Isn't it like Camp Summer Lake? Oh, wait, this guy. So.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, it's Silver Lake. Oh, it's. It's close. Is it Summerlin?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

No, Summerlin in Nevada. What is it?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Camp? I can't think of anything about camp.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

So close. I don't want to even cut it off.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Off.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It is Summer Lake or Silver Lake or camp. I mean, can we put a little buzzer of badness in here during the edit? It's Camp Crystal Lake. Crystal Lake. Damn it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's Crystal Lake.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Damn it. So close.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, close.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh, my.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Those are good. That was a good one.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

We lost.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I liked that one.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Thank you, producer Jensen.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Making us feel that's normal. For me, the sting gets less and less. Less.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It does. It. It's just because we've stopped feeling. That's all it is.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm just numbed.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Exactly. We have any Sabrina C's left?

[Sabrina Bryan]

We do. One of the things that hit me so hard, this movie versus. I don't remember. I don't even remember the name. Caring about it at all. Was this Connect three for the man?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yeah, I didn't remember that either.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I did. I don't know if it was like, more in our face or what, but it. It's such a funny name. Instead of Connect four, it's Connect three.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Didn't remember that at all. Yeah. Funny, though.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I kept. I just kept. It's in so many of it. Like, I literally. Connect three again. Connect three. Like, it just is really funny. I already talked about my. My worrisome about the bodyguard dying and then Baby Jonas being that videographer. I wrote it down because I saw him in the audience thinking this was like a quick cameo. But then it became a big thing. The bracelet thing really irritated me. One of the things that also irritated me was the beach balls being just thrown. Because I know we always wanted to be able to put like throw beach balls. But it's like a big fine. So I always wonder what. How they get thrown. It must be someone bringing them.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It's a fine at a concert to throw a beach ball.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So we had a thing called. On our Christmas tour, we had a song called Christmas Time in California and we wanted. It was like a surf vibe and we wanted to throw beach balls. And it's like a giant fine like that. We would never. Our production company never let us do that. But then like some people, I guess big rockers that have no money like that have money they don't care about. So they just do it. Anyway. Anyway. And then the last one was. Okay, I have to scroll up because I had a conversation to distinguish this because we did not talk about it. And it is. The song that we went over was. It's the funny little quirky song that we see Nick Jonas do with his older girlfriend.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Introducing me.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's Introducing Me now. Did that. Well, I know this is totally out of your genre probably, but I'm listening to it and I went, oh my gosh. And I started going, Jason Mraz, like has.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It's such a Jason Mraz song. I thought the same thing. It is a full on Jason Mraz song.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm like, I can't believe. And I'm thinking. So I looked into it. I thought this movie came out before because there was in my head, no way Disney would ever do a song that sounds so much like it.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

No, it's I'm yours, right?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Is that the song you're in, I'm Yours? Yes. And that came out in 2008. And this movie came out in 2008 and 10. Oh, this song. You have to. And the.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It's the same.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It is the almost exact same song.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I thought the same thing.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I could not believe that Disney, now that I know that, at first I was thinking Jason totally.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

He was obviously a Camp Rock too fan.

[Sabrina Bryan]

He was a Camp Rocker. What the hell? No, this song, guys, you gotta just take your phones out, look it up right now. Because it is. Is such a thing. And then I found an article about him being upset about it.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh, he was really. He was pissed.

[Sabrina Bryan]

There was a, you know, I wouldn't want to say go like, oh, he was pissed. But like he's in there going like, yeah, that's like. I mean that's a very close thing. And it's the. It's the Jonas Brothers doing it too. So it's obviously going to be big and known and now like, you know, if you put them back to back.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh, he was mad that. I love that Jason Ross was mad about it. Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I get. I don't think he was mad but it just says like, yeah, he's like, that's like that's my song.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

That's my song.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And there was another girl. There's another song. I guess that's very close to it from. I don't recognize this artist. Sorry. But, but Lenka and it's called the show.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I think it's the same. Yeah. It's the. She sings it to Brad Pitt. His daughter sings it to Brad Pitt in Moneyball. Oh, yeah. And it sounds exactly the same.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm telling you guys, these songs are like just different for it's like part one, part two, part three. Honestly, it's the same. It's the same melod or it sounds very, very similar. So that was the thing that just blew me off, off my feet. I was just like, I went back and listened to it because it's cute. It was a cute little song and I'm like, wait a minute.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

That's a great Jason Morales song.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's a great chase.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It is. It is.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Which shocks me. Doesn't that shock you on the channel would even take the chance to do something like that?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Maybe they were just like, ah, it's Nick Jones. The Jonas's are writing it so it'll be fine.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But it's like nobody will care. Nobody will care.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yikes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I care.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I care. Thank you, Sabrina for Sabrina sees this week. And now we have to rate our film on our options this week. Let's do one. I say we do one out of 70. O 70 being the lowest. I'm kidding. Let's do one out of 10. One out of 10. We'll do one. But we'll make 10 the highest this time. That's how we'll switch it up. Our options this week are 1 out of 10 iron weasels 1 out of 10 dead bodies on the side of the road. Road Rolling buses. Bonus Jonases 1 out of 10 peeping toms 1 out of 10 sad mashed potatoes. 1 out of 10 log butts 1 out of 103 minute voting windows. Or I'm going to add 1 out of 10 stolen Jason Mraz songs.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Which one would you like to go with stolen?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Stolen. All right. I think, I think you rated first last time, so. I did.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's your turn. We're back on track now.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay. Okay. I'm starting to realize that one of the ways that I sh. I can see how much I like a movie or dislike a movie is if I have to watch it in chunks. And I had to watch this movie in chunks. This was not one of my favorite movies. Camp Rock 1 was way better than this movie. Again, I noticed the choreography. I should never notice the choreography. I should sit here and go, Sabrina, are they dancing good? And you go, yeah, they're dancing good. And I go, great. That's how it should be. Be. So when I'm sitting there watching going, this doesn't look good.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

I mean, again, this, doing this with the hands all the time. And this is never a move.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's this one that, this is never.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

A move that should be in a dance thing. That's, that's. I do that and it's cuz I can't dance. So. Yeah, it's. This was not my favorite movie. That being said, the amount of talent in this movie is, is ridiculous. When you've got Demi Lovato, you've got the Jonas Brothers, you've got Alison Stoner, you've got even the, the, the, the M Dot and all the. I mean, there was a lot of talent in this movie. I did not like the way the talent was directed. Meaning not Paul Hoen directed. I mean, like it, it was put into, I thought not great dancing and not great songs, frankly, I thought is where this talent went. So because it's Daddy Hoen and because of the cast that it is, I'll bump it up a bit. But this is not, this is another 5.5, maybe soft 6 to me at best. This was just not a great movie for me. I'm sorry, it just, it wasn't. So I'm. You know what? I'm gonna stick with my guns. I'm gonna say five. Five. This was. I thought some of the acting choices were strange. I did not like the music. I did not like the music. I didn't. That is, it is what it is. I gotta, I gotta stick with what I know. Again, had this been a standalone, that might be different, but we saw Camp Rock 1, which was a better version of this already.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

So, yeah, this is a 5.5 stolen Jason Mraz songs for me.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. I mean, I expected that. I really did. I really did. I don't ever really like to hit on choreography and be too harsh on it, but this was just not it. And I'm sorry. Mainly, though, I'm. What part? Like I said, the talent he has. I mean, not just Allison. There's just so much of the cast that has really just Ubers and Ubers amount of talent. They pulled it off in a sense because they're just great performers. So, you know, you're just hoping they're watching their faces versus what they're doing down below. It started off okay for me, and then it kind of went down. And then the hard part for me was that what was given to Camp Star was just so much better.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

It was. They were better.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And the poor kids at Camp Rock just looked so mediocre. And that's what I just really didn't understand. And I mean, I guess it made sense because at the end they didn't win. But then again, I don't like storylines that end up like that. I like to feel soft and cushy inside. Been happy and proud that they won.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So that. That threw me.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

They also set it up to where if they didn't win, it wasn't because they weren't better. They didn't win because that guy bought all the votes. They made sure you had to say.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But at the end of the day, if I were judging the Camp Star was better. They did. And it's terrible to say, but it's true.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Yep.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I agree. The first one was so much better, but the star power in this bumped it up a little bit. And then of course, course, my guy, Paul Holman. So, yeah, I'm never gonna give Paul Hole, I don't think less than a 6.5. So I'm going with a 6.5. I'm. What are we doing?

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Thank you, Jason. Stolen Jason Mraz songs.

[Sabrina Bryan]

6.5 stolen Jason Mraz songs. I love you, Paul. I will always be here being your old dog. Shout out so. Because I just can't give him less than that. Unless I might have done that with Luck of the Irish. I don't know. I can't remember. Anyway, we're going to. We're going to move on and it's just going to stay at 6.5 for me.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Okay, well, fair enough. Well, thank you everybody so much for joining us, you know, for our next movie. We sometimes find ourselves reviewing silly movies with, like, ridiculous titles, but we found one that exudes the subtle, less over the top class of dcom deserves. It's time to analyze the 2000s science fiction writer prompt stepsister from Planet Weird. Yeah, get ready for some Oscar worthy class. I can't wait. I did. But again, I love a movie that doesn't apologize from itself. Mom and dad, save the universe, things like that. It's like, okay, this is Stepsister from Planet Weird. I can't wait. This could be a 10. And I would have no idea. So I'm so excited. But first, speaking of excited, we are unbelievably excited because this week's Park Hopper episode, we are talking to the one and only Alison Stoner. Yes. AKA Caitlin from Camp Rock 1 and 2 and so many other great nostalgic projects. They're an icon on the channel, on the dance floor, in voiceovers. And now they joined us for a magical rewind look back. Let's get a little preview of what you can expect.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Ironically, where we filmed Camp Rock, we filmed Cheever. By the time doesn't.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh, really?

[Sabrina Bryan]

That would make so much sense. Yeah. So I was.

[Chiquis Rivera]

I would have flashbacks where I would.

[Sabrina Bryan]

See like the camp supposed to be like the mess hall. And then I would look to the right and see the water. And I would picture Steve Martin and all of us like rowing across the water trying to get my older sister Piper Paribo to the hospital to give birth in that scene.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Obviously this is one you don't want to miss. They have such cool stories and talk about a career. Amazing.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So make sure that book.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Oh yeah. They talk about their new book and it sounds like it's pretty extraordinary. So you gotta get it. So anyway, make sure you're subscribed to our Magical Rewind feed wherever you get your podcast, since our interview episodes are exclusively released there. And for more information, follow us at Magical Rewind Pod on the Instagram machine that's on your phone device. Thank you everybody and bye bye.

[Sabrina Bryan]

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[Sabrina Bryan]

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[Sabrina Bryan]

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[Chiquis Rivera]

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[Sabrina Bryan]

Sometimes two hours and a cold theater with my people, my favorite actors, and a cold Coca Cola in hand.

[Chiquis Rivera]

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[Sabrina Bryan]

And sometimes the best way to reset.

[Chiquis Rivera]

Is to check out, out, laugh, cry.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Scream at the screen and just be popcorn, good company and a cold Coke.

[Chiquis Rivera]

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[Sabrina Bryan]

This is an I Heart podcast.