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Will Friedle
Hi, Sabrina.
Sabrina Bryan
Hi.
Will Friedle
How are you doing?
Sabrina Bryan
Okay over there?
Will Friedle
How are you doing? You had quite the morning. You were tripping and falling and lip lining it up. You came in the first thing I heard that our. Our zoom hadn't even started. I just hear, ah. Oh, yeah, I'm doing great. How are you?
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, I'm doing okay. I'm glad I'm sitting down. I feel like I might need some bubble wrap for the rest of the day.
Will Friedle
That's good.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, boy.
Will Friedle
Well, maybe it'll get better. We'll talk about an awesome movie. Yeah, well, all right. Or. Or we'll talk about this one. Let's do that. Yeah. So we'll. Well, we'll get into it. Welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses are smart. The wave, tsunamis, and Sabrina remembered how to walk. I'm Will Friedle.
Sabrina Bryan
And I'm Sabrina Bryan.
Will Friedle
So this week on Magical Rewind, we tackle two subjects as intrinsically connected as peanut butter and jelly, thunder and lightning, or decoms and Stu Krieger. That's right, it's hockey and Girl Scouts. The classic combo leads us straight to 2010's Den Brother, originally released on August 13, 2010 as a Disney Channel original movie, also called the DCOM. Folks, I don't know if you're new to the show, but that's what it's called. Den Brother finally got us out of Canada after a long streak filming there. It was shot in Salt Lake City, Utah, sending us back to this country's DCOM capital. This movie may not be well remembered or highly regarded or good in any way, shape or form, but it generated 3.7 million viewers on premiere night, even peaking around 4.3 million near the end of the broadcast. That's a big success for Disney. And yet this one has been largely written out of the history books. And again, remember, what did we just talk about? Where it came out and people really liked it. But it got 400,000.
Sabrina Bryan
We were just talking about under wraps.
Will Friedle
Yeah, right. The new under wraps movie. 400,000. And this. Which this. God, that movie was so much better. Than this movie. I'm sorry if I'm spoiling it right away. I'm also in a mood, people. I'm in a bit of a mood. So it's gonna come out on this movie. And anybody unfortunate enough to walk in front of me today, sorry, but I'm in a bit of a mood. Anyway, I'll try to lighten it up. I can. Well, we'll see.
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Will Friedle
Now, we have to acknowledge that Disney loves sports movies, but they sure do have a direct crush on hockey or just ice sports in general. From Mighty Ducks to H e Double Hockey sticks to Taj playing hockey in Poof Point to Go figure. It is quite the trope. And now we can add this movie to the lexicon. And like every good hockey movie, the one question you have to ask is, Sabrina, were you a Girl Scout?
Sabrina Bryan
Right. Yes. For one year I was a Brownie. And I think we talked about that a little bit before. I loved my uniform. Very proud of it. I loved all the patches. I don't remember one patch I actually got, but I do remember being very, very, very proud of them. Loved my little costume, which was like a brown and orange ugly uniform. But for whatever reason, it was mine and it was my time to shine in it. I loved it.
Will Friedle
That's awesome, Will. Yes.
Sabrina Bryan
You were a Girl.
Will Friedle
Scout? I was a Girl Scout. You were Scout. I was. I started as a weebalo and then I got the. And then I was a Cub Scout. I was actually in the local paper as a Cub Scout, which was awesome. My father was in the navy and they were opening a new, like, naval center, Marine Corps and naval center near our house. And so I went in full Cub Scout gear. And as all the soldiers stood up and saluted the flag, I did my Cub Scout salute and a guy took a picture. And I think I was seven years. Seven years old or so. Eight years old. And it's still framed in my house at home.
Sabrina Bryan
That is so cute. Oh, my gosh. That is adorable.
Will Friedle
I loved it. And then I was only a scout for like a year. My dad was an Eagle Scout and then went into the military. So, yeah, I mean, it was. It was of bigger in, in our family.
Sabrina Bryan
But I. I've always wondered, and maybe you can answer this question then. So the girl Scouts have been selling cookies for years, like decades on decades. Were you guys selling popcorn back then?
Will Friedle
No.
Sabrina Bryan
Do you remember?
Will Friedle
No. Popcorn is like a brand new thing. I think when it saw it, we. I think the Boy Scouts looked over at the girl Scouts and they're like, damn. They're basically drug dealers. So.
Sabrina Bryan
Banking.
Will Friedle
Yeah. What's our drug? Because it's like, you know, they've got. And then somebody went, popcorn.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
And what we'll do is we'll give you a thing of popcorn and we'll charge a ridiculous amount of money for it. We'll guilt you into paying 6250 for a thing of.
Sabrina Bryan
It's crazy. But I think it is actually a really fun thing to sell too, though, like popcorn, because it's not your normal. You can't get, like, salted and butter popcorn from them. It's like. I feel like the one I got was, like, snickered. Like Snickers flavored. There was like. They were like kind of candy. One was like a. Like a Fruit Loop type one, too. And I'll tell you that I tasted all of them. All approved. Very good. Great, great gifts. Great gifts for. For people like my dad from.
Will Friedle
I was going to say you are from a popcorn addict family. So that's just what it is. But, yes, I loved. I loved being a Boy Scout, especially. I went to a Boy Scout camp. I just didn't finish it out. Yeah. So. Well, again, I just wish I knew how much it had to do with hockey. As is commonly the case, Den Brother is available now to watch on Disney, the official streaming service of Walt Disney. Well, not the actual guy. Walt Disney. He's been dead for a long time. Well, I mean, before streaming services, at least. I wonder what he'd even think about streaming services. I mean, I didn't know the man, so it'll stay a mystery. But watch now, watch later. Either way, rest in peace, Walt. With that in mind, Sabrina, I ask you, did you know Den Brother existed before it became fodder for you?
Sabrina Bryan
No. And honestly, we talked about it within the last recording that that was going to be the next movie. It had mentioned that it had Girl Scouts. I honestly thought we were going for another spooky movie. And the Den Brother was going to be like a long lost brother found in a den. So this was a big shock for me.
Will Friedle
I thought it was gonna have something to do with bears. I did. I did.
Sabrina Bryan
I'm telling you, the title, it makes sense as soon as you get into the movie really quickly. But if you're just looking at it, you have no idea what to expect.
Will Friedle
No. Nothing whatsoever. Even after I watched it, I still didn't know what to expect, if that makes sense. This film was directed by Mark L. Taylor, an actor turned director best known to our listeners as Mr. Fulton in a high school musical. 2. Or Hank Ogden. Eddie's really? Aw. In Eddie's Million Dollar Cook off, he has an uncountable amount of acting credits from MASH to Inner Space to Honey I Shrunk the Kids. But on the director's side, he's only done a handful of experiences with this being his only full length movie. And it stars Hutch Dano, which might be one of the coolest 70s cop names ever. Which is. Yeah, it's just an incredible name. He plays Alex Pearson and is best known for his time as skateboarder Zeke on the Disney TV show Zeke and Luther. He also appeared on Suite Life on Deck and. Okay, wait, sweet. That's. They're on a boat, right? They're not waiting.
Sabrina Bryan
They're not waiting up to bat.
Will Friedle
Okay.
Sabrina Bryan
It's not a baseball thing. Not the reboot, but the spin off. Spin off. Thank you.
Will Friedle
Okay, gotcha. God. That's. Okay. Now it's on a boat. Shameless. And the genre movie Zombeavers. Wow.
Ryan Seacrest
Okay.
Will Friedle
I don't know what Zom Beavers is. A, I'll guarantee you we're watching it. And B, I'll guarantee it's better than this movie. Then you've got Genevieve Henelius, formerly known as G. Henelius plays Emily Pearson. You may know her from a bevy of Disney related shows like Sonny With a Chance, Good Luck Charlie, Hannah Montana, and most notably, she played Avery on Dog with a Blog. She recently appeared in the hilarious Netflix show American Vandal and as the voice of Rosebud in the Super Buddy Dog movies Rosebud. Do you get that? That reference? No. No, you don't get that. You don't get that reference. Whispering Rosebud. Really? Have you not seen Citizen Kane, what's arguably considered the greatest film of all time?
Sabrina Bryan
I think it's been 2,700 years since I've seen it.
Will Friedle
Okay, so no, that's what he. That's what he whispers on his deathbed. Rosebud. Okay. Anyway.
Sabrina Bryan
Okay, that's making a little bit more sense. Let's move on.
Will Friedle
Maurice Gauden is Professor Pearson. He is a veteran actor with credits on Seinfeld, House, Wizards of Waverly Place, and Modern Family in 2016, which is his last listed job. David Lambert is Goose Lambert played Talk to Me Goose. Lambert played Brendan Foster on the hit TV show the Fosters for over 100 episodes and was also recently seen on the show Good Trouble. Kelsey as Beal, I want to say, is how you say might be Asbele, but it's Kelsey as Beal, formerly known as Kelsey Chow is Matisse. She played Gigi on One Tree Hill, but she's probably best recognized by our listeners as Michaela on the kids show Pair of Kings. But you can now see her on a massive TV show. She plays Monica Dutton on Yellowstone and another vet, Deborah Mooney plays Mrs. Jacklets. Mooney's career really took off in 1982 when she appeared in the classic movie Tootsie, one of the greatest films of all time, and would later appear in Dead Poets Society, Seinfeld, er and she played Edna on Everwood. She's still working recently, appearing in three episodes of Inventing Anna. But beyond everything else, let's talk turkey, my friends. How long was this movie? Will the entire cast and crew need to sit in the penalty box or did we hit the target? Den brother runs 89 minutes, one off the bullseye, but on the right side of history. So close yet so far, but still very impressive. I will allow it. It was the only good thing about this movie and right this was not a good movie. Again, maybe I'm just in the mood and writing credits we have a story by credit, a tribute to Michael Horowitz. He was a writer producer on shows like Burn Notice, Prison Break and the Disney TV series reboot of Turner and Hooch. And the teleplay is accredited to James Krig, a writer has written the I've personally said in many animated projects. He's also worked on live action shows like Monk and Supernatural while writing on animated staples like Justice League Crisis, teen titans, go DC, Lego and Ben 10. And 1, 2, 3, 4. Yep, done them all. We've mentioned once before as he was a writer of Frenemies.
Sabrina Bryan
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Will Friedle
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Sabrina Bryan
Plus you'll have the chance to meet us while we're taping an episode of Magical Rewind inside Disneyland California adventure park.
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And so let's hit the ice and prep for Camporee. It's time for Den Brother. We jump right into it, diving into the Lemon Oaks Ice arena, announced as the home of the Ice Hounds. And it is packed. The announcer for the Ice Hounds Radio, whose name is our newest entry in the DCOM Name hall of Fame Hans McKenloper. It's no Jackal Johnson is calling play by play. And boy, for a high school hockey team, they really have some dedicated fans. I think they have more people at their games than the Arizona Coyotes in the NHL. He points out there's sloppy play and wonders why there's star players on the bench. Then we see the star player take the ice. It's Alex Pearson. He immediately scores, completing a hat trick. The coach gazes at him during a timeout. But it's 4. 3. They're still down 1. There appears to be a little rivalry with Titus on the other team, and Alex is ready to stick that puck right down his throat. Over the speakers, the announcer asks, why can't every player be as good as Alex? Which seems like really a mean thing to say when you have the power of an amplifier and you're watching kids play. And now, skating down the ice, Alex and another player from his own team, Goose, are fighting for the puck. Eventually, the teammate confusion throws them to the ice, causing a turnover, and the opposing team scores. Ice Hounds lose five to three. We're now back in the locker room. Alex is just a little too joyful for being on a team that just lost. And this was the start of me just really hating this guy. It's just. Again, maybe it was the mood I was in, but he. He's very unlikable through most of the movie.
Sabrina Bryan
I honestly was going, thinking his buddy was the main character, that this was not the guy that we were gonna be in any way rooting for throughout this movie.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Sabrina Bryan
And truth be told, I never once did root for him. No, I didn't either. I just thought he was such a schmuck. Like, I was just like, you're a douche, Knush. I don't. Ugh. I hope she never dates you.
Will Friedle
I mean, and he doesn't really learn anything, even at the end. I mean, he kind of does. They kind of throw it in, but it's like this guy's an. For like, 86 of the minutes of this movie.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes. Although the parenting in this, it does wishy wash. But there's a point. There's two, like, moments we're going to get to it. That I was like, I love that. I'm actually going to keep that locked in here. That. That. That, like, sentence, that moment, that. That meaning. So the parenting was actually, well, not bad.
Will Friedle
These were not awful parents.
Sabrina Bryan
Not awful. Right.
Will Friedle
Yeah, but I don't think they'd ever be in the. In the. In the hall of Fame hall of.
Sabrina Bryan
Fame that we have. No.
Will Friedle
No. I mean, they're clearly. The dad, especially, is clearly just kind of absent.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
But at least he tries to Put the hammer down. I don't know. But yeah. So yeah. Alex is joyful on the team that he just lost. He explains to his friend Goose, who he treats like for most of this movie, that it's just not about wins and losses. He selfishly focuses on his impressive personal play. But he apologized for the earlier bump. Goose thinks they should have won the game. But Alex breaks the news that they aren't a good team. They won't make the playoffs. But he needs to keep playing like this. If he does, he'll make the high school all star team. Alex has little to no care about what his team does. He's just trying to shine on by himself.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
Now after the game, we can't hang with Goose. He has to take care of his sister Emily on his bike ride home. Much like on the ice, he doesn't care much for etiquette. Running over Mrs. Jacklet's front yard flowers. She disapprovingly says hello. And he basically just bikes off without saying anything. Move number eight already in the first nine seconds of this movie. When he arrives home, his dad is in a hurry. He has a lecture in 12 minutes and needed Alex home to babysit. We meet an older lady, Ingrid, the housekeeper who was my favorite part of the entire movie. And learn. And we learned that Alex's dad is too busy teaching five classes a semester to attend his games. Which clearly bothers Alex, which makes sense.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
He also needs to pick up Emily from her bumblebee meeting tomorrow at 4. And if there's ever an emergency, he's told to call the neighbor, Mrs. Jacklitz, the one with the damaged flower hours. Now, with dad gone, Emily wants to watch Mr. Bunny. But Alex quickly changes the channel to Extreme Sports. The fight for the remote ends with Alex just getting his way. Emily gives him doe eyes. And then Mr. Bunny is on after all. And I liked the relationship the two of them had.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes. And we're seeing a little bit of a soft spot. And it's kind of. It's starting to calm down for me. I'm hating him less and less.
Will Friedle
He obviously gets along with his sister. He, you know, it's. He's not being a jerk to her. So it was very cute. And it feels like both these kids have a little power and manipulation issues, but it's working.
Sabrina Bryan
I haven't met very many that don't exactly.
Will Friedle
That kids that don't. At Lemon Oaks elementary the next day, Alex arrives to pick up Emily from Bumblebees, only to find out that the group has just been alerted that they're being shut down. Troop 57 is no more. The girls are clearly bummed. As the dead mother, Mrs. Moffat explains, they'll be split up into existing troops all over the city. But the girls are all best friends and have been. Okay, I, I was gonna save this for later. Who is this movie for?
Sabrina Bryan
To me at this point I'm thinking the, the movies for the little sister.
Will Friedle
So the movies for little girls. So they made this movie for little kids to watch? Little girls to watch, yes. Then why are they concentrating so much on hockey and the brother And I.
Sabrina Bryan
Don'T know because this storyline and truly what the like aspect of the movie is, is around the troupe and that's a younger demo. But they are using an older. But then I, because I did, I kind of went, wait a second. All right, so. And a lot of his hockey players were cast pretty old looking. I thought like they were mature looking. However, one of my favorite movies, Troop Beverly Hills, the main character is an adult, so.
Ryan Seacrest
Right.
Will Friedle
But Troop Beverly Hills is all girls. So if you're an adult mom, you can go watch Troop Beverly Hills. If you're a 12 year old girl, you can watch Troop Beverly Hills. Who the hell is this movie for? Boys aren't going to want to go watch a movie about little girls that are, that are doing the stuff like that. And little girls aren't going to want to watch a hockey movie about older dudes playing hockey. Who did they make this movie for?
Sabrina Bryan
I think the little girls would still join in because of the girl scouts. But yes, the little boy. This was not a well rounded.
Will Friedle
Like, I still don't know who the hell they made this movie for. Yeah, I'm sitting there watching the whole time. I'm like, is this for little girls? Is this for teen boys? What kind of movie is this?
Sabrina Bryan
Well, it's definitely not for teen boys.
Will Friedle
That I don't, I did not get because the lead character is a teen boy. It starts with hockey and then it go. And I'm just going, who? I don't, I don't know who they made this for. Like I don't get this movie. Who did they make this movie for anyway? Yeah, I just. So, yeah, they're splitting up. Troop 57. The girls are all best friends though, and have been friends, have been together forever. Mrs. Moffat then gets a call, leaving Alex with the troop. He tells them that one of their mothers is for sure gonna volunteer. So he wants to see their sad faces so they can guilt them into it again. This is a very High on manipulation kind of movie. One girl in the troop, Rachel, gets praised for her facial attempt, but she just has resting face. Emily realizes the whole situation is going to make Camporee the most important bumblebee event of the year. Impossible. With that, Mrs. Moffat returns, but she's got to leave. She leaves the troop with Alex to watch over them until their parents arrive. He is clearly unwilling, but is left alone anyway. The girls want him to continue running the meeting, but he has a lot to do. There is no way he's going to end up being their designated den mother. And then we get an optical flip. Gotta love an optical flip. And he is the dead mother sitting, at least temporarily sitting in the circle and learning about Troop 57 Sunflower that you hold every time you want to talk. Which is a straight up reference from Lord of the Flies. Yeah, the conch. Anyway, Alex is already throwing the rules out, letting girls wear tiaras and encouraging one to dress like a vampire. Bumblebee girl. And next up, screw this talking sunflower. No need. He asks one girl, teeny, what she wants to do, but there's no answer. Another girl suggests they look at pictures of cute boys in her Team Beat magazine, which Alex isn't thrilled about. But the idea of a go for it is thrown out. And the troops seem solid on that. It's when they try a new activity, craft or skill. And of course, Alex loves this idea. We cut to outside where the hockey star is walking with them sporting a smirk on his face. This is also our first look at the bumblebee uniforms. They are striped, yellow and black, very much making them look like bees. What did you think of the uniform, Sabrina?
Sabrina Bryan
I thought they were cute.
Will Friedle
They were cute. And the little girl who. Who doesn't talk at first, is one of the cutest girls I've ever seen on screen. She's adorable.
Sabrina Bryan
Adorable. She. And honestly, she, to me, even though she didn't say much, she really like captured me a lot throughout the movie.
Will Friedle
I thought the same thing.
Sabrina Bryan
I thought, honestly, the entire troupe was so cute.
Will Friedle
Yeah, like the entire. And the little girl who plays this sister is phenomenal. She's a great actress. The little girl who plays the sister.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, yeah, I thought they. I thought the cast did actually really well with this movie. Even though I didn't love the movie.
Will Friedle
Yeah. No, I. Yeah. But yeah, the kids were great. The kids were really great. They arrive at the skating rink and Alex starts a little hockey practice, which is, unsurprisingly, very messy, ending up with all the girls in a pileup. But Alex is still praising their good effort. Just in time for his DCOM appointed bully, Titus to skate up and call him a dork. This guy also insults the ice hounds, turning into a traditional hockey fight right there on the all family ice rink. The girls cheer on Alex, but eventually he's dropped to the ground. Of course, off camera, you just hear a thump and then he's dropped to the ground. Back at home, he's right, because I knew they. I was like, oh, oh, they're grabbing each other. They're actually going to throw a punch. But no, no. Back at home, he's resting with an uncooked steak over his eyes. Emily tells him it was the best bumblebee meeting they've ever had and asks if their mom was alive, would she take Emily to her meetings? And yes, we have an official dead mom alert either way. And again, this is 2010, so they're, they're starting to use this more, but then they're changing it and under wraps. It's like they can't figure out which way to go with it because remember, it was like they specifically said he was divorced and under wraps. And it's kind of like, why did you do that? But okay. Either way, she's very thankful that Alex can take her to her meetings. And she gives him a kiss on the cheek. It's a very sweet little moment. Back at school, Alex and Goose are talking. Talk to me, Goose. When Alex spots a pretty classmate, Matisse, in the hallway. Goose senses this and becomes immediately angry. Just because Alex is good at hockey, he's allowed to date anyone he likes. Why keep pursuing Matisse? She doesn't like him. Alex brags that he's starting to wear her down, which doesn't sound like the best meet cute ever made, and makes his way over to her. But she's a tough cookie. She doesn't seem to want to have much to do with him, even citing that he stole the puck from Goose and lost their game. Despite this cold interaction, he still asks her out for Friday night. But she doesn't even let him finish. She is, quote, doing something, and I love that she's kind of like, yeah, I'm doing whatever I can to be away from you. One character who saw this guy, and in a last ditch effort, Alex lets her know he's a hot commodity on campus and many girls would die to go out with him. Which girls love to hear, by the way, I've found in the past, you know, I'm pretty hot. You should date me.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, this was just like girls. I mean he hit another level of douche. Like he just, he just kept getting worse.
Will Friedle
Yeah, douche level accomplished quickly. Yep. Matisse, unimpressed, trips him to the ground which frankly might have been a little aggressive.
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Will Friedle
Now back with Goose. He blames the response on not having a car, which wasn't mentioned anywhere. He wants to borrow his dad's because that'll apparently help. He knows his dad won't necessarily let him, but he plans on think thinking outside the box. And now it's time for another Icehouse game. But Alex isn't on the ice yet. He loves to have his own grand entrance, which is something the coach should stop. But he is basically Alex number one fan. And then when he does come out, it's almost like he's on the 1991 Chicago Bulls. Also worth noting, despite being a mediocre team with one star player, every seat is filled. There's a cheerleading team, a mascot T shirt, guns for Alex. He even has his own sponsor, Moses Roses. And now even the coach is fed up. This is all too much. And as a result, the referee warns the coach he'll either suspend Alex for his actions or every player will be benched for the rest of the season. And just like that, Alex is sent back to the locker room at home. Alex's dad is disappointed, and Alex agrees. How is he supposed to make the all Star team now? No, Alex's dad is disappointed in him as a son. And like the true narcissist he is, Alex makes it all about him. He's the victim for having initiative. He even says this is because his dad wants him to pay for his own upcoming car insurance. And with that, Alex jumps on the couch. Nothing left to do but just wait for the suspension to end. But his dad is not going to allow him to be lazy. So he puts him to work in the front yard. Finally, get this dude doing something right. Yikes. And later, Emily pulls Alex outside to see something. A few of her fellow bumblebees have arrived for a meeting, but he could care less. He runs off to play Madden football, ignoring them until they force themselves into his room. None of their parents took the bait. They don't have a new Denmark. They ask Alex to walk them to the community center. There's a buddy troop party for basket decorating. And that buddy troupe has a junior helper, one of the bumblebees sisters, Matisse. Alex's face lights up, and he completely changes his tone. Basket decorating? Absolutely. He loves basket decorating. He is in. And I've never in my life said basket decorating more than I just did. He rushes the girls over to the community center, where the activities have already begun. Have already begun. Alex immediately spots Matisse, and she's surprised to see him as a bumblebee mentor. He admits it's not a very guy thing to do, and so he jokes about that, but she thinks it's great. The other troop dead mother arrives. That's Dina, and she's a stern leader. Dina is Vicki Lewis. Vicki Lewis was on one of my favorite shows of all time. Newsradio and she's very funny. This movie was a little. The character was. It was like she was playing it like a Disney movie and no one else was, if that makes sense.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, yeah. She was, like, over the top. I actually thought this was one of my Sabrina sees. Does she have an accent? It seemed like she had.
Will Friedle
I don't think so.
Sabrina Bryan
Like, a bit of a. Like a Irish act. Like she was saying some. So many weird. Like she was saying so many words in a weird way. I don't know if it was like her character, but I thought her character was Irish. I was like, why do we have to have. Okay. I mean. All right. Because it didn't.
Will Friedle
Yeah, No, I don't think. I didn't pick up an accent. I think she was just trying to be hoity toity.
Sabrina Bryan
But it went away after this first scene, this introduction. Maybe she tried it once, like Princess.
Will Friedle
Leia in Star Wars. Another reference you won't get. There you go. But she started British.
Sabrina Bryan
I mean, I know you're not going to go back and listen, but if you do go listen, our. Our listeners, in the very intro, she seems like she has an accent, but then when you see her next and the rest of the movie, we never hear it again.
Will Friedle
All right, well, I have to. Now I have to go back and watch. Damn you. Damn you, Sabrina. Yeah. So Dina is a stern leader and with some slight witch qualities, if you ask me. We'll have to see how things are gonna turn out. I'm sure it'll be fine. Now it's craft time. Eric sits with his girls, decorating baskets. Eric jumps on his phone and calls his sponsors at Moses Roses to ask if they make baskets. And I was like, what?
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
And the other Bubblebees are already jealous of Troop 57 because he's letting them do whatever they want. They're actually having fun, but Dina is not feeling it. At the same time, Moses delivery of baskets arrives, and he covertly hides them under a table. And I was. I. I just didn't. Okay. He then officially meets Dina, who insults Troop 57. He praises their basket. They're unique and they're fun. But she reminds him there is no troop 57. Without Moffat, the chapters cease to exist. Alex fights back, but he's reminded the troupe needs a dead mother. And he quickly fakes a woman home with strep throat named Mrs. Zamboni. He's told to bring her to the next joint meeting. And the dread has already started to kick in. Matisse is not impressed with his aggression. She wants him to be more like a bumblebee. But when she sees his baskets from under the table, she can't believe it. They're beautiful. So I don't.
Sabrina Bryan
I rewatched it. I didn't understand it either. I was.
Will Friedle
So he bought a basket, and she was like, oh, my God. It's amazing. He unwraps it in front of her. It's covered in plastic. It's not like he's trying to, like, he did it. I don't understand what's happening.
Sabrina Bryan
I thought he was gonna be pulling these flowers out and the girls were gonna add them to the basket or something. Like, I thought it was gonna have, like, a decorative aspect that the girls were gonna have that no one else had. That's what I thought. Or I thought this basket was gonna be, like, four Matisse, but then it just was, like, not either, and not really. I didn't understand it.
Will Friedle
I didn't get it. I don't. And she's like, the baskets are right.
Sabrina Bryan
In front of her that they made.
Will Friedle
Yes.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, it was weird.
Will Friedle
And he reaches down and pulls out a covered basket, uncovers it, and shows it to her, and she's like, it's gorgeous. Of course it's gorgeous. He just bought it. You saw that happen, So. I don't. I, I, I, I. Yeah, he did.
Sabrina Bryan
Go outside and meet the. He didn't go outside and meet the van and, like, try to sneak it in anyway. It's like the delivery guy came. There was a moment where he was cheap and didn't give him a tip. Like, there was just, like. It was the. It was weird.
Will Friedle
I don't. I did not understand what the hell was happening here. And she was seriously, like, this is so pretty.
Sabrina Bryan
So pretty.
Will Friedle
I know you saw me, but I don't get it. It. I don't get it. Anyway, she's impressed for some reason and has no idea that he had them Ubered there. The girls realize There is no Mrs. Zamboni, and now they're doomed. But Alex promises a replacement, and in the meantime, he will be their den mom. The girls celebrate the announcement, but Alex knows he's in way over his head. Alex is hanging out in the coach's sporting shop, trying to butter him up. But Coach sees right through it. He can't reinstate him. Basically, his Moses Rose's sponsorship caused an issue because of another nearby flower shop the referee reams his family owns. Out of all things I expected from this movie, the business logistics of the flower industry was not one of them. Coach expects a Two week suspension. Alex can't believe it. How will he make the All Star team, which we also learned is coached by the referee? Reams. It's going to take a miracle to fix this. And then he sees Matisse over in the camping section. She assumes that they're there for the same reason. An upcoming leadership retreat for the Bumblebees. And so our favorite manipulative hockey player pretends he knows all about the excursion and transitions again into asking her out. She stops a mid sentence and says yes, but she assumes he was asking for a ride to the leadership event. Weird assumption. He's bummed. And then runs into a store display at full speed. It's a very. I did that on my date with the president's daughter, so they stole that from me. What'd I say? Yeah, Another hockey movie. It was. No, that's hbo.
Sabrina Bryan
No, that was.
Will Friedle
I forget. I don't know. I've been in so many. Sabrina, I'm kind of a hot commodity. You should date me back at home, Alex. Yeah, okay. I have to do anything. Anything nice. Back at home. Alex is running out of the house when the Bumblebees stop him. They need him for their meeting. He says he has a previous engagement and tries to pass it off to their maid, who is so ancient that it's the. It's so funny. She just sits there with this, like, duster that's on the circle. But she was actually very funny.
Sabrina Bryan
She for some reason gave me vibes from the assistant Mrs. Trunchbull. And Matilda has From that movie. I don't know if you.
Will Friedle
I've never seen Matilda. Can you believe that?
Sabrina Bryan
It's so good. And she's like, just old. And she's just like. Like every time she walks by, she doesn't really have any words. She just like.
Will Friedle
I Love the name Mrs. Trunchbull. Is a. Is a. I'll watch the movie just for that.
Sabrina Bryan
Ms. Trunchbull is. Yes. Oh, you've got to see it. It's good. Danny DeVito directed it. It's good. It's good.
Will Friedle
It's good. It's good.
Sabrina Bryan
It's my favorite thing I was ever in a. I was ever an extra in.
Will Friedle
That's right. You were in it. Okay, so we got to watch it.
Sabrina Bryan
Then all of us read the book. That was like, you know, at the. On the set, all you've. I mean, we sold. We skyrocketed those book sales just from how many kids were on set. Were all reading the book. It was so Good.
Will Friedle
Wait, who played Matilda in that one?
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, she's the one that plays the little girl in Mrs. Doubtfire.
Will Friedle
Oh. Oh, you're talking about Mara Wilson. Oh, my friend Mara. Okay, so we'll watch, because I know there's different versions of it. There was another Matilda that just came out not long ago. That was a huge dance number.
Sabrina Bryan
And then I think, oh, that was. That was a musical. Yeah, Yeah, I think. Because isn't it. Is it on Broadway or is it.
Will Friedle
Yeah, it is. So, Mara. Okay, I know Mara. We'll have more.
Sabrina Bryan
She's amazing.
Will Friedle
Okay, good.
Sabrina Bryan
That'll be amazing in it.
Will Friedle
Okay, good. I'll have to see it now. Yes. So he pitches the position of den mother as more of a supervisor than anything else and continues to strut outside. But before he can make it, his dad stops him. He has office hours all weekend, and Alex is stuck taking care of Emily while he's gone. And he's got chores to do if he's expecting that car. God forbid this guy has to work. He starts with cleaning the shed and complaining to Goose, who jokingly suggests getting little elves to help like he's Santa. But that sparks a real idea for Alex. The bumblebees are planning on making bird feeders out of milk cartons, but instead, he gaslights them into thinking their idea is too easy and his plan would be better and more difficult. They take them to eight, obviously, and now he's got them cleaning the backyard while he just watches on. Mrs. Jacklet spots the maneuver and is not, not impressed.
Sabrina Bryan
And I am triggered at this point, and I will talk about it in my Sabrina seats.
Will Friedle
Okay. Oh, wow. Okay. All right. Oh, boy.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, I can't wait.
Will Friedle
I can't wait. But when their dad gets home, the backyard genuinely looks like a Chip and Joanna Gaines kind of thing. The bumblebees have paid the price. They're all passed out in the room, exhausted because they're the ones who did all the work. And so now Alex is being walked out of the front yard with his dad covering his eyes. Is he finally getting a car? And when he uncovers his eyes, it is a car, but a true jalopy, which is a word that is not said enough. When they open the hood, pigeons fly out. His dad wants him to build the car just like he did when he was a kid. This is not what Alex is expecting. Nor was I, nor would any parent want to give him a dangerous car that he has to build himself.
Sabrina Bryan
It's not even like this is something we're gonna Do I realize I'm just so busy, but, you know, every Sunday we're gonna make this. This most beautiful. No, it was like, hey, good luck.
Will Friedle
Here you go.
Sabrina Bryan
Hope you don't die the first time you try driving this car.
Will Friedle
Exactly.
Sabrina Bryan
So this dad, like I said, he like, kind of flip flops back and forth for me. He's got some really great, you know, mentoring and. And like, the way he's keeping him accountable. I love that. But then he does things like this where I'm like.
Will Friedle
Like, dad, what are you doing, bro?
Sabrina Bryan
What are you doing? Oh, my gosh.
Will Friedle
100. I agree with you. This was not what Alex was expecting. And neither is the new, longer list of chores he's being given with these new expectations. What are his dad's intentions here? I think it seems like he's just trying to be a. But I don't know. I. I think he wants to teach him responsibility, but he gave him all.
Sabrina Bryan
This stuff after doing the gutters. Is that something your parents would have ever asked you to do? Like, clean the gutters?
Will Friedle
Not. Not for. I mean, again, it would depend. If you're in a California ranch style house and you've got to go up 10ft to clean the gutters, maybe.
Sabrina Bryan
Okay.
Will Friedle
But we were. We lived in a big two. Not big, but it was a regular sized house. But it was two stories. But my parents would not have put me on a ladder. Really dangerous.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, really dangerous. I mean, how many movies and TV shows do you see, like, the dad who's doing the gutter cleaning getting very hurt from being up on the ladder.
Will Friedle
Yeah. No.
Sabrina Bryan
So falling, like.
Will Friedle
And it was also weird. The whole thing was this. A lot of this didn't make sense. So he comes home and he sees what a good job his son is doing, right? So he gives him way more chores than a piece of car. And it was like, why? Why? It was like, congratulations, you're really doing well. Here's a punishment.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah. Here's even harder stuff. I guess I. I guess I didn't have the bar raised high enough for you.
Will Friedle
Yeah. There's so much of this movie where I was just going, I don't get this.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
So now with the new list in hand, he approaches the bumblebees for more help. But they're not having it. They're not interested in cleaning the gutters and are far more interested in earning badges. Alex offers his help, and they suggest starting with the Start a fire badge. He lies about not having a permit to start a fire and suggests getting four badges at once. Instead, they're interested in, once again, following the work of a con man. They paint the garage, clean his room, deliver papers, and work on the car engine, all while Alex is home creating his own badges and culling them in. So they're going on YouTube and they're learning how to build an engine from scratch. These eight year old girls, seven year.
Sabrina Bryan
Old girls, which I believe those videos are probably on YouTube, though at this.
Will Friedle
Point, not in 2010. They were. And it's also. It's. He's. The coloring in badges. Like the. The girls aren't going to notice. These aren't real badges. We've been bumblebees for years. We need certain badges. Now you're just coloring stuff. And they're like, yay. They wouldn't. They didn't know right when they start. He started coloring them was like, you can't fake the badges, bro. They're gonna know they're fake. But they didn't. They were super happy.
Sabrina Bryan
Nowadays they could do a quick scene of him, like on Amazon buying badges.
Will Friedle
Right, Exactly. For them stealing it from another kid.
Sabrina Bryan
That. Back then. Yeah, I know.
Will Friedle
Just. Yeah. So the girls are covered in grease. They're probably on the roof. And child protective services would, I'm sure, have opinions on this entire thing. Then things get worse. Dina, the rival dead mother, wants to meet with Ms. Zamboni. What are they going to do? They stall her while they prep inside. And once she's inside, they make it look like Mrs. Zamboni is getting a spa treatment. Now with her body covered, a face mask made of Thousand island dressing, and cucumber slices on her eyes. Alex also now does the worst fake woman's voice in the history of films. No one would buy this, ever. No one, let alone an adult. But I mean, no one would buy this, ever. Dina's not buying it, but somehow the girls make it work. And in the fracas, Mrs. Zamboni also says Alex will be going to the leadership powwow this weekend with Matisse. But Dena says that's against the rules. And on her way out, she tells Mrs. Zamboni to keep an eye on Alex Pearson. She doesn't trust him, and let's be honest, no one should. But this is where I was. Like, now they're going like kind of Mrs. Doubtfire, but it's awful.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Oh, the.
Sabrina Bryan
The Italian dress or what?
Will Friedle
It was Thousand island dressing.
Sabrina Bryan
Thousand island dressing was. It was making me, like, queasy. It was so gross looking. And of course, I got the idea that it's like a Mrs. Doubtfire Island. I saw the change. I was like, okay, we'll see where we go. Because we haven't really had anything like this so far in a Disney movie. Right? Like, probably for a reason, but this part was just gross. And the. Oh, the voiceover was cringy.
Will Friedle
He's like, I'm a woman now, and I'm Mrs. Zamboni, like, trying, uh, oh.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, you can't do that in front of the Godfather of voice acting. Oh, he's going to be pissed. Sound the alarm.
Will Friedle
It's just bad, though. It's just bad.
Sabrina Bryan
It was, it was. It was.
Will Friedle
I mean, just. Oh, just bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sabrina Bryan
So wonder if this was possibly not part of his audition.
Will Friedle
I don't know. I don't. I don't like to bash on young people acting because it's not an easy thing to do. You're also carrying the entire film. The guys in most of the movie.
Sabrina Bryan
He's actually, for the most part, hilarious. I thought so much of his little, like, fun things that he was doing. His comedy stuff was cute.
Will Friedle
Like, yeah, but it was great.
Sabrina Bryan
But this was. I mean, that's a lot to do. Like, it is very hard. People that think, like, oh, you should get into voice acting. It's like, it's really difficult. It is.
Will Friedle
And. And it's it. That. And that was that. Wow. That wasn't it. That wasn't it. Now alone, Emily is mad she didn't know about Matisse and calls for her other bumblebees. They're going to help him get ready for his big date. They know about girls the way that he knows about hockey. And I was like, okay, this will be cute. At least that night, they start working on his blackheads and moussing his hair. They also go over what he should talk about with Matisse, and the answer is her. They show him clothing options and choose a cute boy shirt. But they realize he's running late, so they shoo him out of the house and unveil his car, which has now been professionally painted and fixed by one of the girls dads. Well, again, she says he painted the car. The girls were supposed to have fixed the car. He painted it yellow so he doesn't actually say thank you, which I think is strange. And I kind of. I mean, it's like, so they painted it like a bumblebee. I get it. But it was like, okay, the girls are master mechanics all of a sudden, and in like a day or two, they fix the car and have it paint anyway this was a rough one for me. While he checks out the. It was one of those things where it was like, am I in a bad mood or is this movie putting me in a bad mood? And I think it's a little from column A and a little from column B. I'll be honest. We just need a banger. We haven't had, like, a banger in a while. Like, one where it's like, this movie's awesome.
Sabrina Bryan
I thought Unwraps was pretty good.
Will Friedle
We like, we liked Under Wraps a lot.
Sabrina Bryan
I gave.
Will Friedle
Under Wraps was good, but it's still like, God, I miss, like, my. We gotta go. Well, I think we're doing Xenon again. We got. Okay. Anyway.
Sabrina Bryan
We gotta get a good.
Will Friedle
Yeah. While he checks out the car, Mrs. Jacklets appears holding her dog. She thinks it's beautiful and knows that the bumblebees did it. She reminds him of the code that the organization lives by, integrity, fidelity, and readiness, and that it applies to den mothers, too. With that, he leaves Judgy McJudgerson and picks up Matisse. And again, she's right. And this is when I was like, oh, obviously she's going to be the one at the end who's going to help out. You just know she loves his new haircut. There seems to be an immediate spark as he opens her car door. He gets a text from the girls reminding him to talk about her. So now in the car, he asks her about her bumblebee history and she praises his work as a Denmark. He laughs. It's not like he had to join the army. But then we optical flip once again, right to the leadership powwow. It's being run by Dina, just like an army drill, and she is not impressed with how many cookies these troops are selling. When she gets to Alex, he says he doesn't know his troops total sales. Mrs. Zamboni does, but she's homesick with the Gretzky's. Okay, cute. Alex admits they are very behind, but this weekend he'll be taking them to the mall to get their numbers up. And all the dead moms gasp. The mall is Dina's territory. And now things have gotten very serious. They try and strong arm him out of the mall, leading him to a big speech about what's fair. And everyone agrees with him because they're right. You can't. You can't monopolize the mall, bro. Alex suggests that Dina's troupe shouldn't have exclusivity on the mall. Instead, they should have a contest. Whoever sells the Most cookies in the mall. Tomorrow gets the mall for the rest of the season. He's calling it a cookie blitz. All the den moms agree, except for Dina, who just pouts. Now Alex drops off Matisse, and she admits she was wrong about him. She's very impressed with what he did today, and she gives him a kiss on the cheek. The next day, Alex takes the girls to the mall for the blitz. He notices the girls have abandoned some of their more unique traits for more traditional bumblebee accessories. But he tells them they don't need to be typical bumblebees. They just need to be themselves. And, yes, he seems to be starting to mature a little bit, thankfully.
Sabrina Bryan
A little bit.
Will Friedle
Hopefully he's growing up. He gives them one last pep talk, and off they go for a montage. All the troops have gathered there and are fighting for customers. The bumblebees have even brought out the shirt gun and a mall train, which are big hits. But I have to imagine firing boxes of cookies into random people is probably extraordinarily dangerous.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, I think it actually would have been okay if they had done more of, like, a bundle of cookies in, like, a plastic. Yeah, cute. Decorative bag.
Will Friedle
She just cut to somebody like. Like, a bloody mouth, like, teeth knocked out, holding a box of thin mints. Like, thanks. So, yeah, very, very cute. Cute, but real dangerous. So, yeah, I don't know why that was okay, but I get what they're doing. And while Matisse and Alex have a little flirt together, Dena demands to finally see this Ms. Zamboni. The bylaws say the dead mother must be present, so she wants to disqualify the troop. Alex quickly changes his tune, saying that Ms. Zamboni is in the mall in the nearby Big and Beautiful U store. He promises she'll be back soon, but Dena sprints into the store to find her. Alex sneaks in behind her, and while Dina searches, Alex picks up some items for the rack and rushes to the dressing room. This way, he's able to talk to Dina through the door. You know, obviously, this is no Mrs. Doubtfire. I might even say it's Mrs. Misfire.
Sabrina Bryan
Ooh, thank you.
Will Friedle
Alex, in his terrible Zamboni voice, says, big girls need frocks too. And this was not my favorite scene. And by that, I mean it was just another in a long line of very bad scenes. Dina advises her to join the bumblebees, but Mrs. Zamboni pushes back trash talking and keeping it real with her. And all that does is make Dina madder, and the whole Time he's just throwing out large women's underwear that's landing on her head. Like, these are not big enough for me. And it was like, oh, my God, what am I watching? My eyes hurt. It's just. It's so. It's this. This movie really made me realize how much of a difference a good. Any good movie and any bad movie is, obviously. But any good dcom and any bad dcom are. They're so different.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
That it's. It's one of. But you wonder. It's. I go to kind of, how did this get made? Because you've got to go through so many levels of getting a film made, especially back in 2010 when the business was still the business. So you've got to go and you got to pitch and you got to do this, and you got to do. How did, first of all, nobody go, well, who is this for? Who's the movie for? Is this gonna be about the girls? Is it gonna be about the boy? Is it for boys? Is it for girls? Who is this movie for? And then you start getting the scripts in. I mean, eventually. I mean, the writer's good. I've worked with him. He's great. So is he getting parameters of what he has to put in and not. Because there's some things where you're just going, what's happening right now? How are they doing that? And this scene was one of them to me, where it's just like, what. What's going on?
Sabrina Bryan
Right There just seemed like there was a lot of little things like, that were, like, too much stuff put in. Right.
Will Friedle
Right. Maybe that's it.
Sabrina Bryan
You know, too many. Too many aspects. Like, even with the hockey, that, to me, clearly didn't need to be a thing. It. Like the hockey part of it, he could have been it. It literally could have been him with just this girl as his, you know, love interest. Yeah, the whole hockey part, which took a big chunk of it. Took a chunk in the beginning, took a chunk later on. Like, it's like that kind of. So I feel like it was like, just too many things. Instead of diving deep and really, like, getting a little bit more of a sussed out.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Sabrina Bryan
Not so chaotic type thing that was happening.
Will Friedle
I don't know if.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah. I don't know. I just. It just seemed like.
Will Friedle
Yeah, it was so. Yeah. So Alex. I agree. Alex is now in a Zamboni voice, says big girls need frocks, too. Dean advises them. Okay. So Dina gets matters. Keeping it real. Okay. And once she's gone, Matisse arrives to also talk to the door to the troop's new den mother, which causes for an even slightly bigger moral dilemma for Alex. It's an awkward conversation with his crush digging an even bigger unethical ditch by praising Alex to her, saying that he talks about her. And this makes Matisse blush and endears him even closer to her. But again, she's talking about a true master manipulator. But she also knows that he likes her because he's asked her out 14 times in the movie, so she's shocked.
Sabrina Bryan
That that could have been done. And I don't. It just. That part was so like, oh, come on, no one's gonna fall for this garbage. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, she's not even talking to a person face to face either. It's through a door. Like, I just was like, I. I don't.
Will Friedle
I just don't. I.
Sabrina Bryan
Her falling for him because he sees him with his little sister. Okay, yeah. Her seeing that he's, you know, maybe giving up time with his hockey situation to be with, like, the girls and get them to what they need to do. Okay, this was, like, I don't know, too far fetched for me.
Will Friedle
Now all of a sudden, he's dressing up like a woman. He's got a woman's voice.
Sabrina Bryan
It was so strange. Strange, yeah. It needed to happen earlier.
Will Friedle
Or not happen at all is what it should have been. Now, out of the dressing room and back in the mall, Alex rejoins the troupe who has won the Mall Blitz. These types of sale numbers will get them into Camporee for sure. And that's when Dena's Troop 57 girls, which is different than Heinz 57, arrive to make fun of their handmade Alex badges. Dina points out that these badges aren't even real and that Alex has been fooling them. Making Alex and his friends sandwiches should not result in a badge. Dina sarcastically apologizes, but says the badges will not count towards the camporee. Matisse and the girls are angry at Alex, and we all know that this is just one more of his lies. That night, Alex is at the ice rink just sitting in the stands when Goose joins him. The team has actually won four in a row without him, so maybe you're the problem. Alex calls it luck, because, you know, he's Alex. And rather than talk about somebody else, he immediately shifts the conversation to how Emily hates him and Matisse is mad. He tells Goose about the fake badges, and then his friend finally calls him out. He didn't come to see the team. He Came because he needs help. Goose says that this is a problem. Alex misses the point and thinks that he just has to make it look like he's fixing things. And this guy might just be a lost cause. Either way, it's time for the next troop meeting. And no one will talk to Alex. They will be mean, but not too mean, because they still need them. And then the girls find a nearby pair of binoculars and a map. It leads them on a scavenger hunt set to very odd music. They eventually spot Alex far away, calling them over to some tent. And now, because of that, he got them official orienteering badges. They just need four more badges to qualify for camporee. And he's dug up all the things in this campsite to achieve them. And so now we get another montage, this time with a little bit better music. And the girls getting everything done, from sit ups to erecting a tent to archery and starting a fire. But even with the badges, they're still short on cookie sales, which is how they pay for camporee. One camper suggests selling blood, which is, I think, a pretty good idea. But they land on selling muffins. They would need to sell over 2,000 muffins to make it worth, though. To make it work, though. And the only thing I kept thinking the entire time was the girl scout troop I saw set up outside of a weed dispensary, which is still the greatest thing ever. You told me such a good idea. Yes, and one of them to sell hot muffins at a cold hockey game. This obviously hits a nerve for Alex, but he has to admit it's a pretty good idea. And so it's time to prep these muffins. While Alex admits he can't really be at the game with them. He doesn't tell them it's because he's suspended, but he says it would be better if there was a real Mrs. Zamboni to be there. Maybe they should just pick a different spot. But the girls remind him it's the best place, hands down. And that's when they suggest, maybe Mrs. Zamboni is there. And so the girls begin the process of turning Alex into his female alter ego with prosthetics and makeup. And I don't have high hopes here, but let's see where it goes. So at the game again, it's packed like the king Stanley cup playoff. The girls are selling their cupcakes. And hilariously, the girls adapt cuter little baby voices to sell them. So maybe Alex's con man ways are starting to rub off on Them. That's great. And Dina is quick to approach them, asking where Alex is. When the girls seem nervous about his whereabouts, Dita thinks she has him on the ropes. She plans on telling the Bumblebees regional office. This woman is a total hard on for Troop 57. It's weird. And that's when Mrs. Zamboni arrives. It's Alex in full female makeup. And I have to say, it's actually not bad, the makeup, but it's not good either. I don't know.
Sabrina Bryan
I honestly knew this was gonna eventually have to happen, and I was surprised and actually pleased with it. I thought, like, again, we haven't seen Disney go for this or Disney Channel dcom. Like a decom. Go for this and this. I think If I'm thinking 2010, you're thinking of, like, all the movies that had, like, what. What was. Was it big like Hal or like the movies that were doing, like, a lot of prosthetics with the face and some of the.
Will Friedle
Oh, like Shallow Hal and all that stuff.
Sabrina Bryan
Shallow Hal, Yeah. So I'm thinking, like, it's around that time that a lot of movies are happening. And I was like, this isn't bad. Disney doing it was not that bad. I actually. Then it made me go, they should have done this so long ago.
Will Friedle
Yes. It feels like it was wedged in him.
Sabrina Bryan
And this outfit actually was pretty funny and was. If you think about a younger demo, too, was. Could have been used really well. Him doing the typical, trying to get in and out of his prosthetics, you know, like. Like Mrs. Doubtfire.
Will Friedle
Do Mrs. Doubtfire for kids. That's fine.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes. That's what I think it could have been. Instead, like, smorgasborged it with, like, a bunch of other crap that nobody cared.
Will Friedle
Exactly. Exactly.
Sabrina Bryan
Including this game. Including this game.
Will Friedle
Oh, the game was. Yeah. So Alex big. Yeah. The game was just pointless. Alex gives a big pep talk, and the money starts flowing. Even selling one to Matisse. Hilariously, Alex can't stop watching the game and getting angry about what he's seeing as Zamboni. He yells at the coach to put in Alex, but the coach yells back to who he assumes is a grandma. He's not here, but if he was, he's. He'd end the suspension and put him in right now. And so right there, Zamboni takes to the ice and scores. They figure out quickly it's Alex in a dress with hockey skates on who just jumps on the ice. Okay, so his teammates, especially Goose, are not very pleased. He's Once again, quote unquote, saved the day and in the process, completely ruined everything for the Bumblebees, since Dina will for sure bust them. Matisse is now disgusted as well. It was just like, what is he doing back at home? He tries to hang out with Emily, but she wants nothing to do with him either. He tries to talk to his dad for help, and this is when I noticed he's wearing a pretty insane toupee. Nothing to do with the movie, but I noticed it. I didn't know.
Sabrina Bryan
Now I have to go watch it.
Will Friedle
Go back and watch. Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, bad. Okay.
Will Friedle
Not trying to call him out, but it's pretty bad.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
His dad knows he just needs reassurance because he let down Emily terribly, but he can't give him that. Alex admits he did wrong and deserves punishment. He suggests six weeks or hard labor, but his dad is not interested in punishing him. He wants him to feel the consequences of ruining things, not just feel better by completing a punishment. Great. Great moral code there.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
Alex lets out some frustration by hitting hockey pucks outside and eventually is joined by Mrs. Jacklits, a dog. He walks the dog back over to her house and is invited inside by his neighbor. She knows all about the Mrs. Zamboni situation as well. While in the house, he sees frames of hundreds of bumblebee badges from the daughters and the granddaughters. He also sees an old picture of her daughter's troop, and it includes his mom. His mother was an excellent Scout, and he knows he let her down. Mrs. Jacklet said she can use some help around the house, and he and if he promises to do it, she'll be the troop's den mother again. This should happen way earlier. The next day, he joins the bumblebee meeting, and they're still giving him the cold shoulder. He admits he was a jerk and apologizes. He knows he wasn't a good den brother or a real brother, but he introduces Mrs. Jacklitz as the new den mother. She asks for some time alone with the troupe and talks about how they can't blame everything on Alex. He was just trying to help. So they're gonna go. So they're gonna do another go for it about forgiveness. And so now we're back at the big hockey game. For some reason, it's them versus their rivals, which includes that bully, Titus. And during their pregame huddle, Alex asks to speak. He apologizes for being a jerk and makes Goose the new team captain. But Goose says he doesn't want to be the captain. He wants Alex to be a good captain. And so now Alex is ready to implement the new offense around Goose. Talk to me, Goose. Even on the first play, they pull off a trick where Goose scores immediately. It's a hard hitting game with Alex basically being a decoy and getting destroyed when he has the punch puck. But he loves it. And next time down the ice, Alex dekes this way to the net, but decides to pass to Goose for the goal and the win. They took home the trophy with an assist. And now Goose is making the all stars. And Alex didn't even have to pass it. He did it because now he is unselfish. And Troop 57 was at the game. So was his dad. With Camporee tomorrow, he's concerned they don't have everything that they need. But they do. Except a den mom. They liked Ms. Jacklets, but he is their den mother. He accepts and is very excited about Camporee. At Camporee, it's bumblebee heaven with games and chants and unfortunately, Dina. She says there is no troop 57 because there's no den mother. But he says he is the den mother. The girls rush up with the rule books. As long as their parents agree, he can be the den mom. But Dina has one more thing up her sleeves. All the den moms need to be in full uniform. And as a latch ditch effort, Matisse has an idea. She changes Alex into a woman's bumblebee uniform, skirt and all. He emerges and gets applause and laughs, and his dad says he never thought he'd admit something like this, but seeing his son in a bumblebee uniform makes him proud. Everyone at Camporee loves it except Dina, who tells her husband, the referee, an all star hockey coach, about it. Did we know she was married to the ref? This guy's got his fingers and everything. Ooh, that sounded strange.
Sabrina Bryan
I definitely knew that.
Will Friedle
Okay. He hears her Karen, like, complaining and says he's going to do something about it. It feels like he's going to beat up Alex, but instead he offers him the spot on the all star team. He accepts it as long as it works with his bumblebee schedule. The girls are thrilled. Matisse seems turned on as they chant his name. We get our final credits with some patented dcom bloopers. And that is our movie. I'm exhausted. As cusaro Nepalist Logio de la picasonos.
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Let's do some real reviews. I've got the one star this week and it was written by somebody who's never written before, an animal. This was written by Alice and the cat. The dad is terrible. He ignores both of his children. He just makes me super mad. Any character flaws in his children I feel are directly linked to a complete and total lack of parenting or any sort of adult direction. Somehow Alex is expected to be a mother to his sister and a gardener and a mechanic. One star. It's not wrong actually, and super well written for a cat. Yeah, right. What do you have?
Sabrina Bryan
I've got the five star this time and it's from Julia. Liz the movie was okay. I thought it came out in 2009, though. Thank you. Julia.
Will Friedle
Five stars. Julia.
Sabrina Bryan
Five stars.
Will Friedle
And now we're gonna do our feature presentation. After watching this film, it's gonna be just punching myself in the face repeatedly. First person to hit me harder wins. I'm kidding. The feature this week is called Badge of Honor.
Sabrina Bryan
In all honesty, that's what it feels like. Jensen is doing most of the time with these games is punching repeatedly, punching.
Will Friedle
Us in the face. Hey, you've been doing well lately, and I think it's because he's not here.
Sabrina Bryan
I know. I think he intimidates me.
Will Friedle
Yeah, he's got Battle of the Network stars, whatever that show his wife is on. Badge of Honor. With this week's inclusion of the Bumblebee Scouts. That was obviously referencing the Girl Scouts. Maybe only second to cookies. Girl Scouts are known for merit badges, little achievement rewards to be sewn onto their uniforms. Now we're going to be given the name and description of a badge that at some point was or still is available in the Girl Scouts. We decide if it's real or fake. Three out of five wins.
Sabrina Bryan
Okay.
Will Friedle
Okay. Who. I don't think Jensen's here again today. Who's playing with us today? He's not. It's me, Tara. Yay. Producer Tara's with.
Sabrina Bryan
We haven't had you in so long. We miss you.
Will Friedle
Did you watch this film, producer Tara?
Sabrina Bryan
I did not.
Will Friedle
God, I envy you. It's on the list. It's on the list. Okay. Our number one badge is the Toilet Science badge, where the girls explore how plumbing works.
Sabrina Bryan
Is it, like. So we're supposed to ex or guess.
Will Friedle
If that's real or fake? I'm gonna. I think that's real.
Sabrina Bryan
I think that's real, too. You also have to guess if it's.
Will Friedle
Still around or if it's retired. Oh, okay. I think it's. I think it's real, and I think it's retired.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, I feel like there's a. It's got to be a different name.
Will Friedle
Name. It's real, and it's still around. Oh, my God. The Toilet Science badge. I don't even want to know what it looks like.
Sabrina Bryan
A toilet.
Will Friedle
So we're. So we're. We're. We're over one. Number two, the dental health badge, earned by brushing fake teeth and identifying sugar content in candy. No, I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say real and still available. Available.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, wait. So is it. Are they all real? And we're seeing if it's available or if it's.
Will Friedle
No. Somebody you Know we made some of these up.
Sabrina Bryan
Okay. No, I think this is a made up one. It's real and it's still around.
Will Friedle
Hey, I got one. All right.
Sabrina Bryan
Sugar content in candy.
Will Friedle
That makes sense. Number three, the Woodchuck badge. Awarded to excellence in chopping and stacking wood safely. They're not going to have them chopping wood, are they? I'm gonna say this is fake.
Sabrina Bryan
No, I think this is fake, but I think it could have been one. But maybe.
Will Friedle
Maybe. Yeah, I'm gonna say fake. It is real, but it's retired. Oh, my God. That was real. The question becomes, though, with with the Girl Scouts is how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? Is the question. Number four, the Skydiver badge given to scouts over 18 who have completed one skydive. This can't be real. There aren't girl scouts that are 18, are they?
Sabrina Bryan
I think you. Yeah, I think you graduate in high school. High school. So no.
Will Friedle
Yeah, fake.
Sabrina Bryan
It is fake.
Will Friedle
Yay. All right, that's true. So I got to get this one to win. Number five, the Eating for Beauty badge. A badge given to encourage girls to eat foods that make your quote, unquote, make your skin glow. Oh, it seems like something that would be real and, God willing, retired. That's what I'm. I'm going to say real and retired. How about you, Sabrina?
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, I think it was something they would have done back in the day.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Sabrina Bryan
But now retired.
Will Friedle
Yeah, it is real.
Sabrina Bryan
It retired. And it was made in the 80s just for. Okay, it was. I did. I did, too.
Will Friedle
Did you win?
Sabrina Bryan
I got 13 or 14 and.
Will Friedle
Yeah, then you won't. Won. Then you. Great. We won.
Sabrina Bryan
Wait, what did you say about the eighties, Tara?
Will Friedle
It's from the eighties. It's. It was made in the eighties.
Sabrina Bryan
It was made in the eightties.
Will Friedle
Yeah, that seems about right. That seems about right. Can we do a Sabrina Seas?
Sabrina Bryan
We can. They're actually kind of funny a little bit to this. Yeah. Okay, first of all, poor Rachel. We're all best friends except for Rachel. That first, like, thing, I was just like, dang. But then there was really nothing that came from it, except for she was just kind of a little like. I want to call her edgy. She's just a little different, but, like, little emo. Yeah, a little emo, which is nothing wrong with it. Okay, I'm going to move past a couple of them. Also, my jaw dropped when I saw Matisse come on the tv. I immediately was like, I know her I know her. I know her. And then to find out she's Monica Dutton from Yellowstone. Oh, I was like, I forgot to text Tara. But I was like, we've gotta just reach out just to see if maybe she'll come on.
Will Friedle
Because after the review we just gave.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, yeah, probably not. But I mean, I'm sure she had a lot of fun filming it and, you know, whatever. But to go from a Disney, this is another, like, she's on one of the biggest like. Like, shows that's been around recently. Like, that would be. So it was amazing to see that again. Disney finds the best talent that just ends up going on to amazing careers. Did we. You didn't tap on. I would think it was going to happen. This is our second movie that a Zamboni kind of played a big part in it.
Will Friedle
A pretty big. The other one was what?
Sabrina Bryan
It was the one that was the figure skating. Remember he was in on the Zamboni. Yeah, we use it princess.
Will Friedle
Oh, that's right. Well, we use it in H double hockey sticks, too. And you.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes, that. So it's like. Well, you guys used it. But like, that one and this one. I mean, his name being Zamboni, like, kind of made Zamboni like a character. Just like the. Like him coming into, like, a. As a knight.
Will Friedle
Disney. Disney's got a real Zamboni for those.
Sabrina Bryan
They seriously do. So I thought your Zamboni references. I was like, oh, God, they're just gonna hear these. These over and over again. But you, you know, held it together. Or maybe it's just the mood.
Will Friedle
It is. I am not in a Zamboni mood today.
Sabrina Bryan
Okay, Trigger. So my. I was watching it, and I actually was tempted, but I didn't end up doing it. Was tempted to text my sister, like, this movie's triggering me. Because I swear you did crap like this to me. Being so much younger. She would say, hey, I bet you couldn't. She would make me do her chores, but manipulate me into doing them. I bet you couldn't vacuum this entire room in under three minutes. There's no way you could do it. I was like, yes, I can. Yeah, everything. Because she always, like, I was so. I always have been very competitive. I bet you couldn't go get the mail in under 60 seconds.
Will Friedle
Oh, my gosh.
Sabrina Bryan
And so I was kind of getting triggered watching this. This guy just manipulate his sister and her little friends to do all this the he was supposed to do. You're a jerk and I hate you. I love my sister. It was a time in her life that, you know, why not manipulate your little sister? I was there to. To do anything to make her think I was cool. And then the la. The la. The last little thing that I wrote was when she's. When the. The girl's age was a little. Another questionable thing to me. And this is the last thing. When she does the.
Will Friedle
The.
Sabrina Bryan
The newspaper, I'm like, why is she not just riding a tricycle, but like a big wheel? Like the ones you lean back on?
Will Friedle
Yeah, like a little kid's big wheel. Like a little. Little kid's big wheel.
Sabrina Bryan
Monroe wouldn't even ride one of those right now. Unless it was, like, the only thing to do in a backyard at a friend's house.
Will Friedle
That's weird. I had a good machine, which were the best.
Sabrina Bryan
There was so many questions that were just weird. And we went over the rest of them. But, you know, all I could think of this whole movie was. Was bumblebee tuna. Bumblebee tuna. Bumblebee tuna.
Will Friedle
From Mr.
Sabrina Bryan
Mom.
Will Friedle
Is that what you're talking about?
Sabrina Bryan
From Mr. Mom? Yeah, from Ace Ventura, Pet Detective. When nature calls. Bumblebee tuna. Bumblebee tuna.
Will Friedle
Oh, God, I haven't seen. That's Ace Ventura 2. I haven't seen that in forever.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, my God, it's so funny. That's the only thing that kept making me really smile during Mr.
Will Friedle
Mom. Might not have been Bumblebee. Yeah, Mr. Mom was another thing, but. Oh, that's right. Bumblebee. Tune in.
Sabrina Bryan
Bumblebee tuna. Bumblebee tuna.
Will Friedle
All right, let's rate our film. Let's. It's gonna be. It's gonna be between one to two.
Sabrina Bryan
All right.
Will Friedle
I'm kidding. No. One to ten. Ten is the best. Our options this week we've got one to ten flower shop business logistics. One to ten mean announcers talking sunflowers, decom dead mom. So let's not do that. Yeah. One to ten child protective service call calls. Bad fake woman voices. Thousand island face masks. Those are your favorite. One to ten yellow cars. One to ten misses Misfires or one to ten insane toupees. Why don't you pick? What do you got, Sabrina?
Sabrina Bryan
You want me to do? I gotta do the insane toupees? Because I've gotta go back and see that.
Will Friedle
I gotta go back and see. I gotta see if Vicki Lewis started with an accent.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, I think she did.
Will Friedle
Oh, God, I've gotta see that now. So we'll figure it out.
Sabrina Bryan
I think I go first.
Will Friedle
You do set the tape.
Sabrina Bryan
Sorry to take a swing at this. This Set the pace.
Will Friedle
What do you guys.
Sabrina Bryan
You know what? Again, we talked about it. I wish we could go back and actually redo this movie and do it along the lines of a kids Mrs. Doubtfire. Like it would have been a lot and just keep it there. Right? The love interest and trying to get these kids accepted into this. This camp or whatever. Like, you know, it was just all the thing, the hockey, the everything. It just was. It wasn't my jam. I'm glad it was. At least it was a shorter one of them. And it wasn't, you know, too into the hundred and one hundred ten minutes situation. Cause I was glad for it. I did not like it much. There were some cute moments. The girls were adorable. Okay, I think I'm going with a 6.58 insane toupees.
Will Friedle
Oh, my God. You're this. That's huge. Huge score. Where I figured you were going to be.
Sabrina Bryan
Really?
Will Friedle
Wow. Yeah, absolutely.
Sabrina Bryan
To me, it was. It was an easy watch. I wasn't as bored as the last one that I gave a really bad score to.
Will Friedle
Right.
Sabrina Bryan
But I was not as like, oh, this is such a good movie and I'm ready for such a good movie. I want one of those just Humdinger D comms. Give it to me, Tara. I need a good one.
Will Friedle
I agree. Well, hopefully it'll be the next one we announce, but I have to first rate. I think you're being hugely generous. I did not. I do not understand who this movie was for. I did. It was like they threw everything at the wall just to see what would stick. It's a hockey movie. It's a little girls movie. It's a Mrs. Doubtfire movie. It's a. I did not understand what was going on. A lot of it made no sense. Then he's on the ice in the. In the dress. He just grabbed skates and got. None of this made sense to me. This movie was a massive jumble of weirdness to me. And again, admittedly, not in a good mood. But again, I also do not know if I was not in a good mood when I watched it or it put me into a bad mood. I can tell you I had to watch it in chunks because I just. I didn't like this movie. I am giving this, generously, four insane toupees. This movie I did not get. Again, I still. You gotta be able to point to who the movie's for. Who is this for? Is this a little girls movie? Is this the main star as a teenage guy? I don't understand who this movie was. For. So, yes, this was not one of my favorites, but hopefully next week we're gonna write the ship because we've had some good ones. You're right. Under Wraps was good. But then we had a couple back there we liked Halloween Town we liked Under Wraps, but they're Phantom of the Megaplex we did not like. There's a couple here that we haven't had. Some great ones late. But our next movie is not just a sequel. It's a Zequil. That's right. It's Xenon, the sequel from 2001, a sci fi fantasy return to the character who debuted in the very popular 99 DCOM, Xenon Girl, the 21st century, which I'm gonna have to watch again because I'll be lost.
Sabrina Bryan
We have to make sure. I'm texting you. You text me if I don't. We have to watch the first one again.
Will Friedle
Agree 100%.
Sabrina Bryan
We have to be able to sort of compare it.
Will Friedle
Yep. And we need to, like. I can remember it. I remember.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah. But the full, full backstory before we move on.
Will Friedle
I remember. I remember even Stu Krieger, how he. He pitched it. I remember all of it.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes. And I got to see Raven in the first one again because she's just so cute.
Will Friedle
I can't. Well, it'll be good. So, yes. Hopefully this will write the ship and at least for me, wash the. The taste of Den brother out of my mouth. So Xenon, the sequel. You can stream it now on Disney. Get ahead of us and see what you think. Untarnished by our own stupidity, myself included. I'm looking forward to that one. Definitely. I can't wait because, yeah, I really liked the first one. I remember liking the first one. It's very Disney Channel. I really want to see what they did with the second one. So if you want to go check out what we thought about the first one, you can always go back. And I have to listen to it too, because I don't remember how I scored it. I want to go back and figure all that stuff out. But also remember to subscribe to the dedicated Magical Rewind feed and you can catch up with all the popular DCOM cast and crew members we've interviewed so far. You can also follow us for more information at. Magical Readwide Pod on the Instagram machine right now. This was a rough one. Thanks, everybody.
Sabrina Bryan
Bye bye.
Will Friedle
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Network: iHeartPodcasts
Theme: A rewatch and in-depth breakdown of the Disney Channel Original Movie (DCOM) Den Brother (2010), complete with behind-the-scenes context, cast callbacks, and the hosts' trademark banter.
This episode of Pod Meets World shifts from their regular "Boy Meets World" fare to the DCOM universe, spotlighting the little-remembered 2010 film Den Brother. Hosts Will and Sabrina revisit this odd mashup of hockey tropes, Girl Scout antics, and (failed) Mrs. Doubtfire homages, dissecting its premise, casting, target audience (or lack thereof), and why it faded from DCOM history despite a strong premiere. Listeners are treated to sarcastic asides, personal childhood tales, and infectious nostalgia—even in the face of a truly middling movie.
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|------------------------------------------------| | 04:57 | Episode theme & DCOM background | | 06:46 | Sabrina and Will on real-life scouting | | 18:46 | Movie opens; Alex and the hockey angle | | 23:18 | Hosts question the movie's intended audience | | 24:34 | Extended debate on DCOM demographics | | 41:34 | Sabrina compares Ingrid to Matilda's Trunchbull| | 49:25 | Cross-dressing/Mrs. Zamboni scenes critique | | 64:49 | Key lesson: "feel consequences" | | 72:07 | Badge quiz game ("Badge of Honor") | | 76:11 | "Sabrina Sees" segment: cast connections etc. | | 80:12 | Recurring joke: "Bumblebee Tuna!" | | 81:33 | Ratings: "Insane Toupees" scoring | | 84:38 | Preview: Xenon the Zequel is next |
Producer Tara challenges Sabrina and Will to spot real or fake historic Girl Scout badges.
Example:
Rating System: "Insane Toupees" (out of 10)
Den Brother left the hosts amused but bewildered: lauding the cast of young girls for their cuteness and some comedic moments, but otherwise puzzled by the movie’s scattered tone and target demographic. Its half-baked plot borrowed too liberally from better films (notably Mrs. Doubtfire), while jamming in hockey, Girl Scout hijinks, and slapstick drag without nailing any of them. Even so, the hosts' chemistry and good-natured exasperation keep the recap lively and engaging for DCOM fans and ‘90s kids alike.
Looking ahead: Next week, the team will tackle Xenon: The Zequel—and both hosts express hope for a "banger" after the muddle of Den Brother.
Notable Quote for the Road:
"[This movie] was a massive jumble of weirdness to me. And again, admittedly, not in a good mood. But again, I also do not know if I was not in a good mood when I watched it or if it put me into a bad mood." – Will Friedle [82:42]
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