Elisa Donovan Meets World (in SF!)

Summary

Pod Meets World – Episode Summary: "Elisa Donovan Meets World (in SF!)"

Release Date: August 11, 2025
Guest: Danielle Fishel
Podcast: Pod Meets World by iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

In this engaging episode of Pod Meets World, host Ryder Strong welcomes actress Danielle Fishel, best known for her roles in iconic 90s television shows such as Clueless, Boy Meets World, and Sabrina the Teenage Witch. Recorded live in San Francisco, the episode delves into Danielle's nostalgic reflections on her career, memorable experiences on set, and the enduring legacy of the projects that defined a generation.

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Lucasfilm Tour Experience

Ryder Strong [03:46]:
"Writer. How did the Lucasfilm tour come about? I know our dear friend and super fan Easton Allen set it up for us."

Danielle recounts an exclusive behind-the-scenes tour at Lucasfilm, organized by their mutual friend Easton Allen. Although the tour wasn't fully open to the public, Danielle and her co-hosts were granted VIP access, allowing them to glimpse beyond the iconic Yoda statue into the heart of Industrial Light & Magic (ILM).

Danielle Fishel [04:24]:
"It was really special. So, yeah. So yesterday we got to see beyond the Lucasfilm lobby. And they have, like, everything from every movie I've ever loved."

The tour coincided with ILM's 50th anniversary, showcasing legendary effects and memorabilia from a multitude of beloved films. Danielle expresses her long-standing admiration for ILM, highlighting her early fascination with their groundbreaking work.

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Reflections on "Howard the Duck"

Danielle Fishel [09:04]:
"It's the most disturbing movie I've ever seen, but in a way, it's fascinating."

The conversation shifts to the notoriously quirky film Howard the Duck. Danielle shares her childhood memories of the movie, including how it inadvertently taught her about more mature topics like contraception.

Danielle Fishel [10:26]:
"I've been traumatized ever since I saw Howard the Duck. And I've been dealing with it, trying to figure out what that comes from."

Both Danielle and co-host Will Friedle discuss the film's bizarre elements, emphasizing its cult status and the odd blend of humor and strange narrative choices that have made it a memorable, albeit peculiar, part of 80s and 90s pop culture.

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Auditioning and Joining "Clueless"

Ryder Strong [22:14]:
"Do you remember your audition?"

Danielle delves into her audition process for the beloved film Clueless. She recounts preparing extensively, drawing inspiration from her academic background in 19th-century English literature to embody the character Amber, Cher's over-the-top valley girlfriend.

Danielle Fishel [22:38]:
"I did a very deep character dive. Yeah."

She describes the intimidating atmosphere during her final audition at Paramount and the supportive environment created by the cast and crew once she secured the role. Danielle highlights the meticulous attention to detail in character development, particularly through wardrobe and styling, which played a crucial role in bringing Amber to life.

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Experiences with NSYNC and Boy Band Culture

Ryder Strong [53:39]:
"We also found our history hanging around the NSYNC guys in the late boy band 90s."

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around Danielle's interactions with the popular boy band NSYNC during the filming of promotional materials. She shares anecdotes about dating band members Joey Fatone and Lance Bass, navigating the intense fandom and the complexities of relationships within the entertainment industry.

Danielle Fishel [55:11]:
"Joey and I started dating. That was like under the, under the, under the radar."

Danielle candidly speaks about the whirlwind nature of teenage relationships in the spotlight, the challenges of maintaining privacy, and the impact of sudden fame on personal lives.

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Impact and Legacy of "Clueless"

Danielle Fishel [40:19]:
"It's beautifully crafted, it's incredibly well-written, it's perfectly cast."

The conversation shifts to the enduring legacy of Clueless. Danielle emphasizes the film's sharp writing, memorable performances, and its ability to authentically capture the essence of the 90s. She discusses how the movie has remained relevant by addressing universal themes of adolescence, relationships, and personal growth, all while serving as a cultural time capsule of its era.

Will Friedle [42:05]:
"The 'Clueless' represents the 90s, like 'Breakfast Club' represents the 80s."

Co-host Will Friedle echoes Danielle's sentiments, comparing Clueless to other decade-defining films and highlighting its significance in encapsulating the spirit of the 90s.

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Working on "Sabrina the Teenage Witch"

Ryder Strong [49:36]:
"What was it like joining a show that was already set in its little successful routine?"

Transitioning to Danielle's role as Morgan Cavanagh on Sabrina the Teenage Witch, Danielle shares her experiences joining an established series. She discusses the dynamics of integrating into a well-oiled production, her character development, and the camaraderie among the cast.

Danielle Fishel [50:31]:
"Bringing her into college was a new challenge, but working with Melissa was just... she's such a pro and super easy to work with."

Danielle highlights the show's evolution over seasons, the introduction of new characters, and the balance between personal growth and maintaining the show's foundational elements.

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Fashion and Character Development in "Clueless"

Danielle Fishel [44:46]:
"Wardrobe fittings are like my worst nightmare, but this was my first experience of a long, and I went, oh, this is actually meaningful."

Delving deeper into Clueless, Danielle discusses the meticulous process of wardrobe fittings and how each piece of clothing was integral to defining her character's flamboyant and fashion-forward persona. She credits the creative team, especially the hair and makeup department, for transforming her appearance to align perfectly with Amber's character traits.

Will Friedle [46:11]:
"Father just saying, where's my collarless shirt from Fred Segal. You just need that one line to know that he was fashion conscious too."

Co-host Will Friedle adds that even minor dialogue and wardrobe choices played significant roles in fleshing out the characters, creating a universally relatable yet distinctly 90s aesthetic.

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Final Reflections and Closing Thoughts

As the episode nears its conclusion, Danielle Fishel reflects on the personal and professional growth she experienced through her varied roles in the 90s. She expresses gratitude for being part of projects that not only entertained but also resonated deeply with audiences across generations.

Danielle Fishel [66:36]:
"Thank you so much for being here with us. You are the best. Loved it."

The hosts wrap up the episode with heartfelt thanks to Danielle, celebrating her contributions to 90s pop culture and her ongoing legacy in the entertainment industry.

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Notable Quotes

• Danielle Fishel [09:04]:
  "It's the most disturbing movie I've ever seen, but in a way, it's fascinating."

• Ryder Strong [22:14]:
  "Do you remember your audition?"

• Danielle Fishel [40:19]:
  "It's beautifully crafted, it's incredibly well-written, it's perfectly cast."

• Will Friedle [46:11]:
  "Father just saying, where's my collarless shirt from Fred Segal. You just need that one line to know that he was fashion conscious too."

• Danielle Fishel [66:36]:
  "Thank you so much for being here with us. You are the best. Loved it."

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Conclusion

This episode of Pod Meets World offers a heartfelt and comprehensive look into Danielle Fishel's journey through some of the most beloved television and film projects of the 90s. From her formative experiences on set to her reflections on enduring cultural icons, Danielle provides listeners with rich insights and personal anecdotes that celebrate the golden era of TGIF programming. Whether you're a long-time fan or new to Pod Meets World, this episode serves as a delightful trip down memory lane, filled with laughter, nostalgia, and genuine camaraderie.

Transcript

[Danielle Fishel]

This is an I Heart podcast.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Elisa Donovan]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Elisa Donovan]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Elisa Donovan]

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[Ryder Strong]

I'm talking that mew mew off the Runway red leather bomber, the Cousteau Barcelona.

[Will Friedle]

Top with the cowboy on it.

[Elisa Donovan]

Or that Patagonia fleece in the 2017 colorway.

[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Elisa Donovan]

Ebay is the place for pre loved and vintage fashion.

[Will Friedle]

EBay? Things people love.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

Really?

[Elisa Donovan]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Elisa Donovan]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Elisa Donovan]

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[Elisa Donovan]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

Okay, let me ask you a question. What is the key to having a productive morning?

[Elisa Donovan]

It's breakfast, right?

[Ryder Strong]

Yes. And that leads to another question. Who here has time for breakfast?

[Will Friedle]

I know I don't.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Elisa Donovan]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Elisa Donovan]

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[Ryder Strong]

Writer. How did the Lucasfilm tour come about? I know our dear friend and super fan Easton Allen set it up for us.

[Elisa Donovan]

Purely Easton.

[Ryder Strong]

But did you just. Did you just bring it up that.

[Elisa Donovan]

You had brought it up? He offered. He's like, we reached out, both of us. I feel like he was like, hey, while you guys are up there, you know, I have a friend who works at Lucasfilm, and you guys can have a tour.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

What?

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Elisa Donovan]

Get past the Yoda statue and into the, you know.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Is it open to the public? Those tours, like, how does.

[Elisa Donovan]

No can go to the lobby, so you can go in and you can see, you know, some of the stuff that's in the lobby. Just through the window, I guess. And then. But yeah, because we got. We're super cool.

[Will Friedle]

We're vips, baby.

[Elisa Donovan]

We're vips. That's right.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

It was really special. So, yeah. So yesterday we got to see beyond, beyond the Lucasfilm lobby. And they have, like, everything from every movie I've ever loved. And.

[Will Friedle]

Well, that's the other thing is because it was. It's like the 50th anniversary of ILM, they had a big. Their big push to show all the ILM stuff, which everybody knows is Industrial Light and Magic. So that's basically done everybody in history.

[Ryder Strong]

I did not know that until yesterday.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Elisa Donovan]

She's like, what's ilm?

[Will Friedle]

I was like, oh, geez.

[Danielle Fishel]

Ilm.

[Elisa Donovan]

I was the geek who bought the, like, the ILM Giant, like, encyclopedia that was like a special edition you could only buy for, like, $100.50 back in 1990.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Elisa Donovan]

I was obsessed with this company and.

[Will Friedle]

It'S a brilliant company. Yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

It was also, you know, I was never into video games, but I was into computer games and Lucas made the best computer games. The early on computer games.

[Ryder Strong]

So trail.

[Elisa Donovan]

No, but they basically took the concept of Oregon Trail, like a text based graphics. Secret of Monkey island is like my favorite Day of the tentacles. Another great one.

[Will Friedle]

What was Maniac Monkey Island.

[Elisa Donovan]

Oh, it's so funny. So I was like 10 and they, they. There's like six of these now or more. But it's you. You play a guy who wants to be a pirate and he's. His name is Guy Brush three wood.

[Ryder Strong]

And I'm sorry, say that one more time.

[Elisa Donovan]

Guy Brush three point.

[Ryder Strong]

Guy Brush. That's a first name.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Ryder Strong]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

It's a great first name.

[Elisa Donovan]

And it's all text based. There's originally there was no voices or whatever. So it's just like reading a book basically. But you get to make all these adventures and he wants to be a pirate and so it's hysterical. Like the sense of humor and the choices and the puzzles and I mean like I played this like four times when I was a kid anyway, the Lucas. So I was always obsessed with them as a company even.

[Will Friedle]

When did they do Wolfenstein? Because I know you were huge into Wolfenstein.

[Elisa Donovan]

No, that was. That was.

[Will Friedle]

You introduced me to that.

[Elisa Donovan]

Yeah, that was a whole nother company. No, their games were like. You would never die in their games. You know, it was like you would just get stuck because you had to figure out the puzzles. Yeah, they were just really well thought out, character based, well written games. And that was what kind of got me into Lucas in that lull between the Star wars movies, you know, because I mean, think about it. They weren't making anything when we were actually teenagers. It wasn't until the special edition came out in 97.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, there's no star making anything.

[Elisa Donovan]

ILM was doing everything right. They were doing all the effects. But no, but Lucas wasn't doing anything.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Elisa Donovan]

Yeah. So anyway, it was a great tour.

[Will Friedle]

I felt a little bad because I was pointing out stuff to her like, no, that's actually from this or this is from that.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

She's like, do you want to do the tour?

[Ryder Strong]

I will say is that it was a great tour for us to see the stuff, but it's not like when you go on a tour of something at Disneyland and the guides have like a 20 year history on all the things and they know exactly where everything Is. And they've got special facts about stuff. She's like, one of these is original. I don't know which one it is.

[Will Friedle]

That's true.

[Ryder Strong]

I think this was from.

[Will Friedle]

And I was like, galaxy Quest. She's like, right, right, right.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes, I know. She really did actually want you to take over the tour.

[Will Friedle]

That's why I felt kind of like a jerk, because I was like, you okay, that's not what this is from. You know, that kind of thing, so.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, you weren't being a jerk at all, but you did seem like a fan, which is great.

[Will Friedle]

I'm a total fan. I love Star wars, anything fantasy based.

[Ryder Strong]

The really cool thing was that for me, of course, because I like to shop. There was two stores. Two stores where the things you could buy in those stores you could only get in those stores.

[Elisa Donovan]

Or. That's how they get you.

[Will Friedle]

That's how they get you.

[Ryder Strong]

That's how they get you. So I bought Jen. You know, Jensen loves hats, and he's really particular about his hats. So I was looking, I was like, do I get him a Lucasfilm hat? Because I like corduroy hats. They had corduroy hats of Lucasfilm and ILM and so I was like, ooh, what do I get? And I'm asking Ryder, do you think he'd prefer ilm? There's no service in there, so I can't ask Jensen, do you think he'd prefer ILM or Lucasfilm? He's like, I think he'd like. I think he'd prefer ilm. And then Ryder goes around a corner and he goes, danielle, come here. And he calls me over, and they have a Howard the Duck, a willow, and two different Indiana Jones hats.

[Elisa Donovan]

Temple of Doom and Last Crusade hats.

[Will Friedle]

Like, old school style Raiders at.

[Elisa Donovan]

Have you. What?

[Will Friedle]

Temple of Doom and. And Last Crusade.

[Ryder Strong]

Maybe they were sold out.

[Danielle Fishel]

Maybe.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

They may have been sold out.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

But have you. Have you talked to him yet?

[Ryder Strong]

I sent him a picture of it, yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

Howard the Duck.

[Ryder Strong]

Howard the Duck. He lost his mind. He was like, yes, Howard is the king. I will wear Howard.

[Elisa Donovan]

That's like the most obscure. Have you seen Howard the Duck recently?

[Danielle Fishel]

No.

[Elisa Donovan]

I've heard it's, like, not as bad as.

[Will Friedle]

You've never seen Howard.

[Elisa Donovan]

I saw it when I was a kid.

[Danielle Fishel]

I never seen it.

[Elisa Donovan]

I was so confused.

[Will Friedle]

So disturbingly weird and wonderful.

[Elisa Donovan]

He, like, pulls out a condom out of.

[Will Friedle]

You see a naked duck. There's duck boobs in, like, the first exactly, like 90 seconds of the movie.

[Elisa Donovan]

The main bad guy turns, he's a human, but then he really. He turns into an alien and his tongue comes out and is, like, trying to, like, get them with his. It's, like, so bizarre.

[Will Friedle]

It's great. It's weird and wonderful, and the stories behind how it was made are terrifying.

[Elisa Donovan]

It's basically the only movie that George Lucas, like, executive produced between, like, the Indiana Jones and. And it's like, I guess maybe it was some kind of family friend or favor.

[Will Friedle]

It was considered one of the biggest, like, one of the worst movies of all time. And it's not. It's really, really good. It's.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's.

[Will Friedle]

What's his name from Shawshank Redemption.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's.

[Will Friedle]

Tim Robbins is one of the stars. Tim Robbins and Leah Thompson.

[Elisa Donovan]

It is Leah Thompson.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

She's like the. The love interest for the duck.

[Will Friedle]

Love interest who. She falls in love with the duck. She has sex with a duck.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, she's a human in it. She's not a duck?

[Will Friedle]

No, she's.

[Elisa Donovan]

Does she actually have sex with a duck?

[Will Friedle]

I just remember at the end, there is.

[Danielle Fishel]

I just remember.

[Elisa Donovan]

That's how I learned what a condom was. Yeah. I was like, why does he have that in his wallet? My mom's like, well, okay, here we go. You heard about duck penises? Like, that would be a.

[Ryder Strong]

You heard about duck penises?

[Elisa Donovan]

You know about duck penises?

[Danielle Fishel]

No.

[Ryder Strong]

Why would we know about duck penises?

[Elisa Donovan]

Duck penises are all, like, corkscrew crazy shapes. It's like, it's. It's a really interesting.

[Will Friedle]

Everybody's penis like that.

[Elisa Donovan]

Sure.

[Will Friedle]

Well, did somebody tell me something they shouldn't know?

[Elisa Donovan]

Google duck penises. And it is a labyrinth.

[Ryder Strong]

And why did you know about this?

[Elisa Donovan]

I think a Radio Lab episode.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Duckpenis.com.

[Elisa Donovan]

Sponsor. I've been traumatized ever since I saw Howard the Duck. And I've been dealing with it, trying to figure out what that comes.

[Will Friedle]

You should seriously watch it. Do not think it's a kids film. Do not watch it with a kid.

[Ryder Strong]

Don't watch it. I would have. I totally thought I was buying a family friendly hat.

[Will Friedle]

You start on a world that is earth in the 80s, but it's all ducks.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay?

[Will Friedle]

Like, there he's. He's smoking a cigar. He's reading Play Duck. So he, like, opens it up and there's like a naked duck.

[Elisa Donovan]

I learned so much from this movie.

[Will Friedle]

Seriously. And it was.

[Elisa Donovan]

I was way too young.

[Will Friedle]

And then he gets shot here and he gets picked up by Leah Thompson, who's the lead singer of an upand cominging like punk girls, punk band. And he. It's through shenanigans. You should see Happened Howard Duck. It's one of the most famous films ever. Yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

They also had that inner space, which I recently watched. Inner Space, Great movie. Another like bonkers movie. It was like they were both of that era of just like everybody was on cocaine. So like it was like, well, the movie could also be this and the movie could also be this and the movie. And it's like by the end you're like, what was the inner space Starts with like the greatest concept ever, which is brilliant scientists are trying to inject a rabbit with a little mini human who's going to like go through the rabbit system to like, you know, for medical science and accidentally gets injected into Martin Short as a checkout guy and like, okay, so it's just he's stuck inside a human being. He's got to figure his way. But no, then there's suddenly miniaturized people chasing them around. There's a whole international espionage. It's so absurd. So the dangers of doing cocaine in the 80s and making movies, it was marvelous. The life lesson.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Let's talk about the dangers of doing a podcast on cocaine. I'm Daniel. Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fishel.

[Elisa Donovan]

I'm Ryder Strong.

[Will Friedle]

And I'm Wilford O. No, I'm kidding. We're not on cocaine.

[Ryder Strong]

It's nine o' clock in the morning. Yeah, you're right. That's why we're not on cocaine.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly.

[Ryder Strong]

That's why it's the time. That's exactly right. What do you think of when you hear Amazon prime delivery trucks outside your home?

[Elisa Donovan]

Your favorite streaming shows, of course, but.

[Ryder Strong]

There is so much more. Whatever you love, that's what prime is.

[Will Friedle]

Prime helps you get more out of whatever passions you're into and it helps you discover new ones.

[Ryder Strong]

Just today I bought a new makeup remover for my brushes and a few collagen masks that I sleep in. And Amazon prime is perfect for my never ending obsession with beauty products. Not only do I get what I need incredibly fast, I can find myself going down a rabbit hole for all new items I didn't even know existed. Nail brightening treatment? Yes, please. Green tea clay mask? Yes. Add it to the haul.

[Elisa Donovan]

And the fact that Amazon prime also puts hundreds of movies and TV shows right at your fingertips.

[Will Friedle]

It's more than just same day delivery. It's a place to explore your passions.

[Ryder Strong]

From streaming to shopping. It's on Prime.

[Will Friedle]

Visit Amazon.comprime to get more out of whatever you're into.

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And if you don't have yours yet, you'll find it on ebay.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Elisa Donovan]

Ebay is where you'll find those. One of a kind. Can't stop researching. Stay up dreaming about pieces again and again.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm talking that mew mew off the Runway. Red leather bomber, the Cousteau Barcelona top.

[Will Friedle]

With the cowboy on it, or that.

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[Will Friedle]

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They even offer millions of main character pieces backed by authenticity guarantee.

[Elisa Donovan]

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[Ryder Strong]

Well, while here in San Francisco for a POD Meets World Live show, we expected a hot audience filled with 90s aficionados well versed in our podcast and our TV show from 30 plus years ago. But what we weren't expecting was to also record a new episode with an actor who just might be the most sneaky legend of the era involved in project after project that helped define the decade. You most likely first saw her in the groundbreaking comedy Clueless alongside Alicia Silverstone, Brittany Murphy, Paul Rudd and iconic outfits that have since withstood the test of time. Unlike, say, the four layers of T shirts and Morgan footy pajamas you saw on Boy Meets Wall.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, she was 15.

[Ryder Strong]

Or you may know her from Sabrina the Teenage Witch, playing a roommate of the witch herself for seasons five through seven alongside Melissa Joan Hart, Soleil Moon Fry and a talking cat. Or you know her from Blossom Night at The Roxbury Beverly Hills 90210, the NSync video for thinking of you. If you were putting together a time capsule for the 90s, well, you just might want to throw this woman in with sufficient food and water.

[Elisa Donovan]

I was gonna say that kind of stuff.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, you'd be fine. We would keep you alive.

[Ryder Strong]

We are talking to the real San Francisco treat. Ready to talk about all these decade defining projects, please. Welcome to Pod Meets World. Elisa Donovan.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yay, capsule. My goodness.

[Ryder Strong]

You had to clear your first because we made you sit here silently for so long.

[Danielle Fishel]

So first of all, I feel like I really need to say a lot of things.

[Elisa Donovan]

What are your thoughts on Howard?

[Danielle Fishel]

Never saw it and now I. But I do remember being really disturbing and that's why I didn't watch it. But hold on, I. If you think that I am not going to take. What was the legend.

[Ryder Strong]

Sneaky legend of the decade.

[Danielle Fishel]

If you think I'm not going to put that on the back of my car, you better make some. You are definitely on. You better not do it.

[Elisa Donovan]

What was the license plate for? Sneaky Legend.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love it.

[Ryder Strong]

S N K Y LG Sneaky Legend.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm going with it.

[Ryder Strong]

Listen, make a T shirt, put your face on it. We'll do it for you.

[Danielle Fishel]

We'll send it to you. Please, please.

[Ryder Strong]

Thank you so much for being here.

[Danielle Fishel]

With us to see all of you.

[Ryder Strong]

You are officially our first road trip guest. Oh, we've never on the road for Pod Meets World. We've never.

[Elisa Donovan]

Guess that's true. We've had guests on stage, but we've never recorded an episode. Yeah, correct.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm an innovator, you know. Yeah. Sneaky Legends. That is what we do.

[Elisa Donovan]

You're a San Francisco Disruptor. So you live up here in the city or.

[Danielle Fishel]

I do, yes.

[Elisa Donovan]

How long you been up here?

[Danielle Fishel]

A lot of years. 13. So my daughter. No, 14. My daughter's 13. So I moved up here when my now husband and I met. I was living in la. We went back and forth for like a year and a half. He lived here and.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So 14 years.

[Ryder Strong]

Wow.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's crazy because I was, you know, LA is the longest I've lived anywhere. Yeah, 24ish years or something. And I just felt like nothing is even like. Like longer than I lived in New York where I grew up. And now I'm saying, oh, 14 is also quite extensive. That's a long time.

[Ryder Strong]

What's it like being an actor up here in San Francisco? Are you?

[Danielle Fishel]

It's like I'm not an actor here, really. And then I go to LA or wherever. I worked in Kentucky and Alabama this year, so. So it was really nice, actually. I feel like this is sort of, you know, I get to be my. A family person. You know, I get to have my, my normal life and do Some things work related. I shot something here once. I was like, oh, this is so nice. I can just like, get up and.

[Ryder Strong]

Go down the street.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, but that's. That's.

[Elisa Donovan]

You probably have a lot of friends who aren't in the industry.

[Danielle Fishel]

None of my friends are in the industry. So I will say, when I first moved here, I was like, this is heavenly. Tell me about your job in tech.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, you work in banking. Tell me about that bank.

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, I was, like, fascinated that everybody. And after a few years, I'm like, God, you people are really boring. Do any of you have personalities? Do any of you. Have you created anything? You know, so it really does. I totally identify and I. With that feeling of just needing to be out of that. And now I'm like, where are my weird people? Like, where are my creative people?

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

And we have an amazing community. Like, I. We have wonderful friends, you know, but it's definitely.

[Elisa Donovan]

They're just really boring, awful, boring people.

[Will Friedle]

I get it.

[Ryder Strong]

We have had quite a few guests on the show who've had amazing first jobs, but I'm not sure anyone is able to top having Clueless as their first job. Do you remember your audition?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, I definitely do. Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

What was it like?

[Danielle Fishel]

So my very first job was Blossom.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, okay. That was your very first.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. And I had just moved from New York and they hired me for one episode and I played Joey's girlfriend, but we had great chemistry. So then they wrote me back into the. Exactly. Very good.

[Will Friedle]

Thank you.

[Danielle Fishel]

And that was my first experience of, you know, people being absolutely over the moon over someone. Like the fans of that show of Joey. It was like, craziness.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Danielle Fishel]

And so they. We had great chemistry. So they wrote me back into the show, and then I auditioned for Clueless, and then I had to not go back to Blossom, but. Which I felt like this stuff never happens and, you know. Anyway, so the audition, I do remember, you know, I had a first read for Marcia Ross in her office in the Valley.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

And then I read again for Marcia, and I think Twink maybe, you know, it was the thing I went. I read so many times and. Which was good in the sense of, you know, you become more familiar and comfortable with the material. But then the Closer, the final audition, was in Scott Rudin's office at Paramount. And it was the first time I had been on that lot. And that lot is really like, you know, old Hollywood and super kind of specialty. And I was petrified. I mean, I remember what I was wearing, and I went into his office and it was Amy and Twink and Scott and he's very scary. Really? In my memory it was like a very dark office, which I'm sure is not true.

[Ryder Strong]

Flashlight under their face.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly. Like, I'm fairly certain that is an inaccurate memory, but. And he was very intimidating. And Amy and Twink were so sweet. They're the most like, Amy is so disarmingly approachable, like. And normal. She's like a normal in the best way in terms of, you know, she's a human being that she's incredibly smart and she has no right to be.

[Will Friedle]

That normal with how talented she is.

[Ryder Strong]

Correct.

[Will Friedle]

Because it's. She's so talented that it's like.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

I remember reading that script and it was. It was one of those things where it was whispered around town. It was like everybody who knew that project knew it was going to be huge, but kept it tight lipped.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So I remember getting the script and being like, I just want to read for the something in this because this.

[Elisa Donovan]

Is going to be.

[Will Friedle]

No, I never sent it to me, but I don't. I think they sent it to me for Alicia Silverstone's boyfriend. The one who turned out to be gay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

And I was too young or something like that. And they. So I didn't.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, you were still happy.

[Will Friedle]

I think I still have it because I remember thinking like, I remember I.

[Danielle Fishel]

Was in college at the time and I had just read, I mean, 19th century English novel major. Like that was like one of my main focuses. So Emma. I was like a huge Jane Austen fan. So when I read it, I'm one of the only people that was like, I feel like this is based on Emma, you know, And I was like reading all these books in my trailer and everyone else is like, no one else was doing that.

[Ryder Strong]

You did a real deep character dive.

[Danielle Fishel]

I did a very deep character dive. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

That's cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

So, okay, I have a question about what? Because you said you remember what you were wearing. Did you wear this? Do you guys remember the story that you should always wear the same outfit as like your first audition.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Did you. Were you wearing the same outdid every time?

[Ryder Strong]

Every time. Because if you go in for your first audition and they like you, you assume, well, they liked everything about it. So you wear the same outfit again unless they tell you to change.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't know.

[Elisa Donovan]

If you get a call back. Do you also self tape in the same outfit?

[Will Friedle]

I have no idea.

[Ryder Strong]

I always remember thinking, knowing that that's what I was Supposed to do. And yet feeling the need to explain. Like, I wore this because I was told to wear other clothes. I have other clothes like in my head thinking they're going to think, lady, change your clothes.

[Will Friedle]

I need this job. This is my only outfit. Yes. This is all I've got.

[Danielle Fishel]

I really washing this in between.

[Ryder Strong]

So what was your outfit?

[Danielle Fishel]

It was Betsy Johnson.

[Ryder Strong]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

A black like silk sort of cap sleeved top that was very fitted and a skirt that had some kind of a print. It was like one of her. It had like people on it or something and it was black. It was so cute.

[Ryder Strong]

It was colorful and full of personality.

[Danielle Fishel]

I can't remember why shoes. I was.

[Elisa Donovan]

Super important.

[Will Friedle]

It's really nice that you went patriotic for your audition.

[Danielle Fishel]

Very patriotic.

[Elisa Donovan]

That's great.

[Danielle Fishel]

Nothing if not a patriot. I don't remember the shoes, so I don't know what shoes I was wearing.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, Clueless turns 30 this year and as everyone knows, you play Amber, Cher's over the top valley girlfriend. But being from New York, how did you nail Valley Girl so well?

[Danielle Fishel]

So I based that character on girls that I went to junior high and high school with who were not very nice to me.

[Ryder Strong]

Right. Girls, girls.

[Danielle Fishel]

The best feeling in the world, the best revenge in the world. But I, I don't know, I was like super geeky and into like research. So I, you know, drove around Beverly Hills in my broken down car that I prayed every day I would get to where I was going, you know, And I said, okay, this is Amber's house. Like this is what, you know, where she would live. And I just sort of like would walk around there and kind of listen to people and talk to people and try to really like own it. But I do think there is a, you know, one of the reasons that, that the film has stood the test of time is that it's, it's so specific to that group of people in that specific place. But within that is the universal. Right. Like these relationships and dynamics in high school, they don't really change that much. And so you can kind of put it into any other environment and kind of tweak the, the details. But the relationships, you know, are pretty, pretty standard.

[Elisa Donovan]

I remember like, I mean we used to do Valley Girl talk on the playground. Like it was like it was a trope.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

Do you know what I mean? It was like that was like a.

[Danielle Fishel]

Character like the Zappa.

[Elisa Donovan]

Like, well, I mean, think about, I mean, Fast Times really sort of, sort of made it popular. But like there were a lot of movies, TV Show. Yeah. Everybody talk like that. And I remember having that realization, like, when. I don't know, 10, 15 years ago, the way to sort of, like, diminish young women was to talk about vocal fry.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

And it's like, oh, right. Like, we have these, like, consistent ways of, like, undermining the way, like, vapid girls talk. And it's like we find whatever that vocal tick is, and it becomes popular to make fun of or, like, do as a character. It was.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It's not just diminish young girls with stuff like that. It's also talk about women's tone. It's policing women based on voice and. And how. How you present and how you screeching.

[Danielle Fishel]

A little bit right now.

[Ryder Strong]

It's a little strident a little bit.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly. I don't know. She just.

[Ryder Strong]

She just talks a lot. She just. She's never bossy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just hits the ear, frankly. I have to.

[Ryder Strong]

I have to turn it off when she starts talking.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my God.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, all of you had such great chemistry. Were you just paired up on the first day of shooting, or did you get to hang out before?

[Danielle Fishel]

So some people had tests with each other before. They were chemistry reads. Chemistry reads. But. But I think for Amber, because she was never, like. She just is sort of on her own tear. So I met everybody at the hair and makeup test, which we. I mean, I can't remember exactly, but I feel like all contracts were signed. Like, it was done, done, done. But that was when I met everybody, and that was also when they. I had, like, long hair.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Sort of like. I mean, no one has as gorgeous of hair as you, but, like, that, like, full long hair. And they cut this. That severe, short bang and gave me a bob on that day. And I. You know, Nina Paskowitz, who is amazing. She's incredible. Like, every department on that film was, like, magical. Top notch, where I felt like, oh, this is what it is to make movies. So great. Women run everything. They hire all the right people. Everybody's nice. Everyone's excellent at their job, you know? Right. But she. Nina was the key hairdresser. She was like, are you game for this? And I said, yeah, definitely. And they just hacked it. And I went into my agent's office afterwards, and they were like, can we help you? Like, who's. You know? And I was like, hi. And they went, oh, my God.

[Ryder Strong]

Did they show you a photo before to say, like, this is what we're gonna do?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. She. Well, she said, I want to do a really heavy bang. And then just, you know, so that she was different. It was, it was. But it also just helped. This was like why it was so magical. Also, every piece helped the character. Right. The wardrobe is a part of it. It's like, it's a gift for an actor.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

You get all that stuff. It just helps to inform also what.

[Ryder Strong]

A fun change that you probably never.

[Danielle Fishel]

Would have tried yourself.

[Ryder Strong]

You never would have like been like, you know what I should do?

[Danielle Fishel]

But like now you get to, it was amazing. And then it made everything more versatile. You could do, you could put pieces in my hair, you could do all sorts of other things that they wound up, you know, doing that is, it was really fun.

[Ryder Strong]

That is just so cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

What do you think of when you hear Amazon prime delivery trucks outside your home?

[Elisa Donovan]

Your favorite streaming shows, of course, but.

[Ryder Strong]

There is so much more. Whatever you love, that's what prime is.

[Will Friedle]

Prime helps you get more out of whatever passions you're into and it helps you discover new ones.

[Ryder Strong]

Just today I bought a new makeup remover for my brushes and a few collagen masks that I sleep in. And Amazon prime is perfect for my never ending obsession with beauty products. Not only do I get what I need incredibly fast, I can find myself going down a rabbit hole for all new items I didn't even know existed. Nail brightening treatment? Yes please. Green tea clay mask? Yes. Add it to the haul.

[Elisa Donovan]

And the fact that Amazon prime also puts hundreds of movies and TV shows right at your fingertips.

[Will Friedle]

It's more than just same day delivery. It's a place to explore your passions.

[Ryder Strong]

From streaming to shopping. It's on Prime.

[Will Friedle]

Visit Amazon.comprime to get more out of whatever you're into.

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Elisa Donovan]

Barbecues.

[Will Friedle]

Sunny days by the pool with my shirt on.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Elisa Donovan]

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[Ryder Strong]

Well, we had one. One guest star. Co star in common with the late, great Brittany Murphy. She was on two episodes of Boy Meets World.

[Danielle Fishel]

She was, yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

She played Topanga's best friend, Trini.

[Elisa Donovan]

Right after you guys filmed. Filmed, I think.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Elisa Donovan]

The next.

[Will Friedle]

I don't think it even Clueless had even come out.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

Did you guys shoot over the summer or the spring or.

[Danielle Fishel]

We shot. I believe we shot from November to, like, February. Okay.

[Elisa Donovan]

So it would have been the next. Yeah, the next fall was our beginning of our second season. She came and did two. It was only two. Yeah, she did three.

[Will Friedle]

She did two.

[Ryder Strong]

I think she did too.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. Geez, she was so cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

She was.

[Elisa Donovan]

She and her mom on the set.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's really like, I get emotional thinking about her because, you know, we've done. So Alicia and I are like. Everybody's like, how does it feel for the 30th anniversary? We're like, well, sort of like the 11th and then the 14th and then the 23rd and everybody kind of. Although it does feel different this year. But every time I just, you know, she should be doing these things. She should be here. You know, it's really hard and really odd and. Because, you know, especially for me, because I feel like I have filled this spot that should be hers in doing a lot of the press. Like, I am asked to speak a lot more than perhaps I would be. I mean, I don't know if that's true or not, but that's how I feel.

[Ryder Strong]

Your mind.

[Danielle Fishel]

I just like, she was so special, and so she had this way of making you feel like. Like she was elated to see you every time. She really was, like, so talented. And it just, like, it breaks my heart. I wish that she was taken care of better. Yeah, that's what I think.

[Will Friedle]

Definitely.

[Danielle Fishel]

I could talk about this for a long time, and I won't. But, yeah, I feel like there's a lot to be learned there, and I just wish that she had, you know, better people looking after her.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, it comes up in our. In our conversations a lot with people. Just the idea of, like, who is protecting you? You know, and. And for so many people.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. For. Because you all were so. I mean, I'm sure You talked about this forever, but you guys were so young.

[Elisa Donovan]

Yeah. And you were older than you were.

[Danielle Fishel]

I was older. I was 22. When we were 21. She was. She was the youngest of all of us. I feel. I want to say she was 16. Yeah. But something. Something around that.

[Elisa Donovan]

Because her mom was still on set when she came.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

She and her mom were really close, though. I think even if she might have, she still would have reminded me.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, I think so.

[Ryder Strong]

Definitely.

[Will Friedle]

They were just so.

[Ryder Strong]

They were in a loving way. Codependent. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Codependent.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

They were inseparable.

[Will Friedle]

Wait, I have. Okay. So Clueless is also famous for having a pretty big, I guess, split in the audience, kind of the controversy of how did you feel about Alicia Silverstone's character ending up with essentially her sister?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, her brother. Yeah. Because it does.

[Will Friedle]

It's. What's the oddity? You see, some people are. It didn't bother me at all where I saw it the first time.

[Elisa Donovan]

I was like, that's her brother. What's happening?

[Danielle Fishel]

So I. At the time, I didn't really. I didn't. I didn't think anything of it. Okay. And then over time, I went, oh, that is a little strange. And then some people went crazy. And then Amy just was asked this. When we were at the Academy, we had. There was a screening, and she was like, it doesn't matter. Like, what are they talking about? Who cares? It's not really. They didn't live together. Like, come on.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, she was just like, move on. I'm like, all right. I love that. I love that.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, similar to Boy Meets World, a lot of our generation have an incredibly close connection to Clueless. And you appeared at 90s con recently with Alicia. What do you think has kept this movie so relevant in pop culture over the years?

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, it's sure similarly. Similarly to you all. It's like you can't. You sort of can't talk about how it is to, like, you don't, you know, nothing else.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's like it's a part of your life. There's no way. It's just embedded in your life. When I try to think about why, I just think it's one of these things where it's beautifully crafted, it's incredibly well written, it's perfectly cast. Every department was operating at the highest level. And I think it's really. It's good spirited like these as. There's something that is so warm and light about it, that. And it's approachable, and I just Think. And it's nice to look at, you know, it's kind of all of the things.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

But I do think it's kind of what I said before, that it's so. The relationship, it's timeless. And the relationships and that period of life in high school, it's so hard, you know, it's just not an easy time. And I think the fact that there are so. There were so many groundbreaking things in that. A black and a white woman in the leads of a film. Same socioeconomic backgrounds, totally equal. Oh, you have a gay friend also.

[Ryder Strong]

Great. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, somebody's a drug addict. He's gonna get sober. Great.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, like all of these things.

[Will Friedle]

Like divorce, there was everything. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Step brother law.

[Will Friedle]

Implied incest.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

No, but it's also. It's one of those things where it. It's one of those films that also perfectly encapsulates its decade. So, I mean, it just.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

The clueless represents the 90s, like Breakfast Club or Fast Times represents the 80s.

[Danielle Fishel]

That just like, makes me so happy.

[Will Friedle]

There are, though, there's films that it's like, oh, what was the decade? Like, put in this one movie?

[Ryder Strong]

And it's like, that's the decade.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

And so that was what. That's one of the things that Amy Heckerling did so well is that she was kind of so of the time. Wherever she was so present in the moment, she was. That she was like, I can write something that will show this entire decade in 90 minutes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep.

[Will Friedle]

And that's what Clueless seems to be for the 90s. It's just like, this is it. Here's. Here's the 90s.

[Elisa Donovan]

I love that it's actually more layered than like the Breakfast Club. I think that. I think it's way more self conscious about it.

[Will Friedle]

I don't think it's more layered than Fast Times, though. I think Fast Times and Clueless are more. Are kind of on par with each other.

[Elisa Donovan]

With the different. Exactly. But I feel like they're able to capture the time while also be somewhat like out of it and, like, commenting on it in a way that, like, I feel like he was writing in it. Like he was like, this is the way teenagers are. And like, those movies are sort of more actually of the time. Whereas I feel like Clueless is so smart. I mean, it's so layered.

[Danielle Fishel]

I never.

[Elisa Donovan]

But then also comments on the thing.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So it has like.

[Elisa Donovan]

Yeah, yeah. I think it's so smart. It makes it.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Elisa Donovan]

It elevates it. I think from.

[Danielle Fishel]

I never thought about it that way with. I think that's exactly right.

[Will Friedle]

It's true.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. That's like, that's what.

[Will Friedle]

When it comes from Jane Austen, it's coming from some of the. The best source material it's ever been.

[Elisa Donovan]

That's why it's so brilliant to do that, Right? Like genius, right?

[Will Friedle]

Yes, absolutely.

[Elisa Donovan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Truly amazing. I mean, those are. Those are iconic literary characters that. They're timeless. I mean, truly time. But then to take it and wrap it in a decade like the 90s is just.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just.

[Will Friedle]

It's smart, brilliant.

[Ryder Strong]

You mentioned it was a movie that's good looking to watch. So I want to. I mean, obviously the wardrobe, the hair, the makeup, but also you have yourself, Alicia, Brittany, Stacey Dash, Paul Rudd, Donald Faison, Brecken Meyer, Jeremy Sisto. A very good looking young cast. Did any romantic sparks fly on the set?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, I mean, not that I'm aware of.

[Ryder Strong]

Okay. Not that you know, of.

[Danielle Fishel]

I was, like, so nervous the whole time. I think that Alicia had a boyfriend. Okay. Who was older. I forget his name. We should all. We should all forget him, I think. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It's good that we don't remember his name.

[Danielle Fishel]

He doesn't need to be mentioned. Stacy might have been married at the time.

[Ryder Strong]

Maybe.

[Danielle Fishel]

I can't remember.

[Will Friedle]

She was the oldest in the cast, right?

[Elisa Donovan]

She was the youngest.

[Ryder Strong]

She was the oldest.

[Will Friedle]

Britney was the youngest.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. And Britney was the youngest. And Donald. Oh, gosh, I love Donald. You know, he's like everyone's favorite person. He. We had so much fun. So. I don't. I don't.

[Ryder Strong]

Not that I know. Okay. Not that you know. All right, well, so much of the fashion in the movie has taken on a life of its own, even decades later. What was it like being fitted for all of that stuff?

[Danielle Fishel]

It was. Is there more to your question?

[Ryder Strong]

No, I want to interrupt. Did it feel special, even in the moment?

[Danielle Fishel]

It was extensive. You know, I don't know how you guys feel, but wardrobe fittings are, like, my worst nightmare. But that was my first experience of a long. And I went, oh, this is. This is actually meaningful. Like, it was super fun because it was so creative. And it was always like, again, such a part of the character. So even though they were really lengthy, it was like creating the character and this thing of, like, Amber cares deeply about everything, so every little detail matters. And, you know, I'd even be like, running to set and they'd be like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like, take this and stick it in your hair or put this in your shoe. You know, like, something that was always, always adding to it, and we would just laugh. Like, it was. It was so fun.

[Will Friedle]

Well, the fashion was one of the characters.

[Danielle Fishel]

Definitely. Definitely amazing. Yeah. And each character had kind of their specific flair, you know? And Amber, we would always say, was the one that, you know, would fly to fashion week on the weekend and then bring it back to English class. But, like, add a little more to it, you know, she was not, like, less is more. She's like, more is more is better than more.

[Will Friedle]

But it's even the little things that.

[Danielle Fishel]

That.

[Will Friedle]

That were written in, like, the father just saying, where's my collarless shirt from Fred Seagull. You just need that one line to know that he was fashion conscious too.

[Elisa Donovan]

That's all you need.

[Will Friedle]

It's like, that's where it came from. You just needed that one line, and you knew that he was all about clothes, too. It was in the family. It was so cool. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, then shortly after, you would become a part of the TGIF family with the Clueless TV show.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's right. Oh, my gosh. I almost forgot.

[Ryder Strong]

Did we ever cross paths doing promos?

[Danielle Fishel]

I. We must have, right?

[Elisa Donovan]

I came to set at some point. I forget why. I don't know who I was. Sabrina said, no, Clueless, like, because I remember. I don't know who was there. Like, for some reason, I remember walking around.

[Ryder Strong]

I feel like.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's right.

[Elisa Donovan]

And, like, seeing you guys, like, you had. Because you had, like, a hallway or what. I. I don't know why I was there. I must have been with you or somebody else.

[Will Friedle]

I didn't go.

[Elisa Donovan]

But I remember being like, oh, this is Clueless, like the movie. And we're on the show, and I wonder if this is gonna be any good. Is that what it was?

[Will Friedle]

That's what it was. We did promos.

[Danielle Fishel]

That show was like, I think about this. Melissa and I laugh about this. Or I told her, and then she was laughing that we. You know, the first season, it was like we were on the side of a bus. You know, there's Melissa, and then we. The three of us. Us three girls, like. Or were there three of us? Yes. So Stacy, Rachel, and I on the side of the bus, like, our big heads, you know, and we were thinking, oh, here's a show about, like, the talking cat. What a joke. Come on, guys. You know, and then. Then Sabrina becomes a huge hit, and Clueless is like, oh, I can't quite find its legs. You know, like, we were picked up for the whole season, which was Unheard of at the time, before we even started. 22 episodes. And then they were like. The network was very quickly, like, was this a mistake? Like, should we. You know, and then we wind up going to the other. Not the upn. Upn, yeah. And then the wb. No, upn, I think.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

And then Sabrina went to the wb. I forget now, but. So we wound up only doing one season on abc.

[Ryder Strong]

On abc. Right.

[Will Friedle]

Which is what would have been a TGIF show. It was a little too old.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know that was the thing. And yeah, you needed to play magic.

[Elisa Donovan]

And it's not time travel.

[Ryder Strong]

But the show did run for three seasons.

[Danielle Fishel]

It did, yes.

[Ryder Strong]

As a group of actors who tried to recreate some magic on tv. Did it ever feel the same or did it feel different for you guys?

[Danielle Fishel]

So I think it felt different for sure. But for me and for my character, she was so much. She was such a bigger part of this show. So it was really fun for me because I got to really work with everybody, you know, and then they put. They would. They'd sort of write these capers for Donald and Sean and I and where they were sort of like Amber's lackeys, you know, we would like go on these adventures. I would make them do things. And it was just really fun in that regard. So we did a bunch of episodes that I loved. We did like a. The Tarantino movie.

[Will Friedle]

Pulp Fiction.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. We did a. Like a sort of version of that. That was hilarious and so many really funny things. But we kind of. When I went to upn, it was better in the sense of we had more freedom and it could be a little bit older, but, you know, it just didn't really find its place.

[Ryder Strong]

But that one season of Clueless on ABC was not your only foray into the TGIF lineup because our listeners will also know you as Morgan Cavanagh on seasons five through seven of Sabrina the Teenage Witch. What was it like joining a show that was already set in its little successful routine?

[Danielle Fishel]

That was bizarre because we also. My fifth episode was their 100th episode. So there was all of this, like a big. They're like, how does it feel to be a hundred? You know, I was like, wow, it feels like five, you know, and so it was bizarre. Like you're just stepping into something that's already a well oiled machine. But they also were, you know, at a certain point you. They. It's hard because you have to grow up, right? Like, you guys know, and then it's like, what do you do with that so bringing her into college and Melissa is like just, she's such a pro and she's so sorry.

[Ryder Strong]

They're.

[Danielle Fishel]

Sorry.

[Will Friedle]

It's my 13 year old girlfriend.

[Danielle Fishel]

So, you know, she's so easy, like a total pro and a super easy person to work with. So it was really, it was very fun.

[Ryder Strong]

And Season 5 also added Soleil Moonfry, a former Pod meets World guest as well.

[Danielle Fishel]

Love it.

[Ryder Strong]

So there you are playing a roommate of Melissa and Punky Brewster.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's kind of a tall TV show. I know. It is, right? When I think about this stuff, I think, oh, wow. I guess. Yeah. I sort of did have done like a lot of things with people who have stood the test of time.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, you're a sneaky legend.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm a sneaky legend. Bring it back.

[Ryder Strong]

You know, Sneaky Legends, kind of how we feel.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's my show. Amy Sugarman. That's it. She's a Troma. That's what it is. Sneaky legend. Legend. It's done. I love it.

[Ryder Strong]

We also had Nate Richard on the show recently and he had such an odd trajectory on the show. Returning to the show in Season 6 after being left out of the retooling. And he went from dating Sabrina to dating you. Do you remember any of that dating transition?

[Danielle Fishel]

I remember. No. Except that my. This is also a sort of thing that seems to happen with a lot of my characters. I date everyone.

[Ryder Strong]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like a 90210 it was the same thing. Like I slept with Jason. I slept. Brian. I was like hitting on Ian. You know, Ian. And so the same Morgan. I dated David Lasher's character. Okay. And then I dated Harvey. And then one of like Hanson came to the. Remember Hansen? Of course. And you have to remember I was older than all these people, like always playing younger. So I was a little bit like, this is uncomfortable. You know, like, I don't want to do that. Sure.

[Elisa Donovan]

See your id.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, let's. All right. Let's just do this quickly.

[Ryder Strong]

You know, like I. I'm telling you, hearing her say that is exactly why my mom didn't Let me watch 90210.

[Will Friedle]

Really great show.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

It's the only show that she mentioned where she was like, yeah, you know, okay, I made out with Harvey, made out with other guy. And then on 90210 I was like sleeping with Jason. Sleep.

[Danielle Fishel]

The very first shot of me in that show is the opening of the season and I like roll over in bed with Jason. And like that. That character was. Was. Whoa. Was Wild. She really. Yeah, she had a good time.

[Will Friedle]

Did you. Were you on Melrose Place at all?

[Danielle Fishel]

No.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. I'm just curious if they just started.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. Just keep going. I also stole things as that character. I like. I think I feel I stole people's Rolex and some other things. I smoked pot, but you couldn't. Like, you couldn't show it. So, like, I had. Was holding a joint over here, but you couldn't put it to your mouth. There were, like, all these.

[Ryder Strong]

Right. You could just be holding it for some.

[Will Friedle]

Holding it like this.

[Danielle Fishel]

I smoke a lot of pot just like this.

[Will Friedle]

You can tell just that is not someone who's held a joy ever in their life before.

[Elisa Donovan]

Doing a J. I'm smoking a doobie.

[Danielle Fishel]

Fellow children.

[Will Friedle]

Marijuana.

[Elisa Donovan]

Marijuana. Doing the grass.

[Danielle Fishel]

Doing grass.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my gosh.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, TGIF also wasn't the only commonality we had.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Ryder Strong]

We also found our history hanging around the NSYNC guys in the late boy band 90s. You appear in the thinking of you, I drive myself crazy music video. Another fandom of the 90s she's a part of.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, how did you never do Boy Meets World?

[Will Friedle]

I'm amazing.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. I know. How did I not do Boy Meets World? I wasn't invited.

[Ryder Strong]

I know. Well, that's a missed opportunity. So how did you meet the NSync guys, and what do you share about your experiences with them.

[Danielle Fishel]

Today? I share it all. Okay, great. For many years, I did not. So they did an episode of Clueless, Right. And I feel like it was close to the end of the show. And they. Again, this is me. This is also a part of my story how anything that I sort of, like, make fun of or have something to say about, ie. Oh, the talking cat show, really? With NSync that, you know, the studio said, this is a really big deal. Like, these guys are coming out. And I was just like, right? Are you kidding me? Sure. These, like, little boys. Like, what? This, like, boy band. I was literally making fun of them before they got to set. I was like, I'm gonna request Dirty Prince songs for them to sing. Then, of course, they show up, right? They're super professional. They're really kind, incredibly talented and incredibly talented. And I was like, oh, I'm the. I'm the jerk. I am definitely the jerk. I'm putting out my joint.

[Elisa Donovan]

Let's make out on camera.

[Danielle Fishel]

My bad. Let's make out. So that's how I met them. And then we started hanging out. Like, I would Go out with them? Yep, Yep. Joey and I started dating. That was like under the, under the, under the radar. Did you turn the guy? Yes, I did.

[Will Friedle]

I'm just curious.

[Ryder Strong]

Stop trying to steal my story.

[Danielle Fishel]

But I would like. I remember and that. Oh my God. Going to see one of their concerts. I also, I was like, I was on their tour bus for a couple days. Like, what was I doing? But I, I like flew to Florida or something. I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

But we, I mean, I know we were on the bus at the same time for the, for the shoot, but did we go on tour together too? Cause I went on tour many times.

[Danielle Fishel]

You did.

[Ryder Strong]

You were so.

[Danielle Fishel]

I can't remember. I feel like you. We had a crossover maybe of like a day or two and then I like. And you left and I. Because I remember feeling like, oh, Danielle's here. This would be good. And then it was like, oh, or now it's just me. And now this feels weird. You know, it's like, I don't know if I want to be in this, but I remember going to the show and at the Staples center or some. Something in la, like one of the big forums. The forum. And I got out of, you know, Joey's like, come, you know, a couple hours early or whatever. So I get out of the car and I am swarmed as if I am one of the Beatles, you know. And they were just like, she's going in to see them, you know. And I was like, oh my God. And I went inside. I was like, this is. Is insane.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

How like that, that level of. It's just, it's wild, you know, and that age like that, like 13, 14, 15 year old girls, like there's just like.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Saw that with them.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, you also saw that with Joey, so.

[Ryder Strong]

Joey Lawrence.

[Danielle Fishel]

So I mean, really, we're there to.

[Will Friedle]

See some of the most crazy fandoms of all time. I mean, that's incredible.

[Ryder Strong]

I remember we left the, we left the Jay Leno show once. It was. And Sarah, our friend Pantera, Sarah drove me, Justin and Lance out and she had, she had a big old convertible.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, I remember.

[Ryder Strong]

And they could see, you know, they could see them just sitting in the car and literally it was. And running after the convertible and it was like crazy. I remember just looking back and being like, oh, I'm. I'm living one of those clips I've seen of what Beatlemania was like.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, how did. Do you remember going to. What was the name of that place? Had an Irish Name and it was upstairs. Dublin. Dublin, yes, Dublin. And like, D. When I think about that now, I'm like, how did we go dancing there? Just like, you know, out dancing with Justin and Chris and Joey. Like, how did we do that?

[Ryder Strong]

I know.

[Danielle Fishel]

Without. I guess outside. It was crazy.

[Ryder Strong]

We would do it all over the place. Like, there were times that I would be on tour and Justin would call and go, hey, do you guys.

[Danielle Fishel]

Guys.

[Ryder Strong]

To Lance?

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you.

[Ryder Strong]

Do you guys want to go dancing? And I. I should have thought it was odd when Lance would be like, well, I don't. But Danielle, do you want to go dancing? And then Justin and I would go dancing and then I'd be like, are.

[Danielle Fishel]

We supposed to be doing this? Wait, didn't we. Did you come to my house to watch Clue? You know, Clue is one of my favorite movies of all time. As it is Lance's as well.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, my God. It's also my husband. This is like my husband is obsessed with Clue.

[Danielle Fishel]

I. I desperately want to remake this film. I know that they're already doing it, but I don't care. I'll do it better. I need to be in this movie. But so we rent. This is back in the day of like, you know, vhs. Vhs. Thank you. And I rented it from my. I lived in Bronson county at the time at the little place down on the corner of Franklin and I. We watched it at my.

[Ryder Strong]

I thought that you were there. I may. I may have been. I have a terrible memory.

[Danielle Fishel]

And. But the thing is, then I was like, no, you guys can take it.

[Ryder Strong]

It.

[Danielle Fishel]

Because they were going to take you. They were like going back on tour and then never brought it back. And like the. The. Every time I went to the video store, they're like $150, $200. When are you bringing back? I gotta go to a different video store. Like, I just can't.

[Ryder Strong]

I've been kicked out.

[Will Friedle]

Oh my gosh. Stole it from me.

[Danielle Fishel]

What did you want me to do? My Clue. Oh, my God.

[Elisa Donovan]

It was Joey Fatone with. With the lead pipe in the.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, I don't know if you remember when. When did we shoot. When did you guys shoot the video? The music video? It must have been June or July. Yes, that sounds right, because Lance had just broken up with me.

[Will Friedle]

Were you supposed to be.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wait, but you were there.

[Ryder Strong]

I was just there. But I wasn't the girlfriend.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought you weren't in it because you didn't want to be. I thought it was too on the nose that people then would really know that you guys were dating.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, people at this point. Point he had already told people on Jay Leno we were dating. So it. I was like to be allowed. I was the first girlfriend to kind of be allowed to be talked about.

[Elisa Donovan]

They were so excited.

[Will Friedle]

Lance is dating someone.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, he's dating somebody.

[Ryder Strong]

She's a girl.

[Danielle Fishel]

She's a girl.

[Ryder Strong]

She's a girl.

[Danielle Fishel]

She's a girl.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, I promise.

[Danielle Fishel]

Super pretty.

[Ryder Strong]

And so people knew. But he had. It was like right after. After because he went to my prom and then he broke up with me, but he still invited me to the shoot, which was really hanging out with NSync.

[Danielle Fishel]

Even though you were broke, you didn't know that. That you guys did. I know that you were because I feel like we didn't we drive you home or something probably.

[Ryder Strong]

I probably cried memory. You were devastated. I was so sad. I think I also brought him our prom pictures to that shoot. Like, here's your copies of our prom pictures. Are you sure you want to do this? And so, yeah, I was like, really sad. And then so we broke up in June of.

[Danielle Fishel]

Of.

[Ryder Strong]

Of 99. June or July of 99. And that new Year's Eve, I went to Hawaii with them for.

[Danielle Fishel]

I was still confusing for a young lady.

[Ryder Strong]

But I. I had very confused. I was so close to all of them.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It was still. That's the only one.

[Elisa Donovan]

Events Inc. That you dated.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Elisa Donovan]

Of course.

[Danielle Fishel]

I do think I remember because I'm a little older than you and everyone I remember going, I. Lance doesn't. I'm unclear about what's going on here except me. Get it?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

But then I wonder, did Jo. I've never actually asked Joey this. Did he. Did. Did all the guys know and did they just agree not to say anything? Chris.

[Ryder Strong]

Or did he. Not even regularly.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, he did.

[Ryder Strong]

Chris would just flat out say, do you know that your boyfriend is gay?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh. Oh, geez. I could totally see him saying that, actually.

[Ryder Strong]

And Lance was like. And Lance would act put out by it. And I would be like, no.

[Will Friedle]

Did Lance really know by this point?

[Ryder Strong]

Lance internally did.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

But truly, Lance, I mean, it's one of the sweetest things anybody's ever said about me. But Lance was still also very much of the belief that, like, he could shake the gay away if he just met the right girl. Like, if I. If I could just be with the guy too.

[Elisa Donovan]

Right. So I think it was.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, of course.

[Ryder Strong]

And then, yeah, he said, like, truly our prom night, where it was very clear. I thought one thing was going to Happen or was really hoping something was going to happen. And he wanted to watch the Green Mile. That he realized.

[Danielle Fishel]

Very romantic movie.

[Ryder Strong]

He said if I couldn't make it work with Danielle, I really wasn't going.

[Danielle Fishel]

To be able to make it work with you.

[Ryder Strong]

And so he knew he had to break up with me.

[Danielle Fishel]

It was clear that you two had a very, very sweet.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, you had a real connection. We loved each other. That was very real.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, we still.

[Ryder Strong]

We still care about each other. Exactly. We care about each other. I have one other project of yours I need to talk to you about. I mean, we could go on and on and on forever. But I do need to ask you about Night at the Roxbury, a movie that, in my opinion, does not get the attention that it deserves. It was produced by Amy Heckerling, the director of.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

Clueless. And you pay. You play Camby. Chris Katan, girlfriend. This must have been such a moment to film.

[Danielle Fishel]

I have to say. We were shooting this series of Clueless during the day, so days. And Roxbury, we shot a lot of nights. So there was like a week there where I was 24 hours.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, my gosh.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, they picked me up from Paramount. But, you know you don't say no, right?

[Ryder Strong]

Of course.

[Danielle Fishel]

Of course I have to do this. But I was looney tunes exhausted, which then those two, Will and Chris are like, maybe two of the funniest people.

[Ryder Strong]

How do you keep us together?

[Danielle Fishel]

I could not. Well, I mean, I wish that they would show the outtakes from that film because every time it was just like, sometimes I would have to say, can you guys turn around, like, for my coverage? Like, I couldn't look at their faces because it was too much.

[Elisa Donovan]

I understand. INS.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Seriously, I'm like, no, no, just go home. Go home. We laughed so hard. I mean, I didn't. So it wasn't like the whole time, but there was like a week and a half where. Where I. Then I like, broke down. I remember breaking down crying at Paramount shooting Clueless in, like, this light scene. And I was like, are you guys just. Can we just. I just. I can't see. And the director, Linda Day. Did you guys ever work with Linda Day? She's one of the only female direct TV directors at the time. She was so dear. She was like, everybody's mom. And she was like, they're working her too hard. You need to give her a break. And I was like, well, don't give me too much of a break.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't want to be a tv.

[Elisa Donovan]

I want to do.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do the job. I can handle it. But it was so that dance scene, they wanted to give us stand ins, like dance doubles. And Gigi Rice and I, and I mean Will and Chris too, we were like, no, no, no, no way. Like, we want to do it. Yeah. Oh, so fun. It's like my dream. It was super fun.

[Elisa Donovan]

I haven't said it's the one project I haven't seen.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just watch the dance. I've never seen it. No. The rest of the movie is great. Molly Shannon is in it. Anderson.

[Will Friedle]

They're so funny, all these people. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

So you have to watch it.

[Will Friedle]

Some of those Essence SNL movies that kind of slide under the radar a little bit are some of my favorite things ever. So. Yeah, like Ladies man is one of my favorite movies of all time. So I've got to see Night at the. Okay, I'll see Night at the Roxbury. All right, cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's fun.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, I'm going to make you choose as my last question. I'm going to make you choose which.

[Will Friedle]

One of us to kill.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's going to be a tough.

[Will Friedle]

There's one bullet and you got in front of you.

[Danielle Fishel]

Tough call. Not that tough. God.

[Ryder Strong]

I better get this right. Out of all of the incredible 90s projects you were a part of, what would you say is the most fun?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, I. I feel like every project had its moments, but like, oh my gosh. I don't know. I really, I. I mean, I almost want to say the dance and the night of the Raspberry. If I could do a specific.

[Ryder Strong]

Right. If you could pick a mom.

[Danielle Fishel]

That was really fun because I love dancing. Like, I'm the person that would leave parties and pretend like I was going to bed and go salsa dancing. Like, keep salsa shoes in the trunk of my car. Like, I'm not kidding. I'd be like, I gotta go. Yeah, I gotta go. And then I get in my car, change my shoes and my clothes and go to El Floridita on. Yeah. Fountain and Vine. Yep.

[Ryder Strong]

Wow.

[Danielle Fishel]

To me, that was like marrying all the things that, you know, love. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

That's amazing.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thank you so much for being here with us. Are the best. How fun. Does everybody just want to come back all the time?

[Elisa Donovan]

Guest.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, that's not true.

[Elisa Donovan]

Everyone's screaming.

[Danielle Fishel]

To be clear, you're not welcome back.

[Ryder Strong]

You are welcome anytime. So loved having you.

[Danielle Fishel]

Always great to see you. Thank you for taking time out of.

[Ryder Strong]

Your busy schedule to be with us on A Saturday at 9am I loved it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Loved it. Thanks for coming to San Francisco anytime.

[Ryder Strong]

Anytime we can all be convinced to move.

[Danielle Fishel]

So do it. Do it.

[Ryder Strong]

Thank you all for listening to this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram Pod Meets World show. You can send us your emails pod meets worldshowmail.com and we've got merch as F merch. Pod meets worldshow.com will send us out.

[Will Friedle]

We love you all. Pod Dismissed. Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fishel, Will Friedle and Rider Strong, executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, executive in charge of production Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Sudbaksh, producer Matty Moore, engineer and Boy Meets World superfan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon and you can follow us on Instagram @pop Podmeats World show or email us at podmeatsworldshowmail.com hey parents, quick question.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Please welcome aboard the Johnson family.

[Will Friedle]

The whole fam's here for the Disney Cruise. So you know we came to play and listen. The adults are gonna have a ball. First we're chilling in the infinity pool, on to massages at Sense's Spa, then gliding into Star Wars Hyperspace Lounge for a toast. We're even gonna kick back with Mickey.

[Elisa Donovan]

On Disney's private island.

[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

This is an Iheart podcast.