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Cheekies
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Honey German
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Will Friedle
Oh yes, with the speed stripe. I love it very much.
Honey German
I literally wore it this way. This is my raincoat. I wore it this morning because it's raining here in Los Angeles.
Will Friedle
Wait, you wear it like regularly as a raincoat.
Honey German
This is my raincoat.
Will Friedle
Your H E double hockey sticks jacket is now your raincoat.
Honey German
It's been my raincoat since 1998.
Will Friedle
Wow.
Honey German
Yeah, that's what we put on. Put on the movie last night. My wife's like, that's your coat. Yeah, that's my. This is my jacket. She's like, that's. That's actually your jacket. Like, yeah, that's just my jacket.
Will Friedle
So good.
Honey German
I don't throw things out and I use everything I keep.
Will Friedle
I guess so. Wow.
Honey German
I also have the boots with the flames. I didn't put them on, but I have the flame boots still that add like a good 2 inches, which made me look 6ft tall in the movie. Yes.
Will Friedle
Very tall in this movie, Mr. Will. Very, very tall.
Honey German
Right?
Will Friedle
I loved it.
Honey German
So, yes. Welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses are smart. The wave tsunamis, and the high school's musical. I'm Will Friedle.
Will Friedle
And I'm Sabrina Bryan.
Honey German
Okay, so. So I'm taking it off because it's gonna be a thousand degrees in here. Much like where the movie takes place, by the way. Cause it is another big week here at Magical Rewind. We are taking on a movie that is very near and dear to my heart, yet almost completely removed from the Internet and the history of the dcom. It is the 1999 Wonderful World of Disney entry he double hockey sticks. Yes. Already a controversial piece of content for the Disney company, considering, well, the title's a euphemism for hell. A place that Mickey Mouse probably doesn't acknowledge an awful lot. Oh, man, it's hot. That's Mickey in hell. That's my impression right there. But actually did send us to hell if you watched she Hulk on Disney. And shockingly, this movie is based, believe it or not, on an opera called Griffelkin by Lucas Faust and Alistair Reed. Griffelkin was a three act opera first performed in 1955 at the NBC Opera Theater and it has been revived many times over the years. And who would have ever thought this devilish little Disney movie was inspired by something so high class. Yes.
Will Friedle
Yes. And you have not said this yet, Will, but the star of this movie is none other than my very own Co host, Mr. Will. I am just so excited.
Honey German
This is my movie.
Will Friedle
This is your movie. You literally end up not to do just a spoiler alert, but to kind of be the hero. And I absolutely loved it. I'm like, this was amazing, Will. So I'm glad. I have to ask you though, how did h e double copy sticks come into Your life. Did you audition or was this like a. We already got Will. Will's obviously perfect for this role.
Honey German
Yeah, no, it was. So my date with the President's Daughter on Wonderful World at Disney did really well for the channel, for. For abc because that's what they were airing it on. It was at the time, I think, the second or third highest ranked Wonderful World Disney in ever. Like, yeah, my date with the President's.
Will Friedle
Daughter did really well. I love.
Honey German
So when this one popped up, Matt Lawrence and I, who's the other star of the movie Matt and I had been already doing. We'd already done two seasons of Boy Meets World together. He came out in season five. So we had done season five and six. And in between six and seven is when we. We filmed H double Hockey Sticks. So they just came to us and said, hey, we've got this movie. Would you guys be interested? And we both jumped at the chance. We loved working with each other. We'd worked with each other for a long time and they always paired us up. So we knew we would get a chance to go to Canada and film. So, yeah, no, this was no audition for this one. This was just, hey, come do a movie.
Will Friedle
Were you a part of the audition process with the other actors? Like, no, no, not at all.
Honey German
No, not at all. It was just. It was, let's go make a movie. And that's what we did. So it was.
Will Friedle
Because that was your life. You just hacked that up. Yeah, sure. Let me see. Between the dates of June and 11th and August 14th, I'm good. I can make that happen.
Honey German
I mean, check my avails, but I think I'll be able to do this.
Will Friedle
My people talk to you back in a little bit, so please.
Honey German
The 90s were very, very good to me. That's all I have to say about the 90s. They were wonderful. They really were. And Speaking of the 90s, the movie itself aired on October 3, 1999 on ABC, which is a bit of an entry point for the channel Spooky season. And it grew, well, a quick cult audience, including my mom. This is my. This is my favorite. So my. Of all the stuff I've done in my entire career, this is my mom's favorite thing ever. She always talks about this movie. She's like, I love the one where you were the devil and all. So she was a big fan of.
Will Friedle
The original hockey thing. I actually thought about that a lot during the movie and I can see why, like, where her pride comes. You have so many awesome moments. They're so cute. They just seem so, like. Just to me, there's moments in this movie where it's. It feels like a little window into, like, how you were around the house, you know, just like that. Like, fun jibber jabber. The dance part. Like, I'm just like. There's just parts of this movie where I'm like, that's like, probably how he was as a little kid growing up. Like, just a little kid.
Honey German
It's how I still am, I think.
Will Friedle
Like, it's this big goofball. Just so fun. So I totally understood so many times this movie. Like, this is why this is Will's mom's favorite.
Honey German
Yeah, this is her favorite. And much like my date with the president's daughter, being a fan of H e double Hockey sticks has become a bit of an underground club. Mostly because, like many of the other Wonderful World of Disney entries that we cover, it is not on any streaming service. But, you know, many people when we were doing Pod meets World Live, kept talking about this movie. They'd ask questions about this movie. I mean, it came up quite a bit. Which reminds me, you can all watch HD Double Hockey sticks now free of charge on the youtubes. Do it now, do it later, do it with friends, do it alone, Whatever. Just do it. Nike.
Will Friedle
Nike. Okay. All right. So just fair warning, I'm jumping in quite a bit this episode, guys. I am doing it because there are things that need to be talked about they cannot wait for Sabrina sees. I have questions, I have comments, I have all of it. And I'm starting off with now. I don't need to ask you the question on, you know, how invested were you in when it came to wardrobe? I know the answer is zero. None. Nilch. You were never trying to create the look. Right. So I'm gonna move past the jacket with the razor race stripe.
Honey German
Got it.
Will Friedle
The rings, the many rings our friend Will wears, Those are my little choker that pops out of the second layer of clothing that he's wearing. Cause he was definitely wearing two shirts. The jeans with the fancy cuff. Those were great. The ginormous boots with the clear plaque clearly were platforms.
Honey German
Still have em.
Will Friedle
The man bag that he wore with the burning license plate, that was. And then I want to just say, we need to now talk. So all those things, I knew those were prop people. That was wardrobe. That wasn't Will. But I need to know what was up with your hair and your facial hair and if you had any choice in this. If they cause truly for me, I'm assuming I'm A part of many fans. When we think of Will, we think of his longer hair. This was a cut, a shortcut, right? So then you're going, okay, it's bleached, it's gelled, and we've got facial hair. Which I don't think. I don't remember ever seeing you with facial hair during Boy World.
Honey German
Okay, So a couple things. One, the rings are mine.
Will Friedle
Okay.
Honey German
I had. By the end of Boy Meets World, I had rings on, like, every finger. It was. That was a 90s thing. That was a fashion choice. The necklace was mine. We actually just talked about that on Pod because when it used to hang low with this little bear emblem on it and the bear broke and then I started getting heavier and heavier and it just like it was holding on for dear life by the end. And we basically had to cut it off of me because my head was going to explode because it was just. It became a real choker.
Will Friedle
Oh, my gosh.
Honey German
I remember kind of saying, well, first of all, they certainly want Matt and I to look different.
Will Friedle
Yes.
Honey German
I also knew this was going to be fun because I had a chance to look like I'd never, like, I'd never looked before. So I remember saying to them, like, can we do something crazy? Let's bleach the hair. And they're like, yeah, okay. I mean, I think we can try that. And then I was like, I'm gonna grow the goatee. And the funny thing is you can see the progression of the film that I obviously don't shave because there's times where you can barely see it. There's times where it's kind of bigger and bushier and there's times where it's just here.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Honey German
And there's time. I mean, it's like it does. It changes all the time. The goatee. So that was, that was a rough fashion choice. But yes, they, they obviously want, you know, Matt is the good looking, clean cut, athlete kid and they wanted the, you know, Griff to look different. So, yes, I thought it was great.
Will Friedle
I thought it worked. It was so perfect and it was so fun to see you. I agree. For me, it helped me move from you as, you know, just the golden boy that I saw you in. My president, the, you know, that one, my date with the president's daughter. I feel like it helped me as a viewer switch you into this role, which was totally different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you were. It was really fun and I think that those choices absolutely were awesome. So I'm glad that you, you thought of it right that it wasn't them, you know, asking. Because I, I also, it was either that or I was going to be really excited for it to be like some kind of drama of like they made me cut my hair.
Honey German
Couldn't believe I did it.
Will Friedle
I had to do it and. Oh my God. But you know, I know you're not. No, this was actually vain like that anyway.
Honey German
No. God, no. And this is so this is what kind of was the impetus for then when Boy Meets World, the seventh season of Boy Meets World starts. Eric walks in with long hair and then pulls it off. It's a wig to reveal the short hair underneath. And this is. So I had already cut it for the movie.
Will Friedle
Okay.
Honey German
So then I had actually, yeah, I cut it at the end of. I really wanted to get rid of my long hair at the end of season six. Like I just had had it for a long time. Yeah. And then I. So when I cut it in. Yeah, that's. It worked. It did it work. But anyway, let's, let's, you know, let's take it to the ice and we'll puck hog a bit. So here is the synopsis of H Double Hockey Sticks. Griffelkin is an apprentice devil studying at the Beelzebub Vocational Institute. The school principal, Ms. Beelzebub, wants to get rid of her idle student. So she sets him a task. If he can obtain the soul of hotshot hockey player Dave Heinrich, he can graduate. Okay, early thoughts. Sabrina, you gotta act like the frosted tipped boy on the screen. There is not a friend of yours and not on the other side of this zoom. You gotta be totally honest with me. What did you think of the movie?
Will Friedle
Well, at first, I want you to know I clicked out of. Took me two seconds to click out the cartoon element of the like the devilish wherever you guys were in hell that I thought I was going, wait, wait a minute, is this gonna be a cartoon? I honestly, it was so. It was really not good. Sorry.
Honey German
It was a model. I think if memory serves, it was like they built a model and then they did this miniature job.
Will Friedle
It literally looked animated. Of course, because you're also thinking this the YouTube. And I'll talk about the other part of the YouTube within my Sabrina Steez. But the YouTube that I watched was like a full blown. Someone just sat and recorded an entire thing on the channel. I saw all the interstitials and all.
Honey German
Of that commercials and everything.
Will Friedle
The quality was really, really bad. So I was like, oh, maybe it's that. But I literally clicked it out and clicked out of it and went, wait. But then your face popped back up. I'm like, no, this is it. So I kind of just jumped in, and I swear I thought I knew that I had seen this movie. And I don't know if I've just mushed everything you've done together in my br. But the more I watched it, I realized I've never seen this before.
Honey German
Oh, you hadn't? Okay.
Ashley Kinetic
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Cause I used to watch a lot of Matthew Lawrence's stuff, too, and I had never seen this before. I had convinced myself somehow that I had. And I will tell you, the intro, I thought it was so cool. We're so used to seeing a bedroom right now. We get to see this giant set that you guys are on, and you're moving and grooving through it, and I thought you were, like, the goofiest little guy. I just thought it was so funny. I'm like, who is this kid? Like, what is his deal? And then seeing you again in a different way, acting on such a bigger scale in a character, I was like, I'm gonna love this movie. And I know I'm not supposed to say it just because of you, and I don't think I would've. I think, if it had been any other actor. Just this, like. It was just you had so much energy and were carrying it so quickly in the movie that it was so fun to watch.
Honey German
Okay, good. Well, I'm glad. I thought it was good. I think. I think there was. I forgot that I'm basically in, like, every scene of the movie. That is one thing I totally forgot.
Will Friedle
That was gonna be one of my. Sabrina, did you have even a day off during this film?
Honey German
No. And this was. So sue kept asking me, like, are you. Are you okay watching this movie? Are you okay watching this movie? Because this is the movie where my panic attack started. So all my anxiety start. My first panic attack was during a scene of this movie. They used the take. So I pointed it out to Sue. I'm not gonna tell anybody else, but I pointed it out to sue, and she's like, I didn't. I wouldn't have noticed, but. So she was like, are you okay? And I'm like, no, I'm fine. Like, I had no problem watching it. Nothing whatsoever. So. But there was. There was a lot of personal stuff going on while I was shooting this movie.
Will Friedle
Okay.
Honey German
So it was more. I was like, I wonder if that's gonna color kind of how I'm seeing it. Which it didn't at all. Oh, good. I thought it started a little slow.
Will Friedle
The intro was long.
Honey German
Yeah, it was.
Will Friedle
However, I did enjoy seeing a big set like that. I did like it, and I thought it was. A lot of the stuff was very creative, but it's a very long walk to where you're going.
Honey German
It does. It was like the first half hour drags a little bit for me. Also, frankly, I love where it's like, Dave Heinrich is on a hockey team with other people that aren't very good and then goes to even worse team. These are all professional hockey players that.
Will Friedle
Were in the movie.
Honey German
No, that. I mean, they're supposed to be professional hockey players. How is there an entire team of professionals that are awful? It's like. That doesn't make any sense to me. It's like, you're a professional hockey team, but.
Will Friedle
No, but I think it's. I mean, I think there's teams that have just had terrible seasons. Right.
Honey German
No, I get it. But they're talking about. These are guys that, like, Ozone the goalie can't see.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Honey German
And the one guy is just doing the worm. They were.
Will Friedle
Which I like, but it's like.
Honey German
It's like they would have. It would have worked great if it was. If they were like, a high school team. They're like, the worst high school team. But they're all supposed to be pros. They're all supposed to be professional hockey players that are now terrible. So I was like, it's okay. I can let it go. But overall, I thought it was better than Godfather 2. Great movie. I know I said, I'm never gonna give a 10, but I don't know. This could be. I'm kidding.
Will Friedle
I do have a question about the. The. The name of the movie. Do you remember if there was any pushback on the. The title of it being H E Double Hockey six?
Honey German
Like, no, I don't. I don't.
Will Friedle
Nothing.
Honey German
I don't. I don't recall that at all. And I think, again, because it was Wonderful World of Disney and abc, you get a little bit more leeway than you do if it's a dcom.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Honey German
Yeah. So, I mean, that's, you know, a lot of the stuff. It was, you know, at one point, in a funny way. But Lawrence is being tortured. I mean, they're. She's torturing Maddie at the end. So, yeah, it. It can be a bit much. But let's get into some of the specifics. So H Double Hockey Sticks was directed by Randall Miller, an acclaimed AFI grad who directed 90s comedies like the Kid and play film class act, Sinbad's house guest and Marlon Wayans basketball movie the Sixth Man. Later in his career, Miller jumped into independent films, self funding and self producing movies like Noble Son, Bottle Shock and cbgb, all starring the great Alan Rickman. Worth noting, he is the cousin of actress Rhea Perlman who we're gonna talk about again in a second. That's how she came to be. Thank you, producer Jensen. The movie stars a young Sugar Ray impersonator named Will Friedle playing Griffelkin, star of TV show Boy Meets World. I have gone on to voice Batman, do podcasts and go unrecognized at wrestling events. I've also been called by myself in my own home the greatest actor of my generation.
Will Friedle
Oh my God, that was so good.
Honey German
My co star playing Dave Heinrich was a familiar face to not only me, but to anyone who a bought teen bop magazines in the 90s. I'm thinking Sabrina might have had this boy on her wall or b watched Boy Meets World. It is Matt Lawrence, Mr. Matthew Lawrence, a member of the storied Lawrence Hollywood family. His brother Joey was uber famous on the show Blossom and his other brother Andy is still probably one of our favorite actors in any dcom for his work in Going to the Mat. Matthew Lawrence was best known for his adorable work in the classic movies Mrs. Doubtfire. And he also did was was the little kid I always forget. But in Planes, Trains and Automobiles, he starred in the sitcom Brotherly Love with his siblings. And I also used to love to make fun of him all the time because he was on a phenomenal show called the Superhero Super Superhero Cyber Squad. Superhero Samurai squad. I love Matt.
Will Friedle
How was that working together?
Honey German
We got along right from the start. The second we met on Boy Meets World, they partnered us up, which was a strange thing to do because they brought him in as Ryder's brother, they brought him in as another hunter, and yet almost instantly partnered him up with Eric. So he and I got along, still get along to this day. He's one of my favorite people in the world. I love him. I love his family. And so we got a lot of.
Will Friedle
They booked you guys kind of as a package type situation.
Honey German
They booked us as a team. Yeah. There was also, I mean, there was rumors. Matt and I have talked about this and we can let people know he's gonna be in our Park Hopper episode. We get to talk to Matty as well. But there were a lot of rumors going around at the time that there was possibly going to be a spinoff of Boy Meets World, where it was going to be just Matt and I and then all of TGIF went away. They just, they canceled the entire night essentially. So that's why it didn't happen. Another familiar face is a young Gabrielle Union, and she plays Gabby. Gabrielle was already a veteran on the sitcom circuit as a kid, showing up on Saved by the Class, Good Behavior, Sister Sister, and seventh Heaven. But her turns in movies, like she's all that 10 things I hate about you, love and basketball turned her into a star. You might also know her from one of the best movies of all time. Bring it on. Great movie. Bad Boys 2. Sabrina knows all the Cheers still. That's awesome. Deliver us from Eva or as a judge on America's Got Talent. She's become a very big name in Hollywood, not just on camera, but as a producer behind the scenes. She was a ton of fun. We didn't work together a lot. She only had a couple scenes but was really fun to work with. Very giving actor and we got along very well.
Will Friedle
Nice.
Honey German
Canadian actress Tara Spencer Nairn, I think I'm saying her name right, plays Ann. And Sean Pyfam is her little brother Lewis. He is best known as Andrew Van de Camp on Desperate Housewives. And in the Dabney Coleman Debbie Reynolds chair, we have Rhea Pearlman as Mrs. Actually, it was Ms. I think. I'm not sure she took a, took a lover. She might have not been married Mrs. Or Ms. Beelzebub, which was a very progressive take on the character since you rarely see the woman as the devil. And as I said before, this was the director's cousin, but she was world famous for one of the greatest, arguably the greatest sitcom of all time. Pure four camera sitcom of all time, Cheers, where she played Carla Tortelli, a role where she won four Emmys and was nominated a whopping 10 times. The funny thing I didn't even realize until I was literally just reading this, the connection where Carla's husband on Cheers was played by the guy who played my dad in My Date with the President's Daughter. So you, you had the two of them.
Will Friedle
Jay.
Honey German
Jay Thomas on My Date with the President's Daughter played my dad. And then Rhea Perlman, who played Carla on Cheers played the devil in this.
Will Friedle
You were how many years old when you figured this out?
Honey German
Yeah, right.
Will Friedle
48.
Honey German
48. I was almost 50. Yes. It almost took me half a century to figure that out. But she won four Emmys as Carla and was nominated a whopping 10 times for Emmy awards. She is the real Life wife of actor Danny Devino. And you've seen him in so many, many things, including Matilda, Sunset park and Barbie. She also appeared in the movie Class act, also directed by her cousin Randall. And it's just a nice thing to put your family in movies. That'd be great. I wish all of my family were in movies.
Will Friedle
I have to ask you, because I know you've always been a big fan of her from Cheers and so many things that she's done. Were you as big of a fan back then already?
Honey German
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Okay, so what was it like when you got to work with somebody who you were such a fan of because you guys got a good amount of time together?
Honey German
We did, we did.
Will Friedle
But it was.
Honey German
I mean, she was. Couldn't have been nicer. I mean, couldn't have been a nicer person. I think at this point I was. I was trying to figure this out. I was trying to do the math. I think I'm 22, 21 or 22 when I'm shooting. I think I'm 22 when I'm shooting this. Yeah. Because I would have turned 23. And then when boy ended, I was 24. Yeah. So I think I'm 22 when I'm doing this. I think I was in my play it cool phase, you know? So it's like, if I'd met her now, I would have just been peppering her with questions about Cheers the entire time. But I think then I was kind of just playing it cool, like, oh, yeah, I get to work with Ria. We're both just actors having fun. Where, you know, now I'd be like, will you shy my cheer stuff? Yeah. So, yeah, I was. I was always a nerd, but I kept my nerdom hidden at that point. Whereas now I wouldn't care.
Will Friedle
I was in Matilda as an extra. I was one of the kids. And she came on set because Danny DeVito wasn't just in it, but he directed it and she was there. I want to say she might have been a producer on the movie or something, but she was there quite a bit. And when I tell you, you know, because again, I knew who she was. I watched Nick at Nite from a very young age. So it's funny that I watched a show that was based in a bar scene and had zero idea that it was even a bar at the point. That's just where they all hung out. That was like, just like a weird shaped restaurant, I guess is what I thought. But, you know, because I was only. I was in sixth grade she was so nice to us kids. And not every, not every director, producer, adult there, they have tolerance. And when this is a big room of kids who constantly had to tell to be quiet. She was really, really nice. And so I'm so glad.
Honey German
Super sweet.
Will Friedle
That also was when you got to work hand in hand with her, not just see her from.
Honey German
No, she was. She couldn't have been nicer. Couldn't have been. It couldn't have been nicer. The movie is, wait for it, 96 minutes long, six minutes off our target, but it's a valiant effort nonetheless. But I'm in this movie, so frankly, it's too short.
Will Friedle
Yep. It could have been six minutes longer, guys.
Honey German
Could have been a good 30 to 40 minutes longer. As we've always said, there's nothing like a movie that is two to 300 minutes long, as long as it stars a young Sugar Ray look alike. Thank you again, producer Jensen. As stated earlier, the movie is based on an opera from the 50s, but the screenplay credit went to David Kukoff and Matt Roschko, a writing team behind some other DCOMs including Mrs. Headmistress, Model Behavior and ABC Families Campus Confidential with friend of the show Christy Carlson Romano. They also produced a movie called Spring Break Lawyer, which is something I want to watch right now because this could either be a fun, wacky kind of movie or this is a skin film where, you know, it's like, hi, I'm Debbie. I'm your Spring Break lawyer. Like anything could happen. Gotta figure out what that is.
Cheekies
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Sabrina Bryan
Knows making smarter financial moves today secures your financial freedom for a second tomorrow. On my Cultura podcast network, we believe this too by sharing money management tips that help you realize your dreams. Like on our show Life as a Gringo with DJ Dramos Many of us.
DJ Dramos
Grew up in like I started the podcast earlier saying for me in my family, one of the biggest points of contention was finances. And I know as I gotten older I made it a promise to myself to say I don't want to relive that. I don't want finances to be something that stresses us out. I don't want to be living in fear of the, the shoe dropping, so to speak.
Honey German
Right.
DJ Dramos
You know, hiring somebody to do credit repair for me, that was a gift that I gave myself that allowed me to then get my first apartment, get my first car under my name, then eventually buy my own home. Like these are all things that are possible for all of us. We just have to educate ourselves and put in some of the hard work.
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Honey German
Okay everybody, why don't we pull out our red flip phones straight from the cellular service of Satan because it's time to get into the movie. We open with the festive tune Hot Hot Hot made Popular by Buster Poindexter. And we're right outside of the Beelzebub Vocational Institute now. Here, it's a computer generated castle in the vein of Tim Burton's Beetlejuice, surrounded by fire. But it wasn't. It was actually a model. I remember walking into the room and seeing this big model that they had done. We are told by a chiron at the bottom that this is somewhere very down below where it's very hot, hot, hot. We hear me, AKA Griffelkin, confidently shouting to his co workers in the Department of Natural Disasters. These guys oversee the bad stuff that happens on Earth. Thanks a lot, guys. They're all wearing orange jumpsuits in some sort of factory setting. Dismal people are carrying large sacks. But Griffelkin couldn't be more upbeat. He doesn't seem super popular, though, because everyone's telling him to go kick rocks.
Will Friedle
It's the same voiceover over and over and over again. Same person.
Honey German
It is.
Will Friedle
Well, it's also same person.
Honey German
The first 30 minutes of this movie are all looped.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Honey German
Like the entire movie seems to be dubbed that. We must have just. It must have been so loud and didn't work because I also remember doing these looping sessions and going, oh, my God, there's like 42 cues on this page. We looped everything. Which was for everybody out there who doesn't remember. Looping is essentially you're watching what you did on screen and these beeps come. They go boop, boop, boop. And you have to say exactly what you said in exactly the same inflection. So you can fit it into the mouth flaps because they have to redo all the sound.
Will Friedle
I have to try to, like, mimic your soul. Exactly.
Honey German
And it's okay when you do a line here, a line there. It's a lot more difficult when you're doing entire scenes.
Will Friedle
Yeah. It seems like every time again. And that's one of the things with President's Daughter that we said too. It seemed like every time you guys were outside or in a bus or anything that you guys were, you had to eventually loop as well.
Honey German
I think one of the problems is I have such an amazingly powerful, incredible voice that most mics can't take the talent oozing from my lips.
Will Friedle
Yes.
Honey German
Is probably.
Will Friedle
I mean, they tell me, lower your volume, Sabrina. We can heal your will through this.
Honey German
Exactly. It's what it is. It's.
Will Friedle
It's just that power.
Honey German
I do what I can with the people of Earth, but I hated leaving my parents back on Krypton. So, yes, they're all wearing orange jumpsuits, carrying large sacks. Griffin, of course, is upbeat, and he runs into his two pals, Skid and Mark, two guys who have tired marks across their face. And I think we can guess how they died. They explained that traffic was awful this morning, especially because they rewired the lights to stay on red. Griffelkin's impressed with their devious work. Skid and Mark wonder if he is skipping class today because Attila the Hun is guest speaking. He reveals that not only is he skipping class, he's got a meeting all the way downstairs. Mrs. Beelzebub wants to see him.
Will Friedle
All right, so this is the point where we've now gotten to see. See a bit of your character, right, who you've, like, made as Griff Griffelkin. What. What were your inspirations? Were you pulling from anything as far as building this character? Because it definitely wasn't just going to be a regular guy. He had like a whole Persona that he had going on.
Honey German
You know what? I was kind of going for a little bit, which was kind of a go to thing in the 90s. And especially for me, it was like evil Jim Carrey. Okay, does that make sense?
Will Friedle
I saw it. I saw it.
Honey German
Yeah. So just kind of big. And there's. Everything is a joke. Like almost every line you say, whether you're saying a line or it's your expression, everything is there to elicit a laugh where you're not picking and choosing your moments, you're just going for the laugh every time.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Honey German
Evil, evil Jim Carrey. Love it. Eventually, Griffelkin makes it to Ms. B's lair, and it's Rhea Perlman in a very loud red wig. She asks Grifflkin to sit in her chair, but it immediately breaks when he tries to sit in it. This makes Ms. B and A nearby severed head of Marie Antoinette something that quickly becomes a big character in the movie. Laugh at his misfortune. Did you like the Marie character?
Will Friedle
Yeah, I did. I thought she was funny.
Honey German
That was cute.
Will Friedle
There's a. There's a moment where it's like, wait a minute, wait a minute. Did he just make the eyes? And then you have a really good line after it. So I did.
Honey German
Wait, did I make a what?
Will Friedle
You had a really good line after this moment. We're not there yet, but it's good. It's good.
Honey German
Gotcha. So obviously he was fooled by a breakaway chair, and even a first century student should have seen that one coming. But Since Griffelkin hasn't even opened a book this semester, as he starts to complain, Ms. B temporarily makes it impossible for Griffelkin to speak. She goes over his academic record. He has a 0.6 GPA and is terminally tardy. She knows if he looks bad, she looks bad. She's up for review soon, so she's making an executive decision. They're kicking Griffelkin upstairs to the surface, and all he has to do is go get some soul. Griffel can think she meant soul. So he puts on sunglasses and dances mostly with his groin. Exciting. Marie Antoinette. I also, for the record, do all the spins and the splits myself. I did not have a double. That is all me. Sabrina. How awesome a dancer am I on a scale of 10 to 10, what am I?
Will Friedle
This had me giggling so hard. I thought this part was so funny. I loved it. This is one of the parts where I'm like, this is where his mom's looking at him back in the day in his room, you know, walking into him, just practicing these ridiculous moves, being just such a goofball in the mirror. This was. This was baby.
Honey German
How were my spins and splits?
Will Friedle
They were great. You were great. Everything about it. No complaints here.
Honey German
That wasn't me, obviously, doing the spins and splits for everybody else out there.
Will Friedle
Of course not.
Honey German
Eventually, Ms. B supplies Griffelkin with the HDTV that is the human devil transaction voucher. It needs to be signed by a human giving up their soul for what they want in return most. And he'll be trying to get the soul of someone named Dave Heinrich. She conjures up a TV and we see a new story. On the mark, he's a rookie sensation. Hockey star, All American whiz kid. He's determined to make history as the youngest winner of the Stanley Cup. Leading Miss B to point out that ambition is an ugly thing. Especially because Dave's teammates are awful. Again, all professional hockey players. His team, the Demons, is destined to stay in last place. He's prime for a soul trade. With five minutes left to leave, Griffin throws on an all black outfit topped off with a leather jacket. Yeah, giving me a nice cross between Boy Bander and Criss Angel. I think that's accurate. Although I had sleeves and Criss angel can do all this magic, but he can't magic him up any sleeves, which I find odd. Ms. B tells him that once he gets to land, he'll interface with his right hand man. Gabby, Skid and Mark hand him a red flip phone with a cool pitchfork Antenna and a dense instruction manual. I should have kept the phone. Skid and I. I still have the card that he hands the Griffin. The. The. Oh, yeah, like his business card. But I should have kept the phone.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Honey German
Skid and Mark don't expect much. Wait a minute. Did I keep the phone? I might actually have the phone.
Will Friedle
You should take it to AT&T, see if they can re up it for you because you really like a phone. I don't really like.
Honey German
They need to make new brand new flip phones. I don't know why they don't. It'd be the biggest selling phone of the year. Skid and Mark don't expect much from him, but Ms. B leads him onto a rusted school bus driven by apparently someone with a pit pickle for a head. Yes. Why is he in hell? What happened to him when he died with a pickle for a head? Now, here's the thing. When we originally shot it, and I even make the joke so you can hear it's dubbed. Originally shot it, it was just a headless driver. That's why I say, keep your eyes in the road. See the joke I made there? And then as I walk away, you hear the dub of, you have a pickle for a head. So they just added that in post. Oh, and the pickle head. Yep.
Will Friedle
Right.
Honey German
Supposed to just be a guy with.
Will Friedle
No head, that it didn't read well or something.
Honey German
Maybe. Or they just wanted to use the technology. I don't know. There was a lot of effects that weren't very special, as we like to say. But.
Will Friedle
Yeah, but that was.
Honey German
No one knows exactly. The bus rolls off, changing its sign from Underworld to Delaware. We are now officially out of hell. And Griffelkin is taking in the birds chirping, flowers blooming, kids playing, and the smell of trees. All things Griffin hates. It's a horrible place. This is when I noticed I started to rely on one joke over and over and over again. The gagging, almost gonna vomit joke. It must have happened 40 times in this movie.
Will Friedle
That was one of my three. Man, you just like something was scratchy in your throat the whole time.
Honey German
Too many coughing, vomiting jokes. Too many, too many, too many.
Will Friedle
Wasn't there. I mean, it just was. It was. They. They worked every time. They.
Honey German
Yeah, but it was a lot.
Will Friedle
But it was.
Honey German
It was a lot. I was like, man, we're going for another one of these coughing, weird things. We join a game already in progress, and we get some pretty impressive hockey footage. And it was. This was cool. We shot up where The Vancouver Canucks play we. So we shot on their home ice, and we had a bunch of professional hockey players and they played games and then we would shoot the games. So it was cool. I mean, Matt, I know. We'll talk to him more about this. I don't want to jump on any of his stories, but I know he trained a lot for this film. I went and trained.
Will Friedle
I was gonna ask was he. Did he train on skates?
Honey German
You'll have to. Yeah, I know the answer, but we'll ask him when he gets here.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Honey German
We see that the Demons are down for nothing, and the only glimmer of hope is from their young star, Dave Heinrich. And yes, Matt was skating. When it's Matt, he also had a double. And so did I. The crowd is all over Dave, especially one kid, Lewis, who is relentlessly heckling him. Eventually, he gets reprimanded by his big sister and because the seats were free, while a very chatty announcer, who I thought was great rambles on and on, even referencing a patented Heinrich maneuver we see. Which is great on the Heimlich. I'm wondering if they named him Dave Heinrich just so they could take it. Do a takeoff of the Heimlich maneuver, and they named it the Heinrich maneuver. I don't know. We see Griffelkin, who is freezing in the stands, which is what lovely Sabrina was dressed as this morning. A guy who's so used to the heat of hell can't be having an easy time near the ice. He buys some Demons gear to get comfy. A scarf, a big jacket, a beanie, and notoriously, a selfish player. Heinrich won't pass the puck, infuriating his teammates. And when he does eventually shoot, the goalie blocks it, sending the puck into the stands right near Griffelkin. Fans dogpile for it, completely covering him. Ooh, he is having a rough time. And just when he thought it couldn't get any worse, an usher starts repeatedly hitting him in the head with some hottie hots until he eventually buys some. While complaining about the price, he realizes this usher is not a regular usher. It's also not the musician usher. It's Gabby, his right hand man. But his right hand man is a woman. Griffelkin says he has nothing against women, which is never a good way to start a conversation, but he is a solo act. She rolls her eyes and walks away without his change, by the way. Now, with the game finished, Griffelkin gets into position near the team bus. It's time for his big sales pitch. Heinrich exits but beelines to Lewis and Ann, the brother and sister we saw earlier. The boy is completely disinterested in Heinrich. And we find out the hockey star is dating his sister Ann. But no time to chat now. The media wants answers, so Dave leaves his girlfriend high and dry. That seems to be Dave's M.O. heinrich tells a reporter he wants the Stanley cup so bad he'd sell his soul. Oh, my. How lucky for Griffelkin, who pops up pretending to be a reporter. He wants to know if he can quote him on that, but Dave says it was a joke. We are now back on empty ice, which seems to just a lot of times you. I hate to say this because it's me and I'm awesome. They could have cut a lot of me just talking to myself and me by myself. I'm on the ice by myself. I'm in the stands by myself. I'm doing. They could have cut out four to five minutes of that and gotten closer to the 90 minute mark. And I say that as the person that would end up on the cutting room floor, they could have cut a lot more of that. But we're back on empty ice. A sleeping Griffelkin is woken by Gabby driving a Zamboni. One of my favorite words ever. I'm gonna say it again. Zamboni. She wants to. How soul on ice is going. Griffelkin fakes some confidence, saying he'll have the paperwork signed soon. But Gabby just isn't buying it. She decides to help out and lets him know where Heinrich lives. And it's in the governor's tower penthouse. But even with that information, now over at the tower, Griffin can't convince the security guard, who is actually one of our producers, that he's not just some obsessive fan. He says he doesn't want an autograph, just his signature. That doesn't help.
Will Friedle
Wait, the guy that said, I don't know his phone number. He's not. And he's not.
Honey German
Yeah, he was one. That was one of our producers. Yeah, that was one of our. He was great. He was awesome.
Will Friedle
He was so good. Wow.
Honey German
That was one we had. We did that a bunch. The director was in the movie. I'll point him out. Our other producer, George Loom, was in the movie. I'll point him out. All their names were on the back of the hockey jerseys. So actually all of the other team members were all names of producers and people on the crew. Yeah, it was fun.
Will Friedle
That's cool.
Honey German
He gives it one more try. He says he's the devil and unsuccessfully tries to show off his phone's abilities, but obviously that doesn't work. Defeated, he walks away. The phone does eventually work. He threw it on the ground in anger, forcing its magical powers to start. Now walking the city streets, he points it at a window washer and zaps him many floors down, probably killing him. He shoots a car. He shoots a car into a crash and he's now just killing citizens one by one. I remember actually shooting this scene. There were no lines for a lot of this movie. There was nothing written, so it was just, it was me walking around going, I flip ya. Like I just was making stuff up. And I remember distinctly as the one car drives by and I go, I flip ya. And I go, oh, I see you looking. It was because I saw they were pointing at me as they drove by like this, like they obviously recognized me. And I was like, I saw you looking. So that was me actually talking, right. To whoever was in the car.
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Right.
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Honey German
Yes, it's then that he notices a Dave Heinrichs penalty box. It's a hugely large sign in front of a restaurant, like a Hard Rock Cafe type bearing his target's name and likeness on again, an enormous neon sign. Griffin walks in. The hockey themed eatery even has a goalie in full gear including the helmet. As the host, Griffin asks to speak to Heinrich and is immediately laughed at. Dave has never been there before, ever. Once even more deflated, Griffin asks if they have any mold or garbage or anything festering to eat. End with a final no. He's about to leave, but then he is startled by a shriek. It is Louis, the little kid from before. He challenges Griffkin to a game of table hockey and quickly shuts him out. Lewis explains that he's gotten a lot of practice because his sister dates the owner of the place and Griffin realizes that this little kid is going to be his inn. He pretends to be a reporter writing the definitive Heinrich article with all the juicy details, good and bad. Louis, who we all know dislikes Dave, promises him some accent. He'll even get Griffelkin into the locker room before the game tonight and we are now at that night. Lewis, who's wearing the opposing team San Jose Sharks jersey, walks Griffelgen into the locker room as promised. Griffkin is introduced as a reporter and Heinrich seems with it until Griffogen pulls out his business card and admits he is from hell. Heinrich thinks this is a gag, so Griffin cuts right to the chase. He offers the Stanley cup in exchange for his soul, but the hockey star still doesn't believe him. So to prove his powers. I'm gonna make it, Grif. Grif says he'll make the team's worst and clumsiest defensive player score three goals tonight. Dave accepts the challenge. And then Griff looks right at the camera, breaking the fourth wall, and talks to us. There you go, fourth wall. DCOM alert, people.
Will Friedle
I was like, oh, God, is this gonna happen a bunch? I'm gonna die. And it only happened once. It was good. I thought it was good.
Honey German
I don't even remember if this was in the script or they told me I wouldn't have done it myself. So I'm wondering if the director came up to him, was like, hey, let's. Let's just go right into the line.
Will Friedle
Yeah, maybe I just did, like, an option pass. Like a. Maybe an option B pass. See what worked?
Cheekies
I thought it was.
Will Friedle
I thought it was, like, it was good moment, and then it just jumps right back in and you don't do it again. But it's just not a bothersome. It wasn't.
Honey German
But I did the coughing thing again. It's either coughing or choking. I'm always doing something like that. That was. I must have done that gag 25.
Will Friedle
Times next to you with just a bottle of water.
Honey German
I mean, that was nuts. We are now thrown right into the game and watch Griff use his phone to help the doofus that is again a professional hockey player score three goals. Completely shocking Heinrich, a braggy Griff magically appears on the bench now as four different people to scare Dave, forcing him to pass out. This was. I remember just having to keep doing every character, and they just kept moving me around. And then they're like, no, we're just gonna put different heads on. Like, okay, we also get the title here. As the Griff clone says, we'll have that soul faster than you can say H E Double Hockey Sticks. I love when the title ends up in the movie.
Will Friedle
I do, too.
Honey German
I was always waiting for Luke Skywalker to go, but. But we're in the middle of Star wars, and it just never happened. The next morning, now walking to his BMW, Dave's car alarm goes off. It's Griffelkin's voice telling him that he had a great game, and poof, Griffelkin appears. Dave complains that he hasn't had his cup of coffee yet. So to Help. Griff makes a cup appear in his hand while coffee reigns above. He even finishes it off with two sugars. Now, this is one thing I remember. And this was the best visual effects of the movie. Not the coffee, not the dropping. But they digitized out. They put us under these big tarps and we shot the scene. It was torrentially pouring when we shot this scene. I mean, storming pouring when we shot this scene. And when they cut to Matt, there was a tarp behind him and over. And they digitally took that out and lightened it up because, I mean, it was like we were in the middle of a hurricane shooting that scene. Oh. So I watched it again. I was like, there's the best effects of the entire movie. Because no one would have noticed that there used to be a tarp there and that it was pouring.
Will Friedle
Yes. Yes. That's so true. Wow.
Honey German
So even though he makes a coffee rain from above and finishes it off with the two sugars, out of nowhere, Heinrich still isn't fully sold yet and is late for practice. He tells Griff to drop the Damien bit and drives off. We are now back at the rink. Griff talks on the ice with Gabby again. We're just kind of randomly on ice, she says. This should have been a slam dunk or more like an empty net goal. Griff asks her for some advice and a ball of fire puts a book right into his lap. It's soul snatching for idiots. She cites page 37 and tells him to stop by the Iceland skate rink at 3pm at the rink, Griff sees Lewis playing hockey alone, avoiding the big kids. And Heinrich isn't any help for his skills because the guy barely has time for his own teammates. Griffelkin notices Ann practicing too. She appears to be a pro figure skater. Lewis informs him that she had near perfect scores at nationals and was supposed to be an Olympian. But instead Dave followed his dreams and she didn't. Lewis calls Dave a puck hog and continues to bash him. It's almost like the puck is glued to a stick. And a shout out here to the actual skater doing the skating as the stand in for Ann was a girl named Keela Oze, who was runner up to Canadian National Champion or Canadian National Champion. And my girlfriend.
Will Friedle
I was gonna say. Is this the one you dated?
Honey German
That was my girlfriend. She and I dated for a couple years. Yeah. Keela was a very sweet girl and we had a lot of fun. Hello, Keela. And that night we are back at another hockey game. It's the demons versus the Disney Synergy. Gotta love the synergy. Synergetic. Mighty Ducks from the stands. Griff gets to work early, using his phone to literally glue the puck to Dave's stick and glove. He even turns the puck into a boomerang, making sure Dave can't score. We also get a glimpse into the Beelzebubs Institute. And Ms. B is watching on TV, loving what she sees. We are now back at Dave's house, which I remember was a beautiful apartment that we shot in in Vancouver. Dave is wallowing in his terrible performance when he hears a flurry of doorbells. It is Griff. But rather than wait, Griff just transports himself inside, right next to the hockey star on the couch. Now, finally a believer. Dave says he still can't just give his soul away to a stranger. Griff asks, well, who are you saving your soul for anyway? He's been dating Anne for two years and Lewis hates him. The truth is, Dave is one of the best players in the NHL. But he's going to die alone. Wow. Griff uses his phone to show him his future. A report on ESPN about how Dave dies extremely overweight and choking on goose liver at a smorgasbord. He never won the Stanley cup, and it plagued him until the day he died at 42. Wow. That's not Disney.
Will Friedle
You're not only like. I mean, you. There you are. I mean, I mean, there's just so.
Honey German
Many things, so many, so many things wrong with that. You're kind of fat. Shaming him.
Will Friedle
Absolutely.
Honey German
You're dying at a smorgasbord. Yeah, it's. It's a thousand different layers in general.
Will Friedle
Like you. Yeah. If you don't, if you don't do this, you'll die.
Honey German
You'll die.
Will Friedle
You're absolutely headed for death at a young age. And did you pick up what age it was? 42, 43. Like, oh, my gosh. Wow.
Honey German
It's bad. It was bad. Yeah. A lot of that didn't work. Griff explains if he wants to be one of the best who's ever lived, he needs some help. And this is the way to go. Eventually, Dave agrees, allowing Griff to appear in a suit with slicked back hair. It was a huge suit, by the way. It looked like. Yeah. Oh, man. My wife was like, what the hell? What size of that suit. You loved it.
Will Friedle
Yes. But this. Okay, so remind me, though, because I was like, was that how suits were worn? Because there was a time when suits were a lot bigger. Was that how they were worn at that time?
Honey German
I mean, I think so.
Will Friedle
Maybe not as big as what you had, but, like, I mean, but this.
Honey German
Was like psycho killer, 80s, like, band kind of size.
Will Friedle
I like. I liked the change of the look, and I thought you were gonna keep it going. I was kind of sad when you went back to the regular look because I thought it was like, this is his. Like, now he's a business guy. Now he's like, he's getting sexy devil. Yes, he's got the sexy devil going now. And then it went back to the punk rock Sugar ray.
Honey German
Exactly. Well, we are back there. And now it is time to sign the contract. But before Dave commits, he wants to know how hot it gets down there. Griff explains it's not the heat that gets you, it's the humidity. And then he signs. I noticed that I did my radar. Radar O'Reilly from Mash Line here, where I say, now initial where you initialed. So I know that you initialed, which is a straight pull from mash. Thank you, all my MASH fans out there. He also needs his mom's maiden name at the institute. Ms. B is getting nervous about how long things are taking, but then she gets a telegram with good news. By the way, the person delivering the telegram was George Loom, our other producer, who is one of the things he's best known for is he did an amazing documentary called Hearts of Darkness about the making of Apocalypse Now. Go see it. Incredible movie.
Will Friedle
Okay.
Honey German
That's George Loom. Great guy. She quickly calls Griffelkin to confirm, and he gloats about his work. And Ms. B suggests he stays on land for a minute. Maybe he can strum up some new business or add some more holes in the ozone layer. Again, very 90s. Or help out some crooked lawyer. That night before the Demons game, Anne is giving Dave some skating advice on the bench, but he's barely listening. She gets mad. Why is she wasting her time trying to help him? I also didn't get that she doesn't play hockey. I don't get why the figure skater.
Will Friedle
Her whole storyline. Because we kind of skimmed right by it, and it's not really good enough to talk about in Sabrina Sees. But that whole storyline didn't work for me.
Honey German
No, I know.
Will Friedle
Like, it was just strum through. It didn't make sense to me why the little brother hated him so much. I get it. You're irritable about your big sis's little, like, boyfriend or whatever, but I thought it was going to be because of something that had happened before. And they strum through the her skating and not doing anything.
Honey German
Yeah, no, they never.
Will Friedle
Just was like, never explained.
Honey German
I agree.
Will Friedle
That whole thing was kind of like. Then you just didn't need to do it at all.
Honey German
Right.
Will Friedle
Not like, do it a little bit. Just don't talk.
Honey German
No, I agree. I agree.
Will Friedle
He's just like a crappy boyfriend because he's too caught up in himself. That's it.
Honey German
But I also. It's like you're going about to get. You're a professional hockey player, the best one in the NHL. You're I don't care girl guy. You're gay, you're straight. You're not going to take advice from somebody about your hockey game that doesn't play hockey. I don't care who it is. It's like, here's what you have to do across the blue line. Like, really?
Will Friedle
Totally.
Honey German
Thank you very much. Yeah. So, yeah, he's not listening. She gets mad. Why is she wasting her time trying to help him? Dave says it's not his fault that he's on this side of the glass and she's not, which also doesn't make any sense because she wouldn't be a hockey player. She's had enough of this douchebag and walks away. We get another ESPN report, this time with opinions on Dave from around the league. We see real NHL stars Paul Correa and Luke Robitaille and are told the demons have won 13 in a row. Thanks to Heinrich, the team has even moved into first place. And we all know that this is thanks to him selling his soul. But at Dave's house, things aren't quite as victorious and won't pick up his calls. And he is moping around. He's always in very tight clothes. Matt Lawrence and I would love to have a body like his. Just for a day. Just for one day. I'd be arrested, though, because I wouldn't be wearing clothes anywhere. Back in the Demons locker room, reporters swarm Dave. They ask how his team is doing. So good. And he jokes, I made a deal with the devil. Everyone thinks he's kidding, but we know that he's not. Outside, Griff continues to hang around Dave. ESPN Player of the Week. Griff even suggests that Joe Montana didn't win four Super Bowls on his own. If this movie was A, you know, 10 years later, it would have been Tom Brady.
Will Friedle
Yep. Which seems even more wild because it's like the numbers are even bigger.
Honey German
Yep. Amazing Dave's dreams are finally coming true. He is Stanley Cupbound. But something is still bothering him. Griff meets back up with Gabby, who is causing accidents in the arena parking lot. He needs more advice. Has she ever seen someone with post soul removal blues? She says it happens sometimes, but he can fix things by helping Dave with his relationship. Griffogen doesn't seem stoked to become a cupid for Dave and Ann, but sure, what the hell, he'll fix things. Ha. What the hell? I made a joke. These days it feels like everyone is talking about how the American dream of owning a home is dying, that so many hardworking Americans have been locked out of home ownership. And if you're one of the millions yearning to own your home, Rocket is here to give you back the keys. They're working to lower down payments to lift us up, giving first time buyers a head start on their starter homes and fighting for homes for those who fought and served so we can have ours. The American dream isn't dying, it's just been out of reach. Everyone in this country deserves to own a piece of it and Rocket isn't going to stop until everyone can own the dream. Visit Rocket.com today or call 804 Rocket.
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Honey German
Right.
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Honey German
We are back at the rink with Anne. Figure skating again. Keyleth figure skating. And Griffelkin gives her a score. 6, 6 and 6. By the way, I just canceled it because it got stolen. But the last credit card that I had the. You know, you have to give the final numbers, like, what's the. The code in the back was 666. And every time I gave it, the person would be like, oh, my God, you got to get rid of that card. I can say that now because it's gone. It is the first time she has seen this demon. But he introduced himself as a friend of Lewis's. Yes, she's heard about him and she figures he's there for some scoop on her ex for his article. She says he's changed over the past five years because of his obsession with the Stanley Cup. He used to play for love and now it's just for a trophy. My guess is the money's good, too. Griff brings Dave to what I can only guess is an abandoned local theme park called Playland, hoping it can bring back a simpler time for the hockey star. This is when he was dating Ann as a teenager. Optimistic, happy. And this is when I do. Well, possibly the most disgusting thing in the movie so far. I seductively smell a corn dog. Yes, I do. Did that bother you? Me just sniffing away at that corn dog? Can you picture it? Is it in your head right now, Sabrina?
Will Friedle
I hated it. I hated it. I put it down at Sabrina's Seas going, somebody should have told me at time mark. 38 minutes and 16 seconds to just skip 10 to 20 seconds.
Honey German
Really? That's right. Loving it. Loving it. You know what I remember is I remember because I wanted to eat the corn dog. Funny. And that's a bad thing to do is actually eat or make it part of the joke. Cause I must have had 25 minutes.
Will Friedle
You had to eat over and over again.
Honey German
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Terrible idea.
Honey German
Oh, it was a lot. So I apologize if you need to bleach your eyes.
Will Friedle
Okay. Yes.
Honey German
But you look like you do Anyway, we've talked about the whitest white part of the eye.
Will Friedle
Terrible stomachache after that.
Honey German
I did.
Will Friedle
You made us put us all through that.
Honey German
I earned my diarrhea. Dave says he is in a hurry, so he's shocked when Anne and Lewis show up. It looks like Griff had a plan after all. The corn dog seems to play a part in their relationship and not just because it smelled like. Not because I smelled it like a perv. We get a very un Disney joke here too, when Lewis asks why a corn dog is special to them and Griffelkin says, it's complicated. One day you'll understand. Does he mean. Does he mean what I think it is? Like, this was. This was something they used. I mean.
Will Friedle
Where was your script supervisor, like, going? No, Will, no. No.
Honey German
Did you. But that was a lie. Did you. Did that come in your head? Yes.
Will Friedle
It was like, just. What? How? Are you kidding me? Are. No. Everyone's okay with this.
Honey German
I guess so. Well, I mean, corn dogs are good.
Will Friedle
It's like. Yeah, just the whole. Okay, now. Now the devil guy's giving advice and weird advice to this like 11 year old. It's.
Honey German
Yeah, it was creepy. It was creepy. But what's creepier? That or the sniffing of the corn dog? I think it's the combination of the two.
Will Friedle
It was the combo of it. It was like a 1, 2 punch.
Honey German
It was a 1, 2, 1, 2 per punch. The strategy seems to be working though, as Anne and Dave are connecting, even jumping on their old favorite ride. A scary floating merry go round that Griff. I was trying to remember what the name of those things are.
Will Friedle
They're hanging the swings.
Honey German
Yeah. Aren't they just called the swings? Is that what they are? I don't know what they are. Yeah, A scary floating merry go round the swings that Griff, for no reason other than to impress Louis, speeds up to hundreds of miles an hour, which of course would have killed everybody there. Dave even plays street hockey with Louis, who appears to be warming up to his sister's man. Dave and Lewis take turns shooting on Griff as their goalie, who also shows off Jamaican accent. It wasn't Jamaican I was going for. I was going for German. It was. It was like Schwarzenegger time to enter the house of Griffelkin. Is what I was like, doing that kind of stuff.
Will Friedle
Yeah, no, that's it. That part didn't sound Jamaican. But there was like a. The like Caribbean. It's when you're in the Caribbean, they're playing it all the time. It's that thing?
Honey German
Oh, the calypso drums.
Will Friedle
Yeah, that was playing. Was this where it was? Because I have it in my notes, but I can't remember where it was, that it was just, like, randomly playing. I'm like, why? Why was that the chosen.
Honey German
Because it works. It works. You gotta love those steel drums. Those things are great.
Will Friedle
I do. I love them. But it made zero sense of where.
Honey German
In a hockey movie. In a Disney hockey movie. Ann encourages her little brother to show off his newest play idea, the Louis leftover. And Dave digs it. The date is going very well. Good job, Griff. But what are all these emotions he's feeling? Could this be happiness? Griff quickly calls Skid and Mark. He doesn't get it. He's flushed. His hands are clammy. He can't breathe. He feels really good. They tell him apparently he has. Has. That's human attachment syndrome. He begs his friends not to tell Ms. B and they promise they won't. But we do a quick cut to Skid and Mark, who have immediately told her, which I thought was very funny.
Will Friedle
That was good.
Honey German
Ms. B is concerned she needs to make a substitution. She also gets into an argument with Marie Antoinette's head, threatening to make her a bowling ball, and is strongly bitten on the finger by her. You know, everyday stuff that happens in hell. Right back at Dave's penalty box, Dave actually arrives to eat there. He's with Ann and they're on a date. The goalie host is thrilled. And this is where I thought Dave acted like a total dick to the guy. He's like, I'm so happy you're here. He's like, yeah, we'll show ourselves to her and see.
Will Friedle
I did too. I didn't talk to Matt about that. I didn't get it.
Honey German
He went. He went the dick route. It was very strange. He could have just gone the corn door.
Will Friedle
Was it going towards the direction that he was supposed to be doing to win the girl?
Honey German
No. I agree 100%. 100%.
Will Friedle
It's like he's just showing him that he is actually a dick whether he takes her to the swings or not.
Honey German
Yes. Hilariously, even with his pictures plastered everywhere, no patrons approach him or even look his way. Anne says she's really impressed with Dave recently. That's what she says. I'm really impressed with you recently. He's matured a lot and says he actually does have a soul. And that's when we get this dialogue and music combo. Please listen to the perfectly placed lyrics.
Will Friedle
I don't know.
Honey German
Maybe Maybe you really do have a soul.
Will Friedle
Away.
Honey German
So Dave starts to spill the beans to Ann. He's going to reveal the whole deal with the Devil. But he's interrupted by a breaking news report on the tv. Even though he's playing better than anyone has in the history of hockey, he's been traded to the last place Annapolis Angels for three minor leaguers. Uh oh. This seems like the work of Ms. B. Ann is furious. She storms out of the restaurant with Lewis while Dave swears he knew nothing of the trade. And once they're gone, Griff does the same. He says Devils always abide by their contract. He doesn't get what's happening. Dave drives off and all the things are falling apart. Griff calls Ms. B. And even though Marie Antoinette warns him that this isn't a good time cause she's in the middle of the violent workout, Ms. B hops on the phone and tells him to come home. He runs back to Gabby asking about a possible loophole in the contract, but she doesn't see any. Sure, the trade isn't fair, but the Demons will still get the Stanley cup as promised in the paperwork, with or without Heinrich. Ooh, corn dog move. We're gonna say that from now on instead of Dick move, corn dog move. But Griff again wants to know if Dave can get his soul back. Gabby says the only way is to stop the Demons from winning the championship because then the deal would be null and void. Yeah, there's always a loophole at the institute. Ms. B, Marie Antoinette, Skid and Mark are at the bus station waiting for Griff, but he is not on the bus. Ms. B says heads will roll for this, but promises Marie it won't be hers. Meanwhile, Griffelkin is unsuccessfully hitchhiking to Annapolis, where the Terrible Angels are practicing and their new teammate Dave watches on. Their goalie is so bad they call him Ozone because there's a big hole at the net. One player just practices his celebration dance all the time and another one has the best slap shot in the league. He just won't shoot unless he's insulted and gets angry. Dave calls Lewis and says everything is going to be okay. His agent will get him endorsements and he wants to talk to Anne, but the kid hangs up and only tells Anne about the endorsements, so she thinks he's still being a selfish jerk. This makes Lewis devilishly laugh. And when did he become the villain in the movie? Because all of a sudden I hated the kid. I didn't really like him. And then after that I really Started to hate him.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Honey German
What are you doing? And then Griff arrives on the ice to help Dave, who feels like he's been rotting in hell. Griff says he's come to help. He even plans to turn in his little phone until Dave suggests using it to make the team better. Griff loves this idea and starts with Ozone, the goalie. But Griff realizes quickly his positive energy is shorting out the phone. He's getting a fatal error. Dave storms out. But Griff explains there is still a natural way of saving a soul. Just beat the demon. Dave breaks it to him. As good as he is, he can't do that with the world's worst team. But Griffelkin believes in him. Dave is one of the greats. He just has to start passing the puck. Dave starts to understand what has to happen. He calls a team meeting and gives a pep talk about winning the Stanley Cup. Even his teammates have to laugh. He promises he'll become a generous partner. The old Dave Heinrich is history. One for all. And then Griff has to remind him of the second part. All for one, Dave. The team is fired up and ready to play, even when the goalie runs right into the wall. This is where we get a nice Disney montage, which we like with a nice licensed song, I Believe in Miracles by the Jackson sisters. But instead of I believe in miracles, you sexy thing, they change it to you hockey thing. What'd you think about the song, Sabrina? Come on.
Will Friedle
I love what Dizzy does. Stuff like this. I think it's funny. It's corny. It's perfect. It's like it's, you know.
Honey German
I know.
Will Friedle
It's a Disney thing. It is a Disney thing. Yeah. And I love when you, like, use music that makes sense and redo it to make it even more Disney fiant. Yeah, I agree with the movie.
Honey German
Despite the song, the Angels are on a streak. And now Dave is even leading the team in assists. The goalie has become a human vacuum cleaner. We now see Anne and Lewis reading the newspaper, excited about the wins, even if they're still not talking to Dave. And at the end of the montage, the Angels have made it all the way to the Stanley cup finals. So we went right from last place to the Stanley cup finals in a matter of one song.
Will Friedle
In a season like that, apparently you.
Honey German
Just need a montage and a hockey thing song. And boom, you are now, all of a sudden in the Stanley Cup Finals. I love it. It's a dcom. So we're gonna go with it. It also stars Me. So it works perfectly.
Will Friedle
I'm in.
Honey German
They obviously will be playing against the Demons because we all saw that coming. So it's the Angels against the demons. Demons. Notice they weren't allowed to use any real names because there's actually the Devils, but they weren't allowed to use that. So it's the Angels and the Demons.
Will Friedle
They did use one of the real names of the team.
Honey German
Well, yeah, they use San Jose. They use the San Jose Sharks. And they also used, obviously, the Mighty Ducks.
Will Friedle
Yes.
Honey German
Because it's Disney. Now, here's one thing that I noticed. Dave tries to call Ann, and he tries to call from the same apartment that he lived in before he was trained.
Will Friedle
One of my Sabrina seats. And they clearly used almost the same exact shot of her answering machine. Pretty much the same one she comes in at the end. So they could have literally just shortened the first one and gone a little bit slower. It was kind of like.
Honey German
I think you're 100% right.
Will Friedle
The apartment they rented. Because that probably was the same apartment. It just was in a different room.
Honey German
Oh, yeah. No, it was. It was. But it was one of those things where it was like, why are you. You moved. You got traded to another team. Why are you in the same apartment? But he was in the same apartment at.
Will Friedle
Wearing pretty much the same.
Honey German
Exactly the same clothes. Yes. Her house is now filled with flowers. Is he sending some? We don't know. She might have become a florist. I have no idea. But he leaves a message because Anne still won't pick up. We are now back at the institute. Ms. B learns about the angel's success and is obviously furious. She demands to take a trip to Delaware. And we do another time jump. It is already game seven of the Stanley cup finals. Next win takes it all. They're in Annapolis, which means they had home court advantage, which also doesn't make sense, but whatever. Dave is preoccupied about Ann and Lewis not being at the game. But guess what? Right before the puck is going to be dropped, they take their seats. Yes, they showed up. Dave smiles. He's ready. Now he is all in. But apparently we aren't because we jump right to the end of the game. So we jumped right to being first, getting to the Stanley cup and then jumping right to Game 7 of the Stanley cup, and then jumping right to the end of Game 7 of the Stanley Cup.
Will Friedle
Lots of. And honestly. Okay, that's fine. I don't need a bunch of. At this point. We've had plenty of hockey shots. We've seen all of them. Like, at this point, it's fine. Let's just get to where we're. Where we're trying to go.
Honey German
That is true. The score is demons 3, angels 2. Heinrich has the puck and the clock is ticking. Instead of shooting, he looks for another player, the one with the fast slap shot. Dave insults the guy's mother and passes in the puck. It's a miracle. And a fast slap shot happens. He ties it up, 102 remaining. When the unthinkable happens. Ms. B walks in. Dave is the puck with just a minute left, he takes it down the ice. But we see Ms. B sending some sort of train spell to another angel who, even though they're on the same team, checks Dave at full speed. Dave is out cold. Griffin then sees Ms. B and knows this is gonna be trouble. Dave is taken back to the locker room by the coach and Griff for a well needed timeout. With 45 seconds left and their MVP out, Heinrich is announced completely out of the game. Griff knows there's nothing he can do. He needs some divine intervention. And that's when a beam of light enters the room. It's Gabby. She has wings. She reveals that Gabby is short for Gabrielle and she is a double agent. Keep in mind, we saw her causing accidents, most likely killing. So it's a very dark double agent in character that happens. Anybody who knows what it's like to be a double agent or secret agent, myself included, of course, knows that that can happen. You gotta play the role.
Will Friedle
Yep.
Honey German
She says she can't just change things upstairs. They're a little more hands off. Dave suggests that Griffin takes the ice in his uniform. What? The trade is in place. And the crowd goes nuts as Griff, in Dave's uniform, takes the ice, hiding his face with a bandage and falling everywhere. Is this a good plan? This isn't a good plan.
Will Friedle
I don't. It's a terrible plan. His phone is dead. Yeah, he has no luck with his phone. How is he? How do we know if he can even skate? I know you can't skate.
Honey German
I can't. Thank you. Thank you. And he's from hell.
Will Friedle
I'm not sure how this is gonna work out.
Honey German
There's not a lot of skating. I don't know much about hell, thankfully, but I know there's not a lot of ice rinks.
Will Friedle
No, no, there's not. So, like, this is terrible.
Honey German
This is a terrible plan.
Will Friedle
As soon as he walks out, it's like, oh, wow. Yeah, it is going to be terrible.
Honey German
I don't get it. Griff as Dave gives the team a pep talk, focusing on learning their names. They ask what play they should run and Griff guesses the Louis left over. The team is shocked, really, but okay, let's do it. Though confused, Griffin gets ready for the face off and Ms. B can't get her spells to work on Heinrich because he's in the locker room. She has no power here because she doesn't know the truth. Truth. In the final play, 23 seconds left, and again for no reason whatsoever, Dave walks back out on the bench, completely putting their plan in jeopardy. Dave watches the final play, which Lewis recognizes as his idea, and it confuses the demons. Even Gabby is watching on with bated breath. Seven seconds left. The puck gets to Dave. He spins off a player. 3 seconds left. He takes a shot and completely misses. But with one second left, he gets a second chance and he shoots and scores. The arena goes not the Angels win. And Griff and Dave trade jerseys again. So no one catches on. We see the duo holding up the Stanley cup and taking laps to celebrate. And just off the ice, Griffelgan asks Gabrielle if this means he gets his wings. But they're interrupted by Ms. B, who is steaming. She calls Griffelkin a backstabber, but he says it's payback for the collapsible chair. You know, from the very beginning of the movie. As Ms. B complains, Gabby shuts her up, making her unable to speak, just like she did to Griffal King. Remember, like all the way back there. At the beginning of the movie, Ms. B gets her voice back, only to go directly to the penalty box and catch on fire, returning her to hell. We're back to hot, hot, hot. As Dave embraces Ann and Lewis now that he's won the Stanley Cup. A reporter asks him where he's going and he answers, I'm going to Playland, the nostalgic theme park. You know, remember from earlier?
Will Friedle
Right.
Honey German
We cut to their favorite merry go round ride now with all the main characters on it, even Gabby, once again going thousands of miles an hour. Roll credits. That is our movie.
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Farm knows making smarter financial moves today secures your financial freedom for a second tomorrow on my Cultura Podcast Network. We believe this too by sharing money management tips that help you realize your dreams. Like on our show Life as a Gringo with DJ Dramos.
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Honey German
Right?
DJ Dramos
You know, hiring somebody to do credit repair for me. That was a gift that I gave myself that allowed me to then get my first apartment, get my first car under my name, then eventually buy my own home. Like these are all things that are possible for all of us. We just have to educate ourselves and put in some of the hard work.
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Honey German
That was a journey. And now can we do some real reviews? I'd like to do two five star reviews this week because this is my movie so we're not going to find any. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Sabrina, we have a familiar person who has written the five star review for you this week.
Will Friedle
Who do you got again? One of our faves now pretty much a family member to us here on the podcast of magical rewind, Unamid.
Honey German
Welcome back.
Will Friedle
Yes, Unamid, five stars as always. I've only seen it once, but anything that involves Eric from Boy Meets World working for the devil must be something worth seeing. I agree. Unamid. I was in 100%, thought he might be the golden child as normal. Turns out he was a devil. Boom. I'm in.
Honey German
I'm in, I'm in. I love it. It will work for me. That's great. Okay, so I of course, have the one star review. I love it. This review, it's one of my favorite reviews I've ever read. This is from Jonah F. And the review reads as follows. There was no Ds and there was no nuts. Thank you very much. Don't know what it means. One star. And we are now, of course, hopping into our favorite part of the podcast. My favorite part, Sabrina's real favorite part, which is our feature game that producer Jensen comes up with this week. The game is called who Said It?
Will Friedle
And Tara has the answers for us this week.
Honey German
Okay, good. So Tara's got the answer. So here we go. After hearing Dave sort of tell his team one for all and all for one, the idea of inspirational sports quotes comes to mind. We will be given five famous sports quotes with multiple choice answers and we have to guess from that list who said it. For example, if I say you miss 100% of the shots you don't take, we know that it's Wayne Gretzky, not Michael Scott. Three out of five and we win. Ready? Here we go. No, this is going to be terrible. This is going to be A, gonna be bad. Here's the first one. Number one, the quote is champions keep playing until they get it right. Was that A, Tiger Woods, B, Sandy Koufax. C, Dominique Dawes. Or D, Billie Jean King? I'm gonna say D, Billie Jean King.
Will Friedle
I'm gonna say C, Sandy Koufax.
Honey German
But B is Sandy Foucaux.
Will Friedle
I mean, B.
Honey German
Okay, I'm so I'm gonna say you're going B. I'm going D. Will is correct. It's E. Yes. Thank you, producer Tara.
Will Friedle
What does Billie Jean King do?
Honey German
She's a tennis player. An incredible tennis player.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Honey German
All right, number two, the quote is, I hated Every minute of training. But I said, don't quit. Suffer on and live the rest of your life as a champion. Unquote. Is that A, Lisa Leslie? B, Kobe Bryant, C, Muhammad Ali. Or D, Brett Faravra? Go ahead, you pick first.
Will Friedle
I feel like it's. It can't be Kobe or Muhammad for some reason in my head.
Honey German
Okay.
Will Friedle
I don't think it'd be Lisa Leslie either.
Honey German
Well, that would. I'll go D, you say it's Brett Favre. I'm gonna go with C, Muhammad Ali.
Will Friedle
Will is right. C. Damn it.
Honey German
I love that number three. And I love this quote, but I don't know who said it. Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever. Is that A, Lance Armstrong? God, I hope not. B, Michael Irvin, C Kristy Yamaguchi. Or D, Steffi Graf. Pain is temporary. Quitting lasts forever. God, I hope it's not Lance Armstrong, but I think it might be.
Will Friedle
I think it is Lance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong.
Honey German
Should we say A?
Will Friedle
I'm saying A.
Honey German
All right. We're gonna say reluctantly, say A.
Will Friedle
You both are right. It's A.
Honey German
So I won already. Boom. That's my three. But here we go. Number four. A trophy carries dust. Memories last forever. Is that A, Larry Bird, b, Al Unser Jr. C Mary Lou Retton or D, Rod Carew? Do you know who these people are?
Will Friedle
Any one of those?
Honey German
You know who Larry Bird is?
Will Friedle
Who was Larry Bird?
Honey German
Larry Bird is one of the greatest basketball players of all time.
Will Friedle
For what team?
Honey German
The Boston Celtics in the 80s.
Will Friedle
Oh, yes. Okay. Yes.
Honey German
Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. The rivalry that they had. Al Unser Jr. Was a race car driver. Mary Lou Retton was a gymnast, and Rod Carew was a baseball player.
Will Friedle
Okay, trophies.
Honey German
I'm gonna say it's gonna be. Be B, Allen or Junior.
Will Friedle
I'll go with that.
Cheekies
The answer is C. Oh, it's Mary Lou.
Honey German
It's Mary Lou. Right.
Will Friedle
They don't win trophies in.
Honey German
That's why I thought six. Yeah, I don't think. I didn't think so either. But anyway. And here's the last one, people. I. It's number five. The quote is, I didn't come this far to only come this far. Great quote. Is that A, Tom Brady, B, Rob Gronkowski, C, Hulk Hogan. Or D, Brooke Hogan?
Will Friedle
I feel like Brooke could have had this in, like, the song that she put out. Didn't she? Wasn't she, like, a little pop star for a second?
Honey German
Was she? I don't know. Yeah, she was. Is that really. So Brooke Hogan is really Hulk Hogan?
Will Friedle
Like, is this one of her songs? Did Jensen put in one of her lyrics of her songs?
Honey German
Probably.
Will Friedle
No.
Honey German
God, I hope not.
Will Friedle
I'm gonna go with Rob Gronkowski.
Honey German
You're going. We're going with Gronk, huh? I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Tom Brady.
Will Friedle
A Will wins. It's Tom.
Honey German
I went four for five.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Honey German
And I swear I didn't look any of these up. That's great. Can we now do some. Thank you. By the way, producer Tara, since this was the movie where apparently producer Jensen went, I'm done. I'm not doing this with you people anymore ever again. Not even showing up.
Will Friedle
Oh, God.
Honey German
Can we do a Sabrina seat, please?
Will Friedle
Yes, we can. Okay, so I will say, I. I don't know if this was on everyone. The one that I chose on YouTube to watch literally had all of the Disney intersection.
Honey German
It was the Zoog one.
Will Friedle
The Zoog.
Honey German
Me too. Yes, Me too.
Will Friedle
And I. That took me down memory lane. I remember watching it had movie surfers where they go behind the scenes. They showed us a little bit of Remember the Titans. So that part really just like.
Honey German
Do you remember Bug Juice?
Will Friedle
Yes.
Honey German
Where they was like, everyone's at camp. Like, I don't even know how I remembered all this stuff.
Will Friedle
It was so awesome. So if you do go to listen to this or go watch it on YouTube, please try to find the one you can see. It's got a little interstitial look to it versus the one that's just Will's face in it. Because it is so good. It really brings you right back to those Friday nights or whenever the night was that they would bring these movies out, and I absolutely loved them all. It makes the watch a little bit longer. It takes it to an hour and 40 or something like that. Just a little bit longer. But it's definitely worth it. So that was one thing I really wanted to just push back. I got through all my amazing. Just your look head to toe was just absolutely wonderful.
Honey German
Yeah.
Will Friedle
I was wondering if you even asked if you could have fake piercing, Because I feel like that would have been like.
Honey German
No, I'm not much of a piercing guy, so. No, I have tattoos, but I don't. I. No piercings.
Will Friedle
All right. Okay. So first of all, my. It happens so close, and it instantly made me go, oh, I hope sue is watching, because I feel like she's gonna say, I wish I could do that when she can zap you to stop talking.
Honey German
Oh, nice. Thank you.
Will Friedle
I'm like, I bet you, sue, your wife Has a funny comment.
Honey German
God, I wish I could have done that.
Will Friedle
Nice funny comment when it happened because it happens like throughout. Throughout a little bit. She has probably the best villainous laugh I've ever heard.
Honey German
It's great, isn't it?
Will Friedle
It was so good. I just, I had to have first question. This is one of my first Sabrina Sees really. Because those were just little comments was to pull a muscle. A thing during this time when you were filming. Do you remember? Because the joke is used or talked about three times in the movie.
Honey German
I remember I added one. I totally ad lib one as I'm running away when I'm like, pull a muscle and it feels good.
Will Friedle
And that ends up being the first one.
Honey German
That's. I just.
Will Friedle
There's two other ones of it being said and it's not your character that says them.
Honey German
Really?
Will Friedle
Yeah. So it happens three times. I'm like, I don't remember that being like a funny one liner. Like a pull the muscle type thing. So it does. It happens three times. I love that you finally got your flip phone and that you broke the wall. My second question.
Honey German
Yeah.
Will Friedle
I almost started questioning whether it was JTT that was the voice of Lion King because this little brother had almost the exact same. Yes. Of Simba. Like the exact same voice almost. It was crazy. I actually stopped and looked it up just to make sure I was remembering correctly because it was so close. He's got a great little voice, that kid.
Honey German
He does.
Will Friedle
I really, really love it.
Honey German
He was a nice kid too. He was a nice kid.
Will Friedle
I wanted to know. Okay. And then my last Sabrina sees actually, before I ask you the next question, that scoreboard was probably the worst scoreboard we've ever seen. It didn't look like a scoreboard.
Honey German
Oh, yeah. It looks totally fake. Looked totally fake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will Friedle
The font they used, the way it was. It didn't look like it was even. I would have been fine if it was looking like an older one with the bulbs versus like what they use was terrible. That one was. That was probably the worst of the like little non special effects that we had.
Honey German
I agree. I agree.
Will Friedle
I already talked about the first one looking cartoony to me. My last one was there was clearly a lot of improv moments and you've already shown us or told us a little funny story. The one that I that sticks out to me was when you were trying to figure out how you were going to talk to him for the first time. Like how you were. What your cell pitch was gonna be.
Honey German
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Like how more many Times more. Were you improving? Because it seemed like there were other parts where they. You were just kind of. Of you were going.
Honey German
It was a common. You know, so it was. It was mostly improv. I was coming up with them. The director would yell them out, maybe one of the writers, somebody, hey, try this, try that. And so it was a big collab, but, yeah, we were just making them up on the spot.
Will Friedle
Did you like that? Because you are so quick. Like, I love doing that. You do that so much on ours and on. On the pod meets world. Like, you are so good at that stuff. Like, did you absolutely just love that because it got you. It probably helped you build your character even more?
Honey German
It absolutely does. That's. It was. Again, I. Looking back now, they could have cut five minutes of just me riffing, but they liked it. But they liked it because you were.
Will Friedle
You were good at it, and they liked it a lot. So I just. It's definitely just knowing a little bit more about scripts. I don't think the somebody who just watches it would really realize that. But it was like knowing and watching how quick you do stuff here. I'm like, oh, my gosh, he's just riffing again. And they're, like, using so much of it. I loved it so much. That was my last scene thing.
Honey German
Well, thank you very much. We are now coming to the portion of our program where we have to rate our film. And I'm gonna make you go first.
Will Friedle
Okay.
Honey German
And you have to do it honestly. But how are we gonna do it? I say this week we go one to ten. One being the worst, ten being the best.
Will Friedle
So differently.
Honey German
Give that a shot. Well, here are our options for the week. Do we Want to do 1 out of 10? I want frosted tips. 1 out of 10 boy band. Criss angels. 1 out of 10 pickle heads. 1 out of 10 hottie hots. 1 out of 10 smorgasbord goose livers. 1 out of 10 corn dog smellings. Marie Antoinette heads or 1 out of 10 hockey thang song lyrics. Which one would you like, Sabrina?
Will Friedle
I'm gonna pick this week, and I'm gonna add a bit to it. I think it's gonna be corn dog perv smelly.
Honey German
Yes. We'll be doing 1 out of 10 corn dog perv smellings this week. Thank you, Sabrina. And how many corn dog perv smellings would you give H double hockey sticks? Be honest. You gotta be honest and brutal.
Will Friedle
I know. And you know, I know you think it's. Honestly, I swear, I really do. If even if it was somebody else that was acting this part, I loved this movie. I thought it was so easy to sit back and enjoy. Let me take that back. If it was somebody who did it as well as you did with the character, you really did drive the whole movie front to back. I loved that your character did end up being in. End up being the hero too.
Honey German
Kind of the good guy. Yeah.
Will Friedle
Actually got them that actual win. I loved that. So it was a good, fun movie. You know, I'm so into sports movies. I love them all the time. I thought the way that they did the. The sub ins for the skating was seamless. It didn't seem obvious. It's easier when you have a helmet and all that kind of stuff.
Honey German
Sure, of course.
DJ Dramos
Yeah.
Honey German
Yeah, sure.
Will Friedle
But I thought they did a really good job with that. It's not always we've seen it done not well. So kudos to them and I liked it. I'm giving it an 8.5. Wow. Corn dog perv smells. You might have got a nine had that scene got cut.
Honey German
Wow, 8.5. That is great.
Will Friedle
I'll take 8.5. I was excited to watch this one especially. Cause I knew you and Matt would be on it together and I thought you guys were great with each other and that it was good. There was only a couple things that just kind of were like they didn't need it. But it didn't ruin it at all either with the stuff that was in it.
Honey German
Yeah. I have tried to watch it, you know, critically, which is tough. I know I had a lot going on in my life at the time. I met a new girl. I was the panic attack. So it was a lot. I am just trying to be honest. So I gave it 15 corn dog. I'm kidding. No, I gave. I gave. I was not too far from you. I was. I did a 7.5 corn dog perv smellings. I thought they could have cut some of just me riffing. I thought the beginning was a bit slow. But it was fun and it was a lot of fun. I thought Rhea Perlman was great as the devil. The characters were fun. I thought the supporting characters that had two or three lines were all great.
Will Friedle
Yes.
Honey German
So I went with 7.5 corn dog per smellings. Thank you for the 8.5. I will take that all day long. Thank you everybody for joining us on this H e double hockey sticks journey. Don't forget that we. Well, we'll get to that. Our next movie. First of all, our next movie is a 2012 Disney musical. Uh oh. It is a hip hop retelling of Cyrano de Bergerac from our pal Paul Hoenn. So, hey, Paul, I've got, I've got some. You know, at least I'm confident because Paul Hoen's involved. It's Let It Shine. It is available on Disney to stream. So check that out and get ready for our next dcom episode. But, but until then, we've got quite the Park Hopper episode for you this week. We have obviously mentioned this already, so it's no big surprise, but we're gonna keep the H E H hockey sticks party going and talking to my co star, my less good looking partner in crime, Matt Lawrence. And boy, did we reminisce about the fun we had on this one. Here is just a little taste of that episode. I'm sorry, what did they say when they called you in? What did she say? That. What, he's refusing to rehearse with me? Yes, pretty much. And what was the reason for that? And I'm like, oh, God, no one. No, I just, I wanted to keep it fresh. I'm like, I was, I was, I was embarrassed. I was like, oh, God, I've never had a, I mean, never had on any set ever have I had a run in with another actor in particular. I mean, I had with some directors or some, sure, you know, producers who were trying to push me to do things I didn't want to do. But outside of that, like, I never had. No, you're, you're exceptionally easy to work with. And if you want to hear more, remember to subscribe to our dedicated Magical Rewind feed on Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcast. Don't miss another episode and you can follow us @magicalrewindpod on the Instagram machine right now. Bye, everybody.
Will Friedle
Bye.
Honey German
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Pod Meets World: Episode Summary - "H. E. Double Hockey Sticks"
Release Date: February 12, 2025
In this episode of Pod Meets World, hosted by iHeartPodcasts, Danielle, Will, and Rider delve into the nostalgic world of the 1999 Disney movie "H. E. Double Hockey Sticks". Dedicated to fans of the iconic series "Boy Meets World," the hosts rewatch and dissect every aspect of this cult classic, offering behind-the-scenes insights, memorable moments, and personal anecdotes that resonate with both longtime fans and newcomers alike.
"H. E. Double Hockey Sticks" is a Disney Direct-to-Consumer Movie (DCOM) that takes viewers on a fantastical journey blending sports, supernatural elements, and heartfelt storytelling. The movie follows Griffelkin, an apprentice devil, who is tasked with obtaining the soul of Dave Heinrich, a hotshot hockey player, to graduate from the Beelzebub Vocational Institute.
Direction and Inspiration: Directed by Randall Miller, an acclaimed AFI graduate, the movie draws inspiration from the opera "Griffelkin" by Lucas Faust and Alistair Reed. Originally performed in 1955, the three-act opera provided a highbrow foundation for what would become a 90s Disney fantasy. Despite its operatic roots, the movie adopts a Tim Burton-esque aesthetic, featuring a computer-generated Beelzebub Vocational Institute reminiscent of "Beetlejuice."
Casting and Collaboration:
Special Effects and Filming Techniques: The movie utilizes practical effects combined with early CGI to create visually engaging scenes. Notably, scenes depicting hell and various magical occurrences were achieved using models and miniature sets, a testament to the era's technological constraints and creative ingenuity.
Griffelkin (Honey German): An up-and-coming devil with aspirations to graduate by securing a soul. Honey shares her experience of developing Griffelkin's persona, inspired by the comedic flair of Jim Carrey.
Notable Quote:
"Griffelkin couldn't be more upbeat. He doesn't seem super popular, though." [02:24]
Dave Heinrich (Matthew Lawrence): A talented but selfish hockey player whose ambition makes him an ideal candidate for Griffelkin's mission.
Ms. Beelzebub (Rhea Perlman): The principal of the Beelzebub Vocational Institute, portrayed by Rhea Perlman, adds a formidable presence to the film.
Gabby (Gabrielle Union): Griffelkin's right-hand woman, whose dual role as both helper and antagonist adds complexity to the narrative.
Beginning: The movie opens with Griffelkin's introduction to hell's bureaucratic system, where Ms. Beelzebub assigns him the task of obtaining Dave Heinrich's soul (00:00 - 02:32). The journey kicks off with Griffelkin navigating the human world to find Heinrich, leading to humorous and chaotic encounters.
Middle: Griffelkin's attempts to convince Heinrich are met with skepticism and resistance. Highlights include:
Hockey Matches: Griffelkin manipulates games to demonstrate his powers, leading to Heinrich's team's unexpected success.
Notable Quote:
"If you don't do this, you'll die." [53:43]
Character Development: Dave begins to reflect on his life choices, influenced by Griffelkin's interventions and the looming threat of damnation.
Climax: The tension peaks during the Stanley Cup Finals, where Griffelkin's plan faces unforeseen challenges. The final moments blend supernatural elements with sports drama, culminating in an unexpected twist that redefines the characters' relationships and destinies.
Ending: Ms. Beelzebub's confrontation and Griffelkin's ultimate decision wrap up the narrative, leaving viewers with a mix of resolution and lingering questions about ambition, sacrifice, and redemption (72:42 - 78:35).
Honey German and Will Friedle provide candid assessments of the movie's strengths and weaknesses throughout the episode:
Character Portrayal: Honey praises her own portrayal of Griffelkin and appreciates how Will's character complements hers.
Notable Quote:
"I thought you were gonna keep it going. I was kind of sad when you went back to the regular look because I thought it was like, this is his." [55:06]
Plot and Pacing: While enjoying the overall storyline, the hosts critique certain plot points and pacing issues, such as the abrupt transitions and underdeveloped subplots.
Notable Quote:
"I thought it was better than Godfather 2. Great movie. I know I said, I'm never gonna give a 10, but I don't know. This could be. I'm kidding." [16:52]
Special Effects: Appreciation for the film's practical effects and creative set designs, despite some inconsistencies.
Notable Quote:
"I remember actually shooting this scene. There were no lines for a lot of this movie." [39:09]
Personal Anecdotes: Honey shares personal experiences, such as her mother's love for the film and the challenges she faced while filming, including her first panic attack during a scene (05:57 - 16:19).
At the episode's conclusion, Honey and Will engage in a playful rating segment:
Will Friedle: Rates "H. E. Double Hockey Sticks" an 8.5 out of 10, highlighting its fun aspects and appeal to sports enthusiasts despite some narrative flaws.
Notable Quote:
"I'm giving it an 8.5. That is great." [93:55]
Honey German: Provides a more reserved rating of 7.5 out of 10, citing pacing issues and over-reliance on certain comedic gags but acknowledges the enjoyable performances and character dynamics.
Notable Quote:
"I thought the beginning was a bit slow. But it was fun and it was a lot of fun." [94:48]
Additionally, fan reviews add depth to the discussion:
Unamid: Offers a 5-star review, appreciating the twist on traditional sports narratives.
Jonah F.: Leaves a 1-star review, humorously cryptic in his critique.
This episode of Pod Meets World provides an in-depth exploration of "H. E. Double Hockey Sticks", blending nostalgic appreciation with critical analysis. Danielle, Will, and Rider offer a multifaceted perspective that celebrates the film's charm while acknowledging its imperfections. Whether you're a die-hard fan or a newcomer to the "Boy Meets World" universe, this episode delivers valuable insights and entertaining commentary that enrich your viewing experience.
Honey German on Character Development:
"It's been my raincoat since 1998." [02:32]
Will Friedle on Production Challenges:
"They just brought us up as a package type situation." [06:02]
Honey German on Fashion Choices:
"I had to cut off my choker because it was holding on for dear life." [10:06]
Will Friedle on Plot Pacing:
"The intro was long." [16:19]
Honey German on Improvisation:
"There was a lot of personal stuff going on while I was shooting this movie." [15:35]
Dave's Fate Highlight:
"He dies extremely overweight and choking on goose liver at a smorgasbord." [53:23]
Final Thoughts on Ratings:
"I thought it was better than Godfather 2. Great movie." [16:52]
Tune in Next Episode:
Join Danielle, Will, and Rider as they continue their nostalgic journey with a Park Hopper episode, featuring exclusive interviews with Matt Lawrence and more insights into their shared experiences on set.
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