Loading summary
Jill Winterstein
This is an iHeart podcast, Guaranteed Human.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
Next Monday, our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at south by Southwest.
Will Friedle
This is the biggest night in podcasting.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry.
Sabrina Bryan
And the winner is.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
Creativity, knowledge and passion will all be on full display.
Jill Winterstein
Thank you so much, iheartradio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
Watch live next Monday at 8pm Eastern, 5pm Pacific free@veeps.com or the Veeps app.
Amber Grimes
It's the new me and it's the old them. This Women's History Month. The podcast if you Knew Better with Amber Grimes spotlights women who turn missteps into momentum and lessons into power.
Amber Grimes (Guest)
My, like, tunnel vision of, like, I gotta achieve this was off the strengths of, like, I wanna make a better life for us.
Amber Grimes
If you knew Better brings real talk from women who've lived it, unpacking career pivots, relationship lessons, and the mindset shifts that changed everything. Listen to if youf Knew Better with Amber grimes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Sabrina Bryan
Babes, what are you doing?
Will Friedle
What? I'm just mowing the lawn.
Sabrina Bryan
No, it's blazing hot and dry out here. Don't you remember?
Will Friedle
Smokey Bear says avoid using power equipment when it's windy or dry. Where'd you learn this? Oh, it's on smokeybear.com with many other wildfire prevention tips. Right. Thanks, honey bear. Cause remember, only you can prevent wildfires. Brought to you by the USDA Forest Service, your state forester, and the ad Council.
Heather Dubrow
I'm Heather Dubrow.
Terry Dubrow
And I'm Terry Dubrow.
Heather Dubrow
And we're gonna keep this between us.
Will Friedle
Not really.
Terry Dubrow
The TMZ guy walks up to me, goes, terry, what do you think about Bradley Cooper? They asked him and they said he's not had any plastic surgery.
Will Friedle
But, I mean, what's the latest rumor?
Terry Dubrow
I'm gay, right?
Will Friedle
That the latest rumor?
Jill Winterstein
Yes.
Terry Dubrow
First of all, if I were gay, I would be gay.
Heather Dubrow
Listen to Between Us on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Follow between us and start listening on the free iHeartradio app.
Terry Dubrow
Today on the C Show podcast, each episode invites you into a raw, unfiltered conversations about recovery, resilience and redemption. On a recent episode, I sit down with actor cultural icon Danny Trail. Talk about addiction, transformation and the power of second chances. The entire season two is now available to binge featuring Powerful conversations with the guests like Tiffany Adish, Johnny Knoxville, and more.
Will Friedle
I'm an alcoholic, and without this trope, I'mma die.
Terry Dubrow
Listen to Cino show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
Will Friedle
Sorry, I was gonna start with something very clever, and now I can't get off the. The second cookie pastry debate.
Sabrina Bryan
No, we're not from.
Will Friedle
But we're moving forward, you said. You're right, we're moving forward. Well, I think the best way to move forward is with incredible modern technology. Oh, did you see the transition that I just did?
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
Do you have a. Do you own a robot? Do you have a robot butler?
Sabrina Bryan
No.
Will Friedle
You don't have a fully functional robot butler that takes care of everything?
Sabrina Bryan
Robots kind of scare me. Like, I feel like I would. I mean, I think it's probably just like the devastation of, like, Smart House. Like, it's like you just. You never know when it's gonna be too smart and outsmart you. Like, so those, like, generic things that would make your life easy. Yes. It's like the simple fact that our. The generation now has no idea how to use a Thomas Guide because, you
Will Friedle
know, and a rotary phone or any of this other stuff.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, right. Or even just have the ability to go, okay, I'm gonna make a right on this street, a left on this street, and then a right on this street. Most of them can't remember that kind of stuff because it's so much easier to look down at your phone and get you there. So I'm kind of not really somebody who's ready to jump in to having something like that, like a robot butler or a nanny in your house.
Will Friedle
Are you one of these crazy people, though, that knows north, south, east and west, where it's like, I hit the. I take an. I go north and then once you get to that road, go south. Do you do that?
Sabrina Bryan
I can't do that. I know that either for, like, freeways, like, my route that I do often, like, let's be honest, I've got like a 10 mile diamond, right?
Will Friedle
Yeah, exactly.
Sabrina Bryan
I don't go much farther than that. But, like, so I know the freeways that I go on. I know how to get myself to la. All of those. Those are memorized.
Will Friedle
Sure.
Sabrina Bryan
And when I get off the freeway, I do know at that point if I'm going south or north.
Will Friedle
Oh, God, so you're already ahead of me.
Sabrina Bryan
I do know that. But that's just going the same place over and over again.
Will Friedle
Like, do I take a left or right at the Chick Fil A. Don't tell me. Go north. I don't know what that means.
Sabrina Bryan
I don't. Yes. And it's such an older generation. My dad will be like, oh, yeah, you go north. This. I'm like, dad, that's not helpful. I need a left.
Will Friedle
My dad does that. He also does it with ridiculous, like, location finder things. So I'll be like, okay, on the left, there's a dented sign at that. You're going to want to go north. I'm like, okay, yeah.
Sabrina Bryan
Or. Or like a bus stop. Oh, yeah, Dad, I recognize bus stops. Like, yeah, I know.
Will Friedle
It's crazy. I know. Well, you're missing out on a robot butler. I've got one. And he's.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, how is that? Does it keep all your books and things that are behind you as organized as they always are?
Will Friedle
Organized? All my pops over here organized. And I don't. I'm not scared at all that one day his eyes are going to turn red and he's going to kill me in my sleep because of the three robotic laws. Everybody knows that, Sabrina. Anyway, welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses were smart, the wave, tsunamis, and the high school's musical. I'm Will Friedle.
Sabrina Bryan
And I'm Sabrina Bryan.
Will Friedle
Ooh. Fire up the computer and update your X17 software. We're programming Love for the 2014 Sci Fi Romantic comedy how to Build a Better Boy. It debuted on Disney Channel August 15, 2014. First announced earlier in the summer during the premiere of another dcom. Zapid. That's how I'm saying it from now on. It is zapid. It's zapped. I know the E.D. this one was shot in. Flip the coin. Yes, you guessed it, people. Toronto, Canada. Mostly at the North Toronto Collegiate Institute for just over a month of shoot days, which the place looked gorgeous. The debut drew in a very impressive 4.6 million viewers and included the other debut of Ariana Grande, who everybody knows is the biggest Grande. You can get the biggest Ariana out there. The music video for break free during a commercial break. Do you know break free?
Sabrina Bryan
I don't, but it surprises me because Ariana's the Nickelodeon kid. So what's she doing? Premiering something here on the channel?
Will Friedle
I don't know. Very weird.
Sabrina Bryan
I mean, she's on your own channel.
Will Friedle
Ariana Vente. Come on.
Sabrina Bryan
It's just. It's just Surprising to me because she was.
Will Friedle
Ariana Grande was on Nickelodeon.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes, like a huge show on Nickelodeon. This is when her music career was like, breaking out. But she came from the Nickelodeon channel. So that's what's surprising is that's not. You know, Disney kind of keeps their, their allegiance right with their own kids.
Will Friedle
So she was on a show called Victorious. Geez, I was on Nickelodeon. I've never even heard of these things. Of course, I was on real Nickelodeon. It was the 80s. It's because radio Disney really played a lot of her music. Okay, thank you.
Sabrina Bryan
Okay, thank you. All right, that makes sense.
Will Friedle
I always assume Radio Disney is just the emergency channel for Disney where it's like, oh, this is not a drill. Everybody under your desk. Like, stuff like that. Like, that's always, I thought what Radio Disney was, but apparently it is actually,
Sabrina Bryan
no, it was like a full blown radio station. They brought in all of, like, the up and coming artists for sure. It's, it's, it's sad that it's not around as much anymore.
Will Friedle
Well, you know what? We'll start it over now. Listeners of my generation will recognize this movie as a soft gender swap kids version of the 1985 John Hughes comedy Weird Science, starring Anthony Michael Hall, Kelly LeBrock and Bill Paxton. A movie that, well, a lot of people will say with 2026 goggles might be a little problematic, but I don't give a. I don't want to hear it. It's an amazing movie. Come at me and I will start swinging. It was a big enough movie at the time to spin into a TV sitcom. Have you ever seen Weird Science?
Sabrina Bryan
I have. I actually really liked that movie when I was younger. It was so cool. And again, like just all the, the, the technology that was in, like, those kids, like, bedrooms. That's like, so cool. I, I loved it. But I do get now, even, of course, even today, even, I swear this weekend when I was like, what movie are we watching this week? And then it was how to Build a Better Boy, I went, wow, when was this filmed? Because just the title alone goes so opposite than where we're at in 2026.
Will Friedle
And it makes sense because if they, they never would have made how to Build a Better Girl. Yeah, same year. They never would have done it.
Sabrina Bryan
The fact that they're doing how to Build a Better Boy now is just as, like, what.
Will Friedle
I know everything's problematic when you look back at it 20 years ago. I mean, there's stuff we're doing right now today that seems totally fine. That 20 years from now, your kids are going to be like, I can't believe you ever did that, Mom. For sure, okay? So don't come at me. It's a staple of my childhood. I loved Weird Science. Watch it for what it was, for God's sake.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes, absolutely. And it was a funny. Out of this world.
Will Friedle
It was Anthony Michael hall at his, like, right near his prime. The Sixteen Candles. Anthony Michael hall, another movie that's amazing and of course, problematic. Watch it for what it is, people. Yes. And everyone I know, there's a bunch of people screaming at their radios right now going, that's what we're telling you to do with dcoms. Will watch it for what it is. Watch it for what it is. Hey, touche. I hear you. I'm still not going to change what I said. Say, and as far as dcoms, I'm also quite confident that while developing this movie, Pixel Perfect probably came up a few times since the gist of both of these movies are very similar. So we can admit that this one isn't necessarily original, but frankly, it knows that.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
So with your history of Weird Science, I want to know, before the invention of Magical Rewind, had you heard about how to build a better boyfriend?
Sabrina Bryan
I hadn't. And I have to be honest, too. Even the star characters in this movie were brand new to me. I don't. And I'm sorry if we've actually seen. Seen them before in another movie that we've watched. But I wasn't even really aware of either one of the main two girl characters as far as what show they came from.
Will Friedle
Sabrina. Really? She's in. But she was in who? Descendants 2 and all the movies since.
Sabrina Bryan
Who?
Will Friedle
China Ann McClain. Gabby.
Sabrina Bryan
No.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Sabrina Bryan
What?
Will Friedle
She's Uma.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, she looks so much older and mature. Oh, my God.
Will Friedle
I knew her. Even I knew her right away. I was like, oh, my God, She. She's great. Yeah. Now you're putting it together.
Sabrina Bryan
You loved her now.
Will Friedle
I loved her.
Sabrina Bryan
I did.
Will Friedle
Wow.
Sabrina Bryan
But see, I'm thinking this is a show I've never seen. I'm thinking they're pulling from the channel. Oh, she's so great. I mean, amazing.
Will Friedle
Yeah, we love her.
Sabrina Bryan
She's amazing. But I kept going. I don't even know either one of these girls like. And I. Again, I don't read any of the things that we get. I just watch it. But fresh and. Oh, I love it now. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Okay.
Will Friedle
Knock, knock. Who's there? Never heard of this movie, so it is a joyous day here on magical rewind because this movie is directed by the man himself. Oh, yeah. Da na na na na. He's bad. The Hoenn. Yes, dcom Daddy. The one, the only Paul Hoenn. It's been a minute, but we're thrilled to welcome his name back to the pod.
Sabrina Bryan
And what perfect timing. Zombies 5 just got announced. It's in the works. We've got so many people back, we got new faces. It has been a glorious week.
Will Friedle
Yeah, it's going to be. It's a good dcom week.
Sabrina Bryan
It is.
Will Friedle
Yes. So we're thrilled to have his name back in the pod. He's one of the indisputable architects of the DCOM who currently leads the way on the highly successful Zombies franchise. As we were talking about zombies 5, this time it's personal again. But in the past, directed Cheetah Girls 2, Eddie's Million Dollar Cook off the Luck of the Irish, Jump In, Let It Shine and True Confessions. That's just to name a few. It would be difficult to chisel the dcom Mount Rushmore without needing to study the face of one Paul Ho. That is absolutely correct. And now if you want to build a better boyfriend, you can. It's available to stream right now on Disney, so we suggest watching it with a big bucket of popcorn or a family sized bag of candy, or a humongous jar of pickles, or a burlap sack filled with baby carrots or a lunchbox packed with pomegranate seeds. It's really up to you. But we know you're hungry, so treat yourself and stay healthy. Now jump into your Humvee and fry the motherboard. Let's hear the synopsis. Two tech savvy best friends, May and Gabby, use military software to create Albert, a robotic boyfriend, to fulfill May's wildest dreams, only to discover he's a super soldier. And now they must deal with the authorities to retrieve him. Sabrina, early thoughts on this movie?
Sabrina Bryan
Early thoughts. I'm gonna be honest, it felt like it was going fast for the first. Like, you know, I loved the energy right in the front, like, and I love a movie that's gonna give me kind of what I'm looking for towards the end and then jump ahead. I love the start of a mo. Like, sure, we get where we're going and what the drama ends, like, builds to and then we jump ahead on how we get there. Then from like minute five, six to a good chunk of 15 minutes, I went. It was just going really slow. I mean, we didn't even meet our villains. I think until 30 minutes in, we
Will Friedle
didn't even meet were really villains and
Sabrina Bryan
they weren't really villains. So it was, it was a little slow towards the end. I was like, all right, I'm hooked. Like, I, I once it got ro stolen for me, I was hooked. I thought it was like you said, like, I, of course it gave me all the like, nostalgia for me of Weird Science, you know? So I was kind of like, I like this spin on it. I liked it better than Pixel Perfect. And I was kind of starting to create like somewhat compare it to the things that we've seen so far. But at the beginning it got, it was like, oh, yes. And then it like. And it slowed down for me for a little bit and then it finally picked up speed.
Will Friedle
I kind of agree. I thought it was okay. I think this movie was a decent concept that needed a massive rewrite.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, really?
Will Friedle
Yeah. A lot of the story made no sense. A lot of the character arcs made no sense. The villains were absolutely pointless. Even the military turned out to be pointless. Like a lot of it. We'll get into it. But it was, it was strange for me. It wasn't bad. I thought all the acting was good. It looked great. It looked like a $50 million budget. I mean, they did a lot that I thought was really good, but I think it needed a rewrite. The story.
Sabrina Bryan
There was a couple of things and it got to me. OB we'll get there. We say it so much, but like when we got to the football game, I was like, wait, now there's like a football, a big football game on the line. Like there it started to get a little bit like, where. What's the end result of where we're going?
Will Friedle
Yeah, no, there's a lot like that, but yeah. The movie stars China and McLean as Gabby. China's career began at a very young age, appearing in Adam Sandler's Grown Ups movies. Then she turned into a Disney Channel favorite in shows like Jonas, Wizards of Waverly Place, Doc McStuffins and Ant Farm, which she was the star of Better Boys was her first dcom. But since then she went on to play Uma in Descendants 2, unbeknownst to Sabrina and all the resulting movies. What an absolute miss outside of the channel. She also played Jasmine payne on almost 200 episodes of House of Pain and Jennifer Pierce in Black Lightning. And then Kelly Bergland plays her best friend May. Berglund began her career alongside the Aughts version of Barney Hip Hop Harry. Have you heard of Hip Hop Harry. No, me neither. But now I gotta watch it. Berglund is an impressive dancer who would later be cast as Brie Davenport on the Disney XD show Lab Rats and appeared on the Goldbergs and the wrestling drama Heels. Marshall Williams is Albert, the boyfriend of Tomorrow. The Canadian local has been in a ton of Christmas movies. It looks like he was built for Christmas movies. That's the guy who's the hometown guy that the girl always goes back to leaves Big City guy for. Including the I love these titles. The Jingle Bell Jubilee, A Sprinkle of Christmas and the upcoming Cowgirl for Christmas. Matt Shively plays Bart. Matt was a star over on the other kids channel. We were just talking about Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick. Nickelodeon. That was what it was when I was on it on the show true JacksonVP. But you may also recognize him from Jesse. Paranormal Activity 4, Santa Clarita Diet or most recently, he played Quentin on the sitcom Lopez vs Lopez and he was very funny. And Ashley ar Goda is Nevaeh, which is heaven backwards. Ashley is a vet in the kids TV genre, appearing in so many classics including Icarly Bucket and Skinner's Epic Adventures, Austin and Ally and Girl Meets World. But you may know her as one of Matt Shively's co stars on True Jackson vp or from her time with Kelly Bergland in Lab Rat. So they all knew each other.
Sabrina Bryan
That's cool.
Will Friedle
And before his recent glow up we get Noah Centineo as Jaden. We now all know Noah as Peter in the hit movie franchise. To all the boys I've loved before,
Sabrina Bryan
you have no idea what that is, but it's so good.
Will Friedle
But he was also in the Bad Charlie's Angels 2019 reboot, the TV show the Fosters and the kids program Jesse. Now his career has a ton of buzz and he's in like a dozen movies coming out, including some very incredible projects like Gundam with Sydney Sweeney, Street Fighter, where he's going to be playing Ken. Yes. And oh, my childhood heart, he'll be John Rambo in the upcoming Rambo prequel.
Sabrina Bryan
Rambo likes.
Will Friedle
Is it like Stallone? Yeah, when I started.
Sabrina Bryan
Wow. Good for him.
Will Friedle
Now. Now we're doing a prequel about when I was a kid. So if they're building a better boy, why not build a better movie? And we all know if you're looking for perfection on screen, it is 90 minutes more, no less. So what did this dcom clock in at?
Sabrina Bryan
I'm gonna guess it's real close because it's our boy Paul he knows he does.
Will Friedle
And it's 89 minutes one off the target. But as always, you can depend on the great Mr. Hoen himself, Daddy Paul, for speedy storytelling. So we appreciate being below and not above 90 and we're gonna forget the one minute and move on without any judgment. As for the script, it was written by Jason Maland. Jason was a writer and producer of the reality competition show Wipeout, as well as the Jeff Dunham show and Disney Junior's Eureka. This was actually his only movie.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
Next Monday, our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at south by Southwest.
Will Friedle
This is the biggest night in podcasting.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry.
Sabrina Bryan
And the winner is.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
Creativity, knowledge and passion will all be on full display.
Jill Winterstein
Thank you so much iheartradio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
Watch live next Monday at 8pm Eastern, 5pm Pacific free@veeps.com or the Veeps app.
Jill Winterstein
Hi, this is Jill Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a
Sabrina Bryan
mini driver, the Irish traveler said when I was 16.
Will Friedle
You're gonna have a terrible time with
Jill Winterstein
actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives and I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are Misunderstood a sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership.
Sabrina Bryan
He really has taught me to embrace
Will Friedle
people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an
Jill Winterstein
embracing of the isness of it all. If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast.
Amber Grimes
It's the new me and it's the old them.
Sabrina Bryan
Everybody's on their journey and your journey
Amber Grimes (Guest)
is different to theirs.
Amber Grimes
This woman's History Month the podcast if you knew better with Amber Grimes spotl flights women who turn missteps into momentum and lessons into power.
Amber Grimes (Guest)
I think coming out of where I came from, I'm from the Bronx. I think I grew up really poor. I didn't know that then because I very much use my creativity to romanticize life and I'm like, my mom did a really good job of like, you step back and you're like, whoa.
Will Friedle
We.
Amber Grimes (Guest)
I don't know how we made it. So a lot of my life was like built out of like survival to get to the next place. Like my drive, my like tunnel vision of like, I gotta be better, I gotta achieve this was off the strengths of like, I wanna make a better life for us.
Amber Grimes
If youf Knew Better brings real talk from women who've lived it, unpacking career pivots, relationship lessons, and the mindset shifts that changed everything. Listen to if youf Knew Better with Amber grimes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Heather Dubrow
Almost 30 years together, four kids and some of reality TV's most unforgettable moments. We know a thing or two about living life out loud. We're taking you behind the scenes in our new podcast Between Us with me,
Terry Dubrow
Heather Dubrow and me, Terry debrow. Between Us isn't about perfect lighting or curated Instagram grids.
Heather Dubrow
It's the unfiltered behind closed doors conversations you wish you could eavesdrop on. Equal parts smart, funny and a little bit scandalous.
Terry Dubrow
Every week, Heather will bring you an unapologetic take on the headlines, the trends, and the cultural moments everyone's texting about.
Heather Dubrow
And Terry will deliver insider beauty, health and wellness insights you won't find on TikTok.
Terry Dubrow
Together, we'll tell the stories, spill the secrets, and share the hacks that keep life, marriage, and everything in between feeling fresh and fun.
Heather Dubrow
We may live in a gated community, but there's zero gatekeeping here and plenty
Terry Dubrow
of did they just say that? Moments.
Heather Dubrow
Listen to between us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Will Friedle
Before we had AT&T business Wireless coverage, our delivery GPS wasn't the most reliable. Once our driver had to do a 14 point turn to get back on route. A 14 point turn. An influencer even livestream the whole thing. Not good for business. Now with AT&T business Wireless, routes are updating on the fly and deliveries are on time. And the influencer did get us 53 new followers though. AT&T business Wireless Connecting changes everything. So now apply chapstick and prep for the big moonlight dance. A kiss is on the horizon, as is the breakdown of how to build a better boy. We open in Washington, D.C. military humvees Speed through the streets. Sirens a blazing. Floodlights are blown out as soldiers scale fences and rappel from the roof. It's an emergency and an expensive one. You could tell the budget going right in. Eventually, a decorated general and a frazzled doctor exit an suv. He announces that the fugitives are on site. Even the President is interested in what's going on because they've lost track of a $3 billion weapon. They're ready to get the world's most dangerous criminals. But the Doctor, who's related to one of these heartless criminals, is hoping to talk them out of it. The general is hell bent on doing whatever it takes to get them into custody. And then these heartless thugs reveal themselves. They are two teenage girls and the Doctor is one of their dads. They surrender with their hands up. And that's how we start how to build a better boy. Exciting.
Sabrina Bryan
I thought it was. Yeah, it was one of the things. Yes. That I was gonna say in the beginning too. This is probably the most adults we've like, almost ever seen in a dcom. And it all happens within the first two seconds.
Will Friedle
Exactly. Exactly. Like in.
Sabrina Bryan
And you're just like, holy cow, there's so many adults happening right now.
Will Friedle
Yep.
Sabrina Bryan
Normally it's kid friend. It's like all kid loaded. Loaded. And it's like, whoa. But I did. It was like a lot of energy. We really haven't seen no much of this. Kind of like it was a good
Will Friedle
way to start the movie.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes. Stealing from walls. They're jumping over fences. I was like, oh, hell yeah. This is cool. I love it.
Will Friedle
It was. It was. It started very well. And then we get something we've never seen in a dcom. We get quick shots of the main characters bedrooms during the credits. Oh, I'm kidding. It's something we see all the time. Lets us know who they are. And this time, the shots tell us that the girls that we just saw, Gabby and May, are bestie FF. What does that mean?
Sabrina Bryan
BFFs besties forever.
Will Friedle
Okay. But it's not besties FF. Didn't just Jensen make that up? Yeah. Okay.
Sabrina Bryan
I think it's like besties for the resties is what Monroe says with her bestie.
Will Friedle
Oh, my God.
Sabrina Bryan
Or bff.
Will Friedle
Or friends until the boy comes between them. Yeah, that's what it really should be. Okay, so they're besties forever. It is now two days earlier, we have a little bit of a flashback. They are at school. Gabby and May have finished their senior calculus test in just nine minutes. And since they're just sophomores, this frustrates and concerns the teacher. But the girls are very confident. They nailed it. They're geniuses. And the Other students bully them for ruining the curve. They call them nerds. The brainiac overachievers don't seem to care and have places to go anyway. And this is when I was like, oh, these are two gorgeous kids who just happen to be wearing glasses.
Sabrina Bryan
No, not only that, who have the eye. This is one of my spirities. I think this is going to be something that I'm going to be saying sprinkling myself. Brida sees throughout. Their wardrobe is so cute. The two of them look far more put together than anyone else in the school. Everyone else's costuming, including the other characters, is pretty basic and boring. These two girls have the cutest style and, like, their glasses aren't even, like, nerdy. They're like, cool glasses. Like, I was like, I should get some glasses like that. I need a new pair of glasses. And I was like, I like her little blue with the up little cat eye.
Will Friedle
Really smart, really pretty, funny. Girls who are dressed hip are the nerds of the school that nobody likes.
Sabrina Bryan
I know the wardrobe lady was, like, so good and, like, a certain aspect, but did not pull off the. Like, I need to see more. Like, if they're wanting to. If they're supposed to be kind of the boring not seeing girls, I needed them to be wearing neutrals. Browns.
Will Friedle
Exactly.
Sabrina Bryan
Black.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Sabrina Bryan
You know, just muted, muted, Muted colors. Yeah.
Will Friedle
They look like they stepped right out of Clueless. They look like the cool girls. And it was like, these are the girl. Like, way to go, nerd. I'm like, she's a 10 on any scale. What the hell are you talking about?
Sabrina Bryan
Turning around. They should have been so sassy back to him. Like, okay, loser.
Will Friedle
Yeah, I mean, it was. This is what I was like, really? We're not. Now we're not even trying to go for the. At least in, like, what, not 10 things I hate about you, but she's the man. Or any of these kind. It was like, at least they put Rachel Leigh Cook. They tried to dress her down. She's in, like, overalls and her hair's a mess.
Sabrina Bryan
Big old wig.
Will Friedle
And this time they went. And we're not even going to try. We're going to get the cutest, hippest girls. We can put glasses on them, but someone's going to call them nerds. Like, wow, you're not even attempting to hide this anymore.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, it was ridiculous. At the same time, the only thing that did work later on is the storyline, which was actually kind of a cool swing on the nerd of the school. So I did like that.
Will Friedle
Okay, yeah, this didn't work for me at all. But anyway, the brainiac overachievers don't seem to care because they're the coolest people in school and have places to go anyway. May is tutoring and Gabby is working on healthier choices in the cafeteria. Now in the library, May tutors the star hug QB Jaden, and she's obviously smitten with him. She successfully relates football to difficult math while being flirty. And he mentions homecoming. She pretends she hasn't been thinking about it. When he asks if she's going to the dance, she says her and Gabby will make a last minute decision. Jaden encourages her to go because she never knows what she'll miss. Later at lunch, May tells Gabby she can't believe it, but Jaden may actually like her. And yeah, he kind of made it a little obvious that he wants a really, really pretty hip girl who's very smart, weird. Then like a real hater. Gabby says he's only using her for her math help. But May isn't sold. They had a moment and it felt like he was going to ask her to the dance. Gabby, on the other hand, has accepted they are never going to be popular, but okay. The really cute girl looks at the other really cute girl and goes, ah. No one's going to like does but have the brains that will make them important later in life. And boys are just a distraction. Now in the halls before their next class, popular girl Nevaeh it's just Heaven Backwards is campaigning for homecoming queen while Gabby returns the principal's laptop. She fixed it for him just in time for his online tango lessons. And then the unthinkable happens. Jaden texted May unprovoked.
Sabrina Bryan
Ah.
Will Friedle
He wrote with mostly misspelled words which I didn't understand. If at the end he turns out to be a genius, okay to meet him after practice. He has an important question. May is thrilled, but Nevaeh overhears the whole situation and appears furious. On the football field, Jaden is in the middle of drills. When the girls arrive, he waves to May and yeah, this was probably not the best time to bring your best friend with you. Like Gabby probably shouldn't have been there, real cramping, third wheel style. But anyway, they neither of them understood that when the guy obviously likes her, says he wants to meet her later, that he liked her and wanted to meet her later. That and that's what I just. I'm sorry. I know I harp on stuff like this, but it takes me out of it. Because it's such an easy fix to dress them down and then have her progress as the movie progress, as if she needs to change, but quote unquote, progress as the movie to become more confident, to become wearing better clothes, to be. Instead, they start her as this cool, incredible girl who's shocked that anyone likes her. Her. I mean, they even make it where she doesn't have any friends except for May and Gabby are like, they're all we have. And it's like, are you, are you kidding me? With these two incredibly hip, good looking girls. It just, it, it infuriates me when they don't take the extra step of just dress her down, put her hair in a bun, you know, make it to where there's such nerds that they keep destroying. Like the second they walk into class, the whole class goes, oh God no. You're gonna destroy the curve. Like build into it. But they don't. They just want us to assume, I mean, someone says nerd that they're nerds. That's it.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah. I do think though the part of like the outfits is more so that they're like funky. They're different because I know you're cool
Will Friedle
and hip in that stuff.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes. But like, they're funky and like, not everyone's into that. Like, everyone being very basic. Like, I'm telling you right now, if that outfit was worn at the high school that I coach at, they would get weird eyes because they wouldn't be kids that really like to blend. They do. They don't. As much as it's standing out, there's a super pretty girl that stands out. Most of them like to blend. They don't really wear like, it's, it's kind of a teenage thing. So the fact that these two girls have these like kind of quirky style that totally works and is super cute when you have the maturity to be able to see it that way versus, like, what are you doing wearing like, like so much color when like everyone
Will Friedle
else, like jeans and tanks, such clueless vibes. And they were like, the cool kids include.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, so, so cool. But nobody dresses like clueless either, like that out of this world. Super. I mean, not, not right now, in 20, in 2000 and like the late 90s and 2000s for sure. So that's coming.
Will Friedle
This could have been cool in 2014.
Sabrina Bryan
I think it's still kind of too much for like the high school kids that like, I don't know.
Will Friedle
But it didn't, it didn't play for me. But anyway, anyway. But before anything can escalate, here comes Nevaeh again and her gang of mean girls. She pretends to be surprised, running into Gabby and May, and quickly deflates her Jaden balloon as the whole school has now circled around them like you do. Nevaeh points out that Jaden is in a totally different social radar and she's going with him, her boyfriend for 17 whole days, to the dance. Everyone seems to know this fact, but the school geniuses who don't know that. Then, just in time, Jane runs over In a rather ballsy move, Nevaeh makes sure he's asking her to the dance and though hesitant, he agrees. She rubs it in May's face and Jaden explains his question for her was about quadratic functions. This is embarrassing. And Gabby turned out to be right all along. But as the bully is walking away, May finds the confidence to stand up for herself. She claims she already has a boyfriend anyway. He's a total hot burger and his name is Albert. He's varsity in five sports, a genius, and works with endangered orphan animals. When Nevaeh asks when they can meet this Albert, May explains he lives in Alaska. And everyone quickly catches on this dude clearly doesn't exist. Nevaeh laughs it off and walks away. With the school day over, classmates continue to ridicule May about her new boyfriend. She has no idea why she lied. And then May's goofy brother Bart, who was very funny, arrives in his new unmarked taxi to drive them home. This is my favorite line of the whole thing. She's like, hey, my uncle had a car like this. Really? When? When he drove a taxi. Now at home, May knows her days are cooked. Gabby wonders how they'll pull this off and assumes she'll just have to come clean and be taunted for all of eternity. She thought Jaden was different, but Gabby says he's just like all the rest of the boys. But she has an idea. What if they invent a better boy? An interactive virtual one? Gabby spent the summer learning how to code, and May's dad creates the coolest video game characters in the world, so his software must be off the chain. So they're going to hack into his network and get data for a high dead deaf boyfriend. They know it's insane, but it's better than letting Nevaeh win. So they agree to keep it a secret from May's dad and have a sleepover to work on it. Sabrina, is this the most far fetched dcom plot we've seen at this point? I.
Sabrina Bryan
At this point what? It's almost as far fetched as like the dad nap. Like,
Will Friedle
what's happening?
Sabrina Bryan
But it's so. Because this is the thing. What I needed was just a little bit more information. Okay, so you're gonna create a online somehow Persona.
Will Friedle
To what end?
Sabrina Bryan
Do what?
Will Friedle
Right?
Sabrina Bryan
To do. To do what? Like, to, to be able to like, respond. Is he gonna be able to call her on the phone somehow do like a facetiming thing? Like, I just needed more of like, what is the plan? Besides, you're just creating something.
Will Friedle
Yeah. For What? I agree 100%. Like, for what purpose are you doing?
Sabrina Bryan
Because it wasn't like what we end up seeing it. It wasn't like, oh, he's gonna like, like, what is he gonna do? You're gonna create him to do what, right? To do what, right? That was the only thing, like, I kind of got stuck here going, okay, I'm not sure what the plan.
Will Friedle
Right. See again, you get to, you get, you go back to something like Weird Science, which I know is problematic, but the two boys, the two teenage boys in the 80s essentially created the most beautiful woman to have sex with her. That was kind of the plot and then the joke and the whole point was when they then had the opportunity, they couldn't, they chickened out. They couldn't do it. They could. Obviously they can't do that with this story.
Sabrina Bryan
Right?
Will Friedle
However, why are you creating the fake boyfriend? Is it so. Oh, well, that's the thing is we get to then flood the school's website with emails that have leaked from him about how much he loves me. Or we can fake pictures of the two of us together. Like, what are. What's the point?
Sabrina Bryan
Right? And how. Yes, exactly. What's the point? And because also, like, she goes in on while we're doing this, this like big kiss that she wants to do, but it doesn't seem like they're actually trying to actually like Weird Science. You knew they were trying to create
Will Friedle
a robot build a girl, right?
Sabrina Bryan
This was like, like, you're gonna create like a Instagram profile page.
Will Friedle
Right? You need a summer of coding to make a catfish page.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, that's what it was. Kind of like not. I wasn't sure because it didn't actually say in detail that they're going to go to the extreme to actually try to laboratory make something.
Will Friedle
Well, right, because they didn't know they were doing. They didn't know.
Sabrina Bryan
They didn't even know they had. They. Yes. So it kind of got a little muffled for me here when I went, okay, wait and this is at the part two. That was starting to get long for me because I'm like, I'm not getting any answers. I'm not quite understanding. I think it's coming soon. But yeah, this is a little bit of a slower part of the movie for me, 100%.
Will Friedle
Either way, Gabby assures her friend, it's not like this is a Department of Defense issue. And then we get a beautiful pod meets world, boy meets world. Optical floor flip to the Department of Defense speeding to a quote unquote secret laboratory, which is the Superior Gaming building. The General from earlier has arrived and quickly meets up with the doctor from the standoff. Who's May's dad. The angry general wants to see what the government has been paying him for. And so we find ourselves in a complex lab with robots and smoking machines. It's the Future birthplace of X17, the first ever covert robotic operative. If May's dad gets the go ahead from the President, he will make history. And so with that, he gets the thumbs up, and the project has truly begun. Back in May's room, Gabby is finding it difficult to hack into her dad's computer. Everything is protected. But Gabby is still very optimistic about their plans. Albert will not only be 3D, but he'll be 3 delicious. So he'll be 3D on the computer?
Sabrina Bryan
I guess that's what I'm thinking.
Will Friedle
Okay.
Sabrina Bryan
Not 3D in person. They never make it seem like he's actually gonna be at school with her.
Will Friedle
It's like, I'm pretty sure that pops up at the end where she gets zapped. They think maybe can interact with the guy somehow.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
So it would have been nice. I, I 2014. Stuff like. I don't think FaceTime and stuff like that existed. Yes, so it did in 2014. You could FaceTime in 2014.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
Really?
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
You could FaceTime 12 years ago?
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
Oh, God.
Sabrina Bryan
I didn't know that there was it facetime was like its own app. It wasn't ne. I think it was like, at least, at least on the computer or like on like an iPad of some sort. It wasn't necessarily for your phone just yet, I don't think.
Will Friedle
Okay, then they should have explained that. That way what we can do is we can use him to. He can call you and people can see him and all, but they didn't
Sabrina Bryan
do any of that stuff that they didn't have that. So I was confused. And then I started to go, oh, gosh. Yeah, I don't understand what's going on. I don't Know how to keep up.
Will Friedle
Rules. It's the rules, people.
Sabrina Bryan
The rules. The rules. I need them so terribly.
Will Friedle
Thank you. I'm glad that I've infected you and you need the rules now all the time. It makes me so happy that I've ruined you movies for you. And just like that though, a few clicks here, a few taps there, and they are now into their dad's mainframe. They connect to Superior Gaming and load everything up for a prototype creation. Which I guess is just a coincidence because that's also what May's dad is working on for the government. This is incredible luck, but hey, it happens. It happens. So as the girls dig into this makeup of Albert, we see the Superior Gaming Lab is also hard at work. This boyfriend will be an American high schooler with a studly athletic build. He'll be tall with blonde hair and blue eyes. And he won't even know how cute he is. He'll also be so polite, he'll almost be Canadian. Sensitive, brave, honest and intuitive. The perfect homecoming date for the perfect homecoming kiss. As they input all this data, the dream boy, once a stark white AI robot, now starts to be built in real life. And with that, the face of Albert appears on Gabby's screen. And he is a hunk o mad. I just made that up. But that's what he is. He's a good looking chap. He says hello to May and reaches out to hold her hand through the screen. As she reciprocates, an actual spark flies from the laptop, throwing her to the ground. And at the Superior Lab, it's time for the final fabrication sequence. So dude's being built. The girls notice that all the electronics in the house have been blown out. And when Gabby goes to see what happened, she runs into Bart. He knows they've trespassed into his dad's office and says he'll keep their little escapade secret if she goes with him to homecoming. And this is now the second time we've noticed that he's got quite a thing.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes, he does. It's cute. It's cute.
Will Friedle
They are a cute couple. She immediately says no, calls, dances. A front for the corsage industry, which was great. But just then, May's dad pulls up and Gabby must make an instant decision. She says yes to Bart as fast as she can and then runs back into the office. Back at Superior Gaming, the build process is complete. And we get the famous shot, which I knew was coming, of the hand coming out of the water. You knew that was going to happen. And the Once plastic AI Robot has turned into something that looks exactly like a real human being, the prototype sprints out of the lab and right out of the building. At the same time, May's dad walks into the house and is greeted by his son Bart, who's distracting him from the office. Since his mom is out of town, he wants to chillaxify and vegetize with some hot tea. While his dad's distracted by smooth jazz and a little water fountain, he dozes off and falls asleep in his recliner. This finally gives Bart some time to see what's going on in the office, which does not look good. This finally gives Bart some time to see what's going on in the office, which does not look good. Gabby explains what they've done, and Bart knows it's bad news, but he'll keep his word and help fix the burnt motherboard. So the next day, when May's dad wakes up from whatever he put in his tea, Bart has stayed up all night working, and the girls are just leaving for school. But before the doctor can notice anything is wrong, he gets an emergency call from the military general funeral. There's been an incident at the lab, and he has to get there asap. And at school, Nevaeh, which is Sabrina Evan backwards.
Sabrina Bryan
Although is it really spelled like this with the. It's N E V E A. Okay. I just want to make sure that that wasn't like him, that he was being stupid at that point, like, going okay, backwards.
Will Friedle
Nevaeh still thinks it's a fake profile and dares them to prove her wrong. And just then, an orange Lamborghini pulls up, and the hottest dude ever, robot Albert in a teal leather jacket has arrived. He tosses his keys, and Jaden catches them like some sort of valet. May announces it's him, and neither Gabby or Nevaeh believe what they're seeing. Okay, A. Where did he get the car? Did he just go steal a $290,000 Lamborghini? That's my question. That's one. One, two. They're like, wow, that's him. Shocking. There it was. Like, don't you think there should have been something bigger for this guy they created on their computer, showing up at school in a Lamborghini? Like, to me, it was just kind of like, wow, how did this. I don't know. It just seemed like it should have been something bigger when he shows up.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes. Yes. I mean, because again, although there's confusion of what they were expecting this Albert to be, I certainly did not think that they were Honestly thinking they were going to get a real live form of Albert. So that's where it would be. The shock and awe of like, like touching him. Like, yeah, you're like a real. Like, I can touch it. What's going on right now?
Will Friedle
Neither of the girls should have spoken broken at all. They should have sat their mouth agape. He should have walked up and.
Sabrina Bryan
And done all the talking.
Will Friedle
Yes. And been like, I know you're so surprised I'm here. I told you I was coming from Alaska. I know. I told you I was coming tomorrow. Like, he should have been so perfect that he literally tells. Yeah. Knew how to handle what's going on and pulls her into a hug and whispers like, play along or something like that.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes. Which he does at some point when he talks about love and all that. And the, the. What is it. It. The one. You know, he does do some of that, but I think he could have leaned into it a little bit more.
Will Friedle
And they missed. Missed a huge chance of comedy of just the two of them staring at him, mouth to gape, not being able to speak, and him, like, taking over for, hey, I know I. I freaked you out. Like, so many ways to have done it, but this. I just didn't think it was a big enough. I mean, the guy they invented on their computer just showed up at their, at their house or their. Their school with a $300,000 automobile, and it's like, nobody is saying. And they're like, wow, it's him. So. Yeah, it was.
Sabrina Bryan
And also, by the way, this question, and I'm gonna get it into Sabrina sees, like, how old are these two girls supposed to be?
Will Friedle
They said sophomore, so 15. And he's supposed to be 17, which is why they called it the X17.
Sabrina Bryan
Okay.
Will Friedle
I'm convinced that's why it was the X17. So he's supposed to be 17. They're supposed to be 15. That's my guess, anyway, is what I thought, because they said sophomores. I think sophomores are 15. So I figured he's supposed to be a senior, quote, unquote, and they're supposed to be sophomores.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, that didn't. That didn't play off to me as much.
Will Friedle
What did you think? They were younger and he was older. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Yeah, gotcha.
Sabrina Bryan
That was like, the fact that he had that car. Now, you go to, like, a private school that is very. Well, like, I'm sure in some areas that's what.
Will Friedle
But like, like a 300, 000 Lamborghini in high school. No way.
Sabrina Bryan
Not at 300, 000. Do you think that car was really would have been like. Well, yeah, but there are some, some schools are like, these kids are driving crazy. It's not. I don't think it's right. I think not. It's not my business, but. Oh, I'll make it very scary to have someone driving that fast of a car. Right. It's not just that, but it's.
Will Friedle
It's also. You gotta. If something's just given to you, it's not the same as earning it.
Sabrina Bryan
No. So you always like, at least get an offender bender with your first car. Like your first, like couple years.
Will Friedle
You scratch your first car. Did you get into a fender bender? Did you.
Sabrina Bryan
My first car within like months of.
Will Friedle
Did you really? Oh, Sabrina.
Sabrina Bryan
But it wasn't like I was driving fast. I was in the line and I sne. I was on a hill. We were in the line going to, to the, the busy street, going to my school, my high school. And I sneezed and my foot went off the brake and I legitimately rolled into the car in front of me.
Will Friedle
Sneezing accident.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes. And the, the. It was a like a 4Runner and it had one of those like bulb things, those like hitch trailer things in that. And I had a Mustang and it went just, I mean right up. The airbags went off.
Will Friedle
Oh my God. Your first car was a Mustang.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes, We've talked about this. I know, but I still know. I know. I was so lucky. I loved that first car and I,
Will Friedle
I still have mine. I still have my first car.
Sabrina Bryan
I freaking. Oh, God.
Will Friedle
Within months.
Sabrina Bryan
Within months. Within months.
Will Friedle
Yeah. No, I still have my first car,
Sabrina Bryan
but my kids are not getting a brand new car.
Will Friedle
My 86 Celica still have it anyway.
Sabrina Bryan
That's pretty cool.
Will Friedle
Yes. So they can't believe what they're seeing. Albert walks right up to May and says hi. He says his dad got transferred from Washington D.C. and calls Nevaeh friend number 82. He has a very immature mechanical quality to him and says he's not dating May. It's more than dating. She's the one. It's like being alive for the first time with that the entire female student body is enamored with him and wants to take him to the registrar's office to check in. Sabrina, I ask you this all the time. Is this the guy that would have been on your wall?
Sabrina Bryan
You've now met Jordan. And definitely Jordan looks a lot more like this guy than like. Yes. Yeah.
Will Friedle
Okay. Yeah, this is. I can, I can get Even I was like, ooh, dreamy. Like,
Sabrina Bryan
definitely looked older. Had more of an older.
Will Friedle
He looked like he was 40. He did.
Sabrina Bryan
He looked like he was like probably early 20s. Like he had a different bill. He had a gorgeous smile. His eyes were incredible. I mean, like this kid. There was nothing. He looked like baby Jordan to me.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
He did.
Sabrina Bryan
I was like, ah, I get it, girls. I get it. I. I couldn't resist it either.
Will Friedle
Wow. I love that.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, he did. He did. But I. That's not who I dated in high school, though. No.
Will Friedle
Did you more dated the. The quarterback like Jordan?
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Okay. I. Between the two girls, I think the ones I dated in high school were more like none of them because I didn't date in high school because I. No one liked me. Which is true. With that, by the way, the entire female student body is enamored with him. They wanted to take him to the registrar's office to check in. Now alone, May and Gabby don't know what to do because, yeah, they created someone. Over at Superior Gaming. May's dad has arrived and has no idea who broke in. The general explains, this wasn't a break in, it was an escape. Someone hacked into the servers and assembled the first ever X17. As scary as that sounds, May's dad is actually thrilled it worked. He officially made an Android, but the prototype is now at large and this is a national emergency.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
Next Monday, our 2026 iHeart Podcast Awards are happening live at south by Southwest.
Will Friedle
This is the biggest night in podcasting.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
We'll honor the very best in podcasting from the past year and celebrate the most innovative talent and creators in the industry.
Sabrina Bryan
And the winner is.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
Creativity, knowledge and passion will all be on full display.
Jill Winterstein
Thank you so much, iheartradio. Thank you to all the other nominees. You guys are awesome.
iHeart Podcast Announcer
Watch live next Monday at 8pm Eastern, 5pm Pacific free@veeps.com or the Veeps app.
Jill Winterstein
Hi, this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.
Will Friedle
The Irish traveler said when I was 16. You're going to have a terrible time with men.
Jill Winterstein
Actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom, loving and different perspectives. And I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are misunderstood. A sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership.
Sabrina Bryan
He really has taught me to embrace
Will Friedle
people sleeping in different rooms on different houses in different places, but just an
Jill Winterstein
embracing of the isness of it all. If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast Podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast.
Amber Grimes
It's the new me and it's the old them.
Sabrina Bryan
Everybody's on their journey and your journey
Amber Grimes (Guest)
is different to theirs.
Amber Grimes
This Woman's History Month the podcast if you Knew Better with Amber Grimes spotlights women who turn missteps into momentum and lessons into power.
Amber Grimes (Guest)
I think coming out of where I came from, I'm from the Bronx. I think I grew up really poor. I didn't know that then because I very much use my creativity to romanticize life and I'm like, my mom. Mom did a really good job of like, you step back and you're like, whoa. We. I don't know how we made it so a lot of my life was like built out of like survival to get to the next place. Like my drive, my like tunnel vision of like, I gotta be better, I gotta achieve this was off the strengths of like, I want to make a better life for us.
Amber Grimes
If you KNEW Better brings real talk from women who've lived it, unpacking career pivots, relationship lessons, and the mindset shifts that changed everything. Listen to if youf Knew Better with Amber grimes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Heather Dubrow
Almost 30 years together, four kids, and some of reality TV's most unforgettable moments. We know a thing or two about living life out loud. We're taking you behind the scenes in our new podcast, Between Us with me,
Terry Dubrow
Heather Dubrow, and me, Terry debrow. Between Us isn't about perfect lighting or curated Instagram grids.
Heather Dubrow
It's the unfiltered behind closed doors conversations you wish you could eavesdrop on. Equal parts smart, funny, and a little bit scandalous.
Terry Dubrow
Every week, Heather will bring you an unapologetic take on the headlines, the trends, and the cultural moments everyone's texting about.
Heather Dubrow
And Terri will deliver insider beauty, health and wellness insights you won't find on TikTok.
Terry Dubrow
Together, we'll tell the story stories, spill the secrets, and share the hacks that keep life, marriage, and everything in between feeling fresh and fun.
Heather Dubrow
We may live in a gated community, but there's zero gatekeeping here and Plenty
Terry Dubrow
of did they just say that? Moments.
Heather Dubrow
Listen to between us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Sabrina Bryan
Welcome to Dirty Rush, the truth about sorority life, the good, the bad, and
Jill Winterstein
the sisterhood with your hood Me, Gia Giudice, Daisy Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Rush. The recruitment, the ritual, the reality of
Will Friedle
Greek life has been a mystery for
Jill Winterstein
those outside the sorority circles until now. Is it really a supportive sisterhood that's simply misunderstood, or is there something more scandalous happening on campuses across the country? In this podcast, we pledge to peel back the layers and spell the truth one Greek letter at a time.
Sabrina Bryan
Pledges and and actives, Rush chairs and ritual keepers. Some call it the best time of
Jill Winterstein
their life, while others say it's a nightmare.
Will Friedle
From a perfect rush to recruitment scandals, what is really going on behind the doors of those sorority houses from Alpha to Omega?
Jill Winterstein
We're taking you inside sorority row, including the chapter room, as we explore the fellowship and the frenemies. Let's get dirty. Listen to Dirty rush on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Will Friedle
At school, of course, Albert is a hit. Students cling to him as he poetically talks about snowboarding and takes off his jacket to expose his muscles. All the girls are very impressed with how he evolved. And boy, boy, he is. Gabby is very concerned, but May is just excited to be escorted to class by her new boyfriend. And as far as the investigation, even though the general is no closer to finding the X17, it may be designed a little bit too well. An assistant to the General Jenks says a woman walking her dog caught a glimpse and said he was super cute, candy, sugary in the eye holes. And the honorary mayor of Hunkytown, of course. And with that, we get a montage to some pop rap. It's Albert's first day at school. He saves a frog from dissection. Holds, by the way. Okay, did you dissect frog?
Sabrina Bryan
So grossed out.
Will Friedle
But did you die? Did you dissect frogs in high school? I did.
Sabrina Bryan
Did they give you live frogs that
Will Friedle
you had to kill?
Sabrina Bryan
No. Of course no. They were dead frogs that smelt of whatever stuff, formaldehyde that you have to keep in. They were so gross. I felt like I stunk for days after it. So this, even seeing this, and like, I loved it. Oh, my God.
Will Friedle
But the idea that they. In this school, they hand you a live frog and you first have to kill it.
Sabrina Bryan
Could you imagine?
Will Friedle
So ridiculous. Oh, the frogs are dead people. They're not going to hand you a live frog and make you murder it.
Sabrina Bryan
Even still, you know I'm not into reptiles. Not even a little bit, right? Like not even a little.
Will Friedle
You won't cuddle a little.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh, shut up. Notice things. No. But then he goes and like lets it go and then gets up and grabs her hand. Now I don't care what this guy looks like if he is the dream machine. I am not touching his hand after he was just hanging out holding a frog.
Will Friedle
No.
Jill Winterstein
Nope.
Sabrina Bryan
Get your hand away from me. Go wash your hands. No thank you sir.
Will Friedle
You're probably not going to want to touch a whole lot of boys hands then.
Sabrina Bryan
Oh God no.
Will Friedle
No. Anyway, they first he stopped them from murdering the frog in class, which never happens. He then holds. He then holds May's hand with his nasty frog hand, which Sabrina wouldn't like. At lunch in a romantic picnic on the football field with a violinist, he paints a beautiful portrait of her in art class and reads Pride and Prejudice in seconds. And then in the library, Gabby. She now has it all figured out. She thinks Albert is a viral marketing campaign from Superior Gaming. He's just an actor made up to look like she May. He's just an actor made up to look like what she made online. Which again not the worst theory, right? But he stands strong. He's Albert from Alaska and he will do anything to make May happen happy. But Gabby thinks he's too perfect. And when he leaves May, he will be crushed and she will be left to pick up the pieces. He swears he's not an actor and he won't leave until his mission is complete. They will have the perfect kiss at homecoming during the moonlight dance. And that's when Bart calls. He tells Gabby the computer is wrecked and he's seen this perfect new boy at school on May's photo feed. He's freaked out and says it will tear the fabric of space and time. He needs to fix the computer to figure this all out and Gabby helps him with some ideas of how to make that happen happen. On the football field, however, Albert is breaking all of Jaden's push up records. The coach is very impressed with his perfect 200 yard spiral and immediately recruits him to the football team. Gabby and May notice from afar of course, and though May is impressed, Gabby calls the whole thing unpossible. Albert notices May and runs off the field to see her. And while Nevaeh Sabrina, which is heaven
Sabrina Bryan
backwards, which is like now it's spelled
Will Friedle
right, is becoming suspicious. And Jaden is getting jealous at the end of the school day, May runs off to Albert's orange sports car, but is intercepted by Jaden wondering if they have tutoring today. But she's spaced. She promised Albert she'd show him around. As the new couple speeds off, we also notice that his personalized license plate is meowsers. Which A is too many letters. And also, what the understand it at. Why does it have.
Sabrina Bryan
I rewound this?
Will Friedle
Yes. I don't. Is that supposed. Is that like a. Is that like a cool, like meowser, like, he's so cute. But why would he put that on his own license plate?
Sabrina Bryan
How did he get his own license plate? I was still confused. On.
Will Friedle
My guess is there's some very rich cat lady somewhere who was robbed and
Sabrina Bryan
possibly we're going on another sidebar story. Oh, my God. I can't take it. No, we gotta keep moving.
Will Friedle
I don't understand what's happening. So Meowsers because he's catlicious. I don't know.
Sabrina Bryan
Because he's catlicious.
Will Friedle
Okay, now at the park, Albert and May walk around a fountain with Gabby trailing very close behind, sneezing from pollen again. She's there. She wasn't in the car, but she's there. It's a two seater. Albert has an important question, so May finally asks for a moment alone. Thank you, Gabby. Maybe step back a bit. Now, without Gabby, he asked May to homecoming, but surprisingly, she says no. He can ask anyone at school. And no one really sees her like this, so why would anyone? Because she's insanely cute, smart and funny, so no one looks at her. So sure. May runs over to Gabby, who's still sneezing and concerned. This is all going too fast. Gabby quickly gets hit with an EpiPen. I'm kidding. Because she just seemed to be sneezing a lot. The girls are supposed to be a team. They're supposed to study, graduate early, go to Harvard, become millionaires with Nobel prizes, and then get elected president and vice president. This boy is going to change everything. But May calls Albert the best thing that's ever happened to her. And then he starts playing the ukulele and singing her a love song. Fine. Get it. He's supposed to be perfect. He has perfect pitch, like a hot Jason Mraz with out the stupid hat, and everyone loves it. And then May joins in on the song and knows all the words, and they're perfectly singing together. And this is where I got up and walked away for a little while. I was like, please don't turn into a musical Please don't turn into a musical. The crowd has gathered for the duet, apparently. And she finally says yes to the proposal puzzle. How. What did you think about. I get him breaking the song. He's supposed to be the perfect girlfriend. It's supposed to be like the prom ask. Totally understand. Picks up ukulele. He's a great singer. I get that. Sold. Not a problem.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
She joins him, and now it's a duet.
Sabrina Bryan
The song was very, like. It was an actual. I'm trying to look at my notes right here. Because it was a song. Yeah. I love you like a love song, baby. So I know that it wasn't like. Like, she couldn't have joined in.
Will Friedle
Like, for your own ask, you're gonna join in for him.
Sabrina Bryan
It would have been better to have some of the other, like, patrons that are there, too, in the park and do, like, a kind of flash mobs. Flash mobs, yes. Something like that would have been a little bit. A little bit more of something easier to grasp.
Will Friedle
Yeah. Because that was. That was not good. May's phone rings, and it's Bart again, who has grown very paranoid. He fixed a computer, but now he knows too much. He tells her to get to their house asap. And over at Superior Games, Jenks reports the situation has escalated. Black Sigma, a very dangerous international arms dealer, is after X17. And that's when the doctor figures it out. There is another copy of the software at his house. And then we see 40 minutes into the movie, or 35 minutes into the movie.
Sabrina Bryan
We're 50. We're 50. I made a note of it.
Will Friedle
Okay, now there's a new kind of twist where. Okay, we see Black Sigma hiding a cleaning van outside of Superior Games. They've been planning on stealing the X17 for months, but someone has beat them to it, so they're forced to find him on the outside. Gabby finally makes it to Bart, who's in full panic mode. He realizes his dad isn't a video game designer. He's actually working with the Pentagon. Gabby also figures out the truth about Alberta. He's a highly mobile robot soldier, and she set him up with her best friend. This is terrible. But things get even worse when Black Sigma arrives, kicking in the office door. It was very fast. They're quite the force, apparently, where they waited for this many months to steal the robot, but then were able to get to the house into. I'm sorry. This is me thinking, apologies. The thugs jump on the computer and learn all about Albert and his mission, titled Homecoming. Now, with the info they need they steal the files and destroy the motherboard again just before the military Humvees arrive and walk into the pulverized results. The doctor's scared his kids were home during the attack, but instead he finds his son and Gabby just studying in the living room. They explain, and I like how they both had headphones on. So it's like, what? We didn't hear anything. At least that made sense. It's like they. Let's. Let's figure out a way to make it seem like we didn't know what was going on. They explained that May is out with a totally real boy and swear they didn't notice any break in. Bart's dad continues to pretend he's just a normal video game designer while Bart lays it on thick about how much he hates lying, which this is my favorite part of the favorite scene of him just like, kind of yelling at his dad about because no one likes liars and stuff. Like, it was very funny. Also, hilariously, the Black Sigma cleaning van is still parked outside May's house, something that should be easily detected by the US Military, but is completely missed as a result. The bad guys spot Gabby and Bart leaving the taxi and decide to follow them to the high school pre party pep rally. Ooh, say that three times fast. School's pre party pep rally. Pre party pep rally. Pre party pep rally. Where Albert and May just arrived. Give me one. See if you can do it.
Sabrina Bryan
Pre party pep rally.
Will Friedle
Nice. We're good. We should do this for a living.
Sabrina Bryan
We're good.
Will Friedle
Now the girls at school want Gabby to find them perfect boyfriends, too. Again, taken straight from Weird Science, where Robert Downey Jr. And his friend want them to have a girl built for them as well, but they are much bigger fish to fry. Albert has spotted Black Sigma and knows they're after him. He sneaks behind one of the henchmen, takes the bottle out of his hand, smashes it, and uses the broken glass to slit his throat. Terminator 2 style. I'm kidding. Is everyone still with me? I'm joking. He fights him Terminator style and punches him through the wall. And while her boyfriend is off dueling, Gabby confronts May about Albert being a military super soldier without actually telling her what she needs to know.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
If you watch the scene again, she's like, make saying all these things that aren't actually saying. We built him on the computer. He's a fake robot. Like, that's all you need to say.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Doesn't actually she kind of.
Sabrina Bryan
Your dad is not a. Like this. Like, say it faster. Come on, Gabby.
Jill Winterstein
Let's go.
Will Friedle
Gabby.
Sabrina Bryan
Get it out. Gabby, we gotta help your friend here.
Will Friedle
You're supposed to be a genius. Genius. Exactly. But May isn't hearing it. She's in love and believes Albert feels the same way about her. But Gabby explains it's impossible for a robot to feel love. And she doesn't say robot. She just says it's impossible for him to feel love. Forcing the best friends into an argument, Gabby begs May to trust her and end things with Albert by just looking him in his eyes and saying, initiate self destruct. But it ain't gonna happen. She's head over heels. So May walks away with their friendship hanging in the back balance. Now it's night of the big football game because the big.
Sabrina Bryan
All of a sudden there's a football game. No one's talked about it except for. We've seen one practice.
Will Friedle
Yeah, we knew about homecoming. But they don't talk about the homecoming game.
Sabrina Bryan
The game. Right, right. That's not been. Then I'm like, literally, this went. It pulled me out of my. Oh my gosh, we care about a game. I had no idea there was something. There's no. Nothing really on the line except for winning the homecoming game either.
Will Friedle
And it doesn't really matter because they talk about the fact that they've never. They haven't really beaten. Beat this team. So it's not like this is an important game for the season. They make it seem like it's just nothing.
Sabrina Bryan
Right. And the only time you even get what kind of team this is is from that very quick clip with the coach that the coach doesn't even seem like he really knows how to coach. And the kids don't seem like they know what they're really doing either. Like, yeah, no, it happened so fast and you're going, it was weird.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
But anyway, the cheerleaders are in full cheer mode, led by Nevaeh Backwards for Heaven, who is still politicking for homecoming queen. The home. The home team Eagles are currently down by 25 points when the Black Sigma guys arrive. Remember them? To find their one defeated teammate who reveals that X17 can sense their presence. They know they'll need an electropulse device to shut down X17 himself. And that's when they'll grab him. At the game. Gabby and May have fully split up, sitting nowhere near each other. Meanwhile, one of the players is injured. They need a second string running back. And that's when the coach spots Alaska in the stands and tells him to suit up. Like you do? Guy's never taken a snap, never been in practice, never knows what's going on. But hey, he can.
Sabrina Bryan
Just looks big and bulky.
Will Friedle
Like, I also threw the ball once, so of course we're gonna make him a running back. What? Albert takes off his shirt in the stands, like you do. By the way, if I look like this, dude, I'd never wear a shirt. And the girls love what they see. One classmate even faints again.
Sabrina Bryan
This was. Remember how I felt about this in cowbells? I felt the same way, like, when you would never get a girl to, like, drop down into a bikini and the guys sit there and, like, just got her, right? Like never, never, never. But why is that okay with him? He takes off his shirt, and the girls are literally this close to him,
Will Friedle
like, just staring at his man nipples, and it's like, jeez. Yeah, exactly. Gabby knows this is a problem and rushes into the huddle to try to stop Albert. May joins in too, eventually followed by Nieva Neva, Mina, Vibe, by Heaven. And I'm just gonna keep saying heaven. And then if we could just reverse the the audio, that'd be great, but just wants this homecoming game to go off without a hitch so she can be the queen. The referee calls a delay of game, and the girls return to the sideline as the audience throws empty cups at them. And then another montage. You know I love a montage. Albert is a superhuman football player scoring touchdown after touchdown like some sort of mechanical NFL cyborg. The crowd loves it. But back at May's house, the military and police are trying to figure out who broke in. But the local police are very preoccupied with the score of the local high school game. They can't believe the Eagles are coming back. They check their phones for video and spot the new student, a modified beast. And that's when the doctor figures it out. This new football star is the X17 in full assault mode. And he also notices this robot is dating his daughter. Uh oh. Back at the game, there are five seconds left, and the Eagles have the ball down by just five. They could win this thing. Jaden and Albert are ready to take the field when the coach has an idea. Just give the ball to Albert. Nevaeh tries to still get the crowd to chant for Jaden, but everyone knows this is Albert's night. As the team leaves their huddle, Black Sigma is also prepared for the next move with the blocker. Jaden yells, hike. And Albert absolutely crushes any defender in his path while on his way to a touchdown. He then in Some very bad CGI carries four opposing players along with him across the end zone scoring.
Sabrina Bryan
At the time, I didn't think it was that bad.
Will Friedle
It was bad.
Sabrina Bryan
I didn't think it was that bad.
Will Friedle
It was bad. And winning the game. But just as he celebrates, Sigma initiates their machine and short circuits the star player. Exploding. The stadium lights. The Humvees speed in as high school students run off in every direction. And we recognize this from the beginning of the movie. While fleeing, Gabby explains to May who her dad really is and that Albert is a deadly weapon. Hey, maybe tell me that before the game. Everyone is after him. It's all their fault.
Sabrina Bryan
Fault?
Will Friedle
Unfortunately, Nevaeh, who was once again within earshot, heard the conversation. These girls need to learn how to whisper. And at the same time, Black Sigma are finally surrounded by the military and handcuffed. They're caught. Leave me to wonder, why are they in this movie? Why? What did they do in this movie? Who? Oh, yes, why? Why are they here? What was the point of this entire storyline?
Sabrina Bryan
All they did was make him glitch, but they didn't even need to make him glitch because the military came in right as that happened.
Will Friedle
Anyway, if you cut out this entire storyline, the movie would not have changed at all.
Sabrina Bryan
Right.
Will Friedle
They literally did nothing.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
So it's like, what. What the hell were they there for? I mean, they're there for 20 minutes and then arrest.
Sabrina Bryan
They like, what, upped the ante on the fact that the military had lost this thing? Because now. Yeah, I mean, unless I think the only thing that would have made sense a little bit is if, like, maybe the, the, the brother and Gabby got like kidnapped from them. They came home. It was obvious that they also now have taken his children and another friend, like something like that. But yeah, no, they, they really didn't need, because they didn't cause much chaos, except for ruining the motherboard at the house.
Will Friedle
They showed. They used the scene to show how good a fighter he was.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
And then to short circuit him, which didn't even short circuit him, so none of it made any sense whatsoever. Literally, completely and totally pointless storyline in this film.
Sabrina Bryan
Right.
Will Friedle
And now Gabby and May are hiding, taking their spots. In the first few minutes of how to Build a Better Boy, the General and May's dad arrive to demand they forfeit. And so the girls give themselves up. We saw this at the beginning. Now in custody, they're taken to Superior Games and lectured about their incredibly careless actions. But the General knows their intentions were romantic. They're not in need of a high tech war machine. And so they were free to go. The X17 is no longer their concern. Since he's been rebooted, his mission is back on track. Now this is the same day, and yet in that day he's helping freedom fighters, he's building schools and leading a team of mind sniffing dolphins all in one day. He's the property of the U.S. army now. And in exchange for her freedom, May is never to speak about any of this to anyone. She must now abandon her love and return to her regular, lonely, desperate, nerdy life where she's an awful human being. Like the dirt under everybody's shoe. You can tell just by looking at this gorgeous girl. All's fair in love and war. Two things Jenks admits she's never seen action. Gabby thinks it's all over, but May isn't convinced. She knows Albert will come to his senses and remember her. She's going to homecoming in case he shows up. He's more than microchips and wires. He's magic. Okay. Gabby says there's an equation for everything and no such thing as magic. And May doesn't care. And so now it's homecoming day and Albert is still missing. May is driven to the Paris themed dance by her dad. Now, at first I thought it was odd that it was daytime outside, which seems like wrong for the school day. And then I was like, well wait, maybe it's closer to the summer. And then I'm like, wait, it's homecoming, which is usually done right around a holiday. So it should have been dark.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, yeah, it definitely should have.
Will Friedle
Because I think homecoming is like right around Thanksgiving.
Sabrina Bryan
Although, yeah, it's in October usually.
Will Friedle
October, November. Right? Yeah. So it'd be dark.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah, yeah. But they did set it like they, they do meet outside like they did. Because I was thinking the same thing. Like this doesn't make sense time wise during the day. Right. But they did. You could see kids in the background, like getting there early to take pictures like that, which is, which is a common thing to do. You go somewhere, a park or a person's house to take pictures like that. Seem like that's what they were doing before they entered the dance.
Will Friedle
Dating a robot they built on her computer. So I'm going to let it slide that it should have been.
Sabrina Bryan
I think out of all the details that are a little far fetched, this might be the one.
Will Friedle
I agree. Agree.
Sabrina Bryan
The easiest, agree.
Will Friedle
May is clearly disappointed to be there alone. But her dad swears a girl as brilliant and beautiful as she is will still have a special night with or without x17. And so she takes her spot on the steps, waiting for her date, watching as Nevaeh and Jaden pull up. And just as she's about to quit, a limo arrives and out steps Albert. He made it after all. May's dad can't believe what he's seeing. Albert apologizes for being late, and the couple walk into the dance. But unfortunately, the Humvees are also ready to part. The general knew his mission would lead him to homecoming, but couldn't let May know or she would have warned Albert. And now they're ready to take out the X17. May's dad steps in. They can't do this. If the military attacks Albert, he'll fight back with full force. This will be world war with his daughter right in the middle of the action. He promises if they let Albert finish his mission, he will retreat peacefully. So let the robot kiss his daughter. If they ruin. Yep, I'm gonna say it again. So let the robot kiss his daughter. Water. If they ruin May's night, the doctor will quit and never deliver a robot to the US ever again. Even the X36, which sounds just like a guy who doesn't want to get off his couch. I remember me as at 36. I'm like, I'm not going to save the world. The general says the army will make sure the kiss happens and instructs the battalion to follow Operation Pucker Up. Inside the dance, the vey is already furious at all the attention May and Albert are getting.
Sabrina Bryan
Setting.
Will Friedle
Jaden tries to stand up for May, but Nevaeh is dead set on ruining the night for her rival. Gabby is also very mad at Albert. He had to show up, didn't he? But Albert tells her, you can't know everything that's going to happen. Meanwhile, all of Nevaeh's popular Meeting Girl pals have switched sides. They're now minions of May, calling themselves May Flowers and wearing polka dot dresses just like hers. May is as popular as she always dreamt of, but nothing feels right. Operation Pucker up is in full swing, with Jenks pretending to be a student. Nevaeh is ready to accept her homecoming crown and expose Albert. But Jaden has seen enough of her evil ways and dumps her right there on the spot. Good for you, Jaden.
Sabrina Bryan
Finally.
Will Friedle
Then, when the principal takes the mic to announce that he's giving out free ballroom lessons. But it's also time to announce the queen, the winner is Mae Hartley. Nevaeh is devastated, Bart is shocked, and May's dad is emotional, but then he learns the army actually stuffed the ballot box. As May accepts, Nevaeh rushes the stage. She calls the results unacceptable and reveals Albert is a machine. For a few seconds, everyone is confused until Jaden steps up like a good bro and praises Albert's work on the football field. Yeah, dude, you're a machine. And the crowd loves it. Nevaeh tries to clarify herself by calling him dangerous, but everyone just returns to dancing. Of course, not everyone is happy. Jaden knows he messed up with May. She's special, and that's why Albert asked her to the dance. He tells Gabby that he wanted to ask me to the dance but didn't have the guts. And then Gabby realizes she was wrong about Jaden. He did like May the whole time on stage. May sees herself in the crown and knows her dream and the Moonlight Dance is closer than ever. Although she never, ever once dreamed of being the homecoming queen. Never mentioned the entire movie. Didn't care about that even slightly. But instead of running to Albert, she retreats to the corner of a gym. Gabby and May reunite because something is clearly bothering the newly crowned queen. Gabby apologizes for all of her actions. I didn't understand why Gabby was apologizing. Okay, okay, I get that. She says she held her back and she shouldn't have said that, that Jaden didn't like her and boys got in the way. But also, the second this dude entered her life, May ditched her friend and wouldn't listen to her. And he's a killer, and it's like, I'm going with him. I never knew you. She was clearly jealous and holding back her best friend. She never should have said Jaden was out of her league. True, they were an unstoppable team, but May is also great on her own. Also true. Maybe a school dance or a boyfriend isn't Gabby's thing, but if that makes me happy, then that's what she wants for her. They hug just as the Moonlight Dance starts. And May didn't apologize back at all. A slow jam begins and May makes her way into the romantic gym, all orchestrated by the US Military. Queen May and Albert make their way to the dance floor and embrace. She buries her head into his chest, and even the General and Jenks are mesmerized by the love. So much so that Jenks is distracted and starts to emit too much wind from the fans. This forces Gabby to realize the army is at the dance and ready to grab alone Albert. Instead of jumping in to save the day, though, Gabby decides to let May Take care of herself. You're still laughing about Prince Albert, aren't you? Okay. I knew you were. I can tell by the red. May scans the gym, and just as she's about to kiss Albert, she pulls away. She can't. The army doesn't know what to do. May says the whole thing just feels off. She invented him because a boy didn't like her and she wasn't brave enough to know that if a boy doesn't like her for being herself, then it's not her fault. She wants her first kiss to be real. Albert calls her incredible, noting that she's doing something he can never do.
Sabrina Bryan
Change.
Will Friedle
He points out the soldiers, and she realizes he knew they were coming all along and he came to dance anyway. His mission was to make sure it was her best night ever. And now his mission is complete. Then, on command, she looks into his eyes and says, initiate self destruct. He says goodbye and becomes an electrical ball. A storm hits inside the gym, and Nevaeh continues to blame the government, which technically is not conspiracy theory, because it's true. The students run off in all directions as Albert bursts to the ceiling and speeds off into space. Now in total silence, the students are confused. Bart jumps in, asking for a round of applause for the school principal and his awesome special effects. Everyone goes with it and returns to dancing, which doesn't make any sense at all. Jaden then tells May that the line of smoke Albert left behind is a perfect logarithmic curve, exposing that he's actually pretty good at math. So then he faked spelling things wrong.
Sabrina Bryan
Just because he's good at math doesn't mean he's a good speller.
Will Friedle
Really. He knows what a perfect logarithmic curve is, but he can't spell what was like here or something? They were like basic words. They were with a Q. He was just pretending to need help because he liked his tutor. He asked her to dance, and she surprisingly says, go yourself. Actually, she says, maybe. Later, when Gabby arrives, May lets her know no boy is more important than their friendship. And then Gabby breaks some real news. What if her new boyfriend is related to her best friend? We see Bart having the time of his life, and Gabby admits that even though boys are a distraction, they're a pretty good one. The girls go back to dancing, admitting you can meet a boy and change the world at the same time. And then we get our end credits with some improv lives from Bart, also known as actor Matt Shively, who is very funny, dancing alongside Gabby. And that's our movie Sabrina, let's do some real reviews.
Sabrina Bryan
All right. Oh my gosh.
Will Friedle
You got the five star.
Sabrina Bryan
I've got a five star from Rosanna Bodaf. Go. Your five star says I like to watch tech geniuses unwittedly using military software to program a robotic boyfriend.
Will Friedle
That is very specific.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Yes, very specific.
Sabrina Bryan
Do you see that often?
Will Friedle
No, apparently not.
Sabrina Bryan
All right.
Will Friedle
I have the one star review and it's from Silent Guardian. 1. I whispered it because that's being silent.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
I guarantee if the title was how to build a better girl there would be an outrage. As a guy, I find the very title and concept of this movie offensive. There are a lot of guys who try our best to make the women in our life happy who actually cares care. A movie basically outlining an ideology of how men quote, should unquote be able to make them quote better unquote could really hurt the self esteem of young men who are trying their best. Wouldn't recommend this movie to anybody. One star. Okay.
Sabrina Bryan
Wow.
Will Friedle
There's a lot. There's a lot going on there that Silent Guardian meets. It might need to work out. I don't disagree with the fact that if they Disney would never make how to make a better Girl. No, not, not nowadays. But hey, they made those in the 80s. Maybe it's time that the. The, the the ladies get to make a better guy movie. I wasn't offended and I'm a guy.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Here's our feature program of the game. Well, our game, our feature of the week. That's Sabrina's favorite part. Who are we playing with today?
Sabrina Bryan
By the way, you got Michaela.
Will Friedle
Yeah. We're gonna lose. Take me to your leader is what it's called to celebrate the presence of Prince Albert. Because I got to say it again. A robot disguised as a hot human schooler. We thought we could reference some other famous human bots from pop culture that were also penis piercings. I'm kidding. That will list as an. So we're gonna list an actor and a movie and you have to guess from a multiple choice list. What's the robot's name? Okay, we already know Marsha Williams from How to build a better boy was in X17 or Albert Hurt. So three out of five wins. So here we go. Number one, Haley Joe Osment in AI A, Ricky. Oh, I should probably say what they are. Is it A, Ricky, B, Steven, C, David or D, Timmy? I don't know any of these, do you?
Sabrina Bryan
I'm gonna go with B, Steven, A, Ricky. It is C, David.
Will Friedle
Number two. Alicia Vikinder or Vikander. Or Vikander in Ex Machina. Never seen that either. Is it A, Ava, B, Susan, C, Kitra or D, Rochelle?
Sabrina Bryan
I'm gonna go with A, Ava.
Will Friedle
I'm gonna too. A, Ava. Ava.
Sabrina Bryan
Correct.
Will Friedle
Yay. We got one. Oh, oh, one. I'm gonna know. Number three, Sean Young and Blade Runner. Finally. Is it A, Dina, B, Rachel, C, Sonia, or D, Erica?
Sabrina Bryan
D, Erica.
Will Friedle
It's B, Rachel, I think.
Sabrina Bryan
Yes, you're correct.
Will Friedle
All right, B, Rachel. Number four, Yul Brenner in Westworld. Is it A, the cowboy, B, the gunslinger, C, the sheriff or D, Derek? I don't know this one either.
Sabrina Bryan
I'm gonna go with D, Derek.
Will Friedle
I'm gonna say see the show Sheriff.
Sabrina Bryan
Four is B. Oh, the gunslinger.
Will Friedle
Okay, I need this last one to win because I need three. Right.
Sabrina Bryan
Done. Yeah.
Will Friedle
All right, here we go. Five. Oh, and I know it. This is weirdly one of my favorite movies. People hate it and for some reason I liked it. Number five, Robin Williams in Bicentennial Man. Is it A, Phil Grant, B, Dan Garrett. C, Jeff Hamilton or D, Andrew Martin?
Sabrina Bryan
B, Dan Garrett.
Will Friedle
It was D, Andrew Martin.
Sabrina Bryan
Damn. I said Will is correct.
Will Friedle
It's D. I actually won. I don't know how that's possible. Can we do A Sabrina Sees?
Sabrina Bryan
We can. Now. I've given quite a bit again, the age. The age of this movie. I think because of what. And maybe just because it. I feel like. And I thought about it. We've said it a little bit around the other ones too. I think because it kind comes with like the robot aspect.
Amber Grimes
You really.
Sabrina Bryan
It gets far fetched kind of fast. So you kind of have to be able to like let go, let God, let go of a lot of like.
Will Friedle
What?
Sabrina Bryan
That's incredible. That's like just not, not normal or whatever. So I kept going, like, what's the age demo of this movie? I'm trying to think of who they're targeting. So that kind of was something that just. It's. It's throughout many times of my. My Sabrina Sees as I'm watching team, I also something about. And now and I. When you mentioned the, the location of this, it was in Toronto and it was at like a college of some sort. This. Every aspect of that we saw within the school didn't. That was another thing. It didn't look like a high school to me. It looked like a college.
Will Friedle
Yeah, agreed.
Sabrina Bryan
Like even so much as like the, the, the hallways of it looked like. Okay, and then you jump out to like the track. The Track had three little steps onto it. Like they're where they played. Where the scene happens with her and Nevaeh calling out and Albert is the first time we're talking about this made up person. That didn't look like a high school track to me at all. Looked like a very much like a college. Like USC's college track kind of looks like that. Then when we go to the football game, the end zone was like in the middle.
Will Friedle
Yeah, well, you know why?
Sabrina Bryan
I'm assuming because it wasn't out like a, like a real high school.
Will Friedle
Because that's Canadian football. They shot this in Canada and the, the actual field goal is at a different spot in a Canadian football field.
Sabrina Bryan
If you're making up all of this on the spot, I'm going to be so angry.
Will Friedle
Watch. Wait, hang on, hang on.
Sabrina Bryan
To get me to go.
Will Friedle
Hang on. Currently, field goal posts on a Canadian football league or Canadian football are on the goal line at the front of the end zone.
Sabrina Bryan
Okay. Okay.
Will Friedle
I swear.
Sabrina Bryan
Not making it.
Will Friedle
Okay. All right.
Sabrina Bryan
Canadian.
Will Friedle
No. Swear to God. It's, it's, it's, it's different with, with Canadian football. They, they obviously shot it on a Canadian football field.
Sabrina Bryan
Okay, thank you. Okay, well then that, that answers that question because I'm kind of like this school just doesn't add up to being like a high school for me. Which again was like already in the. The things of like the both of the girls to me seem. Seemed aged down. Pretty like. Or not not, I guess aged up then because the. At the actress themselves played a little bit or seemed a lot younger than what they were supposed to be playing. Especially again, it came up again when she just jumps into this, like, car. Didn't have to call her dad. Didn't have to seem like she had permission, but like after school just like gets in this kid's like Lamborghini and like drives off all that stuff just. And like, you'd have to be like in like your senior year, I would think, you know, like, for that to all be kind of normal. Anyway, moving on. Let me see. I had quite a bit of them that I'm gonna move past. The ukulele part was just so funny to me. I know you can't. I was like cracking up like, oh my God, him and this ukulele. I don't love ukuleles. For some reason I wish he would have picked up a regular size guitar.
Will Friedle
Guitar. Yeah. Or just saying yes.
Sabrina Bryan
Just. Yeah, just singing. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. Another thing, you didn't even mention how weird and Random was it when the girls joined the boys in the huddle on the football field?
Will Friedle
I know they were trying. It was a comedy thing. I know what they were going for. It just. Yeah, it didn't really work.
Sabrina Bryan
Okay. The next thing, there was a couple of funny, like, quotes that happened. It was all's fair in love and war. And then. I wouldn't know, sir. I've never seen action in either.
Will Friedle
Poor thing. Poor thing. And she was another beautiful woman, by the way.
Sabrina Bryan
She was a gorgeous woman. Her character was. Was a funny little addition. Like, she just brought in, like, and then her, like, love story. I loved this character. I forget what her name was.
Will Friedle
Jinx.
Sabrina Bryan
Jinx. Jinx was a funny character to me. They gave her just enough to be like, I, you know, like just kind of, you know, then her having, like this like, random little chemistry moment with the principal at the end. I liked her a lot with that. And then Max with the girl was also another offsetting, like, little. And it was the general that says it. Yeah, Max with the girl. He's gonna.
Will Friedle
Oh, he's gonna get right knocking on
Sabrina Bryan
her was from the general saying that the whole idea we went through it kind of funn.
Will Friedle
But the dad wasn't even get into it.
Sabrina Bryan
Yeah. Because it just.
Will Friedle
It's weird where the army is trying to get this robot to make out
Sabrina Bryan
with this girl so much that I said at some point during the movie and. And you know, it's not a big harp that we need to make on it. But at some point, if you stop and think, this army has a whole bunch of cameras set up, waiting now, this kiss. And it was just seeming kind of crazy. And then this was my favorite one. This is the last one. I don't give two shakes of a Blind Dog's Day. I was laughing out loud. This is towards the end of the movie. And he goes, I don't give two shakes of a blind donkey's tail what may want.
Will Friedle
Yeah, good line.
Sabrina Bryan
I thought that was two shakes of a blind donkey's tail. I thought that was a good one.
Will Friedle
I like it.
Sabrina Bryan
And that's it.
Will Friedle
All right, well, now we come to the portion of our program where we're going to rate the film we just saw. One to 10.
Sabrina Bryan
One to 10. And I believe you're first this time.
Will Friedle
Am I? Well, let's make 10 the biggest. Okay, and here are our options this week. 1 out of 10 third wheel gabbies, hot burgers. 1 out of 10 off the chain software Polite Canadian Indians, Chillaxified and vegetarized. Hot tea, hunky towns. One out of ten meowsers mind sniffing dolphins. Or one out of ten daytime school dances. I think I picked, don't I? This week?
Sabrina Bryan
Yes.
Will Friedle
Okay.
Sabrina Bryan
You get to pick, and you get to go first.
Will Friedle
I go first. Okay. I'm gonna do 1 out of 10 meowsers because I still don't understand what that was. So that's what we're gonna do. Okay. Okay. I get what they were going for this movie. I. It's like I said, the. The two girls who starred in it. Great. The wardrobe made no sense. The fact that they were two really intelligent, gorgeous girls who were still nerds, and nobody got. Nobody looked at, no sense whatsoever. This is like almost the most extreme version of, like, these girls really have no friends and nobody wants to talk to them. Are you kidding me? It made so the. That bothered me. I get it's a trope, and I get I'm supposed to let it go, but I. I can't just throw on a pair of glasses and. And Clark Kent, everybody, all the time. I'm sorry. I just can't do it. Dress them down. Dress them weird. Make them golf. Do something that's so different and out there that it's crazy pants. And this didn't do it for me. It also needed a rewrite. The whole thing about, like, the. The black.
Sabrina Bryan
The villains.
Will Friedle
Villains coming, whatever the Black Saber or whatever they were called, literally pointless. The entire movie looked great. The. Again, acting was good. Parts of it were funny. Matt Shively was very funny. I thought the dad was very funny. Some of the. The janks was very funny.
Sabrina Bryan
I love the military guy. Like, they were.
Will Friedle
I had no problem with any of the characters.
Sabrina Bryan
Were good characters.
Will Friedle
Were good. Needed a big rewrite. Because of that, I am going with. And I think this is fair. Fair. I really do. I am going with 6.5 meowsers for this movie. What do you got, Sabrina?
Sabrina Bryan
So for me, again, we talked about. I've already mentioned, like, my first thoughts were just, like, it got grabbed my attention right from the start. Again, we had not seen something like this. And then it just, like, quickly mellowed out and started to drag in the front end of it. Once I. I had to kind of stop and go, okay. And I remember this with Pixel Perfect. And I remember, like, when it starts to get a little bit more techy, you kind of have to let yourself lean in a little bit more. Once I got in a better mind frame and that. But that wasn't until almost 20 minutes in that I Finally let things go and I kind of let it happen. I saw that the girls. I got over the. I loved their wardrobe. I thought they were so cut. I. I was like, enamored with their wardrobe for sure. And then the button of the girls picking up and wanting to emulate their wardrobe made all of that later on okay for me. Like, I kind of was like, okay. So I see it. Like, they were just kind of quirky and different and, you know, more brainiacs or whatever. I kind of eventually let that go. Then I lost it a little bit at the end when no one cared that this, like, unbelievably after this, you know, the whole school has just thought this guy was just the epic, unbelievable godsend boy who is good looking, who drives the car, who now saves the day at the homecoming game. Like, all. Now he's Prince, like, and then he just like, bursts out of the ceiling and they just are like, oh, thanks, principal. For like the, like. That's when I went.
Will Friedle
That's Albert. Yeah.
Sabrina Bryan
So that, like, it bumped it up a lot. And then it kind of fizzled down. It kind of settled on a seven. Like a solid seven Meowsers for me. I think for this movie in particular, it did demo down in the target age range a little bit more than a lot of the movies that we watch. It kind of. It kind of slumped down into a younger one, which isn't always the ones that end up being my favorite. I agree.
Will Friedle
I agree. Well, there you go. Well, thank you to everybody for joining us for this meowser tastic film. Our next movie is one that I don't think either of us were familiar with, but I frankly can't remember at the time. It was a little while ago. But we are very excited. The next film we're doing is the 1998 classic Principal Takes Holiday. It is available on the YouTube. So go check that out before you listen to our amazing recap. And it was. It was probably the best recap we've ever, ever done. I honestly don't. Don't remember how good a recap it was, but it was probably 6.2, 6.8 recap. But yes, we're very excited, so please go and check that out. But first, we are gonna stay in the better boy universe because we're gonna be sitting down with Ashley Argoda, who played Ready Sabrina Nevaeh or Heaven Backwards. That's right. In the movie. We have quite a history with the other stars. We talked about her craft and her time on the dcom that we just recapped. So let's get a small snippet of what's to come.
Sabrina Bryan
I actually had an opportunity when I was still on True Jackson to audition for Lemonade Mouth when I was still on Nickelodeon. And it was such a. Like, I was like, oh, man, but it's a dcom. Like, do I stay on my show? Do I go audition for a dcom? Ultimately, obviously stayed on True Jackson vp. But it was. It was truly, like, really had to think about that one because I think grew up watching DCOMs. I grew up watching Nickelodeon too, but, like, DCOMs were such a huge part of my life and, like, I. I loved them so much. So, like, yeah, I totally watched it while I was still on Nickelodeon.
Will Friedle
She was such a sport and so much fun to talk to. So make sure to check that out and subscribe to our Magical Rewind feed wherever you get your podcast, because then you'll get all of our interviews when they're released. And for more information, you can follow us at Magical Rewind Pod on the Instagram machine. Thanks, everybody. Meows are meowers.
Sabrina Bryan
Meowser. This is an I heart podcast.
Jill Winterstein
Guaranteed human.
iHeartPodcasts | March 10, 2026
In this episode, Will Friedle and Sabrina Bryan revisit the 2014 Disney Channel Original Movie "How to Build a Better Boy" as part of their podcast's ongoing Disney Channel Movie (DCOM) deep dive. They share behind-the-scenes trivia, nostalgic comparisons to '80s classics like "Weird Science," and their candid reactions to the film’s plot about two tech-savvy high schoolers who accidentally create a robotic super-boyfriend. The conversation is playful, critical, and peppered with personal anecdotes, offering fans of the genre insight and humor.
"Weird Science" Parallels:
Other DCOM References:
Both hosts agree the cast performances and visuals are strong, but the film stumbles in logic, motivation, and believable stakes. Its heart and humor land best for younger viewers, while older fans might find its story less cohesive than classic DCOMs.
For Disney Channel enthusiasts and podcast listeners, this episode offers warmth, honesty, and the kind of good-natured ribbing that comes with true fandom—and a little bit of “meowser” madness.