Life-Size

Summary

Pod Meets World — "Life-Size" (Dec 2, 2025)

Hosts: Will Friedle & Sabrina Bryan
Podcast: Pod Meets World (iHeartPodcasts)
Episode Theme: A deep dive, full rewatch, and spirited discussion of Disney’s 2000 film Life-Size, starring Tyra Banks and Lindsay Lohan.

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Episode Overview

The hosts take a nostalgic — and at times critical — look at the Disney cult classic Life-Size, in which a grieving young girl accidentally brings her fashion doll to life. They unpack the film’s offbeat story, strange tone, and the cultural context around dolls and girlhood, while poking fun at the movie’s absurdities and celebrating Lindsay Lohan’s child-star prowess. Along the way, they discuss the ripple effect of Barbie (2023), the legacy of early-2000s Disney Channel films, and what does (and definitely doesn’t) stand the test of time.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Childhood Dolls & Our Guest's Creepy "Gidget" (02:48–05:47)

• Will opens with doll talk, asking Sabrina about her childhood doll experiences.
• Sabrina describes her favorite, a large doll she named “Gidget,” which scared her as an adult:
  • Quote: “Anytime I go up [to the attic], I swear she moves... She looks like she has been smoking for decades.” (Sabrina, 04:18)
• The hosts riff on the unsettling nature of sentimental toys, setting a playful, irreverent tone.

2. What is Life-Size? & Production Deep-Dive (05:47–09:54)

• Will summarizes Life-Size as “the first-ever live-action Barbie movie” though it wasn’t officially Barbie, and reveals offbeat facts:
  • The original script was titled “Ken and Barbie,” but was changed due to legal issues.
  • The iconic song “Be a Star” stuck even when the doll’s name changed.
  • The movie was shot in Vancouver on a $6 million budget and developed a cult following—especially for sleepovers and nostalgic rewatches.
  • Post-Barbie (2023), discussions about Life-Size and femininity/feminism have resurfaced.
  • Critical takes: Many viewers and critics find it unexpectedly feminist (per Collider, E!), but both hosts are skeptical.
  • Tyra Banks reprised her role for Life-Size 2 in 2018, and a third is rumored.

3. Was This Even the Movie I Remembered? (09:54–11:34)

• Sabrina admits she confused Life-Size with the '80s film Mannequin, highlighting the slippery legacy of “woman-doll-comes-to-life” tropes.

4. The Plot: Absurdity and Confusion (11:34–37:10)

• Will summarizes the plot: a lonely teen named Casey (Lindsay Lohan) tries to resurrect her mother with a spell but, due to a mix-up, brings her Eve doll (Tyra Banks) to life instead.
• First Impressions:
  • Sabrina had to stop watching to “reset” and approach it from the perspective of a young child, not an adult.
  • Will argues that good movies should appeal across ages and finds much of the film makes “no sense.”
  • They both highlight awkward feminism messaging, e.g., “if you’re a little prettier, your life gets better.”
    • Quote: “That’s not feminism.” (Will, 14:24)
  • Both hosts assert that Lohan is genuinely excellent:
    • Quote: “If they put a list of the best child actors, there’s no way Lindsay Lohan is not on that list.” (Will, 15:05)

5. Cast & Crew Rundown (15:42–19:41)

• Full cast history: Lindsay Lohan as Casey, Tyra Banks as Eve, Jerry Burns as Casey’s dad.
• Lohan’s career trajectory is discussed—her child-star talent and subsequent personal struggles, but recent resurgence is celebrated.

6. The Endless Early-2000s Weirdness (22:40–57:17)

• The Opening:
  • The movie’s tone jumps rapidly from silly to tragic (Casey’s dead mother, a failed resurrection spell).
• Key Critique:
  • The dad quickly invites Eve, a total stranger, into his home and offers her a job after 45 minutes, which both hosts find totally implausible and creepy.
    • Quote: “I wasn’t yelling at the screen at this point, but I was like, what is this story?” (Will, 41:24)
• Troubling “Feminism” & Makeover Message:
  • The film carries the problematic message that being pretty = having value or happiness.
    • Quote: “Your life would be better if you were just prettier, then you could get the guy at work.” (Will, 54:46)
• Plot Holes:
  • The resurrection spell actually works, raising the logistical question, “Why not just bring Mom back?”—a point the film never explores.
  • Eve’s “doll-ness” is inconsistent; sometimes she needs help with basic tasks, other times she’s savvy and independent.
• Mall Montage & Early Internet:
  • The hosts lovingly lampoon a throwback montage and details like $150 occult books and AOL-style “new mail” popups.

7. Tyra Banks: Performance & Musical Moments (64:12–66:26)

• Tyra’s musical number, “Be a Star,” is a recurring point of bafflement and amusement.
  • Both hosts find it bizarre, unconvincing, and not helped by Tyra’s underwhelming vocals.
  • Quote: “Was it bad on purpose? I don’t think so.” (Will, 64:27)

8. Emotional Core: Lohan’s Scenes Shine (63:23–68:06)

• Will and Sabrina agree that quieter, serious scenes between Eve and Casey—dealing with grief and resilience—are the movie’s most effective, thanks to Lohan’s sincerity and skill.

9. Endgame & Denouement (68:06–75:03)

• Eve chooses to return to “Sunnyvale” to save her doll world; Casey and Ben accept her departure in stride ("amazingly well").
• The ending montage features Eve dolls thriving, friendships renewed, and Tyra singing/dancing in an extended finale both hosts deride as deeply weird.
• Quote: "[The dad] had no reaction to the fact that his daughter actually resurrected somebody..." (Will, 88:04)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the doll swap/spell confusion:
  “So Drew forced herself into your life, forced herself into your room, and then messed up an actual opportunity for you to resurrect your mom.”
  (Will, 36:22)

• On nostalgia and rewatching: “You can have nostalgia for a movie you loved when you were a kid and still watch it as an adult and go, this is not a good movie.”
  (Will, 45:43)

• On early internet plot devices:
  “You’ve got new mail.”
  (Will, 69:22)

• On the makeover/feminism paradox:
  “The only ways you’re getting the guy is not by working hard or being good at your job... it’s by being pretty.”
  (Will, 54:58)

• On weird adult/child dynamics (“Drew,” the dad’s colleague):
  “Go away and never come back. Thank you, Drew.”
  (Sabrina, 30:08)

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Fun Segments & Games

Barbie or Manson? (78:55–81:15)

• The hosts compete to guess if names belong to Barbie’s friends or members of Charles Manson’s cult. Both perform surprisingly well, with detailed murder trivia by Will.

Ratings & Verdict (86:13–90:41)

• Will: 4.5/10 Disguised Green M&Ms
  • Praise: Lindsay Lohan’s performance
  • Critique: Story/script/characters made “no sense”
• Sabrina: 5.5/10 Disguised Green M&Ms
  • Praise: Moments of sincerity, Lohan
  • Critique: Inconsistent tone, aged poorly, unsettling relationships

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Additional Highlights

• Recurring Gags: Green M&M disguises, “wieners,” early internet, the surreal furniture in Casey’s bedroom, Tyra’s musical aspirations.
• Listener Reviews:
  • 5-stars from "MissyP94" for nostalgic doll memories,
  • 1-star from “CoRyan”—“This movie is terrible. Instead, go to YouTube and watch Tyra Banks scared of dolphins.”
• Behind-the-Scenes Nuggets: Mall scenes, Vancouver filming, backgrounds on supporting actors.
• Critical Reflection: Both hosts urge listeners to separate childhood nostalgia from actual film quality and encourage critical re-viewing.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Childhood dolls & Gidget story — 02:48–05:47
• Life-Size production history & nostalgia — 05:47–09:54
• Plot summary & first reactions — 11:34–15:42
• Cast discussion — 15:42–19:41
• Deep plot breakdown/absurdities — 22:40–63:23
• Tyra Banks “Be a Star” singing critique — 64:12–66:26
• Barbie or Manson game — 78:55–81:15
• Ratings & final thoughts — 86:13–90:41

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Overall Tone

Energetic, irreverent, self-aware, nostalgic, sometimes exasperated, but always warm and playful — the hosts toggle between poking fun, affectionate teasing, and genuine media criticism with great chemistry.

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For First-Time Listeners

• Life-Size is affectionately remembered by many, but the hosts make a strong case for the importance of separating nostalgia from critical viewing.
• If you loved this film as a kid, you'll either be laughing along or questioning everything you thought you remembered.
• Lindsay Lohan’s young acting talent remains unimpeachable, even as the script leads everyone else off the rails.

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Next episode preview: A dive into the holiday DCOM “Twas the Night,” starring Bryan Cranston.

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Memorable closer:
“You can love the movie you saw as a kid and understand that it’s not that good. Two things can be true.”
(Will, 91:20)

Transcript

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[Will Friedle]

Did you have dolls when you were growing up?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I did.

[Will Friedle]

What was your favorite, like, doll line? Were you a Barbie person? Did you like Skipper? I remember. God, I can't believe I even know what Skipper is. But do you remember all this stuff?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I do. But my bar and I had the Barbie Dream House and tons of them. The cars, the, the, all the stuff I did. But those that my Barbie dolls were not actually my favorite doll.

[Will Friedle]

What was your favorite doll?

[Sabrina Bryan]

A bar. A doll that was, you know, I was really like tiny. And no doll, Gidget was almost my size. She was just smaller than me.

[Will Friedle]

And not, not Gidget like from the 50s television show. Gidget, was it? No.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay. No. She had blonde hair, big blue eyes and I like, could put her in a, like a high chair and I would curl her hair. She didn't have hair that you couldn't curl. Or maybe my mom didn't let me heat it. I probably didn't eat it. That's probably better. But I would.

[Will Friedle]

That's a good plan.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And she was, and she had a little cassette tape, you know, in the back to where I could put cassette tapes. And she'd say tell me stories and we would, I would use that like as we were just chatting, right? Like, and I loved her. And I still have her. And she's up in my, I thought about her while I was watching this. She's up in my raptor, like the rafters in my garage. And anytime I go up there, I swear she moves.

[Will Friedle]

Oh God.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And she's all like dirty and gross and her hair's just like fried and awful now.

[Will Friedle]

God.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like a pathetic looking doll. But I cannot get rid of her as she was just such a huge part of. It's not, I don't even know why I'm holding onto it because it's not like I'll ever give it to Monroe. That will terrify.

[Will Friedle]

I'm googling it now because I want see if I can find an image of Gidget.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I, I, but then someone told me that wasn't her name. It might have been the name.

[Will Friedle]

I'm thinking that's the name you gave her because I'm dying to know what the name is. I don't want to know.

[Podcast Host]

Who doesn't.

[Sabrina Bryan]

She was big. Like she had like, she wasn't like a doll. Like it's like a Barbie size in any sort. She was like a giant, giant doll.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And I loved her. And she had so many outfits. I still have a lot of the outfits.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, well, note to self. When I go to your house, don't go up into the crawl space. Yikes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'll go up looking for like a suitcase or like my snowboard. And then boop, there she is.

[Will Friedle]

Oh God. Just smoking a cigarette. How are you, Sabrina? It's nice that I'm up here.

[Sabrina Bryan]

She looks like she has been smoking for decades.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly.

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[Will Friedle]

Great. Oh, man, it's perfect.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You weren't expecting that story, were you?

[Will Friedle]

Tiny little meth head up there. Awesome. Well, welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses were smart, the wave tsunamis, and Sabrina's doll wasn't working the streets. I'm Will Friedle.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And I'm Sabrina Bryan.

[Will Friedle]

Well, if all of you out there have ever watched the horror movie Child's Play and thought to yourself, hmm, this would be a good movie. If the Chucky doll wasn't scary at all and was actually just Tyra Banks, then, boy, you're in luck. Cause we're getting into the 2000 wonderful Disney fever dream. Life Size. Now, this is a movie that was regularly mentioned by our listeners on all social media. And I'm not sure if it was brought up sarcastically or if people actually like it, but it was highly requested for at least two reasons, and those are its two big name stars. Life Size debuted on March 5th in 2000 on ABC. So this is basically a network decom. That's. We don't like to say that it's a wonderful world of Disney, though that sort of defeats the definition if we call it a abcdcom. This movie is also regularly seen as the first ever live action Barbie movie, despite not having the rights to the iconic character. The director has even revealed that the original title for the movie was Ken and Barbie. So over two decades before, Greta Gerwig found inspiration in a doll coming to life. We give you Life Size. Another change they made to the original script actually plays into the movie's music. The big theme song, Be a Star. Oh, we'll get into that. Might be the doll's calling card, but that's because the doll's original name in the script was so Star. But because of a pending doll that was in development by a company, they were legally forced to change the name. But they left the song as is because why the not. And that's not even in the top 10 confusing things in this movie. And while we're talking about music, Life Size features two songs by the Irish girl group Bewitched and one from another Disney signed act. Some ladies that were very close to my heart. Nobody's Angel. The pop act appeared on an episode of Boy Meets World as a group of sisters that Corey and Sean magically meet at a diner on a road trip to surreal episode. But nice girls filming took place over three weeks in Vancouver, so even though it aired on abc, it still took place in the northern DCOM capital. And Eagle eyed viewers can easily catch locations thanks to the BC license plates and international flags seen throughout the movie. But whose nitpicking Life Size we are, that's who. It's our job right here. Yep, thanks to a modest $6 million budget, life size was considered a big hit for Disney and deemed a cult classic. Quote Sleepover rewatch staple, unquote. Collider contributor Kendall Myers said it handles difficult subject matter and allows Eve to ask deep questions about themes like femininity, grief and self discovery. Feel like I watched a different film? Laura Pyster of E. Said, quote we are not ready for the movie. We actually got an unexpectedly funny and sweet film that was also a lot more feminist than remembered. Again, I feel like I watched a different movie. It goes without saying discourse about Life Size escalated after the billion dollar performance of Barbie and similar themes happened there. We already talked about your doll situation. I don't want to get into Meth Head Abbey or whatever the doll's name was again. Also thanks to the viral life of this movie 18 years after Life Size debuted, Life Size 2, this time it's personal aired on Freeform in 2018 with Tyra Banks reprising her role, but Lohan missed out due to what was being called scheduling conflicts. But as recently as March of this year, Tyra has talked about the development of life size 3, so we'll have to wait and see if it takes another 18 years to complete the trilogy. And Life Size of course is currently available to watch on Disney, but it was absent from all streaming services for a very long time since it was a Wonderful World of Disney release, which we know those can get tangled. That was the same thing for my date with the President's Daughter in H E Double Hockey Sticks. Though unlike those two incredible films, it did get a DVD and Blu Ray release. Thank you. I love how you laughed. We'll talk about that later. It was never available for purchase or rental online until just a few weeks ago, and on November 7th of this year it was added to Disney in a new HD widescreen transfer. Hallelujah. So you know what to do. Watch it now or watch it later. Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader hate the game, not the player. Let's sing Daughters by John Mayer. Huh? You like it? That was a song. Anyway, what did you know about Life Size before we were assigned it as a homework assignment?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay, here's the thing I Thought I had watched this movie before. I thought I did. I really did. I recognize Tyra Banks being it. Lindsay Lohan. But as I was watching it and the storyline starts to play out, I realized the movie I was thinking of was it involved where it was a mannequin that turned into a life size person.

[Will Friedle]

So maybe you were thinking of mannequin.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Is that a man? Is that it? Is that?

[Will Friedle]

Well, there's two. Kim Cattrall plays mannequin and then there's mannequin two. I think they made a second one who somebody else plays the mannequin.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay. I think that's what I was thinking when I thought, yes, there was like.

[Will Friedle]

The original mannequin, if memory serves, is like she was an Egyptian princess or something and a curse was put on her and she was made into a mannequin and then she's awakened again at night to help him. Modern day, like do the storefronts in New York City. It's.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, that's sounding more familiar than what I thought. So I had really honestly thought and I guess I just have known about the Lindsay Lohan and Tyra Banks movie because I. The second it starts going and the storyline of how the doll everything, I was like, oh, this is not.

[Will Friedle]

This is not mannequin. This is not Kim Cattrall.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay, so we're not watching mannequin. It is called life size.

[Will Friedle]

It's life size.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. Okay. So no, I had nothing as far as seeing it before.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But I was excited to see Tyra Banks and Lindsay Lohan. I love Lindsay Lohan. So I was going, I'm gonna sit through another great movie that Lindsay Lohan did when she was little.

[Will Friedle]

Did you? Well, we'll get into that. I obviously had heard nothing about this. Didn't know anything about it. Never even heard the title. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you very much for this one. And now it's time to bring a beautiful stranger to work. Let's get into the synopsis. A lonely teen accidentally brings a fashion doll to life while trying to resurrect her late mother. Together they navigate friendship, identity, and growing up as the doll learns what it actually means to be human. Early thoughts. Sabrina, what did you think of the movie?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Early thoughts? I had to turn it off for a second because I instantly realized I wasn't in the right mindset to watch it. And I needed. I instantly realized I needed to be. I needed to be in a younger, like watching it as someone maybe a little bit old, like an 8 year old. That's where I felt Like I was going, okay, this isn't. You're not getting into that like age demo of where it is. So I had to stop resetting, sat back down and it did get better because at first I was.

[Will Friedle]

Once you became eight, it got better.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. At first I was like, this doesn't. Like I was noticing too many things right from the beginning. I also recognize too, I have seen the movie Barbie and their take on it of being a very big on comedy aspect of it was like blurring my vision and my thoughts.

[Will Friedle]

I haven't seen Barbie yet. I haven't seen Barbie yet.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So yeah, so I had to reset. I was like, nope, you're not. Not going into this. This is a fan favorite. I know the fans out there are loving it. They're excited for us to rewatch this. Everyone is, because it just came on Disney. Pull your together and start over. And it got. It got better. Immensely, immensely from the beginning. Because at first I was going down, I was going hard. I mean it was going down a steep slope real quick for me.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. This movie for me was again, I have no nostalgia attached to these movies. So I can sit there and say, hey, I'm going to try to watch it like a kid, but I can't, I can't. I'm a almost 50 year old man watching a movie and sometime. So to me, when I'm watching these movies, great movies don't matter how old you are when you watch them.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

Christmas Story is always gonna be a great movie. I don't need to watch it as if I'm eight.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

The zombies movies, Descendants, some of the things we've seen. I don't need to stop and go like that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We just watched.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. I mean there are movies that we've seen that and I don't. And we get some hate online where it's like, you don't understand. You have to watch this movie like you're five. No, I'm sorry. A great movie. I shouldn't have to watch like that. And this movie, a lot of this movie made no sense.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

The things that were happening in this movie were weird and made. I mean, just made no sense. And they're talking about feminism and it's like a lot of the parts of this movie are, hey, if you were just a little prettier, your life's gonna get better. And that's feminism. Like, come on. That's not feminism.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But see if you watch the Barbie movie now, the new it, it, they do it right. It's in highlights. Yes. Even More that this messaging is far from feminism.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And that's what we've been taught as being the correct thing for a very long time. And so that's what I had to research.

[Will Friedle]

This was. This was weird to me. And again, I will say this right off the, right off the bat. If they do a. They put a list together of some of the best child actors of all time, there's no way Lindsay Lohan is not on that list.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Absolutely.

[Will Friedle]

She's great. She is a very competent young actress in this movie and in most of the other movies that I've seen. I know she's had her problems later in life. Thank God she's having a resurgence now. We'll get into that a little bit. But as a young actress and in films like this, she was really good.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So good.

[Will Friedle]

It's the material. And this, this script to me was just very weird.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So let's get into it. Okay. The movie was directed by Mark Rossman, a name we recently put in the spotlight as he was the man behind the decom model behavior, which we liked. Which makes sense to me since they have very similar vibes in the movie thematically. And they definitely do. You can see that he also directed episodes of Even Stevens and Lizzie McGuire, which turned into a very fruitful relationship with Hilary Duff as he teamed up with her in movies A Cinderella Story and the Per man, which contrary to popular belief, is not a documentary about me. And like I said, this movie has a long life thanks to its two main stars. First up, we have 13 year old Lindsay Lohan as Casey Stewart. This was part of Lohan's three picture deal with Disney, the first real fruitful result of a newfound teenage fame. Thanks to her film debut in the Parent Trap, Lohan was one of the brightest stars of her generation and rightfully so. Mean Girls being an absolute classic. And her appearances on SNL are also major standouts. But. But of course, she gained a reputation as a party girl and had hard times in her personal life, as many young stars do. We've seen them all. But luckily for all of us, she's currently in a career resurgence and seems happier than ever. And she looks great. And so, you know, seriously rooting for Lindsay Lohan.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Absolutely.

[Will Friedle]

She recently starred in the Disney hit Freakier Friday and is right back in the Hollywood mix. You said you were a big Lohan fan too, right?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, yes. I mean, she had me at Parent Trap, like hook, line, six, sinker. She's just so good and truly everything that she's in. Yeah, I'LL watch it. I'll absolutely watch it. I will definitely support and I love, you know, everyone loves a comeback story. And, and I'm, I'm happy to be one of the ones rooting for her.

[Will Friedle]

And you until you walk in somebody's shoes. And you know how difficult everybody said, well, you're a big star. You shouldn't have any problems. Again, I was not that level or even close. And so, and that's hard enough. So I couldn't imagine you're dealing with that. You're world famous. It's very difficult when you're young, 11. So it's. Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, my gosh.

[Will Friedle]

Let's give some people a break.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I mean, she got her, it seemed like her stardom hit and when it hit, it exploded.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it hit hard.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So fast. So fast.

[Will Friedle]

And that can be daunting. So. Yes, it is also worth pointing out Lohan's siblings Michael, Aliana and Dakota show up in the movie as uncredited cameos, cheering in the football stand. And then we got Tyra Banks in what was her first starring role. Banks was one of the world's biggest supermodels who had a meteoric rise to fame as the host of America's Next Top Model and her own talk show, the Tyra Banks Show. She also appeared in movies like Higher Learning, Coyote Ugly and Love and Basketball. She most recently appeared on Black Ish in the drama Bel Air. She moved a bit out of the spotlight, but it's still, it's Tyra Banks. And she was also great. And she's just distractingly good looking.

[Sabrina Bryan]

My goodness. It was again, just like Sarah Jessica Parker in Hocus Pocus. Every time she comes on scene, you're like, God, you just take my breath away. It's like, it's not like, I don't know. Tyra Banks is a gorgeous woman, but this movie, it's staggering. Everything about her was just insane.

[Will Friedle]

It was staggering. Yep. Amazing. Wow. And then we got veteran character actor Jerry Burns is Ben Stewart, Casey's dad. He is best known as Wynne Duffy from the TV show Justified. But his long list of projects goes from Hill Street Blues, Great show and Blossom Great show to Lucifer and Burn Notice. And the rest of the cast is mostly rounded out with less familiar faces. But I did want to point out Gillian Farghee as Ellen and Magical Rewinders, though, might remember her from the first Xenon movie where she played a reporter. Okay, so maybe you don't remember her, but either way, she was in Xenon. Yeah, she's in Xenon, so we're bringing it full circle. Yes, we know the movie is life sized, but is it too long? Well, let's find out. Life size runs 101 minutes. Brutal result. You hate to see it 11 minutes over the target, which is painfully over the top and disrespectful. I will try my hardest to move on, but I feel as though my good name has been besmirched.

[Sabrina Bryan]

The disrespectful.

[Will Friedle]

Disrespectful to me personally.

[Sabrina Bryan]

My time and energy.

[Will Friedle]

101 minutes. Like I'm just pulling time off of trees. Yikes. Life Size writing credits are split between the director, Rossman and Stephanie Moore. Moore's only real writing credit is Life Size one, and then she got the character credit in the sequel.

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[Will Friedle]

And now let's get your tiny little convertible ready because Sunnyvale is always 80 degrees and NASA is waiting. Let's get into life size. We're thrown right into a retro commercial for a doll named Eve. Very Barbie coded, gallivanting on the beach. She's catching waves in Sunnyvale, driving a convertible to flirt with boys and going to the mall. We hear the upbeat Be a Star theme song. And overall, Eve seems like she's kind of got her together career wise. She can be a doctor or a cop or a homemaker, while at night she can attend an elegant ball with a handsome man friend. And then, boom. We are instantly thrown into real life. A group of girls are checking out Eve dolls in the window of a toy store. The youngest doesn't want one. She wants something with quote unquote microchips. She walks off, depressing the shop owner. Now we're on a football field. The players of Windsor are stinking up the joint, yelling at each other after dropped pass. And when it was a drop pass, I mean, this dude, it's like, sorry to hit you in the hands, bro. I mean, dude, I get that. But you're wide open and wow, maybe, maybe make him a lineman. Cause that guy, he's got hands like feet. The qb. Then Casey Stewart is taken out of the game by the coach for a bad attitude. As Casey takes off a helmet, she's revealed to be a girl. Lindsay Lohan, to be specific. And I thought that was kind of a cool reveal of the character. Yeah, the receiver who goes by the last name Weiner and Casey continue to bicker as they walk off the field. With Casey being told to go home and play with her dolls now on the bench. The coach is not happy. The behavior has to stop. It's just a game. She looks to the stands and unfortunately doesn't spot any of her family members. There and that's because her dad, Ben, is busy at work, just realizing he's missed her game. He's clearly bummed. His co workers try to make him feel better. And this is where we start getting some of the weirdest co workers in history.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Co workers of life. He's H and R. Oh, my God.

[Will Friedle]

It's a nightmare.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, my God.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, he's been busy trying to make partner. And Casey will understand, but he's not buying it. His pretty coworker Drew. Drew. They're like in a meeting and is just openly hitting on him, essentially, you know, offers to make him and his daughter dinner as an opportunity to relax. He politely passes. Tomorrow's Casey's birthday, and he promises her opportunity to relax.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Opportunity to hop in his bed.

[Will Friedle]

Like I'm saying.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Relax.

[Will Friedle]

It's a little much. Yeah. But he says tomorrow's Casey's birthday, and he's promised her a night alone together once Drew leaves. His then super pervy male co worker Richie is impressed by the obvious possible date he could have agreed to. But Ben says even two years later, he's not ready to move on, even though Karen would have wanted him to. And yes, ladies and gentlemen, we've got a dead mom alert. That night, Casey is working on her computer, looking at resurrection spells on a very budget Internet 1.0 website. You know, like young teen girls did in the year 2000. She's looking to bring back a lost soul and is suggested a book called Holes. A book of the Dead Life Reborn. She finds a nearby store that has it in stock. It's called Past pages. And as a book nerd, when she walked into that store, I was like, oh, God, I just want to stay here for two hours. That's worth 101 minutes. Her dad returns home from work, and she quickly hides her research. She jumps into bed and wishes him a good night. Ben knows he needs to apologize, but for her, the time has long passed for him to apologize. He congratulates her on the win. The championship game is now next week, but she doesn't expect him to attend at all. We can see that this is obviously something that's been going on for a while.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Her dad explains that making partners a big deal for him and the family, so she. He doesn't make any promises, but says either way, Sunday will just be them for their birthday. She asks if everything happens for a reason. And with his dead wife obviously on their mind, he says some things just happen. Casey looks at a framed picture of her dead moments and then cries herself to Sleep. It's a very rough way to start a movie. Yes. The next day, those same four girls who were checking out Eve's dolls at the start of the movie are walking down the street. Once again, their conversation is interrupted as she walks towards them. The youngest girl tells her older sister and her older sister's friends to be nice, but they aren't. They say she needs to just get over her dead mom. And one girl asks her to join her at the mall, but Casey quickly declines. She says there's more to life than shopping. I couldn't agree more. Shopping is the worst. Also, get over your dead mom. It was like, yikes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Damn. I know. I mean, and I know girls at certain ages can be harsh, but. Or just a little aloof, like not realizing. But anyone that has ever had anyone they know, even if it's just an acquaintance that has had a family member, you know, pass away, has the ability to have some empathy. This girl was just a jerk.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, exactly. After ditching her old friend, she makes her way to the bookstore and then goes to the occult section and metaphysics section, which is hidden in the back like an adult movie closet.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right, right.

[Will Friedle]

It's like she had to sneak in. Like, what the hell?

[Sabrina Bryan]

You never go past if there's hanging beads. You always know you stay on the first side. You never go past them because there are not good things behind anybody.

[Will Friedle]

Anybody who loves literature will tell you books can be dangerous. There's some dangerous books out there, but yes, there aren't. Thankfully any adult movies. But thankfully for her, just the book she was looking for. But It's a whopping $150 and she only has 63. And so she does what any God fearing young girl would do. She steals it. Perfect. The owner eventually finds an IOU note for it and she runs off. That night, Casey's in bed learning how to resurrect a dead person. And now it's the next day. It's Casey's birthday. Her dad videos her celebrating with a cake. She makes a wish and blows out the candles, telling her dad she wished for her mom to somehow come back. And I think we're all in the same boat. I thought at the second it happened that if you tell someone your wish, it doesn't come true. That's just science.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Of course. What an idiot. What an idiot.

[Will Friedle]

That's who. Who, who blows out the candles and goes, you know what I wished for? Nobody does that. That movie. The movie lost me at that point. I'm kidding. It lost me right at the Beginning. No, I'm kidding. Her dad tells her that magic isn't real. Life doesn't work that way. Which is what their therapist has also told them. Casey is critical of her dad. He never talks about mom, and on cue, he changes the subject. He shows her some old super bowl tickets. They reminisce about that day and hanging out with her mom. And that's when the doorbell rings. It's that pretty co worker, Drew, who obviously can't take a hint.

[Sabrina Bryan]

He.

[Will Friedle]

You know, she's saying he forgot something at the office, and now she reminds him that he promised to review her draft, which is, believe it or not, not a euphemism. He invites her in, and she wishes Casey a happy birthday. It's like, I'm gonna be your mother, damn it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I know. And here's a big, really weird.

[Will Friedle]

It's weird. It's weird. She hands over a gift, and it's a special limited edition Eve doll. She's wearing a bright orange outfit and can talk. Casey obviously isn't impressed. She's too old for dolls. And she's too old for dolls. I get where they're going, and I get. They added the line. Well, I. I didn't play with dolls either, but I started collecting them when I was your age. It was like, I get what you're doing, But a You push in. The guy has already said, I don't want to see you right once. Then he said, it's my daughter's birthday, and I'm spending the day with her by myself. She still shows up.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Not like you forgot that it was. Oh, I. I forgot it was. I forgot it's her birthday. No. You know, because you brought a present.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You purposely tried to ruin this young girl's birthday who is suffering from the loss of her mother.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Go away and never come back. Thank you, Drew.

[Will Friedle]

It was really, really off putting this character.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So pushy. So pushy.

[Will Friedle]

And gets worse. And gets worse.

[Sabrina Bryan]

What were you. What?

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[Sabrina Bryan]

I just. To me, what was your thought process you thought you were gonna get.

[Will Friedle]

How did this work? And again. So, okay, so now she's alone in her room. She throws the Eve doll on her shelf and goes back to reading that intricate resurrection spell and constructing some sort of magic pentagram. She needs a remnant from the person she's trying to bring back, so she finds her mom's old hairbrush. Now, how do we know it's her mom's old hairbrush? Because she holds it and whispers, mom's brush.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Also, that's not your mom's hairbrush. That's your great grandma from, like 300 years ago. That brush was such an antique.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Was that thou brush?

[Sabrina Bryan]

My. I will say my grandma had a brush, a set like that. She had a pretty little box. It was a pretty set back in the day. And a mirror and a puff.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But, like, that wasn't as much.

[Will Friedle]

No. Yes. And it's still. Obviously the brush has her mom's hair in it. She talks out loud to herself again, asking for her mom to show up for her one more time. The spell's ready, but it only worked once. And then there's a knock at the door of her bedroom. And it's Drew, her father's co worker, who's just trying to take her spot as her mom, coming into her bedroom and trying to salvage the night with the daughter of the guy she wants to bang. It's so off putting. Oh.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And it's like, why are you still here? Why are you still here?

[Will Friedle]

It is so. And now I'm gonna go in and talk to your daughter. Like, who the are you, lady?

[Sabrina Bryan]

And where is her dad? I was pissed at her dad.

[Will Friedle]

Thank you.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Why is this woman going anywhere near you? Obviously know she tried. She's trying to be polite by taking herself out of this awkward situation that your person has pushed themselves into. Now you're allowing her to take her. Like, she looked like she had a jacket on, too, or something. Like she looks a little bit more comfortable at some point. I can't remember exactly. But you're going to let her go up stairs to your kid's room where your kid's just trying to have a moment like, okay, yeah, I. I don't.

[Will Friedle]

So anyway, dad is pissing me off.

[Sabrina Bryan]

He's getting close to being on our.

[Will Friedle]

Damn list, I'm telling you. So she's impressed with Casey's room and goes to examine one of her trophies and just then accidentally drops a football, causing chaos around her magic pentagram. Everything goes flying from the shelf, including the Eve doll. Casey is obviously upset, packs up her magic altar and walks out as Drew apologizes. And for magic altar, yeah, she does. Takes it away. And now, for no reason at all, now alone, Drew uses Casey's dead mom's brush to proudly comb Eve's hair. And now the comb has Eve's hair in it. It is an insane chain of events with an awful character who's pushing herself on this poor little girl who is just trying to get through her mother's death. And we're like 12 minutes into this movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. We are. I'm like, holy cow. This is gonna be such a long night. Like, oh, my God, I'm so irritated. Oh, I'm so.

[Will Friedle]

It was just. And I know people are gonna come at us.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Come at me.

[Will Friedle]

Justify this to me. I want to hear you justify this to me.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Because, yeah, there are. There are just some significant parts throughout the movie where there are moments like this where you're going, what is happening? Right.

[Will Friedle]

It's unhinged. It's. It's unhinged. And again, it's unfortunate, because this is. I'm gonna keep saying this this entire time. Lindsay Lohan's great.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Lindsay Lohan's great.

[Will Friedle]

She's great.

[Sabrina Bryan]

She's so good. Like, even how she, like, responds to the awkward situation. And when she comes in, her freak out is the exact way I would imagine someone her age would freak out on somebody. I mean, she's spot on. Spot on.

[Will Friedle]

Yep. So she then places the Eve on a nightstand, forcing the doll into this poor young girl's life. When Casey returns, Drew apologizes because she's obviously still in her room, wishing her a happy birthday and mercifully leaving. So now, with everything calm, Casey returns to the spell. She lights a candle and recites the words, zamba tarka ishtu nabarum. I hope I didn't just bring somebody back.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

I'm like, oh, geez, my God, I have a GI Joe next to me. I'm gonna wake up with this giant GI Joe in my bed.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You've got a lot in the back there that can wake up.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly. Yikes. The Ron Stoppable doll is gonna come to life and kill me. So she keeps saying it, keeps doing it, keeps doing it. And the spellbook starts to shake and glow, and so does Eve. Everything starts to glitter and glow, and Eve eventually falls off the nightstand. The next morning, Casey's asleep in bed, still chanting the spell. And in bed with her. It's human. Eve half asleep. Okay, this is where the movie when I was like, so Drew then also messed up. She really could have resurrected her mom?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think so.

[Will Friedle]

Why not? She also said the book says you can only do it once. Is that once per book or once per person? Because if it works, why at the end wouldn't she say, dad, the resurrection spell worked. Why don't you do it and actually bring mom back?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Well, I. No. Okay. Why not? Okay. I don't think it was to bring. It doesn't necessarily mean that it'd be bringing mom back. I believe that the idea is that to bring mom back through some way. So it could have been a cat? It could have been what? Yeah, I. That's how I took it. Not bringing the actual human back, bringing her soul back. So I felt like. I thought this movie was going like her soul was in the body of this.

[Will Friedle]

No, she was trying to resurrect her mom. And instead, the one thing that she needed, the hair, Was now the hair of the doll. So the doll came to life. So if it was still her mom's hair, she would have resurrected her mom? Correct.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But I thought it was the mix between the mom and the doll hair.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, see, no, I don't think so. I think that's.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That's where I was going. That's what I thought.

[Will Friedle]

Well, but that it didn't play out because she says I'm Eve, and she's.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. No, it didn't. But that's what I thought was gonna happen. This is the first time I'.

[Will Friedle]

This made no sense to me because then I was like, well, wait, so then the resurrection spell would have worked. So Drew forced herself into your life, forced herself into your room, and then messed up an actual opportunity for you to resurrect your mom. And then when you find out the resurrection spell does work, you don't tell your dad at the end to get the book and actually resurrect your mom, like, what it did. That's why I was just going, what? Wait, so it worked? She really could have resurrected her mom?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

I don't either.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Not where we went. That's not what.

[Will Friedle]

No, we did not. Because she wakes up next to a human.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Eve's mom is coming through this doll. She's gonna realize it's the mom. And then I find out, no, that's not it. So then I'm really confused.

[Will Friedle]

Thank you. So she's half asleep. Casey assumes it's her mom, only to open her eyes and scream. She grabs a bat and immediately puts two and two together. It's Eve. The beautiful supermodel of a human is in fancy red dress and proclaims that Casey is her special friend. Eve quickly learns her ankles and wrists move, all articulations that didn't exist in the doll. Casey can't believe what she's done. Now she'll never be able to bring back her mom. But Eve is thrilled. Casey rushes to the book to see if she can reverse the spell. But that's in volume two. And then her dad pops in. Eve eagerly wants to know who that is, but Casey blocks The door. If he finds out about Eve, he'll send her back to the psychiatrist, which seems like the least of her problems. But okay, he reminds his daughter. It's their day together. But obviously his daughter has other things to tend to. He hears Eve's voice and is confused, but gives her some time alone. Anyway, Eve is investigating the room and starts blasting music and watching tv. Everything is so fascinating, but she wonders where all of her clothes and accessories are. Casey breaks it to her. She's going to be a doll again once she gets her hands on volume two of the spellbook. This movie is weird now because, again. So Eve knows she's the doll the whole time.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

But can't move her wrists and arms or move in any way, shape or form. So she's just trapped, soulless in a doll.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

So it's hell. It's literal hell.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right. And this is where I'm telling you, when you've. If you've seen the move. The Barbie movie.

[Will Friedle]

Right, but we can't.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We can't do that. Correct. I know, but it's very hard to not compare and contrast because I've never seen it the way they do. It makes sense. They explain it. And there's a thing that makes sense about it. This does not.

[Will Friedle]

This doesn't. This doesn't. I don't get it. So now, out in the town and on their way to the magic store, which is the bookstore, Eve is stumbling around, taking everything in. She smells a rose for the first time and loves it. Then she smells trash and she hates it. Back at home, Casey's dad walks into a room and sees the spell book, the $150 receipt, and a bookmark with the store's name. And over at that same bookstore, Casey, who remember stole the book, sends Eve inside to get the second volume, but they don't have it in stock. The owner explains to Eve he had volume one, but a young girl stole it. Eve excitedly tells him she knows who that girl is and walks him outside to meet her, which is funny. Casey runs off, knowing she's about to get busted, and Eve follows close behind. And then in the chase, Casey trips and falls in the middle of the street. And now a huge truck is speeding towards her that's still nine miles away from her. He honks over and over again, but doesn't actually hit the brakes at all.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Hit the brake at all.

[Will Friedle]

He had three days to stop the truck.

[Sabrina Bryan]

At least a block.

[Pets Best Advertiser]

I don't know.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Three days, but at least a block.

[Will Friedle]

Eve holds out her hand, finally Getting him to pump the brakes and stop right before her palm. Casey's dad sees it all. He rushes to embrace his daughter. He was returning the book that he found, but is so thankful for Eve, who says, it was nothing. I was a police officer. And that was funny. It's the first kind of genuine laugh of the movie. It's like bringing that back. Very funny. This is again where it just gets so weird. Casey's dad introduces himself, and Eve gets to flirting with him quick. And an agitated Casey runs off again. We're now back at home. Casey's passed out on the couch and ice packed to her head. She eventually wakes up and her dad informs her that she fainted. Casey assumes she had a nightmare about a doll coming to life. But when she sees Eve still at her house, the reality sinks in. The living doll suggests they go to the mall. So the trio, of course, that's what you do now. Pile into Ben's car. And Eve is fascinated by the convertible. And we find ourselves in a true relic of culture. A early 2000s mall. It's packed. It has a water fountain. Eve loves it. Everyone is having a blast at the mall. It's like the greatest place anyone has ever been. Everything in her hometown of Sunnyvale is plastic, and she has no idea where she's even going to stay Now. Eve gets on her first escalator like she's a fawn taking her first steps and finds a Betsey Johnson dress in a store window. She doesn't have a credit card, so Ben suggests giving her a loan and offering her the guest house, which was his dead wife's old studio, as temporary housing. He's known this woman for a total of, like, 45 minutes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

And he's giving her money and moving her into their home. I wasn't yelling at the screen at this point, but I was like, what is this story? Like, what the hell is this story? I don't want to date. I'm not ready to move on. I'm not spending enough time with my daughter. Total stranger I meet on the street, moving her into my home and giving her money in 45 minutes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

It is such a crazy story. And this is all script. The acting, fine.

[Sabrina Bryan]

The Tyra Banks.

[Will Friedle]

Great. What is this story?

[Sabrina Bryan]

The script. But also, like, as. As anything. Even if you could try to get some weight behind it, there were no real questions of her life in general at all. Like, just a few. It wasn't like she had a chance, but she was telling him any kind of life story that he would be Feeling empathetic towards. Except for the fact that she has no money and doesn't know where she's going to stay.

[Will Friedle]

She's pretty and homeless.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, those are the only tidbits.

[Will Friedle]

And it's like, that's it. You don't know nothing about this woman.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I couldn't help but think of now in 2025, feeling like this is a scam artist, like just lunching onto a poor man in every way possible.

[Will Friedle]

I just really like you and your family. And if you could give me your Social Security number, that would be great. Yeah. Really crazy. So, yeah. Casey obviously can't believe what he's doing and rightfully so. And then he pulls away by taking a call on his flip phone. So we'll leave her with the total stranger. Eve rushes off to buy clothes and judge women in fur coats. Eve, who loves fashion, is clashing with tomboy Casey, who knows this is all Drew's fault. And now, with a ton of options in hand. True. Eve wants. No, exactly, Drew. And now, with a ton of options in hand, Eve wants Casey to dress her. The stranger. No one's ever dressed me. You need to dress me. So then we have a montage of beautiful Tyra Banks trying on outfits. And you are assuming being stripped naked and redressed by a 13 year old girl every time. Oh, God, come after me. Please come after me and tell me why I'm wrong about this movie. I will. Again, I've said this before. I will take your criticism and I will wrap them like a warm blanket around myself.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Luckily, you know, I usually. We usually want to see things that prove that. Not just having to, you know, expect or, you know, assume. I am so lucky for a very first time, probably that they didn't show us scenes.

[Washington Post Advertiser]

Yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Lindsay Lohan.

[Will Friedle]

Thank God.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Dressing Tyra Banks.

[Will Friedle]

Dressing Tyra Banks. Undressing and dressing a supermodel. Because. Because Tyra Banks needed someone to dress her. So eventually, they're joined by Ben, who's clearly attracted to one of the most beautiful supermodels in the world, who's just appeared with his daughter and doesn't mind that apparent. Hopefully he doesn't know that she's been stripping her naked and dressing her in other things. This stranger. The trio go to lunch together, and Eve eats for the first time. When Ben offers her butter for her bread, she just eats the entire square. So if you were Casey's dad, what would you do now? I mean, this seems like an insane reaction to everything that's happening. Am I wrong?

[Sabrina Bryan]

No.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

In all Honesty. I mean, as much as I am watching it and I am clocking it, I'm putting them down into my notes. This is insane. I just, I'm trying so hard because again, I want to like this movie knowing that the nostalgia is there for so many. It's hard.

[Will Friedle]

It is. There has to be more than. There has to be more than. I liked this movie when I was 8 to make something great. I'm sorry. There does. And we're seeing that all the time with the movies that we're watching because there's. There's plenty of films that we are watching that I am watching as an old man that are great movies. That it does not matter what age you are, they're just good. And you might have nostalgia attached to this, but I would hope that you would also be able to, as a fan, look at something with nostalgia. And because again, one of the biggest problems I'm having with our entire country and world right now, not to go off on a little rant, is the fact that people are forgetting that two things can be simultaneously true.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Correct.

[Will Friedle]

So you can have nostalgia for a movie that you loved when you were a kid and still watch it as an adult and go, this is not a good movie. I loved it as a kid. But this is crazy. Without. Take the nostalgia away. Not a good movie. So it can't just be. You don't understand. This was awesome when I was 11.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right? Because it can be true. It could have been awesome to you as an 11 year old. But then when you look back at.

[Will Friedle]

It, you gotta see it for what.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It is you see and go, oh, I didn't realize that happened. Oh God, this is kind of funny. Or exactly make sense at all.

[Pets Best Advertiser]

Wow.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And also to know, because we progress back when this movie was filmed, these things of being with a stranger and stuff like, not that they weren't. They weren't heightened like they are now. You would never do that now with a kid. You would never leave your kid in a store being walked around by a.

[Will Friedle]

Stranger or just invite a stranger into your home and then give them money 45 minutes after meeting them.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It was.

[Will Friedle]

It's so. I hope people see what I'm saying, that it's. I know you're going to come for me and be like, life size is the best movie ever. It's not. It's. It mattered to you as a kid. That's different than it being a good movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And on all. In all honesty, you could also understand too that you were just a really big Lindsay Lohan fan or you really like? Same thing. Like you could be a big, you know, Justin Timberlake fan.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And then watch something that he did years ago and go, this isn't very good. Yeah, this was, you know.

[Will Friedle]

And again, Lindsay Lohan's great. She's great in this and was one of the best young actors of her generation. If you're looking for an 11 or 12 year old girl, you're not going to get a better casting than Lindsay Lohan. There's a reason she was signing these deals. She's great. This movie is not.

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[Will Friedle]

Well, Ben does want to know more about Sunnyvale, which She explains, is the best place ever where she's great at a lot of different jobs. And coincidentally, Ben needs an assistant, because why not? I've known you 45 minutes. I'm also going to give you a job, which is a great opportunity for you. Not doesn't know anything about her background. He's a lawyer. The idea that being it's also. It sounds so stupid, but it's like, disrespectful to women that are administrative assistants in law firms, where it's like, oh, yeah, you could do this. Kind of like, come on, I just met you. You could easily do. It's ridiculous.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I couldn't imagine. I know. I couldn't even.

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[Will Friedle]

These are really difficult jobs.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. You have to go to school to be like, somebody's administrative assistant or a lawyer handling the kinds of things, the paperwork. You have to know all of that is not just answering call, pushing them to the next room.

[Will Friedle]

That's not what it is. It's. There's a lot involved. And so he needs an assistant. Great opportunity for Eve. She accepts the offer, but explains her real job is to inspire girls to strive for womanhood and positivity, because girls should know anything is possible. Ben likes that his dead wife also felt the same way. She says the men back in Sunnyvale are stiff and calls Ben the most interesting man she's ever met. Casey senses what's happening here and doesn't like it at all. Ben leaves for the restroom and Casey threatens Eve to stay away. That night, Casey logs into the bookstore website and finds out that volume two will arrive in a week, but she only has three days. Meanwhile, in the guest house, Eve is watching TV and loves an old movie where a woman slaps a frisky suitor but eventually lands on qvc. Back in the main house, Casey tells her dad the truth about the spell and Eve, and he doesn't believe it, rightfully so. A lot of women are named Eve, and though she's odd, there's something sweet about her. A frustrated Casey promises she'll prove it and rushes into her room. She finds Eve's certificate of authenticity with the doll's number and thinks maybe that can help her case. And now it's the next day. Ben brings Eve to work, of course, which correctly creeps out all of his law firm co workers. This truly appears to be some sort of like a sex trafficking situation. Who knows? It's just weird. Ben asks the office manager to log Eve into the employee database, but that will require some info, like her last Name? She says she doesn't have one, which is wrong, because Barbie does have a last name. Do you know what it is?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Mattel.

[Will Friedle]

No.

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[Sabrina Bryan]

How do you know that?

[Will Friedle]

I know.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Where did you. Where did you read that?

[Will Friedle]

I know a little bit about. I've. I'm a bearer of useless knowledge. And Barbie's last name is Roberts. Check it out. And her previous position? She says sitting, which was another actually funny laugh. But now Eve is ready for work. She's going to be Ben's receptionist, but is most just intrigued by a screensaver and deleting important files. And that's when horny coworker. Yeah, Richard from Richie from earlier spots Eve and is so excited, he offers to help and restores all the files. And just as this creep ball goes into hyperdrive, Ben returns. He needs Eve in his office, where she offers him a massage for his stiff neck. He loves it, but worries the workplace isn't the right place for this. You think? And that's exactly when Drew, our favorite lady, walks in. And she's rightfully creeped out by what she sees, and she should be.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I honestly don't know why she's so inappropriate in the workplace. I mean, what's this? How is this any different than anything you've done? You've literally hit on him right at the end of a meeting.

[Will Friedle]

And I guess there is a very real chance I'm just an idiot. And I'm fully prepared to accept the fact that I'm just an idiot. I did not see this as a feminist kind of trope. To me, in this movie. I didn't. I saw this as kind of belittling women a little bit in certain parts of this film. That's just me. I'm sure I'm getting that wrong. And a bunch of people are gonna come and tell me exactly why. It was a feminist thing. The massages, the you should be prettier, all that stuff. None of that seemed feminist to me.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think, of its time. I don't remember it that much, but I'm assuming it was more relevant, made more sense of the time that this movie was made.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, maybe, but this is not 1989. This is 2000.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, yeah, but still, I mean, this is.

[Will Friedle]

I know it's a long time ago, but it's a big difference. Anyway, then we get a montage of Eve at work, which includes her just typing nonsense into her computer shredding papers and making blank copies. Things are not working out the way that Eve imagined. The office manager has seen enough. She calls a cab for Eve to leave. But the new receptionist just didn't get it. Back in Sunnyvale, Eve never fails. The office manager, who they have dressed up and made to look like a bridge troll, explains that you just can't be good at everything. Everyone has their own talent. And in one of the weirdest decom turns ever, she says if she looked half as good as Eve, she could get the guy at the office that she wants. And so Eve sees the opportunity for a makeover. She breaks out the makeup, goes to work, and around two minutes later, the office manager is scared. Stunning.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This was a big jump out to me.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Again, I. If you're your. Your life would be better if you were just prettier, then you could get the guy at the office that you.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Want to get who will obviously be make your. Your world won't be happy until you have the guy.

[Will Friedle]

The guy who. And the only ways you're getting the guy is not by working hard or being good at your job or doing any of that stuff, which you obviously worked your stuff to do that. It's by being pretty. The cab does arrive, but Eve has won over the office manager, who might actually be a different actress. She looks so different. She's not, obviously, but she stunningly different.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And on the other side of town, Casey has arrived at the toy store where Drew bought Eve. The store clerk explains that every doll has the corresponding registration on the bottom of her foot. It can never be removed. Casey finally sees this as a way to prove that Eve isn't human. It's also a big mistake, because wouldn't every doll have a different number? Isn't that the point? That's how you know that's your doll.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. Well, in the posters they're showing and all the stuff they're showing, it's the same number that's on the bottom of her foot. So she doesn't have a different number than all the numbers they're showing. They all have the same registration number.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, I took it as. Because she's like the original.

[Will Friedle]

Really?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. That's how I. Again.

[Will Friedle]

So she got doll one of one and open the box. What an idiot.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Collector's item.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Drew tried to tell her, but Drew's.

[Will Friedle]

The one who opened it and put her on her stand and did all. It's like, what are you doing, dude? Yes. Okay. So Casey finally sees this as a way to prove that Eve isn't human. So once at home, she's quick to pull off Eve's shoe and spot the tattoo. Now her exhibit A. Eve begs her not to show Ben yet. She's going to a work party tonight with that creepo Richard. She loves parties and wants to have a little fun before turning back into a doll. And so that night we find ourselves at the law office shindig. Ben and Drew are there when Richie arrives with his very hot Tyra Banks. Drew hopes her self defense skills are better than her office skills, inferring that Richie is probably going to try to assault her later. That that was the joke. Like I hope she can fight him off. I mean, Jesus, I'm not getting what everybody else is getting. It's my problem. I know it's my problem. I know it's my problem. Eve immediately goes to town on the buffet while Drew and Ben slow dance to soft jazz on the dance floor. But Drew can sense his mind is somewhere else. The two couples eventually meet up to say hi and Eve wants to dance with Ben. She rushes him to the floor and they start to samba, but Eve can't keep up. And Derek Hough would hate this dance.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, absolutely.

[Will Friedle]

Four. Thank you. Eve doesn't get it. In Sunnyvale, she's the best ballroom dancer. Ben takes over and leads because apparently he is an expert and the two look great together. His co workers love it while all the co workers except Drew, who knows she can't compete. And even Ben is taken aback. He tells Eve that when he's with her, he forgets all about his problems. She emphasizes that life should be fun. Now back with Richie, he sees a real love square starting to take shape as the dirt ball starts badmouthing his close friend and praising her body. She notes she's anatomically correct and now she's speaking Richie's language. Language. He suggests they get out of here. And she slaps him like she saw in the movie. She doesn't know why, she just thought she was supposed to do that because he was being forward. And yes, Eve, you're right. And we were right to slap him. Richie apologizes and Eve explains that women will love him for being himself, not a sleaze bag. Great message. He takes it to heart and calls it the most honest thing anyone's ever said to him. The band announces they're taking requests, so Eve rushes to the stage and asks if they know Be a Star the doll's theme. The keyboardist doesn't, but suggests if you sing it, we can follow because bands love that Eve accepts the challenge and starts belting out the jingle. Now, Tyra, who did fancy herself a bit of a singer in real life, is very, very pitchy, but goes all out. If she was supposed to be singing badly on purpose, I don't know, but nothing pointed to that. It just wasn't particularly good. Sorry, I apologize. It's not good singing. The band joins in as she gives off a real pick me girl energy. She encourages everyone to dance, singling out a very important judge and grinding up against him. But the entire party has fallen in love with her, joining in and dancing along. Eve is infectious, just like herpes. Also, Richie spots someone. It's now the beautiful office manager, Ellen. He's so impressed with her now because she's pretty. Richie, the grossest human being ever depicted in a dcom. He's gotta be likes her. And it turns out he was the guy she wanted to notice her. So later that night, Ben returns home with Eve from a night they'll never forget. Casey is asleep on the couch, and on their way to the guest house, they start pointing out constellations. They gaze at the romantic moon. And Eve explains that there's only one thing missing from this perfect evening. The tension builds as they get closer to one another. And just as they're about to kiss, they're interrupted by a crying Casey. She screams, dad, how could you? And Eve doesn't understand why Casey's eyes are wet. The young girl runs into her room. Ben explains nothing happened and he's not falling in love with her. Casey can't believe he let Eve stay in the guest house fair because it used to be her mom's special place. She tells her dad she hates him. The next day at football practice, Casey calls her receiver Wienerhead again. She's benched by the coach, even though tomorrow is the big championship game. And just as things look their bleakest, Eve arrives in the loudest green raincoat and handkerchief wrapped around her head, she looks like the green M and M trying to disguise herself as human. She comes to watch Casey play and learn more about water in her eyes. Casey explains what crying is, but Eve still doesn't get it. Why was she so sad? Being human seems so easy and fun to her. Sabrina's still laughing. It's true.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's like under my rib cage.

[Will Friedle]

It's true.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It was so good, Will. Oh, my God. The size, the cream.

[Will Friedle]

It's true. You'd never know it, would you?

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[Will Friedle]

Casey says real life isn't actually perfect. Bad things happen. People you love can just disappear forever. Like her mom. She was fine. Then she went in for a checkup and they found something. Then she was gone and nothing's ever been the same. Now, these scenes were great. You still. Sabrina's still laughing about the. We're talking about horrible things and she's still picturing the green. Mm, Sorry.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm sorry. I tried. I'm trying to pull it together. Okay.

[Will Friedle]

It's very funny.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So funny, so random.

[Will Friedle]

It's also true. Okay, so these scenes, though, very nice. When it's just Lindsay Lohan and Tyra Banks acting. Great, fine.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I know I'm feeling the same way. This was like an up and down roller coaster. Like we just came off of. Of Tyra's routine and then went into, like, this, where I'm kind of like, okay, all right.

[Will Friedle]

I just breezed past it because I didn't want you to get hate too. But what did you think of Tyra singing in her dancing?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I might have to delete this.

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[Sabrina Bryan]

Hello, Jensen.

[Will Friedle]

Hi.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Is it bad on purpose?

[Will Friedle]

I don't think so.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I don't think so. This is. The notes that I have is again, I don't remember Tyra going for any kind of, like, record situation or, like, wanting to be in music, so.

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[Will Friedle]

Sabrina, she had a record.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I don't remember that. I don't remember that. Because the thing about it, when I say it, when I watched it and saw it and then my notes say the voice and the song, it didn't even seem like they put much effort into producing this song. The song wasn't that great, I guess. Guess. Also because it's compared to Bewitched and the other girl groups and stuff, but. So the production didn't seem the same. So that was confusing. But also, like, the way she performs, like, she knows how to perform. But the voice didn't match for me, like, the performance, so I couldn't even really tell it. Is that her voice? I didn't know it was her voice.

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[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh.

[Will Friedle]

Oh. That I'd like to hear.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm gonna need Lisa. Lisa, why are you there? We've gotta find this. Holy cow. So no, it was a miss for me for sure. Because again, the song didn't seem to match what she was doing naturally with her body. She can move. She can move and she can perform. So it was confusing to me. But anyway, we move on to the. We move on to the green Eminem scene. And this is what I was going. Okay, like you said, anytime. It's just Tyra and Lindsey or. You know what I mean, like, the thick of the plot. I'M going, all right, we're going somewhere. We're thinking this. I keep having the hopes that this is gonna kind of turn around. So that's where I'm at at this scene.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. We're hoping to turn it around in this scene.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So my hopes are high. I'm climbing up the roller coaster yet again, hoping that I'm gon.

[Will Friedle]

I, I love it. I have already been vomiting halfway through the ride. Yes. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to bash this movie. I'm really not. I just. I, I, I, I. It's. This was just so strange. Anyway, Eve admits maybe she doesn't know much about being human, but what happened to Casey's mom isn't fair and no one can ever replace her. Eve has an idea and tells Casey to meet her back at the house. Meanwhile, at the law office, Ben is ready for his big deposition tomorrow. It's his final step to becoming a partner. But Drew has other things undermined, like Eve's work application that lists her past experience as NASA, the police, and being a doctor. Drew is concerned. And being a real player hater, Ben insists she's harmless. Drew admits she may be jealous, but doesn't want him and Casey to get hurt. On her way out, Ben says, it's nice to know you're jealous.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay, now we're really confusing.

[Will Friedle]

It's just confusing because to me, up.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Till this point, I'm not thinking Ben is interested in her.

[Will Friedle]

No, he's not. He's made it very plain that he is not interested in her. And she's still barging into the house.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And everything in the sense of. It's not that he's just not ready. He's not interested in her.

[Will Friedle]

That's just not.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Just not that he's not ready.

[Will Friedle]

No, it's like he.

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[Will Friedle]

Yeah, right, right. Like, they just didn't. They. Yeah, they just didn't. Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And after the whole situation with the moon and the kiss, like, he was clearly interested in this. So what has now all of a sudden flipped that it's like, oh, yeah, that's right. I'm not gonna just crush my daughter's dreams with, like, kissing one of these ladies. I'm gonna go ahead and start flirting with this other one who is awful.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Anyway, we're now back home in the kitchen. Eve is ready to cook. She had a magic recipe book in Sunnyvale, but now she'll have to improvise, and that quickly becomes a disaster. Eve is breaking down and the kitchen's on fire when Casey returns home. Once the flames have been extinguished, Eve calls herself stupid and realizes she can't do anything well in real life life. Casey breaks the tension by joking around, and the two are finally starting to click as pals. That night, they have a little slumber party, and Eve admits she's hardly helped any girls yet. She thinks she's been a disappointment. Casey tries to cheer her up, but Eve says it's not easy trying to be perfect. Casey says her mom used to say it's not about being perfect. It's about trying your best. Good motto. Eve is starting to get it a little bit, but knows that Casey isn't happy. She encourages Casey to talk to her friends. Her mom would want her to open up. Up. They hug just as Ben peaks in the door. Seeing this real moment of connection, he interrupts him because it's way past Casey's bedtime. Once she's asleep, Ben thanks Eve for being so kind. He hasn't seen his daughter smile like that in forever. But Eve wants to tell him something. She went to Casey's football practice, and it's obvious his absence is affecting her. The next morning, on his way to work, Ben stops by Casey's room. He's hyped about the big game, but she shows no emotions. He promises he'll be there, but she's not buying it. When he leaves, she gets an email. We know that because it says, you've got new mail. And huge letters on her computer screen. Volume.

[Sabrina Bryan]

New mail.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it's new. This is not old mail.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Not aol.

[Will Friedle]

Nope.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You've got new mail.

[Will Friedle]

Still aol. Still.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

Ride or Die, baby.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Not shut down.

[Will Friedle]

No. Ride or die. Volume 2 of the I don't know what I do. If I woke up and AOL was gone. Oh, my God. It's like, oh, I don't know what I do. Volume 2 of the spellbook has finally arrived at the bookstore. In the guest house, Eve is watching the financial news, where Marathon Toys has announced disappointing sales figures for their Eve doll. A decision of whether or not to cancel the doll will be made in the next two weeks. Eve can't believe this. They can't just get rid of Sunnyvale. Just then, Casey enters with her own news. The Spellbook has arrived. But if they don't return her home by midnight, everything will become permanent. Which, based on their new connection, is something Casey wants. And she assumes Eve does, too. But with the possible Sunnyvale shutdown, this changes everything. Before Eve can explain, Casey runs Off for the game. And so now the game's about to start. We see the Lohan siblings are in the stands. Hi, Lohan siblings. Sadly, Casey does not see her dad in the crowd. He's stuck in the office, hung up, waiting for the deposition to start. But he knows he can't miss the game. He tells the team they can handle this on their own and leaves. On his way out, he runs into his boss, who doesn't understand why he's leaving. But Ben explains he's not missing his daughter's super bowl, even if it loses him the partnership. And he's starting to realize what's important. We cut back to the end of the first quarter at just as Ben is arriving mid play, Casey notices him and gets sacked. But she's still so happy to see to see him. At the same time, Eve has arrived at the toy store. Just as they're removing Eve dolls from their front display. She knows time is of the essence, so she runs to the magical bookstore. Back at the game, there are 12 seconds left and Casey's team is down by four. And that's when Eve arrives. She's come to say goodbye. She tries to tell Ben, but he's too focused on the final play. But Casey notices Eve and waves. Casey calls out the play, steps back to find Wiener. He's open. She lets it fly. And she's tackled. But what? Wiener catches it. Go, Wiener. Go, Wiener, go. But at the one yard line, he's tackled. No touchdown. The Windsor Wildcats lose.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No. No happiness in this movie.

[Will Friedle]

Nope. Eve can't believe it. That's it. The kid that poor. And this poor Wiener kid just can't. He finally catches one, but he's not fast enough.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And it's like he needs to find a new dream. Football's not for him.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, man. Or maybe we just need to do the Wiener movie. Ben walks down to the field to comfort his daughter. He calls it the best pass he's ever seen and gives her a big hug. Win or lose, she was great out there. He apologizes for not being around, but the truth is, since mom has died, things have been very rough for him too. And I thought this was arguably my favorite scene of the whole movie is the two of them after her game on the field together was great. But he says it's his fault and his mom would be so proud of Casey. It's a very nice and very surreal moment. Eve sees everything unfold from afar and brings tears to her eyes. She feels the water and realizes she's finally felt. Felt Pain. She notices a sad kid in the stands too. And then a couple straight up tongue kissing each other. Maybe in sadness. I don't know. She's supposed to see all the emotion. I don't know. But human emotion is complicated. Maybe that's what they're getting at. Wiener and Casey have a nice moment too. But Eve ran off. Wiener's mom passes along a message. Eve says goodbye. She found the book and someone to read it to her. So she's headed back home again. It makes you wonder if the first book was $150. Where she's getting the money for this book book. Or did she steal it too? Never get into that. Casey is shocked. Why is she going back? And now Ben is confused. What's going on? This stranger we took into our house. There's more to her than I thought. Eve takes a cab to the main offices of the toy company. Where she tells a security check in. She's home. The worst security guard in history thinks she's there for a photo shoot, so sends her to a room where the entire Sunnyvale playset has been constructed. She notices how tiny it is, but knows what she has to do. She starts to spell just as Casey and Ben pull up. They rush into the building and the security guard lets them go too. What the hell? Come on, everybody. Back to where this literally has no job if he's just letting everyone go. Tyra Banks the whole time was a toy. And when they find the room, all they see is Eve's backpack. They're too late. But just as they've given up hope, human Eve pops up and reveals the spell was completed. There isn't much time left. Ben spots the serial number on her foot and knows she actually is leaving. He takes this amazingly well to find out that a doll came to life that he's been fighting. He's like, wow, that's amazing. I. I can't believe it. It's like.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That's unexpected, dude. Just like that.

[Will Friedle]

Also, how do they not have the conversation of. Don't you understand, dad? This works. We can bring mom back to life. I don't understand how that never comes up. But anyway. Okay. Okay. Eve says that Sunnyvale needs her, but Casey can't accept it. She's crying, but Eve explains she's learned so much as a human and Sunnyvale is where she belongs. To save Eve forever. Ben thanks her and they all hug. And just like that, Eve shrinks down to a doll size and becomes plastic. Ben picks her up and they decide to put her somewhere special in the house. We cut to the toy store where the Eve doll is not only still around, it's thriving. New dolls have just arrived and families are lined up around the block. Casey is hanging out with her friends again. Yes, the same ones who coldly said she just needed to get over her dead mom. They've all reconnected and are doing some CD shopping. And we learn that Ben became a partner after all and is still hanging out with Drew. Yikes. In the toy store, kids are freaking out over Eve. She's more popular than ever. And we abruptly cut to Tyra, who's now singing Be a Star Again backstage near the large Eve playset. She's singing off key again and dancing around with the lead characters from the movie, from Ben to the office manager. It's a just strange ending with some awful dancing and singing. And that is the end of our absolutely bat crazy movie.

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[Will Friedle]

And again, come for me all you want about the nostalgia I get. It was important to you as a kid. This movie was weird. Let's do real reviews. Sabrina, you got the five star. What do you got?

[Sabrina Bryan]

All right, five star from Missy P94. Me and Hayden used to act like we were life size dolls. We wrote numbers on the bottom of our feet and picked out the Barbies we wanted to look like. Haha. Good times. That's actually very relatable, Missy. I'm not gonna lie. I think that's.

[Will Friedle]

That's great.

[Sabrina Bryan]

A lot of. A lot of young girls did it.

[Will Friedle]

Yep. Absolutely. Absolutely. I have the one star. It's from co Ryan which I assume means there are several Ryans and he's a co Ryan. This movie is terrible. So I suggest instead you go to YouTube and watch the video where Tyra Banks is afraid of dolphins. All right, one star. Thank you. And now of course we're going to come to our special feature and it sounds like Sabrina's going to lose because producer Jensen is back with us this week.

[Sabrina Bryan]

My reign has come come to an end. I'm gonna say it now.

[Will Friedle]

Killing it. Producer Jensen. She's been killing it. Not anymore.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So I know it is time feature.

[Will Friedle]

This week is called Barbie or Manson to honor the obvious influence the iconic Barbie doll. Hot. In this movie we're going to get a girl's name and have to decide if it's one of Barbie's many cool friends or one of Charles Manson's infamous cult members. We basically have a 5050 chance here but if we get it wrong, we're going to look very dumb. Three out of five wins. Oh, I know some of Charles Manson's the names of some of his followers.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So is it you knew I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

I don't know them personally. Thank you. Talking a long time ago.

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[Will Friedle]

Exactly. Tell me, tell me, number one. Sabrina. Linda. Is that a member of Manson's cult or is that a Barbie girl name?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, okay, I saw. Okay, okay, Linda. I'm gonna go with Colt.

[Will Friedle]

Isn't it Linda Kasabian? Is that her name? Linda Kasabian? She is. We are both one.

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[Will Friedle]

Okay, one, One. Number two. Chelsea.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Barbie.

[Will Friedle]

I'm gonna say Barbie as well. Oh, two for two. Yes.

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[Sabrina Bryan]

I gotta.

[Will Friedle]

I gotta get back into this. Telling you. Number three. Patricia.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Gosh, that seems like it could be either. Really Honest.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, these all seem like it could be either.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, they do a good one, though.

[Will Friedle]

What do you got? Barbie or Manson?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm gonna go Manson.

[Will Friedle]

It is Manson. I believe her name is Patricia Krenwinkel. That is it.

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[Sabrina Bryan]

I can't believe you know these last names. I'm kidding.

[Will Friedle]

You nuts. Like, one of them most famous horrible things in Hollywood, their socials.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I know. So seriously, I just.

[Will Friedle]

I've watched so many, like, murder documentaries. I know all these things. By the way, let's do the last two for fun. I have nostalgia for murder documentaries. Number four, Leslie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think Leslie's Manson too. I don't think there's a.

[Will Friedle]

It's Leslie Van Houten, isn't it? Yes. So creepy. Number five is Teresa.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think Teresa actually could be a Barbie.

[Will Friedle]

I think it's Barbie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Probably a latch.

[Will Friedle]

Teresa's Barbie. Wow. Five for five. A rare double five for five, including.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Last names to see me in full form.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, my gosh. I got it. Now I have to figure one out.

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[Sabrina Bryan]

Talk about Manson. Next week's gonna be just a blood well.

[Will Friedle]

We're happy to have you back and to welcome you back that way, Producer Jensen.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Thank. Oh, man.

[Will Friedle]

Can we now do a Sabrina Seas, please?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, God. Okay, here we go. One of the first things. I mean, I'm five ones down. I. One of the first things was I wasn't ready for football in this movie at all.

[Will Friedle]

No, like, I wasn't either. I wasn't. And I liked it, frankly. I like that she was the quarterback.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, she actually. When she threw at the very end, I will say she looked like she could throw a football.

[Will Friedle]

That was clearly not her. Go back and watch again. It is another face in the helmet. It is. It's a girl, but it's Not Lindsay Lohan.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

I paused to make sure. Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

All right, well, that was not good. Sabrina needs to be a little closer. My contacts need to be reevaluated.

[Podcast Host]

Clearly.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Next thing I have is Richie's gross. Like in all caps. He's just gross. We've already gone over that. That's fine. Let's talk about her room.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This. You know, I think I've said this just a few times over the last, like, going on two years now. If you could believe it, this room was bat.

[Will Friedle]

Well that. It matched the film perfectly.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Well. Yeah. I mean, this, the, the. The decor of the room made no sense. You know, we. We will kind of joke about how, okay, now we get to see the things that she's into and the this and the that with their. The showing of the rooms telling fashion or super sportsy girl or super, you know, skater guy for. For our favorite movie ever. This room made no sense. You didn't get an idea at all, except for that maybe she was like a teenager. It had at one point like a kite, a kite hanging on the wall and then a random glow star behind her bed. A white buffet that you would have in your living room with doors and like trinkets inside of it. And the bedroom was in front of the buffet that was on the wall. It was the most. It was so distracting to me. I couldn't stand it. I hated all of the scenes in her bedroom because of it. That person that was in part of like set design, fired. That was bad. That was really bad. Because if that was her personality or that made sense, okay, fine, I'll go with it. But it didn't give you any clue into what besides the three or four pictures they had of her, the family.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That bedroom was like, made no sense. It was.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Drove me crazy. I knew because of our. Before we watched this and our kind of our trailer of our last episode and you had mentioned that the girl group that you knew Nobody's any Angel, Nobody's angel was going to be in this. I had to say, oh, that mall montage music was that Nobody's Angel. But then Nobody's angel song came on and I was like, oh, yeah. No, never.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. No, that's it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It was such a bad song. It was like awful song. It was. Whoever produced the song later on in the show produced that one. It was bad. And then this is starting to get a little bit kind of silly because we picked apart this movie so much. I didn't understand how she can't dress herself. But then she had, like, different wigs and different hairstyles throughout the movie. That just kind of. If that was going to be a situation where she was going to need help, they could have just cut that whole scene, probably. Honestly, we didn't talk about how awkward it was and weird that Drew and Ben were dancing at this, like, company party. Don't get dancing. But they were, like, slow dancing. That was just so weird. And then my last one was. I thought you would have got this one. Oh, no, there's just two. The second to last one when she's like, she's looking up at the stars. It's that scene she's looking up the stars and she's like talking about them and then she goes, oh, Ben, look, the moon. Or the moon, like a second. Oh, Ben, look, the moon.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it's brilliant.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I rewound it like seven times. It was so funny. Like, the moon is over there.

[Will Friedle]

It's wonderful.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And the last one is. I thought you'd come say this, too. Come on, Bruce, kill him for me. That was what the parent he sat down next to at the football game, right?

[Will Friedle]

Come on, Bruce.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Come on, Bruce, kill him for me. Oh, my God. They're like 11 years old. Mom, stop saying that. That's not okay. I'm not gonna kill anyone out here. I'm playing football.

[Will Friedle]

No, it's good. It's all good. Good.

[Sabrina Bryan]

There were some good laughs in this movie.

[Will Friedle]

There were. There were. Sometimes I was laughing with it. Most of the times I was laughing at it. But yes, there were some. Yes. And now it's time to rate our film. One out of ten. Ten best, one worst. Not even to do a joke about it this week.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Don't even have energy.

[Will Friedle]

I got nothing left. I got nothing left.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Nothing in the tank.

[Will Friedle]

So our options this week are one out of ten documentaries about me. Huh? That's the perfect man. One out of ten wieners. I hope you don't pick that one. One out of ten magic pentagrams, dead mom hairbrushes, 2000s malls wieners. Again.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Again.

[Will Friedle]

One out of ten bridge troll, office managers, new emails. One out of ten Lohan siblings, sad tongue kisses. Or I'm gonna also put in 1 out of 10 disguised green M&Ms. Sabrina.

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[Will Friedle]

Yes, okay. Wieners. Oh, that's a good one. Sabrina, what are you picking?

[Sabrina Bryan]

We're. We're going. What is it? Green M M's dress?

[Will Friedle]

No, no, it's. It's going to be disguised green.

[Sabrina Bryan]

M. Disguised green.

[Will Friedle]

All right, well, you Did Hocus Pocus. I think you. You went first last time, didn't you? I think you did. Yeah. So it's my turn. Oh, it's my turn to go first.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Literally.

[Will Friedle]

It was yesterday. Yeah, I know. This was a solid film. I'm giving this a 9. I'm not. I am not. And again, you can all come for me. I get that. I cannot watch this with any nostalgia attached. I once again say with nostalgia. Without nostalgia. Good movies are good movies. It shouldn't matter that you liked him as a kid. You should still be able to look at. You know, one of my favorite movies as a kid was Rad. I will always say rad is the best movie ever. I can still look at Rad and go, it's actually kind of a crap movie. But I loved it. That's a different thing.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

So with no nostalgia attached to. This was a. We keep saying, but it's true. This was a crazy movie. The dad was strange. He had no reaction to the fact that his daughter actually resurrected somebody. The resurrection was just. Nobody's mentioning that. She literally brought a thing back to life, and then she could have brought her mom back. It was one thing after another. The characters were weird. Drew was weird. If not for Lindsay Lohan, this might have been one of the lowest rated movies that I had. Just because this was all over the place. I'm gonna generously, in my opinion, because of Lindsay Lohan's performance alone, give this a 4.5. Disguised green, M&MS. She's great. Tyra Banks was good. Just the story and the script and some of the characters made no sense. So I'm. 4.5, I think, is a good score for this movie. 4.5. Disguise, green M&Ms. Yes. Sabrina, what do you got?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I. I agree with you with so much of it. And the hard part for me, and I know this isn't even a point of view that you came from is this movie. I think if we went the comedy route and they did things along the lines of actually making it a feminist movie. And, you know, again, I know we're not supposed to, but watching the Barbie movie and seeing how it could be done. Right.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I gotta see that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

In that sense, to me, her as abdall really didn't consistently work throughout the rest of the movie. It went in and out. It wasn't consistent. It didn't flow in that sense. And so it's hard not to compare, especially to a movie that was so great done recently. And I know that's true. And again, I know, I know I'm gonna get heat for this as well. But I, again, I just couldn't. I couldn't go with it. And I really, really tried. I really did, but this was not my favorite one. I, I wouldn't say I would even want to try it one more time.

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Because there was a lot of off putting things. The things that I don't like are things that maybe weren't that relevant then but are now that the creepy relationships.

[Will Friedle]

Maybe that's what it is.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It just didn't age well for me. And so that's the thing. And even when you try to go back, you're kind of like with that, with the mix of the holes in the script and the things just being very strange. I'm gonna give it a 5.5.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And you know.

[Will Friedle]

5.5 what?

[Sabrina Bryan]

5.5 disguise cream.

[Will Friedle]

Perfect. That's great.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, man. Yeah. And I don't like giving bad ones. I, I don't either. On the roll for a couple of good ones. Done some great ones just recently. That really perked us up.

[Will Friedle]

Well, I'm hoping, I'm hoping that most of the comments are going to be people going like, oh, I suggested this because it's crazy. I suggested this because I knew you guys were not like, I suggested it because it's the best movie I've ever seen.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I also don't think, think it's necessarily fair. I do feel like in our comments people are saying that's insane, but they're not actually rewatching it themselves. So make sure you rewatch it so you can tell if you actually agree or disagree.

[Will Friedle]

Remember as you're watching them that nostalgia is a wonderful thing. But you can. Two things can be true. You can love the movie that when you saw it as a kid and understand that it's not that good. That's. That's okay. So. Yeah. But anyway, thank you for joining us. Our next movie is frankly the perfect start for December. We're finally cracking to Christmas movies this year and we're kicking it off with the 2001 DCOM TWAS the Night, starring Walter White himself, Bryan Cranston. And I'm seriously hoping this movie is all about meth, just like Breaking Bad. But I'm guessing, I'm guessing the entire, entire title is not Twas the Night. I made Methods.

[Sabrina Bryan]

If it's not a Christmas film, I'm gonna be just so upset.

[Will Friedle]

It is, it is.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay, I'm ready to get in the Christmas spirit.

[Will Friedle]

We're getting there.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We did Halloween to The fullest.

[Will Friedle]

Here we go.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And now it's ready. I'm ready to be thankful and into Christmas.

[Will Friedle]

That's fine. We're gonna deck the halls with Christmas movies. And while we wait for that, we have a very fun interview this week, premiering on our dedicated Magical Rewind feed. It's Felicia Barton, who is one of the incredible singers you hear weekly on the biggest show in 2025America, dancing with the Stars, which we will have a lot of questions about. And she's also written songs for Demi Lovato and Lea Michele. But for Magical Rewind fans, she is the mother of Disney's new it boy, a young man who has been on the channel since he was basically in diapers. Malachi Barton from Villains of Valley Views, Stuck in the Middle, Zombies four, and soon the new Camp Rock. And now we get a totally new and unique perspective. What it's like when you're the mom of a Disney Channel star. And it isn't easy. So let's take a quick listen on what you can expect from the amazing Felicia.

[Sabrina Bryan]

He really did fall into this. It's crazy.

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[Sabrina Bryan]

La and I was coming back and forth between Nashville and LA and writing music for artists and doing the whole thing. I went into the studio session and the guy that owned the studio walked into my session and he was like, hey, is that your kid outside on top of a car dancing to Justin Bieber? Probably.

[Will Friedle]

That was a very surprisingly cool interview and one you don't want to miss. So catch up with all the popular DCOM cast and crew members we've interviewed on Magical Rewind. But just go into the Magical Rewind podcast feed on any and all streaming services. You can get them all, my friend. You can also follow us at Magical Rewind Pod on the Instagram, whatever it is, machine for information and clips. They do little clips there. It's like moving pictures. It's really incredible pictures. Wow. It's like. It's an amazing thing. I couldn't believe it. It's like a computer in the palm of my hand. Wow. Thanks, everybody. Bye.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Bye. Like the song says, it's the most wonderful time of the year and maybe the most wonderfully busy, too. But that's all part of the magic, right? Here's my tip for keeping things wonderful. Keep yourself wonderful. First, enjoy a crisp, cold Coca Cola and instant reset. Merriment restored. So look out for yourself with the Coke and then share the love con tu gente Together, we'll keep the season chill and bright, enjoy a Coca Cola and refresh your holidays.

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[Will Friedle]

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