Matthew Lawrence Meets World Once Again

Summary

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Pod Meets World: "Matthew Lawrence Meets World Once Again"

Podcast: Pod Meets World (iHeartPodcasts)
Episode Date: January 26, 2026
Guests: Matt Lawrence (Jack Hunter)
Hosts: Danielle Fishel (Topanga), Will Friedle (Eric), Ryder Strong (Shawn)

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Episode Overview

This episode welcomes Matt Lawrence back to "Pod Meets World" to reflect on Season 7 of "Boy Meets World" as the hosts embark on their rewatch of the show's final season. The conversation is filled with nostalgia, candid insights about the challenges and triumphs of being child actors, and a heartfelt look at growing up both on and off the set. The group explores Matt’s unique experience joining the cast, his memories of the show’s end, behind-the-scenes stories, and life after "Boy Meets World". They also touch on heavier topics such as body image, aging in the public eye, and what it means to authentically navigate social media and post-show careers.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nostalgia & Season 7 Reflections

[14:33, 16:41]

• The hosts kick off their revisit of "Boy Meets World" Season 7, noting how the final episodes felt both surreal and significant.
• Matt shares that by the time he felt comfortable on the show, it was ending—a bittersweet realization:

  "I was just kind of like, you know, getting my... getting into stride, getting my sea legs, and it was like, done, and I was so bummed..." – Matt Lawrence [17:11]

• The cast jokes about the strange logic of their characters' storylines ("Remember, Chet just died and we're just never going to reference it again") [18:49].
• Matt says the show became a true “benchmark sitcom”:

  "When I look back on, like, sitcoms I've been a part of, I mean, Boy Meets World is by far the standout." – Matt Lawrence [26:40]

2. Joining the Cast & Fitting In

[24:06, 25:15]

• Matt entered as an “outsider” but had more sitcom experience than the original cast, which created a unique dynamic.
• He reflects on how Boy Meets World felt uniquely welcoming:

  “[It] felt more like my age group...like the mystery high school/college experience in a way.” – Matt Lawrence [25:56]

3. Set Memories and Behind-the-Scenes Camaraderie

[21:19, 21:37]

• There was an ongoing friendly rivalry between Will and Matt to make each other laugh on set:

  "You and I were actively trying to crack each other up. And a lot of times did." – Will Friedle [21:37]

• Matt describes the "warm and fuzzy" feeling watching the main cast interact, and a rare bonding moment with William Daniels (Mr. Feeny) in the show's final scenes [23:39].

4. Social Media—Pressure, Vulnerability & Authenticity

[02:33–08:07]

• Will contemplates returning to social media, torn between creative opportunities and mental health concerns.
• Ryder and Danielle weigh in on the anxieties and realities:

  "I think as long as you're doing something that you believe in and you have an authentic presentation of yourself...It can be a really fun community." – Ryder Strong [04:08] "It becomes a job. And in order to do it well, considering we are too old for us to truly know TikTok and Instagram, how to use...to teach yourself really how to be very good at it is nearly impossible." – Danielle Fishel [06:49]

5. Acting, Character Arcs, & Retrospective Self-Critique

[40:31–45:26]

• The group discusses how their perspectives on acting have evolved and what they’d do differently:

  “If I had to fight back, it would have been, let's have some consistency with the character...I went through 37 different iterations of Eric.” – Will Friedle [44:16] "I noticed when I was playing the joke versus living the joke...Don't play it, it would have been funnier, you know?” – Matt Lawrence [42:56]

6. Body Image and Growing Up on Screen

[53:39–57:44]

• Anticipating upcoming episodes dealing with "weight gain" storylines, the hosts reflect on harmful 90s body standards and lasting impacts:

  "Writers and...adults maybe in general, were comparing you to your 11 year old body. Like, think about how messed up that is. But that's what happens with child actors." – Ryder Strong [54:38]

• Matt shares concern over current pressures on young people, especially women, to conform to extreme body standards:

  "It's so focused on like, what can I change about my body and my faith with surgeries and I'm just like, oh my gosh..." – Matt Lawrence [55:27]

7. Fond Memories, Bittersweet Goodbyes & Post-Show Life

[59:40, 62:04]

• The cast recalls the emotional weight of the final tape night:

  "I was definitely emotional...as to like, darn. And I don't know, who knows if that will ever happen again. And it never did. That feeling never happened again." – Matt Lawrence [59:40]

• The group jokes about a “fancy dinner club” they started as the series ended, with Danielle mock-chiding them for not including her [60:26].

8. Matt Lawrence’s Current Projects

[62:04, 67:09]

• Matt discusses the "Brotherly Love" podcast with his brothers, revealing their goal to reach 500 episodes.
• He shares about hosting his new reality show, "Second Chance Love," filmed in Sardinia with his girlfriend Chilli (of TLC), highlighting the region's community spirit and health culture:

  "There's a reason why it's a blue zone, you know, where people really have this extended life expectancy...The community is one and people are good to their neighbors..." – Matt Lawrence [67:31]

9. Aging, Growth, and Staying Grounded

[62:34, 63:43]

• The group discusses challenges unique to child actors and the pride they feel seeing each other continue with fulfilling lives and careers:

  "What I'm really proud of is...the people that you have been able to become, because, as, you know, a lot of our peers, you know, have...fallen into lives that aren't conducive to health and wellness. And so I'm just super proud that you guys have been able to get over these hurdles and still let your abilities and your talents shine." – Matt Lawrence [63:43]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On being part of the show's finale:
  "I thought we were going to be working together for the next 20 years...I thought they were going to spin us off..." – Matt Lawrence [18:11–18:15]

• On chemistry in the cast:
  "Every time I went to work, I knew I was gonna laugh." – Matt Lawrence [21:19]

• On the pressure of body image in the industry:
  "The pressure of comparing you to your younger self is right...There's no way to win that one." – Matt Lawrence [56:04]

• On support within the cast:
  "No woman in the world has three better friends than you three..." – Danielle Fishel, about the support she receives from the guys [30:13]

• On physical peak in Season 7:
  "You are like a specimen of a man on this show. You are, like, chiseled from stone." – Danielle Fishel to Matt Lawrence [46:37]

• On authenticity and aging:
  "You gotta try to embrace the aging and age as gracefully as you can. I don't understand trying to lock yourself [in youth]." – Matt Lawrence [55:27]

• On post-show pride:
  "I'm just super proud that you guys have been able to get over these hurdles and still let your abilities and your talents shine...I'm just super proud that you guys have been able to get over these hurdles and still let your abilities and your talents shine." – Matt Lawrence [63:43]

• On Matt's takeaways from Sardinia:
  "The food is on another level...And you can eat pizza and pasta and you don’t feel bloated...it's not chemicals, it's just natural food." – Matt Lawrence [68:42]

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Major Segments & Timestamps

| Topic | Start | Notable Moments | |-------|-------|-------------------| | Will debates social media return | 02:33 | Honest talk on anxiety, creative value [03:32, 04:27, 06:49] | | Matt joins for Season 7 revisiting | 14:33 | Reflections on finale, cast dynamics [17:11, 18:11] | | Set stories, cast chemistry | 21:19 | Making each other laugh, bloopers [21:37, 22:00] | | The transition to the final season | 23:39 | Riders’ and Matt’s adjustment to new cast dynamic [23:39, 24:06] | | Actor insecurities and watching old episodes | 40:31 | Self-critique, growth as performers [42:56, 44:16] | | Discussion on body image pressures | 53:39 | Commentary on 90s TV and personal impact [54:38, 55:27] | | Final tape night memories, dinner club stories | 59:40 | Emotional goodbyes, off-camera friendships [60:26] | | Matt’s podcast and new reality show | 62:04, 67:09 | Preview and stories from "Second Chance Love" [67:31] |

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Tone & Atmosphere

The conversation is warm, sincere, and peppered with playful teasing—the same camaraderie that defined "Boy Meets World" is alive in this deep-dive rewatch. The cast is open about their insecurities then and now; they balance humorous banter ("MoPanga" as a nickname for mopey Topanga [45:43]) with mature reflections on the long-term effects of being in the spotlight. They’re supportive of each other’s individual journeys and unafraid to discuss past regrets, growth, and hopes for the future.

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Takeaways for Fans & Listeners

• Expect fresh insight into the experience of aging out of child stardom and learning self-advocacy as actors.
• Understand the enduring friendships at the show's core, with Matt’s inclusion as proof that the cast became true family.
• Hear a first-hand account of the joy, challenge, and impact of bringing your real self to both a beloved old show and today's media landscape.
• Enjoy behind-the-scenes details and honest, often hilarious, commentary on memorable and awkward moments from both on and off camera.
• Discover what Matt Lawrence is doing now, including his podcast and a new reality show filmed in a European "blue zone."
• Most importantly, the episode captures a sense of gratitude and pride for what the cast, both individually and together, has managed to build—then and now.

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Transcript

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Will Friedle]

So I've been getting a lot of friendly pressure from a number of different avenues to rejoin social media. And I'm coming to both of you because both of you know me Better than anybody but my wife, probably. And I'll wake up one day and be like, I want to do it. I think it'll be fun. You know, I can put out some comedy stuff, which is what I want to do, and it'd be a good outlet to have that. And then I'll wake up the next day and be like, not a chance in hell am I ever getting back on social media. And I honestly don't know which way I'm leaning. And I'm curious what you're.

[Danielle Fishel]

What are some friendly pressuring you?

[Will Friedle]

I have some friendly pressure from your husband.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

I have some friendly pressure from my nephews who are not only thinking about it from. They're like, hey, you know, they're younger, they're in their 20s. They're like, hey, it's. This is what you do as, as somebody in the. In the celebrity world, quote, unquote. Although I don't consider myself a celebrity. This is what people do. Social media, we. If we want jobs or anything nowadays.

People will say, what's your following?

There's a financial aspect to being on social media. I mean, there's a number of reasons to do it. And then I think of, like, my. My mental health and anxiety and things like that. And I know that it's. It'll also just be a nasty cesspool. And I'm like, yeah, I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

If I want to do it, but. But that the part of the mental health thing, because I know that you've always said that, like, getting off social media was like, really good for your mental health. But it seems to me like, for me, my. The dangerous, like the bad part of my mental health is just scrolling and reading it and being a.

[Will Friedle]

Which I do anyway.

[Ryder Strong]

Which you do anyway. So that's the part. Because that's what I thought you meant when you would say, like, oh, I.

[Will Friedle]

Know it's social media things.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, see that. Yeah. I mean that I think you just would actually be good for you to face. Because I think as long as you're doing something that you believe in and you have an authentic presentation of yourself, like, you know, in other words, if you end up going back on social media in order to try and be something that you're kind of not. Do you know what I mean?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, no, no.

[Ryder Strong]

But if you go on and we're like, here's a series of funny videos I want to make or talking head things I want to talk about or my, you know, nerd dumb stuff that I'm obsessed with it can be a really fun community, you know, like, and I. But you still feel pressure. Like, I never feel like I do enough. Like, when I found Substack and I was like, oh, I could just start writing essays and publishing poems and stuff. Like, I loved it for the three months that I was doing it. But now I'm like, every time I think about, I'm like, oh, I haven't written anything, I haven't published anything.

[Will Friedle]

It's like a job.

[Ryder Strong]

It becomes a job because it's a, you know, so you want to make sure that it's something you want to wake up and have time and like, energy to put into it and enjoy. And if making videos is fun for you and like making.

[Matt Lawrence]

You should just.

[Will Friedle]

Well, I'd love to do like the ADD stuff again that we started, like the minute long comedy skits. To me, that stuff would be super fun.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. And I think if you could find a way to incorporate that into your schedule, like, if I was involved, I would be like, let's do once a month we come over to your house and shoot like five skits in a row.

[Matt Lawrence]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

And then you release them. Yeah, let's do it. Dude.

[Will Friedle]

I totally hope that would be fun. Danielle, you're big in the social media world and you know me. Would you, would you be a yay or a nay for me joining social media again?

[Danielle Fishel]

I would probably be a nay, which originally, you know, I told you like the finsta, and you do have a finsta, which is how you're able to scroll everything. And I think, like, you love sending funny memes and videos and I love sending them to you. And I think, like, the maximum amount of joy you're gonna get out of it is because I do think at first the idea of having I'm gonna record these skits, I'm gonna have this stuff that I'm gonna do. Sounds more fun than it is than when you actually make the commitment to, like, once a week I'm gonna put out a thing. And especially if you want it to be topical at all, which is how it's gonna in the algorithm, like something being on. On some sort of trend. You can't, like, you can't do a bunch of evergreen ones and bank them. You could, but you're probably going to have to have like a consistent shooting schedule, which is going to mean people coming over to your house. You're going to want to like, make sure you look good because you definitely don't want to pump videos out into the world where you're like unhappy with.

[Will Friedle]

Sure.

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, the way your hair looks or what you're wearing. So now you're going to be, like, focused on, do I have. What did I wear last time? There is. It becomes, you know, a job. It becomes a job.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

And although it can be fun, it is a job. And in order to do it well, considering we are too old for us to truly know TikTok and Instagram, how to use, like, to teach yourself really how to be very good at it is nearly impossible.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

So now you're going to want to hire a young. A young cool who does know what they're doing. They know how much those jobs can be worth. So they're not cheap. Now you have, like a kind of a massive expense that you're putting out. And in order to actually make really good money using your social media, you have to have a pretty significant following, which will probably take a significant amount of time to get to.

[Ryder Strong]

So I see. I would encourage you to only do it in the vein of, like, what is your authentic. Like, if you start chasing algorithms, if you start adjusting what you're doing to be more topical, to get more clicks, I just feel like that would. It would work maybe, like, you would get more followers and have more engagement, but I just don't know if that would make you feel good. Like, that would, you know, that is its own sort of strategy and its own thing. But just knowing you, I would recommend, like, man, just do. Do skits that you think are funny whenever you can. But yes, it'll be work. But hopefully that's work you want to be doing.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Matt Lawrence]

I mean, that's how I looked at it, too.

[Will Friedle]

It's like, I get to start shooting this stuff again.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. But I would worry about, you know, Cause if you're still. If you still have, like, feelings of, like, oh, people aren't gonna like me.

[Will Friedle]

Or I'm an actor. Always have those feelings.

[Ryder Strong]

I know, but, like, I don't know. Like, I've gotten over that as I've gotten older. Like, I feel like I used to care a lot. You know, I'm better.

[Will Friedle]

I'm definitely better, but it's still a struggle for me.

[Ryder Strong]

Has really helped me, you know, come to terms of the fact that, like, there's a huge segment of our listeners, like, you know, and I've read the reviews on Apple podcasts. They will just always hate me. And at first that made me feel really bad. And then I was like, actually, I think they. They're accurately seeing me and hearing me from who I am. They just don't like me. I can't control that. You know? Like, it would be so. I would be so inauthentic to try and adjust, to be likable to everybody. I'm like, no, the whole point of this podcast is that I am.

[Will Friedle]

To be yourself.

[Ryder Strong]

Free to be myself.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm having a great conversation with you guys. And, like, as long as that's respectful, like, you can hate me, I guess, all you want. But, like, okay, you know. Yeah, I'm comfortable with the idea that I'm not going to be loved by everybody, which I still feel like, will you still wanna be loved by everybody?

[Will Friedle]

I don't like when people don't like me. I don't get it. I don't like that. Yeah, it's like, it's one of those things where I just wanna knock on people's doors and be like, why did you write something negative?

Let's talk about it.

I'm that guy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Totally.

[Will Friedle]

And so that's why I don't.

[Danielle Fishel]

One person at a time.

[Ryder Strong]

Right?

[Will Friedle]

And so I don't. Yeah. Yeah. And again, I will. I'll wake up one morning and be like, yes, I wanna do this. I wanna put out skits. It's gonna be so funny. And the next day I'll be. Wake up and be like, no, I'm not doing this. There's no way. So, yeah, I was curious.

Okay, well, thank you.

This helped me.

Not at all.

[Ryder Strong]

I think.

[Matt Lawrence]

I think.

[Ryder Strong]

I think you should do it because I think you have time to do the things, you know, if you do kids. If you had kids in, like, a hugely busy schedule, I'd be like, what are you talking about? But actually, like, for you, this work, like, if you were literally doing one day a month where you would shoot ADD style sketches that made you feel good. Yes, dude.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, you should be doing that.

[Ryder Strong]

You should have that creative outlet. That would be so great. It would be work, but it'd be great work.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

I'd help. Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know people also that, you know, if you are looking for someone to help you with shooting it or coming up with concepts or pitching you ideas, even if you say, you know, no, I don't want to do any of those. Here's some things I do want to do. Or if you want to send them other people's social medias that you enjoy and be like, I like this voice. This is ties. Like, reminds me of my voice. I would like to start doing stuff like this. Like, I. I can. I. I know peeps okay, so my.

[Will Friedle]

Favorite peeps are marshmallow.

[Danielle Fishel]

Always will be, Always will be Jensen's too. Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fischl.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm Ryder Strong.

[Will Friedle]

And I'm Will Friedell, ready to announce it, which I think somebody already has. I don't think I'd even get my initial wilfredel.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Will Friedle]

Friedle from Pod Meets World.

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[Danielle Fishel]

If we're going to revisit Season seven, we're not doing it alone. We're just not that brave. So our goal for the next few months is to not only keep up our long standing requirements for interview episodes, but also bring others down with us. I mean, invite back some good pals and favorite contributors to rewatch and give us their opinions on the last episodes of the show.

[Will Friedle]

I'm fine with that as long as it's not Matt Lawrence before it's all over.

[Danielle Fishel]

What do they remember from the beginning of the end? What did they take away from those final few weeks? And do they have any ideas for how we can extend the podcast and fulfill our now hefty contractual obligation with iHeart. So this week we are kicking it off with someone as synonymous with final two seasons of the show. As a stuffed lobster, he played Jack Hunter.

[Will Friedle]

Oh God, it is Lawrence. Jesus, I gotta read who's coming on before I get on these things.

[Danielle Fishel]

Joining the cast without an audition or a warning to the cast after his own show, Brotherly Love, a comedy alongside his brothers Andy and Joey, was canceled. He would quickly become a fan favorite and an integral part of our crew. It was almost like he had been there from the start, reptiles and all. And now next year, he's hosting a brand new reality show on the Lifetime Network alongside his legendary girlfriend and R and B icon Chilli called Second Chance Love. And I can't wait to hear all about it this week to kick off season seven. Welcome back to Pod Meets World. Our buddy Matt Lawrence.

[Ryder Strong]

There he is.

[Will Friedle]

Hey.

[Matt Lawrence]

Hey, everybody.

[Danielle Fishel]

How you doing?

[Matt Lawrence]

I'm doing good. It's good to see you decorated for Christmas.

[Danielle Fishel]

I was going to say. We're talking to you during the Christmas season. You've got it in spades. A fire going.

[Will Friedle]

You misspelled love.

[Matt Lawrence]

What?

[Will Friedle]

You misspelled love behind you.

[Matt Lawrence]

Is it really where?

[Bowen Yang]

I'm kidding.

[Will Friedle]

It looks like it says Lev.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thank you so much for coming back on the podcast. We, of course, have just started season seven, the final hurrah for Boy Meets World.

[Will Friedle]

So gracious.

[Danielle Fishel]

It was your second season on the show. Do you remember anything? Third. Your third season on the show. You're like, wait, there's not another.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you remember anything about going into these last few episodes in 1999?

[Matt Lawrence]

You know, I do, I do. I. I think I was just kind of like, you know, getting my. Getting into stride, getting my sea leg and it was, like, done, and I was so bummed, you know? Yeah, it was like we were finally really. I was just finally really smoothly, you know, on the show. And I. Yeah, I was. I was bummed that it was coming to an end. I just didn't believe it, honestly. Yeah, I didn't think that that was going to be. That was going to be it. So. Yeah, that's what I remember the most.

[Will Friedle]

You know, we also had just come off. We also just finished H e Double hockey sticks.

[Matt Lawrence]

That's right.

[Will Friedle]

So we had just done a movie together and Matt was there, although I don't think I'm. I'm sure I didn't talk to you about my anxiety when it had hit me, like, during the movie, so that, like, you were there for all that stuff and you were there when I met Keyla, and you were there, like, you were there for all of that. And then we started season seven. So, yeah, you and I, by that point had worked together. Nonsense.

[Matt Lawrence]

Stop.

[Will Friedle]

For like, three years. Yeah, Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

I didn't think it was ever going to end, honestly.

[Will Friedle]

No, Yeah, I know.

[Matt Lawrence]

I really didn't. I thought we were going to be working together for the next 20 years.

[Will Friedle]

I thought they were going to spin us off.

We.

We both thought we were going to spin off and everything else. Yeah. So it was strange.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, yeah. No, it definitely already, like, Jack finally feels like just a part of the show.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Because like, even. Even in season six, there was like. Oh, right, right. He's Sean's brother. Chet died. You know, it was like, which part of the show is he in? And I feel like season seven, like, do we even probably. We probably don't even talk to each other. Like, I don't think Sean and John probably let that go. And they were like, he's just Eric's other guy in the other. In the apartment. Just have him go. Just have him do their stuff and it works. Yeah, that's right.

[Will Friedle]

Your brothers.

[Ryder Strong]

I forgot.

[Will Friedle]

I don't see.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And yet Chet just died last season. I mean, but we're never going to reference it again. I bet.

[Danielle Fishel]

Did you guys ever hang out together? Offset, like where. No. Will and Will and Matt.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, we did in Canada, but.

[Matt Lawrence]

Right, in Canada.

[Will Friedle]

Not really. Again, I didn't hang out with Will.

[Ryder Strong]

Didn't do anything.

[Will Friedle]

I didn't do anything. I'm very. Was very much a homebody. And like, I just. Especially at that point now, at this point, I was, you know, barely functioning. But even before that, no, I would. I would come home and watch TV and go to bed. Like, that was.

[Danielle Fishel]

Matt, were you aware of Will's. The start of Will's anxiety during H E double hockey sticks and then into the season seven?

[Matt Lawrence]

You know, I was aware, but I didn't know the extent.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

I didn't realize quite was going. I knew I was just like, oh, you know, it's crazy, Will. I didn't really. I didn't, you know, I didn't really think that much into it. I had also never really. Outside of just being kind of an introvert, I never really experienced it. But I've. I have more compassion for it now because I've had now periods in my life where I've experienced that sort of anxiety and gone through it. So now I have a lot more compassion. Sorry I didn't have more than back then.

[Will Friedle]

No, nobody. No, I didn't. Nobody knew about it. You know, one of the things I remember. So it was like two days after the first attack, two or three days after I had my first attack, I was like, just gonna try to muscle through it and be normal. And you and me, Gabrielle Union and the blonde girl who played my. Your girlfriend in the movie, whose name escapes me, were at a bar and we were trying to. I was like, trying to just like, I'm. I'm Normal and, like, trying to drink a beer. And I remember nothing had any flavor. Nothing had any. It was really a strange moment of, like, no, I can muscle through. And I just have this image of the four of us sitting at this bar and me just then going like, I gotta go home. And that was it. It was so strange that that image is in my head.

[Matt Lawrence]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

But it was just all of us kind of hanging out there. Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

I don't even remember.

[Will Friedle]

Remember that.

Yeah. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's like, not me.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

[Danielle Fishel]

We're only two episodes into season seven, and we have already seen Will turn the comedy up and be his hilarious self. Did he always make it hard not to break? Was. Did you ever feel like it was easy to act opposite Will without feeling like you just had to hold it together all the time?

[Matt Lawrence]

I mean, no. No, it wasn't easy not to break, but that was the beauty of it. I. I thought it was. There was always. Every time I went to work, I knew I was gonna laugh. So, you know. Thank you, Will. It was always such a wonderful experience. No, it's true. It was always a.

[Will Friedle]

Both of us, though, because you did. You and I were just. Especially by season seven, because we've seen some of the bloopers and all that stuff. You and I were actively trying to crack each other up. And a lot of times did. And a lot of times did. Yeah. You know, the episode we just. It's one of my favorite deliveries of yours of all time. One of the episodes we just saw was the. The wrestling match with Vader in the. In the apartment.

[Matt Lawrence]

And it's. It's.

[Will Friedle]

Danielle first crushes the can on her head, and then I do it and knock myself out. And you just go, it's supposed to be an empty can, Eric. And your delivery is just so perfect. Yeah, so it was.

Yeah, we were.

We were both, I think, actively trying to make each other laugh at that point.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, it was. It was a blast. I mean, it was one of the most enjoyable times I've ever had.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, me too.

Sure.

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

It's awesome.

[Danielle Fishel]

Are there any season 7 episodes or scenes that. That really stick out for you in your memory?

[Matt Lawrence]

Gosh.

[Bowen Yang]

Man.

[Matt Lawrence]

I mean, there's. There's definitely a bunch. It's just. They're all kind of, like, grouped into this. Into, like, the season itself. It's weird. It's like there was. There was definitely some. Some incredible moments. I. You know, I always loved. I took the perspective of, you know, kind of watching you guys because you guys were such a Tight knit family. And I always got such a kick and it just made me feel so warm and fuzzy inside watching you guys interact and seeing, you know, like I would kind of stand back and it's funny because I had this one moment where I wasn't. I didn't get, you know, to work with Mr. Daniels very often. Yeah, like not at all. Yeah, like pretty much like anytime I was in a scene with him, I actually got nervous because it was so few and far between. And I remember the one time we actually got close was. Was right up at the end when you guys were kind of having an emotional moment and I'm just standing there kind of taking my, my position again where I'm just kind of looking at you guys and going, oh man, what a, what a special thing. And I turn into my. Right there, there he was standing and he was doing the same thing. And we both like caught each other. And that was like the one time we bonded how amazing your guys relationship really was. You know, that was like. That was the moment that we, we bonded. That was like the one and only. So that was one and only moment.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, that's cute. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

You know what's funny for me to realize, like, looking back is how much more experience you had coming onto our show than any of us. You know, like you were. You'd already done how many sitcoms at this point, like actually been a regular on like three. Right.

[Will Friedle]

Or four at least.

[Ryder Strong]

You've been in so many movies, you've been around the industry so much more. I mean, with the exception of Ben. I feel like Ben grew up, you know, he started at like seven, but even that was. He was seven, you were two or whatever. So like.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, he was already, he was already old.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Because when we interviewed you last time, I think we talked, you felt a little uncomfortable. You felt like you were an outsider coming into an established thing, which was the case. But you also were coming in with way more experience.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm so curious how like now even, and you've gone on to do a bunch more too, but like how. What was the Boy Meets World set versus other sitcom sets? Like, you know, what was the vibe? I mean, we, we've heard the Michael Jacobs, you know, giving you notes story, which we know is like not great, but like in terms of. I don't know, I'm just curious like how our set. Because I don't really, I didn't especially then, didn't have anything else to compare it to.

[Matt Lawrence]

Well, I mean, look, you, you guys had a great Set. I mean, it was. It was a. It was an incredible environment. It was definitely, you know, each has its own unique thing. And I think that's. That's the. The tone that's set by, you know, the. The people in charge and also the cast. And you guys had such a great tone. Definitely by far one of the best you guys set. It was just so wonderful to be a part of it and. Yeah. So difference. I'd say it felt more. I don't know, it felt more like my age group, if that makes any sense. Yeah, like, it felt like. It felt like more of like the mystery high school slash college experience in a way.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Matt Lawrence]

That's what the difference was, is that if it almost felt more like I. In the end, like I belonged because of all you guys and because we're all very similar ages and then, you know, getting along. So. Yeah, it felt it. Yeah, it was definitely one of the, you know, the benchmark sitcoms by far that I've ever been a part of.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, I think we've heard that from other people too, that on other shows that had had young people on them or kids, the. The parents were the main characters or that, you know, whereas, like, an. Our show completely inverted, like. Yeah, we were the show.

[Matt Lawrence]

Exactly.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

That's exactly what the feeling was. It was. And it was. It was super cool. I mean, when I look back on, like, sitcoms I've been a part of, I mean, Boy Meets World is by far the standout, you know.

[Ryder Strong]

Wow.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's nice.

[Will Friedle]

That's cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

Take that, Andy and Joey.

[Matt Lawrence]

Take that.

[Danielle Fishel]

That was a different.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, it was so different. That was like family. So there was a lot more stuff wound up in that. You know, there was an. It was an incredible experience working, but it was like the family business, so there was all the family stuff that came into it. I was also going through a really awkward phase. It was like that 13 to 16 year old.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

Where honestly, I. I didn't really even want to be on camera at times because I just felt uncomfortable. And so that was just a whole different experience. Lovely and wonderful, but this was more like, oh, this is. This is.

[Will Friedle]

This is my thing.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

I get to kind of be on my own two feet.

[Ryder Strong]

And.

[Matt Lawrence]

And then how did.

[Ryder Strong]

So Brotherly Love lasted how long? Two seasons or three? Three. Okay. And how did. How did that come together? Because you guys were like. I mean, I remember hearing about, like, your family as, like, this, you know, sort of industry unto itself. So did you guys put that show together or Did ABC come up with the show and around you guys, what was. What was the story behind its development?

[Matt Lawrence]

Well, okay, so Joe was coming off of Blossom, so they were like, let's. We want to do another show with you. And they. They didn't know which way to go, whether it was going to be like a more adult, skewed show or more family oriented show. And I know my. My brother, you know, he always sees, like, Mr. Family and Mr. You know, talk about the holidays is like, Mr. Christmas. He was like, let's do the family. Let's get, you know, the whole family of brothers. And. And then. Yeah, and then we developed it. A lot of those stories, especially the pilot episode, were all of our kind of home stories. Like, those were, you know, Andy's. All of Andy's character stuff was. Was what he was doing at home at the time. And I was kind of the angsty teenager, which we just wrote right in all the stuff about, like, how I was very uncomfortable with the way I would dress all the time, and I didn't really want to go out in public a lot. Like, that was all very. That was all very, you know, consistent to what was happening at home. So, yeah, most of that was like, you know, we'd go into the writers room, we'd tell the family stories, and then they were kind of woven, you know, by the writers, but into a, you know, a sitcom format. But, yeah, they were all authentic family stories. They really were.

[Will Friedle]

That's cool.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, Boy Meets World also took a lot of things from all of our personal lives. I mean, it's funny because on the one hand, you think, like, well, that's easy. You're just taking things from. But it's also the things that make the characters feel so real and that make them feel so authentic and well developed is that they were actual character traits we all had. I want to point out, because, you know, Ryder and Will called themselves the Dan Yets and did a show while I was on Dancing with the Stars called Pod meets Twirled. No. No woman in the World. I'm gonna just go on record and say, no woman in the world has three better friends than you Three, because you two were Die Hard on Pod meets Twirled and Just My Ride or Dies. And Matt never missed a single single week of texting me the night of the show. And, like, the next morning when he would be watching, never once. I was like, how. How did I get so lucky? I have no. Truly, I. I would say it to everyone. Everyone would be like, oh, is, you know, it's Will and Ryder. It's so sweet to hear them on Pod Meets World. I'm like, oh, and you don't even know the half of it. I've also got Matt Lawrence over here, who never misses an episode, who's texting me. Oh, I just. It was truly. It was unbelievable. So the three of you, he could.

[Will Friedle]

Learn the steps, which I doubt he could, but he could definitely be a Dan yet if he could stay up.

[Ryder Strong]

With me and wear.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. Because you, of the three of you, you two are the talented dancers.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly. So if he could learn the steps, he could probably be a Dan yet as well.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

Okay. First off, I have to say yes. Danielle, so proud of you.

[Ryder Strong]

You're such.

[Matt Lawrence]

I know. Look, I, I, I've been touched my foot in some of these competitions.

[Danielle Fishel]

You were in Masked Singer.

[Ryder Strong]

Incredible.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

So good on Masked Singer.

[Danielle Fishel]

So good.

[Will Friedle]

Thank you.

[Ryder Strong]

Good. But it was also. You never got to see you. That was just a weird thing. It was like, to watch it, and I kept. Indy wanted to watch it, and so I was like, yeah, Matt's gonna be on it. And then I was like, but we can't tell anybody, and we don't ever get to see him. We just have. It's such a, that was a weird dynamic to, like.

[Matt Lawrence]

Wow. But either way, my gosh, is it stressful?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

The amount of energy and time and there's, there's no way you try. And I, I tried myself. Okay. I can't get caught up in this, you know, and it's impossible not to. They make impossible not to get caught up in everything.

[Ryder Strong]

You want to win so bad, right? You want it, you want to do good.

[Matt Lawrence]

You're like, literally, it consumes your entire life.

[Will Friedle]

Well, I remember seeing you at a convention at one point in the, it was like in the middle, I'm like, how you doing? You're like, it's killing me.

[Matt Lawrence]

My whole body was shutting down from the nerves. Like, it was so intense. So if it was, I knew what, you know, I didn't know exactly, but I kind of figured what you were probably going through. And obviously I care about you, Danielle. You're part of my family. No matter what, you don't see each other. So that was just a natural reaction of going like, oh, my gosh. I, I, I've sort of been through a similar. It is so darn crazy that I just wanted you to know if in any way, you know, the, the support was. That was there, you know, because it's a, It's a it's a crazy experience and you did so incredibly and got the silver lining too for me was you two gentlemen talking about the show and going and Ryder, I know, I know how like it just was so out of fish out of water and it was so great to see you and relate to you in that way. And then will. Oh my gosh, guys, that freaking hilarious. See you guys like sort of get also wrapped up into it.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh my God, totally hilarious.

[Matt Lawrence]

It was the best.

[Danielle Fishel]

I actually loved was it was really great. It was really great.

[Matt Lawrence]

It was super cool.

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[Danielle Fishel]

We asked you to watch season seven, Episode one, Show Me the Love. What were your thoughts on this first episode of season seven?

[Matt Lawrence]

It's interesting. I felt like, especially you, Danielle, everybody was, was very grounded. It was, it was, you know, I, I was shocked.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

At how like it was like this really grounded, you know, about love and.

[Will Friedle]

Breakups and Eric was very grounded in season seven.

[Matt Lawrence]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Eric is a very grounded character.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, for anybody who doesn't remember, we are about to get plays with squirrels wearing Amish outfits, the prank war, you sneezing, the lottery numbers. That's what we have to look forward to.

[Ryder Strong]

For Eric. There's some Italian character he does at one point.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, that's right.

I'm Italian at some point too.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah. But it was a serious subject matter and I thought everybody did very, very well with it. I thought it was. I thought it was well written, I thought it was well performed and. Yeah. And then obviously. And then there's you Will, do you remember?

[Will Friedle]

Was there any Discussion at all about. Because they never mentioned why Jack and Rachel break up. They're just like, yeah, we broke up.

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do we remember?

[Ryder Strong]

Do you ever remember any of that?

[Will Friedle]

Do you remember, like, hey, we're not gonna keep you guys together Any. Or what any of it had to do with anything.

[Matt Lawrence]

I have no idea what happened there. No idea, no clue. In fact, it was so strange. We were just sitting at the table and, like, yeah, we broke up, and there's, like, nothing.

[Ryder Strong]

That was it. Well, dude, we. We probably haven't talked about this because it was last season when you guys hooked up. It was one of those things that when I saw it coming, I was, like, rolling my eyes. But then I was actually kind of rooting for you guys. Probably the best kiss on Boy Meets World history now that we've had to watch a lot of kissing and, like. But you guys actually had, like, real chemistry. And it was like, oh, these characters, this is cool. They're like, they don't want it, but they do. And then they fall in love, and then to have it just get, like, completely tossed one line. But they had real chemistry. Like, it was actually fine. It was a good dynamic, and they just completely forgot.

[Will Friedle]

Actually, Ryder, that's a good point, because, Matt, you haven't been on, I don't think, since we did all that stuff. And one of the things we were talking about over and over again was especially during the whole Chet stuff and then Jack and Rachel getting together. You were so good, so good. You were so good in those storylines because you were the guy trying to hold it together. And then I don't know if you remember, but you have that breakdown on the couch when you guys finally do kiss, where it kind of looks like she's taking advantage of you at your most vulnerable point. But the acting, dude, it was so really great. I mean, a lot of us spent. The three of us spent the episode going like, man, Matt's good.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah, man, Matt's good.

[Will Friedle]

So you were great last season. I just wanted. Cause I. We've seen you in person a bunch, but we haven't had you on the show in so long that we just. Yeah. I wanted to tell you that. That we were just really, really impressed with your performance.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. And they weren't really writing enough to you. They never knew what to do with your character, you know, And I think it goes back to that. First, the idea of, like, oh, let's introduce Sean's brother. And it's like, but we don't need that, you know? And so Then they were like, obviously had more chemistry with Will, so then they had to keep. It was like they kind of went both directions and it's like. So they weren't really writing to you. And what was so great about last season is that you got to have a series of moments where. And they almost acknowledge it. They're like, oh, right, this guy lost his dad too. Let's. You know. And yeah, it was. It was nice. It was.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it was good to see. Thanks, guys.

[Matt Lawrence]

I appreciate it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, we. We raved about you. You can go back and listen to all those episodes. You have a whole season six. We'll send you a bullet point.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

When you've got a Levy, are you.

[Danielle Fishel]

Matt, when you watch the episodes, are you comfortable watching yourself or do you pick every little thing apart? We have all, I think, grown way more comfortable watching ourselves. Although maybe not for Will this season.

[Will Friedle]

This season.

[Danielle Fishel]

This season's the most. Most uncomfortable for him because of the anxiety stuff, but I think Ryder and I have. I've stopped feeling weird about it for the most part. Ryder, do you still feel weird about it?

[Ryder Strong]

I still feel weird about it, but in different ways. Like, I'm no longer, like, I can't watch myself because I'm insecure. It's more like, this is a weird experience. Like, it's still a weird experience. I remember that moment. I remember the way it felt to say those lines and yet to see yourself objectively and be like. Like, you know, it's. I can never feel, like, quite settled. I guess I'm always unsettled, for sure.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm always a little unsettled, too. But I. I have stopped being insecure at least, and, like, really super nitpicky. How do you feel watching the show back?

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, I think that's a good way of. Of putting it. You know, I. That's a great way of putting it. The. The insecurities are not as. As apparent, but, yeah, I still want to be like, you know, you still want to go back and like, wow, if I only knew then what I know now.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, God, yeah, yeah, yeah. So true.

[Ryder Strong]

But I.

[Matt Lawrence]

But I try to take myself out of it and just enjoy it because it's so much time has passed that it's, you know, it's. I just try to. I just try to enjoy it the best that I can. But, yeah, it's tough. There's a lot that I would pick apart and want to do differently and, you know, but, yeah, it is what.

[Ryder Strong]

It is, and that's actually a really interesting Question. I don't know if you have a specific answer, but, like, what would you do differently besides acting? Like, besides moment to moment, like, oh, I could have hit that moment, Like, Because I look back and I'm wondering what. How would I be on the set of Boy Meets World knowing what I know now? Yeah, like, I, I, you know, like, I now I would be like, please, can we stop with the drama? And like, I think I would have advocated more for myself as. As like a creative and been like, I can get, I guess, like, at the time. Of course, you're just the writers of Gods. They do everything, you know, and, like, I would much more. I would be in the, like, oh, give me this. Give me more of this to do. I would have, you know, at the time, I sort of checked out and just did what they told me to. But do you guys, all three of you, do you know what you would do differently or how you'd approach it?

[Matt Lawrence]

I mean, I guess I, you know, it's tough to say, right. Because hindsight's 20 20. How do you go back and say I would do? But. And looking back on it now.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

I mean, there's. There's stuff I would have done. I think there are times I noticed when I was playing the joke versus living the joke, and now looking back, I would have been like, oh, man, all I needed to do is just kind of lean into the living it more. Don't play it. It would have been funnier, you know?

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Matt Lawrence]

That's kind of my biggest critique is that, you know, But I mean, also, that was the era that we were in. So again, it's to say, like, you did need to go for the joke. Like, you know, so it's tough to say, but. But yeah, now watching it also, too. Can they please put it in the normal format? Why is it still high enough?

[Will Friedle]

It's still. It's four, three and super grainy. What?

[Matt Lawrence]

Why is that? Can't we get a little digital upgrade?

[Ryder Strong]

I was on the Step By Step podcast with Stacy, and they were filming on film on Step by Step.

[Danielle Fishel]

My gosh.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, they were still doing film. I was like, that's crazy. Why?

[Will Friedle]

I think so was so Family Matters. I think the only ones that didn't were us.

[Matt Lawrence]

I think we were the only ones.

[Ryder Strong]

That were so bad compared to other shows. It's such a bummer. It is.

[Matt Lawrence]

I was like, what? They got to be able to readjust this frame and give it a little something.

[Will Friedle]

Little?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, it looks horrible.

[Will Friedle]

I don't, you know, the Trite answer is I wouldn't change anything because it's made me who I am today. Stupid answer, but, yeah, that's dumb.

[Matt Lawrence]

Don't say that.

[Will Friedle]

I know, I know. But no, I think I would have. If I had to fight back, it would have been, let's have some consistency with the character.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

From where I started to where I ended is not. I went through 37 different iterations of Eric, so I probably would have had some. And again, that is, as an actor, as much my fault, if not more my fault than it is the writer's fault, because I was pushing everything. I was ad libbing, I was making it more Jim Carrey. So, I mean, that's on me. So I think I would probably. You know what's funny is I. Most people would probably expect me to say I would tone down my performance later. No, I would have upped my performance earlier. That's what I would have done. Early Eric would have shown more signs of later Eric as opposed to later Eric showing more signs of early Eric. That makes sense. So that's where I would have. That's what I would have changed for me.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's funny, Ryder, hearing you talk about, like, pushing back on some of the drama, because so far in season seven, only two episodes in, we've been lighter. But you are way lighter. You're now comedic relief. And Topanga is the drama, right?

[Ryder Strong]

Topanga and Cory are the drama.

[Danielle Fishel]

Topanga and Cory, Yeah. I mean, and not even Cory.

[Will Friedle]

Cory's just like, he's Cory.

[Danielle Fishel]

He's just Cory. And Topanga's the one who's every. Every week has the same problem. We're not loving Topanga this season, Matt. We're not a fan.

[Will Friedle]

Mopey Topanga.

[Danielle Fishel]

Mo Pega.

[Will Friedle]

All of love is dead.

[Ryder Strong]

Mopanga. Mopanga. We've entered the season of mopanga.

[Matt Lawrence]

Mopanga.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, that's the best.

[Danielle Fishel]

Mopanga.

[Bowen Yang]

Mer.

[Will Friedle]

Moanga merch.

[Ryder Strong]

What does the merch look like?

[Matt Lawrence]

It's just her.

[Will Friedle]

It's.

It's. It's like deputy dog, but it's Topanga.

[Ryder Strong]

Just Mopanga.

[Matt Lawrence]

It's hilarious.

[Will Friedle]

I want a mopanga shirt.

[Danielle Fishel]

I want a Mopanga shirt, too.

[Ryder Strong]

That's really good.

[Matt Lawrence]

Oh, boy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Matt, one. One thing we all definitely agreed on is that we are in peak Matt Lawrence in his physical form.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, you suck. You suck. I don't like standing next to you.

[Danielle Fishel]

You are like a specimen of a man on this show. You are, like, chiseled from stone.

[Will Friedle]

I look like the way before Picture.

[Danielle Fishel]

What was your, what was your. Were you, like, really into working out and fitness and I mean, you, you still are.

[Will Friedle]

He would eat a whole pizza in front of me.

He'd eat an entire pizza.

[Ryder Strong]

But he was working out every day.

[Will Friedle]

I know, but still, it would, I would look at a turkey sandwich, put on five pounds, he'd be like, I just ate three pizzas and I look a new ab.

[Matt Lawrence]

It was like, what the.

[Ryder Strong]

So annoying.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't, you know, I, I, it's funny, right? Again, the era, I think I was, you know, I think it was I just considered a part of my job, like.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, exactly.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

I didn't. You know, sadly, too, I was like, this is my appeal. I have to lean into it because I got nothing else.

[Ryder Strong]

That's part of being an actor, man. That's part of being an actor that, like, I resisted. I was always like, no, me too. I don't care what I look like, and nobody should care. It's like, we're watching you. Do you want people to look good? He was like, yeah, that's part of it. It's just, take care of yourself, man. No, no, that's not, you know, one.

[Will Friedle]

Of the other reasons I know that you were working out so hard and that you were, you, the way you looked was one of the ways you looked because you and I would talk about this all the time. You, especially at the time, were a huge Tom Cruise fan.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yes.

[Will Friedle]

And you wanted to, you, you were hoping that, like, that's your career trajectory, was like, you know, like kind of the actiony, cool kind of guy. So I remember that too, as you were like, no, that's part of it is there's a reason Tom Cruise is 137 years old right now and still starring in all these movies is because he took. Takes care of himself. Yeah. And so I know that was a big thing with you as well, was you were just a big Tom Cruise fan.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, absolutely. I, you know, looked up to those guys and I. The one thing that kind of always, you know, rang in my head was, you should always be prepared. Be prepared for it. Because trying to, trying to catch up, like, even Kobe Bryant when, When he used to say, you know, I was going to the gym at 4am and then at noon and then at, you know, 5 in the afternoon. And so years of that, you know, packed up, even the guys that are coming up behind you, there's no way they can catch up if they're only going once or they're only doing it every now and then. So it's like you get just so far ahead. So I really looked up to those, those guys and so I, you know, put that and applied that to my life where I, you know, no matter what, that it was a lifestyle choice, no matter what was going on, whether I was sick, whether I didn't have the time, that was. It had to be a priority. And it gave me the ability to eat whatever I wanted. Because you're right, I did eat whatever I wanted. But I was also young, you know.

[Will Friedle]

Of course. Yeah, young metabolism. Yeah, exactly.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, young metabolism. Working out that hard? Yeah, you can eat whatever the heck you want.

[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Well, we Will and I especially we all have some fears coming up in the in some of the season seven episodes. Most notably, both Will and I are are kind of dreading the episode coming up where we are both fat and.

[Will Friedle]

Also the episode where they pointed out.

[Danielle Fishel]

Anyway, right we're fat through the whole season.

[Ryder Strong]

The whole season.

[Danielle Fishel]

They're just the whole season. But the episode where we everyone has to talk about how fat.

[Ryder Strong]

We're not looking forward to that either. That's what's so crazy. Yeah, it's so crazy looking at it now. I'm like, will, you're like slightly overweight.

[Will Friedle]

I know, but that's the thing.

[Ryder Strong]

Definitely I've put out.

[Will Friedle]

That's the thing that amazed me. And we didn't talk about this our first episode, but I came on screen and I probably had put on 30, 35 pounds from the time from.

[Danielle Fishel]

There's no way.

[Will Friedle]

It might not look like it, but I, I was right. But Danielle, you put on six, seven pounds maybe, if that, I mean, I.

[Ryder Strong]

Can'T believe that they looked at this Danielle. And we're like, we need to comment on it with an effort.

[Will Friedle]

That's what I thought is crazy.

[Ryder Strong]

And it's like, right, because the writers and, and you know, adults maybe in general, we're comparing you to your 11 year old body. Like, think about how messed up that is. But that's what happens with child actors. Right? Like it's like your preteen self health. Everything else is like pitted against that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It's so unfair. It's like, it's gonna happen. We're going to get older. That happens. We're gonna change. Our bodies are going to change. But like, they don't want to hear it.

[Will Friedle]

People don't see that with that, with.

Actresses that we grew up with that.

Now hit a red carpet or something like that. And people are like, they don't look exactly like they did when they were 19.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know, exactly.

[Ryder Strong]

Are you kidding me?

[Will Friedle]

They look amazing for how they are now. That's the point. And so, yeah, it's, it's weird. That was a 90s. That was a big 90s thing.

[Ryder Strong]

Totally.

[Matt Lawrence]

It is. And I, and you know, it actually it's, it troubles me because I, I, you know, have nieces.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

And I, I, you know, have a little bit of touch with this kind of generation now that's in their later teens. And man, it's, it's, it's again, it's so focused on like, what can I change about my body and my faith with surgeries and I'm just like, oh my gosh, this is, it's getting, I mean, this is like, you know, I don't, I don't understand. You know, you gotta try to, you gotta try to embrace the aging and age as gracefully as you can. I don't understand trying to lock yourself. But that's why, Ryder, you just said it is because everybody is. The pressure of comparing you to your younger self is right.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Which is now game. Right.

[Matt Lawrence]

That's it. There's no way to win that one.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly.

[Ryder Strong]

And I think it's probably a lot.

[Will Friedle]

Harder for women than it is for men, too.

[Matt Lawrence]

And that's the other thing.

[Will Friedle]

A lot harder, smarter.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. The problem with social media is that it's just extended this to everybody.

[Matt Lawrence]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, it's no longer just child actors. It's like everybody who's been posting since they were 11 has put themselves out in this light and is now compared.

[Will Friedle]

To whatever reading about people in their.

20S and 30s getting plastic surgery.

Like, are you.

[Matt Lawrence]

Are you kidding me? Teenagers, bro. It's wild. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

I don't understand.

[Danielle Fishel]

And there's no doubt also that some of the 90s waif. Super, super, super thinness being very in. Is back full force.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

And so a lot of that pressure. Like, Matt, hearing you talk about your nieces, you know, it's like.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

When everything you're taking in online is about everyone being so skinny and so thin. And that is just a. It's an obsession. It's a very. It's very. It makes me feel I'm back. I'm like, oh, my gosh. I remember this feeling. And it's so interesting that we're watching season seven at kind of a peak. What for what feels like during this time where it feels like it's so.

[Will Friedle]

Back, but it's also now, especially for women, you're gonna get shamed whether you're overweight or too thin.

[Public Investing Representative]

Correct.

[Will Friedle]

Now. Now it doesn't matter what you do now. It's eat a sandwich or you shouldn't eat a sandwich. It's like, okay, well, how do I.

What.

What's the exact weight I need to be for you to show?

[Matt Lawrence]

Shut up.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly.

[Will Friedle]

It's like, I'm just curious what that is.

Give me the number.

Because apparently you're not happy no matter what I do.

[Ryder Strong]

It's weird.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

But so when we think about, like, that episode or the episode, the honeymoon episode, we feel a little like we're a little scared. Are there any episodes that. That the thought of them. You're like a. Where you're like, oh, yeah, I remember that one. Giving. Like, I have PTSD thinking about that one. Or do you overall just have an overall positive feeling of the season?

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, you know, I have an overall. It's just positive for me. I don't have, like, one episode that I'm dreading. Or.

[Will Friedle]

Aren't we with a monkey? Aren't we with a monkey at one point? Don't you and I have a storyline with a monkey?

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

Wait, what is that? What is the monkey?

[Will Friedle]

If memory serves, there's. You give me money to deposit in the bank and instead I give it to a monkey.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh my gosh.

[Matt Lawrence]

Sounds about right. So that.

[Will Friedle]

So, yeah, those are the things I'm dreading is the things. Because again, I don't. I think this is where you and I would have conversations a lot about how Danielle, Ryder and Ben would have these. And usually Trina would have these storylines like we saw in the first couple episodes where they're acting and they're doing that. And then you and I were like sneezing the lottery numbers and dealing with monkeys. And so that's why, while I don't remember exact storylines except for the monkey one, I. I fear that it's going to be you and I this season. Like, oh, and this is. We're doing this again, like for this episode. That.

[Danielle Fishel]

But now that I've seen the mopey A storyline as well as I have, I am loving your sneezing the lottery numbers.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Maybe we save it. Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thank God you. Thank God you do it because. What are memories of that final tape night? Do you remember? I remember just sobbing all, all, all night. Do you remember? Were you crying as well?

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I was definitely emotional, you know, especially just because you guys were. It was, it was so emotional for you guys and I understood why and I got completely caught up into it, you know, and it hit me, I think maybe like that next when we would have been coming back, you know, that's when it really hit me as to like, darn. And I don't know, who knows if that will ever happen again. And it never did. That feeling never happened again. So it was truly a one off, you know, and it was that special. So I definitely felt the weight of it, the gravity of the situation for sure.

[Ryder Strong]

Do you guys remember this? Danielle, you were not a part of this, but during season seven, we started like a really fancy dinner club.

[Matt Lawrence]

Club.

[Ryder Strong]

Do you guys remember this?

[Will Friedle]

Yes, of course I do.

[Ryder Strong]

The three of us and Ben. You don't remember this, Matt? We decided we'd go to like we were. At some point we realized that none of us had been because we were, you know, kids. We had never been to like any of the fancy restaurants in la. And so we said once a month we're gonna pick the fanciest. Like, so we went to Ivy Ivy, the Dome.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Do you remember this? We had like, we were just like, let's go have like a fancy night out. And we would. And I Remember one of them was really expensive. I remember the three of us being. Or the four of us being like, oh, God, what did we do? But it was a fun thing that we started in the, in the 70s. I totally had forgotten about that until, I don't know, relatively recently. I was like, we, we did. And we, we even kept it going after the show ended a little bit into the summer before I moved to New York. I remember we did it a few more times. So fun.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's so cute. Thanks for the invitation. I would love to do that with you.

[Will Friedle]

You were out partying and having your own life that we were not.

[Ryder Strong]

You were in Manhattan beach with dog Far Away.

[Will Friedle]

You were falling off of. Of buildings and stuff.

[Matt Lawrence]

Like falling.

[Danielle Fishel]

Falling off of six foot brick walls. Yeah. Oh, gosh.

[Matt Lawrence]

Oh, my goodness.

[Danielle Fishel]

You and your brothers have been doing quite a few live shows for your own podcast, Brotherly Love. Are you surprised by the fact that all of us have still been able to have such thriving, albeit different careers 30 years after some of our, you know, most famous shows or experiences were going live? Or is that, has that surprised you?

[Matt Lawrence]

No, I'm not surprised by it. I always. You look, I mean, you guys are infinitely talented. There's no reason as to why. I mean, look, we all come up, come up against, look every, any actor when you're, when you start young and you have a lot of success or you have a big hit show or something, that's a tough hurdle. Hurdle. It's a huge, huge hurdle. And, you know, mainly because. And I'm even realizing it, which is wild now, being on the other side and watching a show like Stranger Things.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

Seeing the kids all grow up and being like, I want them to grow up. I want them to be like they were in the first season. It's like exactly what people would do. Or other, you know, actors that started as kids, you know, you're like, like. Because I think it's just. It's sort of a reflection on how much time has passed. And I don't think, yeah, people want to see that time passing. And I'm going, wow. If they're getting, if they're growing up, what's happening to me? And, oh, my God, you know, it causes stress. So I totally understand it. So with those hurdles, you know, I'm just. What I'm really proud of is that the people that you have been able to become, because, as, you know, a lot of our peers, you know, have, you know, it's. It's been, it's been rough and they've They've fallen into, you know, lives that aren't conducive to health and wellness. And so I'm just super proud that you guys have been able to get over these hurdles and still let your abilities and your talents shine. So I'm not surprised. I'm just super proud that, you know, all of us are still here. We're living good lives.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

We're healthy. You know, I'm just. I'm proud of all you guys, that. That's what really gets me.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, in typical Matt fashion, I wanted to talk about you, your family, your podcast, your live shows, and you ended up making it. You turned around and said, but it's you guys, you guys, you guys. So I'm just going to be even more direct. Can we please talk about your wonderful podcast and your live shows that I was fortunate enough to be a guest test on there, and I told Fortunate.

[Matt Lawrence]

You bailed us out. We needed. We needed to so badly. I was like, please, please help us.

[Danielle Fishel]

It was so. I mean, it was just the most random thing.

[Matt Lawrence]

Too big to fail.

[Ryder Strong]

Too big. No, man. When. When I found out she had done your live show, I was like, oh, my God, they're doing a live show. That makes so much sense because you guys actually have talent.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

You can actually sing and dance and do stuff. I was like, yeah, the Lawrence brothers doing a live show.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's like a nice me. They were like, how was their live show? And I was like, it was so much better than ours.

[Ryder Strong]

It was so you can actually do the things. We put Will in a costume. That's our live show.

[Matt Lawrence]

Okay. When you do these musical numbers and you want to put on this fantastical show, you need a band. Oh, yeah. You got all this overhead, the rehearsals, guys.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's.

[Matt Lawrence]

Don't like, believe me, it was. It was a lot. A lot.

[Danielle Fishel]

I bet. But it paid off because I don't know if it paid off for you guys, but it paid off as the audience. For the audience.

[Ryder Strong]

Still paying it off.

[Matt Lawrence]

But we entertain the audience for sure.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Matt Lawrence]

Which was the most important thing.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. They. Everyone was very entertained, including my mom and I. And no, actually, my mom wasn't there. Jensen was there with me. But I did get to see. Get to spend some time with my mom and your brother Joe in New York. We were in New York together. Yeah. Joe and I got to take a picture. We sent it to Matt. It was really fun. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

So.

[Danielle Fishel]

And tell me about. Tell me a little bit about your podcast. How do you guys break up your Quote, unquote, seasons of the podcast. What season of the podcast are you in? Or do you not do it that way since you're not recapping anything?

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, we don't, we don't really do it that way. We're like, by numbers, just number of shows. I think we're in the. That we breached. Like, I think we're somewhere around like 140, rounding out 150 episodes, something like that. So that's how we, we look at it because we're trying to get to 500.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Matt Lawrence]

That's what I get to. That's what, like our ultimate goal would be to get a package of 500.

[Danielle Fishel]

Amazing. Is there a particular reason 500? Is the goal just something you guys set ahead of time or something you plan on doing when you reach 500?

[Matt Lawrence]

No, it's kind of like. It's just like a benchmark that we kind of set selves, I think, also in the, in the, you know, the podcast world. It's. It's interesting. You have to have this certain amount of episodes that really, you know, are. That's the right word, I guess.

[Will Friedle]

Are kind of.

[Matt Lawrence]

When you, when you get like that.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

When you have a catalog like that, it just makes it more appealing for people to host that. So I think you were just like, if we're going to make this, you know, all kind of pay off in the end of the day, if we could reach that 500 benchmark, I think it'd be something to be proud of.

[Danielle Fishel]

Great.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, now you are hosting the reality show Second Chance Love for the Hallmark Channel.

[Matt Lawrence]

Oh, yeah, you heard about that?

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So exciting. What a great gig. I mean, I'm gonna assume it's a great gig. I want you to tell us, but alongside your girlfriend, the effortlessly cool Chilli. And I know it is set in Sardinia. Italy does that. You guys were there too?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, sick.

[Danielle Fishel]

Tell us about it.

[Matt Lawrence]

Like, yeah, like you would normally do. We went out there for about three and a half, four weeks and shot all out and man, Sardinia, I can't. I can't go. I can't say enough about that place. There's a reason why it's a blue zone, you know, where people really have this extended life expectancy.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Matt Lawrence]

And it really comes down to those, those, those hallmarks that you. That they've come across when they study blue zones. And it's. The community is one and people are good to their neighbors. They take time for their friends and family. Like, it's like Spain in the same Way that in the middle of the day, 1 to 3pm, ghost town, there is nothing, no restaurant. Everybody is having lunch with their friends, taking time for themselves, doing what they need to do in the middle of the day. That's just consistent. And the food, guys, wow. The food is on another level, I'd put it. I don't know. When it comes to that type of food, that mix of Italian and Mediterranean, there's. It's at the top of the list I've ever been. It's incredible. And you can eat pizza and pasta and you don't feel bloated and you don't have the problems because it's not.

[Will Friedle]

There's no chemical, there's no chemicals and crap in it. It's just natural food. There's like, if you get pasta there, it's two ingredients. It's like flour and water pasta.

[Matt Lawrence]

Exactly. And the flour, they've. They've milled and, and ground up.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

Literally from the fields below the restaurant.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Matt Lawrence]

You can't get more natural. And you can feel it. Like, I honestly have trouble with the gluten here in, in the States. And, and I don't.

[Ryder Strong]

There.

[Matt Lawrence]

I can eat whatever I want. And it, and it, and you don't feel it, like. And you're walking. That's the other thing. You walk to dinner. You know, the dinner's three hours and then you walk home and it's, it's, it's. It's an amazing experience. We got not chili. And I got close with this one restaurant, this restaurant owner and his wife, to the point where we were hanging out with them on the weekends, going on boat rides to different islands. Like, it's very, you know, everybody is very warm and welcoming and it's, it's spectacular. It was an. Spectacular experience. The show was great. The production team was amazing. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Can you give us, I was going.

[Will Friedle]

To say, can you give us a breakdown? Like, what is the actual show?

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, the show is basically they, they, they take five couples, the. That, you know, knew each other or dated when they were younger, and they want to see if it's a second chance. It's like that one you always think about type of thing.

[Will Friedle]

I had that with my wife.

[Matt Lawrence]

There you go.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, sue and I dated 25 years ago and then, and then weren't together for like nine, nine, ten years and then got back together. So, yeah, I had that school. I had that exact thing with my wife.

[Matt Lawrence]

So, yeah, that is the whole premise of the show. To see if these, if, you know, if, if you had any regrets If. If it's something that can go forward or. Or if it's something that should be left in the past because.

[Ryder Strong]

So what are they doing? What are they doing? Are there games, competitions? What?

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah, there's. Yeah, there's. There's. It's more of like. I would say just more. Yeah, there's not.

[Ryder Strong]

It's more just outings and dates.

[Matt Lawrence]

It's kind of like. Yeah, there's just like, things to do. Like, we went. I took the guys, we went all like, go karting or we had a lesson in pasta making and. And then they, you know, go out on dates and they have time together, Whether it's relaxing via pool or going on an adventure. It's just. It's just.

[Ryder Strong]

But are they all together?

[Will Friedle]

I mean, is there a chance that, like, one couple and another couple end up?

[Danielle Fishel]

This is how you're gonna get willed.

[Will Friedle]

Whopping over where it's like all of a sudden like. Yeah, what if. No, I mean, like, what if, like, one guy falls in love with a girl who's dating another guy? Has that ever happened or.

[Ryder Strong]

No.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Matt Lawrence]

No, no, that's not that type of dating show.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, well, no, they were Hallmark.

[Matt Lawrence]

No, no.

[Will Friedle]

You don't know.

[Matt Lawrence]

Good. There's no salacious.

[Will Friedle]

Can't all spend.

Stay.

Stay together. Right. I mean, there has to be some that are like, we're just gonna be friends, right?

[Matt Lawrence]

No, no, no, no. Definitely.

[Will Friedle]

It's.

[Matt Lawrence]

It's. The. The outcome is. Is very authentic. I can just say that. Very authentic. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I can't wait.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, we are very excited to watch the show and to see more of you in season seven of Boy Meets World, so. So thank you for coming back on with us, Matt. We always love seeing you guys.

[Matt Lawrence]

I love it.

[Danielle Fishel]

If we ever have. If we have more questions throughout season seven, we're gonna force you to come back on.

[Matt Lawrence]

No, absolutely, guys. Are you kidding? I want to hang out with you guys anyway. Well, Ryder and I will talk to.

[Will Friedle]

You just off chain without Danielle about.

[Danielle Fishel]

Going to fancy restaurants, fancy restaurant, club.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it'll be awesome.

[Matt Lawrence]

Put that up again.

[Danielle Fishel]

We should spark that up. Just leave me out.

[Will Friedle]

No girls allowed.

[Ryder Strong]

Men eating Gentleman's F night.

[Danielle Fishel]

Let's not invite her. She won't eat. Well, what salad are you going to order?

[Ryder Strong]

You can go to your chain restaurant wherever you want to. It's also.

[Will Friedle]

We're men, Danielle. We can order for ourselves. You can't take the time to order for you as well.

[Matt Lawrence]

You have to.

[Will Friedle]

Do you cut my steak for a woman? No, you're not having steak tonight. I'll order clothes.

[Ryder Strong]

That's a direct reference to season or episode two of season seven.

[Danielle Fishel]

That episode two, Corey says to Topanga's dad, look at you. Your clothes are not ironed, and you've been eating takeout.

[Matt Lawrence]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

You don't have his wife, no one to cook for him, and no one to iron his shirts.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, God.

[Matt Lawrence]

Oh, wow.

[Ryder Strong]

So funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, Matt, thank you for being here with us as always. We will see you.

[Ryder Strong]

Let's.

[Danielle Fishel]

Let's get together, though, for real.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

All right, great. Thank you. Bye.

[Ryder Strong]

Bye.

[Matt Lawrence]

Bye, guys.

[Will Friedle]

Bye.

[Danielle Fishel]

Always so good to see him. He's just a ray of sunshine.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it's annoying. I was just with him and his two brothers. We were at a small convention in, I want to say Iowa. No, where's. Where's Ben's wife?

[Danielle Fishel]

I was thinking Indianapolis.

[Will Friedle]

Indianapolis, Indiana. Yeah, Indiana. So we were in doing a convention in Indiana together, and it was just myself next to the three guys for the weekend, and we had so much fun.

[Ryder Strong]

So much fun. That's what I said when I got stuck on this flight situation with three of them. I was like. I laughed the entire time.

[Will Friedle]

They're so much fun to be with. They really are. Their dynamic is great.

[Ryder Strong]

It is. And I wasn't kidding when I was like. It never occurred to me back then how much experience they already had. And I still really appreciate that, talking to them now, like, wow, you guys are old, like, pros. Like, you've been in this industry. And, like, he's so gracious and, like, respectful, and, you know, like, the conversations I've had with Matt over the years about, like, how he's approached his career and how he has a private life and, like, boundaries. He's so good at that stuff. Yeah. In a way that I've always been a complete mess.

[Will Friedle]

So I think from 99 to 2001, I had worked with the Savages, the Lawrences, and the Culkins. It was like the three kid master families, royalty of all this stuff. So it was just to see the dynamics of a family where everybody's kind of in the industry and you grow up in the industry. It's really interesting to see what some people do right, what some people do wrong. And, I mean, the Lawrences, they're all good guys with good heads on their shoulders. Not to say the other families aren't. I'm just. I know them the best.

[Matt Lawrence]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

And they're. Yeah, they're all great guys.

[Bowen Yang]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram Pod Meets World show. You can send us your emails pod meets world showmail.com and we've got merch.

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Don't forget your Mopanga merch. It won't be sold out though because nobody likes me. Love is dead merch.

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