Mena Suvari Meets World

Summary

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Pod Meets World: "Mena Suvari Meets World" (October 13, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this heartfelt and revealing episode, Danielle Fishel, Rider Strong, and Will Friedle welcomed actress Mena Suvari to reflect on her earliest days in Hollywood, including her first TV appearance on Boy Meets World, her journey from child actor to breakout stardom in American Pie and American Beauty, and her struggles and triumphs along the way. The conversation is peppered with 90s nostalgia, behind-the-scenes stories, deeply personal reflections on fame and struggle, and candid advice for young actors.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mena Suvari’s Early Career and First TV Roles

• Boy Meets World was Mena’s first TV credit, after she had done several commercials (Rice-A-Roni, Pizza Hut, Kodak).
• She appeared in two different Boy Meets World episodes, playing different characters (“Laura” in S2’s "Danger Boy," and “Hilary” in S3’s "The Grass Is Always Greener").
• Mena recalls the nerve-wracking experience of performing in front of a live audience with little theater experience.
• The hosts note that reusing guest actors in multiple roles was a Boy Meets World tradition.
• The group reminisces about 90s wardrobe, with Mena remembering a distinctive green sweater and pink polka-dot top.

Notable Quote:

“I was really just kind of living in this place of, like, you know, doing this, doing that... Not thinking too much about it, going on the auditions…”
— Mena Suvari (19:14)

Timestamps:

• [17:16] Danielle asks about returning to the show after 30 years.
• [19:14] Mena on not realizing the significance of the show at the time.

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2. Behind-the-Scenes Memories & Nostalgia

• Mena reminisces about being new to LA, auditioning relentlessly, and living in the Oakwood apartments.
• Rider reveals he had a crush on Mena during their time on set but admits she was oblivious.
• Danielle brings up specific wardrobe choices and the re-appearance of props and costumes.

Notable Quote:

“I had such a crush on you... I spent the entire week trying to hang out with you as much as I could. You were just the coolest girl I had ever met.”
— Rider Strong (25:53)

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3. Navigating Adolescence & Hollywood

• Mena opens up about challenges transitioning from commercial/modeling work to TV acting.
• Her family made major sacrifices, moving cross-country for her career; Mena was supporting the family from a young age.
• She and the hosts reflect on how child actors often struggle with imposter syndrome, feeling that adults around them had all the answers, only to find that no one really does.

Notable Quote:

“I still feel like that sometimes... I think it was when you turned 18, I had this concept that, like, when that happened, you just knew everything.”
— Mena Suvari (49:55)

Timestamps:

• [31:46] Mena describes school and moving for her career.
• [49:23] Discussion on imposter syndrome and adulting.

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4. Breakout Roles and Fame: American Pie & American Beauty

• Mena talks about filming American Pie and American Beauty back-to-back, not realizing their cultural impact at the time.
• She reflects on how work served as her "rescue" during a personally dark period.
• The cast discusses topic sensitivity in films, and whether a movie like American Beauty could be made in 2025.

Notable Quote:

“I honestly thought that every movie made $100 million... I didn’t have that ability to look at a script and think, like, people are going to love this or this is going to be a hit.”
— Mena Suvari (43:10)

Timestamps:

• [42:32] Danielle asks if filming American Pie felt special.
• [46:25] Mena describes her personal struggles during her breakthrough.

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5. Personal Struggles, Survival, and Memoir

• Mena is candid about enduring abusive relationships, family pressures, and drug use as a teen and young adult.
• She discusses her memoir, The Great Piece (2021), which she wrote to help others and share her truth.
• The conversation turns to the normalization of sexualizing young women in the 90s.
• Danielle and Rider recognize the value of openly addressing mental health and trauma.

Timestamps:

• [47:01] Mena discusses dark relationships and being cast in sexualized roles.
• [48:25] On the importance of honesty and helping others by sharing her experiences.

Notable Quote:

“I talk a lot about how I feel like being in this industry, being an actor, being able to perform this art, really saved my life...”
— Mena Suvari (74:42)

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6. The Changing Landscape of Celebrity and Social Media

• The hosts and Mena explore the challenges of growing up in the spotlight before and after social media.
• Mena recalls how magazine coverage shaped her reality as a teen, and how misquotes in print interviews could be damaging.
• Will notes how social media has exacerbated self-comparison and distorted perceptions for the new generation.

Notable Quote:

“I couldn’t imagine going through... what we all went through was tough enough, but now doing it where everybody is in the public eye, it just seems like it would be such a daunting task...”
— Will Friedle (50:34)

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7. Career Highlights, Misses, and Reflections

• Mena shares that she was almost cast in Spider-Man (the role went to someone else).
• She talks about recent projects (Death of a Brewer, Vampires of the Velvet Lounge, etc.) and the importance of being present and appreciating her work now versus early in her career.
• The group discusses the nature of “missed opportunities” and the resilience required in Hollywood.

Notable Quote:

“Those are the moments that you have, and then you’re just like, yeah, but you know what? I still see this and I still love this... It just wasn’t meant in some way.”
— Mena Suvari (65:31)

Timestamp:

• [63:44] Mena on almost being cast as Mary Jane in Spider-Man.

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8. Parenthood and Advice for Child Actors

• Mena is protective of her young son, choosing not to expose him to the business yet.
• She admires parents who keep the industry “fun” for kids and offers advice about encouraging autonomy and creating options beyond acting.

Notable Quote:

“[For my son] I really care a lot about giving him the opportunity to be who he is and not Suvari’s son. I want him to develop...the life that he wants and the interests that he wants...”
— Mena Suvari (77:03)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You played some flirty girls in your two episodes of Boy Meets World... Did you ever see the show before auditioning?” — Danielle Fishel (18:53)
• “They used like the one [take] that was the middle of the road, like kind of interested, but not too... By the time we got to tape night, you were probably just like, eh.” — Mena Suvari (21:34 & 21:39)
• “I do have a lot of photos as well... I have some of me, like, in the makeup chair.” — Mena Suvari (23:45–24:04)
• “I was always, like, wanting to kind of, like, be back here and...But when I was there, I do remember just feeling so cared for by them, particularly.” — Mena Suvari (59:17)
• “I like to focus on the aspect of how [social media] gives us the opportunity to really share what we’re interested in.” — Mena Suvari (82:58)

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Important Timestamps

• [17:16] — Mena reflects on returning to Boy Meets World after 30 years.
• [19:14–21:55] — Earliest TV roles and nerves on set.
• [25:53] — Rider admits teen crush on Mena.
• [31:46–37:46] — Mena’s moves, family sacrifices, and Oakwood apartment stories.
• [42:32] — How American Pie and American Beauty changed her life.
• [47:01–49:23] — Personal struggles, abuse, drug use, and transformation into memoir.
• [50:34] — Social media and pressure on young stars.
• [63:44] — Almost starring in Spider-Man.
• [77:03] — Parenting, boundaries, and advice for the next generation.
• [79:58] — Memoir details: The Great Piece (2021).
• [82:58] — On the purpose of social media: sharing authentically.

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Conclusion

This episode of Pod Meets World offered more than just fun nostalgia—it delivered a deeply personal journey through childhood acting, breakout fame, struggles behind the spotlight, recovery, and wisdom hard-won. Mena Suvari’s honesty, humor, and perspective made for one of the series’ most moving interviews, showing the complexity of growing up onscreen and the strength it takes to thrive both in and beyond Hollywood. For fans of Boy Meets World, 90s pop culture, or anyone interested in the emotional realities of child stardom, this episode is essential listening.

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Follow Mena Suvari on Instagram @menasuvari. Her memoir, "The Great Piece," is available now. Watch for her upcoming films, including "Death of a Brewer" and "Vampires of the Velvet Lounge."

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Transcript

[Mina Suvari]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Rider Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Mina Suvari]

Uh huh.

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[Rider Strong]

So I've been going into production on a project which I will be able to tell you all about in a couple of months. But. So we've been, you know, doing days at my house, mostly with very small crew, mostly just my producers and whatnot. But day one, we, like. I made sure we got, like, great bagels, had them all laid out, and then we break for lunch and we're like, oh, what are we going to order for lunch? By day three, we're like, just sandwiches. What am I. You know? And I just realized, like, this is the way production goes, right? Like, the quality of food just gets steadily worse as you just get into production. And it made me think of some of the worst food that I've had on sets because they can go so extreme. There are. There have been sets where you go there and, like, they have, you know, sushi and catered lunches, and it's just like, the budget is insane. And then there are other sets where that's really not the case. And for me, like, the best example, and this is, I might have actually told a version of the story. I know it's out there in the world because I think it's even, like a trivia fact on IMDb. But I did this movie, My Giant, which I know we've talked about, right. So I went to. I went to Prague to shoot this movie. And the food was subpar.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Left a lot to be desired.

[Rider Strong]

And there is a scene where I get puked on by the giant. And in order to make it, you know, believable, they took some potatoes and carrots and food dye and made this giant vat because I had to be covered in vomit. It was one of those classic kid actor scenes where it's just cover the kid and stuff.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

So they had this giant vat sitting on the set. And the extras. There were about, like 100 extras that day. Thought it was lunch.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, no, they ate out of vomit bag.

[Rider Strong]

They had to stop them from eating. Like, they were like, no, no, no, no. That's production.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's production vomit.

[Rider Strong]

They're there with bowls and spoons.

[Will Friedle]

You've got catered vomit. Production vomit.

[Rider Strong]

Catered vomit. So I don't know have you guys ever had like a. A truly great or truly horrible on set food experience?

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, I'll tell you right now, the movie I directed for to be.

[Rider Strong]

No Food Budget.

[Danielle Fishel]

First of all, we ran out of craft service on like day three.

[Will Friedle]

What?

[Danielle Fishel]

It was just.

[Will Friedle]

There's not even a Red vine to be had.

[Danielle Fishel]

There was there. There was a. Not a Red vine. And I, I all of a sudden noticed it. I was like, what. Why is there. Why is there nothing to eat here? And they were like. We ran out and so I paid out of pocket to have a massive Costco run where we could just bring all the stuff. That movie had some of the worst craft service I've ever had. Cut to. Now I'm doing Dancing with the Stars. Oh, and on tape. First of all, the little craft service thing on Magical.

[Will Friedle]

Magical.

[Danielle Fishel]

Magical. They have a section that's very clearly geared toward kids. So it's like all the different types of fruit snacks, all the different types of granola. Granola bars, a candy section, jelly beans, like, you name it. I get a writer for in my room. Anything I want and need in my writer the minute you arrive.

[Rider Strong]

Stinky broccoli.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, of course, immediately.

[Danielle Fishel]

It wouldn't be. It wouldn't be a tape day without writer. Stinky. Stinky broccoli.

[Will Friedle]

Why is it mine? Just because I opened it, it was yours.

[Mina Suvari]

I'll tell you why.

[Danielle Fishel]

Because you're the one who wanted vegetables.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. You guys just want a whole plate.

[Rider Strong]

Peanut butter cups.

[Danielle Fishel]

And all I care about is water.

[Mina Suvari]

And peanut butter cups.

[Will Friedle]

I had water. That was it. I had bubbly water. That was bubbly water. Yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So no, but like the minute we get there, we. We tape next door to an Erewhon. Whatever I want avocado toast, two eggs.

[Rider Strong]

Oh, my God.

[Will Friedle]

So they're moving money around from Switzerland so they can go to Erewhon.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Nice.

[Danielle Fishel]

A cup. A cup of coffee from a very specific coffee place called Andante. Yeah, they bring. I mean. I mean, an energy shot. Nope. Yeah, they just all day long do, what do you want for lunch? It's glorious, magical. Yeah, it's pretty great. So I have definitely. I have been on both sides of the spectrum.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well.

[Will Friedle]

So, yeah, I mean, I have to. Obviously you go. You do smaller productions where there's nothing. I was just at a convention where the green room was just a room. Like a small closet room. No water, no napkins, no anything. Literally nothing. Literally nothing. It was just. It was three chairs that if you wanted to sit down and get some food you could, but I was.

[Rider Strong]

Do you remember? It was just like, oh, there's a whole bunch of sandwiches. There's turkey or Turkey or Turkey. Turkey. Yeah. That was it.

[Will Friedle]

No, but one of the best shows I was ever on. Every day they just brought the In N Out truck.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my gosh. Every day.

[Will Friedle]

Magical.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

The days that I was there.

[Danielle Fishel]

Excessive. That's the excessive red meat.

[Will Friedle]

It was. It was magical.

[Danielle Fishel]

Every day, huh?

[Will Friedle]

No, actually, the more red, the more burgers you eat, the healthier they get. People don't know that there's a. There's a.

[Danielle Fishel]

There's a threshold.

[Will Friedle]

You hit a threshold where then it becomes diet food. So that's just science. That's. Everybody knows that.

[Danielle Fishel]

So I had a burger last night. I. You know.

[Will Friedle]

It was dropped off to you, wasn't it, at your home?

[Mina Suvari]

Was.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

By producer Tara.

[Danielle Fishel]

Producer Box. Yeah. I'm so hungry. By the time our tape nights are.

[Will Friedle]

Over, I couldn't imagine.

[Rider Strong]

Because I'm getting hungry now.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Should we move forward into this episode?

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Are we going to have a vat. A puke for lunch? Is that the plan?

[Mina Suvari]

What are we doing?

[Danielle Fishel]

Somebody chop up the carrots and bring out the tomatoes. It's time for puke lunch.

[Will Friedle]

It's puke lunch. Awesome. Please don't eat that. Please don't eat that. That's.

[Danielle Fishel]

Please put the puke down. Welcome to Pod Meats World. Oh, I say my name.

[Will Friedle]

You'Re officially doing too much. Danielle. You're officially doing too much.

[Rider Strong]

She's going to start tangoing while we're doing this.

[Will Friedle]

Seriously.

[Mina Suvari]

Welcome to Pod meets World.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm Danielle Fishel.

[Rider Strong]

I'm Ryder Strong.

[Will Friedle]

And I'm Will Friedle.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Rider Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

When it comes to the legacy of Boy Meets World, there is a lot we leave behind. The effortless, family friendly mix of comedy and drama that TV still has problems perfecting the comfort of its characters. Corey, Eric, Topanga Shawn, Angela, I mean, Bill Daniels. It seems like no matter how many Emmys he won before he took the role of Mr. Feeny, it's now the character that will define an incredible career in Hollywood. But one other very cool aspect about Boy Meets World that seems even more relevant in 2025, the careers that started right there. On an ABC Friday night, we've talked to Adam Scott, whose first real TV set was that of John Adams High, Ethan Suplee, early career, Linda Cardellini and Brittany Murphy. We had future superstars just driving by saying hi on their way to much bigger projects. Yet it seems like our show is still one of the things they're constantly reminded of now, three decades later. And our guest this week is a perfect example of this trajectory. She was a two timer, appearing in two Boy Meets World episodes, season two's Danger Boy and season three's the Grass is Always Greener, playing Laura and Hillary, respectively. But she'd break through in 1999 with two films that helped define an entire era of cinema. The gross out slapstick of American Pie, creating a revolution in theaters for the R rated teen comedy and American Beauty, a best picture winner that set the standard for black comedy and is constantly listed as one of the century's best. She'd become Hollywood's it girl at a speed that's rarely seen on the screen. She'd follow up with movies like Sugar and Spice, Domino and Spun, and let's not forget about the American Pie sequels, a franchise that appears to be getting another installment soon. And she's made endless TV appearances from Psych to Six Feet under to Chicago Hope. But today we are talking to her about the start of her career. The time she played two different flirty girls on the TGIF sitcom Boy Meets World and helped our legacy live forever. Welcome to POD Meets World. Someone we have hoped to interview for a while. It's Mina Suvari.

[Rider Strong]

She's kind of there.

[Danielle Fishel]

Does this feel so weird to be back all in the room together 30 years later?

[Mina Suvari]

This is wild. This is wild. I don't know if I have enough words, you know, guys, I was, I was looking up the, the episodes that I was in, which is like a whole other conversation of. I was in two of them, but it's my first credit on imt.

[Rider Strong]

Wow. Was it actually your first job then?

[Mina Suvari]

Well, I had done some commercials. Yeah, I had done a couple of commercials. I did a Rice, a Roni commercial, which, which I always joke that I was like the other girl. I didn't even get to eat the rice. A Roni. And I got my SAG card.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. Doing that. Did they let you eat it at lunch at least, or.

[Mina Suvari]

No, it's funny. You know the actress Vanessa Shaw?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, sure.

[Mina Suvari]

So it was her sister, Natalie Shaw, and it was like a joke where it's like, you know, we're at high school, we run into each other, we're wearing, like, the same outfit, and then she was, like, talking about it over the rice. Roni at the end. So I was like, the other girl.

[Danielle Fishel]

Can I have a bite? Anything.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, but this was. But so I did. I did that. I did, like, a Pizza Hut commercial. I did a Kodak commercial. And then. Yeah, I was like, doing these kind of, like, guest spots, you know?

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

Chicago Hope. I was always, like, the rebellious teenager or, like, totally 90s, like, slightly naughty, salacious teammates.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, you were a little.

[Rider Strong]

You were.

[Danielle Fishel]

You played some flirty girls in your two episodes of Boy Meets World. We first saw you in season two in Danger Boy, and we just talked about in your intro that there are quite a few people. Boy Meets World was their first credit. Adam Scott, Ethan Suplee. You had you ever seen Boy Meets World before you auditioned for it?

[Mina Suvari]

No, but it's not. It has nothing to do with that. I just sort of. No, I. I mean, I still kind of live under a rock. Like, I wasn't. I. What. I was kind of living in this space of being in LA and it Being new and adapting to. I came from South Carolina, so, like, adapting to high school and auditioning after school, and now I was sort of, like, in this weird grind of, you know, it took me a long time to really understand, like, the business aspect of things or kind of being a part of it. I was. It's. It's so hard to describe, but I was really just kind of living in this place of, like, you know, doing. Doing this, doing that, like, not thinking too much about it, going on the auditions. I do remember, though, with the show and the first episode for me, going over that line, he drinks water, like, over and over and over again.

[Will Friedle]

I don't remember your first episode.

[Rider Strong]

I remember your second one. You played like, a bouncer, like, letting people into the club. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Where.

[Rider Strong]

I think it's where, Danielle, you were pretending to be the French girl.

[Danielle Fishel]

The French girl. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Right. But what was your first episode? Something about drinking water.

[Will Friedle]

No, I remember your. I don't know why, but your exact line and performance sticks in my head. I don't know why it is. He spits water. Why does he spit Water. It's just in my head when he's.

[Danielle Fishel]

Pretending to be the fountain.

[Mina Suvari]

Remember when he's like, well, I just watched it again. Another girl, I assume my friend. And Ryder, you're like, the girls are here. Or like the girls are coming, which is always. And then we kind of show up and she mentions that, yeah, he spits water. And then I'm like, he spits water. And then it's something like, oh, I want to see that. Can you do it for me? It was funny watching it again now because I remember doing it like a lot more. I don't know, with like more pizzazz or more like you thought you were really acting. They used like the one that was like the middle of the road, like kind of like interested, but like, not too.

[Rider Strong]

You've been doing it all week. By the time we got to tape night, you were probably just like, eh.

[Mina Suvari]

No, I mean, my mom would talk about it too and I would run it with her. He drinks water. He drinks water. Like, no, because it was like my line. Yes, there was. Right?

[Rider Strong]

Your first big job. Your first drinks water.

[Will Friedle]

He drinks water.

[Danielle Fishel]

He drinks. He spits.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Funny too, because that was such a. I mean, I only did it really with this show. And then there was another show.

[Rider Strong]

That.

[Mina Suvari]

I guess start on, but that whole experience. And I know you guys were so used to this, but it was like a totally different entity and like, so nerve wracking being there in front of an audience and like, because I haven't. I don't have like a lot of theater experience. So it was pretty, pretty, like exciting, but also terrifying at the moment. You couldn't mess up. You couldn't. There was a lot of that, you know, those, those nerves around it for me.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Do you remember your audition at all?

[Mina Suvari]

I don't. Can we talk about why I was in two episodes?

[Rider Strong]

Yes.

[Mina Suvari]

Characters. Because it always makes me laugh. And when you talk about other people coming from the show. Did they ever do that?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

It was a boy meets world tradition.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Mina Suvari]

Really interesting to me because it blows my mind that I don't know how much that would happen nowadays. Like, probably not.

[Will Friedle]

No, no, because there's. There was no streaming at the time, so you couldn't binge.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So it's like if you show up here and then, hey, you show up six months later, nobody's going to put the two together. Now it's like, wait a minute.

[Rider Strong]

Our producers also just really, if they liked somebody, especially a kid, you know, because the pickings were slim. They'd be like, oh, we'll just bring so and so back, you know, But I don't know. Did you have to aud for the second one or do you remember?

[Mina Suvari]

I'm pretty sure I did, guys, for sure. But I don't remember the audition, per se. And I do know, but that's just me because again, I'm horrible. But I. I do have a lot of photos as well.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, really?

[Mina Suvari]

Both of us? I have photos and I'm so bad. Damn it. I'd have to come back on.

[Rider Strong]

Oh, my God. I want to see those.

[Danielle Fishel]

If you can just take pictures of them or scan them and email them to us. We would love to see them. We'd love to post them on our socials.

[Mina Suvari]

Yes, I do have them. And I have some of me, like, in the makeup chair.

[Rider Strong]

Yes.

[Mina Suvari]

Getting ready. And then I have some of us, like, outside the studio. That's so cute. Outside the studio door.

[Rider Strong]

Yep.

[Mina Suvari]

You know, being kids.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you remember the wardrobe? It is very 90s and we just loved it. You're wearing a tight green sweater over a pink polka dot top.

[Mina Suvari]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

And you were actually one of two girls to wear that polka dot top on the show.

[Mina Suvari]

Oh, really? We saw it a few episodes. Yeah, we saw it a few episodes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Later, and I was like, hey, that's.

[Mina Suvari]

A pink polka dot top. How dare they?

[Danielle Fishel]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mina Suvari]

So they had this kind of theme, like, we'll have them back. We like the polka dot bodysuit or whatever. Maybe we'll change it up and put a green sweater over it. I did see. Which I thought was really cute. Somebody commenting that they. They watched that episode because they thought my outfit was so cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah, okay. It is. It's very cool. You looked so cool in it.

[Mina Suvari]

And. And then the second episode with, like, the. What was it, like, Doc Martens and, like the dress. Yeah. Very 90s. It's all back.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah, it's all back. I know, I know. Do you remember any specific. I mean, I want to see these pictures of you with Ryder. I think that sounds so cute. Like, do you remember any specific interactions with. With any of us?

[Mina Suvari]

I just remember everybody being, like, really nice and friendly and, you know, just welcoming. And again, I think I was really caught up with a lot of nerves and, like, just feeling kind of not, like, fully overwhelmed, but, like, starstruck to all of it. You know, you and I hung out a bunch.

[Rider Strong]

I had such a crush on you, and I spent you. Yes. I spent the entire week trying to hang out with you as much as I could. You don't remember this. Maybe I wasn't that obvious, but like, I remember you and I spending a lot of time together and, like hanging out in the classroom and school room and then walk. And you were just the coolest girl I had ever met. I was, like, obsessed with you.

[Mina Suvari]

Well, that just shows, like, how kind of dumb I am because I just thought you were really nice.

[Danielle Fishel]

He's like, this is so friendly.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, no, but it was. Yeah. I do remember us, like, you know, like hitting it off and feeling more connected and.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

And that meant everything, you know, because, I mean, it's, you know, a bit like later in my career I was. I was able to do an arc on Six Feet under and it was kind of like that same thing. Like you're going into this, you know, this world, this entity that's already been completely set up and it's a family and it's like so hard to fit into that. And especially when you're just doing like, you know, a couple lines.

[Rider Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

So you're back for season three for the Grass is Always Greener. You play another flirty girl, this time named Hilary. And I think it's so interesting that every time we ask somebody who did more than one episode and we say, do you remember having to audition again? Most of the time the answer is is no. And it really does make me think. I find it hard to believe they would make her audition again. Especially Michael, who loved working with actors he just liked working with and like, regularly would bring back actors. Michael was always really good about that. Like, if he liked somebody, he'd bring him back on another show.

[Rider Strong]

We had the same casting director, Sally, for all six, all seven seasons. So I feel like, yeah, I feel like you were just on the roster. You know, they'd be like, oh, I'd love to know.

[Mina Suvari]

I mean, that was the biggest compliment. I don't. I wouldn't put money on that. But that sounds nice. It's like, I mean, because, you know, it's. That was just part of it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

And I mean, it's wild just to see how much of it has changed. Like, that was such a. Just again, a big part of it. Going into a room with like, I don't know, 12 plus people and kind of like do it one shot. And you know, nowadays it's like you can self shape, you know, comfort wherever and do it as many times as you want. You don't have that part of it. So.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Do you remember getting any specific Direction on either of your two episodes. Do you remember working with the directors?

[Mina Suvari]

I don't. That's horrible to say. It's, It's. No, I, I don't. But it's, it's not just that part of it. I think it's also. I wasn't like, tuned to that in a way. Like, it's so hard to describe. I sort of, I, I wrote about my life a little while ago and sort of talked about a lot of my younger years and like, what that was like for me and what perspective I had. I was so used to. I mean, the best way I've been able to kind of put it is that I was so used to kind of like doing the do, like doing the, the grind kind of going in as long as I completed what I had to do. Like, I, I felt very separate from a lot of. Maybe this is why I didn't pick up on things with the writer, but like, I felt very separate from.

[Danielle Fishel]

The.

[Mina Suvari]

Rest of like the crew or the cast. I had to learn later in the industry, like, how I really was able to hold apart with that. And so, yeah, I didn't have that perspective of like understanding what I was doing and working with the director to kind of like complete this, this thing that we're all in together.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. The collaborative nature of how it comes together. Yeah, yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

So I think I might have been more caught up in just sort of, I mean, taking the direction, but not like remembering those collaborative, like cohesive moments.

[Rider Strong]

Right, yeah. You're also 15 or whatever, you know, like.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, 15, 16.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Did you have a crew of young actors that you hung around with in LA around this time? Did you go to traditional school? Who were your friends?

[Mina Suvari]

Oh, gosh. I mean, I, I came out to LA and I, I went the first two years to Notre Dame.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Mina Suvari]

In the Valley. And I had come from an all girls school, so I was going into a co ed private Catholic, not Catholic. That was very interesting. And no, I didn't, I didn't. I had to start all over in a way. So I, I did have a best friend that I hung out with the most, Nicole. But I didn't have like a slew of friends. Like, I totally like the nerd. Very much made fun of. It was hard for me to do work or, you know, like, I was given a hard time from the school or like having to do makeup work, the teachers, things like that. So I, I joke, like, you know, working on American Pie later, that it kind of gave me my high school experience because it was opposite. And then I went to Providence in Burbank for the last two years. So, okay, I transferred over. I was very much into, like, academics, getting my work done, but I was, like, ready to.

[Will Friedle]

Ready to bounce.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, you're ready to get out of there. You're originally from Rhode island, right? But you ended up in New York to model?

[Mina Suvari]

I was. No, I was born in Rhode island, and then I lived there until I was about. Well, we. I lived somewhere else just for one year. When I was 8, I came back to Rhode island and had 4th and 5th grade. During that time, when I was younger, we would drive to Boston and I was part of Cameo Kids, which was a modeling agency in Boston. I believe they let me go when I lost my two front teeth. You can't model anymore. Take a break. And then after Rhode island for middle school, transferred for middle school to Charleston, South Carolina. And then by that time, there was, like, a local modeling agency. It was called Millie Lewis. I just went with a friend, kind of like one of those, like, you know, take a class and, like, learn how to put on makeup. Do you remember caboodles?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, are you kidding? My kitten Caboodle was everything.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah. Learn how to put on makeup, like, take a photo, this kind of thing. And then it started to snowball. Like, they wanted me to join the agency, and then they wanted me to go to a modeling competition that was nationwide. Long story long. I ended up signing with Wilhelmina, but in their kids division called We Willies, which was in New York. And so then I was 12. 12. I did the summer in New York. 13. They wanted me to come out to LA, still under Wilhelmina. And then I got my Race and Ronnie commercial. But then they're like, you should move out here. And after big discussion, my parents decided to come out. And then I started high school. And so then I was just sort of like, auditioning after school, that kind of thing. I remember even with Rice and. Sorry, Rice and Ronnie leaving the audition thinking the casting director absolutely hated me, like, there was no way I was going to get the job. And I got the job.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, wow, my perception's really off.

[Mina Suvari]

That seems to be the theme. And then. Yeah, and then just started to, like, Boy Meets World, Like, Chicago Hope. ER did an episode of er.

[Danielle Fishel]

Were your parents in the industry at all? How. What did they do? How did they just. Are you an only child? How did they just decide to pick up and move across the country?

[Mina Suvari]

Great question. I have three older brothers.

[Rider Strong]

Wow.

[Mina Suvari]

The one up from me was a bit caught in the mix. The older two were already in college by then, beginning college. And yeah, I remember a lot of like cross country driving, road trips in my grandmother's Fleetwood Cadillac.

[Will Friedle]

Nice.

[Mina Suvari]

Those were the days of the road trips transporting everything over. And my father had me pretty late. He was older than my mom, so he was sort of retired by then. And I can only assume, yeah, they were kind of going with it and.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

But yeah, we didn't really. I had, I have like two second cousins out here. It's like the only family. So we're able to connect with them. And then, yeah, just started the, the journey. You can look back and see the couple crazy managers I had. And then like, you know, finally from, from. Oh, I was with Gold Marshak. Do you remember Gold Marshak? You were in Burbank. There was, do you remember there was that big brown building off of Olive and there was a restaurant called Dalt's.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, I remember, I remember, of course.

[Mina Suvari]

Remember Dalt's, like the Hangout. So around that time of like having the commercials and probably working on this show, I was with Gold Marshak. And then I eventually was introduced to an agent at Gersh and then I was there for a bit. So, yeah, I mean, I've lived here way too long when I think about.

[Danielle Fishel]

If my kid was deciding to act. And then somebody said to me, listen, Adler's really talented. I think you guys should move to New York. I'd be like, well, we're obviously not going to pick up for the kid, for the six year old. Like, you know, it just.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

And yet so many people we talked to who it totally paid off for that it was the right move that families are just willing to take that, that leap based on, you know, instinct and, and obviously the knowing. It's, it's so, it's so remarkable. Like, thank God your parents were like, yeah, you know what, I'm retired. And you know, did your mom work? Was she able to just get a job out here?

[Mina Suvari]

No, no, she didn't actually. I mean, I was sort of like supporting the family certain extent then I was also going to throw in there when we came out here. We stayed at the Oakwood.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, yes.

[Mina Suvari]

Didn't we all like something else in like they changed the name.

[Rider Strong]

They should just go back to Oakwood. It's ridiculous.

[Will Friedle]

Do you remember your building?

[Mina Suvari]

I don't remember my building, but I do. I remember like the pool area. I remember like rec area where I tried to take an aerobics class and just heavily failed. Like somewhere in the back, I was like, occupy my day. They had, like, a communal, like, a piano in there. I would sort of just like, wander around the oak wood, like, you know, I remember hiking, too. I started hiking. I think I even hiked up, like, that hill that's, like, behind Oakwood.

[Rider Strong]

Oh, yeah, I used to. I used to do that, too.

[Mina Suvari]

Oh, man, those were kind of the days, too. I mean, I grew up, like, in the 80s, and it was sort of like, good luck, see you at dinner, you know?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mina Suvari]

Come home.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, come home.

[Rider Strong]

When the light.

[Will Friedle]

When the sun starts to go down. That's how it's supposed to be.

[Mina Suvari]

So I would like, wander around the oak wood. And eventually, as I got older, and then we moved to off of Glen Oaks on the other side of the river by San Fernando. And across the street was a Blockbuster. And I do. My brother, one of my brothers worked there for, like, a summer. Remember Blockbuster?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. I was married because of Blockbuster.

[Will Friedle]

I'm married because of Blockbuster. So, yeah, it's.

[Mina Suvari]

Oh, what? Really?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. I was returning a tape while my wife and I remit, and then I proposed to her right in front of what used to be the Blockbuster five years later.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So he still has a Blockbuster card.

[Will Friedle]

Damn. Right.

[Rider Strong]

In his wallet.

[Danielle Fishel]

In his wallet. That he carries around with him for. We don't know. Listen. We don't know.

[Mina Suvari]

It's amazing how much I have no problems with anything they just said was the best.

[Will Friedle]

Thank you.

[Mina Suvari]

Be kind and rewind.

[Danielle Fishel]

Be kind. Rewind.

[Mina Suvari]

Yep, exactly.

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[Danielle Fishel]

Well, after Boy Meets World, you were just off to the races, er, Kiss the girls. And soon after American Pie. So much of young Hollywood broke out from this movie while you were filming. Did you know it was special? Did it just feel special?

[Mina Suvari]

No, I told you, like the worst with these answers. I just had no clue. And Again, I mean, I've recently talked about this, but that point, that period of my life was pretty heavy and pretty dark. So I was saved very much by working on that film and, you know, going to work with like, Chris Klein and people that really made it beautiful and, and positive. It was a, it was a nice rescue from a lot of things. So, no, I did not have that concept. I worked on American Pie and then American Beauty back to back pretty much. And then they came out back to back. And I've mentioned this, I will not lie. I honestly thought that every movie made $100 million. Like, I just, right, lived in a movie place of focusing on the work, doing my job, being a good student, but I didn't have that ability to look at a script and think, like, people are going to love this or this is going to be a hit. And well, if you just stuck with.

[Will Friedle]

Movies that had American in the title, you were doing fine.

[Mina Suvari]

And then I put that in my writer, in my deal memo that only works American in the title.

[Danielle Fishel]

Did you have any reservations about working on something that was like, so obviously pushing the envelope at the time?

[Mina Suvari]

American Beauty.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, both of them.

[Rider Strong]

Both.

[Mina Suvari]

Oh, well. But American Pie, I was like, the sweet sweater sets. Yeah, you were right.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

I remember them asking me if I sang towards the end of the audition. I was like, yeah. I was in the choir for three years, you know, in middle school. They're like, great, that's good.

[Rider Strong]

I love that you become Kermit the Frog when you're doing your pressure of yourself.

[Mina Suvari]

I'm not really a singer, but I do remember going into the studio with Chris and like working on that song. And it's funny because I love it, but like, man, when I hear that song, I'm like. And then in Beauty, I was pretty much like living it to a certain extent, which I only talked about recently. So that was kind of like a no brainer. Yeah, no, definitely wasn't. Like, this is tawdry. I was like, oh, what's different?

[Danielle Fishel]

Are you writing a memoir? You said you've been writing about this a lot.

[Mina Suvari]

I did, yeah. It's called the Great Piece. It came out in 2021. And I finally was like, here's my side of the story. So I was. Because it. For a long time I was caught in this place of, I mean, especially back then too, like doing press for American Pie. And I was always trying to come up with like the one liner and make it sound great. And I finally was able to just, you know, reveal that again. It Saved me in a lot of respects. And I wasn't necessarily. I mean, I did a thing with Jason and his wife Jenny. It's called Dinner and a Movie. And I went on and we. With Alison Hannigan, and we watched American Pie and talked about it again. And I just didn't. I didn't. What is it, like, relate with them in the way that I think a lot of them were. I was just living very much in, like, a different space. So I missed out on a lot of that, like, camaraderie and friendship or just understanding what we were making. I would kind of, like, go in, do my job. Even on American Beauty, I remember thinking one day on set, I'm literally. I'm so grateful to have a job and everyone's so nice. Like, it was that simple, right? Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you mind sharing what was going on with you in your personal life? I have not read the memoir. I'm going to read it now.

[Mina Suvari]

But, yeah, just a lot of, you know, things that I think through childhood led me into feeling very insecure and abandoned. And I ended up, like, a lot of really dark relationships, especially by the time I was right before working on American Pie. And so I was living with someone who was a lot older than me, was, like, taking me to school.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, man.

[Mina Suvari]

Started doing a lot of, like, different drugs. And so playing someone like Heather was completely opposite to what I was living. It became very, like, abusive and very, like, sexually abusive. So I think that's why I had no, you know, qualms with relating to Angela. I was sort of used to. It's interesting, too, not to get, like, dark around Boy Meets World, but it's interesting, too, how I watch myself with, like, especially the second episode. I'm in season three, and there's just, like, a comfort around that, like, sexuality and showcase. I mean, some things I even worked on, I'm trying to remember right now, but my character, I have a lot of photos from that too. My character was a teenage prostitute, and I'm like, what is happening?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mina Suvari]

Around, like, you know, some of these things. Are it being kind of normal back then? Like, that's a whole other conversation. Especially, like, the 90s, like, being sexualized young.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

Y. Yeah. And I was like, oh, I was so easily ca. Those things. But it's interesting.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

I'm gonna read your memoir. I can't. Yeah, I can't wait to read your memoir.

[Mina Suvari]

It's. It's heavy. I appreciate it, but it's more about, like, it's Been really rewarding for not just me, but being able to help a lot of.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

People, you know, just by talking about these things. Because I think I felt like I needed to have it all wrapped up in a bow and be pro back then and for a long time after that. And I was sort of done playing that role.

[Danielle Fishel]

So.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, this is. Yeah. Because I feel like it does. It's a lot more of a service, just kind of being honest and talking about it and.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

Talking about how those things kind of can unfold.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Ryder and I have talked about how much, like those. That feeling in your 20s where you just feel like you're supposed to be good at all the things. Like, I'm finally here. This is the adulthood I have been waiting for and looking around and somehow feeling like everyone else knows how to do everything. Why do I not know how to do anything? And then you realize, like, no one. No one knew how to do anything. Everyone was figuring it out, but no one was talking about the fact that no one knew they were doing so.

[Rider Strong]

We didn't want to admit it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly.

[Rider Strong]

So now, imposter syndrome.

[Will Friedle]

But the adults, too. I mean, everybody. No, every week.

[Rider Strong]

The thing. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

The thing we talked about as. As. Especially as child actors, is you assume that all the adults around you know exactly what's going on, and you're following their lead.

[Danielle Fishel]

They say is right. And truth.

[Rider Strong]

Yep.

[Will Friedle]

And that's the way it's got to go. And then you. You become an adult, and you're like, I'm still figuring this. I don't know what the hell's going on. So it's. Yeah, you. It's very interesting to see how just the idea that somebody's older than you obviously means they have it together. It's like, no, that's not the case. So. Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

No, it's funny. I still feel like that sometimes. Yeah, of course.

[Will Friedle]

Everybody does.

[Mina Suvari]

And I'm like, they have it so together. But yes. I mean, it's kind of comforting in a way, hearing this, because I remember vividly younger thinking that I think. I think it was when you turned 18. I had this concept. Or was it 21? I had this concept that, like, when that happened, you just knew everything.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. Because you get a download.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. You get a magical pill that all of a sudden you know everything going on. Yeah, exactly.

[Mina Suvari]

And then that happened. And I was like, oh, gosh, how.

[Danielle Fishel]

Come I don't know anything?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, exactly. And I think, you know, strangely, I think it's actually probably worse for kids now because social media Makes it where everybody's got this incredible life. Look at all these pictures when really nobody does. It's all lies. The whole thing is lies. So it's just. Yeah. I couldn't imagine going through. I mean, what we all went through was tough enough, but now doing it where everybody is in the public eye, it just seems like it would be such a daunting task that I could.

[Mina Suvari]

I know. I'm sure you've gotten this question before, but, I mean, can you imagine working on the show with God, Ugh, God, be terrible.

[Will Friedle]

God, no, be awful. I couldn't imagine.

[Rider Strong]

Nope.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, there was something nice about. About that. Yeah. I mean, a lot of things. Not feeling that pressure. I mean, I also remember, like, being new to LA or just, like, new to the business, and, you know, you'd go to the grocery store and you're in the checkout aisle and there are the magazines. Right. Like, that was our information. And I remember thinking all of that was real, like somebody. And then it wasn't until, like, more experience in the industry and then being. There was one interview I gave that I swear it felt like they must have just mixed up the pages completely because I was reading it and, like, in bold. There were quotes. I was like, I never even said that. Like, not even close to saying, yeah. And I realized, yeah, they couldn't be something like, sex is like. It was something like, along the lines of, like, once you do it more, you get down. I was like, what?

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, oh, my gosh.

[Mina Suvari]

I wasn't even the room for these questions. But I. And then I realized, like, oh, none of that is true. But I had this concept that, like, if it was there and they were on the page and that was an interview, like, that was word for word what the person said. I just had no idea that it was constructed or manipulated in that sense.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right, right.

[Rider Strong]

So American Beauty is one of those. It's one of my favorite examples in my own life of seeing the difference in perception of a project while it's being made versus when it comes out. Because we were shooting Boys still and an old studio teacher came, who I worked with when I was, like, 11 or 12 and had become friends with my mom. And she came to the set to visit my mom, and we were hanging out and talking, and we were like, oh, so what are you working on? And she's like, ugh, this awful movie. It is so weird. I don't. And I don't know if she was the studio teacher or she was just there for a couple of days, but she was like, it's Kevin Spacey. And I don't know, it's like. It's trying to be funny, but it's just. It doesn't make any sense. And she likes, gave us the worst elevator pitch for this movie that we were like, wow. But it's like a big movie, and she's like, yeah, it's got big actors, but it's gonna be so bad. There's no. They're just gonna bear, you know, and we like. So then when the movie came out, it was like, that's the movie she was talking about.

[Mina Suvari]

I was like, wow.

[Rider Strong]

You know, so you just never know. Like, so, you know, here was a crew member, maybe only there for a day or two, but she was reading the script and, like, knew the movie and was like, this is a disaster. There's no way this is gonna go.

[Mina Suvari]

Oh, that is so fascinating and awesome.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, but it's true, right? I mean, half the time we don't know. Like, even when we're acting in a movie, we're like, is this going to be any good? Or is this going to have any cultural value? And then something like that happens. And so what was the transition for you? Like, because you have these two movies come out back to back, and before that, you had sort of been regular actor, just doing the job, and now you're suddenly a star.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, it was really weird. I remember. Well, I wasn't able to go to the premiere for American Pie. I was working on a film called Sugar and Spice at the time in. And we had.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love that movie, by the way. I auditioned for that movie. I wanted it so bad.

[Mina Suvari]

Amazing to have you in it.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love. I want. I read. I read that script, and I was like, this is great.

[Mina Suvari]

It was originally. Do you remember it was originally called Sugar and Spice and Semi Automatic.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, exactly.

[Mina Suvari]

Like, why'd you change the title? But I mean, that was awesome, too. Working with Francine McDougall, female director. That was great. But I remember we had a football scene, and so there were a lot of extras because AI didn't exist. Yeah, exactly. There were real people there. And I started hearing people yelling, heather, choir chick. And I was like, oh, geez, what's going on? You know? And then I remember people asking me for a photo with me, and I was like, this is so weird. And it made me feel. It just was really strange, and it made me feel uncomfortable because I felt like I'm no, I'm no better, like, different than you. And so that was kind of like the Beginnings of it. And that was, that was in the summer, late summer. I remember coming back to LA after that and going to the American Beauty premiere and then everybody kind of saying, congratulations, like, this is amazing. And I just remember not being able to understand that or digest it because again, I just, just, I was like, thank you. Like, I just didn't what that meant, you know, and people were trying to kind of like, get my attention into that. Like, this is so great. Congratulations. And I was like, cool, thanks. You know, happy to be a part of it. And yeah, then it kind of became, I guess, the norm of like, doing photo shoots and press and.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Mina Suvari]

Traveling and, and things like that. I do remember, though, having kind of like a midlife crisis in my early 20s after that because I hadn't gone to college and there were a lot of things. Like, you know, when I was younger, I wanted to be an architect. I chose medical research for my career day at school. I never thought of, like, acting. And so I, I, I was like in this phase of, you know, oh, I, I can go to ucla. I looked into it. They were going to let me go, like, years as an extension student, but then I'd have full time, the last two. And I kind of just chose at that moment that I chose, I guess, my career because I felt like I could be in any, you know, sitting to learn. I didn't have to necessarily be there. But yeah, it was like a hard time for me because I kind of felt like I didn't have an identity because I was. Yeah, I remember sort of at that moment feeling like there's the, the, there's this Mina and then there's like the real Mina.

[Rider Strong]

Right.

[Mina Suvari]

And I had to kind of like come to terms with that or, or learn how to navigate that because everything was, it just was very strange for me to be, like, recognized and because I never got into this industry for that reason. So weird.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you remember any specific directing or working with Alan Ball for American Beauty? Like, do you, do you remember that experience?

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, I mean, I remember working with everyone. I remember working a lot with Sam and having a lot of rehearsal, us even working on scenes that didn't make it into the film. I felt, I felt like I was being very, I was given this really great gift and sort of spoiled in a sense because we did so much rehearsal and it was so helpful. Really awesome. I mean, this sort of also feels like a time, for the most part, gone. I mean, I've gotten films where it's like, you're just so in and out, and you don't have that process anymore. And so I'm really grateful that I. That I had that then. But, yeah, I just. I remember because, again, I. I didn't, like, hang out with people then.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Mina Suvari]

Like, so much in survival mode and, like, surviving the horror of, like, my real life. That. And I. And I think it also was coming from a place of just never feeling good enough. So I just do my work and, like, disappear. I was always, like, wanting to kind of, like, be back here and. And. But when I was there, I do remember just feeling so cared for by them, particularly because, you know, and it was so necessary. But. Yeah. Yeah, it was. There was a lot of really wonderful things, a lot of fun things, but sort of. It just all kind of feels like a. I don't know, it was like, so much happening that I. I needed to eventually learn how to, like, pick up on.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah. I talked about even. Like, there were so many moments where I felt like my life was happening for me, and I. It took me a while to, like, catch up to that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Geez.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you think it's a movie that could be made now in 2025?

[Mina Suvari]

That's a great question. I mean, I don't see why not. I feel like that's what's so wonderful about the film is that, I mean, there's certain topic and subject matter that I feel like is still continuous, very present.

[Rider Strong]

The.

[Mina Suvari]

Yes and no.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

Yes and no. Depends on, you know, what exactly I think you're analyzing, because it also was, I think, a big part of it. A certain place in time. There's a certain. There's a certain amount of subject matter that, yes, I think could. And then there's a certain subject matter that I think it was a perfect showcase and conversation around, like, what is continuously hidden. But, like, that still exists too, so.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I'm just curious because you've had such an interesting career and some of the projects are so different from each other, is there one that you're really proud of? I mean, I know you're probably proud of a lot of them, but is there one that really stands out for you?

[Mina Suvari]

Gosh, I'm so bad with these questions because, like, they mean something to me in a different way. I. I mean, yes, and I'm proud of all of it, but it all. It's different for me because as I've gotten older, I've felt more and become more connected to all of it, and that's really changed it for me. I think a lot about. Well, I have things that I've done that haven't come out yet. I did a film called Vampires of the Velvet Lounge where it was just a lot of fun, and that's been in post. I did a film called all you need is Blood and that was really, really cool and exciting. I think that one's on Kino. Kino movies, I mean, they've all been, like, different for me. I just finished a project called Death of a Brewer. It's based on a book called Beer Money and I got to play a woman of temperance and it's period. And I've never done anything like that. That's cool. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So they're all.

[Mina Suvari]

And our, Our crew was like. I just didn't want to leave. Everyone was so lovely and our cast and. Yeah. So it's, It's. It depends on, like, what it is. I mean, I think about the. The place that I've been in and being able to appreciate it. I feel like a lot of that came for me a bit later.

[Rider Strong]

Of course. Of course. That's Water Spot line. It's still.

[Mina Suvari]

I mean, that to me, that I was so happy seeing that as, like, those, like, going down. And I didn't know if they'd list anything of, like, the commercials, but it's. It's literally like the first thing on my IMDb. It's so awesome. To me, that's like, really, really beautiful and really special. I love that we ask a lot.

[Danielle Fishel]

Of our guests this question. Were there any roles you auditioned for and almost got that still haunt you? Like, the minute you mentioned sugar and Spice for me, and I was like, is there anything you auditioned for?

[Mina Suvari]

Yes. You're gonna put me on the hot seat, Tell the story. Yes. I, I mean, the, the one that I auditioned for several times I tested for and was communicated to that it would be mine was Spider Man.

[Will Friedle]

Oh. And they gave it to Toby Maguire.

[Danielle Fishel]

How did he do that to you?

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah. But then, you know, but again, like, I think that's. That's what, like, allows for so much growth and of strength in this industry is like. I mean, I've even had these moments with. Now I've been working more in, like, development, like, pitching and. And it's like people can kind of come at you a certain way, like, yeah. And you're like, yeah. And they're like, no, get out of here. But I thought.

[Rider Strong]

I thought we were just going to go make something. Yes.

[Mina Suvari]

I think. I mean, those are. Those are the moments that, like, we all have. I mean, you Talked about, like, with sugar and spice too. It's like those are the moments that you have, and then you're just like, yeah, but you know what? Like, like I still see this and I still love this. And it's not. And you know, it allows you, I think, to build like new muscles that are so important because. Not like that. All right. Exactly. It's not just like, here you go, here you go.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, you want this?

[Mina Suvari]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

You gotta really work for it, you know, and, And I. And it, it. I'm grateful for that because it allows me to just have a completely new perspective that I really str. Try to stay neutral with. Like, it just wasn't meant in some way. You know, there's others, other things that. And I'm, I'm, you know, and you're able to see that, like, in the, in the long run, like, oh, well, life brought me here and I was needed here versus there.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Rider Strong]

In this industry. It's so hard compared to like almost anything else, though, in that those opportunities, when they're presented to you are literally life changing. Right. Like, in terms of like, I mean, when you audition for a TV show, you network for a show, they make you sign a six year contract and you're literally able to see, oh, this could be how much money I'm making. This could be. And something like Spider man. Like. Yeah, like, that's a three picture thing. I mean, that's like. And so it's so hard in the moment. Cause you're like, I don't want to invest too much in this. But you can't help it because it's like, that would change my life in a way that probably you want at that moment. You know, it's really hard to see how to have any sense of reality, you know, Especially when you're younger.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. I think a lot, like, for me now because I have a son and he's four and a half. Aww. And so many times, like, if I even try to go to that place, then I look back and I understand. Like, but if this didn't happen. Happen and that didn't happen. Yeah, happen. Like, I never would have had my son right in. In the way that I do. I wouldn't, you know, life would have kind of maybe taken me over here. I wouldn't have met that person. So. Yeah, I always try to, like, rein it in. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

We're here for a reason. We're here for a reason. Yeah, exactly.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah. And then like, and we're here as ourselves individual for that reason, you know, And I think that's sort of like what we were touching upon earlier, like, feeling like, oh, I have to be 20 and, like, be perfect and know it all, like, have that. And that's. I mean, it's still happening. I think even when you brought up social media, like, even to a worser extent, we're really missing that. We're all individual in adding our own thing to it. We don't have to be this, like, yeah, everything. Not everyone has to be that. So I find a lot of, like, comfort in. In that and allowing myself to. To feel that way and, you know, just remember that it's like, this is what I have to bring to it versus someone else. And if that's meant, you know, then that's great. And I've always tried to look for anything that I can learn in my own life through the work that I do, because I've seen this weird, like, symmetry between personal growth that I've needed and then the type of project that might come my way. We try to stay really open to that and work with it.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Rider Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Rider Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Rider Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

High Key.

[Will Friedle]

Listen to High Key, a new weekly podcast. You better listen. That's literally the definition of being an Aries moon. Just one little spicy off comment. That's all it takes. Everyone loves me at the cancer and then the Aries comes out and they said, who the is that?

[Rider Strong]

No, you.

[Will Friedle]

You're gonna come for me being an Aries and you have a sag Moon. Get out of here. But I'm a Capricorn Rising, so that honestly balances it out and makes me more likable. Okay, that is your Capricorn talking. Listen to High key on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. Ed Helms here. And hi, I'm Kal Penn, and we're the hosts of Irsay, The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Jenny Garth, host of the iHeart podcast. I choose me to discuss the new Audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen classic Pride and Prejudice. This is not a trick question. There's no wrong answer. What role winner I play.

[Mina Suvari]

You know what? I can see you as Mr. Darcy. You got a little Colin Firth.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that, but are you sure I'm not the dad? I'm not Mr. Bennet. Here, listen to Earsay the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts. And Doug, here we have the Limu Emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual.

[Rider Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Rider Strong]

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[Mina Suvari]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

I have to talk to you about American Pie 5, the funeral. Are you going to be in it? Is this real? Who's dead?

[Mina Suvari]

This is so wild because everyone's been asking about it. I think it would be awesome. Even, like, when I saw Jason and Jenny and Michelle, like, we don't really know what's going on. Like, there's nothing. There's nothing official. But from. If I can safely say, from what I know, fans have, like, I think on YouTube, they've even created trailers for this. I believe that this is a huge admirer of the film and franchise who has, like, written this script. So there's, like, things lingering, but there's nothing official that I know of. I think it's a great idea. I think it would have to be something like that along, along those lines. And it'd be awesome to come back. I think everybody's, like, really wanting it, but I don't know. I don't.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right, you don't. There's no official word. You have worked consistently throughout your entire career. How did you avoid burnout?

[Mina Suvari]

Oh, I did burn out. Okay.

[Will Friedle]

Didn't avoid it. Red headline, head first into it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Rider Strong]

Okay.

[Mina Suvari]

I, I, Yeah, no, I have. I mean, it depends on, like, what you mean by burnout. I mean, I talk about a lot of, like, just disconnection and drug use, especially, like, early on. And then I got married very young. I was married at, like, right after American Beauty and sort of repeated this strange generational trauma pattern and that out. But, yeah, so again, I was, like, living as a. As like twice my age when I was 20, from, like, 25. And yeah, I mean, I've definitely been. I like to say that I've lived many lives.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

And then somehow I came out of it. I think I, I've been able to really navigate by being blessed with, you know, the right people around me at the right time. And, and, yeah, I mean, just having. I, I talk a lot about how I feel like being in this industry, being an actor, being able to perform this art, really saved my life to a certain extent because it allowed me to process a lot of things that were so necessary.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

But, yeah, I mean, it hasn't been easy at times. And, you know, I just kind of keep. I have a lot of friends that are not in the industry. Yeah. So I'm able to ground myself through that.

[Will Friedle]

And.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah. Just somehow. Somehow. I mean, listen, 30 years is a long time, and I feel grateful that I'm even still alive, like certain moments. But, But I'm, I am, I'm very happy now because of, of, like, throughout all that process, it's just given me really the perspective that I want to have. And so I feel really good with all the things that I'm able to move forward with, because just like I said, I finished that film Death of a Brewer, and it was just so. It was like everything that I would have ever wanted it to be. But I think a lot of that came from me allowing myself to be that person and, and, and feel connected to everyone. And it was awesome because it was just an independent film that we were making. But again, our cast and especially our crew, it's beautiful when it lines up like that. We are part of this thing, and it's not about, like, I don't know, any weird, like, hierarchy or.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. Or ego.

[Mina Suvari]

Your ego that you see all the time. And, and in those moments, I realized, like, this is why I do what I did.

[Danielle Fishel]

You mentioned your son. If your son wanted to become an actor, would you, would you let it?

[Mina Suvari]

That's such a great question. I don't, I don't have him out there. He has no idea what I do. He just said that I go and I work. And now he's started to say, like, I want to come work too. What a town. But I've, I mean, just personally, this is like, how we do things. Everybody does it differently. But I really, I really care a lot about giving him the opportunity to.

[Danielle Fishel]

Be.

[Mina Suvari]

Who he is and not Savari's son. I want him to, you know, just develop, like, the life that he wants and the interests that he wants and not have it be through me at this age. So, yeah, we'll see. I mean, you know, I, I know that I, I would love him to, like, set it up a bit differently. Like, if I had gone to college or have a degree or some sort of, like, thing to fall back on, I, I, I would want to navigate it probably a bit smarter than I did, because I think for me it was sort of, I'm not gonna lie. Like, it felt many times like this is all I know how to do.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah. I, I, yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

And have to figure that out, because that's just what I do. And so if I could allow him to just feel a bit more choice in the matter, then that would be great. But, but I remember working with, I did a film called Don't Tell a Soul with Jack Grazer, and I was talking to who's awesome and I was talking to his mom on the set. And I remember and getting to know her. And I remember reading an article, article that she was talking about his child acting and fame and all of this stuff and the way that she presented it to him, I'm not quoting it perfectly word for word, but she was trying to communicate to him that she was supportive of him wanting to do these things. But just remember that it should always be fun.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

And that the moment that it's not fun, you know, we should, we should readdress that. And I just thought that that was such a great approach to it because it's so, it's so important for that to be part of it, I believe. And not, you know, I remember feeling like, again, I had to get a job at, like, 14 or 15 to, like, support my family or just the right stresses of that. So, yeah, I would want to just kind of be smart about things or. And pay attention and create options or choice for him. But we'll see.

[Danielle Fishel]

Mina, will you please tell us the name of your book one more time where we can get it? Tell us about some of the projects you have coming up. Okay. You already ordered it. Gosh, you're fast.

[Mina Suvari]

It's called the Great Piece. I. I had. I was. I talk about it in the book, but I was moving and I had everything. I had a storage unit. And I was like, oh, I want to get rid of this storage unit unit. I don't need it anymore. And I had these bins where I kept a lot of. I have the photos. I got to go through these. The photo. And I had my diary. And I had this binder. It was like a red. You know, those old school binders, three ring binder. And I had. I had a typewriter, so I typed up like 50, 60 loose leaf pages. And a lot of it was like poems. And that again, was like an outlet for me to communicate or a lot of what I was or process what I was experiencing. And I called it the Great Piece. And so when I found it, I had this moment of thinking, like, maybe I can publish my poetry book. Or I was gonna option it as like a series idea. I thought, maybe I can get this out and I can. It can be cathartic for me, but not. Not fully doing it. And then I had a friend sit with me and he read some of it and he said, you should publish this as a memoir. And I remember thinking, like, what? Like, first of all, not even like, at that age to do that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Mina Suvari]

But I thought about it and I thought, you know what? If I'm gonna. If I'm gonna share this at all, then I'll share it, you know, 150%. And so. So I titled it the. The Great Page piece as well.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love it. And then when are some of the movies coming out that you. You said you had one in post. I can't wait to see these. Where can we see them?

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, I don't know where yet. I just know that, well, Vampires of the Velvet Lounge, they were. This is a lot of effects. Okay, so I believe those were just finished. And I'm not quite sure. I did called the Ick with Joseph Kahn that we were in theaters. There's a very limited release here a couple months ago. And Yeah, I don't know like, all of where to see them.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. But we'll keep an eye out.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Are you on social media? Can, can people follow you?

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, I just, I have just my name. Mina Savari. On Instagram, when you talked about one of those burnout moments, I had this moment where I deleted my face Facebook. I deleted my Twitter. I'm done with social media. And then I was going to delete Instagram, but I forgot my password.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right, you're stuck.

[Mina Suvari]

And then one of my reps was like, can you just keep one? Like it's kind of something. And I was like, okay. But I, I definitely was like, I can't take it anymore. But, yeah, I'm on Instagram. And, and I. And I like it. I, I, I, I like to focus on the aspect of how it, like, gives us the opportunity to really share, like, what we're interested in.

[Rider Strong]

Yes.

[Mina Suvari]

Thing else being created. So. So I'm on there.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, great. Mina, thank you so much for spending your time with us. We have been so excited about the possibility of interviewing you since the moment you popped on our screen when we were in season two of our recap. And so thank you for finding the time to be with us. We have really enjoyed this conversation. You are truly lovely, and it's been a really beautiful conversation.

[Mina Suvari]

Thank you for having me. And thanks for just thinking of me and making this possible. Waiting for me to get on. That's like a scheduling thing. But I really appreciate it. It's so nice. It's so special. Like, this is what it's about.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, agreed. Thank you for being with us.

[Rider Strong]

Great to see you.

[Mina Suvari]

And I'll find those photos.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, please send us the photos.

[Danielle Fishel]

You have our email address. And. Yeah, we're going to read the book. Maybe it'll. Maybe I'll switch it out for my next book club.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Mina Suvari]

Thank you, Mina. It was good to see you. All right, take care. Bye, guys. Bye.

[Will Friedle]

Wow, man, I can't. I really can't wait to read that.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. So ordered it up.

[Danielle Fishel]

Now I have a crush on her.

[Rider Strong]

Right?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, she wouldn't. She wouldn't recognize it anyway.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, she wouldn't.

[Will Friedle]

Because when Ryder had a crush back in the day, everybody knew Ryder had a crush.

[Mina Suvari]

Yeah, she knew.

[Rider Strong]

She just forgot.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, she didn't forget. Maybe she did.

[Rider Strong]

She was playing it cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

Cool.

[Will Friedle]

Now, that's right.

[Rider Strong]

Exactly.

[Danielle Fishel]

That makes sense. Thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram Pod Meets World show. You can send us your messages podmeetsworldshowmail.com and we've got merch.

[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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