Pod Meets Twirl'd: DWTS 3404

Summary

Pod Meets World – "Pod Meets Twirl’d: DWTS 3404"

Release Date: October 11, 2025
Hosts: Danielle Fishel, Will Friedle, Rider Strong
Podcast: Pod Meets World (iHeartPodcasts)

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Overview

In this special "Pod Meets Twirl'd" mini-series, the “Pod Meets World” hosts—Danielle, Will, and Rider—recap the latest episode of Dancing with the Stars (Season 34, Episode 4 aka "Disney Night"). Danielle Fishel is a contestant this season, while Will Friedle and Rider Strong support her by recapping the show, even as admitted dance amateurs. The trio discuss behind-the-scenes insights, scores, standout performances, and the nerve-wracking elimination process, all with their signature humor and camaraderie.

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Main Discussion Points & Key Insights

1. Danielle’s Dancing with the Stars Journey & Disney Night Anxiety

• The episode begins with Danielle and Will admitting exhaustion, and Danielle sharing a funny, stressful story about a bear eating pumpkins at her parents’ house.
  [04:09]
• Both Will and Danielle admit to intense nerves watching Dancing with the Stars, especially with Danielle (their best friend) as a contestant this season.
  • Danielle reveals she was in the dreaded “bottom three” this week:
    • "Even Danielle texted last night and said I was in the bottom three. That will never happen to me again." – Will Friedle [05:14]
• Discussion about confusion over the "bottom three"—is it really reflective of votes or just a dramatic device by the show?
  • Podcast producer Tara clarifies: it’s not always the three with the fewest votes; sometimes the show picks any three to add drama.
    [05:26–06:14]

Notable Quote

"I don't know if I have the bandwidth for this... last night was so anxious and nervous, and it was the worst."
– Danielle Fishel [04:35]

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2. Call to Action: Vote for Danielle!

• The crew encourages listeners and “Boy Meets World” fans to vote for Danielle, emphasizing that audience votes matter more than ever.
• They discuss possible disadvantages to dancing earlier in the night, as later dancers often receive higher scores.

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3. The Disney Night Experience: Production, Stories, and Critique

• Will and Rider express discomfort with the "Disney magic" overdose—finding the show a bit scripted and overly sentimental.
• Both point out the themes and production design can sometimes overshadow the actual dancing.
• They reminisce humorously about the Disneyland rides and movies featured during the night, especially "Cars" (with a hilarious discussion about the anthropomorphic cars).
  [15:29–16:32]

Notable Quote

"All these things that bring joy, like, didn't do it for me."
– Will Friedle [07:54]

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4. Dance-by-Dance Recap & Judging Debates

Dylan and Daniella – Quickstep ("Life is a Highway")

[15:20–17:32]

• Both Danielle and Will praise Dylan’s growth and hard work, noting his likability and natural improvement over episodes.
• Scores were 7, 8, 8, though hosts felt this was a bit low and that Carrie Ann Inaba (judge) was "stingy with the paddle."

Danielle and Pasha – Quickstep ("I Wanna Be Like You" from Jungle Book)

[18:09–22:50]

• Will and Danielle candidly analyze her performance—good energy but some minor missteps.
• Both express frustration at what they perceive as harsh scoring: "How she hasn't gotten an 8 yet, I don't think is fair." [20:11]
• Discussion about Danielle being tough on herself and the need to “let go” for a breakthrough performance, especially with Mr. Feeny (Bill Daniels) scheduled to be in the audience next week.

Notable Quote

"Last night she could have gotten an 8 on energy and stage presence alone."
– Danielle Fishel [20:12]

Will’s “History of Dance” Segment

[22:58–24:44]

• Will (jokingly “sponsored” by Lamborghini) gives a surprisingly informative and comic explanation of the Quickstep’s origins, with banter about 1920s dances and Star Wars metaphors.

Other Highlights

• Scott Hoyne and Riley Arnold: Will notes they’re growing on him ("I really like him now") [27:29]. Both praise technical improvement and chemistry, while pointing out a minor arm tangle during the Salsa to "Bop to the Top."
• Alex and Val (Maleficent waltz): Declared “Dance of the Night” by both hosts for its storytelling and theatricality. Both thought it deserved a nine, proving how competition is stiff and sometimes order of performances affects scores.
  • “I loved this. This was dance of the night for me.” – Danielle Fishel [28:41]
• Star Wars Cantina Quickstep: Universally panned by Will and Danielle as "the longest three minutes of my life." [32:05]
• Mouse Makeup: Will found the hyperrealistic Disney character makeup “too much” and even “uncomfortable” [29:54, 35:44].
• Andy Richter (Ratatouille Waltz): Hosts see him as the fun, likable non-contender being carried along by the popular vote, expecting he’ll likely go next week [36:20].
• Robert Irwin (“Zootopia” dance): Once an early favorite, the hosts now see him “falling off a little bit” [38:05], opening the door for new frontrunners.

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5. Judging & Elimination Drama

• Scoring Head-Scratchers:
  • Several moments where the hosts strongly disagree with judges’ scores, especially when Danielle gets 7s and other, less impressive performances obtain higher marks.
  • Will wonders if judges compensate based on perceived popular vote or have personal favorites, suggesting a possible interplay between judges’ and viewers’ votes [33:42–34:27].

Notable Quote

"How that's two eights and Danielle's three sevens... Danielle was so much more enjoyable to watch."
– Danielle Fishel [34:39]

• Elimination:
  • Hilaria and Gleb are eliminated, which Will and Danielle saw coming.
  • They discuss the tension of Danielle being shown in the "bottom three," the psychological toll, and audience manipulation for ongoing engagement.

Notable Quote

"They're pulling on our heartstrings. They're manipulating us. They're making sure that we get out and vote and keep supporting our favorites."
– Will Friedle [55:04]

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6. "Strong Incentive" Game: What Would It Take for Rider to Go On DWTS?

[57:47–61:07]

• Danielle and Will pitch increasingly outrageous incentives (money, classic memorabilia, rare Magic: The Gathering cards) to bribe Rider onto DWTS. Despite temptations, especially a mint Black Lotus Magic card worth $600K, Rider refuses, emphasizing his discomfort with public dancing over any material prize.
• Will and Danielle reflect on their own dancing abilities and self-perceptions.

Notable & Funny Quotes

"I love you, my magic cards, but you just... no."
– Rider Strong [61:07]

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Standout Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Fun Opener:
  "Awoken this morning by hearing my parents going, oh my God, downstairs. Because a giant bear was on our deck looking in our door."
  – Danielle Fishel [03:54]

• On Hyping Up Audience Votes:
  "This is a call to everybody out there listening who is a fan of Danielle Fishel and thinks she deserves to stay on the show and keep learning how to ballroom dance. Vote for her."
  – Will Friedle [06:44]

• Unfiltered Judging Commentary:
  "There's nothing worse than spending a night with a woman who's stingy with the paddle."
  – Danielle Fishel [17:51]

• On Quickstep History:
  "I'm just picking a company, a small—just trying to give them a break. Yeah, they need your help."
  – Danielle Fishel (Jokingly about Lamborghini) [23:44]

• Amusing Banter on Dancing Fears:
  "I'm like, I don't know if I have the bandwidth for this... last night was so anxious and nervous, and it was the worst."
  – Danielle Fishel [04:35]
  "If you vote for the worst dancer, he goes home. If you vote for your favorite dancer, he stays."
  – Jensen (as paraphrased by Danielle) [36:42]
  "Get this guy a robe, you're so hard on yourself, man."
  – Will Friedle (about dancing embarrassment) [62:49]

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• [03:14] – Launch into DWTS Recap: "Welcome to Pod Meets Twirl'd..."
• [04:35] – Discussion of Disney Night, nervousness, bottom three anxiety
• [06:44] – Call to action: Vote for Danielle
• [15:20–24:44] – Detailed breakdown: Dylan/Daniella and Danielle/Pasha performances, Will’s “History of Dance”
• [28:41] – Alex & Val's Maleficent Waltz: Declared Dance of the Night
• [33:09–34:48] – Judging politics & scoring fairness
• [38:04–39:47] – Robert Irwin losing momentum
• [54:22] – Mixed reviews: Aladdin/Jazz dance as a flat ending
• [55:02] – Elimination round tensions
• [57:47–62:01] – Strong Incentive: What would it take for Rider to go on DWTS? Magic cards debate

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Final Thoughts

The episode offers an entertaining, revealing look into “Disney Night” on Dancing with the Stars, blending the perspective of a cast member (Danielle) with supportive (but critical) friends. While championing Danielle’s journey, the trio dissect everything from production choices and performer progress to scoring inconsistencies and the emotional roller coaster of reality competition TV—with plenty of laughs along the way.

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For fans of “Boy Meets World” and DWTS alike, this recap is an engaging, heartfelt listen—full of banter, inside jokes, and a sincere look behind the scenes of competitive dancing on primetime TV.

Transcript

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[Will Friedle]

Welcome to Pod Meets Twirl the Dancing with the Stars recap. Hosted by two guys who can't dance, don't want to dance, and have now seen exactly four episodes of Dancing with the Stars. But since our best friend Danielle has joined the cast for season 34, we're going all in. We are Will Friedle and Ryder Strong, AKA the two dudes standing next to Topanga, AKA Danielle Fishel's backup, AKA the Danettes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Hello, Will Danyet.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hello, Ryder. Danyette. How are you?

[Will Friedle]

I'm pretty exhausted. Not gonna lie.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm exhausted. I have no idea what's going on.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, yeah. There's a lot happening. You're back east right now.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm back east on arguably the squeakiest chair. Perfect. That has ever been podcasted in professional podcasting. Awoken this morning by hearing my parents going, oh, my God. Downstairs. Because a giant bear was on our deck looking in our door.

[Podcast Producer/Editor Tara]

Really?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep.

[Will Friedle]

That's so cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

I guess they have. I. I didn't see it by the time I. I was like, ah, they're fine.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

But appare. He ate our pumpkins because my dad likes to decorate for Halloween. So he came in and ate the pumpkins and was on our door, and that was it.

[Will Friedle]

That's so cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love sighting back east, my friend. Right.

[Will Friedle]

Still around. I love it. Yeah. All right. Shall we get right into Disney night on Dancing with the Stars?

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't know if I have the bandwidth for this. Last night was so. I was, like, so anxious and nervous, and it was the worst. I don't know if I'm going to be able to make it to the end of this series. I'll be honest with you.

[Will Friedle]

What was making you nervous but the.

[Danielle Fishel]

Fact that Danielle was in the bottom three and then I don't. I don't know if she's going home now. That's the other thing I was gonna ask. I don't know if anybody knows Danielle or can get in touch with somebody in her management, but I'd love to get a quote from her about what it feels like to be up there, you know, thinking you might go home because there was a shot that she could go home last night the crap out of me.

[Will Friedle]

But Alex kept asking. She's like, does that mean she's in the bottom three? And I was like, no.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Very clearly state no.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

They say not necessarily the bottom three.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, they said the bottom three. Not necessarily in any order is what they said. Even Danielle texted last night and said I was in the bottom three. That will never happen to me again.

[Will Friedle]

Tara, can you. Can you weigh in on this? Yes. The three people standing on the stage are the lowest three votes, but it.

[Commercial Announcer]

Doesn'T mean votes wise. She is in the bottom three. That used to be previously on Dancing with the Stars. Where they used to be an actual bottom three, bottom two elimination. The.

[Will Friedle]

They don't do that.

[Commercial Announcer]

So there could be someone else who was safe, who had lower scores all around than Danielle.

[Danielle Fishel]

Are you sure about this?

[Will Friedle]

Yes. Because last was my interpretation, too.

[Commercial Announcer]

Last night. I was actually asked posh myself because.

[Podcast Producer/Editor Tara]

I was so confused by it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Cause Danielle texted me last night and said bottom three, never again.

[Will Friedle]

Well, she has.

[Commercial Announcer]

She doesn't want to be there ever again, but.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right, but. So you're saying that she could have had the top scores of the night and still ended up on that stage with the other two couples?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I think so. See, I think they could.

[Podcast Producer/Editor Tara]

They.

[Will Friedle]

They're playing mind games with this, man.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know they're playing mind games, but they also always seem to be the three couples you think they're going to be or close to it. She's scoring based on the scoring.

[Will Friedle]

But to be fair, she may. She is one of the lower scorers as far as the judges go.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's what I'm saying.

[Will Friedle]

You just look at, you know, the. The bottom of, like, last night's scores.

[Danielle Fishel]

She was at the bottom three.

[Will Friedle]

So this is a call to everybody out there listening who is a fan of Danielle Fishel and thinks she deserves to stay on the show and keep learning how to ballroom dance.

[Danielle Fishel]

Vote for her.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, get out and vote.

[Danielle Fishel]

We did. We all voted. My mom, my dad, everybody. We all voted last night.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. So I think it's, you know, I think it's a. It's a call to arms. We must get our voting out also.

[Danielle Fishel]

Also shows the. The difference in. In going first, like being one of the first couples. I. I still think is a huge detriment to whoever's dancing now. We can get into it. Dylan kind of broke that mold a.

[Will Friedle]

Little bit last night. He was great.

[Danielle Fishel]

I. So when I. Well, we'll get to it. We'll get. When we get to Danielle, we'll get to it. So.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. All right, all right, all right. So we started with the big birthday cake on stage and Disney characters everywhere, and all I could think about is the poor Lumiere guy who had to keep his arms up, otherwise he'd burn the place down.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, God. But he just had to stand there.

[Will Friedle]

I'm like, oh, my God, the poor guy. I, like, my arms started hurting for him, and I'm like, he can't put those down. He's like, he might take somebody's face off.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. This is one of the curses when you're around the Beast.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Yeah. The whole Disney thing, I. It was. It was a little much for me, I have to say. Like, you know, we're applauding Disney characters appearing. I'm like, really?

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

This we're going to do so perfectly, Ryder.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, all these things that bring joy, like, didn't do it for me.

[Will Friedle]

You know what? It just felt. It felt a little pandering to me. It was like, what is.

[Danielle Fishel]

Is Disney?

[Will Friedle]

What? You know, and then everybody had the same story about going to Disneyland. It was like, by the third person being like, I came here when I was a kid. Now I come here with my kids, and it's fun.

[Danielle Fishel]

I was like, if they just cut to somebody who's like, no, I never come here. It's ridiculously expensive. Have you seen the lines?

[Will Friedle]

I mean, that's part of. You know, it's. It's. Last night was when I was. You know, because getting into this show and watching it, you know, it's been a trip for me because I don't watch same shows like this that often. And, like, that was when I was like, come on, let's do some real stuff. Because it all felt so scripted and sort of planned and, like, all the clips of Disney, you know, I prefer seeing them struggling in the studio, like, trying to. To learn how to dance. Like, I feel like that's the. That's the re. Those are the real moments that I want to see. And instead, the show just kind of started. Like, last week's Tik Tok commercial started to feel like a big Disneyland commercial. And I was, yeah, we all love Disneyland. I get it. Yes, great. We don't have to keep hitting this over the head over and over again, whatever on Disney. All right?

[Danielle Fishel]

But, oh, God, I did get on the show second.

[Will Friedle]

We never. The second week in a row where they announced that they are Breaking records on voting.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. 40 million, I think they said, is amazing.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, and that speaks to, you know, the star power of people like Danielle on this show. And I agree. I think, you know, having not seen any other season, I'm. I'm assuming this is a great season. This is a really.

[Danielle Fishel]

I have a question for you. Do you think it's closer to. To 40 million people voting once, or do you think it's closer to 2 million people voting 20 times?

[Will Friedle]

I have no idea. You'd have to check the ratings of the actual show.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right, Right. Because I don't think no ratings on any TV show are big anymore. Like, the biggest thing you get is 2, 3, 4, 5.

[Will Friedle]

So everybody's voting 10 times.

[Danielle Fishel]

Basically, that's what I'm. Or 20. You get. You get 10 texting and 10. So it's like, are 2 million people voting 20 times or 5 million people? I can't do the math, but you know what I mean? Like, uh, I'm curious.

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[Danielle Fishel]

And hi, I'm Cal Penn and the.

[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

You know what? I can see you as Mr. Darcy. You got a little Colin Firth.

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[Will Friedle]

All right, let's get into the dances.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

Dylan and Daniella up first. Always seems like the worst position to go in. Yeah, but these two, I thought they did great.

[Danielle Fishel]

They killed it.

[Will Friedle]

They killed it.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't understand why he was doing cars while dressed like Woody from a Toy Story. That made no sense to me. I know, but it made. That made no sense to me.

[Will Friedle]

But I got to say, first of all, let's talk Disneyland for a second. Cars ride. Wonderful ride.

[Danielle Fishel]

Awesome.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, just fantastic. I am not a fan of the cars movies. It's like a huge miss for me when it comes to Pixar.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, the first one was great.

[Will Friedle]

Really? It makes sense to you that cars sit in an audience to watch other cars go in circles?

[Danielle Fishel]

That.

[Will Friedle]

Of course it does. Who's riding them? Who's inside the cars? It doesn't make any sense. What's the point of these cars?

[Podcast Producer/Editor Tara]

It's.

[Danielle Fishel]

Isn't that the equivalent of people standing around watching people race without cars? They're watching people run around a track. Isn't that track and field?

[Will Friedle]

You know what?

[Danielle Fishel]

Good point. Good point.

[Will Friedle]

I will concede that point. Good, sir. But it's still just like, why do they need gas? What is happening? I just don't know why these things exist. My brain just melted the first time I saw cars. I don't understand it. Anyway, But a lovely ride at Disneyland, way more fun than I expected.

[Danielle Fishel]

Great ride.

[Will Friedle]

Hating the movie.

[Danielle Fishel]

The whole world over there. The cars world over there, is a cool world to run around in.

[Will Friedle]

And I'm just. You know, I've said it since the beginning. I think Daniella is the best dancer in this entire Thing. She's amazing. And I just love Dylan. I love him.

[Danielle Fishel]

You love him.

[Will Friedle]

I'm like, I want to be. I want to be on a road trip with him after this. I'm like, thank you. Like, I'm not going to rock climb, but I'll watch you. And, you know, we came on traitors. Just a cool dude.

[Danielle Fishel]

He's so likable. He's just like, this guy. Yeah. He's smiling the whole time, and the smile's fully genuine.

[Will Friedle]

And working hard. Like, he's learning how to dance. He's getting better. Great. Yeah. This is. He's, like, having the journey that. Exactly what you're supposed to on this show. You know what I mean? Like, a guy who maybe is physically active but has never danced, and you're watching him go through this journey. It's wonderful. So they did the quick step to Life is the Highway. Fun song. I thought it was pretty fantastic. Me too. Me too.

[Danielle Fishel]

Strong start. Really strong start to the night.

[Will Friedle]

No notes. It was interesting. Derek commented on his head, like, not snapping enough, and I thought, like, well, that's a good note. It's a good call. They gave him 7, 8, and 8. I think it should have been 8 across the board.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't disagree.

[Will Friedle]

I think Carrie Anne was a little harsh tonight.

[Danielle Fishel]

I do, too. I think she was a little stingy with the paddle tonight. I agree 100%. And there's nothing worse than spending a night with a woman who's stingy with the paddle. So, you know, it's. Yeah, she's. I thought so, too. I thought she pulled it back a little bit this week and was the one who, a couple times I did not agree with her scoring.

[Will Friedle]

I'm with you, man.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

She was having an off night for me. All right, next up, Danielle and Pasha. This was great. They did, I think, the best song of the night. I want to be like you. Wow. What? Really? Really? You don't love this song?

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm a. I'm a big Life is Highway fan, so I thought they started pretty. Pretty strong with Life is a Highway, but, yeah, no, I very much like the song. I would have been. There would have been something really great, and I had to Google it to make sure I thought there was a chance because Jungle Book. Didn't the Sherman brothers write some of the music for Jungle Book?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So I thought Danielle dancing to a Jungle Book song written by the Sherman brothers, where Jeffrey Sherman has been on our show and was one of the writers. That would have been a cool kind of Synergy. But great song.

[Will Friedle]

No, you can't beat this. Like, upbeat, especially for the quick step. This was. They. I felt like, wow, they finally had some really good production design because, you know, everybody else has had all these sets and done more sort of interpretive story based dancing, whereas Danielle and Pasha have kept it pretty standard up until now. So I loved seeing them in a set jumping around, being have. Bringing more character. And yeah, it was great. I thought it was super fun.

[Danielle Fishel]

When I first watched it last night, I did not think it was as good as Dylan's dance. Yeah, I could tell that her legs got a little smurgy there, which they pointed out. She messed up a step product.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

There it is. Well, I try to stay as technical with the dance terms as I can. They got a little scene.

[Will Friedle]

See, I didn't really notice. You know, I was just like, in it. And then when they pointed it out, I was like, oh, right. I guess she did get out of time or whatever.

[Danielle Fishel]

But yeah, I was like, oh, it was okay. But then I watched it again this morning with fresh eyes and it was great.

[Will Friedle]

It really.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, she did one step out of step. Okay, great.

[Will Friedle]

It was so. But you know, it's driving her crazy right now.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, my. Amazed if she could sleep last night.

[Will Friedle]

I know it was.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know there how between last week and this week and again, maybe not the best dance, but how she hasn't gotten an 8 yet, I don't think is fair.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

And I know we're biased, but last night she could have gotten an 8 on energy and stage presence alone. Could have gotten an 8. And it feels like they're judging her harsher than they're judging some of the other contestants.

[Will Friedle]

Well, I think they probably know that she is a beloved figure. You know, that she's getting a lot of the popular vote. Yeah. And I also think, you know, they probably. They. I think they're. Here's. Here's my. I think next week, Danielle and Pasha should do something very technically difficult. You know what I mean?

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

Like, because I feel like they did the classy dances, the more sort of straightforward. They showcased her abilities then. This week was about entertainment and character and personality. Now I think they should do something that really shows off that she's learning and that she's working hard on the dance side of things. And I think that that would go a long way to sort of showing the judges like, yes, I got out of, you know, time last week, but I was just in it and I was feeling the dance. Now let me show You. That I can do. You know, this very technical thing. That's my. My take. I don't know if she'll listen to me. I think I probably won't even talk to her.

[Danielle Fishel]

I think she's a bit in her head. And we know Danielle, again, we've talked about Danielle's personality. She not only wants to win because she's a competitive person, but she. Anything she tries, she wants to be great at. That's. That's just Danielle. So I think she's in her head about every step and doing this. And I think I've said this. I said this in our very first episode or second episode. I can't remember. But the week when Danielle just lets it all go is going to be a week where people are like, oh, my God, look what she just did.

[Will Friedle]

So you don't think this was that week, huh? You think she's too okay? For me, it was like. It was a good move to. She let it go more. For sure.

[Danielle Fishel]

She definitely let it go more. But to me, in the beginning, it started a little rough with her by herself. You know, when she jumps down from the chair and she's not with Pasha. And it was just her doing a move or two alone. They were a little stiff for me. Like, she was warming up a little bit.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

And so I. There's gonna be that week. And I, God, hope she stays, because she deserves it. And the idea that she got the same scores this week that she got last week, to me, is ridiculous. Cause it shows. They're saying she hasn't grown, and I disagree with that 1,000%. But so when she puts that week together, and, God, if she can do it next week, which they've announced so we can talk about When Bill Daniels, Mr. Feeny, is there, she'll bring the house down. She'll bring the house down. And I think a bunch of her Boy Meets World castmates are gonna be there. I don't know if we'll get the invite because we don't know her all that well, but I know a bunch of them are gonna be there. And so, yeah, it was. She'll bring the house down. That's all I gotta say.

[Will Friedle]

Sevens across the board, which was the same score as last week.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, I thought there could have been an 8. There could have been an 8 in there.

[Will Friedle]

Could have been an 8 in there.

[Danielle Fishel]

Before we move on, you know, we have to do Will's History of Dance, which, you know, I have an encyclopedic knowledge of all things dance, and I Like to let people know a little bit of the history of the dance that Danielle particularly does this week. I am also. I was very proud. I came up with the idea where I'm. Every week it's going to be sponsored by a very small company that needs to be up and coming that I'd like to work with. So this week's history of dance is sponsored by a company called Lamborghini.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, little car company.

[Danielle Fishel]

Little car company up and coming. Yes. And I think if they sent me a car, they'd be happy. But right now we're talking about the quick step, which is what Danielle did.

[Will Friedle]

Ryder.

[Danielle Fishel]

And it evolved in the 20s.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, I guess. Okay. No, go on. Yeah, yeah, no, it's fine.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, I'm just picking a company, a small. Just trying to give them a break. Yeah, they need your help.

[Will Friedle]

I'm trying. Let me guess. Quick step is about stepping quickly. Is that enough? Can we have it?

[Danielle Fishel]

But yes. No, but it's from the 20s. It's actually a combination rider of the foxtrot, the Charleston, the shag, the Peabody and the one step. It's English in origin and with standardized.

[Will Friedle]

Can you tell me more about the.

[Danielle Fishel]

Peabody when we get there?

[Will Friedle]

Oh, okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm not going to jump into.

[Will Friedle]

My friend. I don't have any information. But you're not going to tell me about the p. Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Would you like to know? So soon after the induction of The Foxtrot in 1914, two variations developed. A slow version done at about 40 measures per minute. That's the Peabody. Would you like me to keep going or.

[Will Friedle]

No, no, no, that's okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, that's fine. So it's English, 1927. It evolved from the foxtrot. The quick step now is quite separate. Writer. Unlike the modern foxtrot, the leader often closes his feet and syncopated steps are regular occurrences, as in the case of the foxtrot. Three characteristic dance figures of the quick step are the chasse where the feet are brought together, the quarter turns, and the lockstep. I just thought kind of fun.

[Will Friedle]

God let you know what's going on. You could have just been using Star wars terms for me, you know, like.

[Danielle Fishel]

But you would have understood Star wars term.

[Will Friedle]

You know, those kicks were a little sithy this week. They were a little sissy. It was a little sithystal. So do you think the judges have all of this stuff in their head? It's just like. Because, I mean, they threw out terms this week that I was just like, what?

[Danielle Fishel]

I would say they're artists Who. I mean, would you know, Would you know the equivalent lingo of theater?

[Will Friedle]

I think so.

[Danielle Fishel]

Maybe that's what I'm saying. I think so. I think it's probably the same. Or film. I think it's the same thing where you're talking about DPs and the 180, 80 rule and eye lines and stuff like that. Some people might not know exactly what you're talking about, but you do, because this is your world. So, yeah, they probably have this right at their fingertips, which is crazy. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

All right, next up, we had Scott Hoyne and Riley Arnold. He is apparently a Disney fanatic. Goes to Disneyland all the time. I'm really glad that he has stuck around because I am liking him more and more and I'm liking watching them dance.

[Danielle Fishel]

You didn't at first.

[Will Friedle]

Nope.

[Danielle Fishel]

Not at all. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I was like, why? You know. And I think, you know, they talk about it on the show. They talk about him coming out of his shell and, yeah, it's worked. Like, I'm totally, like, great, man. Like, you're. You're killing it. So they danced the salsa to Bop to the Top. And, yeah, I thought he was great. I think that he's just getting better and better and, like, it's merging the sort of expressiveness that he has discovered and it seemed technically to me. So I thought this was really fun. They got a little. A little knotted in their arms.

[Danielle Fishel]

They did. She got. She. She tucked under and had to do everything. It was.

[Will Friedle]

I was like, what? That. Was that a mistake? Yes, that was definitely.

[Danielle Fishel]

That was a mistake.

[Will Friedle]

Absolutely. Like twisting and like, folding. But.

[Danielle Fishel]

And they were doing High School Musical.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Which I thought was kind of interesting, seeing that Dylan didn't do High School Musical with his brother, which he talks about.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

And. And. And then they're doing High School Musical, but they're doing Sharpe. So, I mean, it's. It was a fun tongue in cheek, if, you know, High School Musical, you would have loved this dance kind of moment.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

They both had the microphones. Like, even though they weren't singing, they had the mics that they wore in the movie. So it was. It was.

[Will Friedle]

Never seen those movies. So I don't know. And then, like, when they were, like, talking over each other afterwards. That's like a reference to the movie.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, there were. There was actual. That was. That's the brother. So there's a brother, sister and team in the High School Musical movies that are kind of. Kind of steal the movies, especially the woman, Sharpe, who are just. It's Ashley Tisdale's character. So, yeah, they're great, but they were. I. I couldn't agree with you more, by the way. At first, I was like, ooh, this guy, he's very robotic, very mechanical. I don't find anything particularly engaging about him, even during his. His packages. And then now I really like him. I do the same thing. I really like him.

[Will Friedle]

I feel like he's just gotten comfortable, and he's just enjoying the process, you know?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. And it's like, now I have a question. Do you think this dance was better than Danielle's dance?

[Will Friedle]

No, I think it was about the same, and it was. I agree.

[Danielle Fishel]

Didn't they get an eight?

[Will Friedle]

No, no, they got sevens.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, they did. Okay, good. Then this is not the one. There's another one where they gave him an 8. And I was like, how the hell is that better than what Danielle did?

[Will Friedle]

Right, Right. No, this one, I felt. I felt like, you know, I think they're about the same level, I would say, you know, like, in terms of their journey. Like, I feel like. Yeah, they're both.

[Danielle Fishel]

I can see that.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. So, yeah, no, it seemed fair to me. 777.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

That's fair. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

This is not the one I was thinking about then. And again, she's. You can watch. I can watch her do anything. She's adorable. Riley is just such a fun dancer. Big smile. I mean, she looks like a. I'm not trying to insult her, but I know she's very young, but she looks like a little kid, like, having fun dancing.

[Will Friedle]

Right, Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

And it's. It's very engaging.

[Will Friedle]

Next up, Alex and Val. This was. She was gonna be a villain. They did a Viennese waltz to Once Upon a Dream. It was all Maleficent themed. Say that three times. I loved this.

[Danielle Fishel]

This was Dance of the Night for me.

[Will Friedle]

Me too.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I just. You know, it's funny because I've realized what I am most engaged by is storytelling. You know, Like, I still kind of want a dance to be a play or to. You know, and they really got into the characters and the storytelling, and I just felt like. I don't know, I felt like I was reading, you know, between the lines of, like, this relationship. And, I mean, she even talked about it, like, oh, we want it to be a toxic relationship. And, man, I just thought it was so great.

[Danielle Fishel]

Me, too. So, yeah, even the little flicks of her wrist to control him were, like, precise and coordinated. It was, I thought, a really cool dance all the way through. And I thought yeah, definitely. Dance of the Night for me.

[Will Friedle]

It was so expressive and, you know, also just think it's more my style, you know, a little darker, a little, like. I don't know. It's just great.

[Danielle Fishel]

Costumes are great, by the way. I got some. I got some ish, as the kids say.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Last week for criticizing Danielle's dress. Stand by that criticism 100%. She looked amazing tonight. Danielle.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought. But since we're talking about costumes, because this Maleficent costume and Val's costume, they were great.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. Okay. But the makeup, way too much.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, when people were coming. You mean her?

[Will Friedle]

No. Every mouse came out. I was like, I'm uncomfortable. Like, it was like, the makeup was too good. It was like they completely transformed the dancers. I couldn't recognize them. You know, like, the Aladdin, the Genie. It did. I was like, you look too much like a human mouse. Like, it's so creepy.

[Danielle Fishel]

I. I don't disagree. It was a lot. Right.

[Will Friedle]

And then the alien, I was like, I. I don't even know who the alien was. I can't recognize. It was like. And at one point, they complimented the makeup. I'm like, no, they actually went a little too far for me. Like, especially when you have Disney characters with their big, Disney cartoony heads. Right. I'm like, why do we have. Make them look like on camera, they're actually a human rat hybrid. Like, no. Anyway, moving right along to Hilaria.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, wait, what did they get? What did they get?

[Will Friedle]

Oh, they got eights.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I could have been a nine in there.

[Danielle Fishel]

For me, I could have sworn it was going to be the first nine we saw after that.

[Will Friedle]

Me, too. And I think if they had gone later, they probably would have gotten that. Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. What is that?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, no, it was like. Because when the nine came out later in the night, I was like, really? Because Alex Battle still kind of my favorite.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Do you think the dancers know? Like, do you think they get their list of where they're coming and they see their one or two, and they're like, ugh.

[Will Friedle]

Wait, what do you mean?

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, when they. When they find out the order they're going to dance in that for that week? Do you think they know? Like, especially the professional ones.

[Will Friedle]

We talked about this early on. I would also like to go first to get it out of the way. Right. Like, I would hate to. So there's got to be a balance where you're like, okay, at least I go early in the night, and then I can just relax.

[Ed Helms]

Right?

[Danielle Fishel]

But, yeah, but you don't get scored as high.

[Will Friedle]

I know it doesn't seem like.

[Danielle Fishel]

I think if she went. I think if Danielle went later. And again, this podcast at the end of the day is about Danielle. If Danielle went later, there would have been an eight, I think, in her. In her performance.

[Will Friedle]

All right, Hilarion, Gleb. They chose to do the Star Wars Cantina song, which was a weird choice. Weird, you know, choice. It's like one of those songs you can like for about 15 seconds and go, oh, yeah, that's cool. But then to have to watch a whole dance of it, I was like, song, song. Doesn't really go anywhere, does it?

[Danielle Fishel]

The longest. My life.

[Will Friedle]

I know. And I'm like, you know, I like Star Wars a lot, and I could tell that she does, and it seemed like a fun idea, but, like, I don't know what else you could do, though. What songs could you do?

[Danielle Fishel]

Star wars with John Williams music. Some of the most iconic music in the history.

[Will Friedle]

I know we can't dance to it.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's the song you pick.

[Will Friedle]

I know, but it's the only one that you could really do, like, a upbeat, A quick step to.

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, that's the thing. If you have to do something upbeat, it would have been difficult to do. Now, if you want to bring the house down and you do Luke's theme and you're doing like, a tango to Luke's Theme or something like that, that would be amazing.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, like, I'm trying to imagine. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, that'd be great too. But, yeah, the quick step to that song, I found. This entire thing, the song, the dancing, all of it, I found really weird this week.

[Will Friedle]

It was just. Yeah, it was just like, oh, that's cute. And then it just kept going. Yes, I know that she. She was dancing well. Like, I could, I could tell, but I just. It. It's just not. Not for me.

[Danielle Fishel]

I could see why people didn't like it. Yeah, I really could see why people didn't like it this week. I just found it was just very odd.

[Will Friedle]

The judges were pretty kind, though. They gave them two eights, so seven, eight, and eight. I, I, you know, this is the one.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm sorry. This is the one. They get two eights for this, and Danielle gets three, seven.

[Will Friedle]

But I think, I think there was some technical step stuff that she is good. She's good at. You know, Hilaria can. Can do it. And so I think that they wanted to reward her for that, but in terms of entertainment, like, no, like, it just felt. I Don't know.

[Danielle Fishel]

I would love to talk to a judge. Do you think, And I know there probably have to be. They're trying to be as unbiased as possible, but do you think they have their favorites so that they try to keep people in the competition?

[Will Friedle]

Well, I also wonder how much they're playing, like, against or with the popular vote. Like, how much did they know about the popular vote? In other words, do they, like, if somebody that they like is, they know, not getting well scored in terms of the popular vote, could they boost them a little bit?

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. Do they jack them up or do.

[Will Friedle]

They not tell the judges the popular vote results? I mean, that seems the most fair to me. Is that. Yeah, but you kind of know, right? You kind of get this feeling. It's because hilarious was in the bottom three last week. So you assume, like, oh, she might be on the bubble. So maybe they are like, well, she might be going home tonight. Let's give her a couple eights.

[Danielle Fishel]

I wonder. Yeah, I don't know how that worked because, again, very good dancer. She's technically very good. We've talked about this before, but how that's two eights and Danielle's three sevens. I, I, Danielle was so much more enjoyable to watch.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

So, yeah, that was that. This was the one where I was like, really? Two eights for this and Danielle got three sevens. Yeah, Totally biased, but I get it.

[Will Friedle]

Next up, Andy Richter and Emma Slater, of course. Just love this guy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Are you a ratatouille fan? The rat is the rat cooking. Okay. While the car is racing is not.

[Will Friedle]

You know, I, I, I've come around on ratatouille a little bit. I didn't, I didn't used to like it. I found it, but I, I watched it recently with Indy, and I was like, this is a, this is a cute movie.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a cute movie.

[Will Friedle]

I like Ratatouille. Yeah. I mean, yeah, the ending, when he actually the, the critic comes and eats the ratatouille and it goes to the flashback of him is amazing. I mean, that's a great storytelling.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So this, they did the Viennese waltz, and it was the ratatouille song. This was fine. You know, there was a moment when we were watching it and Alex goes, He's just walking. Yeah. And I was like, true. Yeah, it's true. And like I said, mouse makeup wear, mouse comfortable.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's my favorite quote of the night.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Don't, don't do that. It was like, it was an uncanny valley. Mouse land, not happy I think, you.

[Danielle Fishel]

Know, here's somebody who is clear and I'm not gonna say skating by because that's not. This is exactly how the show works and how the show is supposed to work, but this is somebody who's clearly just getting by every week because people like him and it's the popular vote.

[Will Friedle]

Entertainment. Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

We've probably seen the progression of his dancing. I don't think you're going to get much more.

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Danielle Fishel]

Who knows? Maybe he comes out and kills it one week it does something where everyone's like, oh my God. But I don't think so. I think he's not going to be.

[Will Friedle]

Doing the quick step.

[Danielle Fishel]

No. And I think it's kind of every week is going to be kind of him moving around a bit, holding onto his partner who dances around him. And he's hugely likable when he does it and you want to see him every week. But I think if it's. This is the thing that Jensen said to us. If you vote for your. The worst dancer, he goes home. If you vote for your favorite dancer, he stays.

[Will Friedle]

So I don't think he's lasted more than a week. I think he's gone next week.

[Danielle Fishel]

You think?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, because the competition is just too fierce now.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's starting to get too many other.

[Will Friedle]

Likable people who are, who are getting better at technical dancing. And then there are just flat out amazing dancers. Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

You've got your professional dancers, Whitney.

[Will Friedle]

These people are like clearly going to be in the top three. And so I think just we're getting to the point where we can't just keep. Keep having, you know, Andy along for the ride.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

All right, next up, Robert Irwin.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, wait, what did they get?

[Will Friedle]

Oh, they got sixes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Which I thought was fair.

[Danielle Fishel]

Again. Yeah, again. I don't think they've gotten. They've never gotten a seven. I don't believe they had five, all fives the first week and all sixes ever since.

[Will Friedle]

I think, I think that's. I think that's as high as they can get.

[Danielle Fishel]

I think so too, you know.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Robert Irwin, Whitney Carson, Zootopia. And they got to see it and he's like one of the characters so bad. I know. Well, I didn't quite understand that because I think he's.

[Danielle Fishel]

I think they made a character for him in the movie. I think. Isn't that what they're saying? Is that. I think.

[Will Friedle]

Did they or did they just do that as like a one off? Like, hey, if you were in the movie. Yeah, he's he voices a character in.

[Danielle Fishel]

The new movie coming out. See, there you go. He gets to. He's. He's also in it. Wow.

[Will Friedle]

Good for him. That's awesome.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Cool.

[Will Friedle]

Well, I was jealous of them getting to watch.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, of course. Me too. What'd you think of the dance?

[Will Friedle]

Boring.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. I like this. He's fallen off a little bit the last couple. I think he's open the door for other people to come in.

[Will Friedle]

I love this song, actually. And there was something. It was nice to see them sort of, you know, dial back the, like, fireworks again. But, like, I don't know. And. Yeah. And, you know, this is. This is the problem with coming out so hot that first episode.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

We kind of have high expectations. He's. He is great. He's a good dancer, but, man, like, you gotta blow it out now every time. And, like, I remember talking after the first episode and being like, you know, that was amazing. He's the best. And then I think it was. Jensen was like, yeah, but where do you go? And it's true. Like, it is. It's part of this. Part of the fun of this show is watching someone progress, watching someone do somebody. Something different. And it didn't. This just felt like a step. Like, it was. I don't know. If he had done the first week's dance, this would probably have been like, oh, he's great. He's great.

[Danielle Fishel]

I also think the pre. The pre dance package let him down because they cut to him at one point right before they start going, like, he's going, I'm not gonna do the accent, but, like, it's me. And so, of course, you know, it's gonna be high energy, and we're gonna go out there and do our thing. And then it wasn't high energy at all.

[Will Friedle]

And.

[Danielle Fishel]

Cause he says that it's like. And then when Shakira kicks in, you know, we're go. And I was like, oh, man. So when she starts singing, they're really gonna pick it up. And then they didn't pick it up it up. And I was like, oh, okay.

[Will Friedle]

You know, you go from ripping your shirt off the next week, you're gonna, like, try and button up a little bit more. I think that's what.

[Danielle Fishel]

I would have put a second shirt off.

[Will Friedle]

I think he felt a little like he had gone too far. He felt a little too free. So he was holding back a little bit with their. Their, you know, decisions this week and. All right, so they got seven. Seven and eight. I actually thought they could have had another eight in there.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought it was good, but don't disagree. But I agree with you that it was, you know, technically seem. He's. He now seems like he's working on dancing, like a technically becoming a better dancer, but it was. I found it a little boring.

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[Ed Helms]

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[Danielle Fishel]

And hi, I'm Kal Penn, and we're.

[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

You know what? I can see you as Mr. Darcy. You got a little Colin Firth.

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[Will Friedle]

All right. Then we had Elaine Hendricks and Alan Burstyn. So cool that she's the voice or she was one of the actors as the part of the Space Mountain pre show package. I thought that was cool. I love that. I'd love to be one of those people before a ride. Isn't that like an accomplishment as an actor?

[Danielle Fishel]

I did it.

[Will Friedle]

You did? For what?

[Danielle Fishel]

Of course my rap song. The Nickelodeon rap song was on the tour at Universal. When you go through Nickelodeon before you get on the ride, I'm there rapping to you and then you go from there. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

That's so cool man. Oh my God. Yeah, it was great. That's awesome.

[Danielle Fishel]

And you remember our most famous Boy Meets World alum who did it was for the Back to the Future ride was right. Turner's. Turner's girlfriend. Now I can't remember who played Cat Thompson, but I can't remember her name. Yeah, she was perfectly exactly. She came on POD too but yeah she was. You go to to the Back to the Future ride and there's her giant. Giant crowds watching her do her thing. It was so neat.

[Will Friedle]

That was so cool. They were dancing to the song from Space Mountain.

[Danielle Fishel]

I didn't know there was one.

[Will Friedle]

I didn't know there was one.

[Danielle Fishel]

Nope.

[Will Friedle]

I think she is an excellent dancer. This was just kind of not my style. Right. So I feel like. Yeah, you enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, again, it was, I think, also coming off of Robert Irwin where I was. I was a little let down, I guess, with expecting some excitement and some stuff. And it was just kinda like, oh, they're dancing and it's okay. This was a nice change of pace. I thought the Space Mountain y aspect of it, where it was like, it was alien and stuff, but almost from the 60s. Yeah. So there's that kind of almost go, go vibe to it, which I thought was cool. I liked the light show at the beginning, so I was in. I thought this. Cool. And she's another one who's so likable that you're kind of rooting for her.

[Will Friedle]

It's funny because, like, you know, I could tell by the way the audience reacted and by the judges who. They gave them eights across the board. I was like, oh, this is really good. It's just not for me. Like, there's this kind of campy approach to dancing and this kind of like, bouncy thing happening that I was just like, you know, like, this is just isn't my style. But that has nothing to do with their actual capabilities or, you know, talent, because they clearly have it.

[Danielle Fishel]

So.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, that was great. And. Yeah. Good high score.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, high score. Highest score she's gotten so far, I think.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And deservedly so, like, she's gotten even better, like, week to week. So I think, you know.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, another one progressing. But that's one of the things I'm going to go back to my best friend. Sorry. This is what I'm. What we're here for. That's one of the things that upset me about last night is because by giving Danielle three sevens again, they're saying you have not progressed from last week. And I don't buy that. I don't. I don't think that's accurate. She has gotten better from the first week to now, and they're not showing that in the scoring at all, in my opinion.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, next up, Whitney and Mark.

[Danielle Fishel]

Two professional dancers on a dance show.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. I mean, this was truly amazing. Of course.

[Danielle Fishel]

Of course it was. Yeah. Two virtuoso pianists playing the piano.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. And they were doing Hamilton, the room where it happens. Which again, for me had this storytelling component that I just love. You know, I'm just clearly more of a, like a musical dance type of person. Like, I want there to be characters. I want to know what's happening. And like, you know, when she shot him at the end, I was like, oh, my God, this is amazing. It, like captured the essence of Hamilton, told us a sort of story and struggle between them.

[Danielle Fishel]

And do you think it was fair using Hamilton? Cause the only thing Disney is that Disney license it to put it on Disney.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

So, I mean, there's nothing Disney about Hamilton at all other than you can watch it on the Disney platform.

[Will Friedle]

I know.

[Danielle Fishel]

So is this kind of a cheat?

[Will Friedle]

But who cares?

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

I'm just curious.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's like, you know, there's nothing Disney about Hamilton.

[Will Friedle]

Right. I mean, I guess when I think about the idea that, like, other people were choosing rides and the theme songs from a ride, when they clearly just chose a song they wanted to do and a story they wanted to tell, I guess it is. But like, I mean, do they stop people from choosing other things?

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, I don't know. I still don't know who chooses. Cause in some of the pre show packages, the celebrity is going. And this week we're dancing to it. In other ones, it's the professional saying, hey, this week, guess what we're dancing to. So I still don't know who picks it.

[Will Friedle]

I see. I mean. Cause you know, Disney, you could do Marvel, you could do. I mean, they could have done. Somebody could have done a Guardians of the Galaxy thing, right? And that would have Mandalorian, which doesn't feel Disney, but it is technically Disney company. I don't know, man. That's a good point.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't know. I'm curious. I mean, Disney's also abc. Could somebody have danced to the Boy Meets World theme song?

[Will Friedle]

That would have been great. When this Boy Meets World, that would.

[Danielle Fishel]

Have been an interesting one.

[Will Friedle]

Well, this was. I thought this was truly amazing. And of course, it was up there with Alex and Val doing the Maleficent dance. And this got the first nine of the season agreed with it too.

[Danielle Fishel]

It was phenomenal.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I agreed, but I still. In retrospect, I would have given Alex and Val A9, so I think so too.

[Danielle Fishel]

Still wasn't my favorite dance of the night. Alex and Val were still my favorite dance of the night. But this is. Again, it's. I'm not gonna keep harping on the professional thing. I mean, this. She should be on so youo Think youk Can Dance. Not Dancing with the Stars. So it's so youo Think youk Can Dance, I think, is professional dancers and people that have been struggling to dance their whole life now getting a break to try to dance. Oh, that's not. Hey, we're celebrities. Who's gonna teach. No, we're gonna teach you how to dance, which clearly, you don't have to teach her how to dance. She's a professional dancer.

[Will Friedle]

She needs to dance.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So.

[Danielle Fishel]

And she's great at it. She's phenomenal. She's easy to look at. She dresses amazingly. She's personable. She's got a big smile on her face. She's obviously having a ton of fun. I'm not trying. Not holding anything against her. She's just on the wrong show. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Next up, Jordan and Ezra. I just love her so much.

[Danielle Fishel]

Me, too.

[Will Friedle]

I just. I was excited to see them. And I also, like, cannot believe the height difference between these two. Like, did you keep noticing this?

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, it's huge.

[Will Friedle]

It's huge. And.

[Danielle Fishel]

But she's tiny. She's really.

[Will Friedle]

She's really small. So I don't. You know, I knew they were just like, okay. But it. They still make it work. I thought they were great. They danced to Special Spice. I've never seen the. The movie the Frog Princess, so. What have you?

[Danielle Fishel]

No.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. And so this bayou adventure. This is the rebrand of. Right. Of Splash Mountain. Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, is that what it is?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I think it's just Splash Mountain. They just took away Splash Mountain.

[Commercial Announcer]

They re themed it to Princess and the Frog.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

Song of the south is one of the shameful moments in Disney history, so.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. Moving right along. I thought this wall that they started behind was a little weird.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep.

[Will Friedle]

And getting out of it took, like, an extra couple of. You know, she kind of threw him over, and he jumped over, but then she had to get out. And I was like, yeah, guys, that was just an awkward choice. And then also, as much as her dress was beautiful, it kind of hurt the quick step factor.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, I can see that.

[Will Friedle]

It was like she would. You know, she had the big ballroom princess dress, but then it was a quick step, so I wanted to see her quick legs. And I know she was doing it right, and they scored her well. And. But I was just like, you know, I don't know if that was the best choice. So I feel like some production choices, like, if they had not started with that wall or the, you know, the porch that she was on and the gate in front of her and then chosen or found a way for us to be able to see her legs better. I. I think it would have probably gotten a 9 from at least one of the judges, but, yeah, she's another one.

[Danielle Fishel]

Totally likable.

[Will Friedle]

She.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought last week, Robert opened the door for her to. To take the top spot.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

But there's a couple people now that I think could really jump into that top role. And I agree with you. If you take, again, one of my guys, Michael Flatley, Lord of the Dance, and put him in a long dress so you can't see his feet moving independently of his body, then what's the point? Yeah, but she's.

[Will Friedle]

She's.

[Danielle Fishel]

And it's. It's so funny that you mentioned the height difference, because Scott and his partner definitely have a height disadvantage too, and it was so noticeable in the first couple weeks. Now it seems like they're kind of dancing better together. Whereas you never really noticed it with Jordan and her body.

[Will Friedle]

Jordan and Ezra. No, not while they're dancing. It's only when they're standing next to each other before and after that, I'm like, oh. But when they're dancing, I'm totally on. Like, it's really a tribute to them that they're making it work and they're making it feel natural.

[Danielle Fishel]

And you just see her athleticism. She's obviously so comfortable in her body and knows what she's doing, knows how to move it, and is great. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yep. All right. Jen and Jan closing out the night with Aladdin, a friend like me. This was I, again, uncomfortable with the makeup. I thought this was okay. Did you see the confetti afterwards all.

[Danielle Fishel]

Stuck to his body? Yeah. Stuck to the blue paint.

[Will Friedle]

It's like, oh. But I thought this was very fun and expressive and, like, character based for them, which is cool. But, you know, when she, like, did her, like, walk over her back walkover and stuff, I don't know, I just. I was kind of like, what I.

[Danielle Fishel]

Guess is okay, It's.

[Will Friedle]

It's a jazz dance, which is. This is the first jazz we've seen. And, like, halfway through, I was like, so jazz just means kind of whatever you want to do.

[Danielle Fishel]

Have you listened to jazz? Exactly. What jazz is.

[Will Friedle]

Whatever you want to do as the dance, too. Is it, like the idea that you can incorporate kind of of steps from anything?

[Danielle Fishel]

I guess. Well, I mean, I know. Of course I know, and we'll get into that when we get into the history. Sure. But I don't want to give that away. Now until Danielle has to do it. But yes, I. To me, this was a little bit of a wah, wah end to the night where I was like, okay, it's okay. We're done now. It was. It wasn't my least favorite. The least favorite was still the weird Star wars cantina dance. But this was. This was a close second to my least favorite dance of the night.

[Will Friedle]

Right. So.

[Danielle Fishel]

And she's adorable, and you want to see her dance. And they're. They're great together, even if he's in his strange blue makeup, which was off putting, but, yeah, it was. Was just kind of okay.

[Will Friedle]

And they got 7, 8, and 8. I would have again gone more on the 7 side of things.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

That gets two eights and Danielle gets three. Seven. Yeah, I didn't get it.

[Will Friedle]

That's the. The comparison that I would say is Seem. Makes it seem a little unfair that Daniel only got sevens. Yes, I agree. I think we're biased. All right. Then we came to the elimination round, which was very depressing to see Danielle leftover.

[Danielle Fishel]

Nerve wracking. I couldn't imagine standing up there.

[Will Friedle]

I know they're pulling on our heartstrings. They're manipulating us. They're making sure that we get out and vote and keep supporting our favorites.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, now I have a tough question for you because apparently I was wrong. I thought she was in the bottom three, so I guess maybe she wasn't. Do you think she was in the bottom three of voting?

[Will Friedle]

I don't think so.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

I think. I think that they are. I think she's in the bottom of the judges, but I think the popular vote people. I mean, I know people love Danielle, you know, and, like, I know that people are gonna keep voting for her, just, you know, her personality and how hard she's working. So I don't think she actually is at the bottom three, but I think it was a little reminder to be like, it's not always gonna be easy. And it is really stiff competition this year.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, huge.

[Will Friedle]

I say this year, like, I've watched other years, but it seems like maybe it's always this hard, but it just seems like, you know. Yeah. I like almost everybody now. Do you know what I mean? Like, I'm like, everybody deserves to be here.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

You know, for. For different reasons, but, like, that. That I'm like, Andy is the only one. I'm like, buddy, you got to get out of the way now because.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. It's been awesome, but you gotta get.

[Will Friedle]

Out of the way.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

But then when I start Looking at, you know, who's left, you know, now that. Hilarious. Because that was the result. Hilarious. And Gleb were voted off, which I kind of expected. Me, too, I guess, because maybe I thought it was going to happen last week, but then when the dance this week was just kind of meh, I was like, oh, well, that, you know, I was. Maybe they could have saved it. If they had had a better dance this week.

[Danielle Fishel]

Then who would they know? Because I don't think she's as. I don't think she's getting. It's exactly what you said with the judges. She's not getting the popular vote like Danielle or Andy are getting, but she's.

[Will Friedle]

Getting the judges vote like she has way more jud. Like Mario was doing way better in terms of the judges than Danielle.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So this was just a popular vote decision.

[Danielle Fishel]

And did you see all of. All of the talent, by the way, except Danielle? I don't think Danielle said it, but a lot of them were talking about, basically, if you keep me around next week, wait till you see what I have in store for you next week.

[Will Friedle]

Right, right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Which is the first time I've heard that. I've never heard the other. I mean, Dylan said that a couple people said that where it's. And hilarious was one of them. Where it was. I think she was going to dance with Alec Baldwin next week. And people were like, yeah, that's. That's all right.

[Will Friedle]

All right. Well, luckily, Danielle did not get eliminated.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thank God.

[Will Friedle]

I didn't really think it was going to happen, but I didn't know.

[Danielle Fishel]

I truly didn't know, because again, I. I'm like, I don't. I still don't get the scoring. I still don't get the judging. I still don't get how they're picking these numbers. So I was nervous because I was like, I don't. I don't understand how. And it's the not knowing that makes me so nervous because I'm like, I don't. I don't know how they're scoring this. I don't know what's going on. Yeah, it was rough.

[Will Friedle]

All right. You got a question for me?

[Danielle Fishel]

I do. Of course. As you know, every week we are going for our little segment that we like to call the strong incentive, and that's what it would take to get Rider Strong to be a contestant on Dancing with the Stars. Now, if everybody recalls, and they've been with us every week, the first week, somebody showed up at his house with a case filled with $500,000 in cash. Straight up cash. Ryder said, get off my porch, I'm armed. Second week, we added to that $500,000 in cash with a brand new Airstream Sprinter van. I think it was came to us. It was an Atlas Sprinter van with the extended cab, which was what threw Ryder entirely. But it was over a $300,000 value. We're at $800,000 of cash and prizes, and Ryder was still on his porch with a shotgun.

[Will Friedle]

Third week, am I armed? He was making me.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a great question, Ryder. We'll talk about that later. Third week, somebody found Sean's original leather jacket and threw that into the mix. And that was tough for going for.

[Will Friedle]

A soft turn against the fans.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hey, I didn't turn you against anything. I'm just making offers, my friend. And now would I have to wear.

[Will Friedle]

The leather jacket on Dancing with the Stars? Ugh, no. Oh, my God.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, this week, Ryder, we're gonna see how well I know ya. No, because now that you're once again on your porch and another box arrives and you open it up and it's your in mint condition original magic cards that you had from back in the day with a perfect condition black Lotus card thrown in.

[Will Friedle]

Wait a minute. How much is the Black Lotus worth?

[Danielle Fishel]

I think the last one just sold for $600,000.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, my God, you're so mean. Okay, so what would my, like all my original cards from, like when I.

[Danielle Fishel]

Was in mint condition? Every card you owned from your beta. Your alpha and beta decks.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, so no, it would be my unlimited deck. It would have volcanic eruption in it. It would have sleight of. My whole thing was that I used. It was white and blue and I used sleight of hand and. Or yeah, sleight of hand. And what is it? I could change the color terms and the color lamp.

[Danielle Fishel]

Color of prism.

[Will Friedle]

No, it was. They were in. Somebody cast something. I could like change which color they were targeting or whatever. It was like. It was like super manipulative deck. And then it was all like white like knights and like very like. Yeah. Oh, man.

[Danielle Fishel]

And a black Lotus card.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, you know what was in that deck that I would have? It was blaze of Glory, which was a great one, which is an instant that would make it so that everybody had to block one creature. So I would boost up one creature and make everybody block. Oh, no, not worth it. O, not worth it. No. You know, because a. I don't collect magic cards for the value of the cards. I don't, I don't. I've Never been into collecting, so I would. I would. I would appreciate. I would actually. If they weren't in mint condition, I would actually be more tempted if they were like the original cards that I've lost, like, porn and, you know, covered in dirt from, you know, when I would play in the ground at Coffee Cats in Sebastopol. No, I'm not gonna do it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

It's not worth it. It's not worth it. At the embarrassment of me dancing and the self consciousness. I love you, my magic hearts, but you just know.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, we're at. We're at about $2 million worth of stuff.

[Podcast Producer/Editor Tara]

For the record.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. You threw in the Black Lewis just to. Just to really stick it to me. But I think you knew I would say no. You knew I would say no.

[Danielle Fishel]

I can't have. I can't pick something every week to where it's like, oh, he's definitely. Because there's that. I know for a fact the second I say, you'd be like, okay, I'd have to do it. And so I'm obviously holding those to the very end.

[Will Friedle]

Right, right, right. Just the torture of this, though. It would be so.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. It's magical. Oh, freedom.

[Will Friedle]

You're stuck to the point. Hold on. Have we asked, like, would you do this show ever?

[Danielle Fishel]

No.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

But I would. It's not for embarrassment.

[Will Friedle]

But what about the. Would you do it for $500,000?

[Danielle Fishel]

No, because I just. There's not. I've said this from the beginning. There's nothing. A dance instructor in the world that could actually teach me how to dance. Andy Richter's a way better dancer than I am and would ever be.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, God, I don't think so, man. We did a dance on Boy Meets World, and I remember and go back and watch it.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's awful. And I'm staring at you guys the whole time, and I'm like, just trying to get my feet underneath me. No, it's bad.

[Will Friedle]

I think you could look at it as an acting job. Like, you could get into your head, like, I am playing a role this week, and that role is, you know, the leader of the dance for this. Yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Really?

[Will Friedle]

Honestly, I think that's how you could get into it.

[Danielle Fishel]

It.

[Will Friedle]

Because I think you can do physical comedy incredibly well. And I think that if you just looked at it as, like, I'm playing this part this week, whether that's, you know, the guy leading this great ballroom dance or the person who's expressing this thing through a quick step, I don't.

[Danielle Fishel]

Think I don't think that would work. Yeah, I don't think you could work. And by second week I just ripped my shirt off and instantly be voted off the show. They'd like stop me mid dance. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Will Friedle]

Shut this down. Get this guy a robe. You're so hard on yourself, man.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love it.

[Will Friedle]

All right, that's it for this episode of POD meets Twirled. Join us next week as we continue watching season 34 of Dancing with the Stars. We may not know a Lindy hop from a bunny hop, but we know what we learned way back in Feeny's class. Daniel Fishel is the star of the show. Podmeetes World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fischl, Will Friedle and Ryder Strike Strong executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Sugbash, producer Maddy Moore, engineer and Boy Meets World superman Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram odmeatsworld show or email us at podmeatsworldshowmail.com introducing the IHOP Value menu where all your breakfast faves are just six bucks each and every day.

[Danielle Fishel]

I ask you, where else can you get a big filling sit down breakfast for only $6? Just IHOP, baby.

[Commercial Announcer]

There are four menu items on the IHOP Value menu and each one is just six bucks every day.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, I can't wait to hear these.

[Commercial Announcer]

For six bucks you can get the Breakfast Faves combo. Fluffy pancakes topped with melty butter plus crispy bacon and eggs.

[Danielle Fishel]

Love it.

[Will Friedle]

Or the French toast combo. French toast with tasty sausage and eggs. Also just six bucks.

[Danielle Fishel]

Two for two.

[Commercial Announcer]

The house scramble with cheesy bacony eggs and crispy hash browns is also, you guessed it, six bucks.

[Danielle Fishel]

The hits keep coming.

[Commercial Announcer]

And finally you can get a ham and cheese omelette and a side of pancakes. That's right, an omelet and pancakes all for just six bucks.

[Will Friedle]

Wow.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's absolutely glorious.

[Will Friedle]

Go to your happy plates with the $6 IHOP value menu available every day at IHOP. $7 in some locations, big things are.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Commercial Announcer]

At cvs, so if you're not a member yet, join for free online or in store and start saving.

[Danielle Fishel]

Visit your local CVS store or cvs.com extra big deals to shop this week's deals.

[Will Friedle]

What kind of man would let this happen to his family? Inspired by shocking actual events I'm working.

[Danielle Fishel]

On, the story about the Murdochs. Their abuses of power are playing out in real time.

[Will Friedle]

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[Podcast Producer/Editor Tara]

Leaving too long, playing too little. New homes, new babies.

[Will Friedle]

Waking them up when they look so comfortable.

[Podcast Producer/Editor Tara]

Running out of patience, running out of.

[Will Friedle]

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[Podcast Producer/Editor Tara]

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[Danielle Fishel]

This is an I Heart podcast.