Pod Meets Twirl'd: DWTS 3406

Summary

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Pod Meets World: Pod Meets Twirl’d – DWTS 3406 Recap

Podcast: Pod Meets World
Date: October 25, 2025
Hosts: Will Friedle & Ryder Strong
Theme: A light-hearted, deeply opinionated and playful breakdown of "Dancing with the Stars" Season 34, Episode 6 (Wicked Night), from the perspective of two "Boy Meets World" alums now self-proclaimed DWTS “experts”—mainly because their co-host and friend, Danielle Fishel, is a contestant.

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Episode Overview

In this energetic episode, Will and Ryder unpack every twist, turn, and kick-ball-change of Wicked Night on Dancing with the Stars. Broadcasting with Will in the States and Ryder in Costa Rica (accompanied by a 50th birthday party crowd keen to talk all things DWTS), the duo give the rundown on each performance, debate judging, riff on the quirks of the show, and, of course, gush enthusiastically over Danielle Fishel’s breakout performance. They also muse about how DWTS blends talent, personality, and voting quirks, frequently parodying their own dance ignorance while serving up sharp observations and running jokes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Podcasting from Costa Rica & Becoming Accidental Dance Experts

• [03:34] Ryder opens with banter about podcasting from Costa Rica and the out-of-body experience of becoming a "DWTS commentator" just by stating they are not experts.
  • “I was just, you know… everyone wants to know how Danielle’s doing. I’m like, good, I think I’m going to talk to her tomorrow." —Ryder [05:01]
  • “All of a sudden we’ve become experts because we said we’re not experts.” —Will [05:18]

2. Danielle Fishel’s Standout Week

• Danielle (Topanga) and Pasha’s dance is a major highlight, with both hosts effusively praising her breakthrough.
  • “It was like a wanted to cry moment for my friend…we know how hard she’s been working." —Will [06:04]
  • “For her to be able to lean into [her bubbly and dark sides] this week was just incredible." —Ryder [07:01]
  • Memorable quote: “She arguably…all things being considered, was dance of the night." —Will [54:46]

3. Wicked Night: A Broadway Twist

• The night is themed around the musical Wicked, leading both hosts to comment on the opening group number and how the Broadway style amped up the entire episode.
  • “It seemed like we went to the Pantages and were watching a big theatrical show in front of us." —Will [07:53]
  • “It brought a cool energy—everybody focused around one story and set of characters." —Ryder [08:33]

4. Dance-by-Dance Breakdown (Highlights)

Scott Hoying & Riley Arnold

• Dance: Contemporary (“The Wizard and I”)
• Feedback: Struggled—awkward, shuffling, missed a few lifts.
  • “He was kerfuffled at the beginning...super clunky when he’s by himself.” —Will [09:06]
• Scores: Sevens across the board.
  • “Pretty generous, frankly.” —Will [11:04]

Ariana Madix & Pasha

(Note: episode transcript skips detailed dance for Ariana & Pasha, but focuses later on Danielle Fishel's big night—likely the episode’s main “star turn”)

Alexis and Val

• Dance: Jazz (“What Is This Feeling?”)
• Feedback: Impeccable sync, stage presence.
  • “This is so fun… this is going to be a good night.” —Ryder [11:27]
• Scores: 9, 9, 8, 9
• Judge Score Inflation: Hosts note score creep, wonder if the bar keeps artificially rising.
  • “Is it just that the judges just up the ante…making scores higher?” —Ryder [12:37]

Robert Irwin & Whitney

• Dance: Jazz (“Dancing Through Life”)
• Performance: Strong, “blends in with the pros.” Hosts speculate he or Whitney will win.
  • “He’s just blending in with the pros now.” —Ryder [15:55]
  • “I don’t think anybody’s going to beat him this year.” —Will [17:22]
• Scores: 9, 9, 9, 9

Whitney and Mark

• Dance: Quickstep
• Feedback: “Incredible.” Both marvel at the technical difficulty.
  • “...Even as a complete amateur, I’m like, this is hard!” —Ryder [19:03]
• Scores: 10, 9, 10, 10

Dylan and Daniela

• Dance: Latin (Noted: step back in quality)
• Feedback: Daniela is mesmerizing; Dylan seemed less confident, more clunky.
  • “Her body becomes a flame flickering around or something. It’s so impressive…” —Ryder [30:28]
  • “I did not think he was as good this week. He felt a little clunky.” —Will [30:43]
• Scores: All eights (8, 8, 8, 8)

Andy and Emma

• Dance: Jazz (“One Short Day”)
• Discussion: Hosts praise Andy’s personality and heart but expect it's nearly time for him to go based on dancing alone.
  • “He’s awesome. We love him… but now it might be time for you to go.” —Will [36:51]
  • “In this field…he can only go so far…” —Ryder [50:07]
• Scores: 7, 6, 7, 7

Elaine and Alan

• Dance: Contemporary (“Defying Gravity”)
• Notable Staging: Elaine spends 30 seconds aloft, not actually dancing.
  • “For 30 seconds of the dance, she’s not dancing. Is that a cheat?” —Will [45:55]
  • “I think dropping a point or two from a couple judges…she probably should have gotten an eight.” —Ryder [47:33]

Jen and Yan

• Dance: Foxtrot (“As Long As You’re Mine”)
• Feedback: Improving, but still “blends in.” Slight misfire at the ending.
  • “She seems so lovely…but she just blends in a bit.” —Will [48:54]
• Scores: Eights (8, 8, 8, 8)

Danielle Fishel & Pasha

• Dance: Argentine Tango
• Feedback: Major breakthrough. Hosts praise her technical mastery, expression, and dynamic presence—especially with an injured leg.
  • “She is one of the smallest people I’ve ever…you would never call her long-legged. And yet I was watching this—I was like, where did these legs come from?” —Ryder [53:40]
  • “My parents called me…‘Oh my god! Wait till you see Danielle.’” —Will [54:01]
  • “She arguably…was dance of the night.” —Will [54:46]
• Scores: Nines across the board (9, 9, 9, 9)—first nines, and Danielle is ecstatic.

Jordan and Ezra

• Dance: Rumba (“For Good”)
• Feedback: Jordan’s athletic control is stunning. She “could go off and become a professional dancer.”
  • “Her personality is really coming through…she’s just physically amazing.” —Ryder [56:44]
• Scores: 10, 9, 10, 10 (tied highest of the night)

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5. Personality, Popularity & the Voting System

• Ongoing debate about whether dance improvement or popularity keeps contestants on the show, with the duo both praising Andy’s likability but suggesting it’s time for better dancers to stay.
  • “If the goal is to entertain you, [Andy will] win every week. If the goal is to dance, it might be time we say goodbye to Andy.” —Will [39:56]
• Hosts express curiosity about how fan bases (influencers, athletes, legacy stars) affect voting, especially for contestants like Whitney (reality dance influencer) or Danielle (90s TV nostalgia).

6. Judging Consistency and Score Inflation

• The hosts notice increasing scores each week and wonder if judges plan or “inflate” to keep up excitement.
  • “Is there judge inflation?” —Ryder [13:39]
  • “Poor [Carrie Ann]. She can’t win for trying…We’re gonna bash her for being too harsh and bash her for being too friendly.” —Will [23:33]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "It was like a wanted to cry moment for my friend...we know how hard she's been working." —Will [06:04]
• "All of a sudden we've become experts because we said we're not experts." —Will [05:18]
• "I thought Scott had not progressed enough. Andy is progressing, and I think...he is progressing, so I think this was the right call." —Will [37:05]
• "She arguably...was dance of the night." —Will [54:46]
• "If you committed, I'd be such a downer. Stick in the mud." —Ryder, joking about ever joining DWTS [63:40]
• "It's just commitment. Commitment is the point. That's what we're celebrating with Andy—his commitment." —Ryder [39:41]

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Fun Side Segments

"The Strong Incentive" Game — [60:04]

Will tempts Ryder with hypothetical prizes (like a year in New Zealand with his family in a Sprinter van) to see what it would take for Ryder to agree to be on DWTS. This week, Ryder immediately says yes to the New Zealand offer.

• “Yes, I would do it… That is, like, literally my dream…” —Ryder [62:17]

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Elimination, Outcomes, and Looking Ahead

• Elimination: Scott Hoying is eliminated, which both Ryder and Will saw coming.
  • “It wasn’t a surprise…he took a step back as a dancer this week.” —Ryder [59:00]
• The field is narrowing, with strong dancers (like Danielle and Robert) rising as clear leaders, and Andy’s charming underdog story possibly nearing its end.

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Final Thoughts

• The episode closes with the hosts reflecting on the mix of talent, athleticism, personality, and narrative that makes DWTS such fun TV. The consensus is that this season is stacked with dancers, and that Danielle’s transformation has officially made her a contender. Through witty asides, honest opinions, and lots of “we know nothing, but here’s what we think”—the hosts make the episode enjoyable whether you’re a passionate fan or a casual viewer.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:34] — Costa Rica trip & friends talking DWTS
• [05:45] — Accidental “DWTS experts” & Danielle check-in
• [07:53] — Wicked group routine: Broadway boost
• [09:02] — Scott Hoying & Riley critique
• [15:31] — Robert Irwin: prediction as favorite
• [19:19] — Whitney and Mark: judged on difficulty
• [30:13] — Dylan & Daniela: amazing pro, but Dylan slips back
• [36:51] — Andy & Emma: is it time to go?
• [45:34] — Elaine & Alan: staging vs. dance time
• [53:05] — Danielle's Argentine tango: major triumph
• [54:46] — “Dance of the night” (Danielle)
• [58:52] — Speculating on Jordan’s fanbase and voting
• [59:00] — Elimination: Scott goes
• [60:04] — “The Strong Incentive” & Ryder’s hypothetical DWTS deal

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In summary:
An episode full of affectionate teasing, honest appraisals, and Boy Meets World camaraderie, spotlighting Danielle Fishel’s emergence as a DWTS frontrunner, technical dance debates, and musings on what really drives a winning season on the world’s sparkliest dance contest.

Transcript

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[Ryder Strong]

Welcome to Pod Meets Twirl the Dancing with the Stars recap. Hosted by two guys who can't dance, don't want to dance, and have now seen six episodes of Dancing with the Stars. But since our best friend Danielle has joined the cast for season 34, we're going all in. We are Will Friedle and Ryder Strong, AKA the two dudes next to Topanga, AKA Daniel Fishel's backup, AKA the Dan Yettes. How's it going, Will?

[Will Friedle]

It's good. How are you?

[Ryder Strong]

I'm a little tired. I spent all day yesterday traveling. Six hour flight landed in Costa Rica. Three and a half hour bus ride. But yeah, I'm here now. We're celebrating my wife's 50th and we're here for like the next five days with no children.

[Will Friedle]

Sounds fun. I'm curious, how many Dancing with the Stars recap podcasts do you think are being recorded in Costa Rica right now?

[Ryder Strong]

Just the one, baby.

[Will Friedle]

Is this just you or this is just a whole room? Here's some people.

[Ryder Strong]

You know what is funny though, because I started to think you were going to ask like, how many Dance with the Stars conversations have you had? And I would say, Surprisingly, a lot.

[Will Friedle]

10,000? Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

Me too. I just yesterday, because we're traveling here, a bunch of friends are here. We have like 20, 20 some friends who have met us in Costa Rica for my wife's 50th and everybody wanted to talk Dancing with the Stars last night.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

I was just, you know, a lot of them hadn't seen like last week's episode or just, you know, so, yeah, and it was a big discussion. You know, everyone wants to know how Danielle's doing. I'm like, good, I think I'm going to talk to her tomorrow when we record.

[Will Friedle]

Well, I love how literally when you do a podcast saying I don't know what I'm talking about, people somehow assume I know what I'm talking about.

[Ryder Strong]

Right. Right.

[Will Friedle]

Where I'll get. I'm getting Conversations with people all the time, like, yeah, but, you know, she missed that kick turn. I'm like, the what? She what? So it's still so funny where all of a sudden we've become experts because we said we're not experts.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, we have opinions, though, don't we?

[Will Friedle]

We do.

[Ryder Strong]

Boy, do we have opinions. I was so happy this week. I just have to say.

[Will Friedle]

Weren't you?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Okay. But what's funny is that I actually, like I said last week, I enjoyed the dancing. Like, all that contemporary stuff was beautiful and emotional. But yes, as far as, like, feeling good about the show and feeling good about Danielle, obviously, I was just so elated this week. I just. God, she killed it.

[Will Friedle]

I did, too. And this was. It was like. It was like a wanted to cry moment for my friend where it was like, oh. Cause we know how hard she's been working. Yep. We know how much it's been bugging her with how hard she's been working.

[Ryder Strong]

And she's.

[Will Friedle]

By the way, we know her well enough to know that she's only bugged with herself. Danielle is not the person who. I can't believe the judges did this. I can't believe my partner did this. I can't believe other couples do. Nope. She's only harsh on herself.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So when you have a week like this where it was like, it seemed like the stars aligned and she got to do that, it was awesome.

[Ryder Strong]

I just think they were so smart. Like, her and her and Pasha just did the exact right thing, you know, like, coming off of last week because I was a little question I was questioning last week. It's like, really, we're going to double down on boy meets world. I mean, I love seeing everybody there. I love Bill being on stage. But, you know, I just think, like, we want to see you do more Dancing with the stars stuff. We want to see more sides to Danielle, which we know are there, you know, and so for her to be able to lean into that this week was just incredible.

[Will Friedle]

Did you chuckle a little bit, by the way, when during her pre show package, she said, I'm a bright, bubbly person, but occasionally I have a darker side.

[Ryder Strong]

Did you chuckle just a little bit? No. I honestly didn't even catch that. I have a knife in my pocket.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly. I'm armed to the teeth.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, my God. All right, we started off with Scott Hoying and Riley Arnold. Scott apparently is a wicked suit. Oh, well, we should say it's wicked night.

[Will Friedle]

It's pronounced white carrot.

[Ryder Strong]

Have you seen it?

[Will Friedle]

Will never seen it didn't know anything about it. Never heard a single song from it. I want to watch the movie, but didn't know anything about it.

[Ryder Strong]

You know, I started to watch the movie really late night in New Zealand in a camper van with my son, and I fell asleep. But I was thoroughly enjoying it. And I've never gone back, but. So now I need to go back and watch it. And I've never seen the stage musical, too, which is.

[Will Friedle]

I haven't either. I will say. Because I know we're going to jump right into the dancing, and we should. But I will say the opening dance number of all of them together to that, I think it was called Defying Gravity Song. That was a pretty amazing start to the night. It seemed like you. We went to the Pantages and we were watching a big theatrical show in front of us. And obviously something like this, a stage play that is singing and dancing lends itself to dance. And I thought that man did that show tonight in a lot of the dancing. And the people that killed it were the people that got that and really leaned into, like, oh, I'm doing. I'm doing Broadway right now. And because I'm doing Broadway, it's going to. It's going to kill. And it did a lot of the times. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I think it brought a cool energy of absolutely everybody focused around one story and one set of characters and, like, how they're interpreting that. It was cool.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, me too.

[Ryder Strong]

So, yeah, so Scott was a wicked superfan, and they did a contemporary dance to the song the Wizard. And I, I. You know, I've been up and down on Scott. Like, when we first started, I was like, I don't know what he's doing then. I really, really loved his journey. And I watched this, and I was like, oh, no, he's going home.

[Will Friedle]

I thought exactly the same thing. This was not a good dance. And he was like.

[Ryder Strong]

He was.

[Will Friedle]

And I'm gonna use a scientific dancing term, he was kerfuffled at the. At the beginning. I mean, you could see he didn't know where to put his hands. I think he missed at least one or two lifts with her. I mean, he was. I know, at the beginning, very all over the place and the side by sides. Again. He's just super clunky when he's by himself.

[Ryder Strong]

I know. It's just funny because, like, he's. He's come so far in previous dances, but this one, like, I really. The word. The thing I wrote was awkward and shuffling.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Which is like, oh, God, we're like five weeks into the dance show. Like, you can't be awkward and shuffling. So I think something just went off. Like, I think he was out of time or nervous. I don't know. It's too bad because he just didn't have. He didn't have that fluidity and grace, which I feel like he's been finding other weeks. And I think he also, the best part of his whole journey is that he's really gotten comfortable with his self expression physically, and that's still there. But yes, at this point in the show, we need to see actual dance hitting those mucks and on time. So, yeah, it was a bummer.

[Will Friedle]

No, I felt the same way. I thought it was one of those things where he. Maybe it was the dual pressure of him being such a Wicked fan coupled with going first, which for some people that's got to be rough. But you could tell he was just. He was off. There's times he's, like, staring at his feet and, you know, his. Again, his hands were kind of all over the place. It was pretty bad.

[Ryder Strong]

And at this point I was like, oh, God, maybe Wicked night is going to be awful. What are we coming off of? So much emotion from last week. I mean, literally, like, I was crying start to finish of Robert Irwin's thing, you know, so it's like I was really. And so to be like. And now witches and dancing. I was like, oh, God. And, you know, this one started it off and I was like, oh, man, he loves this, but it's not translating. Like, maybe, you know. But turns out it was a good night for dancing. Next up, Alex and Val. I thought this was. Oh, wait, actually, we should say what? They were scored. They got sevens across the board, which was pretty kind, I thought.

[Will Friedle]

Pretty. Pretty generous, frankly.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And I'm sorry, but if. If there were the same kind of things done for Andy, he would have gotten at least 1 6, right?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Right. All right, next up, we're Alex and Val. Their sync was insanely good. I could not get over this dance, like, in terms of just them moving, you know, maybe it was coming off of Scott and Riley, too, being slightly off.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

But I thought this was like, what? This is so fun. And I was like, okay, this is going to be a good night. They were dancing to. What is this feeling? They were doing a jazz dance. What'd you think?

[Will Friedle]

I mean, again, I thought it was great. This is kind of lending itself again to the stage presence and the being on Broadway kind of feel to me. So it Worked. And they were really good together. I mean, they always are. So it's. Yeah, they're great.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Came out with 9, 9, 8, 9. And this is the beginning of what I would say was, like, it's a really. It was a high scoring night.

[Will Friedle]

Very. And.

[Ryder Strong]

And pretty much across the board. I was, like, surprised. I mean, actually, if you had asked me three weeks ago, I would have said their scoring is way too low based on what we were saying. But I guess they're like, progressively they just up everybody's score.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

Cause doesn't it seem like everybody was like, we're all in, like, 8 through 10 territory now? Like, if you're getting a 6 or.

[Will Friedle]

7, it's real bad.

[Ryder Strong]

It's real bad.

[Will Friedle]

You might as well be getting a two if you're getting a six. And that's.

[Ryder Strong]

And I just feel like that's. I don't. Is that reflective of the fact that they are actually getting better in such a way that, like, you and I can't see how they're getting better, or is it just that the judges just up the ante by making the scores higher?

[Will Friedle]

I think they do that, but I also think there's something kind of weirdly arbitrary about that and all the scoring, because it's like, does that mean you come out, you give the best dance they've ever seen on night one, you're still only going to get a six. I mean, like, if you're not open to judging the thing for what it.

[Ryder Strong]

Is, you know what we should do? We should go back and watch, like, Robert Irwin's first dance.

[Will Friedle]

Right?

[Ryder Strong]

Because I wonder. Because I remember the time being like, well, that's perfect. Give the guy tens or whatever, you know.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

And there were a couple early ones. I just randomly picked his. I remember we all liked it. But, like, I'd like to go back and watch, like, a week one dance that only got seven and compare it to, like, one of this week's nines.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Because my feeling is. I don't know, but my feeling is they're just getting higher. Like, there's. There's judge inflation.

[Will Friedle]

Is that what, Great inflation?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Because I don't know. Or, you know, or maybe they really are, like, doing better at certain things, like, technically that I'm just not seeing. Like, they're more on time or in sync. I don't know. But anyway, yes, these two were perfectly.

[Will Friedle]

In sync, I would also argue, because you. You always talk about Whitney and I. And I think you're.

[Ryder Strong]

I think.

[Will Friedle]

No, no, no. You Talk about. What's her name?

[Ryder Strong]

Daniella.

[Will Friedle]

Daniela.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

You could argue Val is the best dancer out there. I mean, that guy was. Was shredding it. And his. His choreography's really good too. I mean, this was very engaging. And this was a week. I thought about you during this. This was a week where not only did I not mind when they were lip syncing, when they weren't, it kind of threw me a little bit. Like, I felt like I was watching a play when they were lip syncing a bit. And I kind of dug it. I did.

[Ryder Strong]

No, I hated it. I just. I just. I know I had to turn that part of my brain off because I was like, oh, they're, like, all gonna do it. And I totally understand why, because they're basically doing musical numbers.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

But, like, they also all stopped halfway through. So then I'm like, wait, are. You're not in character anymore?

[Will Friedle]

I just.

[Ryder Strong]

Don't. Don't go there, guys.

[Will Friedle]

That didn't bother me this week.

[Ryder Strong]

It didn't bother me this week. I know I had it.

[Will Friedle]

But, yeah, they were great. All right.

[Ryder Strong]

I thought it was a little less emotional and, you know, but great dancing.

[Will Friedle]

When the two guys pick her up and throw her to him.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Really cool moves like that.

[Ryder Strong]

All right, next up were Robert and Whitney. These guys are, I mean, some of the front runners here.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And they said going into the package, they said, this is going to be their most ambitious dance yet. Which I was like, huh, really? Because you've been pretty damn ambitious. They did a jazz dance to dancing through life. And, you know, it was incredible. It was great.

[Will Friedle]

I. I don't think it was their best dance, frankly. I know they said there was more ambitious. It was more ambitious. Maybe it was more ambitious because there were more people involved. I mean, it's like he started as essentially one of the dance dancers of the show. He was like him and like, nine people around that table.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

Which is a little bit different, but.

[Ryder Strong]

Also just like, he's just blending in with the pros now.

[Will Friedle]

That's what I mean. That's what I mean. It's like, you don't. He's just one of them now.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. I thought this was just so fun, you know, it was just like a solid, great dance. I mean, I just think that he's probably the best dancer of the celebrities of the stars.

[Will Friedle]

I think it's him and Whitney, who's the professional dancer, by the way. Yeah, but. But yes, exactly. I think so, too. I'm waiting for, like, a week to Come out where. Where they're like, oh, my God, the choreography was amazing. And he's like, yeah, that was me, mate. I cor. Choreographed this week. Like, wait, what?

[Ryder Strong]

So, yeah, see, it's funny because, like, I don't even really count Whitney as a star. I just think of her as a dancer.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly.

[Ryder Strong]

Because I don't. I think she's great at what she's doing and I do like watching the dances. I don't feel like it's fitting with the story of this show, but I guess. But that's. But that's partly unfair because I'm not somebody who looks to influencers as celebrities. Right. Like, I'm.

[Will Friedle]

I'm.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm totally of the generation where that if you're on a reality show or you're. I don't know, like, you know, which I guess maybe you could say about Robert too. Like, is he a celebrity? Is he.

[Will Friedle]

See, here's. I don't care about the celebrity status at all. For me, I look at what's made you a celebrity and what's made her a celebrity is dancing.

[Ryder Strong]

Right. Right.

[Will Friedle]

You know, if she's a celebrity influencer who. All she does is cook. And she's the biggest cook. Celebrity influencer. And then they come and teach her how to dance. That's great.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

That's the chief. And you're right, she's paid to dance. I don't care what the platform is. She's a paid dancer. So that's what it is for me. But yeah, he's. You're right. He just. He's now part of them. He's a. He's a dancer. So, yeah, it's. Was once again a great performance to watch. And I still think he. I don't think anybody's going to beat him this year. I just. I don't think anybody's going to beat.

[Ryder Strong]

Him because he's, He's. He's so. He's so solid as a dancer. And then his, his. His personality, he's just so likable and like.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, his family is super likable. His family is Dancing with the Stars royalty. They would repeat again with. With, you know, his sister having one.

[Ryder Strong]

It's.

[Will Friedle]

The story's built in.

[Ryder Strong]

Is there another, like, younger brother or sister who's gonna.

[Will Friedle]

I don't think there's another, but yeah, that. I think Bindi's daughter's there the whole time. I'm guessing Bindi's daughter is already dancing. They're already training her to get ready.

[Ryder Strong]

Yep.

[Will Friedle]

So it is it's become a. It's a powerhouse Dancing with the Stars family.

[Ryder Strong]

Okay. So they got.

[Will Friedle]

We're in that territory now now.

[Ryder Strong]

9, 9, 9, 9.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

So here we are. We're in. In high, high scoring territory.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It's like, okay. And. But it was great. I thought. I thought it was deserved. All right, Whitney and Mark. This is a quick step. Tons of little, little quick steps. I was so impressed. Amazing.

[Will Friedle]

Incredible.

[Ryder Strong]

Incredible.

[Will Friedle]

Hated the color of the outfits. I get that they're doing that, but everything. Pepto Bismol, color, I was not a fan of.

[Ryder Strong]

I know it's a little weird.

[Will Friedle]

It was a little weird. But, yeah, It's. You're watching two professional dancers dance amazingly well. Yeah. Film at 11, you know?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. There's something a little like, okay, cool. You know, there was. It was advanced. Do you know what I mean?

[Will Friedle]

Like, there was actually hugely.

[Ryder Strong]

I was like this. That I could tell, even as a complete amateur, I'm like, this is hard, like, to keep up with each other in. Exactly. And I was like, it's just so. It was just so fast and like, whoa. Coming at you.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

So I. I figured there were going to be tens.

[Will Friedle]

And you notice in the pre show package, even the pre show package for her is different because the pre show package, her mark, her. Her pro is talking to her like she's another pro.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, he's. There was no smiles. There's no anything. He's like, no, no, no, no. All right. No, your turn here. And she's like, yeah, I know. And he's like, yeah, you do it backwards. It's gonna look. It's gonna look strange. Like he's talking to her like another professional dancer.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

You know, you see the pack, the pre show package with her and the pre show package with Andy, they're very different things.

[Ryder Strong]

Completely different conversation. Completely different conversation. Will my knees hold up today? Right. I'm so curious how that's resonating with the fans of the show, you know? Cause obviously people keep voting Andy to stay, right? Sure. So clearly the voting public is voting not just on their dancing ability, but on their personality, on their presentation or their choreography choices or storytelling, whatever it is that we're, you know, And I just wonder, I mean, like, does she have an army of fans out there? TikTok fans who already, you know, I don't know. Like. And how does that number compare to, like, Danielle Fischl's, you know, popularity? Like. Cause I have no concept when people tell me that, like, something gets 10 million downloads or somebody has a.11 million followers. Like, that's a. That's a scale that my brain just like, what is that? What does that translate to with something like this? Do you know what I mean? I understand what that translates to in terms of when they post a video, how many people watch it, but what does that translate to in terms of, like, your. Yeah, yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

People like that. In this context, I think the finals.

[Will Friedle]

Are going to be between Robert and her, and I think it's going to come down to does somebody want to vote for the professional dancer or somebody want to vote for the guy? But again, it's not like Robert had never danced a day in his life. He's obviously been preparing for this.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. He watched his sister win when he was, what, exactly 12 or whatever.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And he was probably like, okay, yeah, I could do that someday, right? Yeah. So plus watching, I mean, just. He's probably because of his sister, understands ballroom dancing, has seen it. Having watched the show back then, like.

[Will Friedle]

You know, I'm so curious if he trained for this at all, where it was, like, by the time he was.

[Ryder Strong]

How old are these. We're talking about the two of the youngest competitors in the show, so.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Is that a coincidence? Like, of course not. Like, when you're 19 through 25, Whitney.

[Will Friedle]

Is 32 and Robert is 21.

[Ryder Strong]

Okay, never mind. I take that back. I didn't realize Whitney was. I thought she was. I didn't think it was great for 32.

[Will Friedle]

I would have said she was 24. 25. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

But, yes, it's. It helps when you're younger. It certainly does.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, my God. You see that?

[Will Friedle]

Yes. Oh, wait, what did they get?

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, you're right. Oh, there were scores through the roof. This was 10, 9, 10 and 10.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. First tens ever.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. And I think. I think it's just because this. This was really advanced technically. Like, I think the quick step was just freaking hard.

[Will Friedle]

And they were really. And they did it well.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. So I think the judges are just like, on.

[Will Friedle]

On.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, you can't. Because in terms of, like, expressibility or, like, storytelling through dance, like, nothing beats last week. That happened this week for me.

[Will Friedle]

No, but agreed.

[Ryder Strong]

But. But we didn't get, like, any tens. I don't think if there was a single 10. Right. Last week, so. Which is just. I. Yeah. So again, it was. Funny thing.

[Will Friedle]

You wonder if the judges talk about it beforehand, because if you go back and watch Derek's face when she pulls the 10, the face is either. Wow. That wasn't a 10 or. Wow. We talked about not pulling tens this week. Wow. It was one of those faces because he was like, wow.

[Ryder Strong]

When he saw Carrie Anne pull out. Correct.

[Will Friedle]

When she pulled a 10, he was like. He gave this face, like, whoa. Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

It just seems like she's kind of on her own.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. It doesn't.

[Ryder Strong]

You know what I mean? Which is interesting, like, because they're all supposed to be kind of be on their own, but it seems like Bruno and Derek are much more in line.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Or like, understand where each other are coming from in a way that I feels like Carrie. It's a little out of left field. Like, they're always like, oh, okay.

[Will Friedle]

It also felt a little bit this week. And we. We hopped. We heaped on with that myself mostly where it felt a little bit this week like she had been reading her own press and people were bashing. And, man, she was nice to everybody.

[Ryder Strong]

Everybody.

[Will Friedle]

It was like, oh, my God, you're my long lost sister. Like, it was like the. Like, you couldn't. She couldn't have been nicer this week.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

With her. With her praise. So, yeah, I think she. She overcorrected a little bit. This poor woman, she can't win for trying.

[Ryder Strong]

I know, man.

[Will Friedle]

You know, we're gonna bash her for being too harsh and bash her for. Yeah. Being too friendly.

[Ryder Strong]

Your job is to judge, you know? And then people are like, how dare you judge? You're so judgmental. Like, literally what I'm paid to be here for. Yep.

[Will Friedle]

This poor woman. I feel bad. I'm hopping off the bandwagon. I feel bad. I feel bad.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I really.

[Ryder Strong]

The way she flies around. It's like she's being pulled by strings from above or lifted from. I just don't understand how she gets from like one side of his body to the other side of his body.

[Will Friedle]

Like he's a pole.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

And it's like. And it's.

[Ryder Strong]

But it's never feels like effort. Do you know what I mean? Like it's this crazy. It's like her body becomes a flame flickering around or something. It's so. It's so impressive. I just don't. I've just never seen anything like it. Well, I did think that this was a step back from last week.

[Will Friedle]

I thought last week 100%. I did not think he was as good this week. He felt a little clunky.

[Ryder Strong]

Yep.

[Will Friedle]

And was this the. Derek gave one of the best comments I've heard since the show started.

[Ryder Strong]

What more something about his hips? No, no, no.

[Will Friedle]

But again, I didn't. I don't know if it was here or if it was somebody else, but it worked here where he said a dance is like a story where it's not individual sentences. It's. The entire story has to flow so you're not finishing a sentence and then moving on to the next one. And when you. When I thought about it in those terms, it makes. Made such sense. And I couldn't remember if it was this one because that's the feeling that.

[Ryder Strong]

In response to Scott.

[Will Friedle]

In the beginning, it might have been Scott. It could have been Scott.

[Ryder Strong]

He was talking about his transitions.

[Will Friedle]

That same kind of feeling with this one where it felt a little bit like he was. He was just more clunky this. This week than he had been before.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, it's so funny because they said in the pre show or the pre dance package that the la. The fact that it was a Latin dance made him nervous.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Which I hadn't really thought about, but. Right. There's like a different rhythm and style to that. And he does seem more uncomfortable with that because when I think about the first week when he first came out, it was like, oh, this guy's okay. But you know, and. And he's gotten so much more comfortable. But then. Yeah, it just felt a little like.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Well, he talked about. I think one of the things that made him so uncomfortable was the sexiness of it weird where it's like he said that he's like, the romantic thing is not really me. So I wonder if he. If that's what was getting him out of his head. Where it's like, you've got to. I imagine for a dancer, like two true dance partners when they're on the floor, you can't tell whether they're actually sleeping together in real life or not. You know what I mean? It's like they're lovers when they're on the dance floor. And so if you can't get out of your head about that, to be like, okay, I gotta. That this is my. My partner, then maybe it's a tough thing. I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, that's too bad because you do. I mean. Cause like he clearly got out of his head last week when he was dancing for his sister. Right?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

So you're right. Maybe when he. Maybe he just needs to take all that out, you know, and like the. It's not about looking sexy or looking cool because I think that's the worst. That's the death of any dancer. Right, right. That's self consciousness. So whatever brings self consciousness, take it away. Oh, it's gotta be so hard. I would be the worst.

[Will Friedle]

That's exactly. I was thinking the same thing last night. I was like, this is why I can't do. Would never be able to do the show. I would never be able to just let go. I couldn't do it. I'd be so self conscious.

[Ryder Strong]

But if it was a comedy routine, like imagine if you were hired to be a character for a season of Dancing with the Stars.

[Will Friedle]

That's different.

[Ryder Strong]

You would kill it.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, that's it.

[Ryder Strong]

I know. Think about it. Isn't that weird though? Like you mentally, if you were like, oh, I'm going to play Eric Matthews going on Dancing with the Stars. I mean, I know right now just me saying that sentence gave you like four dance moves you want to do.

[Will Friedle]

Of course.

[Ryder Strong]

Right. And you would kill it. And physically you would commit in a way that would be so funny and so great. And probably just as physically challenging as trying to really dance as Will Friedle and. But it's so. It's just the actor thing in you. Like you would commit.

[Will Friedle]

When I sir with Love on the show, they sent me to somebody singing and when I was actually trying to sing it, I was so self conscious. And then he said the same thing. He's like, well, sing it as your character. And I was like, oh, that's perfect. Done. So. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And you're never worried about it again?

[Will Friedle]

No. God, no. Right, and hit all the notes.

[Ryder Strong]

And hit all the notes. Right, exactly.

[Will Friedle]

So that's the thing. It's, you know, that's. You're right.

[Ryder Strong]

You're right. You just got to get. Yeah, you just have to get in the character, man. You just have to look at it all as a, as an acting exercise, you know, like.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, that would be rough though. But yeah, it felt like he was way more. You're right. Took a step back self conscious wise this week, I thought. And didn't they get all eights?

[Ryder Strong]

All eights?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Fair.

[Ryder Strong]

I thought it did seem fair, but I'm, I'm bummed. I didn't want them. I don't want them to go. I want these guys to be like top three.

[Will Friedle]

I think they will be.

[Ryder Strong]

I hope so. It's getting less and less likely though, because the competition is so fierce.

[Will Friedle]

It's really stiff. Yeah, it's really stiff.

[Ryder Strong]

All right, next up, Andy and Emma. And I just, you know, I love that Andy's just like, I'm still here.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Can you believe this? I do not love him. Yeah. You know, none of us can believe it, dude. But we still, like, it's true. Yeah. You know, like, yeah, it. I, you know, a criticism of Dancing with the Stars as a show. I do find these pre show packages to be somewhat personality less A lot of the time. Like they focus on like the dance themselves or how hard it's going to be. And like, I just like, Andy shines through because he is a comedian. He is. He has so much personality. But I really wish that the producers of the show or the directors of the show would give us a little more uniqueness about each person. It's interesting that they don't. Do you know what I mean? Like, I mean, obviously I think that's why I liked last week is because we finally got a little glimpse into someone else from their life. But yeah, sometimes it's just. It strikes me as a little bland. I'm always kind of like I said when we watched the Disney one, I was like, everybody tells the same story about Disneyland. Really? This is what we're going to talk about. But I guess, you know, are the.

[Will Friedle]

Pre show packages getting longer as they're chasing people off or the dance is getting longer or both? I think it's both.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't, I, I don't think the dances are getting longer because I'm surprised by how short they are.

[Will Friedle]

You think they're still a minute interesting?

[Ryder Strong]

Maybe they don't feel longer to me. Every time I'm like, oh, that was that. You know, it doesn't. It doesn't feel like it's getting more intense.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

So I don't know.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

All right. They danced jazz to one short day. You know, this is. I just feel like you can only go so far.

[Will Friedle]

Well, that's my question is. He's awesome. We love him. He's so much fun to watch. When is it time to go next week? When? Yeah, when do you go, dude, you've done better than anyone thought you were going to do. You're so personable. Oh, my God. You're going to be a special correspondent to Dancing with the Stars for the next five seasons. Your personality is amazing. But now we're gonna concentrate more on the dance, and we're at the halfway point, and now it's. Now it might be time for you to go.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Because if real. If quote unquote, real dancers and people that have really progressed start getting kicked off so Andy can stay because we like him, it's another kind of red flag for the show a little bit for me.

[Ryder Strong]

That's interesting. Right. But do you feel that way about Scott?

[Will Friedle]

No. No. I thought this was. Cause I thought Scott had not progressed enough. Andy is progressing, and I think a lot of it, they touched on this last time. And as somebody who's had weight problems my entire life or can fluctuate in weight quite a bit, he's lost a ton of weight, and that's going to help every aspect of his body. You know, it's going to help his knees. It's going to help his legs. It's good. We're seeing that he can move easier when you drop weight, you just can't. So it's one of those things where he is progressing. So I think this was the right call for who went home this week. Yeah. But now we're to the point where you'd really have to justify why you'd kick somebody else off over Andy.

[Ryder Strong]

Right, right. It was interesting. During the judging, Carrie Ann said this thing that dance is for everyone is the theme of this show. And I was like, oh, is it okay? I was like, that was. I feel like that's, you know, going back to the discussion we've been having since week one. I feel like that's the theme for half of this show.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

You know, because there are the people that you're just like, oh, everybody's getting better. Everybody's learning how to dance. And no matter who you are, no matter what your background, you have a shot at, you know, dancing. And I feel like Andy is that part of the show. I mean, he's just the.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, it's a weird way though, getting this far in. I kind of missed Corey Feldman last night.

[Will Friedle]

Did you think Feldman would have killed it last night?

[Ryder Strong]

No, I just like, miss a little more randomness. A little more like, up and down excitement of like, who's, you know, I don't know. Like, I suddenly was like. Because at the time I remember being like, yeah, he doesn't belong as. You know, And. And I think. But I in general, like, it feels like so much of this cast is just really good dancers.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

Their personalities are totally likable and fine. They're. They got their pre dance packages that are just fine. Like I said, a little bland. Right. And. And then you have somebody like Andy who's like, you know, got the personality. I was like, we could have a whole season of just Andy's dancing against each other.

[Will Friedle]

Do you know what I mean?

[Ryder Strong]

Like, Corey, they should do that. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I thought the same thing.

[Ryder Strong]

And I'm sure there have been seasons like that, but this season seems a little rigged with like 80% actually great dancers who are not gonna really, like, have weird personalities or make mistakes in like some crazy way. And then like. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

It's just.

[Will Friedle]

I agree. I thought the same thing. If they do a season of people like me who said, I've never danced, I can't dance, no one can teach me how to dance. That's a fun season of a show.

[Ryder Strong]

To watch for me. So fun. Well, it's just commitment. Right? Commitment is the point. And like, that's what. That's what we're celebrating with, like, Andy is his commitment.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, going forward.

[Will Friedle]

And when he's in with a whole group of people and they're all there at the end and he's one of 10 people kind of doing these basic moves. He was fine. You know, it was one of those things where it was like. It was. It was.

[Ryder Strong]

If the.

[Will Friedle]

The goal is to entertain you, he'll win every week. If the goal is to dance, it might be time that we say goodbye to Andy and. And we talk about this because being on Dancing with this is one of the jokes of getting you on the show. Being on Dancing with Stars and doing the work and dancing and doing the show is only one part of the job. The other part is this social media blitz that they have to do all the time. So you are, you're, you're reaching out to your, your people and it's like, vote for me, vote for me, vote for me. It's, it's so strange. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Honestly, if I could do Dancing with the Stars and take that out of the equation, like in other words, never have to do an interview outside of.

[Will Friedle]

The show, it'd be easier to do.

[Ryder Strong]

That is like way, like I can wrap my head around that. But you're exactly right. Like that other 50% of the equation is the part that scares me the most and makes me the most uncomfortable. Wow.

[Will Friedle]

Terrible.

[Ryder Strong]

Andy and Emma got 7, 6, 7, 7. Which seemed kind and fun.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. So they're being, they're being. But again also fair. If everybody's being bumped up just to kind of be bumped up, then he's better than he was when he was getting all sixes. So he. Yes, I, I could see the sevens.

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Ryder Strong]

Elaine and Alan came out. They danced contemporary to Defying Gravity. I thought this was one of her best of the whole season.

[Will Friedle]

I did, too. But I have a question, and it's just a question. I watched it twice and I timed it the second time.

[Ryder Strong]

I think I know what you're gonna say.

[Will Friedle]

For 30 seconds of the dance, she's not dancing. She doesn't dance.

[Ryder Strong]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

She goes onto this big rig thing. They cut to the professional male dancer who just sits there on camera as they then raise her up and she points the wand. Is that a cheat?

[Ryder Strong]

No. Because if you look at what she actually did before then, it was well, well done.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. She danced half her dance.

[Ryder Strong]

I had the same thought, man. I honestly, I was like, oh, where'd she go? She's not dancing half of this dance. Why are we watching other people? But then it was such a good show stopping moment to have her elevated and. Yeah, but no, she's not.

[Will Friedle]

Why not?

[Ryder Strong]

Even when she's on the platform, she's not dancing.

[Will Friedle]

That's what I mean. Why not do that with Andy every week? Have him do a couple of steps and then throw him somewhere where he gets to act funny in front of a thing?

[Ryder Strong]

I think because she's earned. Because what she did last week, I feel like she's earned. She's proven that she commits to the dancing, the technical dancing side. Physically, she's doing that.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

So I think instead, especially with a, you know, an actor background coming into a musical theater themed week, I think they just took the risk of like, let's just blow. Let's just blow everybody away at the greatest show. Like the greatest show.

[Will Friedle]

Let's do visuals.

[Ryder Strong]

And I, I, I think they pulled it off, like, because I think she's earned it. Like, I think if Andy had done this, you'd be like, dude, you still haven't quite shown that you can actually just do the dancing side where she's done the dancing. So now she's just making it the best show she can.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I get that's fair. I mean, that's, that's, I think that's a fair assessment. But I was, I thought about it. I was like, this is like a minute long and 30 seconds of it. She wasn't dancing again. I'm not, I'm not bashing her. I just asked the question.

[Ryder Strong]

Since we've been talking, I realized they got the same score as Danielle and that kind of bums me out.

[Will Friedle]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, that. Because when I think about it in comparison to how. How hard Danielle was actually technically dancing the entire time that I, She. She probably should have gotten an eight. I agree. Nine across the board seems way too high. Great show. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Didn't dance half of the show, so again, I really like her. I like her story. Her journey has been one of my favorite ones to watch, so, you know, I get it. But, you know, it's like, hey, for half of my song for American Idol, I'm not going to sing.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Would people have been like, you didn't sing half of your song? Of course they would.

[Ryder Strong]

But the half you did sing, it was great.

[Will Friedle]

It's a judger on that half.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, I think. I think dropping a point or two from a couple judges, again, same squad. I also wonder how much they were just blown away in the room, you know, because.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, I'm sure. Well, that's one of the things.

[Ryder Strong]

Somebody suddenly up in the air and. Yeah, all the smoke and I mean, I'm sure it was just like, oh, my God, they did it. And like.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, that's one of the things sue and I were talking about was this would have been a fun week to be on the stage to see how they're doing everything. This would have been really, really cool.

[Ryder Strong]

All right, next up, Jen and. Jen and Yan. I feel like she's struggling a little bit.

[Will Friedle]

I agree. I. Again, it's such a horrible thing to say. She seems so lovely and I. Every week she pops up, I'm like, oh, that's right.

[Ryder Strong]

It just kind of.

[Will Friedle]

She just blends in a bit. And she seems such, like, so lovely and so nice and it seems like she's working really hard, but she's just kind of there.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. I don't think she's. She's gonna last very, very long.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Now, question going back to our original conversation. Would you. Let's say everything played out plays out next week. Exactly like it plays out played out this week. Would you think it would be justified to get rid of her before Andy?

[Ryder Strong]

No, not in this field. I agree. I feel in this. This is a. This is a season. I mean, I can imagine a season, like I said, where it is more about personality and progress as. As dancers, in which case Andy's killing it. It would be so much fun to see in a field of people like that, but in a field with, like, really good dancers at this point and people physically just upping their game like, he. He can only go so far and it's unfair to her at this point to be judged for a Personality contest when it's not supposed to be. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's not a popularity contest necessarily. It's half of that, and the other half should be that she's really dancing. And.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I agree 100%.

[Ryder Strong]

So they did the foxtrot to as long as you are mine.

[Will Friedle]

Did you like any. Did you like the music? Did anything really stick out with you where you're like, man, killer song?

[Ryder Strong]

No. You know, the thing about musicals for me, I really like. I don't listen to them out. Out of context at all. Like, I really like them in the story. Like, when I'm watching a thing and I see the song as part of the story, I like it, but I don't then go. Except for, like, the classics like Les Mis and, you know, those I'll listen to.

[Will Friedle]

I had Hamilton on. On a loop in my house.

[Ryder Strong]

Did you? 3 Stephen Hamilton, even Hamilton. Like, I think there was, like, one or two songs I like to listen to, but then, you know. Yeah, I don't choose. But, yeah, out of context. I wasn't really listening to the lyrics of these, and I wasn't really thinking about. So I just want to. I just want to go watch them.

[Will Friedle]

That Defying gravity song was really good.

[Ryder Strong]

But I think that was a good one.

[Will Friedle]

Big one. I think that's. That's where they. And I. And I thought it was such a big song and a breakout song that. That's what. That's why they had them do the opening number to it, because then they weren't gonna let anybody else use it. Where it's like, hey, it's not fair if one of you gets this big song. But then it was a lane song, so I was like, oh, okay. Then I guess they did let the music. Oh, I guess the opening number was a melody. Was a medley.

[Ryder Strong]

Medley, like.

[Will Friedle]

Like a vegetable medley. I get it.

[Ryder Strong]

I thought Jen really hurt herself at the ending of this dance. Do you remember it? Where she, like, walked and turned and turned.

[Will Friedle]

She walks away from him, like, at, like, 30ft and then turns and looks at the camera.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, I was like, what? I was like, wait. I was like, it just. It just didn't land. And I was like, ooh. And partly. I think that that was kind of like an actory moment. Do you know what I mean? And she's not an actor.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Take your beat.

[Will Friedle]

Take your moment. Take your stage. And it would be like.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, it didn't work. It didn't work, and it didn't land heavy enough. So I thought Thought that was a poor choice in terms of choreography to. To. To put the pressure on her for that particular type of.

[Will Friedle]

Completely agree with you.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, they got eights, which seemed fair.

[Will Friedle]

I would say that was fair. Yeah, I would. I would this week put her on par with Dylan Efron. I thought they were right kind of there so that, yes, the scoring made sense to me where they. They all got eights, but.

[Ryder Strong]

Whereas he was a little bit of a downgrade from last week. And I thought she was an improvement from last week.

[Will Friedle]

I don't disagree with that either. So they kind of still just. Still just kind of there.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. That's too bad. All right, next up, someone named Danielle.

[Will Friedle]

Fischl N. This lady.

[Ryder Strong]

This lady Topio.

[Will Friedle]

That was her character, Topagio, something like that. She played Topagi on Family Matters, on Step by Matters. What can you say?

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, dude, I was so happy. I was just so happy because I was like, you know, like, I already said, like, I just last week I was like, is this the right strategy for Danielle? Like, I feel like she still needs to like showcase a. That she can do this, this hard dancing, but also just bring her another side of her personality. And this was it.

[Will Friedle]

It was.

[Ryder Strong]

It was like both technically insane. I can't believe with her injured leg, she's doing this crap. But then also, it had so much personality and so much like just a. A cool, sexy vibe to it.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. She also looked phenomenal.

[Ryder Strong]

She looked amazing. Seem like six feet long. Like, what the heck was six feet.

[Will Friedle]

Long and shredded muscle?

[Ryder Strong]

This is. This is a tiny woman.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

She is one of the smallest people I've ever like.

[Will Friedle]

You know, you just beautiful.

[Ryder Strong]

But you would never call her long legged.

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Ryder Strong]

You would never call her leggy. Right. And yet I was watching this. I was like, where's did these legs come from? They looked like cyber connections. Like, you know, it was amazing. And she was moving them perfectly. I was just so impressed. I was.

[Will Friedle]

It was. This was. Oh, this was such a great.

[Ryder Strong]

The way she kept doing the little kicks and like the. There was like. I just was. And yeah, I thought, dude.

[Will Friedle]

My parents called me from a three hour advance having seen the show, like, oh, my God, wait till you see Danielle.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's.

[Will Friedle]

She was so good. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, I was really. I mean, I. I know we like joke about like, how, like, oh, we knew Danielle's the star of the show or whatever, but this did surprise me. Like, I was like, oh, like, I knew she. I hoped she could up her game, but I was like, oh, she Actually can.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Ryder Strong]

There's no limit here. Like, she's going to. She has a shot at winning this thing and like. Or being in the top five. Top three, at least I think so. I was just like, damn. Like, you are my favorite dance of.

[Will Friedle]

Hers by far, and the best one she's done since her first night.

[Ryder Strong]

I think, personally, I completely agree.

[Will Friedle]

She just.

[Ryder Strong]

I feel rushed it.

[Will Friedle]

She. She arguably, to me. And again, we talk about our. How we're biased, but she, arguably, to me, all things being considered, was dance of the night.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

[Will Friedle]

It was just. It was great.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. So fun to see.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, wait, what did she get?

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, nines.

[Will Friedle]

Nines. Her first nine. And she was ecstatic when she got four nines. And second, this is where, of course, Ryder, we always do Will's History of Dance. Thank you. Hit all the notes again. You can tell. So.

[Ryder Strong]

Argentine tango. Tell me about it. I bet it's from Argentina.

[Will Friedle]

Strange enough, it's not what it was. Born in Buenos Aires. No, it's what it says. I mean, it's what I know. A partner dance born in Buenos Aires that combines Spanish, Creole, and African influences. It is characterized by mark rhythms, dramatic pauses, and close embrace. While there are no notable Argentine dances like the folk dance zamba, and the carnival street performance La Merga, the term typically brings to mind the passionate and complex movements of the tango. So there you go.

[Ryder Strong]

It was a complex dance. It was cool.

[Will Friedle]

The ending where they're, like, holding her down and she's like, in this weird position. Super cool. Yeah, this was. This was great. And the only note that she got I didn't disagree with where it didn't look like she was breathing a lot. But that's. I mean, she's like. She didn't have time to. So, yeah, it was great. Great. So, all right.

[Ryder Strong]

We went on to Jordan and Ezra. Your faves.

[Will Friedle]

Your faves.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, man. Oh, my God, I just love her.

[Will Friedle]

What a way to close.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, I thought this. They did the rumba to for good. Another song from the musical. I don't know. But, yeah, I feel like her personality is really coming through even more. And she's just physically amazing, right?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, she's incredible. We've talked about the control that she has over her body, which is something she's obviously been studying with gymnastics since she was a kid. But it's. Yeah, she's. It's. She's one of those people that kind of seems like if she wanted to, she could go off and become a professional dancer.

[Ryder Strong]

Right, right. 10, 9, 10 and 10, which Derek's.

[Will Friedle]

Still not given tens. Derek is not given tens. He hasn't given one out yet. So he's holding back. Yeah. And then.

[Ryder Strong]

So this tied with Whitney and Marcus. The best or the. The highest score of the night?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm so curious how she's doing, votes wise.

[Will Friedle]

I was thinking the same thing. Because she doesn't, does she? I mean, again, I know that gymnastics is hugely. Is a hugely popular sport and I think they have a big. A big community around gymnastics and cheerleading and stuff like that, which I think would all kind of be in the same realm. I know people say no, but I think it is. So I don't know either. You wonder what her fan base is like.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't. I don't think she plays to the personality game as much either. Do you know what I mean? Like, she. You can tell that she's like, here for the dancing. Here's for that part of this.

[Will Friedle]

Well, she's a competitor. I mean, she's a born competitor.

[Ryder Strong]

That's what I mean. She's much more of like an athlete in terms of like, you know, so she. I don't think she cares as much about, like, agreed. You know, smiling for camera, letting everybody. She's kind of like, if you like me, like me. If you don't, you don't. And I wonder how that's playing.

[Will Friedle]

It's a great question because she is. She's an athlete in a competition. She is here to win. That's. You put your game face on and you go and you win. And that's what she's been trained to do, that she's done at the highest level for 15 years, doing it.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, she's getting the highest scores. Yep. So she's doing something right. Yeah, but you're right. I have no idea. Like, I just. I just want a little like vote count or some kind of.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

They're. It's you smart, though, because if they did it would, you know.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It would probably take away some of the intrigue of the show. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Agreed. 100. But then you also get that are like, are we learned? Do we know everything we're supposed to know? So. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

All right. So we went into elimination and I had already called it in my household watching it, I was like, Scott.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, me too.

[Ryder Strong]

And it wasn't a surprise.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Right. But Andy seemed surprised and he's going.

[Will Friedle]

To be surprised every week.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

Because he's just. Can't believe he's still there no matter what. But yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And.

[Ryder Strong]

I could tell this was coming because he took a step back as a dancer this week and I'm sure popular voting wise, you know, I just don't know how big his band is, but I am mad.

[Will Friedle]

It's pretty big, but it's not. Yeah, yeah, it's not.

[Ryder Strong]

It's also. It's a band. It's not him. Do you know what I mean? Correct him as an individual. He's going to be probably less popular than a lot of the other people.

[Will Friedle]

I agree. 100.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And it just was a rough week. I mean, he. You could really tell he was kind of stumbling through it this week.

[Ryder Strong]

It wasn't.

[Will Friedle]

Wasn't great.

[Ryder Strong]

All right, that was our week six, Dancing with the Stars.

[Will Friedle]

Crazy, bro.

[Ryder Strong]

Half crazy. I know. I don't know. Like, I just feel like it becomes a different show every week now, you know, like, so. Yeah, you got a question for me?

[Will Friedle]

Of course I have a question for you. But at first, as we've learned from last week, as we talked about, oh.

[Ryder Strong]

I gotta take one away.

[Will Friedle]

Well, let's see. So this is the strong incentive, ladies and gentlemen. The strong incentive is of course, what it would take to get Rider Strong to join Dancing with the Stars. As we learned last week for the first time, indifference has consequence. And so not making a decision is a decision unto itself. And so, Ryder, this week, once again, I'm going to need you to pick a random number between 1 and 4.

[Ryder Strong]

1.

[Will Friedle]

I'd like to point out, I don't know these either. I wrote something on one side, flipped them over, shuffled them up and put the numbers on the front so I don't know what it is until I flip it over. You picked one. And so this week you have lost the sprinter van. The sprinter van is no longer on the table. So.

[Ryder Strong]

So what's on the table? We got leather jacket.

[Will Friedle]

Well, I was gonna say. So we had it set up where you originally got 500 grand, a sprinter van, the Sean's original leather jacket OG Magic cards, plus a black lotus card and the deed to Coffeecats opening again in Sebastopol. The 500 grand is now gone and the sprinter van is now gone. So what is left is your leather jackets, the magic cards with the black lotus and the deed to Coffeecats.

[Ryder Strong]

All the personal ones.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, pretty much. But you're actually saved this week because that same sprinter van company calls you and said, hey, Ryder Strong, because you answered your landline. You still have a landline, by the way, in your house. So the phone rings, pick it up, you hear KL5, 4000. Sprinter Van Company. And the Sprinter Van Company says to you, hey, we heard you didn't like our original Sprinter van that we were going to send you. We're going to let you pick whatever Sprinter van you want. However, it's not going to be here in the United States. It's going to be for your one year, all expenses paid. Life in New Zealand.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, my God.

[Will Friedle]

Everything is taken care of. Your home here will be taken care of. Indy's education will be taken care of. And you get to live in whatever Sprinter van you would like in New Zealand. All expenses paid for one year. If you'd only do Dancing with the.

[Ryder Strong]

Stars, Yes, I would do it.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, my God.

[Ryder Strong]

You didn't even think about it. That's too good, man.

[Will Friedle]

Because I.

[Ryder Strong]

If I think about doing Dancing with the Stars, knowing that for a year, I'm going to be with my family, traveling and have enough comfort and security to be able to do writing and get, like, my own creative projects done in a beautiful place, exploring the world.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes, I would do it.

[Will Friedle]

Wow. So Rider Strong is on Dancing with the Stars.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes. All I have to. Somebody has to do is pay for a year of my life in New Zealand in a camper van. Give me coffee, cats. That's still on the table.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. And your magic.

[Ryder Strong]

So I get to come home and own a piece of, like, my childhood? Yes. It's too good, dude. And I get the leather jacket. Yep, you got me.

[Will Friedle]

All right, well, we made it halfway through. The strong incentive is done. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, dude, that's. That is. It's, like, literally my dream to be able to, you know, live somewhere else and camp and with my family. And if it was all, like, taken care of and there was no pressure, I would totally commit to. Wow. Whatever. Three months of absolute misery. I mean, three months of pure, just awfulness. I mean, the thing is, I'd probably get eliminated pretty quickly because you don't know that A. If you committed, I'd be such a downer. Stick in the mud.

[Will Friedle]

Unless you committed to the dance, dude.

[Ryder Strong]

Give this guy a. I would. I mean, I would try. Honestly, with the dancing, I would try, and I'd want to get in shape and, like. But it would be awful. No one wants to see me dance. No one wants that.

[Will Friedle]

I know. People hearing me saying, no one wants.

[Ryder Strong]

To see that either.

[Will Friedle]

All right, well, I got you. I'm gonna have to come up with a new game now.

[Ryder Strong]

I know, man. We're going to. But that's too good. Like, I can't turn that down.

[Will Friedle]

I figured you were gonna say no to this one, but the yes, the one I had saved for an absolute yes, was gonna be a three picture deal at Warner Brothers. To do any of your own films that you want to do.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, I should have waited. God damn it. Yes. Yes. To be able, like to direct. You mean, like. Yeah, right.

[Will Friedle]

And direct any of your three films.

[Ryder Strong]

I would do anything for that. I would.

[Will Friedle]

I would. That's why that was gonna be my.

[Ryder Strong]

Last stars for the next six seasons. I would commit to that.

[Will Friedle]

I would do Bury me alive with the stars. The person who lasts the most underground to do three picture deal. All right, great. Well, the strong incentive is done. We got them week six. So I'm gonna have to come up with something new now. I'll come up with a new game for next week.

[Ryder Strong]

Amazing.

[Will Friedle]

We're gonna have to start dressing you up or doing your own pre show package or something. We'll figure something out.

[Ryder Strong]

All right, that's it for this episode of POD meets Twirl. Join us next week as we continue watching season 34 of Dancing with the Stars. We may not know a waltz from a waffle, but we know what we learned way back in Feeney's class. Daniel Fischl is the star of the show. Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fishel, Wilfred L. And Ryder Strong, executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Sugbash, producer Matty Moore, engineer and Boy Meets World superban Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram odmeatsworld show or email us at podmeatsworldshowmail.com.

[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

Cut the camera. They see us.

[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

This is an iHeart podcast.