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Will Friedle
This is an I Heart podcast.
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Ryder Strong
Okay, confession time. I tried to host a Friendsgiving last year with, let's say, questionable results.
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Will Friedle
Yes, we remember. You made mashed potatoes that somehow had the consistency of drywall.
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Ryder Strong
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Charlotte
Same I got a no antibiotics ever Turkey for just 149 a pound with prime and even snagged organic green beans and mushrooms for the casserole.
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Will Friedle
Now I'm hungry. I'm all about their frozen appetizers, Quiche trio, butterfly shrimp. It's like hosting with cheat codes.
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Ryder Strong
See Friendsgiving redemption arc in progress.
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Will Friedle
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Ryder Strong
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Charlotte
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Charlotte
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Charlotte
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Will Friedle
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Charlotte
Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.
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Will Friedle
Cut the camera. They see us.
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Charlotte
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Will Friedle
Welcome to POD meets twirled the Dancing with the Stars recap. Hosted by two guys who can't dance, don't want to dance, and have now seen nine episodes of Dancing with the Stars. But since our best friend Danielle joined the cast for 34, we're going all in. We are Will Friedle and Ryder Strong, AKA the two dudes standing next to Topanga, AKA Daniel Fishel's backup, AKA the Dan Yets. Hello, Will.
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Charlotte
Hello, Ryder.
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Will Friedle
How was our first episode with no Danielle? It was fine.
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Charlotte
You know, it's obviously, it's. It's lost a bit of its allure for me. I'm still in on trying to see who's gonna win, but I can detach myself from it more. I don't have the same anxiety watching the show. I'm not rooting for it as much as, I mean, our friend isn't on it anymore, so it's a little different.
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Will Friedle
I had a little interesting journey. I was not looking forward to this. I was really ready. Yeah. I was just like, you know, are we still doing this? Do I care about the show? And then I think this was my favorite episode of the season, really.
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Charlotte
Well, here's why.
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Will Friedle
First of all, it gave perspective on the rest, on the history of the show, which was so important for me because I've seen nothing.
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Charlotte
We don't know it.
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Will Friedle
Getting a sense of how deep this and how long this show goes. I was like, wow. And I really came to appreciate it. I loved the dances. I loved getting glimpses of the past, past dances and past competitors. I really enjoy. It was like an education in the history of Dancing with the Stars. And I don't know. Yeah, it gave me a sense of, like, continuity, gave me a lot of respect for all the figures of the show, all the judges. Like, I just. I just came to. I don't know. You know, it was like a little recap for me. And then I really thought the dancing was incredible this week.
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Charlotte
So, yeah, I liked it, I find. And again, I understand why they're doing this, especially for the 20th anniversary, but they really weighted into the cheese factor this. This week. I mean, it was heavy on the cheese this week of just, you know, the past and the people we've lost. And I get it. I mean, I understand it. I. But there's kind of like a self importance to it. Does that make sense where it's like, look what we've done in the history of Dancing with The stars. And I get it. And. And I know that it's been hugely important. And I loved seeing, like, young Derek Hough when he started dancing. And then that was incredible. Incredible how just a baby he looked like. And then seeing him to get into Len's seat, all that. Like, those journeys were really, really cool to watch. But it was. I find these same things with a lot of award shows, too. It's just. It's very melodramatic a lot of times for really not much reason.
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Will Friedle
But see, I like that. I guess I like the cheese. Because here's the thing. None of this matters, right? Just like the Oscars, none of this matters. Actually, what we're talking about is a seemingly meaningless thing. Art. Like, you know, it doesn't. Look, dance is not going to change the world in so many ways. So I find it really nice when show business leans into its importance and says, like, hey, actually, this. This is big, a big deal. These are human beings going through this. It matters. I like that because I. I feel that often, and I feel like Hollywood is superficial and gets this rep for being just. But it takes so much work to do these things. It takes so much energy. It does take people dedicating their lives to being a host on some random TV show that we're all watching that's getting huge ratings. So I tend to go the opposite. I'm like, because it's so meaningless, there's a need to say, hey, actually, you've been on this journey for a long time. If you're watching this right now, there's a reason you care about this, because people have dedicated their lives and their energies towards it and are still doing that. Let's appreciate that for a moment. If it was every week, I agree. But like, you know, once a year, when the Oscars come around, I'm excited. I'm like, yeah, man, let's. Let's hide. Highlight this. The effort. And, you know, because if we don't, it's not.
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Charlotte
You're not highlighting effort at the Oscars. You're not highlighting the effort. You're highlighting the people that are there. You're highlighting who. What dresses you're wearing and the four hours on the red carpet. Well, I don't care about self importance, but that's.
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Will Friedle
I don't care what the red carpet's about.
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Charlotte
You don't. But that's part of the. Of. Of the night. That's part of the glitter and the glamour. That's. And the pageantry. And to me, I've never liked that I've. I've never been into the pageantry of anything. To me, pageantry for pageantry sake is just like, let's see how big a thing we can produce and make a thing that's kind of important seem like it's really important. Like, oh, my God, who had the best supporting actor this year in a film they only made $20 million to do? And to me, I'm like, ugh. Like, I just don't care.
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Will Friedle
I mean, I think there's the other side of that coin, which is, you know, the sound mixer who has dedicated their entire life has the chance to win an award and get up on stage with their peers and say, what I do is important. So. So I agree.
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Charlotte
A lot of that is not that same night as the actors and everything. It's a night before that isn't even televised.
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Will Friedle
Well, sure, but, you know, I just think that in general, like, what the. I mean, I agree, like, I don't care about, like, the red car. I never watch any of that stuff. Like, who are you wearing? But the actual. The. The idea that the industry takes a moment to celebrate. Like, for me, the nominees are always the most important part, because who gets nominated tends to actually be. Because they're nominated from within their own discipline. Right? So, like, you know, actors nominate the actors. Sound mixers nominate the sound mix. Like, those professionals. It's a chance to recognize each other. And I tend to find that the nominees usually. I agree with. I'm usually like, those were the best of this year in film. And so I just think it's an opportunity to recognize, you know, hardworking people.
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Charlotte
No, again, I have no problem in recognizing hardworking people at all. I think it's amazing. I think recognizing the art is amazing, but I think, like, needless pageantry, it's like Miss Universe. I'm sure all those women have worked very hard to do that. Pageantry. I don't care. It's. To me, I just. The kind of. The glitter and glamour of things. For the sake of glitter and glamour have just. And it's a personal thing. Have never done it for me. I find it to be a little bit cheesy. I love the idea that they're doing, like, hey, here's the dancers that were part of the show that we've lost. That's. That's important stuff in saying that. But it just. Yeah, it's.
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Will Friedle
Well, in this case, not for me. Glitz and glamour is the whole thing.
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Charlotte
It's the show.
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Will Friedle
It's a dance show. It's the Part of the show, it's all about glitz and glamour. I thought, okay, let's get into the opening montage was, I thought, fantastic. Great. A great way to get a glimpse of seasons past. And then this opening dance number.
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Charlotte
Incredible. Incredible.
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Will Friedle
The pros dancing. I was just like, wow. And then to find out that Derek did the choreography, I was like, oh, that's why he's here. I.
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Charlotte
And also, apparently, he's won four Emmys for choreo for just for choreography.
- [10:06]
Will Friedle
This guy. Like, that was one of the greatest, like, dance numbers. I. The best dance number I've seen the pros do this season.
- [10:12]
Charlotte
That was incredible.
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Will Friedle
Oh, yeah. And then when they announced that he had done it, you know, and they gave him recognition after the fact, I was like, well, that makes sense why he's in the judge and seat. He is so good.
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Charlotte
He is.
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Will Friedle
He deserves so much credit because that choreography was astounding.
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Charlotte
And starting with the original dancers was a. Was a great way to start because, again, we don't know any of these people. We know we have. We're going in totally cold. So seeing all that. Yes. No, I loved all that stuff. I just. Some of it tonight got just a little heavy for me for. For what it is. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
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Will Friedle
All right, first dance up. Elaine and Alan doing a salsa. Lots of green.
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Charlotte
Lots of green. Lime green, Lime green everywhere.
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Will Friedle
This had such a 90s vibe to it. Yeah. Like, even with the squiggles and his shirt and, like, all of it. Yeah. I thought this was a really good move. Stylist. I felt like, you know, we've. Cause, like the last couple dance. I mean, obviously, she didn't dance two weeks ago. Last week was very conservative, I felt, and a little boring. This was really fun and showed that she can really dance. I was like, yeah, you.
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Charlotte
You are.
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Will Friedle
You know, of course, as the night went on, got blown out of the water by.
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Charlotte
Yeah, I thought it was okay. I like that it was high energy to start, but I thought the dance was just okay, frankly.
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Will Friedle
Really?
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Charlotte
Yeah, I did. I thought it was. I thought the outfits were a little much for me. And again, I love the. And it might also be, frankly, they might have been kind of screwed a little bit by coming right off of that giant dance number.
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Will Friedle
Yes, totally.
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Charlotte
Where we just saw this. The best. Arguably the best dancers in the world doing an incredibly choreographed thing to then.
- [11:52]
Will Friedle
This dance, which, again, I thought was okay, well. But something was interesting because they were doing homages to previous Dances. Right. What that meant is that stylistically, a lot of the dances felt out of touch or like you were watching them through the lens of, like, several years or maybe 10 years. And I kind of appreciated that because obviously, like, trends change, costumes change, lighting styles change. And like, if you're trying, like, so much of this show has been trying to be on the cutting edge of culture, like, trying to be cool and sexy or classy in a way that is interpreted through the lens of now, whereas because they doing homages to 10 years ago, 20 years ago, within the last 20, it ended up kind of having like, a sort of permission to be a little dated in a fun way. So, like this one, I was much. If this had just been presented as like, a contemporary, current cool dance, I was like, eh. But because it was through the lens of word, paying homage to a dance from years ago, and then the whole set and the style felt very dated to me, or, like, hokey in a way. It was fun. It was like, oh, cool. We're doing it through. We're in. We're investing in something that is a little cheesy, but we're just gonna go for it because it's, you know, an homage. I. I like that approach. The whole night, it made it made everything a little easier to swallow.
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Charlotte
For me, I thought it was. I thought there's an interesting. Because when we talked to Sharna last week, it was. She talked about how the dances are changing all the time, but at the same time, they still have to. To have some kind of tether to the original dance.
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Will Friedle
Yeah.
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Charlotte
So there's something interesting about that balance of. We want to make it look modern, but we still know that it has to be based on something from the 1800s that that shouldn't change.
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Will Friedle
Right.
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Charlotte
So I dig that, and I get that. I also think. And this is just my personal opinion, I think personally, Danielle did better several weeks than Elaine has. And so the fact that she's still there and Danielle's gone, I think I'm holding that personally against Elaine, which, again, is a stupid thing to do. It's not Elaine's fault that people have been voting for her, but I think that's one of the things where I'm kind of like, I still think Danielle was a better dancer than her, so maybe I'm looking for things wrong with it. But I thought that had this exact same dance been done last week or the week before, it would have been four eights.
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Will Friedle
Yeah. They got nines across the board. I was definitely like, really?
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Charlotte
Maybe.
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Will Friedle
Maybe A little. But I think we're at the stage in the competition where the scores are just through the roof.
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Charlotte
They are. I also liked how I did like how they came in high energy and they started high energy. You needed to. And so it was a good way to start the night. I will. I will say that.
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Will Friedle
Then we went on to Robert and Whitney in their pre show package. He talked about going to some event where Prince William was going to be there. So then he got a call from Prince William, like you do. Like you do.
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Charlotte
Talk to him yesterday.
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Will Friedle
Yeah, yeah. And then they. They went into their dance, which was an homage to his sister's dance and. And was very emotional in terms of its background and its meaning. I found the dance a little boring.
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Charlotte
I agree with you 100%.
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Will Friedle
It's good. I mean, obviously Robert can dance. Whitney's great. But I was like, okay. You know, and then, you know, when he broke down at the end, I.
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Charlotte
Was like, yeah, it's a little much now.
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Will Friedle
I know.
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Charlotte
I'm saying that it's a terrible thing to say because it's obviously about his family, which is hugely important to him. But this dance ended exactly the way the dedication night ended, except he was holding his sister's hand instead of his mother's hand. He's obviously Dancing with the Stars royalty. His father, hugely important in his life. Nobody's trying to take anything away from that. His dad seemed like an amazing guy. Everybody loved him, huge in his country. But it wasn't just that. To me, it's like at the end where he was voted through, he gets this expression on his face and like he jumps like he can't believe it happened when he knows he's going to be voted through.
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Will Friedle
Yeah.
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Charlotte
I don't know.
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Will Friedle
I mean, my, my, my hot take, which maybe isn't that hot, is that they really want Robert to win.
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Charlotte
Oh, no, everybody wants. I think everybody wants to.
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Will Friedle
No, I mean, the judges, the producer, the show wants Robert to win because this was a straight up nine dance to me. This was not a 10. And they gave it tens across the board. And then later when they do their relay thing. He did not deserve to win that.
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Charlotte
Thank you.
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Will Friedle
No. I feel like this was my first indication. I was like, okay, yeah, like, I get your. This is. There's a great story behind this dance. But let's just look at that dance. And when they gave it tens and the comments that they made, like, he was just the greatest, so obviously the greatest dancer that has ever graced us with his presence. I was like, Guys, he's already been great. He is great. Yeah. You're not holding him to the same standard of, like, you could do a little bit more. You could push yourself.
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Charlotte
Do you think they're going to give him a note? Do you think they're ever gonna say.
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Will Friedle
They didn't give him a note?
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Charlotte
They're never gonna do that. I have another hot take to add to that since we're talking about this. I also think because it's ABC and Hulu, they really want to keep Whitney around too, because Whitney is on their biggest thing right now, which is the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. It's like the biggest thing on the network. She got immunity this week from having to dance and got extra points the week before that.
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Will Friedle
She won, but her dance this week was insane. Dude.
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Charlotte
It was not dancing tonight, though. Oh, my God.
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Will Friedle
I, I mean, I'll go. Yeah, we. I, I like, I. But I feel like when they gave this all tens, I was like, oh, wow, this. And I think that they kind of screwed themselves because by giving this tens, they had to give tens across the board because the other dances were genuinely better than this one.
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Charlotte
Oh, and Mormon Wives, the new season apparently premiered this week.
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Will Friedle
Okay, well, I thought Whitney's dance was incredible. It was great. It was great.
- [17:38]
Charlotte
I'm not saying. But it's.
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Will Friedle
No, I think Robert and Whitney here were, like, good, but not tens. And so I. But I feel like the producers of the show, the judges of the show love him so much, they want him to win. They gave him tens, and then because of that had to be so many tens because it was like. Right.
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Charlotte
And we're not bashing on Robert. He seems like the most likable guy in the world. He's obviously working his butt off. He's very good at what he does.
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Will Friedle
Yep.
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Charlotte
But they clearly want this guy to win anything.
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Will Friedle
He's going to win.
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Charlotte
Yep.
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Ryder Strong
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Charlotte
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Will Friedle
All right, next up, we had Andy Richter and Emma Slater doing a quick step. Well, here we are, Andy still on the show.
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Charlotte
Yeah. And it just kind of is what it is with Andy.
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Will Friedle
I know. We'll talk about their relay dance later, which I thought was much better than this one.
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Charlotte
Yeah.
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Will Friedle
But again, because it's through the lens of this sort of like self conscious show, busy thing, putting on the Ritz. I thought it was fun.
- [25:19]
Charlotte
It was fun. All of his dances are fun. They're just not particularly good dances.
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Will Friedle
I know.
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Charlotte
So it's. I mean, she is working her ass off. His partner, he's working his butt off. Nobody, nobody is saying he's not.
- [25:31]
Will Friedle
I would actually, I would actually say this might have been one of his best dances.
- [25:34]
Charlotte
I don't disagree in terms of like.
- [25:36]
Will Friedle
His feet doing the things that they needed to do. I was like, oh, I didn't. Because when he first walked down the steps, I was like, he can't even walk down the stairs. He was walking down the stairs sideways and you could tell that he's like.
- [25:47]
Charlotte
Yeah, he's in pain.
- [25:48]
Will Friedle
Yes. And so I was like, oh, this is going to be a disaster. And then it wasn't. It was actually pretty damn good. And I don't. His red suit looked great. I was like, cool, man, you're doing it. I thought maybe he would get more eights than he did.
- [26:00]
Charlotte
I did too.
- [26:01]
Will Friedle
I did too. But yeah. Eight, seven. Seven, seven. My wife was watching and she was like, you know, we could have connected with her more like that. He was kind of doing his own thing and not necessarily connecting.
- [26:14]
Charlotte
I think he's probably trying to remember the dance and counting the steps in his head as she's saying things like six, seven, eight. I mean, I think he's got 900 things going on.
- [26:22]
Will Friedle
It's not effortless, right? No. Even this late in the game.
- [26:25]
Charlotte
And again, I think that's one of the reasons people kept voting for him is because, a, they saw there was some progress, and there clearly has been. You go and watch this and you watch his first dance, there has clearly been progress.
- [26:35]
Will Friedle
Yeah.
- [26:36]
Charlotte
But it's also the fact that, you know, he's working his butt off. Apparently. He's a TikTok machine where they're all just putting out these TikToks all the time. And so he's playing the game. And, you know, I don't fault him for it. It's not. Again, I don't blame any of the dancers. The dancers aren't voting for themselves.
- [26:51]
Will Friedle
Right.
- [26:52]
Charlotte
So, yeah.
- [26:53]
Will Friedle
There was this moment later in the show where Andy talked about what it was like being on the show and how it was like, all dancing and all TikTok videos, you know, and he gave Emma credit for pushing him in both arenas. And I had this, like, weird realization where I was like, oh, this show is now, like, 50% of it is the social media. Yeah.
- [27:17]
Charlotte
At least.
- [27:17]
Will Friedle
And, like, controlling that narrative and promoting yourself there, which is not part of what, like, I'm watching. Right. Like, I'm watching the season. I'm looking at just what's on the screen and. And what's being aired as part of this show. But that's not even really. That's half the show. The other half of the show is what these people are doing in social media and how they're forging their narratives and creating those stories.
- [27:38]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [27:38]
Will Friedle
And, like, Andy has obviously been doing really well at that, and apparently Emma is really good at coaching him in that arena as well. So I just thought that was super interesting that we're just at this point where a reality show like, this is not just the show. Barely any at all anymore. It's what's going on every week on their social media pages and their TikTok in particular. And I was just like, wow, this is a. It's a weird. It's a whole new media jungle out there.
- [28:04]
Charlotte
24 7.
- [28:05]
Will Friedle
Completely a part of.
- [28:06]
Charlotte
And I told you, I. I don't have an Instagram account. I have a Finsta account that I check occasionally. And I looked at one Dancing with the Stars thing, and now when I look at it, it's 900 people talking about Dancing with the Stars. And it's. I heard this rumor. I heard that rumor. Did you hear about this. And then it's the tiktoks that Andy does or the tiktoks that Danielle did. It's part of the job. It is 24 7.
- [28:24]
Will Friedle
Wow.
- [28:25]
Charlotte
Yeah. Crazy.
- [28:26]
Will Friedle
All right. They got eight. Seven, seven, seven.
- [28:28]
Charlotte
I could have seen another eight.
- [28:30]
Will Friedle
I. Yeah, me too. Guess doesn't really matter in the end, but at this point, I was like, wow, Is Andy gonna stick around another week?
- [28:39]
Charlotte
Oh, I thought he was gonna.
- [28:40]
Will Friedle
Especially after the relay. I was like, oh, the crowd's gonna love this.
- [28:44]
Charlotte
I thought he was gonna.
- [28:44]
Will Friedle
And we went into an in memoriam Oscar style. A dance going on in the foreground with some pros while the screen was showing people who had died. I was very relieved to realize that not everyone. They were listening. Had died this year. That took me a moment because at the Oscars, it's who died that year? And I was like, wait a minute. Suzanne Summers was this year. And I was like, just. And I was like, no, it's just people who have. That they've lost in the 20 year history of the show. Made a lot more sense. I was like, oh, my God, what a banner year for deaths. No, not the case. I thought this was really sweet.
- [29:21]
Charlotte
It was sweet.
- [29:22]
Will Friedle
After the In Memoriam, Dylan and Daniela bringing out the Argentine tango, my favorite dance, which made a couple appearances tonight.
- [29:31]
Charlotte
Thought about that. The second dimension.
- [29:32]
Will Friedle
I'm like, ryder's dance. Yep. Pasa doble kind of took over last week. And I was like, oh, that one's good. No, no, no. The Argentine tango back on top. Just kills. These people are so smart.
- [29:46]
Charlotte
Just in your mouth everywhere you go now. Just.
- [29:50]
Will Friedle
I love it so much.
- [29:52]
Charlotte
It was great.
- [29:53]
Will Friedle
This was insanely.
- [29:54]
Charlotte
This was dance of the night for me, too. This was dance of the night. They both just crushed it.
- [29:59]
Will Friedle
Oh, my God.
- [30:00]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [30:01]
Will Friedle
Her swimming move at the beginning where he's holding her up. The strength that it takes for him to hold her and the strength in her body to stay rigid. Plank like that while kicking your legs and make it believable and seamless and just crazy. Oh, my God. This was just so fun to watch. It was expressive. It was sexy. The connection is just, like, brilliant. And like, his ability to, like, be the sort of frame that she's throwing herself around. And of course, I still. She's the best dancer I've ever seen.
- [30:32]
Charlotte
You're right. She is.
- [30:33]
Will Friedle
She's the best dancer I've ever seen.
- [30:34]
Charlotte
She sealed it this week. She's the best.
- [30:36]
Will Friedle
Yes. And, like, he is rising to, like, be her partner. And, God, like, I. And this is where I. I felt like they went, oh, we shouldn't have give tens to rock because blew that out of the water. There's no way, if you give this tens that those were eights like that. This is, you know, this deserves 11.
- [30:55]
Charlotte
Or 12 different level. He also, to me, Dylan looked like. And I turned to sue halfway through, I was like, he looks like a 30s movie star.
- [31:02]
Will Friedle
Yes.
- [31:03]
Charlotte
Like, he looked like Errol Flynn up there kind of dance. It was really amazing. I mean, they. They're both perfectly. And I know this isn't right because she's a professional, but both perfectly cast.
- [31:12]
Will Friedle
Yes.
- [31:13]
Charlotte
As these two people going on this journey together, it's like you couldn't have put two people together. No one else could have done for him what she has done for him, dance wise. And he has stepped up every. And this was the first time I was like, oh, they both look like pros. They fully both look like pros tonight. Yeah. Dance of the night for me. He crushed it.
- [31:31]
Will Friedle
Yeah. It was incredible. So, yeah. 10, 10, 10, 10. Well deserved. Hell yes. Man, I hope these guys make it to the finale. It's a competition.
- [31:41]
Charlotte
Anybody can beat Robert. No, I don't either. I think it's already been predestined.
- [31:46]
Will Friedle
Yes. I mean, I think that the show itself is really making it hard for anybody to beat Robert, which, I mean, I'm so curious what the audience votes are because, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a little bit of backlash to that because it starts to feel like, oh, well, he's the obvious. And then people will stop voting for him just because they assume that he's getting all the votes and that might, you know, that might build up somebody else.
- [32:12]
Charlotte
I agree. And I was back east. Both Susan and I were back east last week and she was in Massachusetts. I was in Connecticut. We were both with our families and then we met up in the middle and wherever we went, we were talking about Dancing with the Stars. And just for the heck of it, I would start talking about Dancing with the Stars with the waiters or the wait staff or somebody who worked at a place. Wherever we were. I think of maybe the five people, six people I talked to, four of them watched the show regularly. All of them were voting for Robert. Wow. Every. Girls, boys, different ages.
- [32:44]
Will Friedle
All of them are like, oh, my God, Robert Irwin.
- [32:47]
Charlotte
I can't. I vote for Robert every week. Every single person was voting for Robert.
- [32:52]
Will Friedle
Wow. Okay.
- [32:53]
Charlotte
It's crazy.
- [32:54]
Will Friedle
Crazy. Then he probably will win. Yeah, it's crazy. All right, next up we had Jordan and Ezra doing the cha cha. Um, you know, I feel like she's in a tough position because she is doing so well, she is committing so hard, but I just don't feel like she's getting the support for the same, you know, in the same way. Um, but I thought, you know, their whole goal they talk about in the pre show was to try and be sexy and passionate in a way that she hasn't been able to showcase. And I thought she nailed it.
- [33:24]
Charlotte
I thought so too, frankly.
- [33:25]
Will Friedle
And I.
- [33:25]
Charlotte
It was a cool, it was a cool dance.
- [33:27]
Will Friedle
And I really appreciated Derek's feedback because what he was saying was like, we know you can do the athleticism, we know you can do the big moves, but what your journey and your growth has been is in texture and the way that you're learning to express things with your body. And I felt that and it was exactly what I was. I hadn't. I couldn't put it into words. And he put it into words and I'm so glad he gave her a 10 because I thought that if we're going to reward people for their personal journeys, if we're going to be giving Andy an 8 in a situation where he's clearly never gonna be more than a six or seven, than somebody like Jordan, who is athletically move wise doing tens, but also growing emotionally and expressively in ways that is not super easy for her, comfortable for her or immediate, we should reward that too. This is a person, this is her journey. And so, and to a point you.
- [34:20]
Charlotte
Were making before where you and I not fully disagree, I kind of agree about the pageantry a little bit, but you know me with that kind of stuff. But this was one of those times too where you saw how important Dancing with the Stars was to her.
- [34:35]
Will Friedle
Yeah.
- [34:35]
Charlotte
Because in her pre show package she's talking about like, as a kid, all she wanted to do was learn every Dancing with the Stars dance. Here's a girl who from the time are woman now, but when she was a girl, was probably already a top athlete at 7, 8 years old. But was she. She wanted to come home and do the dances with Dancing with the Stars.
- [34:55]
Will Friedle
Right.
- [34:55]
Charlotte
So I get the importance of the show. I really do. It's just for me, it's a little much, but I can see how for someone like her, it's the equivalent literally of I played Little League. I'm always saying, oh, I'm in my backyard holding a bat, going, it's bottom of the ninth, there's two outs, it's on Me, this is her, you know, World Series. She's been doing this since she was a little kid. And now you're on the biggest stage on Dancing with the Stars. You've made it, and you're trying to get as far as you can. I totally get that. And I get the journey and I get the importance. I just, It's a little much for me, but I get it.
- [35:29]
Will Friedle
All right. They got 9, 10, 9, and 9, which I guess that was fair.
- [35:36]
Charlotte
I, I could have seen two tens and two.
- [35:37]
Will Friedle
I was gonna say another ten felt deserved in this case.
- [35:41]
Charlotte
I could have seen. I could have seen Bruno giving her a.
- [35:43]
Will Friedle
How interesting. I, I was glad that they highlighted how they have to mark their scores before they speak. The judges. Yeah, I thought that was really. Because I wasn't quite clear on that.
- [35:54]
Charlotte
Oh, remember, did you hear early ones where they're like, remember we were at the show, the first show, and they're like, lock it in, lock it in. I think.
- [35:59]
Will Friedle
And that one person hadn't locked it in, I think. Or Bruno hadn't locked it. Yes, I, I, but it was really cool to. Because I, I, I started to think, like, aren't they influencing each other in their comments? And it's really nice to know that's not the case, that they're actually defending their scores or explaining their scores before those scores are revealed. Actually, that's what the judging is, is an opportunity to or an opportunity for. And it was also, I loved hearing we'll get into later when they do the flashbacks and they were talking about the judges and their role. I loved hearing how Derek still thinks of it as a teaching opportunity.
- [36:34]
Charlotte
Right.
- [36:35]
Will Friedle
He was like, you go from coaching somebody all season and having hours during their dance to only having 30 seconds to give feedback and teach them. I was like, that's so cool that he's looking at this as a teaching opportunity. And he's, he's so good, man.
- [36:48]
Charlotte
Well, that's why he was one of the best.
- [36:49]
Will Friedle
My respect for Derek went through the roof.
- [36:51]
Charlotte
Me too.
- [36:52]
Will Friedle
Because I tended to just sort of take him for granted, you know, I've always appreciated his comments, but I didn't know the history. I hadn't seen the history. I hadn't lived the history. And man, tonight really brought to talk.
- [37:01]
Charlotte
To him about his journey. But this is. You mentioned the scoring, so this is kind of an interesting time to talk about this. So Sasha Farber, who was one of the original, maybe not one of the OGs, but for years was one of the professional dancers. He did a Live Reddit last week where he kind of gets into the scoring system because we keep going back and forth on what the hell the scoring is. So I'm going to read a little bit of what was said and see if we can try to decipher any of it because a lot of it is very confusing. So it said after Bobby Bones, who was, we talked with Sharna, that was her partner who they won the whole thing and maybe shouldn't have. They talked about how that kind of changed the ranking system them. So if there are five contestants, you get one to five points based on where you're placed on the judge's score and then 1 to 5 based on where you sit, ranking based on ranking with the votes and then they combine the two. So it's not a percentage system. So then somebody else explained it how this is how the scoring system in the German version works and they think that this is the same, but they show it on a leaderboard. For example, five couples are left in the show. Couple one has three 30 jury points or the highest score of five points they would get ranking. Couple two is 28 points. So they'd get four points and so on and so on. So where you rank on the leaderboard, you either get a 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And then they do the same thing for percentage of votes that people call in. So you're five, four. So if you get the highest judges scores, you get a five and then you get the highest calling scores, you get a 5. So your 10 gets you through to the next week is I believe how they do it all. It sounds, it's confusing as hell, but I believe that's what they're doing.
- [38:48]
Will Friedle
No, that actually it's, it's, it's a way to really boil it down to like simple numbers, you know, so really quick, quick adding numbers. That makes sense actually. Okay.
- [38:57]
Charlotte
Yeah. And by the way, because we talk about this is a big week because Andy left and they were calling him the Bobby Bones of this season. And apparently you and I just heard from one of our producers as we came on that yesterday he came out saying he returned his mirror ball to ABC because of all the hate he was getting from winning the show, which.
- [39:20]
Will Friedle
Is kind of a strange move. Like, agreed, why not just say okay, but that, you know, he won fair and square by the rules that they set. I wouldn't feel the need to give that back.
- [39:30]
Charlotte
But again, he's not voting for himself a million times.
- [39:34]
Will Friedle
Right.
- [39:34]
Charlotte
Other people are voting for him. I agree with you 100% I wouldn't have given it back, but apparently, like.
- [39:39]
Will Friedle
No, I. I get it. Like, it's. But yeah, you. You want it fair and square, man. Like, you know, I also don't get.
- [39:45]
Charlotte
People going out of their way to give a former Dancing with the Stars champion hate for winning a show he doesn't vote for himself on.
- [39:54]
Will Friedle
Yeah, it seems. Well, but I guess he was promoting it a bunch on his own radio show or something like. That's.
- [39:59]
Charlotte
But isn't everybody doing that with all the tickets?
- [40:00]
Will Friedle
Whatever you got.
- [40:01]
Charlotte
I mean, that's.
- [40:02]
Will Friedle
Use whatever you got.
- [40:02]
Charlotte
That's your platform thing, isn't it?
- [40:04]
Will Friedle
I know. Promoting yourself. So.
- [40:06]
Charlotte
Yes, but that was the news, apparently.
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Will Friedle
All right, next up, Alex and Val doing the foxtrot to Singing in the Rain. I thought this was subdued and classy and freaking awesome.
- [45:12]
Charlotte
A thousand percent agree with you.
- [45:15]
Will Friedle
Right. Like, I love the old Hollywood sort of vibe. I love how they were dressed. Dude, just such a cool move, man. Like, cuz these two can do anything. Like they've clearly done so many different styles and, and, and energies and to do this was just perfect. It was like, wow. And again I'm going, you guys screwed yourselves with those Robert scores because they had to give this 10.
- [45:39]
Charlotte
Like you can't.
- [45:40]
Will Friedle
It doesn't compare. Once you had locked in tens for Robert, it was going to be so high across the board just to compare because this was so much better. So much better.
- [45:48]
Charlotte
It was so classy and just elegant and they were gliding through. This to me is like old school ballroom dance. You know, just watching that with the beautiful outfits. They both looked gorgeous. They were staring at each other with big smiles on their face. I could watch this all day. It was great.
- [46:05]
Will Friedle
Right? And again, it wasn't like cutting edge in terms of like current culture. It was referential to old culture and like, and really just investing in something that is dated intentionally to say like, we're gonna, we're gonna really go back in time and, and, and do something that wouldn't be considered maybe cool today. Yeah. But make it cool again.
- [46:26]
Charlotte
I love that all this, all this fusion food is amazing. But if you can just make a classic souffle. Yes. There's something about that that's amazing. Yeah. So, yeah, I loved it. I think they look great together again. I. They could easily. They could win. Maybe it's. Maybe it's. In any other year they would win because it does seem like they're just gonna come to give it to Robert. But there's three or four couples that could easily win this show or should have a chance at winning the show. And yeah, they're definitely two of them because man, can they dance. And I would say just from watching next to your favorite dancer, Daniella, next to Daniela, I think Val is probably the next best dancer on the floor.
- [47:06]
Will Friedle
Yes. And an amazing choreographer. Yeah, he kind of knows it too.
- [47:11]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [47:11]
Will Friedle
No, you get that vibe from him, right?
- [47:13]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [47:13]
Will Friedle
Yeah.
- [47:14]
Charlotte
We didn't talk about.
- [47:15]
Will Friedle
He actually had a very humble speech about being an immigrant coming to.
- [47:18]
Charlotte
He loves it. He loves, he loves what he does. But the one thing we didn't talk about was the very opening move of Dylan and Daniella where Dylan's got his leg up and she just comes in and pops under his leg with that. Oh, it was so cool.
- [47:30]
Will Friedle
Like a dart.
- [47:31]
Charlotte
Yes. What? So cool.
- [47:34]
Will Friedle
Yeah.
- [47:34]
Charlotte
That just set the tone for everything.
- [47:36]
Will Friedle
So true.
- [47:37]
Charlotte
Yeah, it was great. All right.
- [47:38]
Will Friedle
Alex and Val got tens across the board.
- [47:39]
Charlotte
Well, so. Yep. Deserved.
- [47:42]
Will Friedle
Next up, Whitney and Mark. And the Argentinian tango strikes again. Ryder's so happy. Perfect. It just. It's. I mean, it was Danielle's breakthrough dance. I just feel like this is everybody's breakthrough dance. You do the Argentinian tango.
- [47:56]
Charlotte
Well.
- [47:56]
Will Friedle
Sexy.
- [47:56]
Charlotte
And it's.
- [47:57]
Will Friedle
It's.
- [47:58]
Charlotte
You're moving your legs and their legs are going up underneath other. That's so cool.
- [48:02]
Will Friedle
You get all those little flicks and weird kicks that you're just like, what? You just can't take your eyes off of it. And yet it's so, like, just expressive.
- [48:10]
Charlotte
Totally agree.
- [48:11]
Will Friedle
Oh, man.
- [48:11]
Charlotte
Totally agree.
- [48:12]
Will Friedle
So this was insane to me. And. Yes. Like, I think this was her. Her best dance ever.
- [48:20]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [48:20]
Will Friedle
And they just. They're. They're so great, man. I love both of them. I. Yeah, this was incredible to watch. And at this point, I was like, dude, if they don't give them tens, I'm gonna be pissed.
- [48:32]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [48:32]
Will Friedle
And there was a moment where I was like, are they not gonna do it? Are they gonna. Somebody gonna give her a nine and. Nope, Nope. Ken's across the board.
- [48:39]
Charlotte
Had to be.
- [48:40]
Will Friedle
Had to.
- [48:40]
Charlotte
You're right. They set the standard a little high at the beginning, and then you kind of had to go from there because it was really remarkable. There were three or four dances tonight that were really remarkable. I still think Dylan and Daniella was dance of the night, though, personally.
- [48:56]
Will Friedle
So this is going to be. I mean, really, if we just take the tens, it's Robert, Dylan, Alex, and Whitney. That's going to be the top four. Right.
- [49:06]
Charlotte
And I think that's, like.
- [49:07]
Will Friedle
It's just inevitable at this point. Like, at this point in the night, I was going, man, it could. Andy could sort of eke out and stick around, in which case I was going to say, Elaine's probably going home.
- [49:18]
Charlotte
That's what I thought was going to happen.
- [49:19]
Will Friedle
It didn't happen that way.
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Ryder Strong
Nope.
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Will Friedle
And so now I'm like, okay, well, now it's just going to be dancing. Yeah, I agree. And it's going to come down to the people that got the top, top scores this week, and I truly believe. So we're just waiting for that to.
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Charlotte
Happen, Andy was probably slightly disappointed, but I think he had such a fun time, got farther than he ever thought, and probably walked away. Going like, that was amazing. I'm good, and I'm glad that. I'm glad he stayed, and I'm also glad he's gone now. I think it was time. And you can now get to the. The cream is really rising to the.
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Will Friedle
Top at this point.
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Charlotte
I mean, there's. It's amazing.
- [49:52]
Will Friedle
And we went into flashbacks to seasons past. Wait, before.
- [49:56]
Charlotte
I'm sorry.
- [49:56]
Will Friedle
Oh, yeah.
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Charlotte
I apologize to our faithful listeners because I was so upset with Danielle exiting last week that many people pointed out that I did not do Will's History of Dance. So I'm gonna do an in memoriam. Danielle Fischl dancing to Will's History of Dance, which was. Danielle's last dance, was the contemporary dance. And so for people out there. Cause, as you know, Ryder, I have an encyclopedic knowledge of all things dance. We've established this at this point.
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Will Friedle
Does it even matter with contemporary to have an encyclopedic knowledge?
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Charlotte
It matters with all things to have an encyclopedic knowledge. It's an expressive and versatile dance genre that emerged from modern dance, combining elements of various styles like ballet, jazz, and modern to create innovative and creative movements. I love how to describe a contemporary dance. They describe it as.
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Ryder Strong
Or.
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Charlotte
I mean, I, in my head, with my knowledge, describe it as a modern dance. So best way to describe contemporary.
- [50:50]
Will Friedle
Modern. Yeah. Thank you very much.
- [50:52]
Charlotte
Kind of anything goes kind of redundant.
- [50:54]
Will Friedle
But that's all right.
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Charlotte
It's a slow dance that isn't quick.
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Will Friedle
And then we went into flashbacks of seasons best and profiles of the judges with a nod to Len Goodman, who I gather was one of the original judges and a legend who has now passed. Like I said earlier, I thought this was really cool. This gave me so much appreciation for all the judges. I feel like we've come at Carrie Anne a little hard.
- [51:24]
Charlotte
We have.
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Will Friedle
Which sounds like a lot of people are. Yep. And this gave me another. More appreciation for how much she's brought to the show. All of them. I was just like, oh, this is a really interesting job. These people, you know, they're up against it in a lot of ways. And then. Yeah. Just seeing Derek when He was, like, 15 or whatever, he looked like such a baby.
- [51:44]
Charlotte
It was unbelievable to see him out there.
- [51:48]
Will Friedle
Yeah. And on top of his choreography for the opening number, I just. My respect for him. Yeah.
- [51:53]
Charlotte
Yeah. We gotta see if he'll come on to Podmates twirl. I know he's a big fan.
- [51:55]
Will Friedle
I'd love to have him on.
- [51:56]
Charlotte
And by that I mean he's probably never heard of us or has no idea that we're doing this, but I think both he having he and his sister on, because the perspective of both sides would be very interesting of hosting a live show like this every week. But also dancing. I mean, she danced that opening number and is sitting there huffing and puffing, trying to get through now. Oh, wait, now I'm a host. So difficult for both of them. We did come at Carrie Anne kind of hard. I think rightfully so at the time, but that's also. Anytime you put yourself out there nowadays, if you say up, then everyone who likes down hates you. It's just the way the world works. She handled it with total class like she did. And I think. I think all of her scoring and all of the judges scoring except for Robert this week. And I could see why they wanted to give him high scores, I think was pretty spot on.
- [52:40]
Will Friedle
Yeah, I agree. Then we entered this relay section, which I wasn't quite clear on what this was, and then again felt kind of rigged, you know, like, because who they were partnered or who they were versus seemed like a big deal, you know, like, that kind of determines, like, so the pairings and then also the mirror ball past mirror ball winners who they were dancing with. Like with Jordan, she got in another Olympic guy, the Apollo, who hadn't danced in 13 years.
- [53:14]
Charlotte
Yeah.
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Will Friedle
Whereas when it came for Alex and Robert, the last set of relay, she.
- [53:20]
Charlotte
Was like last year's winner.
- [53:22]
Will Friedle
Both of them got the most recent winners.
- [53:23]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [53:24]
Will Friedle
I was like, that's a stacked deck.
- [53:25]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [53:26]
Will Friedle
That's total. They were giving Robert and Alex a huge leg up on everybody else.
- [53:30]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [53:31]
Will Friedle
Kind of pissed me off, man.
- [53:33]
Charlotte
I don't disagree with you. I. I have not liked most of these side little sojourns that they've. They're taking. No, it seems a little strange. It seems like a way to. To stack the Decker, rig it again.
- [53:44]
Will Friedle
To boost who you want and.
- [53:46]
Charlotte
Yeah, exactly. Whitney got. Whitney had immunity, got two extra points. She won the dance off the week before it. They. It's an easy way to kind of figure out next steps.
- [53:56]
Will Friedle
Yeah. So it was Jordan versus Elain, Jordan one. I thought that was kind of an obvious.
- [54:03]
Charlotte
Me too.
- [54:04]
Will Friedle
When you compare the two dances as. As good as Elaine was, it was like, no, but it was cool to see how. How well they worked with another partner. I did like that factor of this whole Thing, you know, that they. You got to see, like, these people have to adjust. And during the pre dance packages, I was like, oh, God, this is going to be a disaster. And it wasn't pretty much across the board. It was solid. People were. And those people who admitted that they hadn't danced in years really brought it. And you were like, oh, I could see why you won in a.
- [54:31]
Charlotte
But it made me kind of wish I could retool all of Dancing with the Stars.
- [54:37]
Will Friedle
Yeah.
- [54:37]
Charlotte
Because if I could retool all of Dancing with the Stars, it would be two celebrities who have to learn how to dance together. The pro is teaching them how to dance every week, but the actual dances every week are two different celebrities. You double the amount of celebrities that are there, first of all. And you're watching everybody kind of on equal footing. And so you've got, you know, it's celebrity to celebrity. And then you get your professional who trained you every week.
- [55:01]
Will Friedle
Wow.
- [55:02]
Charlotte
So you can never have somebody standing there while a professional dance around dances around you. It's always the two of you together learning that.
- [55:09]
Will Friedle
I wonder if that would just result in worse dances, though. You know what I mean?
- [55:12]
Charlotte
Of course. But that's. I mean, because you don't get to see professionals dancing all over the place.
- [55:17]
Will Friedle
Right.
- [55:17]
Charlotte
But to me, that would be a really interesting. Maybe do a season like that. Do one season where all the professionals do all the interstitial dances and they train you all week long, but on the floor, it's just the two of you together.
- [55:30]
Will Friedle
I like that. All right. Then we had Andy versus Dylan. It seemed like a foregone conclusion that Dylan would win, which he did, of course. But Andy had this shirt moment, which didn't. We make this very joke. I feel like we made this exact joke that we were like, will, you'd rip your shirt open, you'd have one of those muscle shirts under it. We made that joke, and then they did it. And his commitment to it. But at this point, I was like, you know what? I don't know. I think Andy. I'm okay with Andy sticking around another week. Because it was commitment. Good dancing, actually. Yeah.
- [56:03]
Charlotte
It wasn't bad.
- [56:04]
Will Friedle
Some better than dancing.
- [56:05]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [56:06]
Will Friedle
And funny, entertaining. I mean, all the things that you want it to be. And it reminded me of what we talked about with you, is like, you would be best if you entered Dancing with the Stars thinking of it as a character. Thinking of it as, like a joke, as a comedy bit. You would end up committing more physically than if you felt the pressure to, like, Actually be sexy or, you know. And I felt like Andy came alive in the same vein when he was like, I know this joke is coming, and this I'm gonna play you. And yet he physically ended up committing more than he ever has. It was really cool to see.
- [56:39]
Charlotte
It was a good moment. It really was a good moment.
- [56:41]
Will Friedle
I was also watching Rumer Willis in the. The rehearsals going, she won. What's happening here? Is she any good? And then when she came out, she was amazing. Yeah.
- [56:51]
Charlotte
I thought the two of them together looked great together.
- [56:53]
Will Friedle
They were so good. I was like, like, oh, it's not just Daniella bringing up Dylan, you know, like, he's really working well with another partner who's also amazing.
- [57:04]
Charlotte
I really, incredibly well together. But that's what I mean. Two celebrities together. It could work.
- [57:09]
Will Friedle
Could be. Could really be great.
- [57:11]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [57:12]
Will Friedle
So, yeah, Dylan won this face Off. Why these face offs become these face offs again, I just don't understand. And we ended with Alex and Robert, and this is where they got the, like, the most recent dancers. They got pros who are, like, fresh off of winning the Mirror Ball. Their dances were really good. I thought Alex's was insanely good.
- [57:33]
Charlotte
I thought it was better than Robert's.
- [57:34]
Will Friedle
Yes.
- [57:35]
Charlotte
That was the only one I thought they got wrong.
- [57:37]
Will Friedle
But that's the thing. They want Robert to win.
- [57:39]
Charlotte
Yes.
- [57:40]
Will Friedle
And I thought the fact that he.
- [57:41]
Charlotte
Kicks her in the face. Did you see that in the back?
- [57:43]
Will Friedle
Yeah.
- [57:44]
Charlotte
I mean, he literally kicks her in.
- [57:46]
Will Friedle
That final move where he's like, like slamming her to the ground, almost flipping her over and jumping back up. I was like, what? This is crazy. And, you know, you see it in rehearsals and you see how crazy it is, and then they nailed it, man. They really got the.
- [58:01]
Charlotte
I think they got the wrong one here. I also think. And I think you said this before, you may have changed your tune, I don't know. But I was the entire night of watching. I think the jive is my least favorite dance.
- [58:13]
Will Friedle
Yeah.
- [58:13]
Charlotte
Yeah. It's just. It's not. It's. I prefer the holding onto each other classical kind of dance with some moves in between, the kind of jive of the quick step and them side by side. It's not my. And so that threw me a bit because it just isn't my favorite dance. But I thought this was the only one that they got wrong. I thought that Alex deserved to win this round, frankly.
- [58:32]
Will Friedle
Yep. Yep. I think most people felt that way.
- [58:35]
Charlotte
Yeah.
- [58:37]
Will Friedle
All right. And that was. That was it for the dancing then. We just had the. The Results. And I really was kind of shocked.
- [58:46]
Charlotte
I was shocked.
- [58:47]
Will Friedle
Really? You thought Andy was gonna stick?
- [58:49]
Charlotte
Absolutely. I thought, I thought the fandies were. Are coming out and it's was becoming a thing and they just were gonna keep him on. I. I didn't think he was gonna win. I didn't think anybody's gonna beat Robert, but I thought he was gonna be. Make it to the finals.
- [59:00]
Will Friedle
Wow.
- [59:00]
Charlotte
So the idea I was. I was convinced after starting the show and the low scores that Elaine. That this was gonna be Elaine's last week of dancing.
- [59:09]
Will Friedle
Well, it will be next week, probably. That's what we're looking at at this point. When you have people with all tens. Yeah. It's going to be Jordan and Elaine dropping off, which is too bad because they both have great journeys. They both do incredibly well. But. And they said it in this episode, and I've heard it a lot, that this season is insane.
- [59:28]
Charlotte
Yeah. Stacked, ridiculous.
- [59:29]
Will Friedle
And I think in any other season, Jordan and Elaine would have a genuine shot, from what I gather, at winning.
- [59:37]
Charlotte
But as would Danielle. That's what Charlotte said. As would Danielle. That we're talking about killing it.
- [59:42]
Will Friedle
I know you've got. When you have Robert and Alex and Whitney and now even Dylan, you're just talking about people that are taking it to this next level.
- [59:51]
Charlotte
But that's why I hope somebody like Dylan or Robert wins.
- [59:57]
Will Friedle
Yeah.
- [59:58]
Charlotte
Simply because these were two guys. And again, you're probably right that Robert is Matt training to be on Dancing with the Stars his entire life because he knew he wanted to be here and it's his family legacy kind of thing. But somebody like Dylan, from where he was to where he is now, to me is represents the show.
- [60:13]
Will Friedle
Exactly.
- [60:14]
Charlotte
Perfectly represents the show. Whereas, hey, Whitney, the girl who grew up dancing, who went to school for dancing, who's danced her whole life and is now a professional TikTok dancer, wins a dancing competition. That's not a headline to me at all. Dylan Efron comes out and wins. That's pretty impressive.
- [60:29]
Will Friedle
Yeah.
- [60:29]
Charlotte
And you're right. That dance, just the move. It's a poster of him holding her in the plank position with the light behind them. I mean, that is going to be on some kid's wall who wants to grow up and be a dancer. That's like. That's Michael Jordan dunking on you in the dance competition. I mean, it was. That was insane.
- [60:48]
Will Friedle
All right, that's it for this episode of POD Meets Twirled. Join us next week as we continue watching season 34 of Dancing with the Stars. We may not know a salsa from a jar of salsa, but we know what we learned way back in Feeney's class. Daniel Fishel was the star of the show. Podmeetes World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fishel, Wilfred L And Rider Strong, executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, executive in charge of production Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Sugbash, producer Matty Moore, engineer in Boy Meet the World Series superban Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram odmeatsworldshow or email us at podmeatsworldshowmail.com.
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Charlotte
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Ryder Strong
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Charlotte
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Will Friedle
Big props to this team.
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Charlotte
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