Pod Meets Twirl'd: Survivor 5002

Summary

Pod Meets Twirl'd: Survivor 5002

Podcast: Pod Meets World
Date: March 6, 2026
Hosts: Rider Strong & Will Friedle
Episode Theme: A deep-dive into Survivor Season 50, embracing the ultimate fan-expert pretender dichotomy. Will (barely a Survivor viewer) and Rider (well-versed, but not encyclopedic) recap, roast, and ruminate on the strategic and social highlights from the latest episode of Survivor’s milestone season.

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Episode Overview

Rider and Will kick off their Survivor Season 50 rewatch, admitting their uneven levels of Survivor fandom and knowledge. This week’s episode balances playful self-mockery, sharp Survivor analysis, and plenty of personal tales, as the duo wades through the shifting social sands, challenges, and legendary characters of the current all-star season. The hosts react to cast injuries, evolving show strategy, and the very real emotional impact of long-running alliances and dogged competition.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Hosts’ Survivor Credentials and Perspective

[02:53–05:14]

• Rider reveals his “long-time fan, casual historian” status, having watched out of order and only rarely tracked Survivor closely.
• Will admits he’s a Survivor outsider who “prefers wilderness with room service”, but values Alone and shows where actual survival is at the forefront.

Memorable Quote:

“What we really mean is we have no idea what we’re talking about. Hopefully they understand the correlation between the two.” – Will Friedle [11:30]

2. The Show’s Evolution: Survival vs. Social Game

[05:17–07:18]

• Discussion about how the “new era” is faster-paced, with less focus on pure survival (shelter, food), more on strategy and alliances.
• Rider explains: in early seasons, building shelter and gathering food dominated; now the drama and social maneuvering get primary edit.

Memorable Quote:

“It’s basically a game show with the backdrop of an island. ... Survival aspect is so low priority nowadays.” – Rider Strong [06:09]

3. Physical Challenges: Age, Fitness, and Spectacle

[07:48–09:58]

• Commentary on both the grueling nature of modern challenges and the aging all-star cast.
• Personal stories: Rider’s wife and her theoretical Survivor strategies, Will’s outright refusal to “rough it”.

Notable Moment: Will reiterates his only willingness to “do the drinking part” of camping trips, furthering the city-boy/woodsman comedy dynamic.

4. Strategy and Emotional Bonds

[13:03–16:02]

• Why Survivor is emotionally intense and bonds form fast: “By end of the season, these people have really been through it.”
• Highlights how deeply players can get invested—even new relationships prompt real tears and loyalty.

Highlighted Quote:

“Survivor is so intense emotionally and physically that they bond and feel this real connection or hatred of each other.” – Rider Strong [13:29]

5. Recapping Key Episode Events (Survivor 50, Ep. 2)

Injuries & Emotional Fallout

[16:04–17:17, 26:07–27:29]

• Kyle’s injury means he’s “pulled” from the game: more impactful to players than a vote-off.
• The psychological effect of “injuries can hit us anytime” is discussed.

Early Power Shifts & Alliances

[16:28–17:14]

• Power alliances struggle as members lose votes or get taken out.
• Rizzo’s social adaptation (from hyper to low-key) wins unlikely allies.

Quote:

“Rizzo’s come… he admits, I came in too hyper, and now I had to tone myself down. I think it’s working.” – Rider Strong [16:28]

Challenges: Design, Danger, and Fairness

First Reward Challenge: [21:15–22:13]

• Critique: Reward is a tarp and camp improvements, making major quality-of-life differences.
• Admiration for the show’s challenge designers and the balance of fairness/difficulty.

Physical Mishaps: [18:04–19:05]

• Comic highlight: Christian’s pants-blurring bathroom accident becomes instant meme material and a recurring runner (hosts dubbing him “poopy pants”).

Social Drama: Trust, Loyalty, and Deception

[44:57–48:53]

• Joe struggles playing “honorably”—a liability in Survivor’s duplicity-heavy environment.
• Will and Rider reflect on jobs that require deep trust (firefighters/cops/military) and how that may hinder success in Survivor.

Quote:

“He is… if I trust you, I trust you. It reminds me of my father. ... It's a powerful thing to be able to say, ‘I'm not lying to you. I am being straight with you.’” – Rider Strong [47:17]

Tribe Dynamics: Laziness and Generational Gaps

[49:20–50:07]

• Hosts note the changing norms about camp chores and effort, observing younger players’ apathy to work.
• Will: “That would drive me crazy… unless there’s people around me counting on me, then I’m gonna find something to do.”

Immunity Challenge: "The Giant Survivor Snake"

[50:08–53:44]

• Sand, nets, and carrying a massive “Survivor snake”—brutal physicality.
• Untangling knots: a recurring Survivor skill/test, and the value in training for it.

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6. Idols and Advantages Saga

[58:02–61:25]

• Poopy Pants (Christian) finds a Billy Idol (“Billie Eilish”-shaped) Boomerang idol, and chooses to give it to Aubry—a tactical and symbolic gesture.
• Discussion about idol rules: finding, gifting, fake idols, and the drama of being “played” by a counterfeit.

Quote:

“There have been times where somebody’s made a fake idol, told somebody that they have it and given it to them and said, you can use this. ... Jeff Probst hands it in and goes, ‘This is not a real immunity idol.’” – Rider Strong [60:40]

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7. Scramble & Tribal Council

[65:37–66:41, 67:41–69:31]

• Tension before council centers on whether Ozzy is at risk, and intricate plans to manipulate the vote are orchestrated by Siree.
• Emotional resonance from Savannah’s final speech about vulnerability—bittersweet, as she’s voted out immediately thereafter.

Quote:

“I really just felt sorry for them having to vote somebody out. It sucks.” – Rider Strong [54:59]

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8. Favorite Players & Team Spirit

• Both hosts openly root for “Team Sila” (Rider: “These are my people. ... I’m laying it out there. I care about them. I like them.” [71:27])

• Will’s “all in on poopy pants” (Christian), relishing his quirkiness and comic misadventures.

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9. Survivor From History

[75:20–79:22]

• Will spotlights Juliane Koepcke, sole survivor of a 1971 plane crash, who fell 10,000 feet into the Peruvian Amazon and survived 11 days alone.
• Detailed recounting of her ordeal, concluding with comic reimaginings of Survivor challenges in the Amazon.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• “It’s people kind of walking around and just going like, we should be a team.” – Will Friedle [12:59]
• “I want poopy pants.” – Will Friedle [72:01]
• “Trap your smoking.” – Rider Strong (on mishearing “the tribe has spoken”) [73:27]
• “If you can’t poop your pants on national television, you ain’t…” – Will Friedle [36:36]
• “He’s not a villain…he’s just a trickster. Roadrunner. Meep meep. Totally.” – Rider Strong (on Mike White) [69:13]
• “I just know, man. Super invasive to me where it’s like…” – Will Friedle (on searching Aubry’s bag) [38:16]
• “Have you tried pull up lately?...They’re ridiculous.” – Rider Strong [15:47]

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Notable Segment Timestamps

• Survivor Show & Era Discussion: [05:16 – 07:18]
• Challenge Design & Physical Toll: [21:15 – 24:01, 50:08 – 53:44]
• Christian’s Poopy Pants Moment: [18:04 – 19:05], recurring throughout
• Idols and Fake Idols: [58:02 – 61:25]
• Tribal Council & Emotional Sendoff: [67:41 – 69:31]
• Survivor from History: Juliane Koepcke: [75:20 – 79:22]

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Tone & Style

The episode is packed with Rider and Will’s classic banter—humorous, irreverent, impersonally personal (lots of poking fun at their own limitations as Survivor “scholars”). There’s a genial acknowledgment of their casual fandom and an infectious delight in both the spectacle and absurdity of Survivor, all layered over some genuine observations and emotional connections to the cast’s social and physical struggles.

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Summary Takeaway

Listeners get a thorough, funny, and surprisingly engaged breakdown of Survivor 50’s latest episode—warts, fake idols, “poopy pants,” and all. Whether you’re deep into Survivor or as clueless as Will, the hosts make every sand-grinding, alliance-jockeying moment both accessible and entertaining.

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For Survivor newbies and superfans alike, “Pod Meets Twirl'd: Survivor 5002” is less a how-to guide, more a playful and heartfelt group text from your TV besties, cheering, groaning, and laughing at the greatest reality game’s legendary 50th season.

Transcript

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[Rider Strong]

Welcome to POD meets Twirled, a podcast that once chronicled two guys who had never seen Dancing with the Stars but watched a season and somehow walked away. Experts. From there, we ventured into Traitors, a show I'd never seen, but Will swore he could win. And now we turn to Survivor season 50, the big one. This time the roles are reversed. Will has seen exactly one season. The first one, meanwhile, I've watched for years. We are Will Friedle, who prefers his wilderness with room service, and Rider Strong, who will hike any mountain but hates the beach. Two best friends, one devoted to the comforts of civilization. One who would never leave the woods if he could. Both reality competition scholars join us as we dive into alliances. Blindsides, fire making sand related misery and 25 years of television history, culminating in a single massive season. This is POD meets Twirled. Seeking immunity. What was your impression of the morning Zoo show? That we would start drinking dink.

[Will Friedle]

Dingle in the dank.

[Rider Strong]

It's dingle in the dank in the

[Will Friedle]

morning here on 105 Wake up LA.

[Rider Strong]

Going to crank call puppets today. Yeah. I mean, maybe we should just give up our Survivor recaps and just go straight Morning Zoo radio show.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, yeah.

[Rider Strong]

And I feel like we need like three more people.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Rogers]

Oh, yeah.

[Rider Strong]

And we need a soundboard. And then, like we have somebody that we always annoy by calling, like your mom, you know, we're going to call Will's mom for her opinion. What's she got to say about this? Will?

[Will Friedle]

God, that's funny. Yeah. We got to end this. Oh, I love it. Which one's dingle and which one's the dank is the question. We'll figure.

[Rider Strong]

We'll workshop later. We'll workshop it later.

[Matt Rogers]

I don't.

[Rider Strong]

It's. It's got to be your dingle

[Will Friedle]

on the morning wood. 65

[Rider Strong]

Dingle and Dank with me coming at you with morning wood. Well, I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners last week by our severe lack of Survivor Knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just gonna remind you, I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough.

[Will Friedle]

Did people not like.

[Rider Strong]

Like what?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, just because we.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, and I get it. Like, I'm sure if you actually keep up with Survivor history and these contestants in particular, but we. I'm just. I. Yeah, I've liked Survivor, but I've been a very casual watcher. Right. You know, I don't keep track of all the rule changes. It turns out the new era is actually just that it's a shorter. A shorter period of time that they're on the island. Like, they used to stay for longer and the game was slower to start. So, like, you didn't form. Like, people just didn't play as aggressively. But in the new era, the game got condensed and there's just. It's a quicker pace. So I'd like to point out I

[Will Friedle]

did read a couple things where people said you were spot on about certain things, though, like the fact that apparently in the early seasons they really concentrated on building the shelters and getting food and the actual Survivor aspect.

[Rider Strong]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

This has nothing to do with that.

[Rider Strong]

No.

[Will Friedle]

Well, that's the thing.

[Rider Strong]

That amazing episode they. They cut in a little bit about Rizzo being lazy.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Right.

[Rider Strong]

So they are doing stuff they're just not, like, editing, you know, like. Yeah, they're only editing those moments in if they play into the social game strategy. Right. Like, they're not including. Because I think people just got bored of, like, every season being about like, oh, my God, I'm so hungry, or I'm so cold. But I also think maybe people stopped complaining because they kind of knew what they were getting into. So that's. The survival aspect is so low priority nowadays. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, I'm not fully in yet, I'll be totally honest with you.

[Rider Strong]

Because you prefer, like, alone, where it's really about what they're actually doing.

[Will Friedle]

Make it what it's about. If it's called Survivor, then give them no food, give them no fire and let them win stuff or whatever it's going to be and then make it about, we've got to build a shelter, we've got to work together as kind. It's almost Lord of the Flies. We've got to work together as a community. We've got to do this kind of stuff. But this is it. Seriously. Seems to me like a bunch of people sitting around going, who should we vote off? Let's vote her off. No, I don't want to vote her off. Okay, let's vote somebody else off. Well, now we got to go and do a challenge. Okay. And. And the whole. And I'm kind of going like, is this it? Is this. Is this all they do?

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, it's. It's more like, you know, I think if you. If you hear Jeff Probst especially talk about it, it's. He always calls it a social experiment.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Rider Strong]

And that is. It's. It's more about, like, I think. Yeah, they just. They've decided to play into the drama and the interpersonal stuff as the strategy, you know, as the game. It's basically a game show with the. With the backdrop of an island. Yes, but the game show. The game is very rough, physically. You know, like, these challenges are no joke, you know, like, I don't understand

[Will Friedle]

how people are not getting hurt basically every episode.

[Rider Strong]

I know, because they do a lot

[Will Friedle]

of stuff where you're jumping and landing in the water the wrong way of it. A lot of these people are not in their 20s. I mean, these people that, like Cobalt, this is.

[Rider Strong]

You know, my wife has talked about doing Survivor, and my son has been pushing her to do it. And she's always said, like, she would kill at the strategy. Like, she loves the social strategy. She would be great at all. And she would. She would be genuinely. Because she's so good at socializing. Like, she's good at, like, being friendly to people and getting them on her side, but she's also can be Machiavellian in the best way. But her biggest thing is the physical challenges, and she's in good shape. She's just not in that kind of shape. And she doesn't love, like, working out. You know, you have to, like, be, like, a person willing to really push.

[Will Friedle]

You said yourself, though, they've changed it to where, like, there's some. Some people that are not on the island that aren't in the greatest of shape. So there are more kind of like, positions for those.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah, exactly.

[Will Friedle]

Like, it. Like, the whole team needs to do this. So she could take kind of the position, or she.

[Rider Strong]

She just doesn't want to, and she's, like, having to jump and swim and climb and do all that. She's like, no, I'm not. She's just not that person.

[Will Friedle]

I think that would be the. I couldn't do it. I hurt myself.

[Rider Strong]

I think it'd be such a wimp, you know? Like, I just. Like, I. When I go into the woods, I'm usually backpacking, like, walking very little, you know, the Whole experience for me is just the. The. The nature stuff. It's not pushing myself physically. Like, I'm going into the woods this weekend with a group of friends, and I'm. I'm really nervous because one of my friends is on a big physical fitness kick right now. So he's like, we're gonna be mountain biking this day. Then we're gonna be surfing in the morning, and then we're. And I'm like, yeah, okay, I'll be. I'll take care of the meals. And I'm just trying to, like, make really lavish meals with lots of alcohol. So we're too hungover to do half of his activities. That's my whole plan. Smart.

[Will Friedle]

Now you're camping.

[Rider Strong]

No, I'm just. I'm gonna try, but, you know, I'm like, can we do e. Mountain biking? Like, can we get electric mountain bikes? And we can, so we will. Oh, good. Where. Where are you going? Near Santa Cruz. Okay, nice. So out in the road.

[Will Friedle]

Thanks for inviting me. I am busy this weekend and can't go with you.

[Rider Strong]

Oh, would you. Would you really come into the woods?

[Will Friedle]

Not a chance. Exactly. A chance. I'll do the drinking part, but I can do that here.

[Rider Strong]

Well, you could just hang out at the house and be at the cabin when we come back after our outing. I love it.

[Will Friedle]

Now we're camping. If there's. If you don't have every streaming service camping.

[Rider Strong]

All right, well, so to be clear, we're gonna know some Survivor stuff. I cannot keep up with these characters. I've definitely seen a lot of the seasons that these people played in. I don't have the memory to keep track of them anymore. And the problem is I never watched any season live. Like, I never actually. That's not true. There was a. There was one period where I was in a Survivor league, like a fantasy football league for Survivor. Really? Yeah. And it was. But it was all email based, so we never met in person. It was. It was like a friend of a friend. When they found out that I was into Survivor, they're like, oh, you got to join so and so's league. And he ran very, like, had a whole point system. So there were maybe like 20 of us, and I never did very well. But the whole point was that you picked your. Your person, you know, your team the first episode.

[Will Friedle]

So you could.

[Rider Strong]

Only after the first episode, you had to pick three people that you thought were gonna go to the end or at least one of them would, you know, win. And then there was a point system based on if that person, if you're one of your teammates got eliminated, you lost. Like, if they lost, if they did well, immunity challenge, you got points, you know, so you would get points based on, like, the. The different aspects of the game. So those, like, three seasons I watched live, otherwise everything has been completely out of order. Me and my wife and my son just being like, we haven't seen this season. We just click on it. So it's very hard to, like, keep together.

[Will Friedle]

I'm hoping most of our listeners, our dear, dear listeners, as Danielle would say, understand that when we say experts, we're joking. What we really mean is we have no idea what we're talking about. And hopefully they understand the correlation between the two. Other than dancing and Traitors, of which we are actual experts. Survivor, we're experts in that you've watched the show and I've heard of it.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

All right, so let's get into this episode. Two overall thoughts. You are still. You're not on board with the show, huh? You're not on board. It's okay. It's okay.

[Will Friedle]

Again, if you're going to be people backstabbing and backbiting, which is what they did in Traitors, do it with fabulous costumes in a castle.

[Rider Strong]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

You know, I will say I very much like the challenges. Yeah. Because I think those are really cool. I think they're physical. But, man, it really is also showing you how. It's like you need a big, strong person, guy or girl on your team. Because when they're lugging the snake or doing that stuff, that's not for the faint of heart. This isn't super easy stuff. I know. So it's. This isn't running through the woods trying to, like, hey, there's going to be bags of gold somewhere, like Traders. This is like snake, and they kill Traders.

[Rider Strong]

Challenges just pale in comparison to these.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Yeah. So I think Traders needs that. That needs to be upgraded. And then the rest of the kind of show of Survivor a little bit needs, like. I'm wondering if I would have liked the earlier seasons a little better.

[Rider Strong]

I think so.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

I think you're just. Yeah. I think you kind of had this idea in your mind about, like, that Lord of the Flies aspect, which is just. Yeah, it's not. It's.

[Will Friedle]

It's people kind of walking around and just going like, we should be a team.

[Rider Strong]

I'm really interested to see how you feel, though, because, you know, I think the. While the pageantry of traitors is, like, super fun, it also. It also removes an emotional element, you know, of the experience. Like, it's. Whereas this, like, by the end of the season, these people have really been through it. I mean, you can. I mean, we can even talk about. In our recap right now because, you know, the way that Genevieve is just crying about Kyle, you know, and she says it. She's like, it seems ridiculous that I'm crying about somebody I just barely knew. But Survivor is so intense emotionally and physically that they bond and they feel this, like, you know, real connection with each other or hatred of each other, if that's the case.

[Will Friedle]

And I.

[Rider Strong]

So I think it's. I think there's a level of intensity to Survivor that I. You know, in the. In the sort of parlor game, like, aspect, like, the. The fun of traitors was just like, okay, yeah, never, like, really actually even staying in this castle. Right. Like, right, right. So I don't know. For me, I kind of like.

[Will Friedle]

Has there ever been, like, a fistfight on Survivor?

[Rider Strong]

You know, I'm not sure. Actually. The only time I remember there was one challenge, and I think they only did it once, where they basically created a game that was sort of like basketball in the water where they just, you know, one person had to, like, carry a ball to an. A net, you know, a net and sink it. And there was no other real rules. And it got so intense because people were literally, like, trying to drown one another. You know, like, they were like, grab. There was like, no. Like, it was such physical contact. It basically became like Ultimate Fighter. And it was like, hold on. You know, And I think they had. They knew that they couldn't do that. Like, it was just too dangerous. And. And these people cared so much that it did. It basically became like a fist fight or, you know, like, I'm just gonna take you out. And that was like. I. I think they clearly realized, like, no, no, we can't. Like, there has to be more sort of teamwork. And then when the individual challenges are much more just like, can you hold on to a pole? Like, that's my favorite. There's one that's just. Literally, it's a. Like a telephone pole. And they just. You just. There's like, little slots on it, like

[Will Friedle]

little ridges, and just hold on.

[Rider Strong]

You just hold on. And the whole thing is, like, how do you hold on? And, like, some people, like, hug it. Some people are, like, holding them by their fingertips. And, like, that was one that, like, Ozzy did incredibly well. Like, he just was comfortable just sitting up there and you just watch these people. But it's so funny, because everybody will be like, fine, fine, fine, fine. And then, like, at minute 40, everybody just falls apart. It's like, yes, dude. They stayed up there for, like, over a half an hour, no joke, just holding onto a pole. That's the individual challenges to get. Really, It's. It's so impressive what these people do and what they put themselves through. They really push themselves.

[Will Friedle]

I started with a new personal trainer, and sometimes he'll go, all right, just hold up your body weight. And I'm like, 30 seconds in.

[Rider Strong]

I'm like, there we go. Oh, awesome. Look. I think about, like, how I used to be able to just do pull ups. Have you tried pull up lately? Oh, yeah.

[Will Friedle]

They're insane. They're ridiculous. Insane.

[Rider Strong]

Like, I don't think I could do one anymore. I used to be able to do, like, 12, like, when I was a kid or as a teenager, just be like, yeah, you know, pull ups. Now I'm like, are you kidding me?

[Will Friedle]

It's insane. Yeah, it's insane.

[Rider Strong]

All right, so, yeah, the episode begins with Kyle, you know, getting pulled on day four and Genevieve crying. And then Q, you know, talks about the fact that they're. His whole plan is kind of wrecked because he's lost his vote. Now Kyle, who was part of his alliance, is out.

[Will Friedle]

Kobe lost. Kobe couldn't vote.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah. Colby can't vote because he lost.

[Will Friedle]

Colby can't vote. Right.

[Rider Strong]

And Q can't vote.

[Will Friedle]

Right. And Q can't vote.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, they're really not much of a power alliance anymore. But anyway, they. They decide to bring Rizzo in, which is interesting. Like, Rizzo's come so, you know, and he admits he's like, I came in too hyper, and now I had to tone myself down. I think it's working. And it is like Colby's on his side, which is super interesting.

[Will Friedle]

But this is a new. This is also a generational thing.

[Rider Strong]

Totally.

[Will Friedle]

Because I'm guessing this younger generation where they're like, none of them are collecting sticks. None of them are doing anything. They're just sitting around. I bet you they wouldn't have lasted on the original Survivors.

[Rider Strong]

Survivor never.

[Will Friedle]

That's what I mean. That's what I mean. It's like, so you can just sit there and not do anything, and it's just about like, I gotta get social game, and then I gotta vote somebody off and maybe I gotta carry some stuff. Yeah, that's kind of it. Yeah. So, yeah, it's more surviving the social aspect than it is. See it. To me, it should be like an Actual Survivor thing at some point. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

I'm curious how you feel by the end, though. Like. Okay, because you go through, like. I think what ended up happening was that the Survivor stuff overtook the show to a degree that it wasn't even fun to watch anymore. You know, it was like watching people literally starve to death and be tortured. And it was like, I. You know, like, that's a lot. It's heavy.

[Will Friedle]

That's alone. That's. That's what it is. It's like, it's more endurance than it is social.

[Rider Strong]

And I think there's a reason alone is on a much smaller network.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, exactly.

[Rider Strong]

You know, like, Survivor is like, one of the biggest hit shows of all time, and I think it's because they figured out that, like, being able to project and put yourself in there, that.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly.

[Rider Strong]

You know, which. Anybody.

[Will Friedle]

You can. You can watch it from your couch and go, like, I might be able to do this. Like, I might be able to do this.

[Rider Strong]

And that is.

[Will Friedle]

That's important in gaining an audience. It truly is. Yeah. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Over at Sila, there's this hysterical moment with Joe and Christian at the fight.

[Will Friedle]

Oh. And I knew the second I saw his face, the second I thought he

[Rider Strong]

was gonna go throw up, I was like, oh, no, this is. And I was worried because, of course, if you start throwing up, like, you know, that could be like dehydration. I mean, even pooping your pants is dehydration. But.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, my God, he just shit himself. I was like, I know that look. He just shit himself.

[Rider Strong]

He's like, are you okay? He's like, I might be. I just need.

[Will Friedle]

I need a second. And then they blur his pants. Literally blur his pants.

[Rider Strong]

Like, yeah. And Alex was watching. She's like, that's why I won't go on Survivor because that would be me. She's like, that's what would happen to me. And I couldn't live with myself. And I just love that he finally just turns the camera. He's like, my wife is going to divorce me.

[Will Friedle]

He's like, you're not going to want to see this.

[Rider Strong]

I promise you, I want to see this. I mean, it sucks, man. I do love him, though. I. I mean, I really like a lot of people this season. I genuinely enjoy these people. Like, even Rizzo, for all of his, like, sort of self congratulatory and his laziness, I kind of find him entertaining. So everybody. Yeah, everybody.

[Will Friedle]

Makes me feel a little bad about this being the first season I've watched in season one because I Feel like part of this season. The character of the show this season is the personalities coming in that you already watched doing this and the relationship they have to one another. And so not knowing that, I feel like I'm at a bit of a disadvantage. I was, like, trying to explain to sue last night what you were saying where I was like, okay, so that's Coach, and I thought we liked him, but we don't. He's apparently kind of a villain. And that's Q, who we thought was the drummer from. From Toto, but it turns out he's actually a really good player who keeps everybody alive. So it's like, yeah, but so not knowing, like, any other year where it's just a whole bunch of randoms.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

It's just kind of like, all right, we'll learn the game. But this was specifically like, ooh, what happened on there?

[Rider Strong]

You're getting the deep end, man.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

They're giving, like, they talk about how much baggage they're coming in with, and it's like, yeah. So it's a. Very. Normally at this point in the game, you're just still getting to know people and they're getting to know each other, and there's this real sense of like, can I trust this person? Can I not? This the game. They almost have already decided whether they can trust each other or not.

[Will Friedle]

And so they just jump right into playing. Yeah, that's the thing. So there's no explanation? Kind of. No. Hey, I've never seen. This season is not built for somebody who's never watched Survivor.

[Rider Strong]

No.

[Will Friedle]

And so it is one of those things where it's kind of like I'm. I'm picking it up and I'm getting there. But I, you know, you. I wish I kind of knew because they. They get in, they know how they're going to play, and it's like, they're pros. They've started to play. Yes. It's the same thing with what you said with Traders, where you're like, I want to watch one where they're not celebrities and aren't so polished and all that kind of stuff. It's that same kind of vibe with this.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah. No, I think. I think you would enjoy the discovery of other seasons a lot. You know, and also when they do the sort of social experiments that they've done, like, remember I told you, they divide them by generation or by race or. There was one season where they divided them by class. Like, literally, they had a blue collar team, working class team, and then, like, you know, a White collar. Yeah, they. They did. Like, and it was so weird to, you know, for these people to have to confront, like, which category they had been put in based on their. Basically their job. Like, if they were a lawyer or if they were a plumber. Different teams, you know, it was really interesting.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

All right, so we got our first reward challenge, which is, you know, so sometimes there's immunity challenges and then there's just reward challenges.

[Will Friedle]

But they never showed you what the reward was.

[Rider Strong]

Well, they said it. It's a tarp.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

They get like, oh, I thought he

[Will Friedle]

just said it was an upgrade. You're getting a camp upgrade. But he didn't say what it was. Did they say tarp?

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, yeah, he says it. He says.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Rider Strong]

It's like. It's like a big tarp, I think, like, blankets and pillows.

[Will Friedle]

Like. Oh, I didn't. Must have. I didn't hear that. I just read that.

[Rider Strong]

I think that's how that one team remember, if you notice at the end of the episode, they have a hammock. I think that's like, that's part of the kit.

[Will Friedle]

You know, sue missed it too, because she.

[Rider Strong]

We were both like, where the.

[Will Friedle]

They get hammocks? Like, how the hell did that. Oh, okay.

[Rider Strong]

No, so there's. There's 2 degrees. There's like the, you know, the luxury and then the less version. But yeah, it's having a tarp, which becomes a big deal for, you know, when it's raining.

[Bowen Yang]

Hell, yes.

[Will Friedle]

Absolutely. And hammocks would be huge because you're not lying on the ground the whole time. Like.

[Rider Strong]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

Being. Being above the. The. The nastiness and the sand and all that stuff would feel like you were in a waterbed at that point.

[Rider Strong]

Oh, my God.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Relaxation.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Be amazing.

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[Rider Strong]

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[Rider Strong]

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[Rider Strong]

So everyone finds out that Jenna was the one voted out and Kyle was pulled from the game and way more.

[Will Friedle]

They were way more upset about Kyle being pulled than Jenna being voted out. You notice that?

[Rider Strong]

So true.

[Will Friedle]

So everyone's like, oh, Jenna's gone. Then they were like Kyle. It was a big difference.

[Rider Strong]

It turns out Camilla played. They were. Kyle and Camilla were like total allies in season 48. So.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

So she really like starts, you know.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Which is true because it's so interesting when you have those kinds of historical alliances in a game like, you know, or this early in the game, that's really a part of your plan is that eventually you might end up on the same tribe together. Yeah. So you really hope that like somebody you're aligned with is on another tribe working their own game and then you can merge your alliances when the, the tribes merge. So you can see Camilla's, you know, really bummed and understand.

[Will Friedle]

I also think there's a psychological aspect to it as well where it's okay. There's things I can do to kind of stave off the possibility of being voted off of the island. I can win challenges, I can do whatever. Injuries can hit us anytime.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And it's like that could have been me so easily. And it's the worst way to go out because he's been there for three days at that point and he did something where he needed surgery like two days later. So it was a, it was a significant injury. And I think there's something psychological to that as well.

[Rider Strong]

Totally. And this is, you know, going back to your point about this season too. This season is a lot of older people because.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Rider Strong]

Returning champions and they've been around for, I mean, you know, Jenna was 20 years ago or whatever, 25 years ago. So like that. Because usually the game is mostly populated by like 20 somethings and of course

[Will Friedle]

injuries like Rizzo and all these other people.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah. Oh, that's like that. It's predominantly you. Like there's always like a couple older people, like maybe in their 40s and 50s. But like this seems like because, you know, because they're bringing people back. It's like a majority. So even Aussie who's like, you know, physically in like great shape. He talks about how he was like back spasming after the supplies challenge, which then opens a door for Coach to set the record straight.

[Will Friedle]

Did he?

[Rider Strong]

Well, I don't understand. Like, it's so weird.

[Will Friedle]

That's the thing.

[Rider Strong]

It's like he describes exactly what he did, which is pretty much as far as I can tell, what Ozzy represented it too. Right.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Right. So it's really just that Coach assumed Ozzy was talking about him when actually Ozzy just described it. Exactly.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

As it happened. But for some reason Coach saw that as a dent to his, you know, his honor.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Which is hysterical because it's like, dude, the only dent to the. You did it. Like you did the thing. Which is why I love Ozzy's response is like, I think he's going to play the game exactly how he.

[Will Friedle]

I mean like, I wish I knew then their relationship because I know that because everyone was like, oh, they're cutting people going like, oh. And I was like, what? What's.

[Rider Strong]

Oh, what?

[Will Friedle]

What happened? So, yeah, they have a history.

[Rider Strong]

The thing about Coach and I think what, you know, I find annoying ultimately is not so much like, it's not so much the way he plays. It's the way he talks about himself, the way he plays. Like he presents it as if he's this like honorable. Enlightened. Yes. He's like the white knight. And it's like, you're not, dude, you're. You're, you're a manipulative, selfish, you know, player. Just like, you know, like you, you listen to the way that Devins, you know, Rick Devins talks about.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Playing the game and it's a realist way to play. Right. And like, you may not always agree with it, but it is realistic to. You're gonna have to lie at some point to somebody's face. You're gonna.

[Will Friedle]

They even say that people were like, oh, wow, you lied on Survivor. Oh, what are the chances of that?

[Rider Strong]

It's like.

[Will Friedle]

So I think it's part of the game.

[Rider Strong]

And so. Right. And I think Kobe coach has a tendency to minimize his own manipulation and make it seem like he's an honorable player and that he's this sort of. And that's just. It's. It's douche twat behavior.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. Dtp. Dtp. Dtb. DTB is what it is. Yes. Dtb.

[Rider Strong]

All right, so we've. After this, you know, weird moment where coach decides to, like, toot his own horn and say exactly what everyone kind of already knew. They get into this challenge, which is. Opens with, like, one of my favorite things. I have to smash this, like, jump off. Doesn't it look so satisfying?

[Will Friedle]

It does. And you smash it, then you land in the water afterwards.

[Rider Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, yeah.

[Rider Strong]

And it was like. It was just, like, so much fun until I saw Aubrey miss it, and then I was like, that would be me. And it must feel like such.

[Will Friedle]

Plus, she was the only one who did sports ball. She was also the only one who did. This is where we need the. Oh, no. Oh, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it's also. But the thing. They plan these things really well. Because I was thinking, yeah, if you do miss it like she did, all your momentum's going forward and you are full belly flop. Yep. Which is exactly what happened to her.

[Rider Strong]

So I was in an acting class in Berkeley when I was a teenager, like, right. Right when Boy Meets World started. And then I. I would go back and visit every once in a while. And there was a guy in that class who was one of, like, his name was Miles, and he was hysterical and a very good improviser. And he reached out to me through Facebook, I want to say, in 2008 or nine, whenever. The last time I was on Facebook and he was working with a company, he had a company where they designed the games for Survivor.

[Will Friedle]

Cool.

[Rider Strong]

The challenges.

[Will Friedle]

I know that would be fun.

[Rider Strong]

I want to reach out to him. I want to try and find him, because I. I pretty sure I remember his last name or I can figure it out and if he's still doing that or even if not, we should have him on to just talk about it. Absolutely. How cool would that be of a job, like, to just. You get your friends together and you have to. And, you know, and obviously they have to run it and figure out, like, you know, how to dial in the difficulty because, like, it seems pretty fair, right? Like, yes. The way that these challenges are worked out, you're like, yeah. Like, even if you suck at one aspect of it, you can make it up with another. Like, they do such a good job with these challenges. I just.

[Will Friedle]

Just. Well, when you go. I mean, the second challenge is the perfect example. When you go, you know, which we'll get to. But when you go from having to carry something really heavy to then having to be delicate with these strings to do something else, it's two completely different skill sets. So, yeah, it's. I. I think they do. They're keeping it fair. Y.

[Rider Strong]

So they gotta smash the tiles to get the key and walk across this, like, balance beam without falling and then

[Will Friedle]

dive back into the water.

[Rider Strong]

Right? Dive back into the water to, like, release the rings. Yikes. And they gotta go deep. You see how deep they have to go? Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

And, dude, there have been people on previous seasons who, like, aren't great swimmers. And I'm like, why are you doing survival for, like.

[Will Friedle]

Well, that's what I was thinking.

[Rider Strong]

I was thinking myself.

[Will Friedle]

I'm like, I wear one glass contact lens. I cannot open my eyes underwater, or it's sucked out of my eye. I've done it before, so what do I do?

[Rider Strong]

I've wondered about that, like, with the. With the context thing. Like, I. I'm not. Because there was one season where they actually a. They eliminated a guy, if I'm remembering correctly, because he had decided to go off his antidepressants, and they were like, that's too big of a risk for us.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I can see that.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And they talk about that, like, in the. In the. In the. Like, as in the tribal council. It's like, we're getting rid of you because you went off of your meds.

[Rider Strong]

No, no, no. The show got rid of him.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, wow.

[Rider Strong]

The show came in and said, hey, we've. Because they. He had updated his medical, like, you know, its intake or whatever and said, no, I decided to go off my medication. The. The course that I'm on this. And they were like, that's kind of too big of a deal. Because if you become depressed or suicidal or, like, if there. Your brain chemistry is not what you've represented it as. Like, that's a risk for us as a show. Yeah. Super interesting. And so I'm always. But what that revealed to me is, like, the questions of, like. Yeah, like, because you see some people wearing glasses. Right. I'm like, could you wear contacts? Like, I have monthly contacts, but I still have to take them out every night.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And you.

[Rider Strong]

So I would have to just wear glasses.

[Will Friedle]

And then it's like, I can't wear glasses because I have. It's a medical reason that I have my one eye as. My glass eye, as you and Daniel like to point out. So it's like, that's what I thought about. It's like, well, I couldn't be the one to dive under the water to get something because I can't see underwater.

[Rider Strong]

And I wonder, like, you know, one of my good friends has diabetes, and he's, like, super physical.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Rider Strong]

You know, he needs an injection every day.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

So could he do Survivor? Would they allow him to?

[Will Friedle]

Like, probably, maybe if they have the medical. Because, I mean, we showed. They showed in this episode specifically, which I found was really interesting, which I'm sure. Which we're definitely going to get to that medical. Or somebody's there to save you instantly.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah. Right.

[Will Friedle]

If, like, they're right there.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So I imagine, you know, you could get an insulin shot a day kind of thing. Right.

[Rider Strong]

That's what I would. I would assume that, like, to level the playing field to a certain degree. Right. Like, they're not going to let people starve, but they also shouldn't let somebody. But then again, if you're not capable of surviving on a beach. Right.

[Will Friedle]

Like, who knows?

[Rider Strong]

Somebody who can't walk, let's say. Right. Like, that would be just too hard. So.

[Will Friedle]

Or even smaller. Somebody who has asthma. I mean, it's like, what if you have a bad asthma attack? Are you allowed to have your inhaler? Okay.

[Rider Strong]

This is probably one of those moments where our listeners, everyone's gonna be like,

[Will Friedle]

what are you talking about?

[Rider Strong]

Yes. They know exactly, exactly what the rules are. And we're not gonna look them up. We're just gonna pretend like we know everything exactly. Like we're experts. So challenge starts. They get the. It's fun to watch. Everyone does pretty well.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. The one thing I do like about this is that it seems like they are all pretty close.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

You know, it's. It's never like, okay, well, they vatu. Which is not this one.

[Rider Strong]

These people know. There are times when people are like, I did not realize this show would be so hard. Like, there was a season, I think it was 47 or 48, where for, like, I think the first time, two different people just dropped out. Out.

[Will Friedle]

Really?

[Rider Strong]

They were just like, this is too hard. I don't want to do this. You guys can vote me out.

[Will Friedle]

And everyone's like, I'm telling you, it's generational. It is.

[Rider Strong]

At that time, it was very generational. They were definitely younger, like, and they were just like. And you're like, what?

[Will Friedle]

Did you expect they expected a tick tock reel and to get famous? That's what they expected. That's what they expected. And then it's like, oh, wait, you need me to be Sandy and grab firewood? I can't do that. I've never lifted anything in my life but my phone.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, yeah. It was hard to watch, man. It was, you know, because I felt sorry for them a little bit. But then you're also like, what did you expect? Like, and I also.

[Will Friedle]

I. I always look at it like this because they do this in the UFC too, where. And it's one of the things the president of the UFC hates the most is you have to make weight. And it's like, if you. You don't make weight, you can't fight. And the thing that pisses them off so much is like, do you realize you just took the place of somebody that would have worked their ass off to be here? That's so. It's like, you came here, you. You made it on Survivor, and now you're going to tap out because it's a little hard. You know how many, many thousands of people would love to take your place? Yeah. And so it's like, dude, that's just not cool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

I guess that's worse than pooping your pants on Survivor, dude.

[Will Friedle]

If you can't poop your pants on national television, you ain't. Oh.

[Rider Strong]

But you just know that for the rest of his life, everyone's gonna be like, which one was Christian? Yeah, he's the guy who shit his pants. That's why he just knows. It's like, no matter what he does the rest of the season.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, he's smart guy.

[Rider Strong]

Poopy pants. Smart guy. He. He. He smart. Started a fire with glasses for the first time. No one's gonna remember that. I already forgot that we only call him Christian Poopy.

[Will Friedle]

Unfortunately, he's Piggy from Lord of the Rings. Is. Is who he is.

[Rider Strong]

Oh, my God. Oh, I love him. All right.

[Will Friedle]

Hopefully I do, too. I love him.

[Rider Strong]

He's my.

[Will Friedle]

He's my favorite.

[Rider Strong]

I want poopy pants.

[Will Friedle]

I want poopy pants.

[Rider Strong]

Ceela wins and Kayla wins second. So over at Vatu, Genevieve is drinking this sour coconut water, trying to convince,

[Will Friedle]

like, coconut comes in different flavors. That just sounds like that's a bad coconut.

[Rider Strong]

Yes, yes, I totally. And this is where Aubry has this moment. She's like, I'm surrounded by lunatics. Which is super interesting because I. I really did like Aubry from her season, you know? Okay. I've talked about her last. She was very much like the underdog in that situation. And did she win? She was in the top three. I don't know. I can't, honestly. I can see, this is the thing. I can't remember, man, but I do know that she did, did very well. Okay. And was sort of one of these people that you didn't expect to because she physically wasn't, like, really aggressive and didn't feel comfortable on the beach and all these ways and very similar to the way she's acting in this one. But, but you know her, she's sort of just an odd person, you know, like, she's just a little like. And you can see that, like, Genevieve is already, like, you know, not trusting her, and then they decide to go through her bag.

[Will Friedle]

Dude. Seems like I, I, I just know, man. Super invasive to me where it's like.

[Rider Strong]

And I love, hey, this makes you a dirty rotten. You know, whatever. But we're doing it anyway.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, well, they're like, if you do this on the street, you're the worst person in the world. But here on Survivor, you kind of got to do what you got to do. Do people. Can you steal other people's and destroy their stuff? And I mean, is that all legal?

[Rider Strong]

Kind of. I mean, it's, it's sort of like, you know, I mean, you had people be like, get caught going through other people's stuff, using other people's stuff and getting very upset about it. There's been confrontations. I mean, there, you know, but it's just really, it's up to the tribe to how they want to manage these kinds of things. I find it interesting that everybody's against Aubrey. Like, I couldn't believe that not one person was like, well, she's on my, you know, like, she and I have an alliance and, and defending her and no, they're all like the whole rest of the tribe is like, coordinating who's going to look out, who's going to distract while we, like, go through her crap. I was like, man, that's not a good sign. You know, like, if you don't have somebody having your back, she's going to be very alone. Turns out to be, you know, not that big of a. As big of a deal because she gets that boomerang. Yeah, Billy Idol gets the Billy Idol. But we'll get, we'll get to that. All right, so Jonathan the Beast, the he man, super Jesus. I mean, just like every time I

[Will Friedle]

look at him, I feel less and less like A man every single time.

[Rider Strong]

Oh, God.

[Will Friedle]

And again, another 45 minutes trying to find those pants and I can't find him. I don't. I almost.

[Rider Strong]

I noticed that I'm like, how do I.

[Will Friedle]

How do I. I do a Google image search because I don't know how to do that. So I took a snapshot of them

[Rider Strong]

because you can't find just like mismatched.

[Will Friedle]

Not those. I want to find those. You find patchwork pants, but I can't find those. I need someone to find those specific pants for me. And then I'd get them in little boy sizes, which would fit me. But that's what.

[Rider Strong]

That's what.

[Will Friedle]

That's what I want.

[Rider Strong]

So huge.

[Will Friedle]

And just a beast too. I mean, just a. That's the guy. He'd be my first pick. That's the guy you want on your team. Team, Yep.

[Rider Strong]

So he's out fishing and coach goes with him and gets this crazy cramp in his legs, which is just like,

[Will Friedle]

dude, have you ever had one? You ever had a cramp in doing something where you literally can't walk?

[Rider Strong]

No.

[Will Friedle]

They are. They incapacitate you. You have. One is bad enough where your whole muscle is twitching and you can't put any weight on it. So while you're swimming. He was. It was not hyperbole. You get that when you're by yourself, you could easily drown in die easily because you can't move your legs. It's horrible. So that's when I was like, oh, smart.

[Rider Strong]

They've got.

[Will Friedle]

There's a boat like 10 seconds away. Which makes total sense, of course.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah. Cuz I mean, you're in the ocean, man. Somebody.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Just. It only takes like 30 seconds and somebody's gone.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

It's just so intense to see like nothing happening. You know, it looks like nothing's wrong. The poor guy can walk.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

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[Rider Strong]

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[Rider Strong]

All right. Over at Sila, Azie pitches an alliance to Devin and Savannah and says he wants Joe to be a part of it as well. And then there's this moment with Devin and, and Joe cuz like Devin's whispers to Savannah or Savannah whispers to Devin's and then Joe is like, like what are you whisper about you don't want. Right. And Devin's lies pretty poorly.

[Will Friedle]

It's oh he's terrible. Yeah, my God, he lies as bad as Candace did on, on Traders.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah. But then it gets into this whole interesting thing and this is where, you know, I think you asked can you play honorably and you can see how actually playing honorably makes it harder sometimes.

[Will Friedle]

Total detriment. Everyone's like I can't, I can't take his honorability.

[Rider Strong]

Well, you can see it's annoying. Joe's like, he's like basically nodding, not accepting the terms of the game. You know, and this is what I felt this a little bit with Traders. Sometimes when people are like you're a snake and you're like that literally is the name of the game. Like I'm a traitor.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

So it's sort of the same thing. But I just love what Christian is like, we need a, we need a jotation to keep an eye on.

[Will Friedle]

I love when Devin's was just like. I think it was Devin's was just like, yeah, it's Survivor. You don't go up to somebody and ask what they're whispering about. You just assume that somebody's gonna whisper to somebody else.

[Rider Strong]

We're Playing Survivor, compares it to football. Right. And he's like, you don't say, like, don't touch anybody. We don't want to hurt anybody. That's what you do.

[Will Friedle]

That's what you do.

[Rider Strong]

I love that. It's so true. It's. You know, and you can see, like, it's.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

I hope Joe adjusts because he's a really good guy. You know, he's a firefighter. Yes. But it's that, like, straightforward. I mean, that's kind of the way I feel like I would end up being like.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. But I see the difference is it seems like he's that guy who talks like that and really lives that. That where Coach talks like that but doesn't actually live that way.

[Rider Strong]

Perfectly put. I totally agree.

[Will Friedle]

You know, it's.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, but it's interesting because it's probably going to hurt Joe more than Coach. Like, Coach's strategy is actually going to probably work and keep him in the game. I know.

[Will Friedle]

Guys do finish last, man.

[Rider Strong]

I know. It's a bummer. It's terrible. And that's what he says because he really did get screwed over by Kyle and Camila in his season. So he says those references.

[Will Friedle]

I wish I knew what that meant, but it sounds like he was in an alliance with two people that he trusted who just screwed him up.

[Rider Strong]

Well, you can just see he puts his heart out there. Right? Like, he is. Is. He is. So, like, if I trust you, I trust you. It's. You know, it reminds me there have been a couple cops and firefighters over the years, and it always. It's so interesting because it really does remind me of my father. My father has this. This way. It's something that I think comes with the territory of being a cop or a firefighter where you're dealing with people in really high stress situations, like, all the time. Right. And you have to be the voice of authority to, like, calm them down or to give them horrible noose. You know, like, we lost your. Your partner in the fire or somebody. This person's not coming back. We tried to resuscitate them. And so, like, my dad has this way of speaking that is, like, very clear. It's very forthright, and I've always really appreciated that. You know, like, it's. It's a. It's a powerful thing to be able to say, like, hey, I'm not lying to you. I am being straight with you. And I am.

[Will Friedle]

I'm.

[Rider Strong]

I'm not going to sugarcoat things. And I can see Joe doing that, and I Do really like it. But you can see, man, it's going to drive everybody crazy. They might. They consider voting him out because of it.

[Will Friedle]

Because I know it's also about what. Exactly what you're talking about when it comes to the trust thing with police officers and firefighters too, though, it's like the piece. The people that you're with are. Could save your life.

[Rider Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

I need to trust you. I'm going to run into a burning building and I need to know that you're right behind me.

[Rider Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

And I don't. I'm not going to look back. I just know you're there. Right.

[Rider Strong]

It's military too. Right. Militaries too. Very similar. It's like on. And it's like you have to have this value system of like absolute clarity and reliance on one another that, you know, most of us don't have.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

And in Survivor it seems like it's actually a weirdly a liability which is, you know, it's different from season. There have been other seasons where I'm sure that people do want to play that way, but in this case, man, you're dealing with a lot of really, really smart game players. So they're going to. They're going to. Yeah. All right. Over at Vatu, Rza and Angelina being lazy, just really upset. Just sitting around like they're not doing anything.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

That would drive me crazy. I could be. I could be lazy as the next guy unless there's people around me counting on me and then I'm going to find something to do, right? Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

And it's funny because, like, this actually hasn't happened that much. Like, they don't talk about like, I feel like most seasons everybody's pretty much pulled their weight. Like, like there have been whole seasons where like an entire tribe just doesn't even build their shelter and they. Yeah. Like, they're just like, like the whole tribe is lazier. They just want to like swim and hang out. But I feel like that's happened less and less. It seems like mostly people know, like they come on, they got to take care of their crap, keep everybody else happy, provide something to the tribe. But in this case, it's, it's. I was shocked to see that the younger people were not. Not doing anything. It's like, guys.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Do something. Well, that's the younger generation.

[Bowen Yang]

Sorry.

[Rider Strong]

All right, now the immunity challenge taking place in the jungle. This 200 pound survivor snake bringing it back through a set of obstacles that just looked miserable.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah. Dude. When you have to crawl through the sand like that. I'm always just like, no, thanks.

[Will Friedle]

Through the sand. Through a net. Yeah, that's a weighted net. And that was the first thing you had to do with this giant snake. I mean, that looked. That was crazy to me. Crazy.

[Rider Strong]

Then they have to do this crazy ball challenge thing with three of them. Basically, it's sort of like a human video game. Right. Like, how do we keep this ball from. You know, but having to like, learn to control it together as it's.

[Will Friedle]

Well, don't you remember the game at the. Where you might. You might have been too young, but I doubt it. We were close enough in age. It's. You had the metal ball at the top and you had the two metal. Long metal things and you had to kind of. I don't even know how to describe it yet. To manipulate the ball around the. Around the thing that then drop it in the hole. No, if there's two long metal pipes like this and then a ball at the top and you can't let the ball drop. You have to like manipulate the things down and then move it over and drop it in a hole. So it was like the adult version of that, essentially. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Super cool.

[Rider Strong]

Super cool. Cuz they have to work together. You know, it's like it's not an individual puzzle. It's like we have to like all be. And it's. I love that. I love that it was all about communication, but it's also.

[Will Friedle]

Not only is about communication but. But the way you win this game is somebody needs to take charge and everybody else needs to shut their mouth and listen to that one person.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Because it's like, I need you to be. All right, listen, you need to go here. You need to go. If you're going, I'm going to go here. No, I'm going to go. It's never going to work. So you got to almost instantly select a leader and then listen to that person. Really interesting.

[Rider Strong]

And. But wasn't it interesting how much like, Rizzo came through in this part of the game? He was team, you know, he was great. Yeah, yeah. So when they get to the snakes, by the way, did you notice they have to untie them? Yes. Okay. So this is something that Alex and I have always say. There's a lot of knots in Survivor and we've always said since we first started watching, it's like the first thing I would do to trade for Survivor is sit around untying knots all learn all day because they have to. And. And like there were. There have Been seasons where it's like, literally the whole challenge is just like, 10 minutes of not untying.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Rider Strong]

And there have been, like, I think Charlie was the one I was talking about who. Who. Who worked up certain muscles. Like, he also. There have been people who've, like, built just not mazes in their house to, like, work their way through to, like, get good at it. So there's certain.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, certain knots that if you recognize them, you tug them a certain way and they instantly unfold.

[Rider Strong]

Like, totally. But I think the way that these are is just literally, like, it's just a time consuming thing to slow you down. So just. You have a lot of knots.

[Will Friedle]

I noticed that too. Like, now you got to open the lock and do this, and it's like, okay, little. Little piddly things that can take a lot of time. Time.

[Rider Strong]

Exactly. And really screw you up, you know, on top of, you know, all the physical.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

So Colby really makes up for Rizzo having a slow start. Beast Jonathan does a dive bomb roll with the snake. Did you notice that the thing, like,

[Will Friedle]

dude, outside the ropes, I'm like, this

[Rider Strong]

guy literally looks like the Hulk if he had green skin. He has the Hulk's body. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Just like, he reminds me of Jason Momoa. Like. Like an actual Momoa. Yeah, it's.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, it was like, dude, my first. Yeah. I want.

[Will Friedle]

I want that guy. Then I want somebody who's really good with strategy. Those two people are my first two picks. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

And, well, he and he and Rizzo are on the same team, so.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

So Sila loses this challenge.

[Will Friedle]

Again.

[Rider Strong]

Bums me out, man.

[Will Friedle]

Again, that's two in a row.

[Rider Strong]

I know. And I love everybody on that team.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

I really do.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

So this was a bummer for me. I mean, I. In general, like I said, in general, I really like a lot of people this season, but Sila is, like, kind of all of my favorites.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Rider Strong]

I really like that Ciri and Ozzy have each other's back because that's like a combo. Like, that's a magical combo. That's really cool.

[Will Friedle]

The two of them together, too. She, you know, again, I'm getting to learn all these characters. Yeah. She works a room so freaking well.

[Rider Strong]

Dude.

[Will Friedle]

Could you believe one or two nuggets? And she kind of walks out perfectly.

[Rider Strong]

She's like, I let them come up with the strategy that I basically Jedi mind tricked them into.

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[Rider Strong]

It's.

[Will Friedle]

She's so, you know, you don't need to see my identification. Yeah. These aren't.

[Rider Strong]

She's amazing.

[Will Friedle]

Looking for.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

But then even more amazing to me was that Emily and who, who else was it like Savannah and Emily figure that out. They're like, oh, cerise protecting Ozzy. So like they're also like four dimensional chess players.

[Will Friedle]

Everybody's getting it all the time. It must just be because you're just, just heightened. It's like traders. The heightened anxiety and paranoia you must feel every freaking day. What did that look mean? What did that person say? Why are they walking and getting sticks together? Where's my bag? My bag wasn't over there. It must be insane. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

You know, I'm, I really just felt sorry for them having to vote somebody out. It sucks. You know, have they ever done partners

[Will Friedle]

where it's like, like, like partners where you're going on to Survivor knowing for a fact that there's one person that has your back, like it's husband.

[Rider Strong]

Well, there was a mother daughter team where the daughter voted her mom out.

[Will Friedle]

No. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah. It's like a legendary moment. Yeah. They've, I, I, they have brought people in. Like, I, I'm not sure if they did it as overall as a whole season. I think that maybe had been the case, but certainly, yeah, there have been those kinds of things. I think they end up separating them early on and then, you know, you find you get back together. But how do you vote for your mom?

[Will Friedle]

Dude, it's hardcore. That is an uncomfortable Thanksgiving.

[Rider Strong]

Or you know, you just know that like she would do the same to you if it meant, you know, winning a million dollars or not.

[Will Friedle]

You know, they had some sort of a pact before they went in. Like, all right, if you got to vote me out, vote me out. We split the money, whatever, one of us has to win kind of thing.

[Rider Strong]

Yes. You have to understand the game. That's, that's what I didn't like about that trader scenario where it was like we know each other, we would never let's like. But then you would be playing the game horribly. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

No, you're right.

[Rider Strong]

You'd be breaking the rules of the game.

[Will Friedle]

So we kind of saw that with, with Tara and. Yeah. Johnny.

[Rider Strong]

Yep. Yeah. So Joe, you know, is, I love him but he's got a problem like he's struggling like getting people to like him or people just want to deal with his like.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

His aggressive honor. Like you gotta be this way. Serie really does like manage to get everybody off of Ozzy, which is so cool.

[Will Friedle]

I don't know if they edit it this way or if she just dropped two or three quick things Quick nuggets. And everyone was like, she's right. Yeah. Because it seemed instantaneous.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah. Well, I don't think anybody really wanted to vote out Ozzy because they want to. We. They. They need to win challenges in order to. To not be in this situation. So you don't want to vote out somebody who's physically giving you a huge leg up like he is. And he's also feeding them. You know, he fishes.

[Will Friedle]

He's a monster in these challenges, too.

[Rider Strong]

That's the thing.

[Matt Rogers]

You just.

[Rider Strong]

You don't. You don't want to vote him out except that he might win the game. So it's like that weird thing of, like, at what point do we blindside Aussie? It's kind of the question, like. And this is why Ben was telling

[Will Friedle]

us where he's like the. But the way you're supposed to play traders is you figure out who you know the trader is going to be, then keep them there till the end. Exactly. So that same kind of thing. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Ozzy decides to give siree his extra vote as a thank you, which I thought is so sweet. I love this partnership, man.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, this is. This was.

[Rider Strong]

Was.

[Will Friedle]

I'm trying to figure out the rules. He has an idol.

[Rider Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

That was. So he can't be voted out. He's got the b. The boomerang if he can't be voted out.

[Rider Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

And. And he had an extra vote. So he had two things.

[Rider Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

And he decided to give one to s. Yep. Gotcha.

[Rider Strong]

And sere has played survivor five times and has never had her own advantage, which is amazing. Which is amazing. Like, that's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So did we talk about how poopy pants found an idol?

[Rider Strong]

That's what I'm about to get into. We cut over. Cut over to the Christian. Well, actually, sorry. It's at the same tribe where he's. He's. I just love that he's, like, literally rocking Joe in the hammock to, like, calm him down and just be like, well, maybe we're playing the game correctly. And you could just see, like, he's basically like, like, So good. That's what I mean. I love everybody on this drive because even when they're, like, actually having to be against each other, they're still trying to be so nice about it. And they're all like, God, but yeah. But then poopy pants finds an idol,

[Will Friedle]

which is just their faces when they find an idol, their faces when they light up. Oh, my God. It's amazing.

[Rider Strong]

It's so fun to watch.

[Will Friedle]

It's a meme every time they find an idol. Yes. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

So he finds another Billie Eilish Boomerang idol, which we're affectionately referring to as the Billy Idol.

[Will Friedle]

The Billy Idols.

[Rider Strong]

The Billy idol. And he decides to give it to Aubrey, which is super interesting that he intuits basically from Aubrey's previous gameplay that she is a strategist who could probably use it because. And she really could use it. And I think it's hysterical that they searched her back for an idol and if it had happened after, like, she could have potentially. They could have potentially found her idol before she did. Cuz they actually hid the idol in her bag. So she just opened her bag and was like, oh, my God, there's an idol in here. So it's so interesting that that happened. Question. If.

[Will Friedle]

If you. If they. Let's say for the sake of argument, they opened her bag and they found the idol, can they take it or is it her idol title?

[Rider Strong]

It's. She has to transfer it. She has to give it. They can't.

[Will Friedle]

So someone can't steal it from you. Gotcha.

[Rider Strong]

Gotcha. No, but you can transfer. Sometimes you can't transfer, as I think in this case you can't. I think they might have said that you can't give it to anybody else.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, no, I don't think you had. You had to give it to somebody that wasn't in your tribe and then it comes back to you if they're voted off with it in their pocket.

[Rider Strong]

But I also think there's a rule that they can't give it to anybody else.

[Will Friedle]

No, they can't. Yeah, it's. It's.

[Rider Strong]

It's there because normally if you just find like a full idol on your. Your beach, like there have been seasons where all there are is just like, you know, an idol and you find it, you can hand that to somebody else.

[Will Friedle]

Gotcha.

[Rider Strong]

There have also been instances, and this is my favorite, where people make fake idols.

[Will Friedle]

Well, they did it this week.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, right. Well, we haven't seen exact. I didn't understand what was going on and I'm still very curious what they're doing.

[Will Friedle]

But.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, but there have been times where somebody's made a fake idol, told somebody that they have it and given it to them and said, you can use this. And then that poor person has gone to play it and been told like, Jeff Probst, like, hands and goes, this is not a real immunity idol. And then the poor person gets voted out. It's so embarrassing.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, my God.

[Rider Strong]

So wait they.

[Will Friedle]

He tells them after they voted, they play it.

[Rider Strong]

They. They like, announce, I'm gonna play my idol. And then they have to give it to Jeff. And Jeff knows because he's, you know, on the producerial side. He's kept track of what is a real idol and not. And he's been able to, like, look at some beaded thing that somebody's put together by collecting rocks and stuff. They've made idols, and he'll just be like, that's not a real idol. And then that poor person doesn't. You know, they'll just get it.

[Will Friedle]

Seems like they should be. They should tell him when they go to play it, not after they've been voted out. Oh, that's so mean. So why wouldn't you just do that all the time? Be like, hey, dude, you're. You're. You're immune. Here's an idol, right? Oh, yikes. Oh, that's awful.

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All right. The scramble before tribal is pretty intense. Turns out to not actually be that intense. It's kind of what sere and azie set in motion plays out. But there is this moment where it's like. It does feel like the tension shifts back to Aussie because everyone's like. Like, you know, siree is just doing this for Aussie and everyone can see their relationship developing.

[Will Friedle]

Did you think he was going to play his idol?

[Rider Strong]

No, but I was worried that they. Because they could have, you know, just. Yeah, because they don't know that he has an idol. Right?

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, she does.

[Will Friedle]

I think Serenos. Right.

[Rider Strong]

I'm not sure if she does. I'm assuming because he gave her extra vote. I don't know if he actually has told her because he's been voted out with idol and idol. I know.

[Will Friedle]

Which is.

[Rider Strong]

That's.

[Will Friedle]

Sometimes you'd think you'd be gunshine. You'd be like, I'm playing it. I'm playing it.

[Rider Strong]

I know, but you. You want to hold on to it because he knows he's going to get blindsided. You know, he. And yeah. But anyway, they always heighten the drama. Like a lot of times you go into tribal and like, they actually pretty much all know the plan and then, you know, the producers just edit it

[Will Friedle]

to make it sounds like they did this week. They knew. They knew when they all vote for the same person, you know, the plans already set in motion.

[Rider Strong]

And before. Right before they go to tribal, Christian and Devin have this conversation where they. I didn't know what they were doing. Where they're going to create a fake idol and, like, leave it.

[Will Friedle]

Like, it turns out they're.

[Rider Strong]

They're going to wrap up a fake idol and leave it at the tribal council area for somebody in another tribe to find or maybe they're going to leave a clue for one of their own tribe. I don't know. It's a weird, weird choice. I'm not sure how it's all going to play out.

[Will Friedle]

They were.

[Rider Strong]

We didn't get to see the idol that they faked. Did nobody.

[Will Friedle]

It work so well together? No. We just know that he had the wrapping from the original one. They wrapped it up to look like the regular thing. They did the Greatest sleight of hand, essentially, to get to tide it there. And I'm dying to know I was. Because I'm the same thing. So I don't know. I'm like, okay, what is. What does that do? But knowing that you can have a fake idol and then play it and be like, I'm safe, and it turns out you're not, is just. Oh, God, that's harsh. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

All right. So at the tribal council, Joe brings up his argument with Devin. I thought this was really nice. Like, you know, they kind of hash it out. Joe doesn't quite apologize, but nope, you know, does admit his own stubbornness and his own, you know, like, inability to. To be the kind of player that Devins is.

[Will Friedle]

And now you said these can get contentious. Because I haven't. So far. It's been just like, I love playing with everybody. And here's my. I didn't want to. I want to apologize for ever I did this week, kind of.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, no, people are. These are really good players cares. You know, it's. They. They know that you don't reveal anything at tribal because the second you open your mouth and you start, like, letting beef come out in front of everybody, you're a target.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

You become the target. Like, it doesn't help you. That's why, like, Coach talking about that Aussie situation, it's like, dude, just stop. Like, just. No one cares. No one cares that much of you. Your ego got hurt. Your ego got bruised. You're worried about your reputation in a game where literally everybody's voting everybody else out. Like, yeah, nobody really cares that much. And I. I think Mike is. Mike White is very aware that. I love the way he always has this slightly eating grin on his face when stuff like that happens. He's just like, I. I see what's going on here.

[Will Friedle]

And he's the kid who throws a cherry bomb in the toilet and then walks away when it explodes and looks around like, who did that? Perfect.

[Rider Strong]

Exactly. And I think that's why he's kind of beloved, because everyone's like, yep. Yeah. You know, like, he's not like a villain. He. He's just having a little bit of fun. He's a roadrunner. Me. Me. Totally. Trickster. Trickster.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly.

[Rider Strong]

Totally. And then, yeah, Savannah talks. She gets emotional about how hard it is to be vulnerable, which I really appreciated. You know, like, I can see this is like, man. And it's unfortunate that she gives that speech right before she's voter out and.

[Will Friedle]

And she's the one who won the last season, who they didn't know yet. Okay. So she's gone from like, she's like, I had a week off, essentially.

[Rider Strong]

Yep. She's probably a good.

[Will Friedle]

A good part of her is probably really relieved to be off that damn island right now.

[Rider Strong]

She's a really good player, though.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Like, I was impressed to be able to keep up with the. These people, these. This level of playing. And like I said, she was like, she was hip to, like, what was going on in her tribe and, like, very sophisticated and like, when she did her challenge, you know, by herself, like, she's just. She. She's played well and she had an

[Will Friedle]

extra vote from the Colby thing. That's what it was. Which wouldn't have helped her in any way, shape or form anyway.

[Rider Strong]

No. Because it looks like, yeah, everybody just turned on her. But so my problem so far, like, my. I going back to like when you. You asked in the opening, the first fan choice, which was that they, you know, don't get flint, they don't get skin. You know, this is. That's what's happening where like the thing that I was. I explained to you that could happen, which is that the. The struggling tribe, in this case the tribe without fire, they don't have flint and they. They got fire with their. But they don't have any fishing gear. Right. They. I guess they got their. They got the. The camp improvement this. This time.

[Will Friedle]

That's hard.

[Rider Strong]

But, like, you see that once one tribe starts losing, sometimes they just keep losing. And I'm afraid that that's happening. Like the snowball effect of like, Sila, which is full of good people and good players just because they're. They're going down and they're losing morale and they're start. It sucks, man.

[Will Friedle]

They're going to be picked off one at a time now.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, this will happen where it just like literally comes down to two people on a tribe and they're like, what do we do? And then they just have to merge them into other tribes. And what sucks about that is they come into an established tribe on the bottom always.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, sure, yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Because they come in, everybody has voted out.

[Will Friedle]

Yep. That's what they. Great person to vote out here. Good. Because we have no allegiance to this person.

[Rider Strong]

Exactly. I mean, what you ultimately want is your tribe to go merge with another tribe, hopefully with like four or five of you or at least three of you, so you can go in with your alliance, you know.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Rider Strong]

But the problem is you, by the time it gets to that, you might hate half the people on your own tribe. It gets really complicated socially once. Once the merge happens, but yeah. So I just hope that Cela can come back just for the sake of the gameplay, because I just hate seeing one team get screwed. But also because you like everybody else. I'm team Sila, man. These are my people. I'm totally just. I'm going to put my heart on the line. I'm laying it out there. I care about them. I like them.

[Will Friedle]

I was team Colby. I am all in on poopy pants. I'll be honest with you.

[Rider Strong]

They're the best.

[Will Friedle]

Do you also notice his shirt with the robots?

[Rider Strong]

Yeah. What does it say? 10:1.

[Will Friedle]

It's. Yeah, well, it's. It's 01 or 001011. So it's binary code, but there's three different. Oh, I have no idea. But it's. It's a cool binary shirt. It's. I'm sure it means something. I'm sure it means. I don't understand. But just the fact that it's three robots and it's binary code, I thought was really cool.

[Rider Strong]

All right, well, if somebody out there knows, please know. Binary code.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. 0, 1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, 1. I think it is. Or whatever it is. Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

So I have to tell you this because I thought about it when they. They voted Savannah out. So if you notice when they, you know, they lose their fire, that's how you get. That's how you're extinguished from the game. Is that they.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right? Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

They cap it.

[Rider Strong]

And so he. Every time he says the tribe has spoken and he snuffs their. Their torch and then. Then they walk away. Indy, for years thought that he was saying, trap your smoking as he snuffed. It kind of works perfectly. Perfectly. So every time we look at each other and we go, savannah, trap yourself. Because it makes literal sense. Right? We're gonna trap your smoking.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly. I thought they take their bowl and they go, you're not token.

[Rider Strong]

So if we. If we ever create twirled merch, I think our first thing should be a shirt that just says trap your smoking.

[Will Friedle]

Trap. You're smoking. I like it. I think you should trap yourself.

[Rider Strong]

I think you should. We gotta get Dancing with the Stars in there somehow. If you get one more one Dancing the stars, we have a perfect shirt. Yes.

[Will Friedle]

We'll figure it out. It's awesome. All right.

[Rider Strong]

Do you have a survivor?

[Will Friedle]

Well, wait, well, before that. Don't forget, they then do the gray. Great misdirect where he. Where poopy Pants pretends to fall. I'm not going to call him that anymore.

[Rider Strong]

Where he.

[Will Friedle]

Potential Christian falls.

[Rider Strong]

Overacting Christian dude.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, but it works. It just makes you turn your head enough to where it's perfect.

[Rider Strong]

But I love the way siree's like, are you okay? Because he didn't know where to walk at the end too. It's over here. You got a little. So he might have. He might have hammed it up a little too much.

[Will Friedle]

It was.

[Rider Strong]

But yeah, I don't understand what the. Their strategy is. Like, I. They obviously edited out what, you know, what they built, what they made and how what their plan is.

[Will Friedle]

Like, yeah, it's.

[Rider Strong]

It's. It's bait for somebody. But I'm so curious what they wrote, if they wrote anything. Like.

[Will Friedle]

Well, that's my other. My other question. Do they have access to pen and paper? Can they write stuff?

[Rider Strong]

You know, that's a very good. I don't. I think you are allowed to bring like one personal item. And I'm pretty sure people do often bring a notebook to keep notes, to keep like, track of who's who. And like, so I think they. But I'm. I'm not 100 sure on that.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Rider Strong]

But I think they get to bring one personal item. You know, as long as it's not like a hacksaw.

[Will Friedle]

Right? Exactly. It's a big survival kit.

[Rider Strong]

Exactly. Just a whole bunch of food. Like just a backpack full of rations.

[Will Friedle]

It's awesome. Oh, my God. I wonder how far away they are from doing doordash. Like, what if he just. My personal item's my phone and I'm on Starlink and I'm just gonna keep ordering food the entire time. Oh, God, that'd be funny.

[Rider Strong]

All right. You got a survivor from history.

[Will Friedle]

I do.

[Rider Strong]

But on the tip of your tongue. Just from the top of your head.

[Will Friedle]

From the top of my head. But of course. We're calling this famous survivors from. Ho ho. Ha. Thank you. We've got a really cool one today. We've got Julianne Margr Margaret Beatty Kopecki.

[Rider Strong]

Oh, Another female survivor. Okay, listen to this.

[Will Friedle]

Kopecki is known for being the sole survivor of the 1971 LANSA Flight 508 crash.

[Rider Strong]

Oh, my God.

[Will Friedle]

When the plane was struck by lightning, she fell 10,000ft. No. While strapped to her seat and suffered numerous injuries including concussion, broken collarbone, and a torn knee ligament. She survived 11 days alone in the Peruvian Amazon rainforest until she located a lumberjack camp.

[Rider Strong]

Hold on. How do you survive a 10,000 foot fall?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it's a great question.

[Rider Strong]

She must have like hit jungle and like giant trees that broke her fall. Like, like full Avatar style. You know where they like I imagine giant leaf to giant leaf and it just like cradles her down to the ground.

[Will Friedle]

How it was she found herself falling still strapped to her row of seats in the Amazon Ray forest. She ended up surviving the fall but had a whole bunch of injuries. Injuries. 11 days in the rainforest, she dealt with severe insect bites and an infestation of bot fly larvae into her injured arm. After nine days, she was able to.

[Rider Strong]

Disgusting.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

That means that like they were planting eggs in her wound. Yep.

[Will Friedle]

So pretty awesome. Yeah. So that she literally. They. It was incredible.

[Rider Strong]

Did you ever watch that one survival show where it was. It was, it was. It was like alone before Alone where it's just the one guy. I'm blanking on his name.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, survivorman.

[Rider Strong]

Survivor man.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Rider Strong]

Yeah, dude, that was. That show was intense. And he did one, he did a couple in the rainforest.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Rider Strong]

And like rainforests are crazy.

[Will Friedle]

Oh yeah.

[Rider Strong]

Like there's just so many weird bugs and like plants that will kill you. Like, dude, I would way rather be lost like where they are in alone, which is like the Arctic, which sounds worse, but at least like you can lay on the ground. Like if I remember the survivor man, he couldn't lay on the ground because he was so worried about snakes and spiders.

[Will Friedle]

And not just that they have, they have certain places you go where they say, like if you're in the. If you find yourself in waist deep water, don't pee because if you open up your urethra, things crawl up inside of you and yikes.

[Rider Strong]

Dude, rainforest, like real jungle. Like Peruvian. No, no, no. I get the creepy crawl is just thinking about it. Like.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, wait now. So this is something you should understand too. Experts, experts have said that she survived the fall because she was harnessed into her seat, the window seat, which was attached to the two seats to her left as part of a row of three that thought to have functioned almost as a parachute or a helicopter, which slowed her fall. The impact may have also lessened by the updraft from a thunderstorm. She fell through and went through thick foliage at the landing site. So I mean just. And then. And the crazy thing was, as many as 14 other passengers were later discovered to have survived the initial crash trash but died waiting to be rescued.

[Rider Strong]

Oh yeah, yeah, that, that. I don't know. Like, if I fell 10,000ft, how do you have the, like, you don't faith in yourself to keep going, you don't. Or you just like, okay, like, I have to survive because my God, like, what are the chances?

[Will Friedle]

But so they think it helicoptered the. The seat helicopter down which slaughter. And then an uplift from. From the. The storm and then hitting the foliage. I mean, the. The confluence of events that needed to happen to keep this woman alive is mind boggling.

[Rider Strong]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

So there's your survivor from history. And then when she landed and the bot flies were in her and they're climbing out of her, she had to dive into a river and get a key and then open up. No, I'm kidding. That was it.

[Rider Strong]

And then build a puzzle that said Survivor season 50 for some reason. And that got her out of a sudden.

[Will Friedle]

Colby was there.

[Ryan Seacrest]

She.

[Will Friedle]

She found a Billy Eilish idol and she was okay. So there you go.

[Rider Strong]

You've been listening to Pod meets Twirl. The torches may be snuffed, but our questionable analysis burns on. We'll see you next time at tr.

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