TGI – Episode 604 “Friendly Persuasion”

Summary

Pod Meets World – Episode 604: “Friendly Persuasion”

Release Date: March 13, 2025

Overview

In Episode 604 of Pod Meets World, hosts Danielle Fishel, Will Friedle, and Ryder Strong delve into the Boy Meets World episode titled “Friendly Persuasion.” The trio revisits this iconic 1998 episode, offering insightful critiques, nostalgic reminiscences, and behind-the-scenes anecdotes. The discussion provides both fans and newcomers a comprehensive understanding of the episode’s themes, character dynamics, and narrative execution.

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Episode Synopsis

Danielle Fishel opens the discussion by summarizing the episode:

[07:43] Danielle Fishel: "Welcome to season six, episode four, 'Friendly Persuasion.' It originally aired on 10-16-1998. When Shawn and Angela break up, she hides her true feelings and shuns Corey’s offer of support, claiming they were never friends. Can our four John Adams grads stay pals in college? Or will a split break them up forever?"

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Hosts’ Initial Impressions

The hosts share their immediate reactions to the episode, highlighting both its strengths and shortcomings:

[08:21] Ryder Strong: "It's a weird episode. It wasn't really bad. It just also wasn't very funny."

[08:26] Danielle Fishel: "Yeah."

[08:27] Will Friedle: "And creepy intense. Corey's back in a really horrible way."

Ryder elaborates on Corey's characterization:

[08:30] Ryder Strong: "But I like that he kind of is made out to be selfish and creepy. You know, like it's part of the storyline. Self-involved. And that he's never given Angela any time, which I liked that."

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Character Dynamics and Plot Development

The hosts critically analyze the motivations and developments of key characters, focusing on the complexity and authenticity of their interactions.

Angela’s POV

Danielle praises Angela’s perspective, noting its depth and emotional resonance:

[09:26] Danielle Fishel: "I will say, whenever we talk about female POVs on the show, this was a great Angela POV. A real… you find out who she is and how she operates and how mature she is, and your heart breaks for her."

Critique of Shawn’s Character

Ryder and Will express dissatisfaction with Shawn’s portrayal, feeling it deviates from his usual likability:

[11:06] Will Friedle: "This is also a way worse episode if Trina isn't as good as she is."

[13:41] Ryder Strong: "It's like, I was waiting for there to be a turn in this episode where he's like, look, Corey, here's what I've been going through since we got to college. I miss my brother and my daddy, my mom, and I'm thinking about the. And nothing."

Themes of Friendship and Personal Growth

The discussion touches upon broader themes such as friendship, loyalty, and personal growth within the college setting.

[33:40] Ryder Strong: "You are supposed to be together, which I don't know, it's just interesting that it's in the mouth of Corey back then to say, like, the way the universe works."

[45:48] Ryder Strong: "This is peak Will. Take it in while you can. This is the Will that needed a spin-off, for sure."

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Guest Star Insights

The hosts introduce and discuss guest stars featured in the episode, providing background information and personal anecdotes.

Bonnie Bartlett as Dean Bolander

[12:56] Danielle Fishel: "Guest starring Bonnie Bartlett is back as Dean Bolander. To remind you, the award-winning actress has had a career that spanned almost seven decades."

Sarah Downing as Cameron

[14:33] Will Friedle: "I recognized her from somewhere when she walked in. She has a very unique look."

The hosts commend the performances and contributions of these actors, enhancing the episode’s narrative depth.

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Detailed Episode Recap and Analysis

The bulk of the podcast involves a scene-by-scene recap of “Friendly Persuasion,” interspersed with the hosts’ critiques and observations.

Key Scenes Discussed:

1. Student Union Make-Out Session

   • Danielle and Ryder critique the public display of affection and its realism in a college setting.

     [19:36] Ryder Strong: "Watching it, I was like, it's funny because in my mind you guys did this a lot."

2. Corey and Angela’s Breakup

   • The emotional complexity and lack of clear motivation in their breakup are examined.

     [33:23] Ryder Strong: "I wanted it to be like, what if Sean chose a specific class, leading to his breakup. But it's all abstract stuff."

3. Developmental Psychology Class with Mr. Feeny

   • The interaction between Eric, Jack, and Mr. Feeny is analyzed for its blend of humor and character development.

     [41:42] Will Friedle: "He's got a thing for the Ls."

4. Corey’s Attempts to Befriend Angela

   • The hosts discuss Corey’s pushy behavior and the awkwardness it brings to the storyline.

     [63:14] Ryder Strong: "It's all unmotivated. It's just characters feel, talking about their emotions. It's not real."

Hosts’ Critiques:

• Lack of Motivation and Realism

  [68:31] Danielle Fishel: "I feel like Corey is trying to be a savior, but it's too forced and lacks genuine motivation."

• Character Consistency

  [51:36] Will Friedle: "I think Barbie Feldman, the writer, was trying to introduce new dynamics, but it felt out of place."

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Conclusions and Final Thoughts

The hosts conclude with their overall impressions and takeaways from the episode, balancing their critiques with appreciation for certain elements.

[75:12] Will Friedle: "We love you all. Pod dismissed."

[76:19] Danielle Fishel: "With Metastatic Breast Cancer or MBC, which is breast cancer that is spread to other parts of the body, can feel scary. But you're not alone."

While their discussion reveals mixed feelings about the episode’s execution, the hosts acknowledge the effort to tackle more mature themes and character complexities within the Boy Meets World universe.

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Notable Quotes

• Danielle Fishel on Angela’s Maturity:

  [09:26] "I really loved the ending that they share where she just tells him something very vulnerable, and he gets it."

• Ryder Strong on Corey’s Overbearing Nature:

  [65:58] "I am never going to go away."

• Will Friedle on Mr. Feeny’s Return:

  [41:48] "It's me, you moron."

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Final Remarks

Pod Meets World Episode 604 offers a deep dive into the Boy Meets World episode “Friendly Persuasion,” blending nostalgic reflections with critical analysis. While the hosts highlight both the strengths and areas for improvement, their discussion enriches the listener’s understanding of the show’s enduring legacy and character evolution.

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Note: This summary intentionally excludes advertisements, promotional segments, and non-discussion content to focus solely on the substantive analysis and conversation among the hosts.

Transcript

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

Fishel, Ryder Strong and Will Friedle from Pod Meets World.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

You guys, we announced it this week and we're here to tell you it's true. We said we may never do it again, but yet here we are. We are going back on the road with POD meets world live. And tickets are now on sale.

[Will Friedle]

Wait a second. You guys are going back on a live tour? Why did I not hear about this?

[Danielle Fishel]

So two of the kids, some of.

[Ryder Strong]

The kids still want to jump. The important kids.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, God, the younger kids.

[Will Friedle]

The younger kids suck so much.

[Danielle Fishel]

The ones with good knees. No, Will, we're never going anywhere without you. Who would be funny? Who would be funny? It'd just be me and Ryder.

[Ryder Strong]

Me crying on stage and reading poetry and Danielle trying to host, being like, who wants to come up on stage? Anybody who can be funny? Who can lighten this up?

[Danielle Fishel]

We are going to be visiting some cities we missed the first time around. So do you want to hear the schedule?

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Fill that in with yes. June 4, we are going to be in Denver, Colorado at the Paramount Theater. June 5th, we will be in Phoenix, Arizona at the van Buren. And June 6, Austin, Texas, also at the Paramount Theater, Paramount Theaters. I feel like that might end up being a mistake, but we'll find out. And then on June 19, we are going to be in Columbus, Ohio at Joann Davison Theater. June 20th, Las Vegas, baby. Oh, God, I'm so excited. Oh, God. Guys, that show starts at 10.

[Will Friedle]

I, I, I, I thought that was a mistake. When they said it starts at 10pm.

[Danielle Fishel]

I was like, are you kidding me? At 10? How? I'm gonna have, I'm gonna have to.

[Will Friedle]

Sleep till 9:30 and then, and then get up and do the show and then go back to bed.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm gonna gamble.

[Will Friedle]

Get away. Danielle's going to be my insurer.

[Ryder Strong]

Pull her away from the blackjack table.

[Danielle Fishel]

Guys, I'm going to have a blackjack dealer on the stage with us so that I can keep playing while we do.

[Will Friedle]

Are we going to Vegas it up? Are we going to have like, like A Chorus Line and all that kind of like, can we do like the, the showgirls and all that cool kind of Vegasy stuff? Awesome.

[Danielle Fishel]

On July 11th, we're going to be in Portland, Oregon at Revolution Hall. July 13th, we'll be in Seattle at the Neptune Theater. July 25th, in San Francisco, the PA of Fine Art. And July 27th in Sacramento at the Crest Theater. And I just got word. It's not a mistake. June 4th and June 6th, both theaters are called the Paramount Theater in Denver and in Austin. So we're just. We like Paramounts.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. I also, I did some research to see how much I knew my country. Cause I was like, okay, this is easy. I've been to a bunch of these places. Maybe we can drive between like the first ones, which are Denver to whatever. The first. I was like, oh, it's like a 42 hour drive. Okay, so we're. We will. We will be flying.

[Danielle Fishel]

You could have texted Ryder this. He does this every summer 12 hour drive.

[Will Friedle]

For the first one I was like, okay, that's not. That's not gonna work.

[Ryder Strong]

We're doing the west, man. Nothing's close together. Everything is like a day drive apart.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, exactly. So we will be bringing behind the scenes stories, some new bits for our college years, a Q and A crowd participation and a costume contest for a real signed Boy Meets World script from the 90s that will still has because he's. They're gone.

[Will Friedle]

We gave them all away. We gave them all away in the first.

[Ryder Strong]

No, of course not.

[Danielle Fishel]

I've got like 300 left. So make sure you get dressed up either as something from the show or get very podcast obscure. We love to see that. And meet and greet tickets will be available again. We love to hang out, take pictures and spend a few minutes getting to know you. So as POD Meets World listeners, you get first dibs on tickets. The Presale opens Thursday, March 13 at 10am local time for your city. It's probably open right now. Go to podmeetsworldshow.com and just use the code romp R O M P to be a romp first. It's a romp people.

[Will Friedle]

Romp. I love that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Then tickets go on sale to the general public Friday, March 14th at 10am local time. And that's it. You can meet us in person. Tickets on [e-mail] for the kids. Still want a jump tour coming to all new cities.

[Will Friedle]

I can't wait to see the new poster. Just my name in big print right there. I'm really, really excited for it.

[Ryder Strong]

Is that what it says?

[Will Friedle]

Damn you people.

[Danielle Fishel]

Welcome to POD Meets World. I'm Danielle Fishel.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm Rider Strong.

[Will Friedle]

And I'm C4C, apparently still. I'm Will Friedle.

[Danielle Fishel]

Welcome to season six, episode four Friendly Persuasion. It originally aired 10-16-1998. The synopsis. When Shawn and Angela break up, she hides her true feel and shuns Corey's offer of support, claiming they were never friends. Can our four John Adams grads stay pals in college? Or will a split break them up forever? It was directed by Jeff McCracken. It was written by Barbie Feldman. And before we jump into our guest stars, do you guys have overall thoughts?

[Ryder Strong]

It's a weird episode. It wasn't really bad. It just also wasn't very funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And creepy intense. Corey's back in a really horrible way.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. But I like that he kind of is made out to be selfish and creepy. You know, like it's part of the storyline. Self involved. And that he's never given Angela any time, which I liked that.

[Will Friedle]

No, that I like.

[Ryder Strong]

True. Right? It's like.

[Will Friedle]

But the bathroom scene where he's like, I'm not going anywhere. It was like, oh, my God. Jesus.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. The whole bathroom thing is just like. Not that. I just don't get it. And I think, like, that's kind of the only comedy in the whole storyline. Like, there's no other comedy. Right. Except that Corey's nervous to go in the bathroom and lots of jokes about that. And it's like, okay, this is also.

[Will Friedle]

We're really starting to see, though, your storylines are gonna be more dramatic and then you're gonna cut to Eric and Jack for the. For the comedy. This is really where it's. It's really starting to take off that way, I think.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't know. What'd you guys think?

[Will Friedle]

I kind of felt the same way. Scale of 1 to 10, to me, this is like a 5. Like, it's kind of. It's just right in the middle of. Yeah. Real. Right, Right. Completely and totally forgettable episode. Didn't hate it. Didn't love it.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. I. I will say, whenever we talk about female POVs on the show, this was a great Angela POV. A real. You find out who. We all, as an audience, find out a little bit more about who she is and how she operates and how mature she is and your heart breaks for her. And I did, even though I was a little turned off by the Corey in being like, no, no, no, we are going to be friends. And being like, man, if she says she doesn't. If she. If she says she doesn't want to be your friend, back off. But I. But really, she never did say that. She really did just keep saying, you don't even know me. You don't Know me. You've never tried to get to know me. And he kept saying, well, then let me. Let me try. I would like to. And so even though that, like, there was something about it that rubbed me the wrong way, I really loved the ending that they share where she just tells him something very vulnerable, and he gets it. And he asks if he can tell Topanga. And she says, well, Topanga doesn't even know. And he really. That feels. He now feels special. I loved that, and it made me kind of happy that this was the first moment where we did see that happen between Corey and Angela, like, as opposed to them having more of a friendship developed. And then we lost the opportunity for this. It really was kind of a nice. It was a nice journey.

[Will Friedle]

This is also a way worse episode if Trina isn't as good as she is.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. She's so.

[Will Friedle]

Because she met the kind of intensity that Ben was playing everything with, with almost like a subtlety. Yeah, that was. She was underplaying some of the beats. That just really worked well.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

With the intensity of, you have to be together forever, and I'm going to be in your life forever. If she had met that intensity with the same intensity, it would have gone way soap opera way, way fast. And she didn't. She played everything under, and it saved it for me, frankly.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Because also, had she reacted to it as if he was creeping her out, it would have felt different. Instead, she was like, I unders I who you are. You may not know me, but I know. I know I know you. This is what you do. And it's not. It's not. It's not. It's not offensive. It's also not scary. It's just you doing you. So you.

[Ryder Strong]

She is just wrapped in a towel for that. Which is like a weird. Yeah, it's just like. It was kind of like, okay, yeah. I mean, it's.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. Well, it's certainly to the vulnerability.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, but you couldn't have played.

[Will Friedle]

The exact same scene before she had gotten in the shower. Like, she was just turning it on and.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, sure, but the other thing. I'll say, even though all the jokes about the bathroom room are like, womp, womp, the idea that he kind of proves to her. She goes, look, I know how I can get away from you. You want to be my friend, but not bad enough to overcome this whole thing. And then he actually does go in, and she's like. That's what makes her realize he's. He really means what he says because he's willing to like that'd be like if I, you know, you guys were like, I'm just gonna go stand behind this wall of tarantulas. And, and, and if Danielle really wants to be my friend, she'll come over there. And if I like came through the wall of tarantulas, you' we would never see you again. No, absolutely not.

[Will Friedle]

I feel like, I guess we're not friends because we.

[Ryder Strong]

That's the end of the podcast.

[Danielle Fishel]

We had a great 32 years, so. Guest starring Bonnie Bartlett is back. Dean. Lila Bolander returns to Boy Meets World. To remind you the award winning actress has had a career that spanned almost seven decades. Known for her roles on Little House on the Prairie, Gunsmoke, Golden Girls and Saint Elsewhere, the show where she won the award on the same night as her husband on the same show. And her real life husband is William Daniels, aka Mr. Feeney.

[Will Friedle]

And I'm not sure I ever knew her name was. It was Lila.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, she know Lila Bolander.

[Will Friedle]

Did we know that before this episode.

[Ryder Strong]

That it was Lila Justine Bolander?

[Danielle Fishel]

When you said it, I remembered it. When she said it, I remembered it. But I wouldn't like that would have been a trivia question somebody had asked and I don't think I would have come up with Lila.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, Lila. Interesting.

[Ryder Strong]

But then what was Feeney's ex's name? Wasn't it like Lillian?

[Will Friedle]

Lillian.

[Danielle Fishel]

He's got a thing for the Ls.

[Ryder Strong]

Lily and Lila confusing for him down the line?

[Will Friedle]

No, just so he doesn't have to change any of the. The monogram stuff.

[Ryder Strong]

He has in the house still work.

[Danielle Fishel]

And then we have Sarah Downing as Cameron. It appears this was her first job ever. She would go on to appear on shows like Smallville, Roswell and Charmed and movies like Never Been Kissed.

[Will Friedle]

I recognized her from somewhere when she walked in. She has a very. She was on Boy Me too unique look. Is that where I know her from? Maybe that's where I know her from. Yeah, it's like I recognize her from.

[Ryder Strong]

This scene from working with her.

[Danielle Fishel]

And then we have Chris Marley as Guy. He was seen in movies like Dr. Dolittle 2 and Simone and the TV show Jag. But it appears he is no longer in the business. Anyone who knows me knows I am a Samsung phone. Girly, tried and true over 10 plus years and you could never convince me to leave. And now I'm excited to tell you about my newest phone, the Galaxy S25 Ultra from Samsung. Just when I thought they couldn't improve perfection. Along came this game changer. It's a true AI companion that can evolve with you shaping to your everyday, making life easier and more efficient. And let's talk pictures. Samsung has always been a step above its competitors and now with the new 50 megapixel ultra wide lens, they've taken it a step further. Perfect for when you need that extra scenic touch or a little more room to get your whole family in the shot. And Audio Eraser with Galaxy AI with its help you can isolate and reduce unwanted sounds including wind, crowd noise or voices and videos. So if I'm filming my kid at the park and there's a dog barking nearby ruining the shot, I can easily remove it. So instead you'll just hear my child repeatedly asking me for a new toy. You can decide what's better. Are you ready to let this mind blowing new phone do more for you? So you can do you? Then trust me and get your Galaxy S25 Ultra now at samsung.com Audio Eraser is compatible with common video formats. Accessible in gallery helps minimize six select sounds. Results vary. Galaxy AI features by Samsung free through 2025 and require Samsung account Login the New Year's here. It's the perfect time to refresh those household essentials and score some cash back rewards with Colgate Palmolive.

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[Will Friedle]

And Will Friedle from Pod Meets World.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Jumping into our recap, we start in the student union. Cory and Topanga are straight up loading on the pda. I mean, we have never, I don't.

[Ryder Strong]

Think you guys have ever made out this intensely.

[Danielle Fishel]

Never have made out this intensely.

[Ryder Strong]

Watching it, I was like, it's funny because in my mind you guys did this a lot.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know it wasn't until the first time. Correct.

[Ryder Strong]

You guys have only pretty much like nice chaste kissing. Yeah. This is like full on macking.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

And I realized we, we do this a lot.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. I was like, oh, this is when that starts. Yeah. It's, it's kind of gross. It's kind of gross.

[Will Friedle]

It's just out of place. It's so passionate in the middle of the student union where it's like, had they saved this kind of passion for when you guys were alone in the dorm. That's one thing. But this was like, oh, okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. I. Yeah. Not. I don't dig it a lot. Again, there are just a lot of background actors.

[Will Friedle]

I'm sorry. It is loaded on the pda. How you say it? What you just said.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, that is what I said. Loading on the pda.

[Will Friedle]

Loading on the pda. Oh, they're loading on the pda. I didn't know if that was, like, a cool, hip thing that I didn't know.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, no, there's no. It actually really sounds like an old person way of saying gotcha. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't cool.

[Will Friedle]

Copy that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Sean tries to get them to stop, but they are too focused on the spit swapping. Angela breaks it to him. He can't talk.

[Ryder Strong]

She's got his pod. Swapping discomfort. You see things like spit swapping. It's just. It's all right. Come on.

[Danielle Fishel]

Come on. Shawn reminds them, it's college. They're supposed to be meeting new people. Then out of nowhere, Angela taps him on the shoulder. I want to make out. Shawn is flustered. Come on. This is our freshman orientation. This is a new place. We're supposed to be meeting new people. Angela's offended. You don't want to make out with me? Shawn assures her he definitely does. They walk away from Cory and Topanga, who are still making out. And he repeats, he just wants to meet new people. He has said this now three times.

[Will Friedle]

A little bit of a red flag at this point.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, it's true.

[Will Friedle]

Even I was like, oh, man.

[Ryder Strong]

He.

[Will Friedle]

He's spelling this out.

[Ryder Strong]

Sean's motivation. What is up with Sean?

[Danielle Fishel]

Why is he doing this? What's he doing?

[Ryder Strong]

But also, he's trying to stop his friends from making out so they can.

[Danielle Fishel]

Also meet new people.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, just go meet new people. Sean, shut up.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't understand what's up with my character this entire season.

[Will Friedle]

I agree with you 100%. It was the second episode in a row where I was like, who is Sean?

[Ryder Strong]

It's, like, such a weird vibe. I don't know what. Like, what you're. Angela is right there, and I'm, like, totally acting like an ass. And, like.

[Danielle Fishel]

And then you call her your friend.

[Ryder Strong]

But I also just don't know. What is Sean like? 1. Like, what is he expecting from college? Is this going to pay off in some way? Like, I was wait, you know, like, I was waiting for there to be a turn in this episode where he's like, look, Corey, here's what I've been going through since we got to college. I miss my brother and my daddy, my mom, and I'm thinking about the. And nothing. Like, it's literally this unmotivated.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, what we're forgetting, guys, is that the idea of college for men apparently is.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Strange. Strange. Just getting all the strange because it was pointed out in the conversation with Cory and Topanga. Oh, are you gonna get to college and then wish you were single and could meet all the. And you were. Come on, you were married. So the two. It's been set up, set up, set up, set up. It's been set up that the two options are long term, committed, relationship, or do you keep your options open?

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

When you're in college. And.

[Will Friedle]

But for the guy, you're right, because both. Both our women want to stay very, very.

[Danielle Fishel]

The women are loyal to the relationships they are in. And one of the couples is the man. The man has said, you know what? I've always been committed to you anyway, so I might as well stay committed to you. And in this situation, it's a guy going, you know, maybe I do want to keep my options open, which is just.

[Will Friedle]

And then the woman is going to go out of her way to hide her discomfort so she doesn't make the man uncomfortable about wanting to go and sleep with a whole bunch of different women.

[Danielle Fishel]

Correct. She just doesn't want him to feel bad about that.

[Ryder Strong]

Right?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

Don't. Don't let Sean feel bad.

[Danielle Fishel]

We don't want men to feel bad.

[Will Friedle]

Or whoever this person is who's taken over Shawn's body. Because it really is a totally different character.

[Ryder Strong]

It really is.

[Will Friedle]

And I can't tell. I think it's a combination of the writing, and you're playing it differently. Like, you're playing it more subtly. And it's just. It is a different guy.

[Ryder Strong]

It's basically because, like, you know, I've talked about how, like, in some ways it seems I can tell when I've checked out as an actor. It seemed like Sean's checked out.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It's like Sean is checked out of Boy Meets World, and he's still here, but he's like. Like the way I talk to Corey in the next scene, I'm like, whatever, dude, just get out of my face. Like, just leave me alone.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, dude, just don't eat the pudding. I don't want to be a pudding boy's best friend. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm like, just dismissive. And it's like this sort of like, Confidence, but it's, like, just misplaced.

[Danielle Fishel]

Sean feels like he's decided he's too cool for this show.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, right. Which writer? I decided years ago, but correct Sean. Yes.

[Will Friedle]

You could at least act like you wanted to be there. But not anymore. Yeah. No, it was very. Yeah, it's different.

[Danielle Fishel]

So Sean explains he's never met someone while he's making out. And then he remembers. Well, except one night, but that was a fluke. Angela laughs and then goes to get some refills of what appears to be red drink. It looks we like we brought the red drink from the cafeteria.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly.

[Danielle Fishel]

As soon as Angela's gone, a pretty girl walks up to Sean and introduces herself as Cameron. Shawn shakes her hand and introduces her to his friend Angela.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, that's where I recognize her from. Is this scene right?

[Ryder Strong]

Sarah Downing.

[Will Friedle]

This is. That's where I recognize her from. Sure.

[Danielle Fishel]

Angela is confused behind her fake smile. What? She points out that he just said friend. And Sean can't believe he did that. And giggles. I meant this is my friend. Girlfriend. Angela. My girlfriend Cameron is interested. Oh, you two are together. Shawn doesn't respond right away, so Angela pokes him on the head. He points to himself and Angela. Yep. Girlfriend and boyfriend. Cameron leaves. She hopes to see him around campus. Angela gives him a death stare to a smiling Sean. Meanwhile, Cory and Topanga literally are now on top of each other on the couch, still making out. Shawn turns to Angela and awkwardly breaks the silence. How you doing? A tense Angela response. I'm good friend. How you doing? Sean sighs. Oh, come on, Angela. I'm sorry. I made a mistake. All right, let's make out. But Angela has reservations. It's okay. We don't have to. We can meet new people. I just didn't know it was that important to you. I don't want you to miss out on anything Sean doesn't understand. So Angela puts it simply, you want to meet.

[Ryder Strong]

So much better. If it was just she, was she. I'm taking a class in name a subject. Like, Sean takes a history class.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And this girl comes up and is like, hey, Sean. And we have a shared interest. Like, suddenly something new.

[Danielle Fishel]

Correct.

[Ryder Strong]

That Sean is suddenly, like, exploring is like, this is a new part of me that, like, college is offering. Right?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

It's not just, hi, good to meet you because you're a hot woman, and then later I'm gonna make out or try and make out with you. It would have been so much more motivated if it was like, hey, this is what happens. Because you do. You go to college. You take classes, you meet new people. And if I was like, oh, yeah, have you met Angela? Angela's my friend from high school. And then I just kept going. And then it'd be like, well, that's your girlfriend. Oh, right. And, you know, but at least it would be motivated by.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right, because at least Cory in the ski lodge, they talked all night. He got to know her. But it's exactly the same thing here. And we said the same thing with Topanga and Ricky. Lips Waterman, or not Ricky, but Lips Waterman, Andrew Keegan in the Disneyland episode. It was like Corey was all upset about him going, and yet we know nothing about him. Have no reason to think Topanga is interested in him. But. But like, just complet. Just because apparently good looking people, you can't help yourself. Every time there's a good looking person in front of your face, you must break up with people to make out with.

[Ryder Strong]

It is. It just feels like conflict inserted for conflict sake. And it feels like Shawn is doing it for no reason. Whereas, like, it could have very easily been motivated. And then Sean's a fully fledged character. And the conflict with Angela feels more earned by both parties. And you're like, right. Why would she want to hold him back from talking to a girl about the history thing that he's really into right now?

[Danielle Fishel]

Or why that would make sense, him having a friendship with this girl and they do have shared interests. And she gets a little jealous and he's like, why are you jealous? It's just a person I'm in a project with. And then she could be like, you know what? You're right. This isn't making me feel good. I shouldn't be jealous. I don't want to hold you back from who you are. But the truth is, instead, this episode makes me not like Shawn. That's the thing.

[Ryder Strong]

That's what I mean. Shawn's just a scumbag.

[Danielle Fishel]

He's just like.

[Ryder Strong]

And he's not a good friend of Shawn. He's not a good friend of Cory. He hasn't been the last two episodes.

[Danielle Fishel]

He's a bad boyfriend. Angela.

[Ryder Strong]

Boyfriend. It's like, dude, you just get to like, treat people.

[Will Friedle]

They set it up before. Why they didn't keep Sean because. Exactly what you're saying. But why they didn't keep him into photography. And then all of a sudden he's got that focus and that there's something where he meets somebody there and there's still models.

[Danielle Fishel]

Then he would have to photograph that lady naked.

[Will Friedle]

Naked. Because they broke up. And he just wants to kiss other people.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, you want to meet new people, and I'm not new people. So what do you want it to mean? Sean thinks about his answer and is interrupted by an out of breath Cory and Topanga. Corey is spent. Whew. You know, whoever thought of these orientations is a genius. Angela and Sean are unmoved now, intensely staring at each other. What is to come? Okay, then. We're in the dorm hallway. Corey is back at the co ed bathroom, confused, staring at the sign with a towel wrapped around his neck. Back. Topanga approaches from behind, sporting a robe. You're gonna have to go in there sometime. As a girl exits, Corey is still dumbfounded. Men and women going to the same bathroom. It's freaky. Topanga grabs his hand and urges him to come in with her. Cory shouts, no, you're gonna look at me. Topanga promises she won't look, and Corey is offended. You don't want to look at me. Topanga sighs. Fine, I'll look at you. And Corey confidently shouts, I knew it. Topanga shakes her head. You have issues. She enters the bathroom, leaving Corey in the hall. Then a muscular guy and only a towel around his waist tries to enter, but Corey blocks him. Where are you going, sunshine? The stud looks Cory up and down. I'm gonna shower and meet chicks. Corey briefly pushes his bare chest, but then quickly recoils. Hey, my girlfriend's in there. The dude loves that, all right. As he lets himself inside, Corey tries to stop him by yanking at his towel, pulling the whole thing off just as the bro enters. Corey is panicked. Then we hear Topanga say, wow. Just before the door opens. She exits with her, her jaw dropped, and walks right past Corey in a zombie like daze. And Sean walks out of the bathroom.

[Ryder Strong]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

Great moment. Great.

[Ryder Strong]

Pure sick comment is kind of the obvious. Have Sean be a super impressed. Maybe a little disturbed, like.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, you know, that could happen. Wow.

[Ryder Strong]

Wow. I gotta think about that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it worked on a lot of levels. That was a good joke.

[Danielle Fishel]

Sean sees Corey and just grins. Still can't go in there, huh? I'm telling you, you might like it. I for one, can't get enough of it. Girls shower in there naked.

[Will Friedle]

Again with the being naked under their clothes jokes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Corey argues. What do you care about naked girls? You have your own naked girl. I mean, she has the potential to be naked at some point in her career.

[Ryder Strong]

Her career as a girl?

[Danielle Fishel]

Worse is her career as a girlfriend.

[Ryder Strong]

As a girlfriend, yeah. But it totally reveals the way.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know everyone thinks about I mean, it's like.

[Ryder Strong]

It's a joke, but it is also the way our writers thought about these characters.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

They've also kind of told us now that Sean and Angela are also not sleeping together.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Like, you figured by this point, they set it up enough to where there's a chance Shawn and Angela were actually having sex, but now they kind of set it up that, no, they're not.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, but it's also just this weird. Like, I was thinking about that with the Cory Topanga making out. It's like, it's. It's not something that I feel happens in college. Like, what happens in college is you make out of parties.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, but the idea that, like, you would be making out in the student union when you have dorm rooms, you're over 18. You can. You can go do it. What are you doing right now? Like, just making out? Like, getting. Like. It's so weird. In high school, you have nowhere to go, Right? You're stuck at school. It's like, legally, you cannot leave, so you have to make out in the. Whatever, public area. But in that this case.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know you guys are just being gross. Exactly. We're just being rude.

[Will Friedle]

Were you making out in high school a lot?

[Danielle Fishel]

Me?

[Will Friedle]

You make out? Yes, to both. Were you guys making out in the hallways of high school?

[Danielle Fishel]

Never.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

At school.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, well, that's what you just said. You're like. You're stuck there, so you got to make out there. I'm just wondering if you're just macking on people in high school.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, but it makes sense, right? Like, it does make sense that you are children who don't have power. Like, you don't have agency, so you have to make out somewhere public because you have nowhere else to go. Like, that definitely used to happen to me when I was a teenager, but the second I got to college, you can just go to your dorm room. I don't know. It's weird.

[Danielle Fishel]

So. Sean sighs. Actually, not anymore. Angela and I decided to take a break. Corey is shocked. You broke up? Up. He nods. Yeah, I guess that's what we did. And they both walk into their dorm room. Corey wants to know why. Shawn reveals it wasn't just his idea. It was Angela's, too. Corey asks again why Shawn tells him about the orientation party and how neither of them want to miss out on new opportunities at college. Corey thinks he's making a terrible mistake. Shawn explains, we just want to see what else is out there. And Corey calls him on his crap. You know, there's nothing Better than you and her. Shawn shrugs.

[Will Friedle]

Ever in your life, because you've been dating since high school. You know that this, you've met your person forever. You'll never find someone better for you.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, God.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I didn't remember that Corey espoused this view. It's really, it's because it's sort of the, it's the big question of boy meets world.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

And I feel like girl meets world, like, you know, are Sean and Angela endgame.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Should they have been? You know, I mean, we still get this question that's so interesting that it's in the mouth of Corey back then to say, like, the way the universe works.

[Danielle Fishel]

Is that right?

[Ryder Strong]

You are supposed to be together, which I don't know, it's just interesting. I, I, I didn't realize that. I didn't remember that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And I like the fact that, you know. And it doesn't really come back to reflect on what he's saying now. But he doesn't know Angela at all.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Ryder Strong]

So his argument that like you're supposed is from this complete naivete, like it doesn't come from an informed position of like, she's an awesome person and you're an awesome person and you guys make sense together. It comes from a place of. That's just the way the world works. You date somebody because is they're perfect and you're going to be with them forever.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, but I think it is, I think it is coming from his idea that you think you have all this time thought Angela was so perfect that probably in your private conversations, Sean and Corey. Sean talks about how amazing Angela is. And so without Corey knowing her at all himself, he is saying no. The whole point is, the whole point of life is you go out, you find an amazing person, you partner up with them and then you, you stick with them forever. And you have already discussed, you already know that there's no one better than Angela, particularly if they make you miserable.

[Ryder Strong]

And correct sex that shows real love, then.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

That is the sign of gotta suffer.

[Will Friedle]

You gotta suffer.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, exactly. So that's where I think he's coming from with that. Sean shrugs. Not everybody's like you. Not everybody spends the rest of their life with one girlfriend. And that's when Topanga walks in. Corey asks her, did you know that? And she completes his sentence. Shawn and Angela broke up. Yeah, she told me. I think you're both handling it with incredible maturity. Corey gets heated and asks Topanga, how is breaking up? Mature. Working it out is mature. Sticking together is mature. Topanga reminds him not every single couple is like them. But Corey insists, but I want them to be like us. This gets a laugh, and I'm not really sure. Yeah, it was supposed to be a joke.

[Will Friedle]

I don't think so either.

[Danielle Fishel]

But everybody laughs. I want them to be happy. Shawn assures Corey that he and Angela aren't going to let this affect their friendship, and neither should he. Topanga nods. You're both my friends no matter what happens. Shawn looks to Corey for the same response and Corey not so convincingly replies, yeah, you guys are both my friends. Shawn wonders no matter what happens. Instead, Corey adds, and I know you'll be together in the end. And he walks out of the room. Sean shakes his head.

[Ryder Strong]

In this television show.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Ryder Strong]

In the end of our sequel television show, right?

[Danielle Fishel]

In the end of life. The end of life in a grave. Together.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

For many, the American dream means starting your own business and working for yourself.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

In every episode, hosts Austin Henkwitz and Janice Torres talk to small business owners about how they've grown and maintained their business and tackled the hurdles and challenges that come with being your own boss.

[Will Friedle]

From tracking money in and out to.

[Danielle Fishel]

Cutting through the complexity with an all encompassing platform like QuickBooks, you don't want to miss these inspiring stories of small business journeys.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

So bring your high standards and never limit what you can find.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

And then we're in our first college class. Developmental psychology. Jack, Eric and Rachel are sitting together waiting for class to start. Jack turns to get a glimpse of his classmates again. Tall, background actors.

[Will Friedle]

Yes, I think because of Maitland.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, they needed to balance out some of that height. And then Jack nudges Eric. Hey, doesn't that guy behind me look like Mr. Feeny? Eric warns him. Oh, don't even. Feeny moved. He's closed that chapter in his life and he opened a new one. And he calls that new chapter Chapter five. Rachel admits, I think he's right. That guy does look like the guy in the poster by your bed. Eric finally turns to look and guess who's sitting behind them? It's Mr. Feeny. He greets his old pal with a casual. How you doing?

[Ryder Strong]

How you doing? How you doing with Trina earlier?

[Will Friedle]

That's right.

[Danielle Fishel]

How you doing?

[Will Friedle]

How you doing? How you doing?

[Danielle Fishel]

Eric scoffs. You think that kid's Feeny? Jack sarcastically says he's pretty sure. So Eric is going to ask a question that only Mr. Feeny would know the answer to. He turns around and gets very serious. Are you George Feeny? Feeny responds with a straight face. It's me, you moron.

[Will Friedle]

You moron.

[Danielle Fishel]

Eric is ecstatic. Correct. Hey, Mr. Feeny. You couldn't stay away from me. Eric embraces his neighbor. And then Feeny shakes Jack's hand. He introduces himself to Rachel, who says Eric talks about him all the time. It's so nice to finally meet Eric's grandpa.

[Ryder Strong]

This is just another example of amazing acting by Bill. His ability to come down the stairs, introduce himself to Rachel, and then still block himself upstage so that the camera.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's effortless. I saw it.

[Ryder Strong]

I know, but it's like it's an actor who's done stage his entire life. It doesn't bump anybody, but if you watch it, it makes no logical sense. Human beings don't do this. And yet Bill Daniels. Boom. And you're like, you believe it. You believe it and it works. He's such a bro.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

So well, it's so funny you noticed that moment because I also noticed that moment was like beautiful blocking, beautiful shot work. And I wondered, was that on a pen? Did we just raise up high?

[Ryder Strong]

You're sitting there going like, this is one of those moments that most of the time as a director, you're like, just try it. Could you just. I know it feels awkward.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm put a mark down for you.

[Ryder Strong]

Quick enough, we won't think about it. And you have to like, argue into this because it's really doesn't make any sense. Bill just freaking does. And you know, McCracken didn't have to say a word. Bill was just like, all right, I'll come down here and just fall into place.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, so great. Feeny is beside himself. You're what? Eric says, maybe someday, which is cute.

[Will Friedle]

It's such a hope for him.

[Ryder Strong]

It's such a hope for him.

[Will Friedle]

Know what it means?

[Ryder Strong]

So funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, you'd have to marry his granddaughter. And then you could, you could just call him a grandfather, you know?

[Ryder Strong]

Jack asked, Feeny's niece was your first kiss, right?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

So is that Myron's.

[Will Friedle]

Mildred's kid?

[Ryder Strong]

Myon, we gotta write a family tree.

[Will Friedle]

We gotta figure out the Feeny family tree. Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

Jack asks Feeny why he's there and Eric answers for him. He couldn't stay away from me. He's conveniently come back to teach this class. Feeny clarifies, I actually came back to be a student. Retired. Life didn't turn out to be what I was looking for. Just then, the professor, a familiar looking Dean Bolender, walks in and welcomes everyone to Developmental Psychology.

[Will Friedle]

She's awesome. She's another one who just commands the space. Yep.

[Ryder Strong]

So she teaches.

[Danielle Fishel]

She explains it later.

[Will Friedle]

She does. She talks about it later. She talks about it later.

[Danielle Fishel]

She fully mentions it. She's a teaching dean.

[Will Friedle]

She's a teaching dean. Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

She's in a rotten mood. And she doesn't check her mood at the door. Feeny seems slightly horned up by this teacher and blurts out, oh, my, oh, my. Forcing Eric to command, down, boy. Dean Bolender announces their first group project will be an exploration of human nature. Is a person able to alter the trait ingrained in his behavioral makeup since childhood? She says students will need to pick a partner. And Eric yells, I call Jack. Jack is embarrassed. What are you doing? Eric smirks. I knew you'd ask Rachel to be your partner, so I got you before you could get to her behind them. Rachel asks Feeny to be her partner. And he happily agrees. Jack wonders, why didn't you ask Rachel to be your partner before I got the chance? Eric ponders the question. It's hard to say. He taps himself on his head. I don't have a lot of control on what goes on up here. Yeah, this. This part of you being dumb, for lack of a better word, is so endearing to me. The part where you go valid.

[Will Friedle]

It's like self.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Self reflection. Yes. The self reflecting. Like. Like. You're right, that was dumb. I don't have that much control. I just.

[Will Friedle]

But look at my hair.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know. Look how gorgeous I am.

[Will Friedle]

How gorgeous my hair looks.

[Ryder Strong]

This is peak will.

[Will Friedle]

This is peak will.

[Ryder Strong]

Take it in while you can.

[Danielle Fishel]

This is the will that needed a spin off, for sure. This is it.

[Will Friedle]

This is Pequil.

[Danielle Fishel]

And then we're in Corey and Sean's dorm. Corey joyfully walks down the hall to find a rubber band on his doorknob. Completely oblivious, he admires the find. Neato. And blindly opens the door, only to be surprised to see Shawn sitting on his bed with a girl. Corey, slightly disgusted, asks, who are you? Sean introduces Cameron to Corey and his roommate, the rubber band man. He adds, that rubber band was on the door for a reason. Corey giggles, and then, in a little bit of a French accent, a little present for me. Shawn asks Cameron to excuse them for a moment and pulls Corey out into the hallway with the door shut. Sean explains, if there's a rubber band on the door, it means the room is occupado. Get it? Corey judgingly asks how he can be with another girl so soon. Shouldn't there be a mourning period? Sean can't hide his laughter. No one died. Angela and I broke up. She's fine with it and I'm fine with it. So why don't you put that back on the door and get. Shawn reenters the room and Corey begrudgingly places the rubber band back on the doorknob. Just as Angela walks out of her dorm, she creeps up on Corey and asks what he's doing. Going. Corey freezes up. She asks about the stretched rubber band on the door and Corey nervously blurts out, it's mine, and it has nothing to do with what's behind the door. Angela playfully inquires, sean got a girl in there. Corey laughs, Ha. Don't be silly, Angela. I was just exercising. And this whole little beat of him exercising and all of this is so funny and he's having so much fun and it's so nice to see him like this. He continuously pulls the rubber band from the door and huffs. Feel the burn. Angela assures him he doesn't need to do that. Corey's flattered. Thanks, but I wasn't just born with this body. But Angela insists she's okay with Sean having a girl in there. Corey sighs. Yeah, he said you would be. Angela's surprised he did. She tries to laugh it off. It's none of my business anyways. Why should I care? Corey answers, because you should care. I don't understand how you can both be so calm about this. Angela cuts him off. Drop it, Corey. I'm fine. Corey pushes. If it's bothering you, you should really tell me. Angela scoffs. There's nothing to tell. It's not bothering me. So why should it bother you? Corey states, I'm just trying to be a friend. Angela appreciates it, but they were never really friends to begin with. She walks into the co ed bathroom and he's clearly heard about the situation and wonders aloud what and then we see Topanga and Angela's dorm. Topanga is doing homework on her bed.

[Ryder Strong]

While I don't remember this room. Do you?

[Danielle Fishel]

Not one iota. I don't think we ever see it again.

[Will Friedle]

No, I think we do. Because at some point and you're gonna be like, what? You and I end up in bed together? Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

What?

[Will Friedle]

Yep. You and I end up in bed together.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, don't you also. There's also when Fred came on as a teacher, wasn't it in your dorm room?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I think so.

[Ryder Strong]

I think it was in this room that he makes the move on.

[Will Friedle]

Which one's throwing you more? You don't. Do you not remember you and I being in bed together?

[Danielle Fishel]

Why? Are you and I in bed together? No, I don't.

[Will Friedle]

So Eric, if memory serves, Eric gets kicked out of the apartment and is looking for places to stay. And you get into bed one time and I'm already in bed and I'm like, hey, roomie. And we're like in bed together. And I think it was in your dorm room. Yeah. Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep.

[Ryder Strong]

I think we had these sets for a long time and I don't remember any of them. I don't like them. Is that hallway set?

[Danielle Fishel]

It's so gross. I don't like the dorms.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, the whole dorm situation is just not.

[Will Friedle]

Is that kind of how it's supposed to be with dorms, though? They're supposed to be kind of dingy and nasty and it's like your dorm. It's.

[Danielle Fishel]

Sure.

[Ryder Strong]

But that hallway is just Useless as a set. Like, it's. It's just the standing room. Like, there's just literally, like a hallway and then, like, this weird corner.

[Danielle Fishel]

Places for people to have conversations before they enter either the bathroom or their dorm room.

[Ryder Strong]

It doesn't. Yeah, I don't.

[Will Friedle]

I also. They never talk ever about why Eric gets an apartment when he goes to Pembroke but everybody else stays in the dorms.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

Like, Eric never stayed in the dorms, ever. Went right to moving in with Jack.

[Ryder Strong]

And Sean got kicked out of his apartment to move into a dorm for a reason.

[Danielle Fishel]

And also when Amy and Alan show up in the first episode here, he. They say he doesn't know we're here.

[Will Friedle]

We're here.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So.

[Danielle Fishel]

So I don't.

[Will Friedle]

I don't know.

[Danielle Fishel]

So Topanga's doing homework on her bed while Corey self destructs next to her. How could she not like me? How can she say I'm not her friend? I'm Corey? Topanga talks him off the ledge. You know, Angela likes you. She just doesn't really know you. Well, you have to admit, you never really took the time to get to know her. Cory's defensive. What are you talking about? She's been going out with my best friend for over a year. Topanga asks, when the four of us went out, how many times did you pull her aside and talk to her? He guesses, 800 times. Topanga corrects him, not once. Corey. Corey tries.

[Ryder Strong]

I just love this whole bit. It was really nice. It's like an awareness that our show. I don't know, it's just a cool bit. I just love whenever Cory is like, oh, the whole world does not revolve around you, dude. It's like, it's always nice when our show has that moment.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's also really nice to see a little bit of an insight into the Cory and Topanga relationship where, like, they're having a real conversation. They're having a real conversation about one of their friends where Corey is mouthing off about something and she's going, corey, none of that's true. Corey, your perception's just wrong, bud. Let me tell you. And. And he's going, wait, really? It's like, we never get to see them work out problems together ever.

[Will Friedle]

And I also think it's really nice because I think it's an insight into somebody like Barbie Feldman, who's writing the script, probably going, you do realize we've never had a scene where Corey even tries to get to know Angela.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And I think there's something to that, too, where a new writer is kind of. She's not a new writer, but a new voice in the room kind of coming in, going, like, you guys are missing nine different relationships here.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And it's like, here's one we should start to talk about. And so that's why when I saw her name, I was like, ah, that's. That makes sense.

[Danielle Fishel]

So Corey tries to push the blame onto Angela. She never took me aside either. Topanga tells him to let it go. McCoy laughs at the thought. When do I ever let anything go? Topanga dangles a rubber band in front of him. We have the room to ourselves. She holds on to the rubber band, which completely disregards the point of her offer. And they very awkwardly shuffle to the bed. They lay down and again have a makeout sesh, which you can do.

[Will Friedle]

What do you need a rubber band for? Because you do that in the student union, you're not going any farther. So, you know, who cares?

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, and that's my point, is that I'm like, I have the rubber band. And then we just ignore the rubber band and we walk.

[Will Friedle]

I think you should have just walked up with the rubber band, snapped him on the nipple to show that this is what he likes, and then gone from there. Like, you find out Corey's freaky. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

They start making out and then Corey pulls away, forcing Topanga to ask, what? Corey asks again, ruining the mood. How could she not like me? And then we're back in developmental psychology class as students file in before the class. Eric. Eric stands in front doing a series of Karate Kid moves.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Was this in the script or is this also in the script, just starting the scene like this?

[Will Friedle]

I absolutely have no idea. I don't know where that came from, why it was happening. Funny movements.

[Danielle Fishel]

When the dean enters, he quickly takes a seat as the other students continue to chat. The dean tries to get their attention, but no avail. Feeny shouts, everybody pipe down. And the class turns silent. Feeny grins at the professor. They're all yours. Dean Bolender questions. You've done this before, George? Feeny whispers to Rachel with glee. She knows my name. The professor asks if there are any brave volunteers to start them off. And Feeny immediately raises his hand with enthusiasm. Rachel asks what he's doing. Feeny tells her to trust him. Teachers love firsters, and they will set an impossible standard for the rest of the class. He raises his hand again. So Dean Bolender picks them to start things off. Rachel begs Feeny not to go first. She Can't. Feeny assures her they have a great presentation and ushers her up to the front. Eric jumps up. If they aren't ready, Jack and I are ready to prove. He stops mid sentence and asks Jax, what was our thing?

[Will Friedle]

What was our thing?

[Danielle Fishel]

Regardless, Feeny and Rachel have taken the podium to begin. Feeny tells her to go ahead with the presentation, but Rachel stares wide eyed into the class and begs him to do it. You do it. You. You. Feeny obliges. It is our postulation that free will determines behavior and not one's environment. He throws it over to Rachel, but she is still a panicked wreck. She tries to tell the class what they're going to prove but can't quite get the words out. I am so nervous. Feeny tries to alleviate the pressure by taking over the entire presentation, posing a question to the class that Jack raises his hand to answer. Jack's response supports the presentation's claims and Feeny nods. Very good, Mr. Hunter. Eric sneers at him. Very good, Mr. Suck up to the teacher. Jack reminds him he's not the teacher. So Eric asks, why'd you answer him? Jack admits his will is too strong. Dean Bolender digs deeper. You're suggesting that environment has no effect on behavior. Feeny holds up his hand to silence her. There will be ample time for questions after my presentation. The inmates in the audience let out an oh. And Feeny adds, and a hand raise wouldn't kill you.

[Will Friedle]

Oh.

[Danielle Fishel]

The dean storms up to him in response to the disrespect, Excuse me. And Feeny is very embarrassed. He apologizes and admits he has no idea what got in. What got into him. He asks Rachel to continue with their thesis and she shrugs. I can't. He encourages her. You're an excellent student and very well prepared. Rachel clarifies. No, I mean I can't continue with our theory, but I think I can do the presentation now. Now. Rachel continues. As my partner just demonstrated, our theory was all wrong. Feeny's confused, so Rachel explains. Environment obviously has a stronger effect on behavior than we realized. Feeny argues, but you're not nervous now. You have overcome your environment. Rachel nods. Yeah, but you haven't. This hits Feenie like a ton of bricks and we get a long pause to let it all sinks in in sink in.

[Will Friedle]

Nice little scene.

[Danielle Fishel]

This was a great little scene. I, I, I thought Maitland was wonderful.

[Ryder Strong]

Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought. I love that they tied in this little theory.

[Ryder Strong]

Really? I thought it was so.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh really? Oh, you thought it was laid on too thick.

[Ryder Strong]

Laid on too thick and also just, I don't know, I mean it just maybe just a rewrite. Something's off for me. It wasn't like I was like, oh we're going to do the environment there, her turn at the end. I was like wait, now she's comfortable. And that was the only part I.

[Will Friedle]

Didn'T like was that she was instantly comfortable.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't know. It was also undercut by the opening of the scene. Like the opening of the scene is Feeny taking control of the room for Bolender. Like he literally does the thing that he then does already. So it's like, well, it's already happened. Like we already know that he's the teacher and he's taking control for you. So why? I don't know. It just felt, yeah, felt obvious and predictable and just kind of.

[Danielle Fishel]

I liked. Definitely was obvious and we definitely saw little moments in it. It felt very sitcom y also it felt, it was kind of of comforting. It was kind of nice and like, you know, one of those, one of those old boy meets world things where this, where the book ties into what's going on in the real life situation.

[Will Friedle]

And it's also Feeny at the front of a classroom. You can't, you can never go wrong with Feeny at the front of a classroom.

[Danielle Fishel]

Also Feeny being rude and, and put in his place to appear, we don't often get to see, you know, we get to see that kind of a jokey situation with the, with the parents, with Amy and Alan and how they interact as adults. But to see Feeny as a student, talk to a dean and get put in his place the way any of us have been put in our place by a Feeney was kind of cute.

[Will Friedle]

And that moment too when you see Bill realize what he's just done, I mean those little acting moments for him.

[Ryder Strong]

Are just, they're so, they're effortless.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

And right now you can get up to a $10 digital Visa prepaid card when you buy up to $30 of Colgate Palmolive products.

[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

If you're a small business owner, launching a company or dreaming of starting one, then you'll not only want to make sure you're using a platform like Intuit QuickBooks, but you'll also want to check out season three of Mind the Business small business success stories from iHeartMedia's Ruby Studio and Intuit QuickBooks in every episode.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hosts Austin Henkiewicz and Janice Torres talk to small business owners about how they've grown and maintained their business and tackled the hurdles and challenges that come with being your own boss.

[Will Friedle]

From tracking money in and out to.

[Danielle Fishel]

Cutting through the complexity with an all encompassing platform like QuickBooks, you don't want to miss these inspiring stories of small business journeys.

[Ryder Strong]

Listen to mind the small business success Stories on the iHeartrade app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Then we're back in Topanga and Angela's dorm. Angela is at her desk when there's a knock at the door. It's Corey. He says hi to Angela and notices something. Oh look, I see you got my flowers. But he wonders, huh? Who sent you these balloons? He looks at the tag. Oh yeah, I did. He reads. From your friend Corey, Angela admits. I don't want you to send me anything. He shrugs. Well, it's too late. He wonders what she's doing and she says she's trying to study. Corey mentions that one time they studied for a test together. Wasn't that something? Angela shakes her head. We never studied for anything together. Corey responds with hope. Yeah, but we did other stuff together, right? Didn't we find out how Stella got her groove back together? Angela laughs. You are so down, brother. Which is really. I think this is really funny that they just called it out. He's such a try hard.

[Will Friedle]

Like, yeah, exactly.

[Danielle Fishel]

Not only trying with the flowers and the balloons, but like making up experiences and then naming a movie that he thinks she would have seen because it started a black actress, a black quote, unquote black film. And then she just calls it right out. Oh, it's. It's the equivalent of now saying, you are so woke, friends. Like it's a little bit of the 90s version of that. Which is. Is pretty funny. Corey gets serious. I want you to know that your friendship is really important to me no matter what happens between you and Shawn. Angela gets up and grabs her towel. Without saying a word, Corey asks, where are you going? And she says she's going to take a shower. Corey follows her out into the hall. Why do you have to take a shower now? She admits, because it's the one place I know you won't follow me. And walks inside. Corey tries to muster up the courage, but he can't quite do it.

[Ryder Strong]

It.

[Danielle Fishel]

Eventually he rushes toward the door and throws it open. Finally, stepping inside the dreaded co ed bathroom, he shouts out, angela. And she throws a shower curtain open in surprise. I thought you were scared to death of this place. Corey admits, I'm more scared of losing you. She rolls her eyes and yanks the curtain closed before grabbing her towel off the hook and exiting. Corey shields his eyes, but then a guy walks out of another shower and throws him into chaos. He stands there awkwardly until Angela finally appears next to her. Him? She asks. Okay. What do you want with me? Corey wants to know why she won't be friends with him. Don't you think I'm worth being friends with? She assures Corey it has nothing to do with him. And then she gathers her things to leave. Corey guesses it's Shawn, right? Just because you broke up with Shawn doesn't mean that we can't be friends. Angela breaks the news. I didn't break up with Shawn. He broke up with me. Can I get back to my shower now? Corey doesn't get it. What do you mean he broke up with you? He thinks it's mutual, Angela reveals, because that's what I want him to think. She tells Corey to stop asking her about this, but he wonders, why didn't you just tell him that you don't want to break up with him then? And Angela quips, oh, yeah, that's every girl's dream to beg somebody to stay with her. He needs his space. He wants to meet new people. Corey shakes his head. No, he's wrong. You know he's never going to find anybody as good as you. Angela tells him, you don't even know me. Corey agrees. You're right. I don't even know you. Why don't you give me a chance to get to know you. Angela admits that maybe Shawn's right. We've all been together so long, it's just time for us to Corey demands that she shut up. Angela is shocked. What? Corey says it again. Shut up. You couldn't be more wrong. Friendship is exactly what's going to get us all through this. Angela tries to argue, but Corey continues, and I am never going to go away. He places his hands on her shoulders and stares at her with intensity.

[Ryder Strong]

So intense.

[Will Friedle]

Never going anywhere.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, oh, Jesus. Yeah, I know.

[Danielle Fishel]

Angela sighs. You just don't get it, do you? It's hard enough to be in the same school with him, in the same class with him. And just when I get a moment where I'm not thinking about him, you want to come out and play? Corey is speechless. Angela continues, how do you expect me to hang out with you and not think about him? Corey argues, because I'm not Shawn. I'm me. And I know that if you just let me be friends with you, I promise I can make things better for you. And then sad music plays in the background as Angela asks him, you want to be my friend? Corey nods. Angela prods more, and you're going to keep to yourself how I feel about him. Him? Corey nods again. Because I don't want him to stop looking for who he is because he feels sorry for me. Okay? So you promise me you're not going to say anything about this ever. Corey innocently asks, can I talk about it with Topanga? Angela admits, Topanga doesn't know. Corey is shocked. Topanga's your best friend. Angela nods. Right. Corey can't believe it. And you haven't told her? She nods again. Corey realizes, but you told me. Corey gives her a soft smile and promises it'll stay between friends. They give each other a big hug as the music fades out.

[Ryder Strong]

See this? I really. I like this journey. I just wish it was more concrete. Like I want it to be like, what if, you know, let's say, you know, Sean chose a class. Like he dropped a class with Angela and chose this other class and this other subject meets this other girl and has this. And that's what she's upset about. But she can't be upset about it because it's like, oh, Shawn, Sean's into, you know, Roman history, whatever the class is there. Then this scene would not be just the I'm letting him become his own person by dating other people and I. It's all this abstract stuff that I don't know what, like, you've just described everything and I still can't tell you what she's. She's basically saying, corey, do you want to be my friend? Then keep information that I'm going through separate from Sean. But I don't even know what that information is.

[Danielle Fishel]

That she didn't want you to be broken up.

[Will Friedle]

That she really wanted to stay together.

[Danielle Fishel]

That you want to be with other women and she doesn't. He doesn't understand it.

[Ryder Strong]

I just. It's still so, like, I don't know, it's just loose and weird. Like, I just want it to be concrete. Like, I'm upset that he left this class and went and did this with this other girl.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And I'm upset about that. And I. I know I shouldn't be upset about it, but I am. Could you keep that from him? But it's. I just want it to be concrete. Like, it's not a story. It's like we're talk. We're characters talking about our own characters in this. You know, it's that thing that just drives me crazy. It's like, what?

[Will Friedle]

I just thought it was too intense. I just, I. I would have. It's like, can we ratchet down the performance one? I'm not going anywhere. Like, okay.

[Ryder Strong]

But part of that is because it's about nothing. It's all unmotivated. It's all characters feel. Talking about their emotions in this. Like, it's just not real. It's like, that's not how. I don't know, man. It just drives me crazy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like, I think. I think also maybe what we're feeling a little bit is like Corey when he says. It really hit me when I was just re reading it for the recap app when he says, you let me be your friend, I can make things better for you. This idea of like Corey being a savior in all of his friends lives, like, he somehow knows better than every other person. There's a little bit of an ickiness to him saying it to Angela. Like, what. What's your grand plan here? She's telling you her feelings, which is like, I'm really hurt. Your best friend is being a little. Little to me. But I don't want to beg him to stay with me. If he wants to put rubber bands on the door with new girls, then I guess that's what he should do. And I should realize I should think whether or not I actually want to be with him. But then him being like, let me be your friend. I will fix this. It's like, what's your. What's your grand plan here. How so? There's like a. There is a bit of a. An ickiness in, like, his savior.

[Will Friedle]

Well, I think his grand plan in his mind is I will sit Sean down and sit you guys down. I will be a counselor to you, and you will get married. Married.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

That's like. That's his end game. Yeah, exactly. That's his end game. It's very. It's really strange. But that's Boy Meets World. That's one of the tenets of Boy Meets World.

[Danielle Fishel]

And then we're in the developmental psychology class. Eric and Jack are standing at the front of the class finishing up their presentation. Eric closes with watches. Chocolate, cheese. Ladies and gentlemen, we give you the Swiss. Thank you. No one is impressed. And Jack whispers to his partner. We were supposed to prove something. Dean Bolender chimes in. He did.

[Will Friedle]

Great line.

[Danielle Fishel]

So great. She addresses the class. I think that's about all we can take today. I'll see you all on Thursday. As the students leave, Jack beelines for the dean. He apologizes. I am so sorry. I bet you have a really strong first impression of us, huh? She quips. Indelible. Eric chimes in. You know, this didn't all come from me. My boy Jackie here deserves the same grade I do. She has no problem with that. Done.

[Will Friedle]

She approaches psychology class. What is he talking about? The Swiss?

[Danielle Fishel]

Swiss? I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

Psychology class.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't know. I want to also know. Were those. Was that. Did that change throughout the week? A bunch of times.

[Will Friedle]

I know. I think it was always the Swiss.

[Danielle Fishel]

But it's just so random.

[Will Friedle]

It's like you're in a psychology class. What are you doing?

[Danielle Fishel]

So she approaches Feeny next and asks to have a word with him. His eyes go wide. You want me to stay after school? She chuckles. It's nothing so severe. She tells him. He had quite the presentation. He admits he doesn't know what got into him, but she has the answer. It was something that never really left you. Feeny assures her. He came to the school strictly as a student. He thought he'd retired from teaching. She understands. When I stopped teaching to become dean, I thought the same thing. But here I am. We're teachers, George. You put us in a classroom. We teach. Feeny admits. After all these years, I still have a lot to learn. He turns to Rachel and apologizes. I guess I was a poor choice for a partner. Rachel explains. I'd much rather have you as a teacher than as a partner. The dean agrees. I'd rather have him as a colleague than a student. Perhaps you'd like to call my office about that. Feeny says she has his gratitude. And Dean Bolender says she looks forward to his call.

[Ryder Strong]

What?

[Will Friedle]

Dtm.

[Danielle Fishel]

Once she leaves, we see Eric, who's been standing by listening, and we get. This is the. Is this the one you remember most writer this?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

This is like the start of the crazy Feeny call.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, yeah. I mean, now it's not even to call him.

[Will Friedle]

It's just. Yeah, this is the most famous one, I think. Overall, this is the most famous one.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. The.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, we get famous.

[Ryder Strong]

Craziest.

[Danielle Fishel]

The craziest. What? What? What? What?

[Will Friedle]

I love that you're doing it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hey, Hey.

[Ryder Strong]

I would love to see all the takes.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, God, I wonder what, three?

[Ryder Strong]

At least three.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

You know, each one is completely different.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, absolutely. Oh, that would be so fun, man. I would love that. Feeny responds with zero emotion. Reading the room, Eric tells Jack, dude, let's just go. Dude, let's go. In turn, everyone walks out, leaving Feenie alone in the classroom. He stares at the empty desks, remembering his true love. Teaching and salads for one. A smile spreads across his face. And then we are in the tag. In the co ed bathroom, Topanga is brushing her teeth. Straight up. Pantsless, like Winnie the Pooh.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

And Cory happily. Huh? Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Porky Piggin it.

[Will Friedle]

Porky Piggin it. Love it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just in a big Phillies T shirt or long sleeve.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

As Corey happily exits one of the showers, she grins. I'm really happy that you've gotten over your fear of the bathroom, but that's your fifth shower today. Corey boasts, I'm the cleanest boy in school. Topanga wonders, you know that guy Tim in our econ class? I was thinking maybe he and Angela could. What do you think? Corey shakes his head. No, he's not right for. I mean, she's not right for him. I mean, I don't think we should be setting up Angela. So quickly. Quickly. Then on cue, Angela walks in. She sees Corey and asks, what, do you, like, live here now? Corey laughs. No, No. I don't know what I was so afraid of. These co ed bathrooms are just a sensational concept. Topanga nods. Just think, if these things catch on, we'll be putting them in people's homes. Corey agrees. What a terrific idea. Then Shawn enters. He's happy to see everyone. Hey, guys. Hey, Angela. She smiles and greets him like normal. Shawn takes a spot next to Corey. What's up? Corey brushes his teeth, then glances over at Angela, who's staring right back at him. He tells Shawn nothing and goes back to brushing. Angela can't hide a smile from her end of the sink as their secret stays safe between those two friends.

[Ryder Strong]

It's nice and I do like a Coriangela connection.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, I do too.

[Will Friedle]

Corangela.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a nice the Corangela.

[Ryder Strong]

Corangela.

[Danielle Fishel]

I like it. Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram Pod Meets World show. You can send us your emails podmeatsworldshowmail.com and we've got Merch. Merch, merch, merch, merch. What? What? Podmeatsworldshow.com will send us out.

[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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