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Danielle Fishel
Okay, let me ask you a question. What is the key to having a productive morning?
Guest Speaker
It's breakfast, right?
Danielle Fishel
Yes. And that leads to another question. Who here has time for breakfast?
Will Friedle
I know I don't.
Danielle Fishel
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Guest Speaker
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Will Friedle
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Guest Speaker
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Will Friedle
So it's taken a while, but my bathroom. Your bath cave is finished. The bath cave is.
Danielle Fishel
Bath cave. The bath cave.
Will Friedle
The bath cave is done.
Guest Speaker
Nice.
Danielle Fishel
Are you so happy?
Will Friedle
I'm so happy.
Guest Speaker
And have you been reading in the shower?
Will Friedle
No, I have not been reading in the shower at all.
Guest Speaker
Strangely enough, never met another human being who does.
Will Friedle
Well, that's where you should read. It's like reading in a womb. It's warm and cozy and wonderful. And I will get back to reading in the shower. But for now, I'm just getting used to my. My. My bath cave. And one of the things I have, and I'll post a picture is. So there was this useless kind of little closet thing that I've opened up and made a much bigger kind of closet area. And I have some Batman stuff up there. And so two of the things I have are this bat signal that you gave me.
Danielle Fishel
Yes.
Will Friedle
And then above that is the bat shoes, the sneakers that you gave me. And so it looks super cool. And it's exactly. When I asked the guy what kind of tile, he said, well, what kind of tiles do you want? I said, imagine Batman comes back from just fighting everybody in Gotham and he's covered in blood. What bathroom does Bruce Wayne walk into? So that's the bathroom that I had designed. And I'm pretty happy. Pretty happy. So it's like it's a cool gray brick all along the side.
Guest Speaker
Do you have to take an elevator down onto underground?
Will Friedle
That would be sick.
Danielle Fishel
I wish he has a robot that comes out and removes his back.
Will Friedle
Okay. It gets even better because I then Put up a hook. And I went online and I found the most Bruce Wayne robe I could find. It's this long black cape kind of thing with this sick hood that comes up.
Danielle Fishel
Wow. And then you get on your robes. Batman undie pants.
Guest Speaker
I'm at my parents house right now.
Will Friedle
Yes.
Guest Speaker
And I'm in my. Where my grandparents used to live. That's where I'm sleeping. And I saw a robe.
Will Friedle
Oh, it's gonna be a good one too.
Guest Speaker
Mickey Mouse robe given to us by Disney. I still have that. So which one is it?
Danielle Fishel
So little.
Guest Speaker
I know. It's just a little boom.
Danielle Fishel
Oh my gosh.
Will Friedle
I still have it. I still have mine.
Danielle Fishel
Blue.
Will Friedle
No, they're white.
Guest Speaker
No, but it does look pretty ragged. It's been loved.
Danielle Fishel
I thought. I thought, I thought we had boy like navy blue boy.
Guest Speaker
We got a lot of robes.
Danielle Fishel
Okay.
Guest Speaker
ABC gave us. No, but the. The CR Gift every year from now.
Will Friedle
I'm thinking of the abc.
Danielle Fishel
I'm thinking of the ABC world. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will Friedle
That was cool. I remember one year Disney gave a gift. It was, I think many years after Boy Meets World ended. And I had done something. I think it was Kim Possible, something like that. And this little package arrived and I was like, oh, that's sweet. And I just forgot about it. I forgot about it. And like a year later I opened it. It was a video ipod. Wow. I was like, oh, I should have opened this a long time ago. Yeah. And I just kind of. I assumed it was some little trinket for going. And I was like, oh, they've upped their. Their gift game in a couple of years ago.
Danielle Fishel
It was a Disney themed crock pot. A little. A mini crock pot and some silicone spatula.
Will Friedle
I still have the little Mickey Mouse. The hands that are. It's Mickey's hands. But you've got the. What are they? The measuring sticks. Like the measuring cups. Yeah.
Guest Speaker
My parents still have the Mickey Mouse phone downstairs, which is pretty great.
Ryder Strong
Really?
Guest Speaker
Yeah. That's a big Mickey holding up the thing. So you.
Will Friedle
Yeah, I still have that. I still have the Mickey phone. I have that. My Darth Vader one.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah, that's. That's cute. I. I didn't get. I got rid of some. I made some interesting choices of things to get rid of. I wish I still had some of those things.
Will Friedle
I still have that stuff. Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Anyway, welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fishel.
Guest Speaker
I'm Ryder Strohn.
Will Friedle
And I'm Will Friedle.
Danielle Fishel
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Will Friedle
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Danielle Fishel
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Guest Speaker
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Danielle Fishel
I'm talking that Miu Miu off the Runway red leather bomber, the Cousteau Barcelona.
Will Friedle
Top with the cowboy on it.
Guest Speaker
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Will Friedle
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Danielle Fishel
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Guest Speaker
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Will Friedle
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Danielle Fishel
Welcome to today's episode recap. It's Season 6, Episode 19, Be True Air Date April 9, 1999 the synopsis When Mr. Feeney finally musters up the courage to ask Dean Bolender out, a surprise arrives in the form of her ex, Curtis Kincaid. So Eric convinces Corey and Sean on to evoke their old bad boy college selves to keep Feeny's hopes alive. It was directed by Mr. Mickey Dolenz.
Guest Speaker
The drummer and with the Monkeys.
Danielle Fishel
Yes. The drummer and lead singer of the legendary Monkees, a pop group forever linked to Boy Meets World, as each member of the band appeared on the show at some point, except.
Will Friedle
Except for Nesmith.
Danielle Fishel
Nesmith, yes. He did not.
Will Friedle
Who showed up the night of the show and said, okay, I'll be in it. And they went, that's not how that works, Mike. We've been rehearsing all week. Can't just throw you in.
Guest Speaker
I know this sounds like a story.
Will Friedle
This is not. Okay. This is a Sherman story. He's the one who brought him all on.
Guest Speaker
Well, there you go.
Will Friedle
Okay.
Guest Speaker
He's the one who.
Will Friedle
He's Mickey Dolan's best friend.
Guest Speaker
If it's a good Hollywood story, it's probably too good.
Will Friedle
Features. Oh, I saw him. I saw him. He was 100% there with his big bushy beard. So he was definitely there. That I can. That I can attest to. But I mean, that's the story we heard, is that he was like, I want to be on the show. And they were kind of like, you can't do that. You're in now. Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
The Monkees were put together by NBC to play a fictional group for a scripted comedy, but became a real life chart topping band with songs like I'm a Believer, Last Train to Clarksville, and Daydream Believer.
Will Friedle
Great song.
Danielle Fishel
Why so many believers?
Will Friedle
They believe in a lot of things. The Monkeys. I do. Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Really worked for them.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
This was the only episode of Boy Meets World he directed, and he is now the last surviving member of the Monkees.
Guest Speaker
Oh, wow.
Danielle Fishel
It was written by David Brownfield. And before I jump into, our guest stars, anyone want to share their overall thoughts?
Guest Speaker
All right, what did you guys think when you realized which episode this was? When you. Because, like, I. I saw the title Be True, I was like, what is that? And then it started. I was like, this is the be episode that Mickey directed. And then I was like, this one's awful. This is a disaster. Everything about this is gonna suck. Oh, my God, I can't believe I have to watch this. And then I was so pleasantly surprised by how this is a great episode. This is a great episode. And I hated myself for tanking it. I was like, Ryder, God, I was not good in this episode. I wasn't horrible, but I was definitely disagree.
Will Friedle
I think you were great.
Guest Speaker
I don't know. Me and Ben, there's, you know, we were, like, not having fun, like. And this is the classic, like, my memory is entirely based on the experience on the set, which was not fun this week. For whatever reason, we were miserable. I think it's because of the props. I think it's because we had a different director. It felt like a lot of things that had nothing to do with our show or. I don't know, for whatever reason, it was a bad week personally. And so those memories completely infected what otherwise is a very funny script and, like, totally fun, Totally fun episode.
Will Friedle
Now, I agree with you 100%. That's what I remember was that this was not a good week for us as a company. You know, Bill, I remember Bill having a lot of struggling this week with just the kind of atmosphere that was brought onto the set. This week was not a great one. And there were some struggles that were going on there, and I think that bled down to kind of the rest of us. And so that's what I remembered too. And I remember sitting that same thing where I was like, oh, God, this episode. And then watching it with Sue. We're both cackling. It was like, this is hysterically funny.
Guest Speaker
Like, this was a great.
Will Friedle
I was so happy. We needed it this season with the last couple episodes we've had. And so it was just. It was the quintessential romp. I was so happy to see this episode again.
Danielle Fishel
It was so fun. And I did remember that the overall memory of this episode was that it was a. That it was bad. I didn't remember why. And even hearing you guys talk about the energy on set, I have no memory of what that energy was. Was there a lot of conflict between Mickey and Michael?
Will Friedle
No, it was Mickey and Bill.
Guest Speaker
Bill. I think Bill was, you know, Bill had a lot to do this episode. I mean, it was suddenly, you know, he went from, what, two lines an episode for a while and to having to do a lot of comedy, having to do physical stuff, having to, like, you know, So I think that he was under pressure. His wife was there. You know, I don't know what happened, but it was not a good on set environment. And I. Yeah, and, yeah, it's funny to hear that, Will, because, like, I, you know, I didn't consciously remember that. It was Bill being upset, but, like, I could tell, especially in the scene where Ben and I are, like, breaking all the stuff. Like, we are low energy. We are. I also think we did not do a live audience, if I remember.
Danielle Fishel
So I think that decreased the energy.
Guest Speaker
It was a block and shoot, which made it harder and more complicated. So. Yeah, I think it was. Yeah. But watching it, I was like, oh, I was just not feeling it, which is too bad, because the idea of, like, Cory Shawn doing their, like, Cory Shawn stuff should have been fun. Like, we should have been having fun with this stuff. And instead, I could tell that it was laborious for me even watching. I was like, yeah, it was a strange week.
Will Friedle
It was a strange week that still birthed a really fun episode.
Danielle Fishel
I know. It's so. Even just listening to you guys talk about it, it's funny to me that, like, thinking. Taking myself out of the show, thinking about people watching it, going. They must have had so much fun that week, you know, because, like, it does play, like, a really fun episode.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
And then to know that bts, everyone was like, let's just get through it.
Will Friedle
Yeah. It was. Because it is a shame. It put. It put some OGs back together, put Corey and Sean back together the way.
Danielle Fishel
They were supposed to be mafia guys.
Will Friedle
Yes. It put Eric and Feeney back together. And it just. It was from the way it was.
Guest Speaker
Supposed to be seen. I was just like, oh, pure Eric Feeney joy. I was like, yes, just keep. And you guys are so good in it. It was really fun.
Will Friedle
It was great. And yeah, I didn't remember. Obviously, there's certain things that have become memes. Like, you're in a triangle, Feeny. So I remembered when that came, I was like, oh, wait, this is that scene.
Danielle Fishel
Right.
Will Friedle
But other than that. And then the brain, the think fast. I remember that. Then the rest of the week, I knew nothing of this episode. The whole thing with Matt Lawrence in the giant shoes didn't like, none of that was.
Guest Speaker
I remember, I will say, not a great B story.
Will Friedle
Well, it's just kind of thrown in there.
Guest Speaker
I mean, the tag is pretty, Pretty bad. There's a robber, turns out to be an old lady. That storyline just went to there. It was like this one note joke three times.
Will Friedle
And old people, old women thinking they. They shouldn't be together was kind of the joke. It should have been an old lady, and then it should have been a little kid. And then it should, like, right.
Danielle Fishel
Why are there so many old ladies in our building?
Will Friedle
I.
Guest Speaker
You know, I bet this is how that went. They went. And then they walk into the hallway and there's an old lady, and she says, you're too tall for. Right. And then they were like. And then. Then they come out and there's somebody else who does it, too.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
And then even the robber does. And they were like, but what if the robber was also an old lady? You know what I mean? It was like. It just went a hat on a hat on a hat until there was like. Actually, guys, it's. It's not that funny.
Will Friedle
It's not that great.
Guest Speaker
It's not funny to begin with. And now you're just.
Will Friedle
I want those shoes, though. I want to. I want to try that. I want to see what it's like to be. Because as Susan pointed out to me. And we'll get to it. In the scene, she's in flats.
Danielle Fishel
I know.
Will Friedle
So I did not realize that. She's literally like 10 inches taller than Matt.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Who's. He's not that much shorter than me. I mean, we're maybe an inch or so.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
He's probably at least five, five eight, if not five, nine.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Guest starring Francis X. McCarthy is Curtis Kincaid. He's a recognizable character actor you've seen in movies like the Man With Two Brains, Baseball, Summer School, and Summer Rental.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Oh, okay. So incredible. He was immediately Will.
Will Friedle
Oh, God, yes.
Guest Speaker
Because I was like, this guy's amazing. He must work all the time. But I actually couldn't think of anything I've seen him in. Summer Rental is the only movie that you mentioned that I've seen.
Will Friedle
So you haven't seen the man with Two Brains?
Guest Speaker
No.
Will Friedle
Oh, my God. It's Steve Martin, Arguably Steve Martin's greatest movie ever.
Guest Speaker
So was the brain thing of reference to that? Were they, like, riffing on.
Danielle Fishel
No.
Will Friedle
I mean, not really. He. He doesn't have that big a part, but it's. Oh, God. The man with Two Brains is. It's one of the greatest comedies of all time. Oh.
Danielle Fishel
Well, he's also in around 100 TV shows, including Cheers, St. Elsewhere, Elf, the Secret World of Alex Mack, and NCIS. He is still working at the age of 83.
Will Friedle
Oh, sweet.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah. We have Bonnie Bartlett back as Dean. Lila Bolander. Yay. And Sandra Gould plays little old lady. She's best known as Gladys Kravitz on Bewitched. But also Amongst over her 100 credits is I Love Lucy. The Jack Benny Program. I'm just gonna say program like that.
Will Friedle
Jack Benny Program.
Danielle Fishel
That's how my grandmother would tell. I'm Watching my programs. The Jack Benny Program, the Brady Bunch and the Don Knotts movie, the Ghost and Mr. Chicken, and boy Meets World was her last role. She would die later that year at age 83. Oh, my God. Well, she didn't enjoy the week either.
Will Friedle
No. God. But also, you blew by one of the biggest television characters of all time, Mrs. Kravitz.
Danielle Fishel
Oh, Ms. Kravitz.
Will Friedle
Ms. Kravitz. Have you never heard of, like, it's. Whenever somebody's a nosy neighbor, it's always, oh, a real Mrs. Kravitz.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah, a real Mrs. KravitZ.
Will Friedle
That's what that's from. She's the Mrs. KravitZ from Bewitched. I had no idea. Oh, that's awesome.
Danielle Fishel
We have lillian Adams as Mrs. Furlong. She was a very busy background actor, best known as Tilly in Steve Martin's the Jerk, seen in Navin's humble Mississippi Beginnings. But she also appeared in Bruce Almighty, Little Nicky, Wings, and Frasier. But honestly, she appeared in every TV show from 1982 to 2011, when she passed away at the age of 89. And finally, Mildred.
Guest Speaker
She gets a name and the other. Other woman gets little old lady.
Danielle Fishel
There's. The other one is Mrs. Berthelson. Huh?
Will Friedle
Okay, okay.
Danielle Fishel
She was also on Party of Five. So Mildred Dumas is Mrs. Berthelson. She was also on Party of Five. Two guys, a girl in a pizza place, and two episodes of Malcolm in the Middle. So which one do we think is the robber? Little old lady. Why wouldn't they call her robber or something?
Will Friedle
Yeah, I don't know.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, because I guess the. They would know the other women because they were, like, in the building or neighbors or whatever. But the. The robber would just be. The reveal is. It's a little old lady.
Danielle Fishel
Right? Right. As opposed. I mean, also, you could call her a burglar. You could call. You know, call her something burglar, to.
Will Friedle
Me, evokes like, the hamburglar, like the black and white shirt and like, oh, I'm gonna punch you in the mush. See, like, that's like that kind of thing.
Guest Speaker
It's something that I like. I actually do tell my writing students. I was like, give them. An actor is going to have to play this, and you're going to have to hire them. If you write ugly girl number three or fat guy eating in the corner, think about how that's gonna make them feel, and think about the quality of the performance you're gonna get from the actor who agrees to do that role versus you. Know. Cause they are gonna feel defeated already. Just start. So just try, just try. Give them a new name. Give him a little bit. You know, it's a gift to the actor, whatever. Make it fun for them. Not humiliating. But back in the day they still. And they used to do it all the time. They would just write that, you know, geeky guy, whatever. And it's like they would think it's funny and you'd get that. The perspective of the show or the perspective of the movie is that. But recognize that a human being's gonna have to play this. So give them a.
Danielle Fishel
If I started auditioning again and I started getting a bunch of frumpy middle aged lady, I'd be like, oh God, it's okay.
Guest Speaker
But. Or I mean, even when it's positive, like, because, you know, I remember having to audition for like hot guy this or whatever and I would not do it. I wouldn't audition. Or I'd just be like, I'm never going to get this. I would be so insecure that I'm like, well, they obviously want, right?
Danielle Fishel
What they really want is someone hotter than I would do that.
Will Friedle
I do that all the time. It's like, hey, we lucky to come in and read for the quarterback.
Guest Speaker
I'm like, why?
Will Friedle
You're never going to cast me as the quarterback. Like, it's never going to happen. But is that fat guy 3 eating in the corner that. Is that a role that's available? Because I'd like to, I'd like to go.
Guest Speaker
If it involves free food, yeah.
Will Friedle
And sitting in a corner, that's all I have to do. Love that. I'll take that all day.
Danielle Fishel
Jumping into our recap, we start in the student union. Feeny walks in and Eric, seated at a table, quickly spots him. Feeny, you here, sit. Now. Feeny hesitantly approaches his student. Eric. Don't do that. Eric interrupts him. Dean Bolender. Feeny quickly takes a seat. Okay, what you got?
Will Friedle
I was so happy just watching this because I don't remember any of this, but just seeing Eric and Feeny together again, I was like, oh, this is.
Danielle Fishel
So nice, so great, so much fun.
Guest Speaker
I'm also officially at the stage where I am appreciating and wishing I had Feeny's wardrobe. That coat is delightful.
Danielle Fishel
It's gorgeous.
Guest Speaker
I was just like, I was coveting it. That's the word I was looking for. I was coveting Feeny's wardrobe. I was like, I'm an old man now. Where I'm like, I want to officially, I want that. Because that was a. It's like a window pane. Whatever stripe it is just. I was like, oh, Feeny, looking good.
Danielle Fishel
Looking good, Feeny.
Guest Speaker
I want that coat.
Danielle Fishel
It is so great.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, he always rocks the coat vest combo too, which I just feel like you have to be like 60 plus to pull off.
Will Friedle
But like Bonnie told me, I think he still has a lot of his wardrobe. So I think a lot of those suits that he's still got.
Danielle Fishel
Maybe you. Maybe next time when we see Bill in Long beach, just be like, can you maybe ask him? Could I, could I borrow one of your jacket vest combos, try it out for a weekend, see if I like it.
Will Friedle
Thank you. Love it. I'm sorry. Every time you just said. When we see Bill in Long Beach, I just picture Bill in his scooter, but rock back like this, driving. And you just hear in like the LBC going on in the back. Like, yeah, just Bill in the lbc.
Danielle Fishel
I can't wait.
Will Friedle
Yeah, it's gonna be awesome.
Danielle Fishel
So Eric asks, how old are you now, Mr. Feeny? What, 90? 100? Feeny glares back, 100. What do you want? Eric clarifies himself. Not what I want. It's what you want. But you're not going. After, Feeny informs Eric, my relationship with Dean Bolender will proceed at my pace, not yours. But Eric argues, you are such a scaredy cat. I mean, here's a woman that you've obviously got the hots for and you're not going to do anything about it. It. Mr. Feeny angrily looks at Eric. Mr. Matthews, don't reduce my feelings for the woman to the hots. Unless, of course, she used that term. Eric insists, Mr. Feeny, you have been good to me over the years. You taught me everything I never paid attention to. It's payback time. Feeny's not interested. Oh, no, no, no. Payback time. I don't want it, Eric. Eric isn't hearing it while sipping his coffee. It's out of your hands, Feeny. Sorry, out of your hands. Feeny explains, Dean Bolender is the kind of woman that you have to romance slowly, carefully, like an orchid. I'm a gardener. I know these things. Then on cue, Topanga and Angela walk in with Dean Bolender. The Dean tells the girl, stop selling me. I like the man very much, but he needs to pick up the pace of this dance. Topanga defends her mentor. Isn't there anything to be said for the old fashioned approach? She sarcastically responds, yeah. And then makes a fart noise.
Will Friedle
Little raspberry. Yep.
Guest Speaker
This could have been punched up a little bit. I was like, why, why are Topanga and.
Danielle Fishel
Because we needed us somewhere.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, yeah. It would have been nice to just give a little bit of like pre conversation with you guys that sets up that she, that you think that she and Phoenix. You know, I don't know. I know it's all time constraint, but.
Will Friedle
Then a better story just with literally it should have been Topanga and, and Angela and Jack.
Guest Speaker
So big at. Right.
Danielle Fishel
So big.
Guest Speaker
And then you have like basically two guest stars. You have the Dean and, and the adventurer taking over so much time and.
Will Friedle
Old lady one through eight. There's a lot of people on the set.
Danielle Fishel
You know, it is really interesting thinking about what we've talked about with there being some tension between Mickey and Bill. It is really interesting that they gave this big Bill episode to a first time director that had a lot of set pieces.
Will Friedle
I mean we had the bee and I remember that was a big problem. And the props, there was a ton of props and there new sets and. Yeah, maybe that's why they. I, I often wonder, do you. I mean you're both directors so you would know this. How far into the process will they decide? No audience.
Danielle Fishel
I mean, I mean is it the.
Will Friedle
Table read or is it well before production? Okay, so it's not like sometimes before the scripts are coming in in three weeks from the show. It's like, you know what, this episode here, we're not going to do this one in front of the audience.
Danielle Fishel
On boy, we probably did decide at the production meeting on shows I work on now if they're shows that have a live audience sometimes, like by the time the outline is out, it's already been discussed. This is gonna be a big episode. We're already thinking about blocking and shooting and so it's decided like well before. But on boy, we probably figured out at the production meeting or the week before when the outline came out and people were like, look at all these sets that we're gonna have to build.
Will Friedle
But this was a thing, this was a thing on our show because think about Hafer's first episode.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Was the Casablanca one.
Danielle Fishel
I know.
Will Friedle
I mean it's like there is a lot of times when they gave first time directors really complicated shows.
Guest Speaker
That's true. Also the Eskimo. Was her name Jody?
Danielle Fishel
Jody.
Guest Speaker
No, it wasn't Jody. That was Lisa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a difficult one.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
But I mean, and that is, that's a, that's a definite test of the director for the first time for sure. And it's an unnecessary one. But like more than even just first time director and big sets for Bill. Like Bill would have probably been a.
Will Friedle
Lot more comfortable with Kendall or somebody like that.
Danielle Fishel
Somebody he really knew, who knew him really well, who also knew how Bill liked to receive notes, because did he ever receive notes like. And so I can't. It just feels like a situation that. That wasn't avoided. Yeah. Could have been avoided and. And wasn't really the most supportive of our, you know, the actor on the show that maybe deserved the most protection. So Dean Bolender continues, he needs to do something. He needs to express his feelings. Goodness knows I've been dropping the man hints left and right. Angela suggests, maybe you're being too subtle. Dean Bolender shows some skin and admits, I hiked up my skirt at the seminar. Angela's impressed. Damn table. It is funny. Back at the table, Eric is giving Feeny a pep talk. The time is now. Every second you wait is another clogged artery. The professor turns to look at Dean Bolender and admits, you know, my cholesterol level is high. Eric dramatically asks George, if not now.
Will Friedle
When is this the first George from Eric?
Danielle Fishel
I think so.
Will Friedle
I think this is the first. I mean, that, that hit the ears weird where it's like, wow, you just called him George. Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
And Feeny finally decides. Now he gets up and Eric jumps right out of his chair too, following Feeny and grabbing his shoulders. That's right. That's right. You are the man. You are the man. Feeny can't take anymore. Oh, will you just get lost? Eric quickly responds, I'm lost. Just bring her home. Just bring her home. Feeny approaches the dean. Excuse me, Dean Bolender, there's something that I've been meaning to say to you. And then, just as he's getting to the good part, he's interrupted by a man barging into the student union with his arms wide open. There she is, Lila Bolender, the eighth wonder of the world. Dean Bolender yells Curtis. And runs into his arms. A defeated Feeny says to Erica he must know her. And it's a romp.
Guest Speaker
It's a romp. We're romping.
Danielle Fishel
We're romping. We go to a commercial break and then we return to the student union. Curtis and Dean Bolender walk back to a confused Feeny, their arms intertwined. The Dean is gushing, well, Curtis, what's it been, 15 years? Curtis agrees, all this time I'm running around the world Digging up bones and you're here. Not aging a day doesn't seem fair, but I like it. Eric tries to assure Feeny, relax. This guy's got nothing. Dean Bolender walks Curtis over. I want you to meet someone. This is my colleague and friend, George Feeny. Curtis reaches out his hand. Curt Kincaid. Put it there. Feeny accepts the handshake and responds. A pleasure, Mr. Kincaid. Curtis laughs. Oh, come on. What's with the Mister? It's Dr. Kincaid.
Guest Speaker
Great line. Great. Wonderful. Oh, it's.
Danielle Fishel
That's perfect.
Will Friedle
Dr. Kincaid.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah. What's with the Mister? It's Dr. Dean Bolender explains. Curtis is in town to speak at our science seminar. He's made some top secret finds in Africa, so he came to Penbrooke.
Will Friedle
Yes, of course.
Guest Speaker
This is the renowned international archaeology school.
Danielle Fishel
That is famous for this. Curtis humbly brags, oh, just a little something that will change the course of the new millennium. Feeny's surprised. So then you're an archaeologist? Curtis pleads, George, that makes me feel like a geezer with a compass. I prefer fortune hunter, adventurer, or my personal favorite, Lila's ex husband.
Will Friedle
Oh, sorry, no audience. I'm doing it myself.
Danielle Fishel
Eric whispers to Feeny X. It's not a problem. But then Curtis grabs Dean Bolender's hands and proclaims, but I'm here to win her back. Eric suddenly shifts course and suggests, you know what? You've been alone this long. How about, you know, like a puppy salad for one, With a puppy.
Will Friedle
Poor George. Does anybody else have a problem thinking that Pembroke has to be just a school if Eric's at it?
Danielle Fishel
No, I haven't. But, you know, I mean, it's like.
Will Friedle
Really, it's like Eric and Topanga are at the same school, but there are.
Guest Speaker
Those schools that are big. Like, big state schools are big. And they have, you know, various levels.
Will Friedle
So this is the Arizona State of Pittsburgh.
Guest Speaker
I think it's Penn State. I think it's like Penn State because Penn State is. Is actually a very good school. Yeah, but it's also very big. And they allow, you know, they have a higher acceptance rate because they have, like, state funding. So they. They allow people that have like a certain gpa. So it's like, you know, it's basically like combining a junior college and a university. When you get that big, it's like you have all the levels represented.
Will Friedle
So then Eric's in the junior college version of basically, you know, that works for me then.
Danielle Fishel
Okay, so then we're in the school hallway. Eric stands in front of Sean and Corey's bake sale table, dramatically narrating a God in a Godfather esque accent. And the man stepped in between them. And the course of true love for one of our own may have forever been altered by this Skivosa.
Guest Speaker
I don't think it's even a word.
Danielle Fishel
I don't know either. I don't know.
Will Friedle
I don't know. Yeah, I don't even think it's a word. Okay, where.
Guest Speaker
Where does this come from?
Will Friedle
No idea. It's also way too long. It's funny, but it's way too long.
Guest Speaker
It's so funny. So I was watching this episode with Ocean, who is like, you know, only seen one or two episodes of Boy Beats World ever. He used to come to tapings, but he. And. And that was his day. He's like, yeah, okay, we get the joke. This is.
Danielle Fishel
We get it.
Guest Speaker
And I was like, you know what happened? We did it. It was probably, like, only four lines. And the writers just thought it was so funny. And then they were like, let's keep going with this. This could only get better going.
Will Friedle
It was like, wow, let's pull some.
Guest Speaker
Topanga Angela dialogue and give it to the guys doing this. Yeah, that'll be funny.
Will Friedle
It's really long.
Guest Speaker
They drove it to the ground. They drove it to the ground. It's too bad.
Danielle Fishel
It really. You're right.
Guest Speaker
By the time, like, I'm getting up and walking around, it was like, just. If we just had us, like, sipping the thing and Corey saying, why do.
Danielle Fishel
You come to me?
Guest Speaker
But I just didn't. I just wanted. I was. I remembered this. I knew it was funny. It was funny, but without the music, which sets it up. Why is this happening? Why are we suddenly Italian?
Danielle Fishel
I don't. Why do you have a bake sale?
Guest Speaker
I know.
Will Friedle
Well, I think the whole point is supposed to be you're the. The two. You're the godfathers of mayhem, right?
Danielle Fishel
So.
Will Friedle
But you've gone legit because Corey is on probation, and you have found yourself while traveling.
Guest Speaker
How do you know Cory's on probation?
Will Friedle
Like. Like he even says it. He says that the principal put me on probation for. He goes, I remember, Eric, I hit a teacher. I'm on probation. If I do anything, I'm kicked out of here.
Guest Speaker
I guess I just wish before the accents that was set up.
Will Friedle
Do you know what I mean?
Guest Speaker
It was like, right? It was like Eric said, I need help. I needed someone to help me. And somebody, you know, was next to you and said, well, you can't ask Corey and Sean. Why not? Well, they've gone legit. And then we cut to this scene, you know, and then I'm like, oh, okay, they have to do the bake sale. Because, I don't know, it was just like to have us discussing it already in Italian accents and doing this whole thing. I was a little disoriented. I was like, okay, I'll just go with it.
Will Friedle
Fine, whatever.
Guest Speaker
Don't overdo.
Will Friedle
It's very. It's. Yeah, too long and very random, but.
Danielle Fishel
Pretty damn funny for a funny joke. It is a funny joke, but there's a lot of math to get to it. And yeah, once we got the joke and get a good solid laugh, get out.
Will Friedle
And also, I think we should have dropped the accents at some point and been like, why are we Italian? Like, you could.
Danielle Fishel
Why are you doing that?
Will Friedle
Our big circle right now.
Danielle Fishel
Because you're doing it. Why are you doing it?
Will Friedle
You did it. I don't know. This isn't even my hat. Like, I mean, it could have been funny. Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Corey looks at Eric and also delves into this mafia inspired moment. Why do you come to us now on this, the day of our bake sale? Eric explains, well, because this just happened like five minutes ago. Corey asks, okay, what do you need? And Eric admits, I need for you to do me this favor. The tension is broken up by Sean loudly slurping his coffee. Corey puts his hand on his chest. You need me to do you this favor? You never invited me into your home. You never invited me for a cup of coffee. Sean shakes his head in disapproval. Eric admits, I thought the joke.
Guest Speaker
At this point, I was like, the. The joke is going to be that Sean never speaks, but he has all the power.
Danielle Fishel
Yes, exactly.
Guest Speaker
And so I thought Corey was going to have to, like, check with me. And I, like, do a double sip. Which then means.
Danielle Fishel
Yes, means something.
Guest Speaker
Oh, it's like. And I thought that would have been way funnier and we could have just gotten out. But instead, you know, I gotta get up and do the. Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Eric admits, yes, I know. And for this I am sorry, but we must help Feeny. But he mustn't know that it is us. That is the biggest. This is the biggest job we've ever attempted to pull off. I come to you with my hat in my hand. Corey pipes up, it's my hat. And Eric snaps back, it's my hand. Are you in or are you out?
Guest Speaker
Great beat.
Danielle Fishel
Sean chimes in, eric, we're flattered that you've come to us, but look around. We're legitimate now. Corey points out, we're in the bake sale business. But Eric pleads, guys, it's Feeny. He's family. This may be his one chance at true love. Shawn reminds him, I just spent 68 bucks traveling around this country. I learned a few things about life. Corey asks, why don't you tell him what you learned, Sean? Then, breaking character, Corey whispers to his brother, I love this part. Shawn starts his diatribe, I learned to be at peace with myself. I like looking over my shoulder and not worrying about who's coming after me. Then, as a student walks past Sean, he does look over his shoulder.
Guest Speaker
It's such a good feat. I kind of wish it was on the other side, though, right? Like the camera, because you just. I look away, but it was. Yeah, the rhythm is good, but I wish we had.
Danielle Fishel
Oh, it's so funny. He continues, these schemes and capers I used to hatch, they only lead to despair. That's what I learned. I also learned never to park a trailer across a railroad track. When that thing is down, that thing is down. It's perfect, right?
Guest Speaker
Because if I knew the name for it, it wouldn't be funny. But you know, that thing so good.
Danielle Fishel
It's like, if you knew the name for it, it would be a full lesson learned. Instead, it's just like a, yeah, you learned enough, boy.
Guest Speaker
Really good. It's really good.
Danielle Fishel
Corey adds, besides, Eric, I hit a teacher. Remember, the dean put me on probation. I do one thing wrong, I'm out of here. Sean asks Eric, don't you think Feeny can take care of himself? But Eric shakes his head. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed to call you guys my brother and Sean. The more we say how long this went on. Every time I read another thing, though, I'm like, but what do you call. That's the problem.
Guest Speaker
That's the problem. They were like, we just got to go with it. We just got to. Yeah, but it is too long for us.
Will Friedle
It's really funny. It was just too long, but it's really funny.
Danielle Fishel
He grabs a cupcake off the table and shoves it in his mouth, staring down Shawn in the process. Then he walks away to a big applause from the inmates. Unimpressed, Shawn tells Corey he ate the paper.
Will Friedle
Wait a minute. That's right. There's applause.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Will Friedle
So maybe there is an audience.
Danielle Fishel
There must have been. Or at least some of the scenes.
Will Friedle
Yeah, maybe. It sounded pretty organic, though. The clapping. That's right.
Guest Speaker
And there's the reaction to the brain stuff. But they ooh and ah. But I also. I definitely remember taping.
Danielle Fishel
Wait, you know what I remember? Maybe they played this episode for another audience, like, another week's audience and captured reactions.
Will Friedle
Maybe that's what they did. Yeah, that could have been it.
Danielle Fishel
The brain stuff. There's no way that would have been something we shot in front of the audience.
Will Friedle
No, that was the other side of the. That was the same side as the audience as well. If you're looking at the audience, it was all the way down to the left, and it was a big, cavernous kind of set at the time. And that definitely wasn't done in front of the audience. But I can't remember if we just blocked and taped a couple scenes, and then I'm just remembering.
Guest Speaker
This is the episode where NSYNC came to visit and I had the conversation about the Monkeys.
Danielle Fishel
Please tell the story again. It's so funny. That story cracks me up.
Will Friedle
It was.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. So we were at Craft Service, and it was me and Justin and I guess Lance or whoever else having a conversation about, like, what's next? And. And Justin's sake. Yeah. For NSync. And Justin was like, yeah, well, you know, they want us to do, like, a TV show or, you know, like, with the band as acting. And I was. And I was like, are you gonna do that? And he was like, yeah, we really don't want to do that. And we were both just sort of like. Like acknowledging that's kind of a crappy, cheesy idea. Hokey idea. And Mickey Dolan's grabbed a handful of nuts right behind from Craft Service. Like, why? Why not? Why not? And was eating. And I just remember watching Justin turn, make realize who he's talking to, make the calculation, be like, oh, well, it's just not, you know, we'll see. It's. We're on tour, maybe. I mean, I don't know why we would. And, like, it was just one of the greatest moments. Only when Hollywood see the calculation and.
Will Friedle
Like, oh, you got Justin Timberlake backpedaling in front of Mickey Dolan's of the Monkeys. Only in Hollywood craft service tables, you get to see this kind of stuff.
Danielle Fishel
Oh, my gosh.
Guest Speaker
Why would a boy band be in a TV show? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Danielle Fishel
Oh. Oh, hello.
Guest Speaker
Hello.
Danielle Fishel
He's behind me, isn't he?
Guest Speaker
It probably also came out of. Now that I realize it, the conversation probably evolved out of nobody's angel having been on our show. So, you know, the idea of, like, bands appearing on shows Like, I'm sure that that's why he and I were talking about it.
Danielle Fishel
Mickey Dolan's direct that episode.
Guest Speaker
Well, that would have been. That would have made sense. But I'm sitting there.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
I probably was like, you know, it really didn't work. Like, we had these girls on our show. Do you know, nobody? And then Justin was like, yeah, they want us to do it, but it's gonna be. Why would we ever do that? Oh, Mickey. It's a great moment.
Danielle Fishel
So then we're in the apartment. Jack and Rachel are making out. But something seems to be bothering her. Jack is wor. What's the matter? She explains. You know, I really love this, but have you noticed that this is all we do? Jack smiles. Yeah, Isn't it great? She agrees. Yeah. Yeah, it is great. But I want more. Jack looks up at God. Oh, thank you. He grabs Rachel's hand to head upstairs. Well, more is right this way.
Will Friedle
So they're not sleeping together.
Guest Speaker
They live together. Of course sleep together.
Danielle Fishel
It's just this.
Will Friedle
But again, we've. We've already talked about the fact that, that. That Jack has had sex because he's in the Scream episode. He's dead. So you just. I don't know why they had to bracket the fact that they're definitely not having sex. Like, why even address it in any way, shape or form?
Danielle Fishel
Because it's.
Will Friedle
They're in their 20s and they live together.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Will Friedle
And are dating.
Guest Speaker
I mean, it's just a kids show.
Will Friedle
I know, but it's not, though. At this point, they were all, you know, adults in college.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
It's tjf, though. They're still hoping that eight year olds are watching, I guess.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
I don't know.
Will Friedle
It just seemed. It seemed like a weird thing to throw out there. Like, yes, I get to have sex with this adult woman I live with.
Danielle Fishel
The next thing she says is, but. But she stops him. Oh, no. I mean, I want us to be a couple. So.
Will Friedle
Okay, so they're.
Danielle Fishel
They're not officially a couple.
Will Friedle
They live together.
Guest Speaker
I mean, that's.
Danielle Fishel
But they live together because.
Guest Speaker
Right.
Danielle Fishel
Because they were living together.
Will Friedle
Separate rooms. We think they're. I think she went up one direction, kept the rooms. Okay.
Danielle Fishel
Jack's confused. We are a couple. She's not sold. I want to go out, Jack. We haven't gone out since we've become a couple. Why don't we ever go anywhere? So I guess they are a couple. I don't know. He disagrees. We go plenty of places. He points to different Places in the apartment. First you went there, then you went there, and now we're going to go up there. She clarifies. I want to be with people. I want to go dancing. Jack looks stressed. Let's go to the movies, she points out. The movies are dark, no one will see us, and I want to show you off. She scoots closer to him. I want to go dancing. You can dance, right? Jack half heartedly answers, yeah, I can dance.
Will Friedle
It's a great answer to the way he does it, because he can. He's great at it. He's just like, yes, yes, I can dance.
Guest Speaker
It's a great read.
Danielle Fishel
She hugs him and exclaims, great. Then we'll go dancing tomorrow night. She begins to walk upstairs. Oh, Jack, this is going to be so much fun. I can't wait. Jack does not seem to be too happy about this. This plan. This plan. And then we're in Feeny's classroom. The students are sitting at their desks while Feeny and Dean Bolender also watch on as Curtis speaks to the class about his adventures. So I jump off the cliff, grab hold of a big old branch, Jungle Jim to the river, and never saw Chief Yakazo's ugly mug again. And the cursed Ruby of the Tsang Kwai now resides in the Turkish Museum of Natural History, diagonally across from the Hard Rock Cafe.
Guest Speaker
I love that.
Danielle Fishel
The end.
Will Friedle
The end.
Danielle Fishel
Hard Rock Cafe makes me laugh. So. Gosh, it was so big in the 90s.
Will Friedle
God, it was so great. That. And it was. Do you remember Planet Hollywood? The. Is it the Captain Crunch chicken fingers? Yes. That we would all go to get the Captain Crunch with that amazing dipping sauce. Like, why did we.
Guest Speaker
I feel like I was always being invited to Planet Hollywood for some event.
Danielle Fishel
We were always invited to Planet Hollywood. We got to put our hands and the mud.
Will Friedle
I don't know.
Guest Speaker
They only wanted Topangas.
Will Friedle
No, I got. I had mine done, too.
Guest Speaker
Really?
Danielle Fishel
Yeah. You did it too.
Guest Speaker
For sure. And it wasn't mud. It was cement. Right. I mean, that's like a. Okay.
Danielle Fishel
It's just muddy stuff.
Guest Speaker
They didn't just like, have you put it in mud and then wash it off.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah. Okay, so like four inches. Three. Four inches.
Will Friedle
Okay. Regular photo, this episode photo, for some.
Guest Speaker
Reason they put her in lifts then, even though they look like flats.
Will Friedle
Look how much taller she is now.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Maybe she's in flats for that opening scene. So that we establish she's in flats. And then for the rest of the episode, she actually wore heels.
Will Friedle
Oh, maybe that's what it is. Because, I mean, she's like. She's like 6 inches taller than him here.
Danielle Fishel
I bet, though, if she stood right next to him, it wouldn't be that big of a difference. I bet that angle. But I do. It is possible that she had on little heels for the rest of the episode and for that establishing shot.
Will Friedle
Those are her shoes in the episode. I can't tell what they are.
Danielle Fishel
Ah, there's a little heel there.
Guest Speaker
Oh, yeah.
Ryder Strong
Oh yeah.
Will Friedle
So that's what. Okay. So that's what. Cause this is the two of them together when he's in the gigantic shoes.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. Cause he's getting like 6 inches off of that.
Will Friedle
At least. At least. So, okay.
Danielle Fishel
All the students except for Eric clap in amazement. Topanga and Angela let out an inspired wow. Eric aggressively asks them, hey, whose side are you on? Feeny speaks up, well, thank you, Dr. Kincaid, for that vivid story, which provides us with a perfect transition into today's assignment, where on neighboring Crete, we will find Sir Arthur Evans excavating a Minoan gnosis. I don't know what. I don't know how to say any of that. Beginning in 1899, as Feeny continues to lecture, the class clearly falls into boredom. Eric casually walks to the front of the room to throw something out, and on his way back to his seat, Eric coughs into Feeny's ear, you're dying. Do something. Feeny continues, we will read what Evans was most interested in excavating and the effect it had on archaeology in the 20th century. Even Curtis looks bored. He exclaims, ponderous, man. Ponderous. While shaking his head, Dean Bolender tells her ex, george is a fine educator. Curtis. Curtis shrugs his shoulders. Sorry, but when you've had these experiences firsthand, it's a little hard to get excited about reading a book. But I suppose reading is a lot safer than actually doing something. Oh.
Will Friedle
Shots still in the audience. Yeah, still gonna be the audience.
Danielle Fishel
Eric, Corey, and Sean overhear these statements, and a little Italian music starts to play. The three boys exchange looks. Corey leans into Sean, back in his Godfather accent. I feel as though this gentleman may require our attention. Sean nods in agreement, perhaps a lesson in humility. Corey adds something big. Shawn agrees, something spectacular. Corey looks at Shawn and in his normal voice, prefaces, but let's not get caught like all the other times, okay? And then we're in the college science department storage closet.
Guest Speaker
Sure.
Danielle Fishel
Corey and Sean walk inside, and it is invaluable objects and artifacts for Pen Brooks.
Will Friedle
Seriously, it's like, is this the Smithsonian. What's happening here?
Danielle Fishel
Apparently, this college is an overflow from a museum. Corey is excited. Ho, ho, Shawnee. Of all the plans we've concocted, this is the best one. And we have concocted some doozies. Sean agrees. And Feeny always caught us. But we're in college now. We are older, we're wiser. Corey wonders, you think he's up to the challenge? Sean grins. It's us against him. Living on the edge, babe. Corey gushes, I like it when you call me babe. Sean is ready. All right. So Eric said this guy Curtis stored all the stuff from his last dig here. In the science lab, Corey examines the artifacts. Yeah, he's supposedly got something that's gonna alter the course of the new millennium. Sean asks, are we ready to execute phase one of our master plan? Didn't you guys already have this conversation? Like, are we ready? It feels like we could have cut this little part out.
Will Friedle
This is also a terrible plan. Breaking artifacts. It's like, how is this the planet? This hurt my soul watching.
Guest Speaker
This is where we were miserable. I think, you know, it was just. I don't know. It's.
Danielle Fishel
It is true that for all the mayhem Corey and Shawn cause, they're not usually destructive. No.
Will Friedle
At all.
Guest Speaker
No. And the, the funny parts were always that Shawn was making Corey do it, and Corey was more nervous. Right.
Danielle Fishel
I mean, he's like.
Guest Speaker
So the dynamic of the. Corey. Sean doesn't ever work like this.
Danielle Fishel
Right.
Guest Speaker
Like, think about, think about the B and B episode.
Danielle Fishel
Right?
Guest Speaker
Like, the whole. The dynamic is Sean being like, it's gonna be fine.
Danielle Fishel
Exactly.
Guest Speaker
Cory being panicky.
Danielle Fishel
It's a crime, right?
Will Friedle
Yes.
Guest Speaker
And, and, but also, just between the two of us, the energy, whereas this has this, like, weird, performative, like. I don't know. I, I, it just feels weird. It's.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah, Yeah, I agree. This doesn't. It feels a little out of character. Although the characters. The idea for it is funny. It's just not. Not in character, really.
Will Friedle
I remember this is where all the problems started, was just this set. Everything in this set was that we were just not.
Guest Speaker
And I think looking back, it probably had to do with just all the props, you know, like, all that stuff adds time, makes actors.
Danielle Fishel
Some actors are really good with props. Some actors.
Guest Speaker
And then we had.
Danielle Fishel
Not good.
Guest Speaker
We had a bee that we had to, like, drug. Do you remember this? We had to, like, there was a.
Danielle Fishel
Real B. Yeah, yeah.
Guest Speaker
We had, like, a B wrangler. And, and because, you know, we didn't want to like, put. We had to put a live bee on her. And I forget how we did it, but there's some, like, thing you. You stun a bee and put it on her. And it probably didn't have a stinger. I don't know. It was a lot. There was a lot of stuff going on, and everyone was stressed out.
Will Friedle
And there's, like, nine people in that set.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. I mean, when you think about it.
Will Friedle
The whole damn cast is in that one set. Yeah, it was. I remember just not going well the whole week. I mean, just every time we stepped into that set, it was not a good time.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah. Hearing you talk about it, if I were a director getting that script, I'd be like, oh, my gosh, we have a huge set with a bunch of props, and we've got nine people in it with a live bee. I'd be like, this is a nightmare.
Will Friedle
Well, I remember you and I and Trina were just like. We did our best to just tuck back.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Will Friedle
And we were trying to step. But then they'd have us step up for a line and then step back and then step up for a line and step back. And it was just one of those very awkward. Yeah. Very awkward times.
Danielle Fishel
So Corey's enthused, let's mess this place up. The boys start aimlessly throwing paper in the air and moving things all around. Corey announces, you know, Shawnee, I honestly don't see how anything could be simpler. He agrees, this is child's play. What's this? A brain? Sure enough, he's examining a brain in a big jar. Corey insists that's gotta be his discovery. He discovered the world's first brain. If this gets out, Feeny will never get the dean. Sean's impressed. You could get any woman with the world's first brain. Corey wonders, could I get Topanga? Shawn responds, yeah, I think you could. Could have been lifted.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Could have been lifted also.
Will Friedle
So just to follow the track, the plan is trash the stuff and blame Feeny. So then when the dean comes in, what? Because Eric then throws in, like, he's just made it up. Oh, this was an act of love. So that wasn't part of the original plan. So then what was the plan?
Guest Speaker
I think the original plan is to make it look like Feeny, in a rage of jealousy. Yeah. Attacked his find.
Danielle Fishel
So I do think your part of it was. With the. Was. Was part of it. Even though it.
Will Friedle
And I didn't play it like that at all, because I played it like. I just. Eric just comes up with. But it's an act of love. Like it was. It wasn't like he. I didn't play it like I was in on the.
Guest Speaker
Well, then you screwed it up.
Will Friedle
Oh, I did. As an actor, if that's the plan. You know what this whole episode would have been fault. That's my fault. I apologize. Just me and I didn't hear anything after B wrangler, if I'm honest with you.
Guest Speaker
Let's go back.
Will Friedle
All I want to do is be a B wrangler.
Guest Speaker
All right, let's get Mickey, head back to the set.
Will Friedle
We can do it. Francis, you said Francis is 83 now.
Guest Speaker
He's still working.
Danielle Fishel
He's still doing it. Corey lets out a Homer Simpson style woohoo. And grabs the brain jar. Sean stops him. Whoa, whoa. Hey. That jar's been closed for 5,000 years. Corey is struggling to open it. You know, this must be the world's first jar. How do I get this thing open? Also, this is this joke about the world's first brain. Isn't that funny?
Will Friedle
No, not to keep it going.
Danielle Fishel
And it keeps going.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, I know. And it's all this level of like, are we supposed to be stupid? Because then we're able to like reference all the like.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Actual artifacts and stuff. So it's like, are we doing this ironically? I don't know.
Will Friedle
You're also hitting a jar. Like you're gonna open a screw top jar, which is actually just a pull off thing.
Guest Speaker
I think the point was we know all these things are going to happen and that we're supposed to just be like ironically, pretend like we're having a dialogue to just. We just want to trash the place. So this was supposed to be like if you pace this up and Ben and I played it with a level of like banter, like fast banter. I think it would have worked. But instead we're like kind of really playing it, really saying like as if we think this, it's slow, it's just not working. So I wonder if the dialogue was meant to be like, hand me that. Better bet we're a first time. And instead we're like, wow, that's the old, you know, it's like, it's just too intense, it's too slow. And it's, it's a, it's an energy thing.
Danielle Fishel
We should.
Guest Speaker
This should have all been like breezy ridiculousness.
Danielle Fishel
Yes, you're right. You're right. If you guys are, if you guys are ironically having a conversation about this brain. Yes, it's, it's funny 10 times faster.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, if it was just like bam bam bam. You don't even have time to process it.
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Will Friedle
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Danielle Fishel
So Corey is struggling to open it. You know, how do I get this thing open? Sean has an idea. Hand Me, the rare Phoenician mallet. Corey picks up a nearby object and Sean explains. No, no, no, no. That's an Egyptian dental tool. He points to a different object and hits the jar with it. The tool snaps in half and Sean size Phoenician piece of crap. So we've had a dam and a crap in one episode.
Will Friedle
We're also breaking artifacts.
Danielle Fishel
Sean isn't bothered. I'll replace it. I see them all the time at Bed Bath in Phoenician.
Will Friedle
Good joke.
Danielle Fishel
It's a funny joke. Here, hand me the Byzantine statue of King Haferatu. Corey hands him the gold piece and Sean hits it on. Hits it on the jar as hard as he can. On impact, it shatters into hundreds of pieces. Sean moves along Home shopping channel. There's 6 billion of them left now amongst the mess. Shawn easily pops the lid off the brain jar and Corey reaches in to grab it. It. We get some ews from the audience as the slime drips off the prop. Wow. The human brain. Corey says, the thing that separates us from the animals. Sean agrees, because they would have an animal brain. Corey nods in agreement.
Guest Speaker
I hold in my mind so out of character that Corey just, like, is cool with reaching in and grabbing a brain.
Danielle Fishel
I know.
Guest Speaker
I don't.
Danielle Fishel
It's. Yeah.
Guest Speaker
I mean, first of all, that's just a weird thing to do. I don't think any person would just grab a. Okay.
Danielle Fishel
No, no. Why would you? There's no reason. You broke it open, put it on the floor, tip it on its side. You don't need to take the brain out. Corey nods in agreement. I hold in my hands the pinnacle of God's creation. Think fast. He chucks the brain at Sean's chest and it falls to the ground. We see it split in half. Sean asks, you want personality or motor skills?
Will Friedle
Good joke.
Guest Speaker
Pretty good joke.
Danielle Fishel
Very, very funny joke.
Guest Speaker
I think that's. Yeah, that's what they wanted to get to. Cause that's a damn good joke.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah, but to your idea or to your note earlier where you were like, we know all of this is gonna happen. Why then do you act? Why is it bad or shocking or surprising when it splits in half?
Guest Speaker
Right?
Danielle Fishel
Like.
Guest Speaker
Like, oh, now we've.
Danielle Fishel
Now we've really done some damage to it. Like, as if just opening it on its own wasn't bad enough. I don't know. It just. In this moment, it felt like, oops, we may have gone too far. And I'm.
Guest Speaker
But why?
Danielle Fishel
But why? Why is this too far? Far. Anyway, we're In Feeny's classroom, Feeny is teaching his students about energy, when Eric, who's in the back of the classroom, slams his hand on his desk and shouts, feeny, stop hiding behind your books. Feeny ignores Eric and continues his explanation on quantum physics. But Eric can see right past the facade. Oh, Feeny, you're in pain. Feeny, snaps Eric, you're not even in this class. Nevertheless, Eric wages on, but someone who is perfectly fine does not let some world famous super duper explorer guy who's five times the man you'll ever be swoop in and take your booty. Feeny angrily shouts, she is not my booty.
Will Friedle
And then he's like, coming. He's like coming. The audience like the. The. His classroom down like, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Such a great beat.
Danielle Fishel
He is embarrassed by his outburst, but tells Eric, and if she was my booty, I would prefer not to talk about my booty in front of the entire class.
Guest Speaker
Class.
Danielle Fishel
Eric breaks it to him. Look, come on, Feeny. Everybody knows. Feeny insists, no one knows. I have behaved in a manner befitting a man of my situation. Eric decides to ask the class himself. Okay, who here knows who Feenie loves? The whole class yells in unison. The dean.
Will Friedle
The dean.
Guest Speaker
More than five. So they don't have to get paid.
Danielle Fishel
Yep, don't worry. We would never pay all those people. Feeny points to the door. All right, everybody out Now. Alone, Eric tries to assure him. We're just rooting for you, Mr. Feeny. Why won't you make your move? Feeny explains Eric, in a world that is not run by savages, there is such a thing as decorum. Now, decorum would suggest that a gentleman allow a lady to resolve an old relationship before he endangers her in a new one. Eric argues, yes, but see, you're already in a new relationship. You're in a triangle. Feeny. Eric makes a triangle with his fingers. Do you make a square?
Will Friedle
Make a square? Yeah. Do you make a square that's become a meme so that you're in a triangle? And then the.
Danielle Fishel
The.
Will Friedle
Rachel yell those. Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Eric makes a square with his fingers and takes. And take it from somebody who's been in a triangle before. He who hesitates is lost. Eric realizes his pain and screams, rachel.
Guest Speaker
Rachel.
Danielle Fishel
Feeny's concerned, but Eric insists. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm fine. I'm just like you. This terrifies Feeny. Oh, dear. I don't want to be like you. And Eric starts sobbing. And then we're back in the science lab, Sean is still holding the split brain. Corey, you had a perfectly good world's first brain, and now look at it. Corey says he's sorry. Shawn hands him. See, this is like this part. What? So, yeah, Sean hands him the brain and asks for help. Well, here, just, like, smush it back together and put it back in the jar. Corey nods and casually throws the brain back in the jar. You know what? I better hide this. Because then, on cue, he drops the glass jar onto another glass jar, and it is a shattered mess. Yes, this is the same kind of broken jars.
Will Friedle
A lot of broken jars. And it's the same kind of problem we had in the Godfather scene, where it's like. It's funny dialogue and funny stuff happening. That's just. It's way too long. Yeah, they keep cutting back. They're still in the thing and still with the brain. After the Phoenix, it's like, okay, we're still on this.
Danielle Fishel
When. If you were really pulling a caper, you'd be in and out as fast as you could possibly be. You do what you needed to do, and you'd get out of it. And, you know, thinking back to, like, you and you, writer saying that you feel like you weren't committed to it. These questions we're asking. Because even though it's. Maybe it's funny when you're the actor in it and you're just looking for. I need threads of reality to hold on to. I can circle around them with. With hilarity, but I need to know what the thread of reality is. Is this the plan? Like, what's the plan with the. Are we gonna. Are we. Is our plan to break the brain?
Guest Speaker
I got the fix. This is the fix. Topanga and Angela are there trying to stop.
Danielle Fishel
Ah.
Guest Speaker
They're like, this is too far. This is too much. What are you guys doing? And we're lecturing them on how to be good, you know, schemers. And we're breaking everything so you're able to have the tension. You guys are like, don't know. Put that down. That could be the first human brain. Could it? Oh, and, like, we're being the kooky ones, while you guys are. The threat of reality being like, this is a stupid plan. This is a bad plan. And then you have something to do. And then in the reveal scene, you could be saying, oh, that actually worked. You know, there's a turn for your characters. Like, I can't believe it worked. Instead, this is all just, like, inevitable. Yeah, I should have.
Will Friedle
I would have even Taken that idea and gone even farther where I would have had the entire episode. The two people that are trying to get them together and scheming but bad at it are Angela and Pan. And it's. And it's Sean and Corey. Like, ah, they're never gonna be able to do this by themselves. Like it's that and them having like the. The caper or trying to pull off a caper and just being bad at it.
Guest Speaker
Yeah.
Will Friedle
Is actually really funny. And then it's the boys kind of showing them how to do it.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
But the girls just want to dance.
Danielle Fishel
So that's just what we gotta do. To writer's point though, if it had been that we were. That maybe we were saying like, you cannot do this. You're like, we never do anything. We don't. We're not gonna ruin anything that bad. We just got. And then it's an accident.
Guest Speaker
Maybe you're right. And then it's like, no, no, we can fix this crash.
Danielle Fishel
Exactly, exactly.
Will Friedle
Something like that would work. Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
There's a couple little fixes that could have happened, but it seemed like they're.
Will Friedle
Literally just going in and trashing all this really priceless stuff.
Danielle Fishel
Yes. And then for whatever reason, the brain separating is one step too far amongst the plan of already breaking stuff.
Guest Speaker
So that there's a change in the whole scene. It's two scenes and all that happens is we walk in, in, break something to release a bee and open a window. Those are the only actual changes.
Danielle Fishel
Right.
Guest Speaker
Everything else is non change. And it takes up like two fantasies. Exactly. Yeah. It's like that's the problem. And so if they had, you know, so they're trying to create tension because they came up with some good jokes. You know, the fiction, this, the brain thing. They are good motor skills. And they just got hooked on those jokes. And they were like, well, how do I make this work?
Will Friedle
Yeah, yeah, right.
Danielle Fishel
Corey's eyes widen. Oh. Shawn walks over. Oh, he broke another jar. Wonder what was in that one. Suddenly we hear a loud buzz. Shaun admits, whoa, that is one angry bee. Corey fights on. Forget the bee. Onto phase two. He points at the window. Sean smirks. Yeah, how about we open a window for some air? Corey tries to stop him. Wait a minute. Shaun won't opening a window set off an alarm. And just as Shaun opens the window, an alarm goes off. Shawn sarcastically comments, almost like this was part of their plan. Oh man, we never learn anything, do we? Corey responds, unbothered, no. And now the teacher from next door is going to hear that. Alarm, Shawn continues. And he's going to come in here all mad. Corey adds, like they've seen it hundreds of times before and know how this will end. And I wonder who that teacher's going to be. On cue, Feeny comes running through the door. Both Corey and Sean continue to go through the robotic motions. Oh no, it's Feeny. The professor is concerned. What's going on in here? Corey says, nothing, and Shaun unconvincingly states, we didn't break this stuff. Feeny asks, well, who did? And Corey shouts, you did. And both boys run out of the room and lock the door. Feeny yells and pounds on the door, but the boys are gone. And then we're back in the apartment. Rachel is in a tight black dress, spinning around the living room.
Will Friedle
Dance night.
Danielle Fishel
Dance night. Can't wait to go out. Come on out, Jack. I want to see how good you look. Jack awkwardly appears and gives a little wave. How you doing? Rachel gives him a confused look. Okay, something's different. Jack waves it off. Yeah, and we're going out. Let's go. But Rachel stops him. Oh, wait a second. You're tall. Jack shrugs it off. Yeah, so are you. Let's go. Jack starts walking toward the door, but Rachel pulls him back. No, I mean, I'm looking straight ahead and suddenly you're in my field of vision. What did you do? Jack reveals. I'm standing up straight. You know me. I'm a schlump. I'm a real downlooker. Well, let's go. He tries to run for the door, but Rachel stops him. Again, she notices something. What's on your feet? Jack calmly responds, my dancing shoes. We pull out to show Jack. They look like Herman Munster. They're huge.
Guest Speaker
Frankenstein?
Will Friedle
Absolutely. The only thing missing are the bolts in his neck. Yeah, it's crazy.
Danielle Fishel
We pull out to show that Jack is wearing shoes with a 6 inch lift. Rachel rolls her eyes. Ugh, I can't believe this. You bought elevator shoes? Jack quickly responds, they're not elevator shoes. The guy never called them elevator shoes. Rachel asks, oh, what did he call them? Jack answers, manly step ups.
Will Friedle
Good line.
Danielle Fishel
Rachel realizes what's going on here. That's why you didn't want to go out with me. Because you're too embarrassed to be seen with me because I'm so tall. Jack tries to act oblivious. What are you talking about? Rachel explains, my whole life I've been the tall one. The bean pole. Hey, Stilts, how's the weather up there? But Jack insists, you're crazy. You know Why? I didn't want to go out with you because I thought they'd say, hey, look at the model with that shrimp. Rachel doesn't get it. What are you talking about? You've never been worried about this before when we've been out. He sighs. Yeah, but we've only ever been out as friends. I never really thought about this until we got together. You know what? To be honest, I never thought you'd be interested in me. Rachel reveals, Well, I am interested in you, Jack. She looks down at his shoes, but not in those. Jack sits down to take them off. You know what? I would love to go dancing. Her eyes light up. Really? You mean in front of everybody? Jack nods. Yes, in front of the whole world. Alright, let's dance. He takes Rachel's hand and they walk right out the door and into the elevator where an old lady is waiting. As they walk in, she screams, she's too tall for you. Jack stares at the woman, embarrassed as the elevator doors close.
Will Friedle
And that when they were standing next to each other in the elevator, she looks like she's three feet taller than he is. So they had to have leaning back, I think, and put her in something. And I mean they're, they're definitely trying to play it up because they're he's not 57 there and she's not 510 there, right? There's just no way.
Danielle Fishel
No way.
Will Friedle
So. Yeah, yeah.
Danielle Fishel
So funny. Well, we're back in the science storage lab. Feeny is holding the brain in his hand for a third time.
Will Friedle
Third time Back in the lab. Let's get back in the lab, people.
Danielle Fishel
Back in the lab. Feeny is holding the brain in his hand, trying to wipe it clean just as Dean Bolender walks into the room. She's followed by Sean and Corey and then Topanga and Angela are there as well. Dean Bolender yells, George. And Mr. Feeny insists he didn't do this. The Dean admits, I didn't believe them when they told me, but it's hard to argue with something that's right in front of your face. Face. Corey adds, yeah, we're just as shocked as you are. Dean Feeny begins to panic. Now look, this is insane. Shawn yells at him to put the brain down. Dean Bolender asks, what in heaven's name were you thinking when you did this? Feeny insists, I didn't do it. They did. And he points to Sean and Corey. The boys gasp. Corey is shocked.
Guest Speaker
We do our hand thing.
Danielle Fishel
Mr. Feeney. We are insulted. Sean and I have been upstairs selling Muffins for the underprivileged. Feeny says, that's not true. The boys were down here with him. He points at Topanga. You wouldn't lie for him. Where was he? Topanga recites, he's been selling muffins all day. Angela robotically joins in. So was Shawn. Shawn is proud. We're legitimate. Now Dean Bolender asks, why did you do this, George? Eric, who we learn is also in the room and must have snuck in with the girls, just appear as if from nowhere.
Will Friedle
It's like when Shin gave us that card and all of a sudden I was holding a queen. Just there's Eric, as if from nowhere. Yep.
Danielle Fishel
You know something, Dean? This was simply just an act of love culminating in an act of vandalism. It actually happens all the time. Dean Bolender wants to know, an act of love? Was this an act of love? George Feeny looks around and sees Shawn and Corey nodding their heads. He reluctantly admits, yeah, and then nods his head with more confidence. Yep. I wonder if Stewart had just said it was an act of love, if Dean Bolender would have been like.
Will Friedle
Exactly. Yeah. You never know.
Danielle Fishel
I mean, this idea that the dean of the school.
Will Friedle
You went in and destroyed all these priceless artifacts for me, ruined a man's career and destroyed his invention for the next millennium.
Danielle Fishel
So hot.
Will Friedle
It makes no sense.
Danielle Fishel
Hot. I like it.
Will Friedle
Is that how Jensen got you? Did he just go trash?
Danielle Fishel
He got arrested for felonies, vandalism.
Guest Speaker
But I mean, it is in the Corey Stewart storyline. That is Corey's argument, right? Like, I hit him out of an act of love, right?
Danielle Fishel
I had to protect my property. Him.
Will Friedle
But that makes sense. That.
Guest Speaker
That at least makes sense.
Will Friedle
Some guys, you know, being inappropriate with their woman, punching that guy in the face. That makes sense. This makes no sense whatsoever.
Danielle Fishel
And then Curtis walks into the room. All right, nobody move. Where's my bee? The dean asks, be. What Be? And Curtis reveals my B. It's my discovery.
Guest Speaker
Corey knows the dean of the school and doesn't know what his discovery.
Will Friedle
What?
Danielle Fishel
What? You mean you're Be.
Guest Speaker
What's B?
Will Friedle
B?
Guest Speaker
You come here to lecture your great discovery?
Danielle Fishel
Why didn't you say B?
Guest Speaker
Be?
Danielle Fishel
Why didn't he say what be? Like Corey and Sean be anybody. What be?
Guest Speaker
Oh, yeah, there you go.
Danielle Fishel
Corey knows what happened and says to Sean, oh. Curtis feverishly searches the room. It's an African killer bee. I've been searching for it for years. Sean laughs. Curtis, you've been out of town a little too long. Those African killer Bees are swarming all over the country. They're doing Philly next Tuesday. Curtis explains this bee has a reverse by migration pattern. We mate that species with the killer bees that are already here. They start migrating back to where they originated from, saving thousands of lives. I could be rich. Then again, we hear the sound of a bee buzzing. Everyone freaks out. And Eric yells, everybody, relax. I'll kill it. And reaches for what's left.
Guest Speaker
It's so funny that they throw in the I could be rich.
Danielle Fishel
I know. Because you want him to be a bad guy.
Guest Speaker
Exactly. It's like, because he's just brought back.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah. Also, if he's motivated by saving lives.
Will Friedle
What does he do for a living?
Guest Speaker
He's an archaeologist.
Danielle Fishel
Archaeologist.
Guest Speaker
So that hunts bees. I know.
Will Friedle
That's. That's what he's after.
Danielle Fishel
He's after a bee with a migration adventure hunter. He says he's. He's. What's the guy who. They do all the movies.
Will Friedle
Indiana Jones.
Danielle Fishel
Thank you.
Guest Speaker
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Danielle Fishel
Montana, whatever that guy name.
Guest Speaker
Scared of spiders. He throws a rope around.
Danielle Fishel
I'm scared of spiders.
Will Friedle
Scared of spiders.
Guest Speaker
Yep.
Will Friedle
Yep.
Guest Speaker
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Danielle Fishel
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Danielle Fishel
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Danielle Fishel
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Will Friedle
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Guest Speaker
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Will Friedle
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Danielle Fishel
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Guest Speaker
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Will Friedle
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Danielle Fishel
Summer is right around the corner and you know what that means.
Guest Speaker
Barbecues.
Will Friedle
Sunny days by the pool with my shirt on.
Danielle Fishel
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Danielle Fishel
Curtis jumps up and takes the small piece out of Eric's hands. No, don't touch that bee. Dean Bolender sadly recognizes the shattered artifact. Oh, Curtis, no. The statue of King Haferatu you gave me for our anniversary. It's broken. Curtis is intense.
Guest Speaker
Why is it in this closet then?
Will Friedle
Why is it also hollow? And why is he giving. He's giving her ancient artifacts.
Ryder Strong
Ancient artifacts?
Danielle Fishel
Yes.
Guest Speaker
She doesn't keep it at Grass House. No, none of this makes it in the closet at the school sense.
Will Friedle
In the science lab archaeology room at Penbrook University.
Danielle Fishel
And then, because we needed to further show he's a bad guy. The hell with the statue. This stuff is nothing but junk compared to that bee. Dean Bolender gasps. This is junk. And right at that moment, the bee lands on the Dean's neck back. Curtis whispers, shh. Don't move the bees on you. Dean Bolender reminds him. Oh, Curtis, you know I'm allergic to bees. Curtis couldn't care less. So you puff up for a little while. This is my Nobel Prize. Feeny slams his towel on the table and yells, I don't think so, Curtis. He heroically grabs the bee, which was.
Guest Speaker
A real bee for the close up. Close up. It was. Yeah, a real bee.
Will Friedle
I have a. I have a. I have a quick science question. Don't bees die once they sting you?
Danielle Fishel
Yeah.
Guest Speaker
Yeah. Well, that's what happens, right?
Danielle Fishel
But I know he's.
Will Friedle
But he says, so you'll puff up for a while. So it's like he doesn't want the bee to sting her because then the bee's gonna die.
Danielle Fishel
That's what I thought I was like, he should be doing everything to be.
Will Friedle
Like, to make sure that take care of this bee. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Guest Speaker
They needed him to be a villain. A villain in direct relation to her so he could see his true color. He doesn't actually want her back.
Danielle Fishel
He doesn't really care about her.
Will Friedle
Do you think you just, when you have to mate bees, you just put on, like, put them in a little room together and then put on like, some Marvin Gaye and you just see what happens?
Guest Speaker
I've been really trying, baby.
Danielle Fishel
Like that.
Will Friedle
Yeah, exactly.
Danielle Fishel
Never, never thought about seduction of bees.
Guest Speaker
They butt waggle to communicate to one another.
Danielle Fishel
Aw.
Will Friedle
Do they really?
Guest Speaker
That's what I mean. A bee, a bee can waggle its butt and other bees will know how far the source of pollen is and which direction it is, just by the way they waggle their butts. It's a whole, like. Yeah. Really cool.
Will Friedle
Interesting. I have a pact with the bees in my house. I signed a treaty with the bees. So if the bees. This is years ago. Susan knows about it. She's also kept them. No, no, no. This is outside. With the number of bees, if any of them go in the pool and are dying, we have to save them. And then the pact is then they don't sting any of us. So nobody gets stung around the house and we save the bees. It's been a pact that's been. We're 25 years into this pact right now. So it's been holding well, it's been holding strong.
Danielle Fishel
Nobody's been stung at your house.
Will Friedle
Nobody's been stung. We save bees every day, so we've got. It's a very symbiotic relationship, but it's.
Danielle Fishel
I like that. I try to save.
Guest Speaker
I've not had children running around your house. Cause that's when people get stung.
Will Friedle
Oh, really?
Guest Speaker
Oh, yeah. It's always the kids who are like, there's a bee. That's not gonna calm the bee down. That's how you get stunned.
Danielle Fishel
Adler. It was like splashing the bee. I'm like, you're just making the bee angry. Just let the bee.
Will Friedle
Are you afraid of bees, too? Or is it just spiders?
Danielle Fishel
No, no, just spiders.
Will Friedle
So a bee that can actually sting you, that doesn't bother you at all?
Danielle Fishel
Nope. All right.
Will Friedle
It's flying with a little hypodermic needle. And that doesn't freak you out. But despite a tiny spider in front of you. And you'll grip my arm until there's blood that appears.
Danielle Fishel
Where were we recently when that happened again?
Will Friedle
In a car somewhere. Oh no. We were at Uber to the airport and you grabbed onto me like we were about to be in a horrible.
Danielle Fishel
Spider dropping down from the roof.
Will Friedle
The smallest little spider you've ever seen.
Danielle Fishel
That'S the size of a piece of dust. And I said, why does this always happen to me?
Will Friedle
Freaking out. Freaking out.
Danielle Fishel
He winces, Ow. Oh, the bee stings, Mr. Feney. He winces, Owie. Then he hands the bee to Curtis. I think this belongs to you. I'll return the stinger as soon as it works its way out of my flesh. Curtis pleads with the insect, no, no, no, no. Don't die, don't die. Quick, quick. Where's the zoology department? All the students point in different directions and Curtis runs out with the ailing bee in his hands. Eric exclaims, ha. That guy's a dope man. Dean Bolender grabs Feeny's hands in hers. George, that's the most wonderful thing anyone's ever done for me. Feeny promises, I wouldn't let anything harm you, Lila. I hope you know I hope you feel the same way about me. She asks asks, what took you so long? Eric from the side advises his teacher, kiss her, Feeny. Feeny says, all right, and grabs Dean Bolender and kisses her. All the students and the audience members start clapping and cheering. Woo. Corey explains to Sean, now, this is a beautiful moment. Shawn adds, what's even more beautiful, it's the first time we've ever gotten away with anything in our lives. They give each other five and we optical flip, flip, flop.
Will Friedle
Yep, definitely.
Danielle Fishel
We're back in the student union. Sean and Corey are in orange jumpsuits, scrubbing the windows. Corey says, we've washed 734 windows so far. And Sean asks, how did this blow up in our face? Corey says he doesn't know we had Feeny scammed. Sean admits, yeah, Feeny was nothing, but his chick is tough. Dean Bolender and Feeny are sitting at a nearby cafe table. The Dean reaches for Feeny's hand and he winces. Dean Bolender asks, oh, does it still hurt? Feeny says, a little. She asks, you want me too? Feeny cuts her off, oh, please. Then Dean Bolender kisses his hand and smiles. Feeny admits, all better. He tells her he wants to thank her again for going easy on the boys. And Dean Bolender responds, oh, George, one of the reasons I was attracted to you was because I've never seen a teacher whose students were willing to go to such lengths to see him. Happy? Happy? Feeny asks. You never actually thought I was the perpetrator? Dean Bolender assures him. Oh, I have no doubt that you're capable of acting with reckless abandon. Feeny smiles. Oh, I am. I am. Eric, also in an orange jumpsuit, interrupts their date and sits down next to them. This is great, isn't it? I mean, you love him. He loves you. I love you both. We're a triangle. Now, Dean, there's something you should know. Feeny and I like to hang out quite a bit. Bit. So if I'm ever around and you guys are getting frisky. Feeny gets up and grabs Eric chair. Eric's chair while he rambles on. Or whatever it is that you guys do. I'm going to need some kind of a signal to know that it's my time. This will work. He admits as Feeny pulls him out of his chair and drags him away. And then.
Will Friedle
Did the girls get in trouble us? They did as much as Eric did.
Guest Speaker
They didn't initiate the plan? Well, no.
Danielle Fishel
I don't know.
Will Friedle
I mean, Eric's standing with the two of them over there. He didn't break anything or he wasn't in the room.
Guest Speaker
They were dancing.
Will Friedle
Ah, correct.
Danielle Fishel
We went dancing. Also, the worst thing we did was lie. Was lie for them.
Will Friedle
But that's this the same worst thing that Eric did.
Danielle Fishel
No, Eric. Eric.
Guest Speaker
Also thousands and thousands of lives from the well.
Will Friedle
Yeah. There's problem African killer be problem. Thank you for that.
Guest Speaker
Gonna solve.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Well, we're back in the apartment. The elevator door opens and it's Jack and Rachel returning from their date. Jack admits. I don't know what I was thinking. We are perfect for each other. Another old lady neighbor watches as they walk to their apartment. Rachel greets her. Hi, Mrs. Berthelson. Then the lady burts out. She's too tall for you. As she enters the elevator, Jack tries to run after her, but Rachel stops him. Jack, you said you were gonna. You said you weren't gonna let this bother you. Okay? Jack dusts himself off and agrees. It's no problem. I'm okay. Then Jack yells at the closed elevator. I hope the cable breaks. Mrs. Bertleson. Rachel, that was really funny.
Will Friedle
In this he didn't have a lot to do, but he's. He's really funny. He's also one of those guys who. His. His physical comedy he does comes from an awkward place. When he does his physical comedy, like I think he does it on purpose. And it works.
Danielle Fishel
It's so funny.
Will Friedle
Absolutely works for Him. He's really good at it.
Danielle Fishel
Rachel ushers him back inside the apartment. Jack, why don't we go inside and make a snuggly? Jack agrees. Yeah, I'm not too sure for that. Rachel smirks. I know. When they open the apartment door, they see someone wearing a ski mask stealing their boombox. Jack grabs a bat. Hey. Come any closer and I'll club ya. Jack lifts up the perpetrator's ski mask.
Guest Speaker
Like you do.
Danielle Fishel
Like you do, of course. And it's another short old lady. Who is this landlord?
Will Friedle
It's just hot chicks and old women. Welcome to our building.
Guest Speaker
This is a. Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
And. And some college kids.
Will Friedle
And some college kids. That's all we have. There's this apartment is for the 37 beautiful women. And then every other apartment is just old ladies. That's what it is.
Danielle Fishel
Well, the old lady burglar predictably says she's too tall for you and walks out with the electronics. Rachel pats Jack on the head while he just stands there in shock.
Guest Speaker
There's your program.
Danielle Fishel
There's your program.
Guest Speaker
Could have done without the. Without the tag, I think.
Will Friedle
But that's the part you could have done with. Is just without the tag, I think. Such a good episode.
Guest Speaker
I started this. This recap much more positive than I mentioned because somehow in the course of listening to DB I'll recap everything I hate in all of it.
Danielle Fishel
So I did not like it as much in the recap as I did watching it either.
Guest Speaker
Yeah, I feel like, what's the version of jump breaking shark that involves a bee and a burglar old lady. We stung the burglar old lady. It's like one with a lot of.
Danielle Fishel
Like, don't ask any questions at all.
Guest Speaker
But, you know, I did enjoy it watching it last night. So.
Will Friedle
You know, one of the reasons why, though, and it's. It's true, is because these last couple episodes have been so dramatic and heavy. I know that the guys just holding a broken brain. Great. Like let's throw a pie.
Guest Speaker
I also just think the performances, you know, are actually fun. Like it's.
Danielle Fishel
It's all great.
Guest Speaker
Like everybody's. Yes, it's. Except for me and Ben in that scene. I feel like it's breezy, it's fun, and everybody keeps it moving so you don't really notice. Like, you don't actually stop to think, why are the bees. Why the thing. Yeah, okay.
Will Friedle
Yeah. When you break it down, actually beat by beat, it's. It's not as fun as just sitting there kind of letting it wash over you. Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Right.
Will Friedle
Yeah.
Danielle Fishel
Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram Pod Meets World show. You can send us your emails. Pod meets worldshowmail.com. and we've got merch.
Will Friedle
Here we come. Buying us some merch. I don't have any more lyrics, but it's supposed to be like the monkeys.
Guest Speaker
I didn't get the reference here.
Will Friedle
No. Here we come walking down the street. It's the theme song of the monkey. Monkeys. No. Have you ever seen the monkeys?
Guest Speaker
No.
Danielle Fishel
Do you think writers ever seen the monkeys? Have you ever met this guy who didn't. This guy who didn't even have a TV growing up?
Will Friedle
It's good. The Monkees is a great show because it does not take itself seriously. It's ridiculous. It's campy. It's the 60s and the 70s.
Danielle Fishel
My mom had a huge crush on Peter Torque. Cause she was the baby of a family. And then he was my father on the show and my mom was like, Peter Tork. I need to get a picture with Peter Tork. And my mom didn't get a picture with anybody.
Will Friedle
You know, I gotta be honest, when you think about it, the way your dad looked, especially back in the day during boy kind of Peter Torkish.
Danielle Fishel
Oh, yeah. Long floppy blonde hair.
Will Friedle
A little torquey. A little torquey. Your mom has a tight. Your mom has a torque. This is what your mom does.
Danielle Fishel
My dad as a teenager looked very much like a young Matt Damon.
Will Friedle
Oh, okay.
Danielle Fishel
Yeah, Cool. Interesting. Anyway, Will send us out.
Will Friedle
We love you all. Pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fishel, Will Friedle and Ryder Strong, executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor Tara Sudbaksh, producer Matty Moore, engineer, and Boy Meets World superfan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon, and you can follow us on Instagram at Podmeats World show or email us@podmeatsworldshowmail.com hey, parents, quick question.
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Pod Meets World: Episode 619 “Bee True” Summary
Podcast Information:
Episode Details:
In Episode 619 titled “Bee True,” originally aired on April 9, 1999, “Boy Meets World” delves into Mr. Feeney’s attempt to express his feelings for Dean Bolender. As Mr. Feeney gathers the courage to ask her out, his ex, Curtis Kincaid, unexpectedly arrives, complicating the situation. To keep Feeney’s hopes alive, Eric convinces Corey and Shawn to channel their old "bad boy" personas, leading to a series of comedic and heartfelt moments.
Notable Quote:
This episode was uniquely directed by Mickey Dolenz, the drummer and lead singer of the legendary band, The Monkees. Dolenz's involvement brought a distinctive flair to the episode, although it was his only directorial effort for the series.
Notable Quote:
Danielle Fishel, Will Friedle, and Ryder Strong discuss the challenging production week for “Bee True.” The episode featured numerous set pieces, including a live bee, which added to the complexity. Additionally, the introduction of a first-time director under a strained on-set atmosphere contributed to the hosts' mixed feelings about the episode.
Notable Quotes:
The hosts provide a detailed critique of the episode’s plot and character interactions. They highlight the awkwardness of certain scenes, such as the prolonged "Godfather-esque" conversation between Corey, Sean, and Eric, which felt out of character and overly extended. Danielle and Will express their disappointment in how the comedic elements were handled, particularly regarding the introduction of Curtis Kincaid and the subplot involving the African killer bee.
Notable Quotes:
Despite their criticisms, the hosts acknowledge the episode's humorous moments. They reminisce about specific jokes and scenes that, when viewed without the remembered on-set tension, are genuinely funny. For instance, the revelation that Curtis is an archaeologist bringing an African killer bee to Penbrooke adds a quirky twist to the storyline.
Notable Quotes:
A significant focus of the episode is the evolving relationship between Mr. Feeney and Dean Bolender. Their interactions are portrayed with a blend of humor and sincerity, culminating in a heartfelt moment where Feeney musters the courage to kiss Dean. The episode also touches on Jack and Rachel’s budding romance, adding another layer of relationship dynamics.
Notable Quotes:
Danielle, Will, and Ryder conclude their discussion by reflecting on the episode’s strengths and shortcomings. They commend the genuine performances of the cast despite the behind-the-scenes issues but lament the lost potential due to the episode's overcomplicated plot and forced humor. The hosts appreciate the effort to blend comedy with heartfelt moments, even if it didn’t fully resonate as intended.
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Directorial Influence: Mickey Dolenz’s unique approach brought both creativity and challenges to the episode, highlighting the impact a director can have on a show's dynamic.
Production Dynamics: Tensions and multiple set pieces can significantly affect the performance and coherence of an episode, as evidenced in “Bee True.”
Character Consistency: Maintaining character traits and dynamics is crucial for comedic effectiveness. Deviations can lead to awkwardness and diminished audience engagement.
Humor Execution: Balancing humor with plot progression is essential. Overextension of jokes or forced comedic elements can detract from the overall quality.
This detailed summary encapsulates the main discussions, critiques, and insights shared by the hosts in Pod Meets World’s review of the “Bee True” episode. It provides an in-depth look into the episode’s content, production challenges, and the hosts’ perspectives, making it valuable for both dedicated fans and newcomers alike.