TGI – Episode 704 “No Such Thing as a Sure Thing”

Summary

Pod Meets World – TGI: Episode 704 “No Such Thing as a Sure Thing”

Podcast: Pod Meets World
Hosts: Danielle Fishel, Rider Strong, Will Friedle
Date: January 29, 2026
Episode Rewatched: Boy Meets World Season 7, Episode 4 (original air date: October 15, 1999)

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Overview: Revisiting a Season 7 Stumble

In this episode, Danielle, Rider, and Will revisit "No Such Thing as a Sure Thing," a Season 7 episode of Boy Meets World. As the trio rewatch every episode of the series, they share behind-the-scenes stories, critical reflections, and plenty of comedic banter. This time, however, they're unusually united in their dismissal of the episode, calling it “one of the worst”* in the show’s run. The conversation moves from a heartfelt tribute to Rob Reiner, through a detailed critique of the episode’s recycled plots and problematic jokes, to a shared sense of exhaustion with “Cory and Topanga” drama. Along the way, they dig into issues of consent, sitcom logic, and how sitcoms age (or don’t).

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Tribute to Rob Reiner: Film Lovers Get Emotional

[03:02–08:58]

• Rider recalls a holiday Rob Reiner film festival with his family, highlighting the profound effect Reiner’s films (like Spinal Tap, Misery, Stand by Me, and Princess Bride) had on him:

  “Besides Spielberg, I cannot think of a more influential director in my life... He lets the acting and the storytelling take precedence and the camera work and everything secondary. It's like a play.”
  (Rider, 05:26)

• The hosts reflect on what makes Reiner unique—his subtlety, actor-focused direction, and ability to define genre films. Comparisons are drawn to Zemeckis and John Hughes, with Rider noting a “cynical” streak in Hughes that set him apart.

  “Every genre he tried, he made… the quintessential version of that genre… You gave him a movie and he would define the genre.”
  (Will, 07:09)

• Danielle expresses frustration at “When Harry Met Sally” not making the cut in Rider’s film fest, half-joking she went to bed over it.

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Jumping In: First Impressions of the Episode

[14:37–16:17]

• Danielle recaps the basic plot: Topanga decides if Cory is a “sure bet” with her mother’s advice, while Jack gets Eric into trouble with a bookie.

• The hosts immediately voice strong dislikes:

  • Will: “I hate this episode.” (15:11)
  • Rider: “This is a terrible episode.” (15:13)
  • The storyline feels redundant, off-putting, and awkwardly written.

• Observations:

  • Weak, recycled plots (Topanga’s parents intervene again, gambling storyline, Cory/Topanga will-they-won’t-they).
  • Forced comedic gags (Eric in an Italian bike-riding persona).
  • Cringe-inducing moments around consent (i.e. Cory’s aggression toward Topanga and a series of assault “jokes”).

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Episode Recap & Critiques

Cheerleaders, Amish Mascots, and Baffling Bits
[19:33–70:44]

The Cheerleader Plot & Amish Gags

[19:33–23:29]

• The cast is suddenly on the cheerleading squad. Will jokes, “Obviously. That's been a huge part of the program for five years.” (19:36)
• The “Amish” as opposing team mascot is repeatedly mocked. The hosts question if the joke crosses a line (“Is this kind of offensive?” – Ryder, 21:16).

Bizarre Relationship Dynamics

[23:39–26:53]

• Recurring Criticism: Cory is overly aggressive with Topanga, explicitly tries to kiss her despite her resistance, and she ends up apologizing for shoving him off.

  “You won't let me attack, kiss you...and then you dared to knock me off of you...I’m done—it’s like, wait, what?”
  (Will, 24:50)

• Danielle: “It was a disgust I had about the relationship and about the storylines pertaining to the relationship...it’s wrong.” (25:48)

“Wearing Down Withholding Women”

[26:53–27:14]

• The hosts are troubled by the show’s sexual politics:

  “These last two episodes are just about, you know, wearing down, withholding women until they give in. That's the entire arc.”
  (Ryder, 27:02)

  “Convincing them they're wrong and that they should make the decision you want them to make...”
  (Danielle, 27:17)

• The cast laments that both the writing and characters are checked out.

The Gambling B-Story

[29:39–32:31]

• Jack’s gambling addiction is played for laughs but the treatment is superficial.
• Alan, the Matthews’ dad, also apparently has a gambling problem, betting against the Amish, to Amy’s chagrin.
• Confused dinner table scene leads to more eye-rolling from the hosts.

Repetition of Old Storylines / “AI-Filled” Writing

[38:25–39:59]

• Hosts note reused storylines from earlier seasons:

  “It’s like a weird—it’s like an AI generated Boy Meets World episode...just take other episodes and be like, yeah, spit one out.”
  (Ryder, 38:59)

Offensive and Outdated Humor

[70:23–70:43]

• Tag scene features Eric and Jack disguised as Amish, with yet another joke about Eric “groping” women during butter-churning.

  “Hey, we got 35 seconds left. Let's get another sexual assault joke in there.”
  (Will, 69:35)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the episode’s quality:

  “I know we haven’t watched the other episodes in quite a while, but I bet you if we had a list of the top 10 worst episodes of this series, this would be on my list.”
  (Will, 71:22)

• On out-of-touch sitcom logic:

  “We've got multiple scenes left where you guys are still making out...It's been four hours and those two have are still making out…just gross.”
  (Danielle, 45:14 / Will, 45:22)

• On direction and blocking:

  “I love Jeff McCracken, but I did not like the blocking...I so much would have preferred two people sitting in one location having a conversation than Topanga just aimlessly bouncing back and forth.”
  (Danielle, 61:41)

• On 90s sexual politics:

  “These last two episodes are just about, you know, wearing down, withholding women until they give in.”
  (Ryder, 27:00)

  “That's all it is.” (Danielle, 27:01)

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Deep Dive: Relationships on Autopilot

[47:19–68:47]

• The hosts are exasperated with how Cory and Topanga’s relationship is written, with emotional manipulation, lack of communication, and retrograde gender roles:

  “Corey doesn't hear anything she's saying, ever.”
  (Will, 67:04)

  “That's remarkably like—it waits until the moment that Corey is ready to just—when in his final moment of giving up…the last possible second Topanga changes it.”
  (Danielle, 67:07)

• Both Topanga’s mother and father return, but their impact is muddled and the logic of the script around divorce, love, and parental advice is found deeply confusing.

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Timestamps for Key Sections

• Rob Reiner Tribute & Film Influences: 03:02–08:58
• Hosts' Initial Reactions to Episode: 14:37–16:18
• Breakdown/Recap Begins: 19:33
• Amish Mascot Bits: 20:52, 21:16
• Cory’s Aggression & Relationship Critiques: 24:03–27:22
• Gambling B-Plot: 29:39–32:31, 41:41–44:38
• Recycled Storyline Discussion: 38:25–39:59
• Sexual Assault Jokes / Final Chase: 69:23–70:43
• Final Verdict (Top 10 Worst Episode): 71:22

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Final Assessment & Tone

This recap episode is marked by the hosts’ rare unanimity that “No Such Thing as a Sure Thing” is a “bad” and even “unwatchable” example of late-stage Boy Meets World. They don’t spare the writing, logic gaps, or dated jokes, and instead use their critique to highlight bigger issues about how sitcoms are written and how depictions of relationships have—often problematically—aged.

“This for me...is the first one of the season I find unwatchable.”
(Danielle, 71:11)

“100%... this would be on my list.”
(Will, 71:22)

As ever, their candor, humor, and friendship make the podcast engaging even amid the episode’s “suckiness.” Will still manages to clamor for Pengi the Penguin merch at the end (71:44), and the trio signs off with customary affection for their listeners—“Pod dismissed.”

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Further Listening

For nostalgia, candid critique, and ‘90s sitcom deep dives that don’t pull punches, Pod Meets World continues to be a must for Boy Meets World fans—even for the “bad episodes.”

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We you know I had family in for the holidays and over the holidays we were I was talking about the Rob Reiner situation with my wife, and Indy asked. He was like, what are you guys talking about? And I started to explain what had happened, and I just started sobbing in the kitchen. Like, just. I couldn't. I couldn't explain it to Indy. And then I was like, you know what? Let's. Let's have a Rob Reiner film festival with family. And so we, in one day, watched four Rob Reiner films, and it was the greatest, greatest tribute to this man. Like, I mean, besides Spielberg, I cannot think of a more influential director in my life and share that with me. Maybe Zemeckis is huge, too. Yeah. But, yeah, man, like, when you look at the run of films, it's insane. Insane. Like. And so we started with Spinal Tap. We watched that. Of course, we didn't get into When Harry Met Sally because Alex was not.

[Danielle Fishel]

Alex is not happy about that.

[Will Friedle]

Alex was not happy.

[Ryder Strong]

No.

[Will Friedle]

And how do you not put When Harry Met Sally in there?

[Ryder Strong]

He's a romance. You know, he's not there yet, but he's really into horror. So we watched Misery, which is incredible.

[Will Friedle]

So good. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

You know, there's just that run. I mean, obviously Stan, by me, is, like, probably the most influential film of my life. And it was just a beautiful day ended with him and me watching Princess Bride after everyone else had gone to bed. He had already seen Princess Bride, but now he just was dying with laughter. And, man, just what a. You know, like, just what an incredible director. And I, you know, he's in, like. I also had this realization, like, he started on a sitcom, you know, like.

[Will Friedle]

There'S the sitcom of the time.

[Ryder Strong]

And, like, I didn't know that because I never, never watched that show.

[Will Friedle]

Brilliant.

[Ryder Strong]

So I came to his movies, all in the Family.

[Danielle Fishel]

All in the Family.

[Will Friedle]

Norman Lear.

[Ryder Strong]

But I just think watching his movies, I think his, you know, besides his incredible ability to pick the best material out there, which is just legendary. All the scripts are so good. He is by far the most subtle director in terms of, like, he's not doing crazy camera angles or insane lighting or even, like, incredible sound design. The way that, like, somebody like Spielberg, you kind of always feel their film making choices, you know, like, they're very bold. Rob Reiner, he lets the acting and the storytelling take precedence and the camera work and everything secondary. It's like a play.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, but.

[Ryder Strong]

But when you watch it, he's not only creating the best performances of most everybody who ever works with him, that's always, like, the best performance of their career. He's Supporting them in such subtle ways. And, like, the best example is Kathy Bates in Misery, which is just such an astounding. The whole movie is two people in a room, like. And yet from moment to moment, you are on the edge of your seat. And I've seen this movie a million times. Every time, you don't know how she's going to be from scene to scene. And you watch the way that he uses the camera and the sound design to very subtly tell you how to feel about her. Like, whether she's, like, in a good. She's a hero saving him as a nurse. And then, like, suddenly, the camera's frame just a little lower, and as she's talking, it's pushing in towards her, and you feel this tension building. You're like, oh, God, why am I uncomfortable? I. I don't know if I could trust this woman. And then she suddenly scream. It's so well made. And it's all in the service of his actors. And I think that's, you know, because he was an actor first and he only. He thinks of story as acting first. And then, of course, with Stand By Me, like, just. It's the greatest child acting performances ever caught on film. And he. He got that by rehearsing with them for weeks, by casting them correctly, by making them all feel confident and comfortable. And, you know, it's just a legendary, legendary film.

[Will Friedle]

I would put one more film in there for child acting performances, and that would be ET if you go back and you watch the child acting performances in E.T. they're pretty outstanding.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, it's amazing.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

But as an ensemble. As an ensemble, it's hard to beat Stand by any.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, no, it's.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, I mean, that's the thing is.

[Will Friedle]

It'S every genre he tried. He made, like, the quintessential version of that genre.

[Ryder Strong]

He defined the genre.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. Yes. It's like, how do you. You don't get a better rom com than When Harry Met Sally? You don't get a better mockumentary, but. Yes, maybe any hall.

[Ryder Strong]

Maybe any hall, but no mockumentary.

[Will Friedle]

It's documentary, Spinal Tap. I mean, sexy romance, courtroom drama. He does it all. He does it all. Psychological thriller. I mean, you pick a genre and you gave him a movie and he would define the genre.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. When you really read. Because when he did pass and you go back and you're like, oh, man. God, that's the saddest, most horrible thing. And. And then you actually read in a row what you did, you're like, this can't be one person. Like this can't be one person. He did all of these. It's amazing. And he was a phenomenal sitcom actor on a groundbreaking television show.

[Ryder Strong]

And beloved. I mean, also just as a person, everybody.

[Will Friedle]

And his positive Carl Reiner was another one. You go back and you watch like Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid and the stuff that he did with Steve Martin, I mean, the Reiners were just. It was working on another level. Just working on another level was really amazing. But yeah, we talked to Alex, Danielle and I talked to Alex at Yamava who was like, don't get me started. I just wanted When Harry Met Sally.

[Danielle Fishel]

Couldn'T have made it more clear that all I wanted was to watch When Harry Met Sally and then when the decisions were made and I heard that the fourth movie in the thing was not going to be When Harry Met Sally, I went to bed.

[Will Friedle]

There's more lines from When Harry Met Sally that Sue and I still quote to this day that are all Jews. Yeah, it's perfect.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, when we were teenagers, I must. I pretty much exclusively watched his movies. Like that's all we did, like as groups of friends. And that's all we quoted were his movies. That's mind boggling. It can all come down to like one director. And granted a lot of that is the age, you know, we were the right age for the. When his movies were coming out. But there's something to it, man. He was just, he was so good. He was so good.

[Will Friedle]

Well, it would have been like, it would have been like 10 years earlier with all of the Breakfast Club and.

[Ryder Strong]

It was around the same time, I guess. I mean it's Stand by me was 86.

[Will Friedle]

Was it 86? So yeah, I'm talking about John Hughes. John Hughes. So I guess. But I guess if you were a little older, you were more of the Hughes fan.

[Ryder Strong]

I think so.

[Will Friedle]

Because it was like you had Weird Science and all these kind of movies coming out. Vacation, he's another one John Hughes that you look back at his list of things and you're like, my God, he.

[Ryder Strong]

Dared never been real.

[Will Friedle]

He didn't like Vacation and Club.

[Ryder Strong]

Weird Science.

[Will Friedle]

Oh God, these were defining for me.

[Ryder Strong]

I'd love to get into it with you at some point. There's something, there's something a little mean about John Hughes films for me. I've always felt like as much as they try to be inclusive, like the Breakfast Club is supposed to be about these misfits. I don't know, man, it always feels a little cynical And I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, it captured high school.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, I'm sure that's the way it.

[Will Friedle]

Was in high school that, you know, he kind of picked up on that. And that's especially high school in the 80s when there was a ton of bullying and racism in a lot of it. Misogyny. I mean, that's what it was like in the 80s. I mean, it was just. It was so it was kind of that snapshot in time. Whereas that's the thing about Reiner was you put a movie in the 50s, he'll take that perfect snapshot in time. You put a movie in the 80s, he'll make that perfect snapshot of time, put it in a fantasy world. I mean, he just.

[Ryder Strong]

Right. It was right. Well, you know, it's different than Hughes too, because he wasn't writing the material. I'm sure he was very involved. But, you know, he had less of a voice as, like, as a writer, you know, he's much more of a director, like, you know, and an actor's director. And so his, his ability to bring different types of stories to life and each time commit and just, you know, like you said, define the genre.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Crazy. Crazy list.

[Danielle Fishel]

Unbelievable director man. Rest in peace. An absolute tragedy. Well, welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fishel.

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Today we are recapping Season 7 Episode 4 no Such Thing as a sure Thing. It originally aired October 15, 1999 for sure thing.

[Ryder Strong]

Also a Rob Reiner film.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Great movie. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

The synopsis. With the help of her mother, Topanga decides if Corey is a sure bet, while Jack gets Eric in over his head with a bookie. It was directed by Jeff McCracken. It was written by Gary H. Miller. And before I jump into our guest stars, shall we share our overall thoughts?

[Ryder Strong]

I was just kind of confused. I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

I. I hate this episode.

[Ryder Strong]

You hated it?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So did I. This is a terrible episode.

[Ryder Strong]

I just felt like I just didn't know what world we were in. And then when I was like, oh, is this the episode where Cory and Topanga are going to get back together? This feels really weird.

[Will Friedle]

First, we just saw this exact same storyline with Trina. The same exact one.

[Ryder Strong]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

Then you guys are kissing the entire time, which is disgustingly off putting. Eric is now an Italian bike rider. None of this made sense. Also, it was a hard 22 minute. Guys. You guys are cheerleaders, and now we're cheerleaders. None of this made sense. This was a bad episode of television. This was.

[Ryder Strong]

And a little, little. Little assaulty, too. Oh, my God, you're looking up her dress, Corey.

[Will Friedle]

Cory just tries.

[Ryder Strong]

And then she goes, I apologize. That was so weird.

[Will Friedle]

I was like, this is a bad episode.

[Ryder Strong]

Those moments were very jarring. But, yeah, man, I was. It was a. Okay.

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Ryder Strong]

All right.

[Will Friedle]

And it didn't. It also didn't sucked. It was. Yeah, I agree. It sucked. And it did not. The bits. The quote unquote funny bits did not outweigh the suckiness of this episode. No, this was. This was just a bad episode of television.

[Danielle Fishel]

Bad. Just bad.

[Ryder Strong]

Agree. So let's get the integration of Topanga's parents felt, like, sudden and like, what. What are they doing here? And why are we with that? I don't.

[Will Friedle]

And again, we literally just saw the same storyline. Parents coming to tell you this. You're not us. You've got to be with. We just saw this.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

So, yeah, this is. This was bad for me.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. I just wonder why they decided to bring everybody back together within a matter of four episodes. Like, you break everybody up. You do that for the sake of having storylines that take advantage of the fact that, like, Cory and Topanga aren't together. I can answer what?

[Will Friedle]

Because we didn't. We thought at this point we only had 13, so we had to get him back together and do the wedding in order to all within 13 episodes.

[Ryder Strong]

You're absolutely right, because it doesn't make sense to me. It's like, you go through this dramatic first episode to, like, break them up into, like. And then you don't take advantage of it. Like, you just bring us back together within four. It's like, what? Yeah, okay, that makes sense.

[Danielle Fishel]

Also, now remembering that you guys. That Angela breaks up with you at the end of the season again. Yeah. You guys just got back together.

[Ryder Strong]

I know.

[Danielle Fishel]

All right. I can't. Well, I don't know where the season's going. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

But I will say, neither do they. Do they, like, the writers don't either because they didn't expect to have to add another nine episodes, so nobody knows where that's going at this point.

[Danielle Fishel]

Guest starring Marcia Cross returns as the newest Rhiannon Lawrence. The talented Mark Herlick also returns as Jedediah Lawrence. And Grant Garrison as Jerry. He appeared on TV shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, jag, Monk and the Good Guys, and movies like Arlington Road and the island, and appears to still be acting, showing up on the chosen back in 2023. And then Sasha Barisi appears as Joanina. This guest star role was in the same year the former model virtually debuted in the blockbuster comedy American Pie. She also was in TV shows like Just Shoot Me, MTV's Undressed and Supernatural and movies like Legally Blonde and the great remake from Matt Reeves. Let me in. But she is best known as Tracy the wife in all three Hangover movies. And despite acting a ton for quite a while, Hangover 3 was her last Hollywood credit because she appears to be focused on playing poker professionally. All right, jumping into our recap. Are we starting the student union? Shawn and Angela are yelling at each other, surrounded by a huge crowd, drowned out by a loud marching band. Sean is spilling his heart out. If he was only going to be alive for one minute, he'd spend it looking in her eyes. Angela yells right back. If he was only going to be alive for one minute, she'd tell him to stop looking and stop. Start kissing. And then they begin to make out. And the inmates. Nope, next 22nd stop. And the inmates ooh and ah as we zoom out to reveal the chaos around them. It's a pep rally. And Rachel is standing on a nearby table in her cheerleading uniform. She is shouting into a megaphone, hyping up the crowd. Jack and Eric flank her, both wearing male T shirts, cheerleading uniforms. So I guess the three of you are on the cheerleading squad.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, obviously.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

That's been a huge part of the program for five years.

[Ryder Strong]

What's program Is that what it is?

[Will Friedle]

Well, just get going. Okay. Ready? Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

God. What. I mean, like, where did this episode come from? Did, like, somebody pitched a, like, football player betting storyline? They were like, yeah, that works. And then we'll make that with the one where Corey Debaga get back together.

[Will Friedle]

It's like, yeah, that's the B story. The idea that Jack, this perfect guy, has a gambling problem. Pretty funny. Like, you could.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love that.

[Will Friedle]

Anything with that. And then they did this with it.

[Ryder Strong]

So.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I don't. I mean, like, that's a funny B story. Is Jack trying to bet? But why are we all cheerleaders?

[Danielle Fishel]

Why? I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

Why am I looking up her skirt and it's just. It's all. And you're just making out for tw. It's a very strange episode.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Not. Not my faves.

[Will Friedle]

No, my faves either.

[Danielle Fishel]

Students in school colors wave their pom poms as Rachel asks, who are we going to be? The crowd yells back, the Amish. When she asks the crowd who's going to lead them to victory, they all scream in unison. Jerry Mungo, a football uniform jock, raises his hands in victory. And the school mascot, Pengi the penguin, does a backflip off a trampoline and the students go nuts. High five in one another.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't understand. Like, this is where I was like, the Amish are.

[Danielle Fishel]

There's another school is a school.

[Ryder Strong]

There are actually Amish people.

[Will Friedle]

They're supposed to be Amish people. I think there was several Amish jokes in this first.

[Ryder Strong]

I know, but I was just like, I thought for a minute McMahon was another school team was called the Amish.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's what I.

[Ryder Strong]

When they reveal that the guy actually is Amish with his beard.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

I think that's.

[Ryder Strong]

Then I'm like, is this kind of offensive?

[Will Friedle]

Is not to who Never going to see it. They're Amish, so, you know, it could.

[Ryder Strong]

Be on their rum spring. And they could see it.

[Danielle Fishel]

They could see it then.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

But.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, no, that's what it was. That was the joke was that they're Amish.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right? So funny.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes. So hysterical. Let's.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love it now. Meanwhile, Defena is outside quietly studying. Shawn and Angela walk over and ask to sit with her. She begins to say, as long as you don't. And they completely ignore her. Her. Angela takes a seat on Sean's lap and they start to make out. Topanga rolls her eyes in annoyance that inside, Jack and Eric are performing a stunt, holding up a cheerleader by the bottom of her sneakers. Eric sneaks a peek under the girl's skirt. Jack gives him a disapproving look, and Eric snaps back to reality. They let the girl down, and as she walks away, Eric calls out, see you, panty. I. I mean, Patty.

[Will Friedle]

We also are actually holding her up there.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, that's not a. It's a dangerous thing to be a cheerleader. I don't even remember like, being the. It's called the base, I think.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Bass. That's.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Holding.

[Danielle Fishel]

And then you guys lower her down like.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, I know. That was. I did think that was. Well done. Jack accuses Eric of wanting to look up Patty's skirt more than he wants to beat the Amish. Eric shrugs. I've got nothing against the Amish. They're a decent, hard working, agrarian people. I.

[Ryder Strong]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Jack reminds him they've kicked their butts 47 years in a row. But Eric waves that off as a little streak. What are the chances they're going to do that again? Jack reveals that Vegas has them as a 14 point favorite. Eric can't believe it. You, Mr. Clean Cut, a gambling man. Jack shrugs him off, but Eric gets serious. Do you have a problem that needs my help? Jack insists he doesn't, so Eric just immediately believes him and gives his friend a big hug. A satisfied Eric sees Pengy the Penguin sitting at a nearby booth. Taking a break. The mascot takes the penguin head off for a breath of fresh air. And Eric notices something. Oh, look, he's Amish. And then it clicks. Hey. He runs after the man at full speed. And to escape, Pengy does a backflip off the little trampoline, which Eric tries to copy. This really made me laugh.

[Ryder Strong]

This was funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

Funny as can be.

[Will Friedle]

That was funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

But instead, he just frustratingly jumps backward, allowing the Amish penguin to get away.

[Will Friedle]

That was funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. We found our first laugh.

[Will Friedle]

We found our first. There was a laugh.

[Danielle Fishel]

There was a laugh there. Back outside, Angela and Sean are still making out. When Corey appears. He alerts Topanga. Oh, look how the formerly separated now behave. I want to be like them? She asks. You want to make out? Until we realize we hate each other someday, Corey reminds her. We hate each other now. So your little plan doesn't work, does it? Kiss me with tongue. And he sticks his tongue out.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Topanga physically turns around, appropriately repulsed, and Corey smirks. Oh, she thinks that's going to stop me. That's not going to stop me. He lunges towards her and starts kissing the side of her face so she Shoves him onto the floor in response. It is not played for comedy.

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Danielle Fishel]

It plays like a fight. And the inmates give a little bit of a concerned. Topenka quickly jumps up to check on him, and she apologizes.

[Will Friedle]

Thank God you apologize.

[Danielle Fishel]

Didn't mean to hurt you.

[Will Friedle]

Good.

[Danielle Fishel]

But Corey shakes his head. That's it. I've had it with you. It's so ridiculous.

[Ryder Strong]

The whole thing is you won't let me attack, kiss you, and then you.

[Will Friedle]

Dared to knock me off of you. I'm done. It's like, wait, what? Yeah. Do you. Did you remember this at all?

[Danielle Fishel]

Zero.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, me neither.

[Ryder Strong]

I know. I remember nothing about this episode. I mean, I can tell.

[Will Friedle]

Why?

[Ryder Strong]

Because I'm just like, sit. I mean, I had no part. It was like, literally, like, oh, you remember one part?

[Will Friedle]

I'll bet you remembered one part because for our live show, it's me in the.

[Ryder Strong]

Jacqueline.

[Will Friedle]

Jacqueline.

[Ryder Strong]

No, but I was the same. That's all I remember, too, from filming it. I know. No, because I'm. I was so out of it this week. I know what happened. It was like, oh, I'm just making out with Trina. And, like, you know, and it's. What's so weird is to think about, like, how I just didn't care. Like, you know, she's like, okay, we're just making out. Like, now I would be like, can we do something else? Can we find a way to make this more interesting? But at the time, I was so, like, disassociated with my own body that I would just be like, yeah, sure. And I'm sure Trina felt the same way. Let's do the thing we always do.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Weird.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, I. Like I said before we started this season, or even maybe early on in the podcast, like, I remember feeling generally, I guess the best word to describe it is over the Cory and Topanga relationship. I was over it. I did not know how to articulate what it was about. Wasn't just, we've been doing it for seven seasons. It wasn't that. It was a disgust. I had a disgust about the relationship and about the storylines pertaining to the relationship, and now that I'm, you know, have watched them all in succession, I would, as an actor on a show that was doing this now, be able to articulate why this is. This is wrong. This is wrong. This isn't. This isn't how this should be going. This is inappropriate. This is.

[Will Friedle]

He's gonna insult me. I'm gonna knock him off and then apologize for knocking him off. Are you kid.

[Danielle Fishel]

So, yeah, I mean, I did. I did. I did remember having that feeling, but I. I didn't know how. I didn't know what it was. I didn't know what to put my finger on as to, like, what it was about it.

[Will Friedle]

You guys were both checked out, too, by this point. You were both just.

[Ryder Strong]

But these last two episodes are just about, you know, wearing down, withholding women.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's all it is.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Wearing down, withholding women until they give in. That's the entire arc of these last two episodes.

[Will Friedle]

Not only that, but also just letting. Having everybody else come to them to let them know what they're feeling.

[Ryder Strong]

Exactly.

[Will Friedle]

Right. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

What they're saying and expressing is wrong.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Convincing them they're wrong and that they should make the decision you want them to make.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

And everyone know better than them and.

[Ryder Strong]

Their parents know better than them.

[Danielle Fishel]

Unable to read the room, Eric comes running back now with the Pengy the Penguin suit in hand. He tells them that the penguin was an Amish infiltrator and he had Penbrook's playbook in his britches. How'd he get it out? He doesn't want to talk about it. The point is, they'll need a new mascot. Corey, seconds after being thrown to the floor by the love of his life, offers to do it. Topanga says he can't. He'll hurt himself. But Corey argues, I couldn't be hurt any more than you've hurt me already. The crowd again is hurt by his emotions as Corey passes Angela and Sean still making out. How you doing? He reminds Topanga she broke his heart, and he's given her every opportunity to get back together. But now, as he puts on the ridiculous penguin head, he has to keep his dignity. He asks Eric how he looks, and Eric grins. You da bird. Corey shakes his penguin head back and forth, asking, you hear that, Topanga? I. The bird. And this bird is moving on. This bird is flying solo. Eric announces to the crowd of students inside. Ladies and gentlemen, put your hands together for the pride of Penbrooke, Pengi, the Penbrooke Penguin. Corey dances into the building, flaunting his stuff, and Topanga watches on with concern.

[Ryder Strong]

Topanga. Pengi, Penguin. That's a lot of.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a lot of alliteration. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Personal assault.

[Danielle Fishel]

All goes together, and we're in the Matthews kitchen. Everyone appears to be aggressively eating dinner at the Matthews house tonight. A real fend for yourself vibe. I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

Angry dinner. Angry dinner.

[Ryder Strong]

Everybody's eating a lot and shopping and cutting in seven seasons. Is this the first dinner at the table we've ever seen?

[Danielle Fishel]

No, no, no, no, no. We.

[Ryder Strong]

We've had breakfast, we've had coffee. We've had bowls. We've had breakfast.

[Will Friedle]

Dinner. Dinner. It was dinner with the. The second episode with the squirt guns. They're having dinner. When he finds it under. Under the table. Oh, my God, Cory, it's a squirt gun.

[Ryder Strong]

Okay, cool.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right? Right.

[Ryder Strong]

Also, this was unusual. I was like, yeah, we don't do this. We have a kitchen table. We have a dining room table. We never use it.

[Danielle Fishel]

The episode with the girl who gives him the socks, she joins them for. I think she's there for dinner also. TK Is there for dinner.

[Ryder Strong]

Is she? Oh, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thank you very much, sister.

[Ryder Strong]

And Mrs. Matthews.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, so she's there for dinner, too. So we have a few dinners. But is this the first time Matt Lawrence has met the Matthews?

[Will Friedle]

They make it seem like no, but yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm not sure I've ever seen.

[Will Friedle]

And also, they always like to have Jack over for angry dinner, which is something they do every week in the Matthews house. It's angry dinner night.

[Danielle Fishel]

Frustrated Fridays.

[Will Friedle]

First of all, just saying, would it kill you to use real potatoes? Is like, man, that's harsh. But secondly, who doesn't use real potatoes?

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, now a lot of people, but have you not had the microwave mashed potatoes that are already made?

[Will Friedle]

No, but those are real potatoes. These are, like, powdered potatoes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Who doesn't do that?

[Ryder Strong]

I think they're still real potatoes. They're just dehydrated. So you add water to them.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. So what is a not real potato? Maybe he. Who knows what he meant. That whole conversation, though, was weird, too, where she's like, I do want to know about you gambling. And I'm like, if that's why I do it.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. I just. I just felt like I was on drugs watching this.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

Honestly, I was like, not the good drug.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm not sure what's happening.

[Danielle Fishel]

And I'm.

[Ryder Strong]

Is it me? I thought it was me. I thought I was, like. Like, too tired or something. Was.

[Will Friedle]

Was wrong.

[Ryder Strong]

But now hearing. Hearing it read back, I'm like, no, none of this actually does.

[Will Friedle]

None of it makes sense. So Alan's also a gambler, huh? And he does it because it pisses his wife off.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. Also, he's a very bad gambler because he continues to bet on the home team. Right.

[Ryder Strong]

On the 47 years.

[Danielle Fishel]

47 years. Just you. You're not.

[Ryder Strong]

Which, by the way, your kids didn't.

[Will Friedle]

Go there at the time. So you had no allegiance to.

[Danielle Fishel]

You had no allegiance. Exactly. No reason. Well, Corey isn't eating. He's beaming. I'm gonna be the penguin. Allen ignores his son, instead asking, is what he heard is true? Jerry Mungo isn't playing on Saturday. That means they'll have no chance to win. Unmoved, Corey repeats himself, I'm gonna be the penguin. Eric explains that Jerry's grades might not be good enough to play, and Morgan heard he's even dumber than Eric, but Eric denies that instantly. That was.

[Will Friedle]

That was funny too. Yeah, that was funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

Allen needs Jerry Mungo to play. He's tired of losing money betting against the Amish. So Brad, stop betting against the Amish. I'm Danielle Fishel, Ryder Strong and Will.

[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Second we show up with a Heineken 00.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Enjoy Hennigan responsibly. Corey continues to try and get attention by announcing he's the Penguin. But now even Amy doesn't care. She comments, I really don't like your gambling. He responds with that's why I do it.

[Will Friedle]

And then she apologizes for it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Corey continues his own conversation now noting that Topanga doesn't think he can be the Penguin. Well, that's fine. They're not getting married anymore. Amy tells the boys.

[Ryder Strong]

Does the Penguin not think he can be the Penguin? Does she say that?

[Danielle Fishel]

She said don't because you'll get hurt.

[Will Friedle]

You'll get hurt.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, okay.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Good.

[Danielle Fishel]

I hope none of you start gambling, she says. Jack asks why? Because it could ruin your life, blow every relationship you ever had. Cause mom and stepdad to almost sell their house in the Hamptons I like this backstory.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, see, this is. This is fun.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'd like to know more about this.

[Will Friedle]

Yes, you could have done a lot more of it with this Mid chew.

[Danielle Fishel]

Allen asks Amy if it would kill her to use real potatoes. And Morgan bluntly tells Jack, I heard you have a problem. Again. Also, I would like to know more. Where did she hear that? It's just completely blown over. Jack gasps and tries his best. Attempted what? And still Cory is ranting. Topanga just doesn't believe in love anymore. And now Alan's interested. He suggests it's time for Corey to move on with his life. Corey agrees. I'm the penguin.

[Will Friedle]

That's a scene that not this entire episode. I think Ryder's right. Drugs, Fever, Dream.

[Ryder Strong]

I. I just can't believe that during a run through, we didn't like, have that. No, this is just. We need to.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Sean and Angela are busy making out in a public setting once again.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, is this is where they were kissing?

[Danielle Fishel]

Uh huh. At this part.

[Ryder Strong]

This part is where they were kissing.

[Danielle Fishel]

While Gerry Mungo mindlessly tosses a football in the air, a passing Feeny snatches it from him. Study, Mr. Mungo, star running back or not. You fail my test, you don't play. Jerry admits, when this college paid me to come here, they didn't say nothing about no tests. Feeny's had enough with his double negatives. He hands him back the football and demands he open a book. As Feeny leaves, he walks past Angela and Sean's makeout sesh. How you doing?

[Will Friedle]

Okay, I. I googled Mungo. Okay, Because I thought that was the name of the character from Blazing Saddles. But the first thing that pops up is a rock band from the 70s called Mungo Jerry.

[Danielle Fishel]

Jerry Mungo. There you go. Okay, so now we know where they got it.

[Will Friedle]

Somebody is a British rock band from the 1970s. So somebody was a fan of Mungo Jerry and named the character after that.

[Ryder Strong]

Or do you think they even knew it? It was like deep in their subconscious and they were like, oh, let's go with the Mungo.

[Will Friedle]

Off of. Yeah, it's got to be.

[Ryder Strong]

Okay, I have a question, and I really can't remember. Didn't we do this storyline in high school? Wasn't there an episode about a football player needing to be tutored?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right, Eric.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Eric helps tutor a football player.

[Danielle Fishel]

Eric helps tutor a football player who gets.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, I was watching this. I was like, didn't we do this? And then we also did the gambling thing with Corey and Sean in first season.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And we also did them getting back together because of their parents. The episode before. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It's like a weird. It's like. It's like an AI generated. Like a bad AI generated Boy Meets World episode. You just take like other episodes and be like, yeah, spit one out.

[Will Friedle]

Shove it in, shove it in there.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's funny. You're right. We did do that. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I kept being like, am I remembering this episode or is there an. But we did. We had an episode in high school.

[Will Friedle]

In high school? Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Where? And it's Eric tutoring him.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Nearby, Jack and Eric find Rachel. Eric colorfully commends her on a great pep rally. And she admits it was mostly to light a fire under Jerry's lazy butt. Rachel knows if he doesn't pass Feeny's exam, they have no chance at winning the game. Jack uncomfortably reacts. Well, you know, it's a sporting event. Oddly shaped ball. Inside information. Inside information. He frantically excuses himself and begins to walk away, but Eric follows closely behind him, pointing out that his roommate is shaking. Jack bites his nails, convincing himself that there's no such thing as a sure thing. That's the first step to accepting that you have a problem. Hello, my name's Jack. Eric robotically responds, hello. Back on the couch, Rachel has taken it upon herself to help Jerry study. She quizzes him on what African nation abolished apartheid in 1986. And he answers, Florida. Eric is impressed. Well, that's one right?

[Will Friedle]

Another funny beat.

[Danielle Fishel]

Jerry asks Rachel why she keeps asking him all these history questions. And she says furiously, because that's your major. She hits him with the textbook, calling him the dumb, dumb, dumbest person alive.

[Will Friedle]

That was a funny bit too. I thought Maitland was good in this episode. Frankly, with nothing to do.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Jack is wide eyed as he realizes there's no way this gavoons passes Mr. Feeny's test. He walks away on a mission as Eric agrees. Yeah, without him, I don't think we're gonna have a player. Now you're gone.

[Ryder Strong]

What was that word? Gavoon.

[Danielle Fishel]

Gavoons.

[Will Friedle]

Gavoons.

[Ryder Strong]

I've never heard that. What is.

[Danielle Fishel]

Me neither. I know.

[Ryder Strong]

I.

[Danielle Fishel]

No idea.

[Will Friedle]

It's. It might be like a made up battalion. Kind of like KVoz, whatever that kind of stuff is. Yeah. Can we use that?

[Danielle Fishel]

G A, G, A, O, O N.

[Ryder Strong]

Z G A V, O O N.

[Danielle Fishel]

Z, N Z Gavons.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, it's a band from the 70s.

[Ryder Strong]

I got nothing. Nothing's coming up.

[Will Friedle]

Don't you remember? Wasn't There an episode where Eric says that like this, they make up words.

[Ryder Strong]

Gavon is a popular Italian American slang term derived from the Italian word caffone used to describe someone who is a glutton, greedy, ill mannered or eats like a pig.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

Especially in a teasing way referencing messy or excessive eating, especially a family gathering. So I guess it's a cavone.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

Gavoons. Gavon. That's. I guess it's a take on Gavon. I don't know. Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

So Jack walks away and. And Eric says, yeah, without him, I don't think we're gonna have a prayer. Now you're gone. Where did you go? Jack's on the payphone now. Danny. Jack Connor. So that's his stepdads.

[Ryder Strong]

I thought he said Jack Hunter. Just weirdly.

[Will Friedle]

I didn't hear it. I tuned out by this point. I think I was watching.

[Ryder Strong]

No, I thought he said Connor too. For a second I was like, oh, no. I guess he just said Jack Hunter so quickly that it's.

[Danielle Fishel]

I think he says Jack Connor. And that's what the chiron says it says.

[Will Friedle]

It says Connor. So it's either either that or it's the fake name he uses with his bookie, which is also the possibility of what it is. It's like he's. He's a Got a fake name.

[Danielle Fishel]

Possibly. I don't know. I mean, I, I would. I, I definitely.

[Ryder Strong]

Jack Hunter. It's Jack Hunter. No, you're right. You would hear that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hear the t. Ch. Yeah. I don't know. It was. I was like. Wait, what?

[Ryder Strong]

I thought I just heard it wrong.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

We want to place a little bed on the Penbrook game. Jack laughs. Yeah, I'm on the 13th step. Relapse. He puts a dime on the Amish, but Eric quickly tries to intercept. The two go back and forth with the phone until Eric finally gets a hold of it. Instead of canceling Jack's wager though, he just asks the bookie to put another dime on the Amish for himself. And then hangs up. Eric boasts, I don't know what I'm doing. He just put me down for a dime, baby. Jack wonders if he knows what a dime is, and Eric nods. He knows the lingo. It's 1450. Jack reveals that a dime is $1,000, and Eric is surprised. Wow. Then he laughs hysterically before fainting from shock. Later on in the student union, Corey is dressed as the penguin sans the mask, while a pretty girl holds on to one of his flippers. He asks, you really thought I Was good. She gushes, you were the best penguin ever.

[Ryder Strong]

And back to the tradition of just girls just throwing themselves at Corey. It's. It's really crazy.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it's really crazy.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's like she can smell that he's single now, and he's dressed as a penguin, and he's apparently not good at it. And. And she is willing to just lie through her teeth about how great he is because she so badly wants to hook up with him.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

He wonders about when he fell into the marching band's tubas, but she thinks that was the best part. Shawn and Angela are still making out, so Cory butts in. Topanga would have thought it was wrong for me to fall into the t tubas. Shawn points out that they're a little busy, and Corey apologizes, then tells them they're doing a great job. Topanga enters and sees Corey with this mystery girl. Just. She asks Kory if, after the game, he'd like to see her dorm room like a real snow bunny. But Corey doesn't catch hidden meaning. He wonders, don't all dorm rooms look the same? Shawn, who is apparently listening in while tonguing his girlfriend, kicks his friend. It finally clicks for Corey, but he's still hesitant.

[Will Friedle]

He reminds me, you say this to me all the time. I'm throwing it back at you. I don't ever want to hear you say tonguing his girlfriend ever again.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, no promises.

[Ryder Strong]

We've got multiple scenes left.

[Danielle Fishel]

Exactly. You never know what's in here. He reminds the girl that they hardly know each other, but she emphasizes, that's why you're coming to my room. Topanga looks stuck, devastated from watching all the horniness. And then we go to a commercial break, and then we're in the student union. With Corey gone, Topanga takes a seat next to Sean and Angela, who, yes, are still making out.

[Will Friedle]

It was nauseating by this point, truly nauseating.

[Ryder Strong]

By the time. Hand chapstick to one another. It's just like, oh, my God.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

Watching it was disgusting. And it was just like, can we please get off? I was literally turning my head.

[Ryder Strong]

That's what I mean. If you do this at a run through, don't you say, you know what? We wrote this as a thing, but obviously it's just weird to watch. So let's. Let's rewrite it. Let's find another way to get this point across. But instead, they just kept so gross.

[Danielle Fishel]

It was gross in. In an episode where maybe you guys were in your dorm room and. And we kept having to go Somebody kept popping their head in there and all. Every time you guys were still just making out. So we get the funny beat of like, wow, it's been four hours and those two have are still making out. But to have you present in every scene, in the background of every scene, to the side of every scene, people trying to talk to you, you engaging in dialogue while also still making out is just, yeah, gross. Topanga explains Corey can do whatever he wants. And Angela responds, he is. Topanga continues, if she's what he wants, then let him have her. Angela finally comes up for air and explains, you're what he wants and he's what you want. Angela asks Shawn for five minutes and promises to make it up to him. He nods. Okay. I haven't had water in four days. Angela moves next to Topanga. Everyone you know has tried to help you. Corey went to Pittsburgh to try to get your parents back together. What do you want from him? Are you happy like this? Topanga sighs, I've never been so unhappy in my life. Angela admits she thought she was protecting Shawne by pushing him away, but she was only hurting them both. Now that they're back together, she's happier than ever. But she does need some chapstick. Topanga hands hers to Angela. She has no use for it now. Angela quickly applies it. Then she hands it to Sean and he hands her a water bottle. They finish hydrating and applying Mentholatum and then go right back to making it. Then a horn sounds and Eric rides in on a racing bike wearing a full Lance Armstrong outfit. And why? I. I don't know why. To show that you're already spending the money you think you're gonna win. But like, but why not come in and throw a three piece suit?

[Will Friedle]

Thank you. Or playing a video game on a new thing. I've got to come in as an Italian bike rider.

[Ryder Strong]

What an Italian thing going on this whole episode, right? Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Which is like what it was after a while. It was as nauseating to me as watching you make out with with Trina the whole time where it's like, really? The Italian accent again? Ugh.

[Danielle Fishel]

He yells to Jack in an attempt at an Italian accent. Oh, ciao bella. I ride bike. I honkle the horn. Jack starts to panic. Eric, this is a $5,000 bike. Which he just knows because he all. He's very into biking, of course.

[Will Friedle]

Huge into biking and gambling.

[Danielle Fishel]

Only going to win $1,000. Eric replies, that's not right. My little Jacqueline. I'm sorry. My English is no so good. How do you say Jack hits his helmet and Eric cuts the bet. I called Danny and I placed a new bet. We're down for five large. Jack's freaking out. He called Danny. Eric reminds him, you said it was a sure thing. Jack is livid. There's no such thing as a sure thing. I learned that in rehab. Eric brings back the Italian accent. Then why I got the expensive bike and the $200 panties with the cushions and the buttocks. Deal is nice. Jack is obviously stressed, but it's going to be okay. As long as Jerry doesn't play, they're in the clear. Eric is sure he's going to play, but Jack is not so sure. What if Feeny goes soft and lets him play? Eric tells him that's never going to happen. He's known feeny for, what, 57 years now? He wouldn't do that. But then the confidence wanes. What if he does? Jack cringes. Then we lose and we can't pay the bookie. Eric hopes he'd understand that, but Jack says, oh, he'll understand that. He'll understand that. While he's looking at our thumbs in a jar, Eric is stunned that this man has a thumb jar. That seems odd. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Funny bit, but. Funny bit, but beat at the end.

[Danielle Fishel]

But the whole.

[Will Friedle]

I just. Now I'm an Italian bike rider. It is just. It really is. Let's see what we can put Will in this whole season, we're gonna put you in an outfit and we're just gonna let you go. And at first it was kind of funny, and now I'm going like, oh, God, where does this go? I mean, again, I guess it culminates with laser squirrels.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

I think.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, that. That it doesn't bother me, honestly, like, you being funny and having weird asides and being ridiculous is like.

[Will Friedle]

Right. But at least the point to it. I mean, I agree, but like, the point where. With Topanga was like, you know, I'm. I'm hiding to sneak attack Topanga.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, there's a reason for that. There's a character basis.

[Will Friedle]

Now I'm just an it. Italian bike rider.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. I mean, I guess. I guess the idea. I don't know why you had to be Italian. I don't get that part. But like I. Like I said, they. They did want to show that you had become addicted to gambling and there's.

[Will Friedle]

Such better ways to do it, and.

[Danielle Fishel]

You'Re spending too much money on things, and I. You know, I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, well, you know, it's. We've talked a little bit. I feel like in the. In the past about the difference between, like, saying, like, having something before be funny versus saying something in a funny voice or.

[Will Friedle]

You know what I mean?

[Ryder Strong]

And I feel like in this case, it actually doesn't make sense. Like there's no motivation. So it's just literally like an Italian accent that'll be funny. And it. It is.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. You're good at it.

[Ryder Strong]

It's a little. Yeah. Pointless.

[Will Friedle]

Like.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, then we're in Feeney's classroom. Eric comes riding his bike into the classroom, honking the horn. Feeny size. Ah, the Tour de Idiot. Eric begins to do his Italian accent. Hi, I'm from the Italy. But Feeny promptly tells him to shut up.

[Will Friedle]

I was like, thank God. Thank God he shut up. I was like, I can't hear this accent anymore.

[Danielle Fishel]

Eric gets serious. Jerry Mungo. I think you should pass him and let him play, no matter how stupid he is, feeny explains. I'm going to make this so simple that even you can understand it. Eric takes off his sunglasses and challenges his teacher. You can try, feeny says. Because Gerry Mungo can score touchdowns, he's been given a free ride through this university. I detest that. Eric asks. So let me get this straight. If Jerry doesn't pass his test, there's no way you're going to let him play? Feeny nods. Eric lets out a happy little giggle, hiding it. To ask, what's passing? Feeny quips, oh, that's right. You wouldn't know. 65? Eric asks. What about a 64? An 80? A 20? Feeny answers every time until he can't take it anymore. Are you kidding me? Eric understands, but asks again about 20. Eric can't believe that Feeny cares more about morals and ethics than he does about football. But Feeny's not budging. They go back and forth, yelling fine. To each other until Feeny tells him he doesn't want to play anymore. Eric gets the last laugh by saying fine, thus winning the game. He maniacally laughs and bikes out of the room. We see Jack was waiting for him in the hallway. Eric excitedly reveals that he did it. It's in the bag. No way Mungo is going to play. He outsmarted Feeny and it felt so good. Jack congratulates him, but Eric doesn't want to leave. He insists that he needs to go back into the classroom and pull another one over on Feeny. But Jack begs him not to do it. Eric honks his horn as he re enters and Feeny looks less than pleased. To seal the deal, Eric tells him, just remember one thing. When Gerry Mungo fails his test and that Amish horse drawn buggy charges across our football field in victory, crushing the hearts of every student here at this university, you hold your head up high, Feeny cause you held to your ethics. Good for you. He backs away and lets out a few more insane giggles before one again pedaling out. But this time Feeny ponders Eric's words a bit more than before. Okay, really sealed the deal on that scene. Like we get what's gonna happen now for sure.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, this is and again, this was them. I got what they were doing. They wanted to get Eric and Feeny together and so they would manufacture reasons to do that. That and it was again, I always loved working with Bill so I didn't have a problem with it. But a lot of times you're just kind of like, okay, yeah, just riding the bike around the school.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Second we show up with a Heineken 00.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

Enjoy Hennigan responsibly. And then we're in the girl's apartment. Rhiannon and Jedediah Lawrence exit the elevator together and Jedediah makes a beeline for Topanga's apartment. Rhiannon's hesitant about whatever they're doing. There's absolutely no reason to tell her this now. He argues that she's gonna find out eventually, so it's best for her to find out from him. But Rhiannon reminds him that this is between Cory and Topanga, not between Topanga and Him. Jedediah emphasizes that the only reason there's an issue with Cory and Topanga is because of him. He wants to help.

[Ryder Strong]

What?

[Danielle Fishel]

Rhiannon insists. She's not ready for this. You tell her you left me for someone else, she'll hate you. Jedediah shakes his head. No, she won't. I'm her father. She loves me. And with that, he rings the doorbell. It's been a while, so. Welcome back. The optical flip.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, we have a doorbell that never existed. By the way, this last episode, remember? I was just knocking on the door.

[Danielle Fishel]

Knock, knock, knock, knock, knock.

[Will Friedle]

Knocking. Knock, knock, knocking, knocking.

[Danielle Fishel]

Topanga tells her dad to get out. She's crying, and he's begging her to give him a chance, but she won't listen. She hugs her mom while her dad leaves, telling his daughter he loves her and is sorry for what he did.

[Ryder Strong]

Okay, so he was thinking, if I admit to Topanga that I.

[Danielle Fishel]

There are two different things, they're two different thoughts. One, she's gonna find out I have a girlfriend and left you for another woman anyway, I want to be the person to tell her, understand? And two, if not for our divorce, Cory and Topanga wouldn't be having any problems. So I also want to smooth. I also want to tell her to get back together with Corey. Why?

[Ryder Strong]

But like. Like, why does the fact. Because her feelings are wrong, but they're still divorcing. And. And if she assumed that, like, the. So. So the idea is that because he left her for another woman and didn't just divorce her for, I guess, any other reason, that that was an. It will convince Topanga that it's okay to stay with Corey.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. Because that would never happen to them.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't. But it's like, they're still divorcing and.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And so he's not saying you and Corey. Like, I just don't understand. It's like, you and Corey are going to work. Like, I just think you're still divorcing. The logic doesn't make any sense to me that, like, because I left your mom for another woman, it has no reflection on my love for her. So therefore, your love for Corey should still be good. Like what?

[Will Friedle]

Right?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. It's the last episode. It was the dad saying to Angela, you're not your mom. Your mom left. You're not gonna do that because you're in love.

[Ryder Strong]

Right?

[Will Friedle]

And in this one.

[Ryder Strong]

Because I told you so.

[Will Friedle]

Because I told you so. And in this one, it's. It really has nothing to do with your mom. It's all about me. So Corey might still cheat on you.

[Danielle Fishel]

Maybe it's the same idea. I wasn't in love with your mom anymore. And so as long. And that's what it is. Because. Because that's. Then what Topanga says. Love is real, and we have to do everything we can to keep it alive. So in this situation, the situation with her parents, their love died. He found love with someone else.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

And so as long as Cory and Topanga don't let their love die, they'll never get a divorce.

[Ryder Strong]

But that still might happen. Like, I don't understand why it's a different argument. Like, how does it change anything that he left her for another woman? That doesn't change anything. As far as the logic, which I put in air quotes, because it makes me.

[Danielle Fishel]

No. Unless you're saying to someone, as long as you learn from my mistakes and don't fall out of love.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. The only way this would have worked is if Topanga thought the relationship was breaking up because of her mother.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

And then it's the father who comes and is like, it's not her fault. It's my fault.

[Ryder Strong]

Right. That's a good point. Right. If he. If she thought, like, oh, I'm gonna be like my mom.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

And break up a healthy marriage. Right. And it turns out to be the dad. And then it's Corey going, but I'm not your dad. I'm not gonna hurt you.

[Ryder Strong]

So convoluted.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Why did.

[Danielle Fishel]

Why would Topanga think it was her mom? Like, why. Like, why would she.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, why does she assume that because her parents broke up, she can't be in a relationship anyway? That correlation makes no sense.

[Will Friedle]

But the. No, none of this made any sense. But I was Italian.

[Ryder Strong]

Ah, that's not right. My little Jacqueline.

[Danielle Fishel]

Once he's gone, Topanga tells her mom she's so sorry and asks if she knew. Rhiannon nods. I knew. He was just so happy all the time. And there's a small laugh there from the inmates. Topanga asks why she didn't tell her, and Rhiannon explains that it wasn't important. Topanga decides she doesn't like her dad anymore, and Rhiannon admits, neither do I, except I do, and so do you. Topanga insists, I hate him, but her mom says, no, you don't. You can never hate him, and I would never want you to. Topanga doesn't understand how she can be so rational about this. And I love Jeff McCracken, but I did not like the blocking of this just going back and forth and back and forth. And I know, I know that they didn't want not two people just sitting in one location having a conversation. But I so much would have preferred two people sitting in one location having a conversation than Topanga just aimlessly bouncing back and forth.

[Ryder Strong]

Pacing.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, just pacing is just not good.

[Will Friedle]

And I know we've said this before, but pointing it out again, Marcia Cross is a rock star.

[Danielle Fishel]

She's so good.

[Will Friedle]

Really, really good.

[Danielle Fishel]

So good. Rhiannon says that after you cut his face out of every family photo, smash everything he owns, and cry hysterically over it for three months, you eventually get to rational. Topanga responds, well, I'm not rational. And Rhiannon agrees. She tells her daughter, whatever happens between your father and me shouldn't affect what happens between you and Corey.

[Ryder Strong]

Wow, someone said it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

My God.

[Danielle Fishel]

Topanga's shocked that her mom can even be thinking of her amidst all this chaos. Ranon sighs, well, I may not be a wife anymore, but I'm still your mother. Topanga shakes her head. I don't ever want Cory and I to hurt each other like you and dad. Rhiannon exclaims, to hell with me and dad. This isn't about us anymore. This is about you and Corey and what you and Corey have. It's rare and real and good and true. Topanga admits she's scared. She's scared because of her mom and how she's always perceived her parents as happy. Rhiannon insists we were, and now we're not. But I would never trade what I had with your father, even if I knew it wasn't going to last forever. Topang is shocked to hear her mom say that. Rhiannon asks, are you going to give up Corey because you're afraid of what might happen in the future? Or are you going to have the courage to marry him and find out? And then we're back in the student union for another pep rally, the big game against the Amishes tonight. Corey is dressed up as Pengie, and the mystery girl, who apparently has a penguin fetish, reminds him, my room after the big game. Corey gives her an over the top salute in response, then returns to getting the crowd hyped up. Eric and Jack, who are supposed to be participating as cheerleaders, seem very stressed. Eric asks, it's getting a little late, don't you think? Feeny should have announced that he's not playing by now? Just then, Jack sees the teacher walk in. Here comes Mr. Party Pooper now. Feeny hops onto the stage and Eric asks everyone to be quiet to hear the announcement. Feeny acknowledges the rumors and admits, I'm afraid I have some bad news. Jack and Eric exchange excited looks. Then Feeny continues, bad news for the Amish. I give you our starting tailback, Gerry Mungo. Jerry sprints onto the stage holding his helmet. Accompanied by Rachel. He hops onto the stage, giving out high fives to the excited crowd. Eric and Jack are horrified. They immediately confront Feeny. Eric wonders, how could he pass? He's dumber than me. How could he pass? Jack asks Feeny, what happened? Feeny points to Eric. He happened. That last thing you said to me in my office got me thinking. Jack growls at Eric, you had to go back in there. And Eric begs, don't hate me. Feeny wonders, was I so focused on academia that I forgot about school spirit? The boys try to tell him, no, but Feeny says, yes. So I took on the ultimate challenge. Could I take somebody actually dumber than you? And in only 24 hours, raise him to his highest possible level. Eric whines, and you did. Feeny pulls out the test and hands it to him. 65, baby. Eric and Jack stare at the test in disbelief. And Feeny pats them on the shoulders. Come on, boys. Let's go kick some Amish butt. Jack breaks the news to Eric. You killed us, genius. But Eric tries to sugarcoat it. Jack. Jack, listen to me. Bookies take so many bets, they're probably not even thinking about ours. Jack sarcastically tells him, yeah, you're probably right. Eric smiles. I'm not right at all, am I? And at that moment, two scary men dressed in all black creep up behind them.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, I've never, never placed a bet with a bookie in my life. But do they normally show up before the game has happened?

[Danielle Fishel]

No. Okay.

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Danielle Fishel]

Never.

[Will Friedle]

Just checking.

[Ryder Strong]

Just checking.

[Danielle Fishel]

One of those bookies is Gary H. Miller. Gary H. Miller, the one who talks? Yep. Eric extends a hand. Hello. Two very large men. I don't believe we've had the pleasure. One of them responds. Danny sent us. The bookies had a convention. And you two were voted most likely to lose and run like the wind. Eric whispers to Jack. See, they're not here to hurt us. They wanted to give us a plaque. Jack tells him to run, and they make a break for it. The goons follow quickly behind. Then we see Topanga walking through the crowd of students. She spots Pengi and taps him on the shoulder. Don't say anything. Just hold me. They hug, and Pengui slowly starts to move his flipper down to her butt. But then Corey enters the student union. He's not Pengui. Topanga sees him and quickly pulls away from the creepy mascot. She looks at the penguin and punches him straight in the face, knocking him to the floor. She asks Hori why he isn't the penguin, and he explains, I fell on the tubas. I tore cartilage doing the igloo dance. You were right. I made a terrible penguin. Nobody knows me better than you. She smiles. Nobody knows me better than you. And now we start this thing that we used to have to do on the show where we have rapid fire conversation back and forth where no one's listening to each other.

[Will Friedle]

That's real. That happens in real life all the time.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah? Corey asks. It doesn't matter though, right? Topanga tells him, you mean everything to me. And he says, because we're never going to be together again. Topanga says, I want to be with you forever. Corey continues, but it's okay. I've accepted it. I'm ready to move on. Topanga responds, I love you. I want to be your wife.

[Ryder Strong]

This is funny that this is the bit because this is what happens on the monkey bars, right? Or whatever. Or the playground. So this is the. The. The. The. The reun. Whenever Cory Dobango reunite, they literally talk over one another.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. And Corey doesn't hear anything she's saying, ever.

[Danielle Fishel]

No.

[Ryder Strong]

That's remarkably like.

[Danielle Fishel]

It waits until the moment that Corey is ready to just. He. When in his final moment of giving up the last possible second, Topanga changes it.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And he's still not listening to her.

[Will Friedle]

What?

[Danielle Fishel]

No.

[Ryder Strong]

My God.

[Will Friedle]

That is so healthy.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, just. It's so revealing. Like, it's amazing that being written to.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Just. Yeah. And I don't think it was intentional, probably.

[Ryder Strong]

No, it's like a bit that like somehow got, you know. Yeah, just. It's just. Yeah, it's really revealing.

[Danielle Fishel]

Clueless. Corey grabs her hand and says, so I guess you and I are officially over. Goodbye, Topanga. She pushes him down onto the floor and pins him down. He admits this is new. Amongst the crowd. She lies next to him. If something bad happens to us someday, it could never change what we have now. What we've always had. Because you're right, Corey. Love is real and we have to do everything we can to keep it alive. Corey breaks it to her. You really haven't been doing that, dear. She asks, what can I do to make it up to you? He winces. You can move your knee. She apologizes and explains, wherever life takes us I want it to be with you.

[Ryder Strong]

Why do they end up on the ground?

[Danielle Fishel]

Because she's gonna make out with them now.

[Will Friedle]

She knows them. They're gonna make out.

[Ryder Strong]

So it's just like, aggressive female.

[Danielle Fishel]

Aggressive female.

[Ryder Strong]

Domination, sexual.

[Will Friedle]

I think it's also because he wasn't listening. She grabbed him like, now I'm gonna. Now I've got you. So you're gonna.

[Ryder Strong]

Very unmotivated. It just feels like, oh, we just get. And I was like.

[Danielle Fishel]

He said goodbye. And so she needed to pin him down so he didn't leave because he wasn't listening to her. So it was literally, I have to physically restrain him. And it's. I'm gonna do it with, you know, my insource element.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. It's a sexual tackle.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes. They lean in and kiss each other. Meanwhile, on stage, Rachel tells the crowd that it's time to stick it to the Amish. Everyone runs out the door for the big game, leaving just Angela and Sean and Cory and Topanga still laying on the floor as band members step over them. Two couples back together again, happily making out in public like absolute perverts. And then we're in the tag.

[Ryder Strong]

We have rooms. We're adults.

[Danielle Fishel]

We are adults.

[Ryder Strong]

High school at a high school dance where you have to, like, make out on a corner, but we're just like, just go to your dorm rooms and get it on. Like Shawn and Angela. What are you doing?

[Danielle Fishel]

What are you doing? And then we're in the tag. We're in Amish country. Eric and Jack are disguised as Amish men, riding in a horse and buggy. Jack scolds Eric for groping the women while they churn the butter.

[Will Friedle]

Because we need it. Hey, we got 35 seconds left. Let's get another sexual assault joke in there. You got the time?

[Danielle Fishel]

Eric frowns. But I love dairy. And I think I'm falling hard for Anna Lewendyke. I tried to talk to her, but she shunned me. Jack reminds him she hit him with a rake. Eric asks, how long do you think we have to hide out here? Jack shrugs. 40, 50 years? Everybody should be dead. Eric tries to look at the positives. Maybe it's not such a bad thing. Nobody here knows who I am. It's a fresh start. Maybe if I don't screw up, I can have a good life here. Jack points into the distance. Isn't that the girl you were just talking about? Eric excitedly shouts out, anna Lewendyke, I wish to make out with thee. A pitchfork is thrown their way, and Eric catches it. Wow, she's got quite the arm. But Jack is terrified. They're chucking pitchforks. Let's go. As the buggy speaks.

[Ryder Strong]

Because he assaulted a woman, right?

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, that's. That's the joke. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

The joke is.

[Will Friedle]

And then tried to hit on her again.

[Ryder Strong]

That's pretty.

[Danielle Fishel]

Aw.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, yes, it's.

[Will Friedle]

We. Did we.

[Ryder Strong]

There was a scene earlier where Corey.

[Will Friedle]

Grabs Topanga, tries to kiss her. She pushes him off and apologizes for pushing him off. This is a. This is just par for the course for this episode.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. As the buggy speeds off into the sunset, Eric shouts out, I thought you were peaceful people. That's our episode.

[Will Friedle]

When this Boy Meets Work.

[Danielle Fishel]

I was gonna say thank you all for joining us.

[Will Friedle]

First two episodes weren't bad.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, this is 704.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, is this the fourth? Okay, the third one.

[Ryder Strong]

The third one was like. It was okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

I enjoyed the three.

[Will Friedle]

This. This.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, we've. This for me of. While not loving all four episodes, this for me, is the first one of the season I find unwatchable.

[Will Friedle]

Agreed. 100%.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, 100%.

[Will Friedle]

This is. This is. And I know we haven't watched the other episodes in quite a while, but I bet you if we had a list of the top 10 worst episodes of this series, this would be on my list.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, me too.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, me too. Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram Pod Meets World show. You can send us your emails, podmeatsworldshowmail.com, and we've got Merch.

[Will Friedle]

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Merch. Podmeetsworldshow.com Writer, send us off.

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