TGI – Episode 710 “Picket Fences” PART 1

Summary

Pod Meets World — TGI: Episode 710 “Picket Fences” PART 1

Podcast: Pod Meets World
Hosts: Danielle Fishel, Will Friedle, Ryder Strong
Release Date: March 12, 2026
Episode Focus: Boy Meets World, Season 7, Episode 10 — "Picket Fences"

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the Pod Meets World hosts Danielle, Will, and Ryder take a deep dive into Boy Meets World Season 7, Episode 10 (“Picket Fences”), originally aired November 21, 1999. They revisit the episode’s themes of young adulthood: searching for a home, financial struggles, and the development of relationships—contrasting Cory and Topanga’s “A” plot apartment woes with a much-maligned “B” plot at the student union. The hosts also go off-script in memorable tangents about 2020s youth slang, generational language, and the changes in American homeownership over the past 25 years.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Modern Youth Culture: "Looksmaxxing" and Gen Z/Alpha Slang

[02:42–14:22]

• Hosts react to the proliferation of new internet and incel-adjacent lingo: "looks maxing," "mewing," "mogging," and "clavicular."
  • Danielle explains: "Looks maxers have decided that in order to avoid being an incel, they are going to maximalize their beauty... Plastic surgery, hitting testosterone, having hair transplants if they don’t like their hairline." [05:15]
  • Will: “So the way to make yourself manly is by breaking your cheekbones with something.” [05:15]
• The absurd extremes: objectifying masculine features (jawline, broad shoulders, etc.) and even causing intentional facial microfractures for looks.
  • Danielle: “These people take it extremely far.”
• The hosts connect these trends to cycles of metrosexuality, 80s/90s teen culture, Jersey Shore attitudes, and their own children’s exposure to it.
  • Danielle shares about her son's early obsession with abs and appearance: “He’s six and a half... anytime he goes anywhere even remotely home-adjacent, his shirt’s immediately ripped off.” [07:31]
• Ryder: Points out how online social environments and meme language profoundly shape youth culture—contrasting it with their own generational slang and how once adults adopt youth slang, it dies quickly.
  • “I keep a list, literally on my fridge, of all these words, and I use them all the time, and it pisses them off. And then he stops using them…” [13:22]
• The hosts share and reminisce about their own childhood/teenage slang ("hella", "beans", "cool beans", "unhappy MacNam", etc) [14:22–16:00].

2. Recap of “Picket Fences” — Episode Analysis

[24:45–34:51]

• A Story (Cory & Topanga): The search for an apartment, financial stress, and realizing independent adulthood.
  • Ryder: “I do think this is the Cory Topanga season... There’s a moment with the two of you on the couch... I was like, wow, I have never seen this Cory and Topanga. It was adult.” [26:22]
  • Danielle: “It felt calm. It felt non-chaotic... It felt very honest, like we were listening to each other.” [26:51]
  • Will: Notes the episode’s efforts to show real growth and genuine, adult romantic love.
• Theme: The show contrasts the “ever after” fantasy with actual challenges of early marriage and independence.
  • Ryder: “Once we get married, everything’s great... And the fact that our show tackled the idea of, like, no, it’s hard.” [34:02]
• Parental Interference: The Matthews' lesson-heavy approach—ranging from manipulative to genuinely moving.
  • Danielle shares: Her parents’ real-life parallel struggles as newlyweds surviving on $20 a week for groceries, later realizing those were their happiest times. [30:02–31:41]
    • “Those are some of the happiest times of my life... We learned so many incredible skills about budgeting and communication and so many good things came from that experience.” [31:41]
  • Will (on what got missed): “I think they killed it with the character, where when he says, ‘would you have come to help me plumb,’ Rusty should have said, of course. I’ll always give you my knowledge.” [32:36]
• The show’s point-of-view: Emphasis on Corey’s journey from cartoonish “boy” to real-world adulthood.

3. The B Story (Eric, Jack, Student Union)—Unanimous Disdain

[34:51–38:46; 65:03–72:01]

• Universally panned as “unwatchable,” “pointless,” and “the most pointless storyline and character we’ve ever had on the show.”
  • The hosts lament the recycling of plots—random love triangles, nepotism (Nicole Eggert as Bridget), body shaming, and failed attempts to generate new comedic energy.
  • Will: “You could easily have gone in and pitched this show, Cory and Topanga together, and pitched it as it’s Mad About You at 19… but the rest of it was great. And then there's the B story.” [34:20]
  • Ryder: “The monkey storyline sounds like a fully fledged wonderful character developed piece of art compared to this.” [71:17]
  • Dissection of how the Eric/Jack dynamic, once split up, lost its spark and purpose.
• Discussion of Nicole Eggert’s cameo and how behind-the-scenes decisions derailed planned arcs for her character.
• Memorable Meta-Moment: The rapid-fire failing of B-stories in Season 7 ("There’s another bottom to this barrel!"), and hosts’ wry acceptance.

4. Generational Shifts & “Slice of Life” Sitcoms

[39:35–41:00; 79:10–80:31]

• Quick history of variety shows, drive-by/single-episode guest star tropes, and sitcom conventions.
  • Danielle: “It is a sitcom trope for sure. And by the way, potential for great drive bys... when it works, it works well.”
• Discuss how, for sitcoms, bringing in one-off “wacky” characters could either punch up an episode or feel pointless (as here).

5. Gender, Friendship, and Conversation Differences

[50:55–55:06]

• Spirited debate over whether women discuss the details of their sex lives more openly with friends than men do.
  • Will: “Girls talk about that stuff with other girls way more than guys talk about that stuff with other guys.” [51:16]
  • Ryder: “I feel like my wife tends to know the regularity of everybody else's sex life, because women talk about that.” [53:01]
  • Danielle: Pushes back, raising the stereotype of men not having deep conversations, and the group discusses the “rules” of male friendship.
• Universal agreement that as teens, these conversations—all the details—were very common.
  • Danielle: “So much about why you share that stuff though is like, where else are you supposed to learn it?” [55:06]

6. Television vs Reality: The Homeownership “Snapshot”

[81:14–83:46]

• The hosts listen to a TikTok/Instagram reel that breaks down the math behind Cory and Topanga’s house struggle in 1999 vs 2025.
  • Median Philly home price: $80,000 (1999) vs $250,000 (2025); income growth (only 53%) lags well behind housing (over 200% increase) [82:19–83:43].
  • Will: "The thing... that Alan and Amy are talking about and want Cory and Topanga to experience... It's almost unattainable. You can't really do that anymore." [83:52]
  • Powerful moment contrasting the perceived “normal struggles” of the 90s with current economic realities, and the lost possibility for today’s young adults to “work their way up.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Metrosexual was always... just actually caring about your hygiene." — Danielle [04:35]
• "The idea of what masculinity is, is so ridiculous when it comes to stuff like this." — Will [06:29]
• “He’s six and a half…his shirt’s immediately ripped off…and I’m like, why don't you have a shirt on? And he’s like, I just like it.” — Danielle (about her son’s 'looksmaxxing') [07:31]
• “Social media has just amped up everybody’s obsession with looks and superficial, you know, presentation in general. It’s distorting their brain.” — Ryder [10:24]
• “I keep a list...of all these words, and I use them all the time, and it pisses them off. And then he stops using them.” — Ryder [13:22]
• "There’s a moment with the two of you on the couch...this is like real love." — Ryder (on Cory & Topanga’s dynamic) [26:22]
• “Those are some of the happiest times of my life...I learned so many of our incredible skills about budgeting and communication and so many good things came from that experience.” — Danielle [31:41]
• "It's admirable. If the world just ended with her wedding day...it would've been like the Cinderella story...Whereas now it's something..." — Ryder (on the show’s move beyond 'happily ever after') [34:08]
• "The most pointless storyline and character we've ever had on the show. Like, ever. The bear had more to do." — Will (on the B story) [70:44]
• “The monkey storyline sounds like a fully fledged wonderful character developed piece of art compared to this.” — Ryder [71:17]
• “Just when I think they can’t top themselves, they do. There’s another bottom to this barrel.” — Danielle & Ryder [72:01–72:07]
• “You want an actual guess? I would say 2% of our listeners know about clavicular.” — Danielle [76:20]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:42] — Start of looksmaxxing, Gen Z slang, generational language segment
• [14:22] — Hosts recall their own slang from the 80s/90s
• [24:45] — Official episode recap/setup
• [25:24] — Initial reactions to “Picket Fences”—A and B story breakdowns
• [31:00] — Danielle’s family story about budgeting and the parallel to the show
• [34:00] — Reflecting on “happily ever after,” marriage, and reality
• [34:51 & 65:03] — Deep dive into the much-criticized B story
• [50:55] — Gender and friendship conversation differences
• [81:14] — Listening session: “Boy Meets World” homeownership math, then and now
• [83:44] — Hosts reflect on the takeaways, generational changes in adulthood

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Additional Podcast Texture

• The episode remains comedic and wry, with frequent asides about personal nostalgia, sitcom tropes, and modern culture.
• The hosts openly mock both their own past work ("the bear had more to do"), and the state of pop youth culture, keeping the episode self-aware and lively throughout.
• Audience engagement: Ryder describes keeping a physical list of his son’s slang to annoy him—a recurring comic motif.

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Summary

This Pod Meets World episode leverages nostalgia, critical insight, and plenty of self-deprecating humor as the hosts revisit "Picket Fences." While praising the authenticity and growth in Cory and Topanga’s adult relationship (and connecting it to broader cultural changes), they also critique the show’s creative fatigue (“B stories” falling flat). Their discussion ranges across then-and-now economic realities, the mutability of youth slang, and how sitcoms reflect (and age alongside) generational expectations. The conversation is brisk, generous, and accessible—perfect for fans seeking both warmth and candor.

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Transcript

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[Will Friedle]

What is looks maxing?

[Ryder Strong]

It's very trendy.

[Will Friedle]

What is that? Is that. Is that a thing?

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, gosh. I mean. But by the way, I have a looks maxer. Adler is just. I see his future.

[Will Friedle]

Like, I don't know if that's A good thing or a bad? Is that a horrible thing? So, Ryder, you know what this is?

[Ryder Strong]

You've heard of this?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, because he has a tween. It's going to be everywhere in just. You know, I'm mewing right now. Yeah, you're mewing. Look at you. Mewing Sigma.

[Will Friedle]

I don't like any of this.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, exactly.

[Will Friedle]

And now I need an Ativan. I don't like any of this. Hey, Will, can you stop mogging?

[Ryder Strong]

Ryder.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, you're totally. Oh, God.

[Ryder Strong]

Does any of this mean I'm. I'm lapping you?

[Danielle Fishel]

You're laughing, Will. You're mocking with your mogging.

[Will Friedle]

It is. It's a kid's language, right? Is this like the 6, 7 thing? Where actually, when you get down to it, it really doesn't. No one knows what it means.

[Ryder Strong]

Hold on.

[Danielle Fishel]

I just. I want to work on my cheekbones.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, God.

[Will Friedle]

Is that a thing?

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, they take hammers to their face.

[Danielle Fishel]

Take hammers or hard objects to their face to create micro fractures so that certain parts, like, it's all about manliness. Look, ma. Looks maxers are.

[Ryder Strong]

You got to have a jawline.

[Danielle Fishel]

Who have decided that in order to avoid being an incel, they are going to maximalize their beauty. And so.

[Will Friedle]

So metrosexual.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, that. Yeah, that. I guess we've had multiple different.

[Ryder Strong]

2002.

[Will Friedle]

Exactly. Metrosexual, you rebranded.

[Ryder Strong]

Metrosexual was always. Yeah, okay.

[Will Friedle]

And then in the 70s, it was just being in touch with your femininity.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, no, no. Metrosexual, to be fair, was a little bit like, just actually caring about your hygiene. A little bit like, oh, I trim my beard hairs, I do my hair, I brush my teeth.

[Will Friedle]

Also, like, guys starting to wear, like, base makeup and, like, you could wear a little bit of makeup and stuff like that. That was metrosexual, I thought.

[Ryder Strong]

No, no, the idea was just for. For straight men to actually care about what they look like. That's all. That, and that's why the word went away is because once men started, it was like this. There's no longer a hetero homo distinction. There's just looking good and they're just taking care of. That's why the word, the metrosexual just went away.

[Will Friedle]

So the word. So the way to make yourself manly is by breaking your cheekbones with something.

[Danielle Fishel]

So decided that, like, all high testosterone, things like broad shoulders, high cheekbones, chiseled jaw, you know, low body fat, like, just that kind of stuff is ultimately the most important part of being high on the evolution. Food Chain. And so to be an alpha. And so these guys, there's all the lingo of this young, young generation. Mogging is to. To up. Upstage someone with your beauty. So say we took a group picture, like Will or Ryder could be mogging the other one based on who looks more manly, like, who's got broader shoulders, who's got sharper cheekbones. And these people who looks maxers take it extremely far. Plastic surgery, hitting testosterone.

[Ryder Strong]

They're hitting their face. They're like, yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Having hair transplants if they don't like their hairline.

[Will Friedle]

The idea of what masculinity is is so ridiculous when it comes to stuff like this. So essentially, we've just gone back to Jersey Shore a little bit.

[Danielle Fishel]

A little bit like Jersey Shore? Yeah, a little bit.

[Will Friedle]

With that gto taking what you got to take. Gym, tan, laundry. It's just about how you look.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And, you know, it's the facial features and cutting down the body fat. We've gone back to just Jersey Shore.

[Angela Yee]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

Next generation. Good luck for your kids. Well, the situation. The situation in this case is a guy named Clavicular.

[Ryder Strong]

He's like the main guy who also

[Will Friedle]

may have taken Clavicular.

[Danielle Fishel]

Clavicular.

[Will Friedle]

That sounds like something you need to take a pill for.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's taken from his clavicle. He wants to have sharp clavicles.

[Will Friedle]

This is a thing. What?

[Ryder Strong]

We're done.

[Will Friedle]

We're done, guys. We're done.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm moving forward.

[Danielle Fishel]

My biggest issue with it is that I read it, and I was like, oh, God. Adler doesn't know what a looks maxer is, but Adler is like, kind of.

[Ryder Strong]

I love the show. What? He really cares about what he looks like.

[Danielle Fishel]

And, like, yeah, he cares about what he looks like. And he's like, I just want abs. I want it. What? Mom? I want to, like, I gotta get. Oh, I gotta get abs. And like, six. He's six and a half. And he. Anytime he comes, like, he goes anywhere even remotely home adjacent, his shirts immediately ripped off. And he's. And I'm like, why? Why don't you have a shirt on? And he's like, I just. I just like it.

[Will Friedle]

He's just like, oh, man, is he gonna get a try? Is he gonna get a tribal henna?

[Danielle Fishel]

He plays.

[Will Friedle]

He would.

[Bowen Yang]

He would.

[Danielle Fishel]

For sure he would. If he saw a guy with a big bicep and a tribal henna tat. If he saw, he'd be like, I want that. The other day I said. He was like, so, what do I have tomorrow? And it was Wednesday and I. No, it was Tuesday. He was asking. And so he was asking about Wednesday and I said, you have tutoring. He has a reading tutor. And. And he's like, oh, man, I don't care about reading. I don't care about math. All I want to be is strong and athletic. Just full set.

[Ryder Strong]

You can't be that surprised. You guys watched wrestling with him since he was like two. Sure.

[Will Friedle]

You could also take the theatricality about. About wrestling. You could take the kind of my parent, my mom's, and look at the theatricality behind the wrestling. So, like, I want that essence of

[Ryder Strong]

wrestling is that you're fighting one another in an athletic competition.

[Will Friedle]

Well, again, yeah, but that's fighting.

[Ryder Strong]

But you're not getting together to like rap battle or, you know, what you're doing against each other is beating the crap out of each other. So it's not surprising that he's going to care about physical stuff. He's going to think that that's the highest value.

[Bowen Yang]

Keaton had the same situation was set

[Ryder Strong]

up in the same way and he's just straight up gesture maxing.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. God.

[Ryder Strong]

All these words.

[Will Friedle]

That's.

[Ryder Strong]

That's. That's more. Yeah. Indy does all of this as a completely a joke. Like, ironically, like he is constantly, but he knows all the terms. They're all talking about it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, they're all.

[Will Friedle]

So you know what, in the 90s would have just been a douche twat to bring back a word. Now we're making. Is now a maxi looks maxer.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, it would have been.

[Will Friedle]

It kind of would have been.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, truthfully, it probably would have been a jock. It's. Yeah.

[Bowen Yang]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

But that's the thing. I would argue that most jocks that I knew cared more about winning and competition and their sport than they cared about how they looked doing it. Yeah, that was the difference.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm not gonna name names, but let's just say Teen beat crowd. Like, we knew men who were in the Teen Beat scene that that's what they cared about.

[Will Friedle]

Liked being in the Teen Beats.

[Ryder Strong]

Just what they cared about was their clothing and their presentation. And that was the goal, was to, like, be the hottest thing. And like, that was exactly what, like, I couldn't stand to be around.

[Will Friedle]

That's why we would call them douchebags.

[Bowen Yang]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ryder Strong]

But it's always existed. Well, it's always there. It's just.

[Will Friedle]

But it seems like now it's. But it seems like now it's become the thing.

[Ryder Strong]

Like social media has just amped up everybody's obsession with looks and superficial, you know, presentation in general. So, you know, people are way like kids are. I mean, it's distorting their brain to be on a screen and like constantly only be engaging with other people in like this context.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, right. If I cared only about my relationship with you guys through the screen, man, I would look a lot better than I do right now. Like, I would put an effort into it. Right. Like, and so I guess you're right too, because that's reality.

[Will Friedle]

That's all of social media. And everything that, that everybody's doing is. It's a visual medium. So all you're doing is looking and sometimes you're looking very quickly. So if you're just looking at a tile this big, you want abs and whatever, somebody's going to zip by. So you want it to look as good. There's no substance to anything. But we never celebrated that before, at least as a society.

[Danielle Fishel]

I wouldn't say it's being celebrated right now.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, so it's kind of being, it's

[Danielle Fishel]

like it's a little being mocked and it is still, still very, very niche subculture. It is not, it is not a thing that's, you know. Yeah, it's still a niche subculture right now, but it is going to be talked about a lot. Well, that's okay, I think. No, no, this guy clavicular also has a very polarizing presence. He, he's very obviously a person who's willing to do almost anything for likes and clicks and views, including, you know, just behaving like a general awful human being. So this isn't someone that like as of right now is someone most people are looking up to. But I did want to read the tweet because this is the thing that made me see it that was like, wait, I have to, I have to know more about this. This was. And it makes sense if you know, the world. Clavicular was mid jester gooning when a group of foids came and spiked his cortisol levels. Is ignoring the foids while munting and mogging moids more useful than smv Chad fishing in the club.

[Ryder Strong]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

I got club.

[Ryder Strong]

I think I got like 40 of that.

[Danielle Fishel]

You got 40?

[Will Friedle]

40.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So it is, it's just, it's a full on language.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a, it really is a full on language, full subculture with its own language that soon, I do think for better or worse, whether it's because it ends up being heralded or it becomes something People rebuke. It's going the. It'll be in the lexicon for all of us. We won't be. It'll be the. No, six, seven.

[Ryder Strong]

I know, but it'll be dated very quickly.

[Danielle Fishel]

It will.

[Ryder Strong]

That's the thing. These things are happening. Like, it's like culture has gotten more intense.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

More quickly. And then it sort of fades away. Just. I feel like it's going to be, like, already six, seven. Feels like last year's thing.

[Will Friedle]

Totally.

[Ryder Strong]

And, like, you know, that's what I love is, like, the more the adults start using all. That's why every time I write down everything that Indy says.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I keep a list, literally on my fridge of all these words, and I use them all the time, and it pisses them off. And then he stops using them. You know, like, it becomes like, if. The second I make it dorky because I'm absorbing it, it's over. And, like, because. Because. And I think that's the way these things go. Like, there are certain ones, like, man, bro has really taken over.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Every. We just say bro all the time. Which. There was a period when he was like, six or seven. When I was like, six, seven. When he. I was like. Yeah. He still points out, like, license plates. He'll be like, six, seven. He'll be like. You see that? Six, seven. Like, Indy. That means nothing. It means nothing. Why is that a thing?

[Danielle Fishel]

Adler says, yo.

[Ryder Strong]

But anyway, bro took over.

[Will Friedle]

These are 80s bros. Let's come back.

[Danielle Fishel]

I have an 80s bro.

[Ryder Strong]

It's just teenagers, man. That's when you were aware of teenage culture. Because you were a teenager.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, but I played one on tv. Right?

[Ryder Strong]

It's always the. It's like, that's just. It's just teenage culture. They have to invent their own language. They have to separate, isolate themselves from their parents and, like, break the rules and come up with their own thing.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, so what was yours? What were both of yours. What was your six, seven? Or what was the thing that you and your friend said all the time? What was your vernacular?

[Ryder Strong]

Hella was a Norcal. Crusty.

[Will Friedle]

Crusty.

[Ryder Strong]

We called good weed killer Koosh. Oh, I had. We had a whole language, dude. Yeah, dude.

[Angela Yee]

We used to.

[Ryder Strong]

We used to. We used to say, if. I don't know. But this was a very localized thing. But we used to have, like. If. If somebody was, like, an adult was acting really weird, we'd go, unhappy Mac. Nam. And like, that was our way to say to one another, like, right. Wa. Unhappy Macnam.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, I could Happy Macnam.

[Ryder Strong]

Yep. No idea. That was Ed. Like, man, like, if I said that to Shiloh right now, he would lose his. Because

[Danielle Fishel]

unhappy. Send him a voice note. I'm dying to see what he responds back. We had. I mean, I was, you know, 80s, early 90s dude. Rad, right?

[Will Friedle]

East coast, west coast, totally different Beans.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, yeah, cool beans. Somebody just said that to me in a. In an email, and I was like, what?

[Danielle Fishel]

What?

[Ryder Strong]

Cool beans.

[Bowen Yang]

Cool beans.

[Ryder Strong]

Let's bring that back.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, easy there. A lot. And then you'd add a word like, easy there, tough guy. Easy there. All star. Yeah, easy there. All star. You know, we did that a lot.

[Danielle Fishel]

Don't have a cow.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Don't have a cowboy.

[Ryder Strong]

Think about how often we used to quote movies. That's all they're doing with memes. Like, when we used to sit around and be like, we would quote. What did we quote, Will? We quoted so many. But, like, weird ones, too. Like, so I married an axe murderer.

[Danielle Fishel]

We

[Ryder Strong]

was a big one.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Don't go in there. Yeah. Austin Powers.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Hello, baby.

[Ryder Strong]

How much? Mike Myers. Because Mike Myers did Wayne's World, which was super quotable. He was a master of, like, coming up with those catchphrases that, you know, people would just get addicted to.

[Danielle Fishel]

Are you sending the. Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. What am I. What am I saying?

[Danielle Fishel]

Say I'm doing the podcast.

[Will Friedle]

I wouldn't give it any context.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, just send it.

[Will Friedle]

Just send it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Full send.

[Ryder Strong]

All right. So how do I do a voice thing? I don't do that.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. There's a video, There's a microphone.

[Ryder Strong]

Unhappy Macnam. All right. I'm just setting that to Shiloh. The irony of talking about clavicular when writer can't send a voicemail. It's not lost. I'll let you know.

[Danielle Fishel]

Let me know how that respond, how that goes. It's very funny.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, he's probably just gonna write lol or. Yeah, I'm trying to think. We had so many other ones. Like, Sebastopol had its very particular weird language. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying. I. You know who I should really ask is Nate Brewer. He was the king of that. Nate Brewer and Aaron Grail defined our leg.

[Angela Yee]

Right?

[Danielle Fishel]

You tried. That was.

[Ryder Strong]

That one never caught on. That was.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, we tried.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, we tried.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, man.

[Ryder Strong]

All right, we'll see.

[Danielle Fishel]

We'll see what he says. Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fishel.

[Ryder Strong]

I'm Ryder Strong.

[Will Friedle]

And I'm Will Vicular. Just smorching on the Tim Tam. That's right.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

You mean cure like the way you cure something with a light, you know, like.

[Will Friedle]

I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

I think it's actually cure like a disease? Yeah, cure that squeak in your teeth. Shin tins.

[Ryder Strong]

Shin tins, yeah.

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

We all know how you feel about the beast story.

[Danielle Fishel]

And just a well placed silence goes a long way.

[Ryder Strong]

I just want that that clip forever. The way you just read at the student union. Crickets. That was great. Oh my God.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh my gosh. It was directed by Jerry Levine. It was written by Erica Montalfo. Before I jump into our guest stars, I've shared my overall thoughts. Does anyone want to share Theirs.

[Will Friedle]

I think we're all agreed right now. Once again, the A story was good, but it was the same as last week. Rusty's also way worse this week than he was last week. And the B story is unwatchable.

[Ryder Strong]

It was funny how we predicted some of these things during our recap, the

[Danielle Fishel]

Friends, which was so nice.

[Ryder Strong]

We predicted and because we just actually remembered maybe, you know, it was somewhere deeper. But yes, like, a lot we, we. I mean, to be fair, like, a lot of the things that we said should happen did pretty much happen and. Or. Or were. Were said. You know, the things were said that we were like, why aren't they saying this? They did.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't know. Like, the episode really bothered me for the first half and then something happened and I was like, okay, I guess away. And you know, I do think this is the Corey Topanga season.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

And like, you two as like a duo, like, that's cool. You know, it doesn't always work. Like, I. I don't think they take advantage of it enough. But like, I totally forgot this dynamic.

[Danielle Fishel]

Me too. 100%.

[Ryder Strong]

And then there's some really great moments, like you two on the couch. There's like one there. That one scene in the. In the, in the living in your apartment. It's. It's long and it goes all over the place. But there's a moment with the two of you on the couch where I was like, oh, wow, this is like real love. This is nice. It's well acted. It's simple. It's not for the sake of a plot. And I was like, wow, I have never seen this Cory and Topanga.

[Will Friedle]

It was adult.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

It seemed like to me. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

And it felt calm. It felt non chaotic. There's a lot of Cory and Topanga dynamic stuff that just feels like frenetic and that. I know exactly what you're talking about. It felt very honest, like we were listening to each other, Right?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And not. And then the scene proceeds for you guys to do like a bit like a little fight. And that's fine. But that moment on the couch was just like, ah, I'm watching two people in love, two characters in love be together and talking about their life. And I was like, that's cool. They're more of. That would have been nice, you know, throughout the whole season or the show.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Because it makes sense. It makes you like Cory and Topanga away anyway, you know, I. It's something that I think I've always taken for granted throughout these recaps. Is. I don't know. Like, I just never. I never thought of the Cory Topanga thing as like the essence of Boy Meets World. And it was. In a lot of ways, it's like one of the main pillars. And I think part of the reason it became like the pillar is because of this season, which I forgot. Like, this season just is about, you know, it's why Girl Meets World. It was what it was. Because this season sets up Girl Meets World. It's about Cory and Topanga living on their own, being. Trying to figure out being adults in this world.

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[Ryder Strong]

It's really weird, though, that, like, there's that moment when the parents literally are like, congratulations, you are a grown up.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, so this was all a test. But then I'm like, no, but if you go back to season one, there were moments like this. You always have to.

[Will Friedle]

It's all about the lesson.

[Ryder Strong]

It's your sin. Yeah. It's just really heavy handed and manipulative to think about, like, parents going this far extreme to be like, now you're a grown up, up married person. It's weird, but it's very, you know, it's.

[Will Friedle]

Was there. Was Bill not in this?

[Danielle Fishel]

He had finals. Yeah, you're right.

[Ryder Strong]

Is he really not right?

[Will Friedle]

I don't think he was in this. Okay, what were you gonna say? I'm sorry to interrupt. It just popped into my head.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, I was. I was just gonna say I did. I feel the same way. Writer. Especially that part where he says, you know, he asks, well, would you have come to help me fix the pipes? And he's like, no.

[Will Friedle]

It's like, no.

[Danielle Fishel]

Why?

[Will Friedle]

Why? Teach you a lesson? Yeah. You're not gonna help me plumb. Like, that's a dad thing. Wild.

[Danielle Fishel]

Also, having help doesn't take away from the fact that you do something yourself. Like, having help doesn't mean you don't have the sense of accomplishment. I know, but I did. At least under. I did love the line and I would have. Your mother and I fell in love because we knew we were capable and I never would have taken that opportunity away from you. Loved that idea that sometimes. Because my parents talk about this too. Even though, you know, married for 30 years and then divorced and ruined my life. Just kidding. My life was not ruined. I just think my family was a fraud, but that doesn't ruin my life.

[Will Friedle]

It seems like this is a different, more intense pre show chatter.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Maybe we should have talked about this instead of therapy. No.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

No. My parents, when they got married at 21, had practically zero money. They truly. My dad was a full time college student. He was putting himself through college and he was working two part time jobs to pay for college. So he would go to school full time during the day and then one of his jobs was cleaning a bakery from midnight to 4am oh my God. And then he had a setting up another business job from like 5am to 9am and then he would get to sleep on some days and, and then go to school all day. And my mom was working at a bank and so they had, they had. I love this story. They had $20 each to spend total on food for the week. If that the same story.

[Will Friedle]

I can't wait.

[Danielle Fishel]

Groceries or if they were had to eat out or get something on the go because of the schedule, they couldn't come home to eat. They had $20 a week and then whatever they could save from that $20 a week, they put in their individual pots to buy each other a Christmas gift.

[Ryder Strong]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

That's how it should. My parents are the same. There's a famous story in our family where they had such a small food budget that my dad surprised my mom their first year and he bought a beef tenderloin and my mom cried because she's like, it's our whole budget.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. Why'd you do this?

[Will Friedle]

Like, we've got, this is what we're eating now for a month. We've got nothing else.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. So beef tenderloin last a week. Yeah, Stretch it out.

[Danielle Fishel]

But like when my mom remembers those times and remembers thinking in the moment, this sucks. This is hard. I hate this. I can't live like this. This is really difficult. And then, you know, my dad graduated from college with a business degree and worked his way up. And before long they were upper middle class and had two kids in a beautiful house. And my mom looked back at those years and said, those are some of the happiest times of my life. Yes, they were incredibly hard in the moment. But like I look back at that and we learned so many of our incredible skills about budgeting and communication and so many good things came from that experience. And I loved that that was his message that like he and Amy had that and he knew that that's what was on the other side of it and he didn't want to take that away from them by just giving them the easy way out.

[Will Friedle]

Now, I agree with everything you said. I think they killed it with the character where when he says, would you have come to help me plumb rusty

[Danielle Fishel]

should have said, of course, Absolutely.

[Will Friedle]

I'll always give you my knowledge. Like if I know how to fix something, of course I'm gonna help you do that. That's all. You're always my son and I'm always gonna be teaching you how to be a man. That's all you need. But instead, like, no, I'm not gonna come and help you. It was like, I know what.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, this was, you know, like, I feel like we've talked a little bit about this and then some people have pointed out to us that like the show is from Corey's point of view, you know, like that whole reading of. And when I, that that's what I feel like this episode really spoke to, to me is like it fell into this like, oh, this is about Cory growing up. This is the show about, you know, an 11 year old boy who's in trouble at school and, you know, no one pays attention to him figuring life out. And like, if I thought about it in those ways, it's like a cartoonish because it's so over the top, you know, that a parent would actually do this to their son. But then I was like, oh, but it's, it, it fits, it fits the show. It fits the narrative of Boy Meets World. You go all the way back. So I was like, cool, you know, and, and I think that like the, like you guys are saying it's a nice lesson, you know, like, and it's, it's especially nice because it counterbalances all the. We were meant for to be together. We're gonna, you know, it's like the whole idea of ever after. Right. Like once we get married, everything's great. And like the, the fact that our show tackled the idea of like, no, it's hard.

[Will Friedle]

Like, you know, it's the fantasy versus the reality.

[Ryder Strong]

Exactly. Admirable.

[Will Friedle]

That's a great, A great world just

[Ryder Strong]

ended with her wedding day. And that was the last episode. It would have been like the Cinderella story. Would have been nothing, you know, Whereas like now it's something. It's like it's, it's, it's, it's at least attempting to wrestle with really great big issues.

[Will Friedle]

Well, you also said something really interesting, which is that it's, it's what it was obviously where Girl Meets World came from. You could easily have had Boy Meets World not existed. You easily could have gone in and pitched this show, Corey and Topanga together, and pitched it as it's mad about you at 19.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, totally.

[Will Friedle]

And it, and it would have worked. I mean, that's that would have been a whole different sitcom, but it absolutely would have worked. And I couldn't agree more about Cory and Topanga being very likable and very real. And there was a couple moments where it was like, that's not so good. But the rest of it was great. And then there's the B story.

[Ryder Strong]

And then B story. Oh, and I am horrible in this episode, too. Yeah. I hated my. I'm like, so just not into it. I can tell.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm just. I only thought you were not into it in the scene with Trina where you're laying. No, where you're like, at the end. At the very end, where you're like.

[Ryder Strong]

That was the only one. I was like, oh, okay. At least I'm in that scene.

[Danielle Fishel]

I loved the scene of you in Cory and Topanga's apartment where you're having the conversation with him about, like. Wait, no, stop. Why would you not fix this up? I thought you were great in that scene.

[Podcast Guest or Analyst]

I agree.

[Ryder Strong]

I didn't. It's so funny. I could tell I was just badly acting, but.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, you think?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

This was the most real I've ever been.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Was this. Was this grounded?

[Danielle Fishel]

It was nice to see you tone it down.

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[Will Friedle]

The subtext next was there.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

It's not only that, but when Nicole said to us I was supposed to do multiple episodes, I didn't realize how blatant it was going to be where she clearly. It didn't end. Like, there was no ending to the B story. No, I mean, I went down.

[Danielle Fishel]

She's got to do two, right?

[Will Friedle]

Did she do she do it? No, I think.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought she ended up doing two of the three episode arc, I hope.

[Will Friedle]

Because if that's the end. No, no. Because isn't the next one. The next one I saw pop up? It's called what a Drag. I think that's where Eric.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And Jack dress like girls. She's not in that. This was it, I think.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Jensen just said, nope, she's gone. Wow. The fact that he blamed the B storyline not working on her is wild.

[Ryder Strong]

Wait, wait, who did what? Who blamed this on her?

[Danielle Fishel]

Nicole said when we had her. Because Nicole's a formal former POD meets world guest, she said Michael kept telling her all week, you're not doing what I want you to do. You're not getting it. You're not getting it. And then when he cut. When he took the three episode arc away from her, he was like, because you just. You're Not. You're not getting it.

[Will Friedle]

What was there to get?

[Danielle Fishel]

Also, she plays that character.

[Ryder Strong]

She's great.

[Danielle Fishel]

Perfectly.

[Ryder Strong]

She was great.

[Will Friedle]

And the dynamic between her and Jack could have gone somewhere. Eric in the background. Hello, maybe. Hello, my honey. Hello, my rag. Time. And it was like, what the hell happening? This is two in a row that are unwatchable.

[Danielle Fishel]

B stories.

[Will Friedle]

Awful. Awful.

[Ryder Strong]

That's so. Yeah. It's so crazy. I mean, also, like you'd already done all of this with Rachel. Like we did a whole season and

[Danielle Fishel]

then last week they did this with triplets.

[Ryder Strong]

So this, this notion of like maybe we introduce a female character and that messes up Jack and. And Eric. What?

[Will Friedle]

What?

[Ryder Strong]

Like we've done so many versions of this. Like. No, at least. I mean. Well, say what you want about the monkey storyline. Yeah. At least it was something coming in.

[Danielle Fishel]

I liked the monkey storyline because at least it was about two friends who were wildly different, helping challenge each other to rise to the occasion of adulthood.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes. Okay. Something.

[Will Friedle]

It's something. Yeah, this is. And I get the pitch for this. Let's bring in a female Jack.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, great. Yep.

[Will Friedle]

That's. I understand that. Really good looking, kind of smarmy from a rich, total spoiled rich brat. Wow, that could be an interesting story. And then they did this and it was like, what the hell is going on? And maybe this is the whole thing of. Well, it would have made sense if she was there for three episodes. I mean, you've got Nicole Eggert. You've got an 80s and 90s television mainstay who is doing really well. Sorry. With what she's given. And. And for something else was going on that we don't know about. Correct.

[Danielle Fishel]

Something else is. Something else was happening. Because it does. It makes zero sense.

[Will Friedle]

Something else is going on.

[Danielle Fishel]

Jumping into our guest stars. Former pod meets world guest. As I mentioned, Nicole Eggert is. Bridget Eggert burst onto the scene in another Michael Jacobs show, Charles in Charge as Jamie Powell. She also appeared in seven episodes of who's the Boss? And would later dawn the iconic red swimsuit as a lifeguard on Baywatch. If you remember, Nicole told us during her appearance that she was originally told this role would have a three episode arc, but was axed after this one.

[Will Friedle]

So I didn't see where they could add to it. I think it ended perfectly.

[Angela Yee]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Had a nice button.

[Will Friedle]

Nice little.

[Danielle Fishel]

Nice little button. Nice little button on that story. And then Marisol Nichols returns for her second episode as Kelly. We talked about her last week. Probably best known as the Audrey Griswold. In Vegas vacation and from her time on Riverdale. And Joanne Worley is Mrs. Stevens. Worley is famous in the generation of those who maybe loved the monkeys and watched Happy Days. She was one of the stars of Laugh In, a massive comedy variety show that ran from 1968 to 1973.

[Ryder Strong]

What was laughing? It was like a. Did you watch it, Will? It was.

[Will Friedle]

Well, no, I was. I was very young in 68. It was

[Ryder Strong]

all old TV. I don't know, man.

[Danielle Fishel]

I didn't watch.

[Will Friedle]

It's like one of those variety shows. What is?

[Ryder Strong]

There used to be variety shows.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, Sunny and Cher show.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, all variety. I never saw any of the music guests.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's when you had to be a triple threat to be in entertainment. It's so cool.

[Ryder Strong]

Original stuffing, right? Like that should still be a thing.

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[Danielle Fishel]

Sabrina's Christmas special is a bit of a variety show.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, definitely.

[Will Friedle]

Sabrina's Muppets.

[Ryder Strong]

Sabrina's Muppets.

[Danielle Fishel]

Sabrina's Muppets show. Yes. Yes. People who can do it all. We used to do hour long shows that were wildly entertaining.

[Will Friedle]

Like the Osmond.

[Ryder Strong]

Carol Burnett too. Right. Like she.

[Will Friedle]

That's like a variety show.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, they've tried it.

[Will Friedle]

They've tried it. The Osbournes had one. Jessica. Nick Lachey had one. I mean, it's failed a couple times.

[Ryder Strong]

It just doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't work anymore.

[Will Friedle]

It doesn't translate anymore. But.

[Danielle Fishel]

But kids. TV fans may recognize her as Aunt Beulah on Sabrina the Teenage Witch or Maggie on Wizards of Waverly Place. She would also morph into a voiceover legend. She was wardrobe in the 1991 Beauty and the Beast movie, Ms. Maples in the Goofy movie and a co worker of Will's on Kim Possible.

[Will Friedle]

Was she.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's what it says.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, God. I loved working with her. I remember it well.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, great.

[Will Friedle]

We never recorded with anybody. There's three of us in the room. Yeah.

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Angela Yee]

This is Angela Yee from Way up with Angela Yee, y'.

[Danielle Fishel]

All.

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[Danielle Fishel]

Jumping into our recap. We are in Angela, Rachel and Shawn's apartment. I can't wait till we get to the.

[Ryder Strong]

Jesus Christ.

[Will Friedle]

I thought it was so funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

We just made so much fun of it at the end of the last episode about not being able to keep track and then being like, all right, so now it's this. All right, let's remember. And then the next episode.

[Ryder Strong]

Who's in, who's out, who's coming, who's in?

[Will Friedle]

It's now Feeny, Mr. Turner and the monkey from season.

[Ryder Strong]

We need one of those, like, investigation boards with all the lines, the red

[Will Friedle]

stream, all the red, just to track who's where.

[Ryder Strong]

The apartment. Like, if one of our listeners wants to dive deep and write out a diagram of this apartment.

[Danielle Fishel]

A family tree of a family tree

[Ryder Strong]

going all the way back to Turner's. Yeah, yeah. The same Apartment. Let's be honest.

[Will Friedle]

It's have. Has every character, not the adults, but all the younger characters. Has every character lived with every other character at some point? Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, that's such. Everybody's. And everybody. Every one of us has lived in this apartment.

[Danielle Fishel]

Has lived in the apartment.

[Will Friedle]

Wait till Cory lived in the apartment. When did Cory live in the apartment?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, that's right. I guess he's.

[Ryder Strong]

He's.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, that's right.

[Ryder Strong]

That was last episode. He was. He was expecting to live there and then. Yeah, he's there. I mean, he's the kid in this one. We take him out. Oh my God.

[Danielle Fishel]

So Sean and Angela are setting the table for dinner, catching up on their day. Angela gives him a kiss and asks, are the kids all tucked in? He grins. All tucked in. Mommy and Daddy can have some together time. The inmates hoot and holler at the innuendo. And now at the dinner table, Angela wonders, when was the last time we had a moment alone? Shawn notes, certainly before the kids came. Angela lets out a sigh. Yeah, life was better then. On cue, Cory and Topanga walk out of their bedroom, frowning and wearing button up PJs. Shawn admits, Honey, I hate the kids. Corey complains, we're still hungry. And Topanga's eyes widen as she points at the dining room table and yells like a caveman, spaghetti. The couple sprints to the food, and Corey cheerfully wonders, do you have any baked goods or frozen treats? Angela is not amused. You're our closest friends, but we are sick and tired of you. Shawn adds, please get out and don't ever come back. Cory and Topanga focus on spoonfuls of spaghetti, and Corey laughs. They crack me up, these two. But Topanga gets the message. Maybe we should go back to our. Corey asks Hole. Our dump. Our sewer. Shawn steps in. We'd love to hang out with you guys forever, but right now you're on this new marriage thing and we're on this new living together thing. Angela tries to relate. They're both couples. They're the same. But.

[Angela Yee]

But.

[Danielle Fishel]

Shawn adds, you're married and we're happy. Shawn puts his foot down. Get out. They're serious. Corey nods. They understand. In fact, they never want to impose on their little life of sin.

[Ryder Strong]

This is such a weird turn.

[Danielle Fishel]

So weird.

[Ryder Strong]

Life of calling us sluts.

[Danielle Fishel]

Sluts is wild.

[Will Friedle]

Sluts is harsh.

[Danielle Fishel]

Is harsh. I know.

[Ryder Strong]

I also don't understand, like, I still am. Like. So Sean moved into a different room than Angela. Yes, because there's three bedrooms and you're not married. His own bedroom.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

In the same apartment with his girlfriend.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right. But now I think he's living.

[Will Friedle]

You're sleeping on the floor in Angela's room.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

Because you're not married to Pangaea.

[Ryder Strong]

But now we're kick you out. And I'm going to go back to

[Danielle Fishel]

that empty room that you were supposed. I can have my own room. Honestly, I do think the key to a happy marriage is separate houses. I'm just going to throw that out there. Topanga venomously spits out, you make me sick. Corey scowls. Sluts. Is this. Is this the closest thing to a curse word we get? The D triplets and then sluts.

[Will Friedle]

And then. And maybe when she says, I wouldn't use this to wipe my ass. Those three things. And it's all season seven. We're all Phase D. Funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

They start their exit still wearing PJs, and Topanga explains they'll just hang out with their other friends. Corey asks, you think you're our only friends in the world? Topanga pipes in, well, you're not. And Corey adds, because we are a beloved couple. Shawn shuts the door in their faces without a second thought.

[Will Friedle]

It was strange to watch this. That part of the scene, knowing you had to pee.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's right.

[Will Friedle]

This is one of our outtakes. Is you right out there going, like, I have to pee. So I'm watching the scene the whole time going, daniel, he has to pee.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's hilarious. Outside in the hallway, Corey whispers to Topanga, you got any other friends? She responds, no. You? He whisper, shouts, no. Why would we do that? What are we going to do now? Topanga has no idea. Then we're in the student union. Angela and Rachel are sitting on the couch giggling, and Rachel confesses, I've never seen you so happy.

[Bowen Yang]

What?

[Danielle Fishel]

What do we think? She whispers to her. Do we think it's some.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, yeah. It's horribly sexy and dirty. Right?

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

Right. In my head. I won't even say, oh, really?

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow. I love that you imagined what they

[Will Friedle]

were crazy stuff, too. Well, everyone's a now. True.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, I did. I did obviously go. She said something sexual about. Yeah, Sean. But I didn't actually go as far as to imagine what it was.

[Will Friedle]

Girls talk about that stuff with other girls way more than guys talk about that stuff with other girls.

[Danielle Fishel]

For sure.

[Will Friedle]

Like, way more. Like it's detail stuff with girls.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, I think that when you're. When you're younger. Yes.

[Angela Yee]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

No.

[Danielle Fishel]

Even. Yes, even. Okay, hold on.

[Will Friedle]

You think now, too?

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hold on, hold on.

[Ryder Strong]

The Amount of detail. Like, I've asked Alex, I've been like, wait, you guys compared notes on. And like. Yes. I'm like, jesus, wow.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wait, do you think it. That's the case if there's like, maybe something they're asking an opinion on? Like, I need. I. I want to share something because I want to know how you guys feel about it.

[Ryder Strong]

Potentially. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay. And not just like, oh, God, you rider had me bent over. Like, not like that. Like, that's just like. We don't do that.

[Ryder Strong]

My wife. My wife. No.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Friends.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes, friends of ours are like that. And in a sort of somewhat jokey way. Or like, they'll talk about hot guys. Like, you know, like, yeah, like in a way that I'm like, I. If my guy friends don't ever talk,

[Will Friedle]

like, no, you and I are very close and we're not having full on graphic sexual conversations. It doesn't happen.

[Ryder Strong]

No.

[Will Friedle]

You know, it's definitely. And women do that. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, hold on. Just. Women do that.

[Will Friedle]

They do, they can.

[Danielle Fishel]

They have. I'm sure. And there are, I think, to writer's point, there are some women who are more comfortable about doing that. I would never. Unless it was. I'm concerned. There's. What are you laughing about?

[Will Friedle]

Do your friends. Do you sit. You have a lot of girlfriends. Will you sit there and they talk about sex stuff?

[Ryder Strong]

No, I, I feel like my wife tends to know the regularity of everybody else's sex life because women talk about that. They talk about how often they're having sex or better or worse. It's like, it's too much. It's too little, whatever that is. A cop of a conversation, which I never have with my guy friends. Like, no one's ever talking about, like, yeah, no, it's, it's.

[Danielle Fishel]

I do have friends that, that will. That will say things about like, I'm in. You know, we're. We have a couple's therapist and it's been really good for us and we, we do now schedule sex, which has been better for us. Like that kind of conversation.

[Ryder Strong]

Sure.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't have any friends that guys

[Ryder Strong]

don't even have that. Let's start. I mean, that's like, that's distinction number one, I don't think. I think really we talk about, you

[Danielle Fishel]

know, as boldly as we're gonna say. Well, women talk about that. I could also very boldly say, well, men's relation, men's male friendships. Do you talk about anything of substance? And yet on this call, I know the answer to Be. Yes, but there are quite.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Quite a few male friendships that actually don't. They talk about, about sports, what happened on the news and, and there's really. That is how they feel like there I had my friend time. But they're not actually talking about emotional feelings or personal. Or personal experiences or relationships.

[Ryder Strong]

That's absolutely true.

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, I think, I think we're

[Will Friedle]

talking about other of their male friends behind one male friend's back.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

That they don't do that either.

[Danielle Fishel]

They don't do that either.

[Ryder Strong]

We don't do anything, you know, But I, but it's interesting because when I think about when I was younger, will like think about being a teenager. You did talk about.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, everything.

[Ryder Strong]

Girls all the time.

[Will Friedle]

Of course. But you talk about that hopefully when you're 19. Right, right.

[Ryder Strong]

But, but that, but you do have like that guy friendship where I mean, like we would talk about sex. Like, we would talk about like then

[Will Friedle]

it's a major part of your life

[Ryder Strong]

when you're in 19 hours old and you're like, okay, right. You know, I don't.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, I don't want to hear about your sex life. Like, I love it, but like, exactly.

[Will Friedle]

I don't know that. Yeah, I don't need to know that.

[Danielle Fishel]

So much about why you share that stuff though is like, where else are you supposed to learn it? You know, like when I remember knowing that my friends had started having. Whether it was kissing or then beyond kissing with guys and it was like, great, thank you. Tell me everything.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

And so you did what with what and how? Like, you have the Internet, so I know exactly.

[Ryder Strong]

Clavicular is telling you how to do it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, God.

[Will Friedle]

I just have Susan sign an NDA every morning, so it's just the easiest

[Danielle Fishel]

way to do a brand new one.

[Will Friedle]

I just have a slack a stack him by the bed and like, here's today's.

[Danielle Fishel]

Here's today's. Okay. Angela can't wipe the smile off her face. That's because I haven't been. And so Rachel reveals. That's why I'm not going to get in the way of you and Shawn. I'm going to move out. All right, here we are again in that same storyline that also didn't make sense the first time. Why does she have to move three bedrooms.

[Ryder Strong]

Three bedrooms. And she's going to get out of the way. So. So it just becomes Sean and Angela's apartment now. Is that really what happens?

[Danielle Fishel]

That's. Yeah, that's what, that's what, that's what happens.

[Will Friedle]

You're gonna double my rent.

[Ryder Strong]

So I don't get. Like, I was watching this episode, and especially by the end, I was like, but wait, Sean and Angela are gonna break up in like 10 episodes? Yeah, like, we don't.

[Will Friedle]

It's so weird.

[Danielle Fishel]

But don't worry, by the end of this episode, you're no longer living there. Yeah, she's no longer.

[Will Friedle]

It doesn't matter anyway because everybody has the pinnacle of marriage, which is just. Just leaning against your partner on some kind of couch and reading a paper. Alan and Amy do it. This is. It's like, this is it. This is ultimate marriage. You're reading over my shoulder and I'm a little sweaty on this side. Sit over there.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Space. Get in. Go to your house.

[Ryder Strong]

Someday you are going to have separate houses.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, I would do it immediately. I would have done it the day we got married. Which house are you going to live in? I love separate houses. Get out of mine. I want just my space. I just. We don't need to share that much.

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[Danielle Fishel]

This podcast is sponsored by Nurture Life. Hey, it's Danielle Fishel from Pod Meats World. And as a mom to two growing boys, I know how chaotic mealtime can get get. No matter how confident I am with what I'm serving them, my kids will always find a way to call the meal gross or stinky or yuck. It's true. They can be wildly picky about new foods. And with my busy schedule, I don't have the time to become America's next Top Chef. And so that's why I love Nurture Life. It's a meal delivery service that actually caters to kids. Ideal for ages 8 months to 8 years, fully cooked and ready to serve in just one minute. It's the problem solver I've been praying for. It's the top meal delivery service for babies, toddlers and kids. And everything is designed by registered dietitians so you can sleep safe knowing your kids are getting the protein, veggies and nutrients they need while still eating favorites like Mac and cheese, spaghetti and meatballs and so much more. Plus, it's allergy friendly, which we know is collect. And when it comes to options, Nurture Life has you covered. There's more than 50 nutritious meals and snacks on their menu. From soft finger foods for babies and toddlers to balanced kids meals for when they get older. Nurture Life does the cooking. They deliver it straight to your door. And then you might even have time to eat something for yourself. So now is the time to head to nurturelife.com pod and use code pod for 50% off your first order, please. Plus free shipping. That's right, 50% off plus free shipping. Once again, that's nurturelife.com pod and make sure you use promo code pod. Even if you aren't a parent with young kids, you might have parent friends who struggle with mealtime. Make sure to share our Code Pod with them. Remember, put your little ones first with healthy meals from Nurture Life. That website one more time is nurturelife.com podcast pod.

[Angela Yee]

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[Danielle Fishel]

All.

[Angela Yee]

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Angela's shocked. She insists Rachel. She's not in the way. Rachel shrugs. I know I'm not, but I got this offer to be a resident advisor at Brittany hall, and I thought it'd be fun. Angela promises she doesn't need to move out. It's not like she and Shawn are a family. Set up, set up, set up up. On cue, Sean is tugged through the door by a massive St. Bernard. I didn't remember this dog being on set at all.

[Ryder Strong]

I loved this dog.

[Danielle Fishel]

Me too.

[Ryder Strong]

This. This began my love for big dogs because I. And I remember, like, hanging out with this dog all week or whatever the couple days. And I remember lying on. On him or her. I guess it was a him. I think it was a him.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I remember lying, like, just. I fell in love with having a big dog, so I ended up, you know, my. The only dog I've ever had as an adult was a Bernese mountain dog. And it was in part because I loved having a big dog because of this.

[Will Friedle]

I remember that. Cuz I couldn't get up in between takes when the dog was lying on me. So the whole time in front of the audience, I just laid there a in between every take with the dog. That dog has been dead for years.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, let's. Thank you for sharing that with us.

[Will Friedle]

No problem.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's a good thought. Look, Angela, I got us a baby. Angela rushes over and pets the cute dog. And Sean notes, now it's like we got our own family. Rachel watches on and just announces, I'm gonna be an R.A. shawn responds, Good for you.

[Ryder Strong]

And it's the weirdest good for you

[Will Friedle]

reaction like, you can't tell. Is he joking? Is he not? It is the strangest reading. It was just like, what?

[Ryder Strong]

This is just for you.

[Danielle Fishel]

The writers just got to a point where they're like, what do we do with this character?

[Ryder Strong]

I don't know.

[Danielle Fishel]

What do we do?

[Ryder Strong]

This whole scene is like a weird, like, sub boy meets world because it's like these three characters just don't belong. Like, in a room together talking, like, it doesn't make any sense.

[Will Friedle]

A weird beat that, yeah, I'm gonna be an R.A. good for you.

[Ryder Strong]

Good for you. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Then the dog barks and rushes out the door, pulling Sean along with him. Angela and Rachel follow closely behind to the park. Then we see Eric, dressed in his work uniform, wiping down a table. A pretty girl walks by, and his mind instantly turns to mush as he follows her. Pretty girl. Pretty girl. She turns around and simply asks him, starts dancing.

[Ryder Strong]

Jump up on the couch.

[Will Friedle]

Jump up on the couch.

[Ryder Strong]

Make it funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

He pulls his top hat off.

[Will Friedle]

Kick the camera on me.

[Ryder Strong]

And roses.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it's. Oh, God. Do you think everything went downhill with these three characters when Jack and Rachel and Eric no longer live together?

[Ryder Strong]

I guess so.

[Will Friedle]

Like, if they just kept them in the same apartment the whole time for the B stories, then maybe Maitland would have something to do and Jack and Eric would have something. The second they split them up, it was like. Like, then what was the point? Because it was supposed to be Corey, Sean, that whole click and then our click. And now you're breaking us up. So what the hell was the point of doing?

[Ryder Strong]

And there's so much more they could have done because they spent so much time just on the love triangle between the three of you. But what if they introduced another guy, another girl? You know, there's things you could have done at that apartment, like, regular, like, apartment living, roommate situations.

[Will Friedle]

You could easily have given Maitland something to do to where it's like, she's with Jack, she really likes Jack, and then all of a sudden, she's starting to have feelings for Eric, and Eric doesn't feel the same way now. And, I mean, there's so many ways to play with that. And they just went, nah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, Well, I definitely. I don't think watching this season of Boy Meets World that what we're missing is more characters. I am not getting the vibe that bringing in another guy into season seven would have helped.

[Will Friedle]

It worked in this episode with Nicole Eggert.

[Angela Yee]

And it.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, it's interesting that we just dropped school completely. Like, there's nothing about.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, college is about education.

[Will Friedle]

We learned 8th grade history last episode.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's true. We learned about the Black Plague.

[Will Friedle]

We learned about the Black Plague. And that's when Alaska became the 50th state. Like, what?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, we couldn't use. I mean, there's a lot to do in college, right? Like, this is just our hangout spot.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

She asks, who's in charge here? Eric creepily responds, you are now do things to me.

[Will Friedle]

Ew. Jesus, ew.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thankfully, Jack intervenes, but he's just as awkward introducing himself as the student union manager. He Boasts that everything she sees is managed by him. The store manager, Eric doesn't appreciate Jack's interruption, so he jumps back in bed. Wetter. You can tell her, Jack. She's gonna find out anyway. Eric finally asks the new girl's name and she matter of factly states, I'm your new boss. Eric still and source old.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, just give her a Southern accent.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's the same storyline, same same story. Eric repeats name, name, name, name, name, name. She composes herself and says, name is Bridget.

[Ryder Strong]

Words over and over to be funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

Pretty girl, pretty girl, pretty girl, pretty girl. Name, name.

[Will Friedle]

I'm just.

[Ryder Strong]

It's all.

[Will Friedle]

It's crazy. It's like what's happening

[Danielle Fishel]

is Bridget Murphy. Eric grabs her hand and kisses it. Murphy, like the bed.

[Will Friedle]

Good line.

[Danielle Fishel]

Jack interjects to understandably say vomit. Eric trudges on. If I may be so bold, how did somebody. I can't even imitate you. How did somebody as you get to be manager of the student union?

[Ryder Strong]

I want to see what this page looked like. What was written in that spot.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep.

[Ryder Strong]

And also I wondered if it was in the script that you take her hand like you do. Right. Because it's such a funny. It's so funny. And I'm like, did Will just do that or is it in the script that he grabs your hand? I don't know. I wanted to see. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

She smiles. I know a guy. Jack asks who. And she brags. Some may call him the chancellor of this university. I, however, like to call him Daddy. Why did anyone on the writing staff think that the chancellor of this university was going to ask, have. Give the audience some sort of like.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, no, not Chancellor Murphy, apparently.

[Ryder Strong]

Murphy.

[Danielle Fishel]

Not Chancellor Murphy. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, it's. None of it being said.

[Ryder Strong]

He said. I know. I mean, really, it should be, you know, my Uncle Feeny, you know, we've already done. Obviously. But like any sort of. Yeah. Because right now there's creating a character.

[Danielle Fishel]

My dad, William. My dad, Alan Matthews.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, shit. His other family.

[Will Friedle]

I don't. Yeah. None of it makes. None of it made any sense. You also wonder if she was supposed to do three episodes and only did this one.

[Danielle Fishel]

Was he gonna come back?

[Will Friedle]

And also like, how. How was it planned? Because if. What a drag is next. Which is clearly Jack and Eric spending their time as. That's the a story is we're dressed like women to avoid a bully. She wasn't in that anyway.

[Danielle Fishel]

Right.

[Ryder Strong]

So she probably was originally. I mean. Yeah. They must have had some plan to have this love triangle going on.

[Will Friedle]

But literally ends with me dropping out of frame to suck her toe. That's the last we see.

[Danielle Fishel]

Stop saying it, please.

[Will Friedle]

That's the last we see.

[Danielle Fishel]

Her.

[Will Friedle]

Me, Danielle. Me sucking on toes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, God.

[Will Friedle]

Or spiders. You've got one room or another room. The last room is just. Is just spiders. And the right room is just me sucking feet. And you've got to pick one. Which room do you take? You got to take one.

[Danielle Fishel]

I take the toe room, absolutely.

[Ryder Strong]

But, boy, oh, boy, I don't want

[Danielle Fishel]

to think about it.

[Ryder Strong]

She'd be vomiting the whole time. Oh, God.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, God.

[Ryder Strong]

Should we look up Nicole Eggard on wicked feet? Wicked feet or wiki feet? Wiki feet. Whatever we got.

[Danielle Fishel]

Eric leans in and seductively quips, I like to call him Daddy, too. Jack grabs his friend by the ear with a warning. Her father is Chancellor Murphy.

[Ryder Strong]

Scooby Doo, do not Chancellor her mask off. I'm Chancellor Murphy.

[Will Friedle]

Would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for you metal kids.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, man. Bridget laughs. That's right, boys. Nepotism rears its ugly head. Eric huffs and complains, Nepotism. It's nepotism. Jack sees right through him. You don't even know what that means. Eric instantly shouts, why should I? Bridget's happy to explain. I own you. I can do anything I want with you. And I probably will, because I'm a spoiled little brat who always gets her way. Just thanks. Tell for. Tell us who you are. Right.

[Okta AI Agent (Ad/Promo Voice)]

Object.

[Ryder Strong]

Like, literally. Well, think about the first line she's. Eric says is, if you're in charge, I'll do whatever you want. Or, you know, it's like. And it seems like a joke, but that is the extent of the story. That is the extent of the story. It's like, it's. There's no nuance. There's no human character.

[Danielle Fishel]

Nothing.

[Ryder Strong]

There's no regular behavior. It's just literally, like.

[Danielle Fishel]

Also, her arrival and presence doesn't change. Change either one of them in the slightest. Like, there isn't some nothing, just nothing.

[Will Friedle]

It's the most pointless storyline and character we've ever had on the show. Like, ever. The bear had more to do.

[Ryder Strong]

So weird.

[Danielle Fishel]

Eric seems excited by this, but Jack keeps him grounded. They sit down next to her on the couch and simultaneously cross their legs. Eric announces, so far, I don't hear anything I don't like, Like. She nods. Good. Go clean the toilets. He giggles and runs off. Thank you. What are you laughing about? Writer?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, no, sorry. Go on. I. I missed the monkey. I missed the monkey. Storyline sounds like a fully fledged wonderful character developed piece of art. Compared to this, that's like an Academy Award winning.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

Masterpiece.

[Danielle Fishel]

This is the Emmy. Posthumously give us the Emmy for monkey episode the organ Grinder.

[Ryder Strong]

And the monkey is like, man, that was just high quality stuff.

[Will Friedle]

Is there. Is there a part of you that's slightly impressed that they did worse than the B story last week?

[Danielle Fishel]

No, not at all.

[Will Friedle]

There's a part of me that was almost like, this is, this is, this is.

[Danielle Fishel]

This is impressive.

[Will Friedle]

This is impressive. I didn't think it was possible, but this is. This is impressive.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just when I think they can't top themselves, they do.

[Ryder Strong]

There's another bottom to this barrel.

[Solaray Magnesium Brand Voice]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

My God.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yikes.

[Will Friedle]

I forgot there's a floor underneath the bottom of the barrel.

[Ryder Strong]

So bad.

[Danielle Fishel]

Bridget turns her focus to Jack. I understand it must be somewhat embarrassing for you having once held this position. And now we get a little bit of body shaming.

[Ryder Strong]

I don't understand.

[Danielle Fishel]

She's becoming the manager, but okay.

[Will Friedle]

Because the chancellor of the school can place his daughter in the manager of the student store.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Which is a very high paying.

[Will Friedle]

And we all know Chancellor Murphy's power.

[Danielle Fishel]

True.

[Will Friedle]

So come on.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. I love this little bit of just shaming her for her body too. Jack explains. No, I'm okay. What would be embarrassing though is if I let some obviously spoiled she said it. So.

[Bowen Yang]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep. And surgically augmented little daddy's girl ruffle my feathers.

[Will Friedle]

I think it just meant he knew that she was born with a vestigial tail and she had it removed. That's what he was talking about. You gotta go for the subtext, Daniel. This is high, important, deep stuff.

[Danielle Fishel]

Is that just something that happens to every rich kid? Because how did he know that? Cause does he have one?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, he had one as well.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay, got it.

[Will Friedle]

Comes with money.

[Danielle Fishel]

She's intrigued. Are you gonna kiss me now? Jack is unfazed. I'm gonna kiss you. Never.

[Will Friedle]

By the way, their kids would be stunning.

[Danielle Fishel]

Gorgeous.

[Will Friedle]

I mean stunning.

[Danielle Fishel]

Do you think I don't understand good looks in a rich daddy? Yeah. You and I are cut from the Same velvet cloth, Ms. Bridget. He assures her, I know how to protect myself from you. And I know how to protect my friends too. On cue, Eric marches back out to declare, toilets are clean, boss. Oh, and hey, look. He places a plunger on his head and brings back a version of the Cartman voice. I'm a Teletubby. Bridget is seemingly pleased with her brainless employee and Jack is embarrassed. He's not my Friend Eric is still balancing the plunger on his head. Not the purple one, though. A little bit of gay panic.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. And also ad libbed gay panic. That was on me.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, you give yourself credit for that?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I ad libbed that line like the second or third take, which is why you heard people, like laugh. Because it was just in the zeitgeist

[Danielle Fishel]

about the purple Teletubby. That was around the time.

[Will Friedle]

I think it was Jerry Falwell or somebody at the time coming out saying, like, the purple Teletubby is clearly gay. And it's this anamorphous blob of a thing. Like what? Well, you know why it was. Because it had no, it had the tri. The. They all had weird things. They had shapes on their head and it was an upside down triangle on the purple one. And he was like, well, that obviously means gay. And it was like. And so that. Yeah, that became a whole thing. So, yeah, that was me. I would love to blame the writers for that one, but I completely and totally threw out a gay panic joke in the lady.

[Danielle Fishel]

Take credit for that.

[Will Friedle]

I do, I do.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, now, in an empty, brand new house, Corey has walked Topanga into the living room, covering her eyes. He finally reveals to her their location. A spacious, newly painted home for sale. Behold our future. Two bedrooms, two bathrooms, a kitchen, and some kind of nook. Topanga is baffled. Why would you take us here? Why would you take us to this house we could never afford?

[Ryder Strong]

Okay, I got a response from Shiloh.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, great.

[Ryder Strong]

Unhappy macnam. Amazing. What did that come from? Feels like it was a Nate Brewer invention.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, you said.

[Ryder Strong]

Yep.

[Will Friedle]

All right, all right, that's funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

Now you got to reach out to Nate and ask him if that was his.

[Will Friedle]

He's just going to write back. New phone. Who dis.

[Ryder Strong]

No, I'll send him the same thing. Unhappy McNam.

[Angela Yee]

Love it.

[Ryder Strong]

See what he says.

[Will Friedle]

Have you. By the way, have you seen the thing? I think I sent it to you both. It was either on Instagram or one of the other things about the. Are you gonna get into that about the.

[Danielle Fishel]

We do have the clip. Yeah, we have the clip. We're gonna play it for everyone.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, good.

[Danielle Fishel]

You'll see. You'll see it, Ryder.

[Will Friedle]

You'll see. Ryder.

[Danielle Fishel]

I love that there's always some dynamic where two of us know what's going on and the other one has no clue. And we're always like, you just hold your horse. You'll find out.

[Will Friedle]

We'll get there.

[Ryder Strong]

I wonder how it breaks down. Like in Those situations. How much of our audience is on the side of the knowers and how much of the audience is on the unknown? Like, how much of our audience do you think knows about clavicular?

[Danielle Fishel]

You want an actual guess? I would say of our audience where I think the smallest percentage of our listeners are 25 and younger.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

I would say 2% of our listeners know about.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. Really?

[Ryder Strong]

I think it's in the zeitgeist. I feel like it's something I never heard of.

[Will Friedle]

This is honestly sounds like something you need to take medicine for.

[Danielle Fishel]

We could do a poll. We could just have. Do have heard of clavicular.

[Will Friedle]

Are we making this guy? It's a guy. It's a guy.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a guy.

[Will Friedle]

Can we making this guy more famous by doing this?

[Danielle Fishel]

No, no, we're not going to put a picture of him or any of that. We're just going to do a poll. Have you.

[Ryder Strong]

Had you heard just sent back like about 10 hearts.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, he loves it. Was that. Was that a him invention?

[Ryder Strong]

I think so.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, we used to say it all the time, but yeah. I don't know.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's cute. He still asks if we could afford it. Do you like it? She crosses her arms. We can't afford it.

[Bowen Yang]

Why?

[Ryder Strong]

We're all. He said text back. We're all just bozos on the bus. Which is something I don't remember. He's. He's going deeper.

[Solaray Magnesium Brand Voice]

Oh, no.

[Bowen Yang]

Oh, my gosh.

[Will Friedle]

God. You're gonna deep dive through the breweries.

[Danielle Fishel]

Maybe he needs to say it to you. Maybe if you heard it in a voice, you would know what it is.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, maybe the 10 hearts meme. He's having heart problems. You never know.

[Ryder Strong]

All right, keep going, keep going.

[Danielle Fishel]

He begs her. Don't do that. You're becoming a negative little missy. Topanga explains it is just cruel to take a person who's this close to losing it this close, and taunt her with this cute little adorable house, which she'll never, ever live in. And I realized here in the scene that Topanga is wearing an exact outfit Danielle would wear today. Just really cute sweater.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Jeans with a little bit of a flare at the bottom. And a cute pair of shoes. So tennis shoes.

[Will Friedle]

I also have to say, except maybe season one, season seven. Topanga is arguably my favorite Topanga.

[Danielle Fishel]

Agreed.

[Will Friedle]

I like that are just.

[Danielle Fishel]

There are some moments that are weird aside from her, you know, making excuses for Corey's weird behavior. Understand. Like in the coming up where I go.

[Angela Yee]

Lia.

[Danielle Fishel]

Lia. Where those are just like Michael I am like Michael Reed. Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't get that, but I do in general love this version of her.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes. She has character, she has agency. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And you're having fun and enjoying it.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it's. And hitting. You're like you're finding jokes where there aren't any and we're just playing more and. Yeah, yeah, this, this. This works for Topanga.

[Danielle Fishel]

I agree. Thank you. Corey grins. So you like this hat house? She screams at the top of her lungs, I love this house. Why would you do this to me? And then a brightly dressed lady appears atop the stairs and cheerfully chirps, hello, you must be my happy, happy newlyweds.

[Will Friedle]

And then somebody told the audience to go crazy.

[Ryder Strong]

Go crazy.

[Will Friedle]

Don't you remember her kids from laughing?

[Ryder Strong]

This is such a weird tradition on our show and I guess sitcoms in general, the like, kooky side character for one scene with a big voice. Because we did like the wedding planner we had. I just feel like this is such a trope in sitcoms, though.

[Danielle Fishel]

It is a sitcom trope for sure. And by the way, potential for great drive bys. And. And in this case, I think it is a great drive by. For example, the haircutting episode. Oh, you know, that's a. Talk about a perfect drive by. So it is a trope for a reason. Because when it works, it works well. It works well.

[Will Friedle]

Isn't there an Emmy for that? I think there's a guest star Emmy, isn't there?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes, I think there is.

[Ryder Strong]

It always goes to, like, the most famous person, right?

[Will Friedle]

Of course. Like Nathan Lane, guest star on Star Trek. Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Topanga asks if she's the real estate agent, and the lady chuckles, oh, yes, I am. Whee. Love that. But she graciously slides down the stair banister to close the door and introduce herself. Consummate entertainer Edith Stevens at your service. Oh, how much do you love this breathtaking starter cottage with an O. Do we think it's weird that Corey didn't bother to let his mother know? The possible real estate agent herself?

[Will Friedle]

Exactly.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, mom, sell us a house, get

[Will Friedle]

the house sold, and then fill it with art.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, that's right. Topanga threatens the agent. I'm reporting you to the Better Business Bureau. Immediately. The woman is confused. Whatever for? Topanga points to Corey. This man's a dope. You knew that after a few minutes of talking with him. And then you led him to believe we could afford this house. House. When the truth is he can barely afford a sandwich. Edith laughs. My dear Mrs. Matthews, it is my joy to place young couples in cozy surroundings such as these. She grabs Corey and Topanga's hands tight like most other couples. You think I can't afford it? She then raises their hands high in the air and screeches, but you can. I just. I've thoroughly enjoyed this character.

[Ryder Strong]

She's great.

[Will Friedle]

Great.

[Danielle Fishel]

Topanga is dumbfounded. How could they possibly afford an eighty thousand dollar house?

[Ryder Strong]

Wow.

[Danielle Fishel]

The lady grins. Very simple. Over thirty years, I've already explained it to your husband. And she scratches Corey's chin. Which is a decision. Topanga commands the lady, I told you not to talk to him. Corey argues, she can talk to me. And the agent agrees. Yeah, I can talk to him. She turns to Corey and sings out the instructions. Remember, just a trifle of a down payment and a pittance of a mortgage and two living parents with a pen who can sign. This is the scene writer that has become social media fodder.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

30 years later, here is Instagram user Freddie smith. He is msmith319, updating everything Cory and Topanga hoped for. But now, now in 2025, let's play the clip house. Very simple.

[Will Friedle]

Over 30 years, just a trifle down payment and a pittance of a mortgage,

[Danielle Fishel]

and two living parents with a pen who can sign.

[Podcast Guest or Analyst]

So that clip was from Boy Meets World, and that episode aired in 1999, and I couldn't help myself, so I had to run the numbers. The show took place in Philly, and I saw that the median house price was around $80,000 in 1999. Now, Cory and Topanga were high school students without a. A job, so they couldn't qualify. But what about the median household income back then? It's $40,000, which is about $3,300 a month. And a 3% down payment on the median house was only $2,400. So somebody in Philly in 1999 didn't even have to save one month's income to put a down payment on this house. And the interest rates were around 7%, just like they are today. So with principal interest, property tax insurance and private mortgage insurance, the total payment was $750 a month to get the median house in Philly. And you're making 3,300, so that's about what, 25%. So a family making 40 grand could take care of their entire mortgage in just one week. And then I wanted to see. Well, let's just see what happened to the prices in Philadelphia, because we know the averages around the country. But let's look at Philly. 80,000 was the median price in 1999. It's now 250,000. So below the average for the nation. But the income was 40,000 thousand for the median household. Now it's 60,000. So the housing price even in Philly went up over 200% in the last 25 years, but the income only went up 53%. So even in smaller cities, metro cities, no matter where we look, I don't think I have found a city in America where the housing and income was even close to keeping up.

[Ryder Strong]

That's.

[Danielle Fishel]

Isn't that crazy?

[Ryder Strong]

Crazy, yeah.

[Will Friedle]

When he busts down the numbers that you're looking at it like you can't do that anymore.

[Danielle Fishel]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. So the thing, it's weird because the kind of the story that Alan and Amy are talking about and want Cory and Topanga to experience so much harder is impossible. It's almost unattainable. I mean, literally almost done. Well, we've got nothing. We gotta scrape together something to get a down payment. You can't really do that anymore. Wow.

[Danielle Fishel]

Nope. We could not shut up this episode. I don't know what got into us, but I hope you like it. You can listen to part two of this episode later today. Today, Pod Meets World is an iHeart podcast produced and hosted by Danielle Fishel, Will Friedle and Ryder Strong, executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman, executive in charge of production, Danielle Romo, producer and editor, Tara Suedbaksh, producer, Maddie Moore, engineer and Boy Meets World super fan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow us on Instagram at Podmeats World show or email [e-mail] this is Bowen

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[Danielle Fishel]

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