TGI – Fresh Prince of Bel-Air 407 “Hex and the Single Guy”

Summary

Pod Meets World – "TGI: Fresh Prince of Bel-Air 407 'Hex and the Single Guy'"

Episode Date: October 30, 2025
Hosts: Danielle Fishel, Will Friedle, Ryder Strong
Podcast: Pod Meets World (iHeartPodcasts)
Episode Theme: A nostalgic, in-depth look at the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air's season 4 Halloween episode, with classic 90s sitcom comparisons, personal sitcom experiences, and lots of playful banter.

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Episode Overview

The hosts, stars of "Boy Meets World," take a break from examining their own iconic Halloween episode to watch and review the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air’s “Hex and the Single Guy.” They compare 90s sitcom tropes, analyze the episode’s structure and humor, and reminisce about the era’s TV landscape. The discussion is peppered with behind-the-scenes insight, comedic tangents, and their unique lens as former sitcom actors.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fresh Prince Fandom and Will Smith’s Career

• (15:09) Danielle asks if the co-hosts grew up watching Fresh Prince.
  • Ryder didn’t think he was a fan but realized he remembered the characters once watching.
  • Will recalls the famous emotional scene with Will Smith’s father:
    "This is the Will Smith episode that really showed how well he could act..." (15:43)
• (16:09) The hosts discuss Will Smith’s career highlights.
  • Will: "At his height to me was like the leading man in Hollywood... Men in Black... Bad Boys..."
  • Danielle praises his performance in Hitch, while Ryder prefers his comedic roles:
    "I’ve never quite loved his pivot to drama... best when he’s comic..." (16:28)

2. Episode Context and Creative Team

• Danielle summarizes the "Hex and the Single Guy" plot and gives background on director Shelley Jensen and writers Barry Gerstein and David Pitlik.
  • Notable tangent: They all laugh about the kids’ show "Handy Manny" and its suggestive name (18:32).

3. Fresh Prince Cast Quick Hits

• Each cast member’s career is referenced, with personal connections and fun facts:
  • James Avery (Uncle Phil): "He was the voice of Shredder on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!" (19:59)
  • Daphne Reid (Vivian): Noted as the second Aunt Viv, appearances in “Bel Air,” the reboot series. (20:36)
  • Alfonso Ribeiro (Carlton): His child acting, “Dancing with the Stars,” and “America’s Funniest Home Videos.” (20:54)
  • DJ Jazzy Jeff: Confirmation he is rap royalty, plus the trivia that he’s Amir's dad from “Girl Meets World” (22:44)

4. First Impressions & Sitcom Structure

• (24:03) Ryder and Will note the episode’s abrupt ending and overall short, sitcom-y structure:

  • "It just stopped. There was no... It didn't go full circle at all." – Will (24:25)

• Ryder recognizes Halloween episode tropes:
  "Something spooky has to happen, a big guest star... It hit a lot of the categories." (24:03)

• (26:19)–(28:01) They discuss the exaggerated, cartoonish nature of supporting characters (especially Carlton) vs. more down-to-earth “Boy Meets World” characters.

  • Will: "Boy Meets World, we never went that route... Sitcoms of this genre, except ours, have really charactery characters."
  • Ryder: "I think this is partly why I've never gotten into sitcoms, a lot of them were like... caricatures almost."

5. Fresh Prince Family Dynamics

• Ryder appreciates the dynamic that Will is the outsider in a rich, quirky family:
  "Will is the outsider, and he's coming in as the everyman going, 'you rich people are crazy.' I think that's a better dynamic..." (28:39)
• The hosts agree the chemistry and relationships are clear even dropping in mid-series.

6. Episode Recap Highlights

Opening Sequence & Jokes

• Danielle recaps how the show introduces Trevor’s death (Hillary’s fiancé) via dark, funny lines:
  • "Not any more than Trevor [was crushed]" – Carlton’s joke (35:51)
• Fresh Prince’s theme song earns nostalgic love:
  • "I could do this backwards, forwards, upside down, in my sleep." – Danielle (36:43)
  • Ryder: "People will remember this even more than any single episode." (37:18)

Seance Setup

• The repartee between family members highlights both the show’s humor and exposition mechanics (38:31–41:30).
• Discussion of psychic/seance pop culture and personal “psychic” stories – Ryder and Will reminisce about palm readings gone wrong. (45:41–48:16)

The Seance & “Hex”

• The hosts relish the show's physical comedy, snappy lines, and racy jokes:
  • "The table begins to shake and Hillary screams out, 'That's Trevor. I know his vibration.'" – Danielle recognizes it as a sex joke, confirmed by Will. (50:13)
• Will’s skepticism breaks the seance, prompting Scorpius to “curse” him.
  • "From this day forward you will bring evil to all those in your presence. You will end up alone and forever hexed." – Scorpius (54:12)

The “Hex” Fallout

• Series of zany, escalating events:
  • Phil framed and suspended as a judge, Carlton’s hair goes wild, Ashley attacked by tennis ball machine, Geoffrey deported, Hillary plans to marry Jazz.
  • Discussion of how sitcoms can play tragedy for laughs and why the audience laughed so hard at insignificant lines — referencing live taping giggles (41:25–41:30).

Dream Reveal & Ending

• Will wakes from the nightmare but the day appears to be repeating (“Groundhog Day”/“Looper” reference).

  • "Is the hex still going? ...Wouldn't that be now Groundhog Day?" – Ryder (70:04)

• The hosts agree that the episode’s plot is largely a “romp”:
  "It's a romp." – Danielle (71:53)

  • "It's a Twilight Zone episode for Fresh Prince." – Ryder (71:59)

Carlton’s Blooper Tag

• The episode closes on a fun note with a blooper reel of Alfonso Ribeiro breaking during a trick-or-treating line. (72:24)
  • "I absolutely love those tags. I stand by them... I wish more shows did them more often." – Danielle (72:44)

7. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On sitcom tropes:
  "There’s gotta be a reason [why the audience laughs so hard at that line]. Unless you’re on a set with a cast, you’ll never know what giggles are like." – Will (41:12)
• On the show’s lack of resolution:
  "I thought Scorpius... would come back dressed like Scorpius to release him from something, but it just stopped." – Will (70:49)
• On sitcoms breaking character:
  "There's apparently, Lorne Michaels hates when actors break SNL... That’s the fun part." – Will (73:10)
• On Will Smith’s real-life irony:
  "Isn't there a weird irony that Will Smith went from being the Everyman poking fun at these crazy rich people to probably one of the wealthier... his life makes no sense to the Everyman." – Ryder (73:14)

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Highlighted Timestamps for Key Segments

• Will Smith’s acting and career: 15:09–16:28
• Sitcom character discussion: 26:19–28:39
• The Episode’s abrupt ending and structure: 24:03–25:06, 70:04–71:41
• Seance scene and racy jokes debate: 50:13–50:49
• Discussion of cast chemistry & family dynamics: 27:18–28:42
• Carlton trick-or-treating blooper reel: 72:24
• Final musings on sitcom bloopers & Will Smith's "everyman" irony: 72:44–73:54

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Conclusion & Host Reflections

• The hosts enjoy the Fresh Prince Halloween romp for its fun, cast chemistry, and embrace of sitcom absurdity, even as they poke fun at its unresolved plot.
• The episode prompts fond memories of 90s sitcoms, live taping quirks, and the importance of strong, clear character relationships.
• Playful arguments abound about sitcom caricature vs. grounded characters, and the hosts end by reaffirming their love for behind-the-scenes moments and sitcom bloopers as a beloved legacy of the era.

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Transcript

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Sophia]

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[Will Friedle]

Wait a minute, Sophia, how do you know she's a cult leader?

[Sophia]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Sophia]

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[Kal Penn]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

Oh yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

And he is hoping that this gives people an opportunity to restock some of their favorite things, to find new things, to start new memories. So, so he wants to be helpful and he's got so much great stuff. So you can find him at 300 East Colorado Boulevard in Unit 141 in Pasadena, California, 91101. He is open 11am to 6pm and he is closed on Mondays. So we need to find a time to go again.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. I never went.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know you need. That's right. You never even got to go get.

[Ryder Strong]

To go with us.

[Danielle Fishel]

No, that's right. We did a kids trip so we need to, we need to do like a little family situation. We got so many great things. Last time I bought a Christmas tree skirt, Ryder and Alex also bought a Christmas tree skirt. The most expensive Christmas skirt and it. I love the story so I'm going to let Ryder tell the story.

[Ryder Strong]

What is this the Christmas skirt story.

[Will Friedle]

And why have you never worn it?

[Danielle Fishel]

Ryder, why the his tree wears it every year. By the way, not everything in the store is expensive. There are some totally reasonably priced items and then of course for some of the more vintage and beautiful or intricate things, there are some very expensive items as well. But so Ryder, tell the story of what happened with, with the expensive tree skirts.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, we, we liked a tree skirt and we found like this incredibly looking, decorated, gorgeous tree skirt it was. There was like, one of three that clearly were, like, handmade in some, you know, whatever. It's beautiful. And Alex looked at the. She was like, oh, it's $59. Like, we should. Like this. This is worth it. This will be our family's tree skirt. And we get to the counter. We had a couple other things. Oh, we also found Golden Girl candles. So we got those. Yeah, golden girl votive candles. And then we were ringing it up, or Chris is bringing it up, and he goes. He goes to Alex, like, this is a really nice tree skirt. You have really great taste. I'm like, oh, yeah. You know, he tells the story behind it, like, oh, I'm a friend who in Germany, blah bl. And we're like, rings it up, and it's 590 some dollars.

[Danielle Fishel]

599, not 59.

[Ryder Strong]

I just missed the. And little decimal point, like. And I'm like, that's how they get you. We just kept our mouth shut. We're just like, you know what? This is going to be too awkward. I'm just. We're going to commit. We now have a family heirloom, Indy. It's in our will that Indy will get this tree skirt. It's the most important expensive Christmas item we own.

[Will Friedle]

Is it made from actual Santa?

[Danielle Fishel]

It's.

[Ryder Strong]

Just curious. Reindeer bells.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, my God. We are dedicated now. So every year we laugh, we bring it out a tree, and we open the vault. You can't go to college.

[Danielle Fishel]

Safe.

[Ryder Strong]

You can't go to college. But. But you have a tree skirt. 61, 44.

[Danielle Fishel]

There's elf blood on it.

[Chrissy Teigen]

Alex.

[Will Friedle]

Totally.

[Ryder Strong]

She was so embarrassed. She was like, I just read it wrong.

[Danielle Fishel]

But. But.

[Ryder Strong]

Because she had this whole conversation with Chris about how she had great taste, and she's like, well, yeah, you know, I just think it's beautiful. So, like, for her to back out would have had to be, oh, never mind.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't want it.

[Ryder Strong]

It's never worth it. I don't want it. It's not worth that much.

[Will Friedle]

With great taste comes great responsibility.

[Ryder Strong]

Exactly. She was like, I don't want to hurt his feelings, but it's awkward. We just got to pay it. And I'm like, oh, my God, 600 bucks.

[Will Friedle]

It better. Seriously, Mrs. Claus should have sewn that thing. Oh, man.

[Ryder Strong]

Hysterical heirloom. Yep. And that.

[Will Friedle]

That year, there were no presents under the tree because that's where all your money went.

[Ryder Strong]

You don't get anything, but you get to sit under this tree skirt.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Sophia]

I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her.

[Will Friedle]

Well, wait a minute, Sophia. How do you know she's a cult leader?

[Sophia]

Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid of a scary story week on the ok Storytime podcast, so you'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor has been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals, and now my ceiling is collapsing. I try to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they may be part of a cult.

[Will Friedle]

Hold up, Sophia. A real life cult? And what is a dirt ritual?

[Ryder Strong]

No clue.

[Sophia]

But according to this person, contractors are tearing down the patio to find out what's going on with her ceiling and her neighbors are not happy.

[Will Friedle]

Well, she needs to report them asap.

[Sophia]

She did, and now they've been confronting her in really creepy ways all the time.

[Will Friedle]

So do we find out if this person survives their neighborhood cult or not?

[Sophia]

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the okay Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danielle Fishel]

Our spooky hayride to Halloween continues acknowledging that here on Pod Meets World, we may have overanalyzed our own quote unquote Halloween episode. And then there was Sean. In the same vein that historians have studied the Zapruder tape, we've hit it from absolutely every single angle. So we pivoted. We'll be analyzing other family sitcom Halloween episodes to either be impressed or slowly realize why our own Scream episode is held in such high regard. We've tackled Sabrina and family matters to varying results. And now we look to another 90s favorite, the story of a Philadelphia teen who was sent from the rough streets of Philadelphia to the posh star lined avenues of Bel Air, only to later slap a man for humiliating his wife. That's right. We are reviewing the Fresh Prince of Bel Air and its season four Halloween episode, Hex and the Single Guy.

[Will Friedle]

Keep this episode out of your mouth. Had to be done.

[Danielle Fishel]

Were either of you Fresh Prince fans? Is this the first episode you've seen?

[Ryder Strong]

So I thought this was my first episode.

[Danielle Fishel]

Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

But then I was watching it and I was like, I know some of these character names and I knew their voices before they started talking. So I must have watched at least one or two episodes in the past, I think. I'm pretty sure I watched the pilot when it first came out. So yeah, I had absorbed it. I knew, you know, like, I knew characters, and so I Was like, oh, yeah. So I must have. But I don't remember consciously a single episode. I can't tell a storyline.

[Will Friedle]

I had seen the show. I know I specifically remember one episode because everyone was like, this is the Will Smith episode that really showed how well he could act. And there was an episode where his dad comes back in town and he does this great speech at the end where he just breaks down crying. It was really powerful. And I think that's the only other episode I've seen, but it was. I had distinctly remember that episode. He was really good.

[Danielle Fishel]

And were either of you ever Will Smith movie fans? Do you have a favorite Will Smith movie?

[Will Friedle]

I thought Will Smith at his height to me was like the leading man in Hollywood.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

I mean his bad boy movies, especially the first one. I mean, Men in Black.

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, Men in Black is so good.

[Will Friedle]

A couple there right in a row where it was like, oh, this guy's just a flat out movie star. I mean it was, it was great. So. Yeah. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I've never quite loved his like pivot to drama. I always just thought, you know, best one is comic. Well, and it's like the understated charm comedy, like the kind of like wittiest sides and like that just, it's, it's a great vibe. So I. Yeah, so I'm Independence Day. Like all the original stuff.

[Danielle Fishel]

Great, great, great movie.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. But like, I don't know. Yeah. You know, and now it's really all. It's all kind of hard to see.

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, what movie I don't think gets enough credit that I, that I enjoyed was Hitch. Did either of you see Hitch?

[Ryder Strong]

Hitch was great.

[Will Friedle]

It was a great rom com. Kevin James was awesome. It's a little, if you watch it again, it's a little heavy handed with the speeches.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh yeah. I do know that. I even remember that at the time being like these could have been, these could have been touched up a little bit.

[Chrissy Teigen]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

But I love the movie and I thought, I remember, I remember thinking, he's just so charming and funny and adorable in it. So that was one of the.

[Will Friedle]

Hancock's not bad either. It's a, it's not great.

[Danielle Fishel]

I never saw Hancock.

[Will Friedle]

It's a good concept. It's the one where it's essentially he's. He's a superhero, but he doesn't want to be. So he's just a drunk.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh.

[Will Friedle]

And it's him like flying around half drunk and you know, trying to save the whale that's on the beach and just throwing it out and it knocks over a ship. It's like. It's very funny. And it's him and Charlize Theron, who. I can watch her do anything. So she.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, let's jump into our synopsis. Hillary drags the family to a psychic, and when Will doesn't believe in their powers, he's cursed for his skepticism. It was directed by Shelly Jensen. Shelley was a veteran TV director with his first credit being on Webster and moving on to dozens of other shows including Friends, Veronica's Closet, and Hannah Montana. Shelley had a big run at Disney in the 2000 and tens, directing a lot of episodes of Dog With a Blog and Austin and Ally, but appears to have retired in 2016. It was written by Barry Gerstein. Barry was a producer and a writer on the show. He also wrote episodes of My Two Dads, Doogie Howser and City Guys, and also David Pitlik. Pitlik and Gerstein were writing partners, but he would later go solo to focus on much younger programming like Thomas and Friends and Handy Manny. Was Handy Manny around when Indy was a kid?

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Ryder Strong]

This does not sound right for. To me, it sounds vaguely sexual. Yeah, you know. Oh, I got a Handy Manny. Oh, yeah, Handy Manny. It does. It just sounds like a guy who.

[Will Friedle]

Drives around in a van. Like, don't get in handy man.

[Ryder Strong]

Don't get too. He's really handsy. Handy Manny. Yeah. There's something a little off about.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a cartoon about a handyman who has to help people around the town. Yeah, of course.

[Will Friedle]

Is the Thomas one. Is that the one about the train? Is that a spin off of the train one?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep, it's a. It's a cartoon about Thomas and his friend the trains. And trains are awesome. Oh, yeah, we watched both of those when my kids were little.

[Will Friedle]

Writer's still laughing about Handy Manny.

[Ryder Strong]

Manny. How do you do that? Like a kids show? Like, no, there's no way some, like 50 of your audience's brain doesn't go there. But.

[Danielle Fishel]

Starring Will Smith as Will Smith. The show was developed by the legendary Quincy Jones for the star Will Smith, AKA Fresh Prince. This was his first experience acting ever, and yet he would turn into one of the biggest blockbuster actors in the history of movies. Men in Black, Independence Day, Bad Boys. And he'd star in dramas like Ali, the Pursuit of Happiness and King Richard, for which he won an Oscar. And he would also change that award show forever. Anyway, you know, Will Smith, he's Will Smith. And then there's James Avery as Philip Banks, a very recognizable character that Is most known for this show, but had appeared in every TV show ever over the years. He also appeared in movies like Fletch, License to Drive, and the Brady Bunch movie. But most interestingly, he was the voice of Shredder on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Avery passed away in 2013 at just 68 years old.

[Ryder Strong]

He passed?

[Will Friedle]

I didn't know that. Oh, that sucks.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. And then we have Daphne Reid as Vivian Banks. Reid was in other TV shows as well, like Simon and Simon and the Cosby Show. And she is still acting. Most recently seen in Bel Air, the weird drama reboot of Fresh Prince of Bel Air that I don't really know anything about. Do you guys know anything about?

[Ryder Strong]

I remember hearing about it.

[Will Friedle]

Heard about it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, me too.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

I think it started kind of as a joke, right? Like, it was like somebody. I don't think so.

[Will Friedle]

I think they wanted somebody do it like a.

[Ryder Strong]

No, I think somebody did it as like a sketch or a skit. And then they were like, actually, we could really do this.

[Will Friedle]

Seriously. She was also the second Aunt Viv, too.

[Danielle Fishel]

That's correct. Correct. And then Alfonso Ribeiro is Carlton Banks. Alfonso was a child dancer who began his career appearing in the infamous Michael Jackson Pepsi commercial. He'd then play Alfonso on the hit show Silver Spoons and eventually appear as a contestant on a little show called Dancing with the Stars, reinvigorating his career as a host, now seen all the time on America's Funniest Home Videos and as the eventual host of Dancing with the Stars.

[Will Friedle]

Not familiar with it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Never heard of it.

[Will Friedle]

No, not familiar.

[Danielle Fishel]

I haven't heard of Dancing with the Stars, but I have heard of a show called POD meets Twirled.

[Will Friedle]

Well, that's a very.

[Danielle Fishel]

And they review it. That's very popular. So here it's number four. Then we have Karen Parsons as Hillary Banks. This was also Parsons first real gig. She would go on to star in movies like Class Act, Major Pain, and the Ladies Man. And then there's Tatiana Ali as Ashley Banks, a 90s Teen Beat center who also had a pop singing career off of this show and would appear in movies like Glory Road and Jawbreaker, and TV shows like the Young and the Restless and most recently, Abbott Elementary. And then there's Joseph Marcel as Jeffrey Butler. He has had a busy career both before and after Fresh Prince. But listen, he's Jeffrey forever, you know? But he's still working recently on the Thursday Murder Club. Also on the Bel Air reboot, guest starring DJ Jazzy Jeff as the slacker Jazz, a best friend To Will and a rival of Uncle Phil. This is Fresh Prince's real life rap group partner. One of the best DJs in history of the art form. Acting was never something he went on to do. He was too busy making music. But he is great in this. And little known fact. Yes, Ryder, go for it.

[Ryder Strong]

It's Amir's dad, right?

[Danielle Fishel]

Amir from Girl Meets World?

[Ryder Strong]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Is his son okay?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Is DJ Jazzy Jeff? Is he really considered one of the best DJs ever? I just don't know. I don't know the world enough 100%.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, he's definitely up there. Legendary status, really amazing, and obviously extremely talented kids as well. And then we have Glenn Shaddix as Ralph Scorpius. Everyone will recognize Glenn as Otho in Beetlejuice, an absolutely classic role. He'd also voice the mayor in Nightmare Before Christmas and play Senator NATO in the 2001 Planet of the Apes. He would tragically pass away from blunt force trauma after accidentally falling and hitting his head while in a wheelchair.

[Will Friedle]

Wait, what?

[Ryder Strong]

Who's already in a wheelchair?

[Will Friedle]

You're in a wheelchair. How do you fall? So did, like, the wheelchair wiped out, slip over?

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, my God. He was also in Demolition Man. Great guy. I can't believe he's gone too.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

Fell out of a wheelchair.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. Jackie Roberts is the INS agent. Roberts also appears on the Cosby Show, Party of Five, and the Steve Harvey Show. If you are interested in watching this episode along with us, you can check it out on Hulu through Disney.

[Ryder Strong]

Overall thoughts? I want to hear, like, what you guys think. Like, because I felt like this spoke to a lot of our Halloween show discussions about where something spooky has to happen. It's other. You know, there's like, guest star. Guests. A big guest star. It, like, hit a lot of the category. I was like, this is a pretty solid. But it also felt really short to me.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

And then it just stopped.

[Ryder Strong]

It just stopped.

[Will Friedle]

There was no.

[Ryder Strong]

I know there was. It didn't go full circle at all. But what I was wondering does. Does Fresh Prince ever. I mean, like, I'm assuming that's because it was a Halloween episode. They just had a fun, like, one off. Right. Because it was like a half off. It was like a full story.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. It just. Oh, you go.

[Ryder Strong]

Here you get hexed.

[Will Friedle]

No, I don't.

[Ryder Strong]

Yes, you do. Okay.

[Will Friedle]

And then wake up.

[Ryder Strong]

And then wake up.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It was so weird.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought it was a very fun episode. I. My only complaint was that when it ended, I was like, wait, I. I need to know the story.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, right.

[Danielle Fishel]

How does it end? That was good. That was it. Up until that point, I was actually invested.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt the same. I thought something was going to come back and be like, oh, this is the reason for this.

[Will Friedle]

And Will Smith's obviously a star and he's like, Jaleel and that he carried the whole thing. And.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, great. But also, my other question happened when. When Will walked in and he was already. He was. The reason he was hexed is because he was skeptical. And then he sees that this guy is just like a normal guy. How come he didn't right away go, oh, my gosh, this whole thing must have been fake. You know what I mean? Like, instead he was like, what the hecks? But then it was a dream. I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

I also, I also. This is where just picking a random episode in the middle of a series where it comes in and everyone's talking about some guy dying in a tragic bungee outfit, we're like, what? I feel like we missed something. We missed something.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought they did a really good job, though, of somehow making that storyline funny.

[Ryder Strong]

I agree.

[Danielle Fishel]

They really leaned into, yes, we're going to talk about this tragedy, but we're not playing it as a tragedy. We're playing it. Which I thought was really good overall. Even though I feel like I would love to know the resolution to the story, I was wildly entertained.

[Will Friedle]

I was, too. One thing I'm noticing, though, and I don't know, is this just all sitcoms of this genre, except ours have really charactery characters.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, dude.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, is it. Is it. Because Boy Meets World, we never went that route.

[Ryder Strong]

But we're talking Alfonso's character and everybody, they're all so. They're caricatures. They're caricatures almost. Right? I know. I. I feel the same way, man. I mean, Sabrina less. Well, no, Sabrina too, because Sabrina too, Yeah. I mean, the bully girl is a bully. Like, everybody's so ridiculously over the top. You're right, man.

[Will Friedle]

Very cartoony.

[Ryder Strong]

I think this is partly why I've never gotten into sitcoms, is because I think a lot of them were like.

[Will Friedle]

Again, it depends on the sitcom. You watch Friends and you don't get. You don't get.

[Ryder Strong]

Of course.

[Will Friedle]

But it's this genre of if it's for. But Fresh Prince wasn't TGIF, so it wasn't for like 12 year olds.

[Ryder Strong]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, is this their version of a teen sitcom? And that's why everybody's so big in caricature because it's like.

[Ryder Strong]

It was kind of. Yeah. But I also think that, like, there's something about, like, this opening scene in the kitchen that I really didn't feel in Family Matters or Sabrina, which is a cast listening to each other and coming together. Like, I love that feeling. Like, it reminded me, like, oh, right, this is what sitcoms can do, is take broad, big characters, squeeze them in a room together, and just have fun hanging out with them. You know, you're just like, I know that guy. I know her.

[Will Friedle]

She's.

[Danielle Fishel]

And their relationships to each other. Even without watching a whole bunch of other episodes, you understand all the dynamics.

[Ryder Strong]

And I was like, that's comforting. This is fun. And, like, I miss that. On Family Matters, I felt on Family Matters, like, Urkel was just the center, and all these other people are sort of like. Like, you were saying Will just running around going, you're an idiot. What did that? Whereas this one, it's actually the opposite. Right. Like, Will is the outsider, and he's coming in as the sort of everyman going, like, you rich people are crazy. Like, that's his thing. Like every. You know? And I was like, that's cooler. I think that's a better way in because you just like Will better. You know, you're just, like, on his side, and everybody gets to be crazy. Whereas Family Matters, Everybody else is more normal. And Urkel's the crazy one. I was like, I think this is a better dynamic for me. Like, this works better. I much rather have broad, crazy characters in the World's Insane, and we're laughing at the rich and the.

[Danielle Fishel]

Every man representing us is inside the house.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I agree. And I thought, you know, Will amazing, obviously, but the oldest daughter.

[Danielle Fishel]

Oh, yeah.

[Will Friedle]

She was phenomenal.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

You really think Will is amazing? Because I was a little, like, for this genre. For this genre, the best character I think he's got, he's set up to be the most likable fun. You're rooting for him everything he says. But I didn't think it was that anything special. I was sort of like, yeah, I.

[Will Friedle]

Thought he had some funny beat. He's being Will Smith.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I mean, he's just Will Smithing it up, especially. And this is. He's not even Will Smithing. He's fresh princing it. This was DJ Jazzy Jeff, fresh print. That was like, a character he played that wasn't really Will Smith, but the older sister. I just thought. I was like, oh, I want to see episodes where she's the lead.

[Danielle Fishel]

I thought Alfonso was so funny.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, that he was great. Really caricature sitcom pro, though, that you're. Yeah, I was watching him going, dude, like, and. And you always have to be the butt of the joke.

[Will Friedle]

You know what I mean?

[Ryder Strong]

Like, that can get exhausting on an actor. And like, he's clearly still having fun. He's still like, hey, I'm just happy to be here. And like, I, I was like, this guy's. Yeah, it's. I don't know. It was a much better show than I could cast. The cast is really good.

[Danielle Fishel]

It was really, really enjoyable.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Chrissy Teigen]

I've never done a live recording before podcast. I've just never done it this week.

On the bright side, Chrissy Teigen, like you've never heard of before.

I think I showed the messiness of life, like, even before kids. So, like, it was kind of a natural thing just to show every part of it.

After kids too, from viral moments to real life motherhood. Chrissy opens up about what it means to live life out loud, even when it's hard.

When Miles was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, I remember feeling like, okay, I want to get this right for everybody that's depending on us.

Chrissy talks about turning fear into advocacy, building community, and finding joy in a very full house.

I had four kids for a reason. I love the chaos of bit.

This live conversation is raw, funny, and full of heart. Don't miss it. Listen to the bright side on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sophia]

I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her.

[Will Friedle]

Well, wait a minute, Sophia, how do you know she's a cult leader?

[Sophia]

Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid of a scary story week on the OK Story storytime podcast, so you'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor's been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals and now my ceiling is collapsing. I try to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they may be part of a cult.

[Will Friedle]

Hold up, Sophia. A real life cult? And what is a dirt ritual?

[Ryder Strong]

No clue.

[Sophia]

But according to this person, contractors are tearing down the patio to find out what's going on with their ceiling and her neighbors are not happy.

[Will Friedle]

Well, she needs to report them asap.

[Sophia]

She did, and now they've been confronting her in really creepy ways all the time.

[Will Friedle]

So do we find out if this person survives their neighborhood cult or not?

[Sophia]

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the OK Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator/Host of Hell in Heaven podcast]

In the new podcast, Hell in Heaven, two young Americans move to the coffee Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead. The other tried for murder not once. People went wild, not twice, stunned, but three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream starts to crumble and our couple retreat from reality.

[Ryder Strong]

They lose it. They actually lose it.

[Danielle Fishel]

They sort of went nuts.

[Narrator/Host of Hell in Heaven podcast]

Until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast costs.

[Danielle Fishel]

Here we Go.

[Kal Penn]

Hey, I'm Cal Penn, and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? You may know me as the second hottest actor from the Harold and Kumar movies, but I'm also an author, a White House staffer, and as of like 15 seconds ago, a podcast host. Along the way, I've made some friends who are experts in science, politics and pop culture. And each week one of them will be joining me to answer my burning questions, like, are we heading towards another financial crash? Like in 08, is non monogamy back in style? And how come there's never a gate ready for your flight when it lands like two minutes early? We've got guests like Pete Buttigieg, Stacey Abrams, Lilly Singh, and Bill Nye.

[Ryder Strong]

When you start weaponizing outer space, things can potentially go really wrong.

[Kal Penn]

Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, because it is. But my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here We Go Again with Kal Penn on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danielle Fishel]

Jumping into our recap, we are in the Banks house. Jeffrey is carving a pumpkin to alert us all. This is a Halloween episode.

[Ryder Strong]

Christmas oh.

[Danielle Fishel]

While the rest of the family sits down for breakfast, Carlton and Will enter, dressed in their loud robes and pajamas. Will excitedly shouts, happy Halloween. Phil doesn't acknowledge them, instead asking his wife about a $2,000 flower bill. She casually explains, that's for Trevor's perpetual care. Phil is shocked, but Vivian reminds him he was Hillary's fiance. There's some little background here. At the beginning of the season, Trevor, a newscaster and Hillary's boyfriend, dies in a bungee jumping accident while proposing to her on live tv.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, I wonder. I mean, they obviously didn't show that, but I'm so curious how they.

[Chrissy Teigen]

I know.

[Ryder Strong]

Did that off camera moment. Like, did they show people watching it?

[Will Friedle]

Oh, how do you make that funny, though? Super funny. That that's what they would do.

[Kal Penn]

He's proposing.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, God, I want to see that episode now. That's funny. That's.

[Will Friedle]

That's great. That how they would handle a death, though, is just with pure comedy. That's really funny.

[Danielle Fishel]

He tosses the bill aside. They get you coming. They get you going.

[Will Friedle]

How they get you.

[Ryder Strong]

They get you.

[Danielle Fishel]

Ashley chimes in, I can't believe it's been two months since Trevor's accident. Vivian praises Hillary's recent attitude about it, admitting she was so crushed. Carlton quips, not any more than Trevor. The audience lets out a roar of laughter at his death. Phil boasts, hillary's just exhibiting that old Hanks resiliency. If you ask me. I'd say she's back to normal. Geoffrey pauses from his pumpkin to add, whatever that is. Then, on cue, Hillary runs in with an extra pep in her step. Guess who I'm going out with tonight. Phil wonders who? And she proudly exclaims, trevor. What? Everyone shares a wide eyed glance. And then we cut to the show's iconic opening credits and rap. You guys know the words to this song, right?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, yeah, I definitely have seen it before.

[Will Friedle]

Like I.

[Ryder Strong]

But I didn't. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I could mouth along with it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, I could do this backwards, forwards, upside down, in my sleep. It's just.

[Will Friedle]

Are you gonna dance to this on.

[Ryder Strong]

Dancing with the Stars?

[Danielle Fishel]

I am. It's a legal requirement as a white girl.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Ryder Strong]

You're gonna do it like an acoustic, slowed down guitar version of it, right?

[Will Friedle]

You're gonna do a contemporary dance? I'm gonna do Barefoot, the opening title song.

[Ryder Strong]

I'll smell you later.

[Will Friedle]

West Philadelphia born and raised.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, it's funny. I mean, this is an example of like an opening credits sequence doing so much for a show because I feel like it's it's like people will remember this even more than they'll remember any single episode they play. You know, it's long, it tells a whole story. So you already feel like you've watched a story. Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It's really. I. I'm surprised more shows don't do this. Even by our second season, we were. We didn't have opening credits.

[Danielle Fishel]

Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And then there they are. I know. I was. I watched this in a rush and refused to skip it. Nope. Gonna listen to the whole thing. Listen to it.

[Will Friedle]

Not skip.

[Danielle Fishel]

Gonna watch it.

[Will Friedle]

Just.

[Danielle Fishel]

We're gonna be late. That's.

[Will Friedle]

Well, this is when sitcom used to explain the entire show in the opening title sequence. I mean, they used to do stuff like this where it was like. And he's a dad who's got two kids and one of the kids has a limp.

[Ryder Strong]

He's limp dad.

[Will Friedle]

It's like, oh, God. Okay, so it's limp dad.

[Ryder Strong]

That's too handy, Manny for me, man. I think we're trying to limp dad. Oh, my God.

[Danielle Fishel]

Also, I thought the kid had a limb. Why?

[Ryder Strong]

He does. Because he's the dad.

[Will Friedle]

It's about the dad raising the kid. But you see, he just ends with like, my kid lamps.

[Ryder Strong]

And he's like that.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Danielle Fishel]

All right, we are still in the bank's kitchen. Will quickly intercept Hillary. About you dating Trevor. How can I put this gently? Well, I can't. He's dead. Carlton jumps in. Hillary's been through a lot. I'm sure she has a rational explanation for what she's saying. Hillary grins. Of course, there's a TV psychic who can channel Trevor's spirit. Will looks at Carlton, who has to admit. Okay, I owe you one. Hillary continues. His name is Scorpius, and I've arranged for a seance. Phil takes the reins this time. Hillary, you don't really believe in this seance mumbo jumbo, do you? Hillary scoffs. Believe in it? I spent $300 for it. Vivian is concerned and shocked. You spent 300 on a seance? Hillary clarifies. Not on the seance. For the seance, I needed another.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, you could have gotten half a tree skirt for that much.

[Danielle Fishel]

Like 1/2 of your tree 30 regular.

[Ryder Strong]

Waste of money. What a waste of money.

[Danielle Fishel]

She adds the $1,000 Scorpius is charging I just put on Daddy's gold card. The audience laughs, but Hillary is thrilled. Now I can say goodbye to Trevor. Will mutters to his nearby uncle. If you ask me, it'd be Cheaper just to dig him up. Hillary explains, I need to bring at least four loved ones to create enough psychic energy to reach Trevor. So what do you guys say? Jeffrey pipes in. I say, thank God I'm not a loved one. Hillary complains, Trevor's bungee accident left everything up in the air. Will starts to chime in with a witty response about being left in the air, but Phil stops him. Hillary insists, I need closure. Vivian volunteers, I for one would be happy to go with you. And I'm sure everyone else here would be too. Wouldn't we? Will shouts, clearly lying. Oh, man, I would, but I've gotta finish my costume. Phil doesn't hesitate. I'll help you. Then Carlton sprints after them. Me too. Hillary is disappointed. I can't believe you people. How could you do this to me? She continues to lay it on thick. The men are starting to feel guilty. I guess Hillary's well being just isn't very important. Vivian says, I guess nobody cares for her the way I do. She tears up and Will jumps up, lip quivering. He promises, I'll go with you, Aunt Viv. I'll go to my party later. Okay? Phil sighs before promising to attend to. When they all look to Carlton for an answer, he shouts, it'll cut into my trick or treating time. The audience erupts in laughter as he throws his arms in the air and gives in. Oh, all right. And he stomps away.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, I just wanna bracket this moment here, because as I watched it, I was like, okay, funny joke, definitely. But the audience really responded to it. And I was like, there's gotta be a reason. And then you see the bloopers and it's like, of course, we've had those moments too, where you finally get through it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

And so everybody's already giggling the whole time. And we're all laughing, and you finally say the line, and it gets this huge laugh because it's like you also got through it. I felt that in the moment, I was like, wow, that was a big laugh for that moment. I thought maybe it was like a.

[Ryder Strong]

Backstory thing that I miss. We established something about him that. I'm not kidding. But you're right, it was.

[Will Friedle]

We all know that moment. It's like. It's like the giggles. Unless you're on a set with a. With a cast, you'll never know what the giggles are like. Unless you get them.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yep. Yep. Phil and Will leave to give Hillary the news. Vivian turns to Ashley with a smirk. Learn from me, child. Then she leaves. Later, in the living room. Vivian and Phil are getting the Halloween goodies together when the doorbell rings. Jeffrey walks into the room in a giant lizard mask with pointy teeth and a huge mouth, exclaiming, the little kitties have arrived. Oh, how I adore dressing up for those ador little ghosts and goblins every year. He opens the door and before the kids can get out their trick or treat, Jeffrey lets out a huge roar that scares them all away. You forgot your candy. He maniacally laughs to himself as he closes the door and then hands the candy basket back to Vivian. Eventually, Vivian speaks up. It's Halloween. It's supposed to be fun for the children. He waves her off. Oh, tell it to Barney. Meanwhile, Ashley's standing on a ladder putting the last of the Halloween decorations up. Will silently appears behind her in a vampire costume, complete with a bright white set of fangs. He leans forward to Ashley and growls in her ear. But the girl isn't fazed. She simply responds, hi, Will. Unfazed, he loves this holiday. Halloween. The only night a year a black man can walk around in this neighborhood with a mask on and not get arrested. Carlton comes running in wearing overalls, a striped shirt, and his hair is spray painted yellow. He brags to his mom, what a night. I made a killing. 26 Milky Ways. And the Democrats say there's a recession. Phil is confused by Carlton's costume. So Carlton explains my idol, Macaulay Culkin. You know why he's my idol? Will chimes in. Why? Because you're the same height. Carlton shakes his head no, because his movies have grossed over half a billion dollars worldwide. Not to mention he's one heck of an actor. I thought we were going to get a Macaulay Culkin. I thought so.

[Ryder Strong]

Cameo.

[Will Friedle]

That would have been great.

[Danielle Fishel]

I. This felt very weird.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. I wonder if. Is it just kind of funny that to be worshiping Macaulay Culkin as a, you know, older teenager?

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

How old is he supposed to be actually?

[Will Friedle]

Carlton?

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. Are they still in high school at this point?

[Will Friedle]

I don't know. College age, Right. Season four maybe? They are still in high school.

[Danielle Fishel]

I don't know where he started high school. I mean, I know. I know Hillary, the oldest daughter, is definitely. She has a job like she's supposed to have a job.

[Will Friedle]

Right. She's out. Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Actually, Tatiana Banks is definitely in school. And I do think. I think Carlton is supposed to still be in high school.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, that makes sense.

[Danielle Fishel]

Gosh, they don't feel that way to me. They feel like college. Yeah. Then Hillary Walks down the stairs. Let's go everyone. I don't want to keep Trevor waiting. Will asks Carlton, what's the rush? It's not like he's going anywhere. And then we're in a creepy graveyard. Ashley and Phil lead the family through an ominously smoky and spooky area. Phil complains, I hate LA smog. Looking around, they wonder where Will went. Then on cue, he pops up from behind a bush screaming bloody murder. Terrifying all his family members, especially Carlton, who lets out a blood curdling scream. Will laughs, half apologizing. I'm sorry. I'm so stupid. With that, they walk towards a cobweb covered old house. And Will gets ready to knock on the door. But before he can start, the door slowly creeps, streaks open on its own. Will grins. We gotta get one of them in the girls locker room.

[Ryder Strong]

Hey.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. You just went to 90s joke. Like purely straight up ridiculous.

[Danielle Fishel]

90S joke does not age well joke. They all walk into the ancient and cluttered home with Carlton admitting, this place is really creepy. Hillary nods. I know. Who would put a deco table on a Persian rug? I think they could have done more to make this creepier. This just looked like a. This just looks like a cluttered house.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, exactly the same thing. It's like, that's a cluttered house.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's just a cluttered house. It should have. I feel like they could have done something.

[Ryder Strong]

Isn't it kind of the point that they're coming from their Bel Air mansion?

[Danielle Fishel]

You know, it actually maybe is just creepy to them.

[Ryder Strong]

Exactly. It's like, okay, it's actually kind of just a house.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, right. Okay.

[Ryder Strong]

But they're like. Yeah, freaking out about. But I guess Will says it's creepy, right? So.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

They all are supposed to think it's creepy. So.

[Will Friedle]

So have, have either of you ever been to a seance?

[Danielle Fishel]

I mean, I've had psychic readings before. I've never been to like a. You know, like you're going like, you're.

[Will Friedle]

Going there to like.

[Danielle Fishel]

I've had readings by mediums.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah, I want to. Do they have. They have a seance. A Houdini seance at the Magic Castle. Like a yearly tradition. Because, you know, when Houdini died, he told his wife to always hold seances once a year on his birthday. So he could, if there was an afterlife, he would come back. He promised he would come back during a seance. So cool.

[Will Friedle]

And has he?

[Ryder Strong]

No, because his whole point was that all psychics are cheats and mediums are liars. So he was trying to prove that by saying, will, have you ever been to a psychic?

[Will Friedle]

I have. I've never done a seance, but I've been to a psychic. And one of my favorite stories ever was I had my big Halloween party, We hired a psychic, and the guy was giving readings in the other room. And at one point he said, this is your house, right? I'd love to. Love to give you a reading. You know, you paid for the whole night. I was like, sure. And I went and sat down, and every single thing he said was wrong. I mean, like, comically, where he's like, so what's it like? You're having problems in your relationship? I'm like, no, single as can be. It was like that kind of thing. It's like, well, you did recently lose your sister. Nope. Two brothers, both alive and well. It was like. It was bad. By the fifth question, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna go back and start drinking again. Thank you so much.

[Ryder Strong]

I got my palm read at a Renaissance fair when I was like, right. I guess it was probably first season of Boy Meets World.

[Will Friedle]

Was it a ye olde palm reader?

[Ryder Strong]

It was so funny because she described, like, she was describing me based on, you know, like, oh, you're this type of person and this is what you do in life. And. And it was Shawn Hunter to a.

[Danielle Fishel]

T. Oh, my gosh.

[Ryder Strong]

And it was. And it was so funny. Cause now I think about it, I'm like, right. What she was doing was just reading me as a person and like, my vibe. And I think, like, I probably just gave off a vibe. Cause she was like, you're always in trouble. You never, you know, you're. You're a real. You're a troublemaker. You never want to listen to authority. And I'm like, no, I freaking love school. I, you know, love my teachers. I have no idea what you're talking about. And it was like, right.

[Danielle Fishel]

Leather jackets.

[Ryder Strong]

It was something about me, I think, that, you know, like, I always got cast as a brat before Boy Meets World. And then I think, you know, right around the time Boy Meets World, I came off as like this little mischievous, like, troublemaker. It was my vibe. She was. She was cold reading.

[Chrissy Teigen]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

You were also probably dressed like some kind of like medieval vagrant or something like that. I don't know if I was one of Robin Hood's right hand men. You know, it's like, you know, you seem like you're swashbuckling, like. Yes, that's interesting.

[Ryder Strong]

I am, because I have a sword.

[Danielle Fishel]

So she yells out for Scorpius, but he's nowhere to be found. Then some nearby curtains open and Scorpius appears in a billowing robe and a fortune teller hat that he shouts, I am Scorpius the Magnificent. And waves his arms around to add gravitas. I see all. I know all. But when he notices the family, he bluntly asks, who are you? Hillary starts to say, they're the Banks. But before she can finish, Scorpius interrupts her. Stop. Don't tell me you're the Banks family. Hillary gasps, wow. But her family is visibly unimpressed with that. Scorpius tells them to sit and motions to a nearby table where the chairs magically move away from the table. Hillary gushes, I love when a man pulls my chair out. They all take a seat and Scorpius lights the candles on the table with a flick of his finger. They all gasp and awe. But Phil is still skeptical. Scorpius announces, make ready to contact the spirits. Will jokes with his uncle. Seems like somebody made contact with one too many spirits. And motions that the psychic is drunk. Ashley asks Scorpius if he believes he can actually reach Trevor. He responds, if he's up there, I'll find him. Will asks, while you're up there, see if you can find Marvin Gaye and find out what was really going on. And he celebrates his joke with Uncle Phil. Scorpius, unamused by the gag, proceeds with the seance. He has everyone join hands and then chants up to the spirit guides as he calls out to them. The lights in the house flicker. Will comments, seems like some medium hasn't paid their electric bill. Scorpius's body begins to flail as he declares, I'm getting a message from the spirit. They wish me to tell you. And then his voice turns a little angry. Shut your pie hole. Scorpius continues, I feel a presence in the room. A tall, good looking man whose life revolves around the news. The table begins to shake and Hillary screams out, that's Trevor. I know his vibration. The audience roars at this joke. Is this. Is this a sex joke?

[Will Friedle]

It is. Yeah, it's fully a sex joke. She sees the table shaking and she he yeah, yeah, okay, that's. It was absolutely a sex joke.

[Danielle Fishel]

Got it. Hillary starts passionately speaking to her deceased almost fiance, Trevor. I think about you constantly. Scorpius answers in a low newscaster voice. And I about you. Hillary yells out, I wish I could see you. And Scorpius agrees. I wish I could see you too. Hillary gets serious. There's something I've been wanting to ask you since the day you died. Do you know where I left my black suede purse, which I thought was going to be part of the story?

[Ryder Strong]

There is no more story. There is no more story.

[Danielle Fishel]

None of this ever. None of this ever plays. None of this ever matters. Because literally, that's really smart. That, like, if he does. I also thought maybe they were going to leave some ambiguity about whether or not he was actually coming back. Yeah, and then. No, Scorpius admits. Now let me think. Oh, at this point, Will's had it. And he pulls his hand away from the circle. I could be sucking on some honey neck bone right now.

[Ryder Strong]

Honey.

[Danielle Fishel]

Because he's a vampire. Some honeys like a. Like he's calling her a honey.

[Will Friedle]

Right? Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Neck bone.

[Will Friedle]

Scorpion name for a sauce.

[Danielle Fishel]

And honey's Neck bone.

[Will Friedle]

Honey neck bone.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, you're right. Scorpius stands up and dramatically wails. The connection is fading. His eyes widen as he shouts, I'm losing it. I'm losing it. It Will mimics the flailing. Oh, like you ever had it. Scorpius shouts into the void. Come back. Hillary begs Trevor, don't go. Alas. Scorpius lets out a big oof. And plops back into his chair. Trevor has left the building, the lights turn back on, the tables stop shaking and everyone looks disappointed, especially Hillary. I didn't get a chance to say goodbye. Ashley asks if they can just try again. He explains, I couldn't possibly traverse the void again. They all stand up to leave, but he quickly adds, Tonight, that is. Of course, there's always tomorrow. Carlton scoffs and Ms. Saved by the Bell? I don't think so. Scorpius runs over to his big scheduling book. I could fit you in around seven, right between the exorcism and step class. Hillary lights up, but Phil declares, I don't think so. And I think I'd like my thousand dollars back, please. Scorpius responds, I'm terribly sorry, but the spirits don't give refunds. He points to a wall and a scroll magically rolls out that reads, no refunds. Will intervenes, scrupulous, I think you should just give my uncle his money back. We all had a good laugh, but this whole thing is bogus. And you, sir, are fake. Scorpius narrows his eyes and angrily explains, nobody calls me the F word. He waves his arms and shouts gibberish towards Will, who finishes his sentence. With lyrics from Lady Marmalade. Gitchy, gitchy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

That's funny. See, I thought I'd, like. It would have been stronger if Will ruined the seance.

[Danielle Fishel]

He did. He broke his.

[Will Friedle]

He broke his hand.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, it is.

[Will Friedle]

That's why.

[Ryder Strong]

That's why, specifically. Okay. But he's just sort of like, I'm out of here. I don't know. Like, I wanted him to, like, actually, like, ruin it in, like, a.

[Will Friedle]

No, this is.

[Ryder Strong]

This is all. Yeah. Just, you know, or been. Because as it is, we're still on Will's side. So when he gets hexed, we're like, well, that's unfair, or whatever. Whereas if he actually had really hurt her feelings. I don't know. Yeah, whatever.

[Danielle Fishel]

I'm just creating story and character. They were gonna make it. I thought they were gonna give it some ambiguity where, you know, where did I leave my black suede purse? Or something that then he does answer.

[Ryder Strong]

Right?

[Danielle Fishel]

And you're like. And she's like, it really is him. If she really believes it. And then she ruins it.

[Will Friedle]

Right. I thought it was actually gonna be even more convoluted than that. I thought the spirit of the dead guy was gonna take over Will's body.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, that could have been.

[Will Friedle]

And it was like, for the rest of the episode, he's, like, going in and out of Newscaster Guy and he scaring him and things like that. Like, that's where I thought it was going. So it was strange then. Yeah. Big set piece, though. The table shaking and lights coming on and off and all that kind of stuff.

[Ryder Strong]

I mean, it was fun Halloween stuff.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Fun romp. Fun romp.

[Danielle Fishel]

Scorpius growls, from this day forward, you will bring evil to all those in your presence. You will end up alone and forever hexed. He explains to Will, I placed a curse on you.

[Will Friedle]

I love that change, by the way, where he does the whole, I placed. I placed a curse on you. It was a great transition. I placed a curse on you.

[Danielle Fishel]

Will weirded out, brushes him off. And then we're back at the house. Ashley is telling Jeffrey that the whole thing gave her the creeps. She wonders, do you really think a person can be cursed? He asks, how do you think I ended up here? Which I thought was a very funny joke.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Danielle Fishel]

Will enters and announces that he has a party to hit. If I hook up with some babe tonight, I promise to practice. Safe hex. Ha.

[Ryder Strong]

Wow.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hillary isn't amused. This isn't funny. You ruined my seance. Carlton reminds her, forget the Seance. He may have ruined our lives. Once this hex kicks in, Will responds, there is no such thing as a. Oh, my God, Carlton, what's that hideous thing growing out of your neck? Carlton freaks out. Where? Where? As he frantically checks his neck, Will laughs. Oh, never mind. It's just your head.

[Will Friedle]

It's such a sitcom joke. It is. Like, that was the. The most sitcom of all sitcom jokes in this one. Yeah, it was just that joke right there. But I also loved how none of them, especially as the show progressed, are taking any of this seriously. I know, and it was great. Like, even, like the lines they're throwing out, they're putting little lilts to it. It was just like a tongue in cheek kind of thing all the way around, which was just it.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah, you could tell they were all having fun.

[Will Friedle]

Seriously. Yeah. It would not have been the same as what they came up with, which wouldn't have landed.

[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Danielle Fishel]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Chrissy Teigen]

I've never done a live recording before podcast. I've just never done it this week.

On the bright side, Chrissy Teigen, like you've never heard of before.

I think I showed the messiness of life, like, even before kids. So, like, it was kind of a natural thing just to show every part of it. After kids too.

From viral moments to real life motherhood, Chrissy opens up about what it means to live life out loud, even when it's hard.

When Miles was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, I remember feeling like, okay, I want to get this right for everybody that's depending on us.

Chrissy talks about turning fear into advocacy, building community, and finding joy in a very full house.

I had four kids for a reason. I love the chaos of it.

This live conversation is raw, funny, and full of heart. Don't miss it. Listen to the bright side on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sophia]

I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her.

[Will Friedle]

Well, wait a minute, Sophia. How do you know she's a cult leader?

[Sophia]

Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm not afraid of a scary story week on the okay Story podcast, so you'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor has been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals, and now my ceiling is collapsing. I try to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they may be part of a cult.

[Will Friedle]

Hold up, Sophia. A real life cult? And what is a dirt ritual?

[Danielle Fishel]

No clue.

[Sophia]

But according to this person, contractors are tearing down the patio to find out what's going on with their ceiling, and her neighbors are not happy.

[Will Friedle]

Well, she needs to report them asap.

[Sophia]

She did, and now they've been confronting her in really creepy ways all the time.

[Will Friedle]

So do we find out if this person survives their neighborhood cult or not?

[Sophia]

To hear the explosive finale, listen to the okay Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Narrator/Host of Hell in Heaven podcast]

In the new podcast, Hell in Heaven, two young Americans move to the colon Costa Rican jungle to start over. But one will end up dead, the other tried for murder not once. People went wild, not twice, stunned, but three times. John and Ann Bender are rich and attractive, and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream starts to crumble and our couple retreat from reality.

[Ryder Strong]

They lose it. They actually lose it.

[Danielle Fishel]

They sort of went nuts.

[Narrator/Host of Hell in Heaven podcast]

Until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast costs.

[Will Friedle]

The Crying Wolf podcast is the story of two men bound by injustice, of a city haunted by its secrets and the quest for redemption, no matter the price.

[Ryder Strong]

White victim, female, pretty, wealthy, black defendant.

[Will Friedle]

Chicago, a white woman's murder. A black man behind bars for a crime he didn't commit.

[Ryder Strong]

I had 90 years for killing somebody I have never seen.

[Danielle Fishel]

He says the police are his friends. And then that's it. They turn on him. A corrupt detective, how he was interrogated, the techniques. That's crazy.

[Will Friedle]

A snitch and a life stolen.

[Danielle Fishel]

They got the wrong guy.

[Will Friedle]

But on the inside, Lee Harris finds an ally in his celly, Robert, who swears to tell the truth about what happened to Lee and free his friend.

[Ryder Strong]

And if you're with me, your goal is. I'll take care of you. I'm gonna be with you. You stuck with me for life.

[Will Friedle]

Listen to the Crying Wolf podcast starting on October 22nd on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Danielle Fishel]

Will then tries to reassure Hillary Wherever Trevor is, he loves you and he misses you. Carlton groans, what about the hex? Will responds by calling him Macaulay, a reference to his newly bleached blonde hair in his costume. Then the phone rings and Phil answers it and we get some facting. He shouts, what is this, some kind of joke? And he threatens to call his lawyer. He throws the phone on the counter and reveals the DA Says he has proof that I took bribes. I've been suspended from the bench. My reputation is destroyed. I'm ruined.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh my God. One phone call. 30 seconds.

[Will Friedle]

Whole life's over.

[Danielle Fishel]

Carlton places his hands onto his face and screams, perfectly recreating Macaulay Culkin's Home Alone Zane. And then we go to a tense commercial break. We're back in the Banks's living room. A very depressed Phil is sitting on the couch in his pajamas, staring at the floor. Will hesitantly enters. Good morning. Did you talk to your lawyer yet? Phil shakes his head. I don't know why, but the DA has it in for me. I could get 10 years. Will can't believe it. Then Carlton comes walking in. Now with a rainbow hairdo. He tries to console his dad. I just want you to know that regardless of what happens, I'll always be at your side. Will and Phil exchange concerned looks, and Will asks, what the hell happened to your hair? Carlton smirks, oh no you don't. I'm not falling for that again. As he walks away, he passes a mirror and does a double take. Like what? He looks like a snow cone. Then it clicks. The hex. Phil argues, that's not it. That gold stuff you sprayed on your head must have done something to your hair. Just wash it out. Carlton insists, I did last night. Then from outside, we hear Ashley screaming, help. Help. We go to the backyard and she is getting pelted with tennis balls, begging for someone to turn off the machine. Phil quickly grabs her and brings her inside to safety. Meanwhile, Will walks outside and starts gleefully hitting the balls with a cooking pan. He complains, what do you mean that was in. And then in the kitchen, Jeffrey scrambles into the room and shouts, what's going on? I heard screams. Carlton explains, Ashley was attacked by the tennis ball machine. Jeffrey sighs with relief. Thank goodness. For a moment there, I thought you'd found those Polaroids of me in a tutu. He sheepishly admits, New Year's Eve. A fellow gets crazy. Meanwhile, Ashley thinks she may have sprained her ankle and the big tournament is tomorrow. She wonders why the machine would go haywire like that. Carlton quickly comes up with an explanation. It's the you know what? He warns. It's going to pick them off one by one until they'll end up on Unsolved Mysteries. Will demands that he shut up about the hex. It's all just one big coincidence. And then there's a loud knock at the door. It's a sharply dressed woman, and Jeffrey asks how he can help her. She sternly asks, are you Geoffrey Butler? He grins. Yes, I am. And you must be the woman of my dreams. She smacks a pair of handcuffs on him and he rejoices. You are.

[Ryder Strong]

That was a great turn.

[Danielle Fishel]

She introduces herself as Agent Wanda Davis from the Immigration and Naturalization Office. She says, jeffrey is in this country illegally. Will begs his uncle for help, but the agent won't hear a word. She declares that the Butler is being deported. Carlton is sick.

[Ryder Strong]

Oh, God.

[Danielle Fishel]

The hex has gone international. Phil promises Jeffrey that he'll get him the best lawyer in town. But Jeffrey insists, I don't need a lawyer. What I need is a judge who can be bought off, like you.

[Will Friedle]

It's like his last parting shot.

[Danielle Fishel]

Phil loses it. I was framed, I tell you. Framed. Carlton grabs Will. This is all your fault. Will insists this has nothing to do with the hex. But Phil doesn't know what to believe anymore. On cue, Vivian shrieks from the other room. And then in the living room, Vivian's screaming at the top of her lungs, pointing to Hilary kissing a man on the couch. Carlton shouts, jazz. Vivian begs Phil to do something. Jazz smiles at his biggest detractor. Hey, dad, now that I'm going to be in the family, maybe we could talk about my trust fund. Phil tells him to repeat his sentence. He's convinced he didn't hear him right. But Hillary happily announces, jazz and I are getting married. Phil responds, over his dead body. Hillary tries to stay positive. Doesn't anybody care what I think? They all shout, no.

[Ryder Strong]

So is Jazz. Is he established as like a. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

That'S what I'm saying. But that's what's really interesting writing. Having never seen this, though, you already know the relationship. Like, I didn't need to see anything else. I already know exactly how they feel about him. The idea that he's probably been hitting on her the entire time, that she's always turning him down because he's awful for whatever reason. Like, we got it all.

[Danielle Fishel]

Just lazy, right? I mean, he's just like a lazy. He's the lazy friend, right?

[Will Friedle]

But you just. You got it. You didn't need to see it. It's like, okay. They've obviously established his character as the idea that they're together now is life shocking. As bad as him going to jail for. For, you know, bribes. So really interesting.

[Danielle Fishel]

Hillary smiles. Well, Jazz does. And that's why I've fallen for him, she gushes. To think all these years I never appreciated you. I love you, schnookums, jazz answers. Right back at you. Hillicums. They do a signature high five and snap. A trademark of him and Will on the show. Ashley shakes her head in disgust. I'll be in the kitchen throwing up. Hillary exclaims. We're gonna name our first son after you, Daddy. Phil is petrified. Jazz tells her, I thought we could get started tonight. They both giggle while the family continues to stand there in shock. Finally, Phil grabs Jazz by the back of his shirt to throw him out of the house. Another staple of the sitcom. And then we cut to the front door, where instead of Jazz in his usual flying position, it's Phil getting kicked out. The opposite of what we're used to.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Danielle Fishel]

Inside, Vivian grabs Will. This is all your fault. You got us hexed. I want you packed and out of here by tonight. Will tries to convince her otherwise. This is me. Your little Willy. The adorable, charismatic, sometimes troublesome, yet overall wonderful young man you've grown to love. Will promises he'll go back to Scorpius and get them all. Unhexed, Carlton points Will toward the door and begs him in a creepy voice, hurry, hurry, hurry.

[Will Friedle]

It was moments like that, and then the way Will runs, like the way he grabbed his jacket, and he does this weird kind of like funny run out there. They're just playing with every moment. It was so much fun.

[Danielle Fishel]

Having so much fun, for sure. Back at Scorpius's house, which is now lacking the smoke and cobwebs, Will raises his hand to knock on the front door, but this time it doesn't open on its own. Finally, he just presses the doorbell.

[Will Friedle]

Did anybody else think somebody else entirely was going to answer the door? I thought the guy, yeah, anybody, would have been great. It was going to be like Scorpius wasn't there and has never been there. Like that's how I thought it was going to be. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah.

[Danielle Fishel]

Inside, Scorpius, now dressed in a sweater vest and glasses, is quietly reading a book. Even the house is rearranged to look neat and orderly. He calls out, it's open, Mother. Come on in. Will is unable to hide his surprise at how clean and spacious the place now is. Scorpius spots him and stands up in surprise. Who are you? Will reintroduces himself and asks Scorpius. The man explains, that's my last name. I'm Ralph Scorpius. What are you doing in my house? Will laughs. It's me. Remember? The vampire? Ralph's eyes widen in terror and Will tries to jog his memory. You remember the seance, the hex, the gitchy gitchy? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Ralph nervously backs away. Take anything you want. Just don't hurt me. Will insists he didn't come here for trouble. He just wanted to apologize. Eyes, Will looks around. What happened to this place? What happened to you? Ralph reiterates, anything you see here is yours and tries to hand him a vase. Will responds now with a quiver in his voice. I don't know what's going on here. I just came to ask you to break the hex. All right? Will shouts, I'm begging you, man. And he starts to sob. Why are you playing with me? Ralph stays quiet, so Will lays it all out. I'm losing my family. I think I'm losing my mind. Why can't you just break the hex? Ralph inches near a telephone as Will screams, break the hex. Ralph quickly shuffles out of the room and Will stays hysterical, pounding the couch pillows and crying, break the man. And then we fade into the pool house. We transition to Will in bed, asleep in his PJs. He's pounding on his pillow as he chants, break the hex, man.

[Will Friedle]

Break the hex.

[Danielle Fishel]

Carlton runs in with concern and shakes Will awake from the nightmare. Will awakens and is happy to see Carlton's hair. It's back to normal. Will touches it to confirm. Carlton gets defensive. Kind of dream were you having, mister? Will tries to explain that they were hexed and the whole family was turning against him. He can't believe how real it was. Carlton a little weirded out. I'm gonna go have some breakfast. Wanna go? Will instantly cheers up. Breakfast with our family, right? Let's get to our family. And then in the kitchen, Will enters and wishes everyone a happy Halloween. And Phil asks Vivian about those two thousand dollar flowers. Will starts to realize this is the same day as his nightmare. Everything is exactly the same. He slowly starts to back away as Ashley brings up Trevor's accident. Will begs, let's talk about something else here, all right? But no one hears him. Carlton even makes the same joke about Hillary being crushed. But not more crushed than Trevor. Will tries his best to alter this reality, bringing up the Lakers to change the subject, but to no avail. The conversation is the exact same, even to the point where Will recites Jeffrey's line in unison with him. Will lets out a petrified scream. Then Hillary walks in and predictably asks the family to guess who she's going out with tonight Night. Will dashes towards the door. Let me out. Let me out. Phil asks his daughter who. And Will begs her. Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky, and Mike, mentioning some members of New Edition for those of you who didn't know.

[Will Friedle]

Oh. Oh, that was a thing. Okay.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah. And it's a. It's a line in a song too. Ronnie, Bobby, Ricky and Mike, if I like a girl, who cares who you like? Okay. Hillary exclaims Trevor. And Will looks out the window and endlessly shrieks, no. And then our tag. We get a car. That's where I was, Looper.

[Ryder Strong]

So wait, hold on. Is the hex still going?

[Danielle Fishel]

We don't know.

[Ryder Strong]

You get to relive your day. Wouldn't that be now?

[Will Friedle]

Groundhog Day? It's like, now you. Because now you can stop it.

[Ryder Strong]

Right? He could just go to the psychic and.

[Will Friedle]

Or not go to the psychic at all. Be like, I'm not going.

[Danielle Fishel]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

Yeah. I don't. I don't know what the.

[Will Friedle]

I don't get what they were going for either. I would also love to see the script because I would love to see how long they're supposed to hold on him saying, take the hex off. Just get rid of the hex. Because it probably should have been two or three, but they held on him.

[Ryder Strong]

For like four minutes. I feel like that's where the story just ends. Well, just stopped. Yeah. Because there's no way to stop the hex.

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Ryder Strong]

Then there's just waking up from a dream. It was all a dream. Then another waking up from. It's just like.

[Will Friedle]

I thought Scorpius, the guy who was playing Scorpius, was gonna walk out and then come back dressed like Scorpius to like release him from something, but it just stopped.

[Danielle Fishel]

This might make me sound really stupid. I'm just tired. Just cut me some slack. I'm tired. I thought while I was watching it, the Scorpius was supposed to still be a psychic medium at night, just a fake one. And we were seeing him in his day to day. But now when I'm reading it back, I'm realizing he's. He's act. He's actually saying, that's my last name. What are you doing? And he's it. He has this feeling of I'm not a. I've never pretended to be a medium. Like, that whole experience never happened.

[Will Friedle]

Right.

[Danielle Fishel]

And he's actually afraid of Will. Not like, oh, I have to turn. I must have given you. I must have put a hex on you in my character. Like, there's none of that.

[Ryder Strong]

No, the point is that he's not. Like, he's not somebody that they saw spirit pretending to be him.

[Will Friedle]

But none of it matters. It was a dream.

[Ryder Strong]

It's a romp.

[Danielle Fishel]

It's a romp.

[Will Friedle]

God.

[Ryder Strong]

Guys, can I suggest that it's a.

[Will Friedle]

Twilight Zone episode for Fresh Prince? It is. Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

It's just. It's just like a wacky.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Ryder Strong]

You know, but then I kind of wish it went a little wackier, honestly. Like, I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

It just very abruptly ended. It was.

[Ryder Strong]

I wonder if there was a real tag. And then when they just realized that they could put these bloopers and they were like, forget it.

[Will Friedle]

Let's just do that.

[Ryder Strong]

And the tag might have wrapped some of it up where he's like, maybe in a dream over and over. I don't know.

[Danielle Fishel]

Well, we get a Carlton blooper while our Alfonso cannot get through the line. It'll cut into my trick or treating without laughing. We get multiple takes of him trying, but now everyone in the scene is breaking. And I absolutely love those tags. I stand by them. I make me laugh so much. And I wish more shows did them more often. I think we should see way more bloopers in tv. I just think it's so fun.

[Will Friedle]

There's apparently the Lorne Michaels apparently hates when the actors break snl. And that's the best part of the show. It's like Carol Burnett watching them break. That's what you want to see. You want to see them not being able to. That's what people are watching when they're Googling SNL clips. They're Googling the. That people are losing it. That's the fun part.

[Danielle Fishel]

I know.

[Will Friedle]

So, yeah, it's. I love these things. I agree with you 100%. They're phenomenal.

[Ryder Strong]

Well, can I just say, isn't there, like, a weird irony in the reality that. That Will Smith went from being the Everyman poking fun at these crazy rich people to probably one of the wealthier. His life makes no sense to the Everyman. Like, because of this role and his subsequent career, he is on another planet. As far as his lifestyle, he could.

[Will Friedle]

Buy and sell the banks a thousand times over and probably is very out.

[Ryder Strong]

Of touch with the Every person spirits since the age of 7, 16, or whenever he started the show. I just think there's a. There's a. There's a really intense irony there and that we still think of him. I think a lot of people still look to him as like a sort of one of us. Every man.

[Danielle Fishel]

How much is a banana? $10.

[Will Friedle]

What is a plumber? Yeah, exactly.

[Danielle Fishel]

Thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. As always, you can follow us on Instagram Pod Meets World show. You can send us your emails. Pod Meets World show at. And we've got merch.

[Will Friedle]

His wife left him because he was a cat. His son tries to run, but it's really, really sad. One leg's longer and that's just mad. Let's all give it up for Limp.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Will Friedle]

There's been like four drafts since we've been working.

[Danielle Fishel]

Will send us out.

[Will Friedle]

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[Will Friedle]

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[Kal Penn]

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[Will Friedle]

That was dumb.

[Danielle Fishel]

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[Johnny Knoxville]

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[Ryder Strong]

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[Kal Penn]

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[Sophia]

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[Will Friedle]

Wait a minute, Sophia, how do you know she's a cult leader?

[Sophia]

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[Will Friedle]

Hold up a real life cult and what is a dirt ritual?

[Sophia]

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