Zapped

Summary

Pod Meets World: "Zapped" (October 14, 2025)

Host: Will Friedle

Guest Co-Host: Sabrina Bryan

Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts
Episode Theme: A nostalgic, irreverent deep-dive into the 2014 Disney Channel Original Movie (DCOM) "Zapped," starring Zendaya, blending snarky recap, personal reflection, and pop-culture analysis.

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Episode Overview

Will Friedle and Sabrina Bryan revisit the sci-fi teen comedy "Zapped," starring Zendaya, discussing its bizarre premise, behind-the-scenes context, and both the highlights and disastrous low-points of the DCOM. They critique its depiction of gender, its confusing rules, and debate the messaging for its young target audience—all while delivering unfiltered opinions (“This is the worst movie we’ve watched so far” – Will). Fans of "Boy Meets World," DCOMs, or Zendaya will find both affectionate throwback moments and incisive commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Episode Breakdown

1. Zendaya Power—But Even She Can’t Save It

[04:49] Sabrina on Zendaya:
"Oh, you know it. … I've always, from the first time I watched her, just have thought this girl is a star. … We got to see how magnificent she is as a dancer."

• Both hosts acknowledge Zendaya's star power; her performance and dancing are virtually the only bright spots in the film.
• Will finds the dance scenes "pointless," but Sabrina admits replaying them on YouTube, highlighting Zendaya's career trajectory from Disney to Hollywood A-lister.
• Will credits Zendaya, but not the material:
  [11:00] "None of the acting was bad ... The story, the script—there was nothing about this movie that I liked."

2. Movie Background: Premise, Origin, and the DCOM Machine

[07:13]

• The movie is based on the YA novel "Boys Are Dogs" by Leslie Margolis, which the hosts consider a "man-hating" and "on the nose, awful title."
• Discussion of DCOM tropes and "Zapped" fitting squarely into the made-in-Canada, assembly-line Disney TV pipeline.
• Both hosts reminisce about their own favorite childhood book series (Boxcar Children, Choose Your Own Adventure).

3. "Zapped" Plot Breakdown & Scene-by-Scene Recap

Throughout [21:46 – 73:08]

• Opening Act:
  • Post-wedding, Zoe (Zendaya) and mom move in with new stepdad and three gross stepbrothers plus a dog. Her life becomes chaos due to boys' stereotypically disgusting behavior.
  • Multiple scenes of slapstick food disasters—Zoe gets covered in chocolate, powder, pancake mix ("We are five minutes in … she’s been covered twice" [23:07] Will).
• School Stereotypes:
  • Sabrina and Will skewer the movie’s depiction of high school: shirtless jocks lifting weights outside, smelly cliques, and boys behaving absurdly.
  • Will: "Did you often find guys with their shirts off in the parking lot just lifting weights on full benches?" [25:29]
  • Sabrina questions Disney’s costuming double standards (lots of "man nipples").
• The Magic App:
  • Zoe’s phone—with a dog control app ("Listen and Obey")—gets zapped, now lets her command all boys like dogs.
  • Repeated questions about the app’s inconsistent rules: Is it proximity? Voice command? Button pressing?
    • "We need the rules, people. We need the rules." [40:04] Will
• Morality and Mayhem:
  • Zoe uses the app to fix her life: brothers become polite, school boys clean up their act, dance tryouts become a snap.
  • The app only works on boys; attempts on girls fail ("because girls are too catty"), a point the hosts mock as regressive.
  • The girls debate: What would they actually use such a power for? Both struggle to find an ethical or appealing answer.
• Romantic B-Plot:
  • Zoe flirts with "bad boy" Jackson Kahl. Their scenes together are the only genuine moments.
  • Both hosts wish the entire film focused on their awkward, cute chemistry. [48:34] Will: "Just them sitting and talking—make this the movie."
• Climax:
  • Rival Taylor steals the app, uses it for public humiliation.
  • Bizarre, embarrassing “dog” scene where Zoe and her family bark, beg, and pant in the gym—called “one of the most awkward scenes … top five most awkward scenes on Disney” [84:09] Sabrina.
  • Sabrina and Will question why no one grabs the phone back or interrupts the chaos.
• Message & Resolution:
  • The final message: you can’t control others, you must accept people as they are.
  • Hosts call this "a terrible message … not what you'd normally see on the channel" ([64:56] Sabrina).
  • Zoe smashes the phone, everyone is “released.” The dance battle is resolved without magic (Zendaya’s skills, not the app, win the day).
  • An after-credits stinger teases the cursed app’s return.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the film’s logic and tone:
  • Will: "Whoever wrote [this] didn’t understand boys or men at all. You’re either a smelly idiot or a cool guy who also plays chess and wears leather." [29:50]
  • Sabrina: "It felt like 100,000 minutes long." [09:38]
  • Will: "This is possibly—no, I'm going to say it—the worst movie we've watched so far, in my opinion." [11:00]
• On Disney standards:
  • Sabrina: "I had to wear leggings under every single skirt that I ever wore on the channel. Why can these guys be half naked?" [25:44]
• On the pinnacle of cringe:
  • Sabrina: "This is like on the top five most awkward scenes, like, on Instagram … the dog thing and they're all … join in." [84:09]
• On Zendaya’s talent:
  • Sabrina: "Zendaya was just, like, mesmerizing. She's a star. … I wish I'd gone to the show when she was on Dancing with the Stars because she's just so good." [71:55]
• On the film’s ultimate message:
  • Will: "The message is terrible. … This does not in any way to me reflect what you would normally see on the channel. It's just … weird." [64:56]
• On final ratings:
  • Sabrina: "I'm giving this a 4.5 confusing after credit scenes." [90:44]
  • Will: "I'm giving this 2 confusing after credit scenes." [91:44]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:49] Zendaya Appreciation & Career Overview
• [07:13] Book Origin & DCOM Production Notes
• [09:38] Initial Reactions to the Movie
• [21:46] Start of Scene-by-Scene Recap
• [25:29–27:08] Over-the-Top High School Stereotypes
• [38:52] The Magic App and Its Inconsistent Logic
• [43:15] Gender, Control, and Dubious Channel Messaging
• [48:34] Sabrina & Will Praise Zendaya-Jackson Chemistry
• [64:56] Final Message Critique – “Terrible message”
• [71:55] Dance-Off Scenes and Zendaya’s Star Moment
• [84:09] The Infamous "Dog Scene"
• [90:44] and [91:44] Ratings and Final Thoughts

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Tone & Format

• Tone: Sarcastic, affectionate, but sharply critical; plenty of friendly banter and industry inside jokes.
• Language: Faithful to the podcasters’ original words, with direct quotes highlighted for impact.

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Conclusion

"Zapped" fails to live up to DCOM charm or comedic potential, according to Will and Sabrina. While Zendaya’s natural charisma and dance talent shine, the story, logic, and messaging leave much to be desired. Both agree: if you want to understand why Disney Channel nostalgia persists, better to revisit a different movie from the era.

Next Episode: HalloweenTown 2

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Additional Highlights

• App Name Game Segment ([80:04–83:16]): Will and Sabrina play a game matching app original names to current tech brands; Will scores a perfect 5 out of 5.
• Sabrina Sees ([83:20–85:39]): Sabrina notes the costuming quirks (Zendaya’s blazers; Rachel’s signature hats) and questions if the villains' handshake became viral.
• Producer Insights ([86:36]): Producer Lisa weighs in that non-Disney-produced DCOMs (like "Zapped," "Radio Rebel") lack "the same magic."

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Watched

"Zapped" is a wild ride but mostly unforgettable for the wrong reasons. If you’re tuning in for nostalgia and Zendaya, enjoy her charm—then move on. The hosts’ take: skip the movie, but don’t skip the podcast chat.

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Transcript

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[Will Friedle]

Hi Sabrina.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Hey, Will.

[Ramos]

Okay, quick question.

[Will Friedle]

What's the app on your phone you use the most?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Ugh, you're gonna look so horribly down on me. But it's definitely my Instagram.

[Will Friedle]

Is it really? Oh, wow.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Because other than that, I Mean, I'm on like a Tetris kick. Other than that, I'm not really on my phone that much or of course it's like my camera, whatever game I'm on. Actually, you know what, hold on. I don't feel like I use my phone that much. I do go on Instagram. I probably at this point right now am using my audiobooks app more than my Instagram. I'm on that. I love throwing on my audiobook and like, or like I heart and like listening to like a podcast. But I'm not familiar with them. No. You're not familiar with that?

[Will Friedle]

Not familiar with iHeart? Never heard of that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But other than that, like, unless I'm working or whatever, I think that's kind of the only apps I use.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But I've got a bunch of them, which is ridiculous.

[Will Friedle]

Oh yeah, I've got 52 apps too. Like a thousand.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Use any of them? What about you, since you're not an.

[Will Friedle]

Instagram that I use 8 to 10 hours every single day. And it's my clock app because I use it as my clock.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, okay.

[Will Friedle]

Like I sleep with my phone next to me with my, with my clock app.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh my gosh.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I have never seen. Oh.

[Will Friedle]

So when I travel, you can make it lighter or darker. So when I travel I always have the same. I look, I have a same clock and alarm everywhere I go at my house, when I travel, whatever I do.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, I use my phone for my clock too, for like my, my wake up call.

[Will Friedle]

There you go. Flock app. There you go.

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

There you go.

[Will Friedle]

You're right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's true.

[Will Friedle]

That brings us perfectly to today's wonderful film. But first, welcome back to Magical Rewind, the show that makes you want to grab your friends, your PJs and your popcorn and go back to a time when all the houses were smart. The wave, tsunamis, and the high school's musical. I'm Will Friedle.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And I'm Sabrina Bryan.

[Will Friedle]

Well, nothing says Disney Channel like manipulating men with your smartphone. So this week we're diving into the 2014 sci fi comedy Zapped so starring one of Hollywood's biggest modern day names. And it's just one name at that. Zendaya. Sabrina, are you a Zendaya fan?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, you know it. The last time we covered one of her movies, I, I'm a huge, Like, I love her. I've, I just, I have always, from the first time I watched her, just have thought this girl is a star. I mean she, she is, she's just unreal. And Then this one, unlike the other one, we got like a small hint of her dancing ability. This movie we got to see how magnificent she is as a dancer.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. In a stupid, pointless scene that meant.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Nothing to anything to anyone, to and including me. But I don't care. Like, I would watch that section over and over again.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I would. I think she's so great, it made me actually go on YouTube, start downloading all of her Dancing with the Stars clips. And I.

[Will Friedle]

Was she on Dancing with the Stars?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, yeah. She murdered it. And I don't. I think it was a. I think. Oh, Lisa's. No. Okay. I was gonna say, I think it was a classic. Unfortunate thing that tends to happen on Dancing with the Stars is the best dancer doesn't win.

[Will Friedle]

Right. Where they gave it to somebody who dances on TikTok and then claims she's not professional. I get it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, the claws.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, don't get me started. Don't get me started. Don't get me started. All the bets are off when it's about my best friend. Like, oh, yeah. So don't get me. Don't get me. I get it.

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

I get.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I get it.

[Will Friedle]

I agree. She's a star. But we will get into that in a little bit. Zapped itself debuted on June 27, 2014. And since we noted the first dcom appearance of a cell phone back in the day, we gotta now announce it's our first app, the Listen and Obey app. Yikes. The movie was filmed in the DCOM capital of the North Kannada and is based on a book called Boys are Dogs. Isn't that wonderful? Which might just be the most on the nose, awful title in the history of titles. It was written by YA author and obvious man hater Leslie Margolis, and it's part of a series called Annabelle Unleashed, which makes sense because the original title of this movie was Unleashed. Each book in the series apparently has to do with animals, so check out some of the titles. Boys or dogs? Girls acting catty. Everybody bugs out. One tough chick and monkey business. Did you have any book series you read as a kid?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think I remember. You know the Boxcart series? Book series? Is it the.

[Will Friedle]

I don't know those.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I don't know.

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[Sabrina Bryan]

I remember a lot.

[Will Friedle]

R.L.

[Ramos]

Stine.

[Will Friedle]

Great.

[Sabrina Bryan]

R.L. stine.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, yeah, I read.

[Sabrina Bryan]

What about you?

[Will Friedle]

Just fantasy.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Just fantasy.

[Will Friedle]

Boxcar children. The Boxcar Children.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay, there we go.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, No, I read fantasy stories after fantasy, so. Like the Belgariad, the Malorian series. My favorite. Then the choose your own adventure books.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And who do you have? Somebody that got you in them like that steered you in that direction?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, my third grade teacher with. She had us read the Indian in the Cupboard by Lyn Reed Banks, which is one of the greatest books ever. And that got me kind of in the fantasy world after that.

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Then it was just all, you know.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Because you're talking what age that you jumped into this fantasy world? Eight.

[Will Friedle]

Eight or nine?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Eight.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Yeah, the third grade. So, yeah, eight or nine is when I started real, but. But I started with the choose your own adventure books. Then you go to the Piers Anthony books, which as a kid you think are great, the Xanth books, and you read as an adult, and they're just, like, horrifyingly awful. And then I found the Belgard series when I was probably about 12, and that just changed my whole life. That was just when I started reading about Belgarath and. And Gary, and it was like, oh, my God, the world just opened up to me. It was the coolest thing in the world.

[Sabrina Bryan]

There was a book that's mentioned in this movie that caught me off guard a little bit, just because I know in this movie that we just watched To Kill a Mockingbird.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, yeah. Which, of course, every young girl's favorite book. To Kill a Mockingbird Zapped was also. Oh, we'll get there. Zapped was also a broadcast success, bringing in 5.7 million viewers for its debut, making it the most watched watched broadcast on cable that night. Okay. Did you watch it? Did you know about this? 2014. You missed all this, too.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I was. Not at all.

[Will Friedle]

I knew nothing of this, obviously, either, and I'm glad I didn't. Zapt is available right now to watch on Disney, which can either guide you through our recap or our recap can guide you through your viewing. Either way, a guide will be hired, so please do a background check and keep it professional. Well, get the JV squad ready to perform. Here's our synopsis. High schooler Zoe discovers a magical app that lets her control boys like dogs. At first, it makes her life easier, but soon chaos erupts when she learns that controlling people isn't the same as connecting with them. Early thoughts? Sabrina, what did you think of this movie?

[Sabrina Bryan]

This movie was rough for me. It was. It felt like 100,000 minutes long. And at the beginning, I just kept, like, the. I know we get really, like, extreme rooms and things like that, but the. The bedroom for her, the bathroom. Like, there was just so many things that I was like, this Is really, like, over the top. Too big. Disney does big, but, like, there's. They're all. They usually hone it into just that perfect level. And just even from the. The. The house in general, even that. I just. I don't know. I. Things were throwing me off from the very beginning of this movie. And sometimes, you know, we both talk about it. We gotta, like, maybe we're in a weird headspace and we're not like, going, okay, no, this is a Disney movie. We're gonna kind of like. And then once we get in the zone, it gets better. That never happened for me. And I was very frustrated because, again, I love Zendaya and everything that she's in, I feel like, is gold. And I was, like, looking for the gold. I was right.

[Will Friedle]

Please look me, I'm on a gold hunt.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm on a gold hunt and I can't find it. Zendaya, I'm sorry. I had, like, anxiety from it. It's just, you know.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It was not my. Not my jam. This movie was not my jam. It was yours, though, wasn't it? This is your favorite one so far.

[Will Friedle]

Loved this. I hated this movie. This is, I think possibly, and I don't mean possibly. No, I'm going to say it. This is the worst movie we've watched so far, in my opinion. Totally my opinion. I could think of nothing I hated more than I hated this movie. And I agree with you 100%. She is a star. None of the acting was bad. It wasn't like the acting was bad or anything like that. It was just so. She was fine. I get She's a star. The story, the script. There was nothing about this movie that I liked. It was a really bad movie, in my opinion.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I found a pink blazer that I really loved that she wore.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, there you go. Well, then there's something for you.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And I did like the dancing. Like I said, I thought that pointless.

[Will Friedle]

Dancing, that meant nothing to anything.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Her troupe and what she did, you know, I was excited for this, like, battle. I love a dance battle.

[Will Friedle]

Are you kidding me? I'm a dance battle king. What the hell is this?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I know. And it just kind of fell flat because it really just didn't matter at that point. It didn't. Nothing mattered. I didn't understand it. But I am excited eventually, it's towards the end to talk about one of the most awkward scenes I. We have seen yet on the channel.

[Will Friedle]

I can't wait. I can't wait.

[Ramos]

Chef's kiss.

[Will Friedle]

I can't wait. Well, as mentioned earlier, the movie stars Zendaya, who began her career on the channel as Rocky on a show called Shake it up, then as the star of Casey Undercover. She also appeared on episodes of Good Luck Charlie and Ant Farm and was put on the musical fast track as well, releasing pop music through Disney Records. And this was actually her second tcom. She first starred in Frenemies alongside Bella Thorne, a film we've already recapped, so go check out our archives for that. That Zendaya would eventually grow up and become one of the most sought after talents in Hollywood, and rightfully so. She is in the Spider man movies, the Greatest Showman, the Dune franchises Challengers, and the HBO show Euphoria, which makes me jump to my knees and thank God I didn't have children, which won her the Golden Globe and the Emmy. I watched one episode of that and I was like, if kids are like this, oh my God, I don't want to have anything to do with anybody. Yeah. Oh, God. Drugs and ah. Anyway, she's also set to voice a new character in the upcoming Shrek movie and to star in the movie I cannot wait for. Cannot wait for. Cannot wait for. Based on my favorite favorite book of all time, Christopher Nolan's next movie, the Odyssey. Oh, just the little things I'm hearing about it. I'm salivating already. And we've got Spencer Boldman as cool guy Jackson Cale. He was a Disney star as well. He played Adam Davenport in the show Lab Rats and guest starred on icarly, Jesse and Mighty Med. In 2022. He was in four episodes of welcome to Chippendales, but not a ton of acting as of late. Then you've got Chanel Harquayle ivcic, I hope I'm saying that right. Plays Rachel. We've seen her before in one of our old favorite dcoms, Radio Rebel. And more recently she appeared on the TV shows Sacred Lies, Supernatural, Happy Faced, and A Million little things. Amelia McCarthy plays Taylor and she's another magical rewind fave from her time in the zombies movies. God, these just made me long for a zombies movie. You may recognize her as Lacey, one of the human cheerleaders alongside Addison. And most importantly, this movie runs. Sorry, I'm taking a pause to let my anger subside. 102 minutes. An absolutely disgusting number 12 over the bullseye of 90. And just the wrong foot to start on. If you asky, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Actually, several days are ruined because I couldn't get through this movie. In one sitting. And kept stopping and starting and stopping.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And starting and then having to rewind because you're like, wait, what? I think I've. I think I missed it. I went too far because I'm lost.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. And we don't like to blame anybody for that on this show, but if you're looking to blame somebody, it's director and actor Peter DeLuise. He's best known as Officer Doug Penhall. Awesome. Alongside Johnny Depp in the 80s show 21 Jump street, one of my favorite shows of all time. And he was great on that show. He also starred in SeaQuest 2032 and Stargate SG1. But he's also a very established director with quite a career. DeLuise started with some episodes of 21 Jump street and then continued to shows like Kyle XY, Andromeda VIP and Silk Stockings. But now he is heavy in the Hallmark game Lucky directing movies like Love under the Olive Tree, Hanukkah on Rye, and A Brush with Love. On the writing side of things, author and again man hater Leslie Margulies got her credit for writing the book the script is based on. Then we have the Eddie brothers, Billy and Matt. We've mentioned them before as the writers of Teen Beach 2, and this was their first movie. They'd go on to write a few other dcoms, Bad Hair Day and Invisible Sister, which ironically, we haven't seen. The transition of their career. Then took them to the Monster High movies and they also wrote on a Disney Junior show, Eureka. By the way, I didn't get a laugh for that. And I think the irony of us having not seen Invisible Sister was pretty great there, Sabrina. But whatever. I'll try harder.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I was trying to. I got caught. I'm sorry. I got caught on Bad Hair Day because I think we saw. We did do Bad Hair Day at this point.

[Will Friedle]

Bad Hair Day is the one with the. The one whole day. Yeah, we did that one.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Which had the wig and.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. Okay. Yes. I want to make sure that's what. That's what I got. I got the cop. Yeah, I got.

[Will Friedle]

We interviewed the woman who played the police officer.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, yeah, right. I know I missed your good one joke. I'm so sorry.

[Will Friedle]

My good. Oh, that was such a backwards. Like.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I didn't mean it that way.

[Will Friedle]

That suit looks great on somebody built like you is like what you'd say.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, my God, she's a sweet spirit. I'm so sorry. Keep going.

[Will Friedle]

Very nice.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm sorry, Will. I did not mean it that way. I got stuck on the bad hair day and missed your joke.

[Will Friedle]

I'm sorry, I'm going to have. You know, it's. You know you're funny when you have to point out every one of your jokes.

[Rosalind Sanchez]

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[Ramos]

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[Ramos]

Hey, it's Dramos from the Life is Gringo podcast. And on this important episode, I'm unpacking how my cheese smoke culture and the need for validation can lead to a toxic relationship with sex and why real masculinity means protecting your partners and prioritizing your sexual health. We talk about the word validation, but really a lot of it is also like my lack of self worth during that time, right? You know, I needed somebody else to tell me I was worthy essentially, right? And whether it was my guy friends, whether it was a woman, you know, and you want attention and again, you're trying to get attention from the quote unquote right people. And the unfortunate part about this, like succumbing to sort of that peer pressure of society in general is you end up hurting a lot of people along the way. And then you also put yourself in a position to negatively affect your own health, both emotionally and physically. You can listen to this special episode of Life as a Gringo brought to you by Healthy Sexual from Gilea sciences on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Will Friedle]

And now everybody sit, beg, bark, shake, roll over. Good boy. It's time to break down. Zapped. Exactly. We open at a fancy wedding. An app alerts young Zoe Stevens that it's time for the toast. Also, what the hell app is that. Talk about specific. Also, there's an awful lot of Z's in this movie zapped with Zendaya as Zoe.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Zoe, yeah.

[Will Friedle]

She announces that she's not only the daughter of the bride, she's the maid of honor. She's thrilled about her mom's new husband, Ted, but emphasizes that her and her mom had been alone together for quite some time. And now she'll have a whole new family to live with. Not only just Ted, but his sons, Adam, Zach and Ben. They're all messy, smelly bros. And the idea of living with four guys because the dog, too, is Humphrey, is also a male, is weighing heavily on her mind. She must accept that her life is completely changing. But it's not going to be easy. As she raises her glass, the boys trigger a chain of events that sends Humphrey running onto the table and a fondue bowl full of chocolate. It douses Zoe head to toe. And now she looks like Carrie on prom night. Zoe takes a deep breath and angrily finishes the toast to her new family. And remind, you know, just keep in your head about her being covered with stuff, because it happens over and over and over. Yeah. We jump to a week later. Zoe's asleep in her room at 6:45. And yes, since it's the main character's bedroom, we're forced to learn a little about her in the form of posters highlighting dance and music. This was obviously your favorite bedroom we've ever seen. Am I right? Little divide for you.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It just didn't make sense to me. She's just moving into this house and she's got. It's just so decorated. To me, it was like. I don't know why that bothered me. That's why I had to be like, okay, check yourself. Where are you mentally? Why is this irritating you? Like, I don't know why, but honestly, I literally. I mean, we're two minutes in. I thought she was so cute. I thought I loved her toast. I thought she was. I was like, gosh, she's such a cute actress. She looks gorgeous.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I get to the room and bam. I'm irritated. I'm like, what's going on? Like, not okay.

[Will Friedle]

My guess is the irritation isn't going to stop. So then we are startled by a bullhorn. It's Ted now, screaming like a drill sergeant, telling the boys to get up for the bus. The kids fumble all over each other as Zoe walks out of her room, confused. Ted tries his hardest to adjust for the new female in the house. But it's just not Working now in her bathroom, Zoe is working with a beauty planner app because why? Not to get ready for school. And she's interrupted by her youngest stepbrother who tries to share a sink and fidgets with her makeup, covering the room in powder. She's also disgusted by the pee around the toilet bowl. The reality of her new testosterone filled family and their frat house style is just not working. With each man set very much in their ways, it's starting to sink in for her. Her life's going to be very different. The brothers even take to the kitchen to make disgusting protein pancakes, stealing her cottage cheese and acting all around like animals, like no human kids ever do in the history world. Three brothers that are making, hey, it's right before school. Let's cook. Pancake never happens. Zoe looks to her mom for help, but her mom can't do anything about it because she's barely there in this movie and an absolutely useless character. They just do things differently. Here. Her mom tries to calm the situation by presenting her with her childhood music box, a gift from her deceased dad, shaped like a castle. Also, tomorrow marks her first day of high school and dance tryouts. Back in the kitchen, the bros are still bro and out, leading to an eruption when the middle son starts the blender before putting the lid on, once again drenching Zoe head to toe. We are five minutes into this film and she's been covered with twice. It's now the next day at school and Zoe is taking everything in. A skater almost crashes into her. Jocks are lifting weights in the parking lot. Nerds are playing video games, and there's a group of smelly guys who are just smelly. None of this makes any sense. The skating. Okay. Totally understand that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

But did you often find guys with their shirts off in the parking lot or the quad just lifting weights on full benches?

[Sabrina Bryan]

No. And we've got to pause on that because I'm like, practices and standards and practices. That's like, big thing. I've talked about it a lot.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I had to wear leggings under every single skirt that I ever wore on the channel. Why can these guys be half naked?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Lots of man nipples. Lots of man.

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

Understand?

[Sabrina Bryan]

And they come twice. Like, they actually talk about it later on and you're just like, this is weird to me. It was uncomfortable. Am I weird to think that on the channel it's uncomfortable to have, like, teenage guys without shirts on and they're like, lifting weight? Like, that was just like, a weird thing to be on the channel in general? But every group that she's encountering are boys, too, which I thought that was strange. I mean, I get it. This is. We know what the is. But, like, that was weird that there were no girls at all in this. And then.

[Ramos]

Yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like, when we walk past the football team's locker room, right? Like there. That's where they are after practice and their doors are open. It stinks. Like, it's gross.

[Will Friedle]

Sure, I get that. It smells like a locker room, right?

[Sabrina Bryan]

And yeah, I'm sure there were smelly boys in school, but not like this. Like, this was just a group of.

[Will Friedle]

Kids who don't care about their hygiene. It was like, what school are you going to?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I don't know. But this is one another thing that I'm like, this was the second thing of so extra. These things were so over the top. That was weird for me because, again, yes, we're expecting that of the channel, but the channel usually has a really good radar of what's just too much.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. And this, Again, this is 2014. This is not big. Huge Disney Channel of 1998.

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, this is. We are. Are they veering back into.

[Will Friedle]

I don't know. Maybe they tried.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I remember feeling we said something similar about Zendaya's other dcom of it kind of going a little bit bigger than it needed to be.

[Will Friedle]

Well, they obviously are seeing her and she's good at it. They're seeing her as like a very physical comedian, but it was just. It was by. I was like, smelly groups. What? How's that? It's not even a thing. Okay, Nerds get it. Jocks get it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Smelly guys. Like, what the hell is that? Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

Anyway, she eventually stumbles on Trip, this guy, or the Tripster or Tripathon. He's a surfer type, actually, named Trip. And she asks him for help, but instead he just farts on her. Yes, this actually happened. I had to look around my room for hidden cameras in case I was on a prank show. He just turns around and farts on the beautiful new girl in school, right?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Not even turns around. Like, lifts his up and holy.

[Will Friedle]

Like, on the gorgeous brand new girl who's just. Because, first of all, there's nowhere in the world where any guy looks at Zendaya and is like, who's the ugly girl? Like, she's stunning and just walks into the school, and the first thing this guy does is fart on her. Like you do. So. Ugh. By this point, I was like, I'm not sure. I'm gonna be able to get through this movie. In the Malaise of Gas, Zoe meets Rachel, a cool boy crazy girl in a fedora who wants to be a friendly face and a helping hand. Rachel says all the boys in school are cute but gross knuckleheads. Rachel's main target is a boy named Charlie who looks a lot like Justin Long, so let's just call him Justin Short. Eventually, Rachel leads Zoe to a classroom where she's startled by a movie about praying mantises. Praying manti, Praying man, Praying mantis about a praying mantis that they're all watching. And I was thinking to myself, movies on the first day of school? Really? Okay. Her shriek makes her the center of attention, and lo and behold, she's in the wrong class. Algebra's on the other side of campus. Thanks so much, fedora Rachel, for leading me in the wrong direction. Also, we're introduced to Jackson Kahl. And yes, that's how I'm going to say his name every time. Who's instructed to show her where to go. He's a real rebel type in a stupid beanie and sunglasses and a leather jacket with the sleeves rolled up. Dude, are you hot or cold? Which one are you? Because you're wearing multiple layers and you have a leather jacket on and sunglasses in class, but you're rolling up the sleeves. Are you hot or cold? Figure it the out. This movie angered me.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Also, why is he, like 35 years old in high school? Right? He was so old, so much older looking than the rest of the cast.

[Will Friedle]

Than everybody else, and the character was so, like, whoever. Okay, so I don't know if the book is like this, but whoever wrote, like, just didn't understand boys or men at all. Where it's like, well, you're either a smelly idiot or you're the cool guy who also plays chess and wears leather. It's like, there's not a normal boy in this whole movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, there's no, like, guy.

[Will Friedle]

Just guy. How is there not just a guy?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oldest of her new brothers.

[Will Friedle]

Right? Not at the beginning. He's the mo. And we'll get into. Oh, this movie seriously angered me all the way around.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I know. There was so.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, I just.

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

I.

[Will Friedle]

It was.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm okay with pointing out things that got like the peeing in the toilet that drives me crazy, that boys don't pull up. But the thing if you ever go. You know, so many restaurants, bathrooms are, like, unisex now. And if you go to a bathroom and you see that it's just out, it's it's gross. It's outrages me. I can't handle it. Like, this is a. Everyone should be respectful on it. Like. Like girls are gross too. Anyway, I'm fine with that kind of stuff.

[Will Friedle]

Me too.

[Sabrina Bryan]

To point that out. But this is so extreme. Making it seem like every guy has is just disgusting. The worst. I'm like, whoa. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Except the one guy who's a caricature of what whoever wrote this thinks every. He's a bad boy, but also a chess champion.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. And it's like in the park and.

[Will Friedle]

Just read books by himself in his leather jacket with a beanie all the time. It was so ridiculous. But anyway, okay. So, yeah, anyway.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Gotta get through this.

[Will Friedle]

He looks like Justin Bobby from the hills and is actually a hunky genius. On their walk, Rachel stumbles through her words and he's openly flirting with her. He eventually wanders off and we notice a pretty and concerned blonde has been watching this interaction the entire time. And now at the dance squad audition, Zoe arrives a bit late and joins Rachel, who traded in her fedora for a flat brim sideways baseball cap. And guess what? That blonde girl who was suspiciously watching Zoe talk to Jackson Cale. Well, she's Taylor and she's the captain of the varsity team. Running the audition with an iron fist, she announces the varsity team is full, but there may be a spot if you're perfect. Zoe tries to introduce herself, but only gets attitude in return. And even worse, when Zoe looks in her gym bag, her shoes are covered in the boys pancake mix. Because of course, as Zoe ties on her pancake sneakers, Taylor quickly busts out a routine to memorize.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay, but why didn't she go to the bathroom and just like, get some towels and clean them off before she puts them?

[Will Friedle]

Can I also ask a question? As you're a resident dance expert? Couldn't she have danced barefoot?

[Sabrina Bryan]

She could have. I don't feel like she would have wanted to. I understand.

[Will Friedle]

Better choice than pancake shoes.

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No, the.

[Sabrina Bryan]

The choice have been to go to the bathroom, grab some towels, wipe off your shoes and then put them on. Like that would have been the choice. Or she had tennis shoes on already. They weren't like dance in your shoes. They weren't like hip hop tennies.

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

Right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

They weren't. They weren't kicks, as the kids say. As the kids say.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, kicks to me will always be a serial.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But she could have worn those. It was very like, you know. Yeah, I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it was weird.

[Rosalind Sanchez]

Again.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It was just. I thought these were just odd choices that were made just throughout the whole thing.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. You know what it seemed like to me? And I'm just realizing this. It seemed. I know it was a YA book, but it seemed like this was a book written for kids that were eight or nine that then they decided to just put them in high school without changing any of the stuff that happens in the book.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

That's like, if this were. If it was the exact same movie, but they were all in the fifth grade.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right.

[Will Friedle]

Smelly boys and missing the toilet, then all of this would make sense to me.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Or even.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. Even if they were the age of. We just watched a few of the new episodes of Wizards of Waverly Place.

[Will Friedle]

The Wizards beyond Waverly Place. Like that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That their young character in that. She's probably in fifth or sixth grade.

[Will Friedle]

That could have worked.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Make them nine or ten. Then it seemed like that's what this book was. And they went, no, we're not gonna try change a thing about the book, but we're gonna make everybody 15. It's like. Well, that then changes everything.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Zendaya in it. So they're like, we need something for Zendaya. We're gonna add some. We're gonna add some. Some dance elements.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It was very strange, Some opportunities for her to have music. Because I do believe. I don't know for sure, but it did seem like she was on the sound, her soundtrack, like the main chart.

[Will Friedle]

She must have been. Yeah, she must have been. Yeah, yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Which were catchy.

[Will Friedle]

Yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

There we go. There's a puzzle. They were catchy.

[Will Friedle]

Taylor quickly busts out a routine to memorize. No candidates can remember the moves except for Zoe, who not only nails it, but she adds some flavor to it. Everyone is impressed except Taylor, who now hates Zoe for two reasons. Being a good dancer and talking to her ex. The dance felt a little goofy to me, but what did you think?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Dance expert of the.

[Will Friedle]

This first one.

[Sabrina Bryan]

The first dance. Yeah. I was kind of like, oh, oh, oh, don't do it to. Don't do it to my girl Z.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, don't do it to Z.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Don't do it to say.

[Ramos]

Right.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. That part was kind of weird. But the. This was the thing. When I saw what they were gonna do, I went, oh, then Zendaya did it. And no, the choreography was not, like, great, but she can. Good on her. She made it look cool.

[Will Friedle]

And even I can tell she can.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That's where you tell the. The level of just, like, skill she has that she can make something like that. It's like watching Alison Stoner do some of the choreography that was that we saw in Camp Rock. And they looked amazing doing it.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Because they're great. Zoe does eventually slip on pancake mix and fall onto Rachel and then causes everyone to get rejected. Zoe begs for any way to make the team, and as a result, she's added to the JV team, along with Rachel filling out a squad made up of just nerdy boys. Because again, boys suck. Back at the house, Zoe's even more disturbed by the boys. They're bathing Humphrey in the tub and they ransacked her room, even breaking her dad's castle box. She can't believe how awful her life is. She wonders if there's anything on her phone that can help. And that's when she finds Listen and Obey, an app that costs 9.99 and allegedly makes it so you can command your dog to do anything. If you really think about it, this won't help her issues with the boys at all, but she installs it anyway. She immediately uses the app to get Humphrey to sit and then shake. And it works. She's impressed. But right then, the dog reaches up and snatches the phone out of her hands, drops it into a water filled bathtub. When the youngest stepbrother tries to dry it through centrifugal force. Centrifugal. Centrif. Spinning it around a lot over his head. It's centrifugal, but it's just a hard word to say. He accidentally flings it out the window and onto a satellite dish. Then down the solar panels, landing in a bowl of wet dog food, causing it to short and spark uncontrollably. After retrieving it, she just lays in bed, depressed. Her mom suggests something she found online. Putting the phone in a bowl of rice. Have you ever done this?

[Ramos]

Yes, I have two.

[Will Friedle]

But man, it just totally ruins the rice. I love rice. Zoe doesn't even really care about the phone anymore. She just can't take living with these boys. They're ruining her life. Her mom suggests joining her family on a run to the park later, but she decides to stay in bed. And the phone is still ominously sparking in the rice. The next day, she's awoken again by the blowhorn. She grabs her phone out of the rice and hey, it works. Everything's still there, too. Maybe today will be a better day after all. But of course, it's not. Cause boys. The boys are just as gross as ever, hogging the bathroom and causing chaos. But she does have one Thing under control. Humphrey, the dog. She uses a new app to make Humphrey sit, But now he doesn't do anything. And at the same time, a mailman makes his way to the front door. As she tries again to say sit. No response from the dog, but the mailman involuntarily falls to his butt. Then she says, lie down. And, yep, the mailman lies down. Shake. He shakes also. Shake is not that dog command. When you ask a dog to shake, you're not asking to shake. You're asking to give you their paw. So none of this made any sense. This will happen a lot in the movie. Have you ever told the dog to shake, and what you meant was this?

[Sabrina Bryan]

No.

[Will Friedle]

No.

[Sabrina Bryan]

My dog Rocky used to do. I would do high five, and he would pop. Like, pop my hand.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. We say nuts. We say, sammy gives nux. We go nuts. And she raises up and she goes like. I mean, she so cute.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

So. Yeah, but that's what shakes are. When you ask a dog to shake, it means give me your paw, not shake. Our old dog, when he went swimming, he knew shake it out, which after he'd get out of the pool, we go, all right, shake it out. And then he'd shake it out. But shake means give your paw. So this was another weird kind of like, why shake?

[Ramos]

Anyway?

[Will Friedle]

Now she doesn't see anything that the mailman is doing because her back is turned to the front door. She doesn't even see when she says, do a trick, which is, again, not a thing. And the postal carrier does a front door flip. Then one of the brothers appears with a gross, sloppy, nacho borscht twitch. And she tells him to put it down, which he does obediently. Then she tells him to pick it up, and he does it in a zombie like fashion. Okay, she's now not actively using the app, so does the phone just need to be near her? I am now officially confused again. For now, the 19th reason. What's going on?

[Sabrina Bryan]

That is exactly what I was gonna point out is she's just giving these commands at this point. I mean, I don't know. I. I don't understand. Yeah, the rules.

[Will Friedle]

What do we talk about with the rules? What are the rules?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I don't know, because sometimes she's got her phone, and she's, like, speaking into.

[Will Friedle]

It and hitting a button, like, and.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Hitting a button to, like, make it happen. And then. But at this point right now in the movie, she's just saying things, and the phone is just, like, magically making it happen. I don't Know, if there was, there's already. There's like, a blurred lines of these rules. They're not making sense at all.

[Will Friedle]

We need the rules, people. We need the rules.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We need rules.

[Will Friedle]

Otherwise, I'm a rule follower.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Makes sense.

[Will Friedle]

Yes. Thank you. And now at school, she tells Rachel, who's back in a fedora, that the boys in her life are acting weird. And then, on cue, Trip runs up and farts on her again. When has this happened in the history of the world anyway? I don't even want to say the word again. The girls are rightfully disgusted, as would any normal human be. But no one would ever do this. We see that the app is on in her pocket, and she tells him to stop, and he stops. So she just accidentally kept the app on the entire time. Okay, Zendaya. Yeah, okay. Either way, Trip turns zombie and completely freezes, mouth agape. She puts two and two together and realizes she has a magic. She says, speak, and Trip responds, you've been whipped by the Trip. She quickly instructs him to shut his mouth, and he does. They go back and forth with commands until she almost instructs him to take a poop in the hallway. This movie is so weird.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Weird. It is like, I don't even know it's so.

[Will Friedle]

And by this point, I'm openly yelling at my screen by myself. My wife can hear me from across the house going, what's wrong? And I'm like, this movie's the worst.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Thing I've ever seen. I mean, but also, this is the thing. No one else seems to notice that this stuff is happening, which also is strange to me because it's not, like, small things. It's like, big things. We get later on to, like, she.

[Will Friedle]

Freezes the whole school with all the guys.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. Like the yoga and the this. And, like, it's not weird to anyone.

[Will Friedle]

Nope. Nope.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Including the adults. The very small amount of adults that we have in the movie.

[Will Friedle]

No. Who are also awful, too, by the way. The way. Rachel can't believe this. What is up with Zoe's phone? It's the most amazing thing in human history, but when she tries it on the mean girl dancers, it doesn't work. So the app only works with men because girls are too catty. That's what she was talking about. Boys are dogs and girls are catty. Also, you have an app now in your phone that can control all boys. It seems like nobody really gives this the do that. It's. You've just found huge magical powers, and everyone's like, wow, you Got an app on your phone that controls boys. Wow. It's like, what? I felt like I was taking crazy pills halfway through this.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. Also, like, what would you honestly want to use that for?

[Will Friedle]

I don't know.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like, what would you. What would be the purpose of doing this? Like, in her world?

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Well, that's just. We're gonna find out, I guess.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And so Zoe and Rachel, I wonder when you do. I will. Exactly. I'll hit a little bell. Bing. Maybe we found it. I say that because I have no bells around me, because I wouldn't have to hit it anyway. And so Zoe and Rachel make their way to the quad to try it out some more. They tell skaters to stop causing one dude to crash. The gamers are told to do something good for their well being, so they drop their mobile devices to start yoga. The gross, unhygienic guys are told to fix themselves, and the jocks are told to put their shirts back on. Then quickly told to take them off again because they're buff hotties.

[Sabrina Bryan]

What?

[Will Friedle]

Can you imagine if this was boys telling girls to take something off?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right. And the way that they, you know, this is how it was written for them in the script, but the way they play it, it's like strip clubish.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. Yes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like, they're like, ooh, take that off. What? I'm sorry, I don't know what. What. What network I'm watching this movie on now.

[Will Friedle]

It's very weird. And that's when they see Charlie Wang, the Justin short kid that Rachel likes, but he's too emotionally closed off. And so Zoe instructs him to be more open about his feelings, causing him to jump up and talk to the fedora queen. And now even the Tripmeister is told to be nice to Zoe, even saying toodles as he leaves. She now controls the male population of the school, and she is loving it. Back at home, her oldest stepbrother, who is arguably the most ADHD character we've ever seen in a dcom. She tells him to be focused, and he reacts by focusing on a nearby lampshade to admire it. Like she just dosed him with acid. Then her middle brother appears with a jelly pickle taco caramel sundae, so he's told to go make better things. She forces her dad to bring down the volume of his voice and commands her little brother to be clean. Two things that'll definitely make her life easier. Happy with herself, she decides to walk Humphrey to the park. And on the way, she talks to him about her newfound power, admitting it Might not be ethical, but it's working. And then she runs into Jackson Cale and the flirting resumes. He's reading To Kill a Mockingbird in the park because he's a bad boy with a heart and a brain. It turns out to be Zoe's favorite book because what 15 year old girl's favorite book isn't To Kill a Mockingbird? The budding courtship continues. Back at home, Zoe's mom walks in to see the boys cleaning, making locally sourced hors d', oeuvres, and Ted talking in a reasonable tone. Also, the oldest is still staring at a lampshade. And you figure by day two of this, maybe they'd call somebody. The next morning, their dad can't yell his normal good morning routine, so he whispers. Now unable to startle anybody, Zoe finally gets the morning calm she's been looking for at school. The boys are still under her spell, and Charlie is all over Rachel. Even the gross boys are waxing their eyebrows and wearing vests. Any problem caused by boys have been solved thanks to the app. Taylor and the varsity dance squad are practicing hard in the gym while the pitiful JV team is starting their first practice. Zoe is nominated as captain, and she quickly realizes the team is doomed. But she has an idea. She pulls out her phone and uses the app, instructing the guys to follow her lead. And just like that, she has a killer squad of almost professional dancers. When Taylor sees the new results, she's confused. How did they suddenly become not terrible? And why is Zoe talking into her phone? Which, by the way, was something she didn't need to do earlier? So now she's talking into her phone.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Now she is. Now we're. Now we've switched the game, change the.

[Will Friedle]

Rules, and a new rivalry has been born. And we get a dubstep dance. Had to look that up. Where JV proves they're just as good as varsity. I shouldn't have to look these things up because I don't know if you're aware of this, but I'm kind of a dance expert now.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I am very well aware of it. And I feel like dubstep. You should already know, though. From Deadpool? No, from Step Up. Step up movies.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. It's like a style of it.

[Will Friedle]

I know. Which I still didn't know what it was. By the way. If you ever need any instruction in dance or need to know anything about dance, hit me up.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm so glad that I'd be happy.

[Will Friedle]

To walk you through.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm already such a great relationship with you that Now I'm just gonna be calling you. I have to finish my new routine, so I'm definitely gonna be calling you for that.

[Will Friedle]

Three words. Shuffleball, Change, Shuffle. I don't even know if something. Actually, it's four words, isn't it? I don't think shuffle ball is one word anyway. Zoe brings Taylor to the principal to make the argument that JV should now be the school's official dance squad at state championships. She proposes a dance off to see who's really the best. And they'll do it at the first basketball game of the year. Again, none of this makes any sense. This infuriates Taylor, especially right after the meeting with Jackson Kale where he asks Zoe to hang out. Meanwhile, the school basketball team is struggling because of all the changes Zoe has made to the male athletes. And her stepdad Ted, who's the coach now, can't yell out his instructions anymore. Her magical powers are backfiring. She even references the issues Michael J. Fox runs into during Back to the Future and other movies where changing the past can destroy it. And the girls, of course, come up with the idea that no, the reason that that doesn't work all the time is because they're boys again. Boys suck ass. So she's visibly nervous though, that maybe she is changing the past or the future or whatever. And yet it's time for Zoe to hang out with Jackson at the nearby 50s diner where his chess club meets. Because of course he's also in the chess club. She accidentally calls it a date mid conversation and melts down, running off to the bathroom to call Rachel. By the way, okay, I will say this. He looks like he's 40 years old. Exactly like you said. The character is ridiculous. Her character is okay, but kind of. But the two of them together, just talking on kind of a date. Make this the movie. Make a rom com with the two of them where she dates a 35 year old man she meets in high school. Whatever you want to do. But the scenes of just the two of them together, even though he just plays the quiet guy, it's like this was okay, just them sitting and talking.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. Every time they were on camera together, it was like, okay, I'm good, I'm good with this. I like it.

[Will Friedle]

It's her chemistry, her bumbling kind of quality of not knowing how to date is very intriguing and cute. And it's like, do this. And he's kind of him being the cool guy, but you also find out there's more underneath him. Again, the character, the way they wrote it was ridiculous. But a week of his character would have been great and put them together would have been awesome.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Awesome.

[Will Friedle]

Awesome.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But again, this relationship as we see, kind of goes nowhere, means kind of nothing.

[Will Friedle]

Nothing. Like and ends with nothing. It's so weird.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And ends with nothing. Yes. It's like. But you're right. If that had been the core of this movie, I would have loved it because I did like them on camera together. Like they had a great chemistry. She's, you know, this stunning girl who was like a blubbery like fool around him.

[Will Friedle]

So cute.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So.

[Will Friedle]

And if it was something, if it again, not trying to rewrite the film. But I'm gonna rewrite the film. You know, if it was something like. Do you remember? I know exactly. Do you remember? Oh, what was the one where. Where Jim a liar. Liar.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. So the power that comes happens to him. He can't. He has to tell the truth all the time. It makes for better comedy. It makes for self deprecating stuff. It makes for a journey where you have to learn something. So if the app or something did something to her, it makes it a different movie as opposed to she can control all the awful boys that are around her.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

It's like, so if she's now on this date and she can't control something because of the app where she's like, it's because you're really cute. Something.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes, something.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it's like then.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Or she starts talking about herself in the third person. Like trip like things like that.

[Will Friedle]

Yes, that would have been, would have been hilarious, funny.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And she would have killed that. She would have killed it so well with all of that.

[Will Friedle]

And he likes her despite all these things. Like that would have been great because the. The two of them sitting across a table from each other, that was fine. I could watch that for 90 minutes. But I can't watch anything for 102.

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[Ramos]

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[Ramos]

Hey, it's Dramos from the Life Is a Gringo podcast and on this special episode I'm getting real about Sex, especially how growing up in a Latino household impacts the conversations we have about it. I think it's safe to say that most people's parents probably weren't too comfortable with the topic of sex and speaking about sex with their kid. You know, there are obviously a lot of stigmas around the topic of sex when it comes to our parents. And I think back to my own personal experiences. You know, we never really had the birds and the bees talk. You know, it was more of like, you know, sex is something you save for someone you really care about, and. And that was sort of the extent of it.

[Will Friedle]

Right?

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[Will Friedle]

So, yeah, she calls it a date. Mid conversation, melts down, runs off to the bathroom to call Rachel. They decide she can fix the situation by introducing some competition, an element boys love. So she instructs two nearby chess players, including one in a turtleneck, to flirt with her, and she returns to Jackson. They try to riz her up, but Jackson didn't take the bait. However, he does walk her home, and they almost share a kiss, which, again, this moment of the two of them looking at each other and kind of fumbling being teenagers, very cute. Inside the house, Zoe then finds her oldest stepbrother on the basketball court, now just staring at the rim. His focus thing is way out of control. She decides to ask him for advice about her date, and he explains that boys are just as worried and stressed as girls are. They have pressure in their life, too, which is why he was always running around unfocused. It helps her understand not only the possible love interest, but her new family, too. And I was like, okay, two scenes in a row that aren't awful. I liked her with her brother, too, and him explaining about being the new sister, and it's just been as tough at him. I was like, maybe this is a turning point in the movie. Like, maybe I'm gonna be like, okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

There'S an opening in the clouds of the sunshine. Follow it, Will. Follow the light.

[Will Friedle]

And exactly as I tried to get there, Trip farted on me again. Meanwhile, quiet Coach Ted fixes her castle. Hand me down. With some help from the boys. He presents it to her, and she's clearly touched. Maybe she's misjudged these guys, or maybe they're only bearable because she forced them to be. And I was thinking the same thing, and she's like, this Might not be the worst thing. And I was like, they're still under your spell. Of course they're great. She decides she will minimize the effects of the app tomorrow and see what happens. Even though it's the day of the big basketball game. Dance off. Which means nothing. She wakes up late for school the next morning, and now the app is turned down. The boys and students aren't returning their old ways. They're even acting stranger. Everything is unraveling quickly. Even the guys on the JV dance squad decide to quit. She doesn't accept their resignations, instead uses the app to get them back in line. But it's just not as effective as it used to be. The guys hearts just aren't into it. But Zoe isn't ready to accept defeat. So she uses the app again, this time to confuse the varsity male cheerleaders or dance squad people, whatever they're called. Dancers. It appears Zoe has let the power go to her head. And even Rachel's a little disturbed. And so is Jackson Cale, who caught the tail end of a little tirade she went on, calling the varsity squad and Taylor a pack of dogs. Now, since he's the good guy, the one in the world, apparently he's disturbed that she's treating people the same way Taylor does. She tries to shift the blame, calling Jackson hot and cold, but he says he just doesn't know how he feels. And she decides she's gonna respond by forcing him to kiss her. And now we're getting into some legal territory here, everybody. Thankfully, he kisses her cheek on the she aimed, which was cute, but it was still like, what the hell? He apologizes and said everything's off. Maybe they just both need some space. Ooh, Break up before they even started. Really? Back in the gym, Rachel suggests they end practice for the day. And Zoe turns off her phone until further notice. Soon after, in the bathroom, Zoe runs into Taylor again, who seems thrilled about the recent chain of events. Rachel stops by Zoe's house before. This is, by the way, she. Not. Okay, so at this point, Rachel. No, I'm sorry, not Rachel. Taylor notices that Zoe is speaking into her phone. So her first idea is, well, obviously she has a magical phone with an app that is controlling all the guys. Because that's, of course, the first thing you think, right?

[Sabrina Bryan]

How did she come to that conclusion? Just, I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

Like it's a thing. Like it's a thing. Well, she obviously has a magic phone, right?

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

Like that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like those apps actually exist.

[Will Friedle]

It just. It was like, what this is again. I think this is where I yelled, am I taking crazy pills? Because I was like, what the hell's happening?

[Sabrina Bryan]

No, Again, it. I don't know.

[Will Friedle]

I don't either.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Now I can't. Now I can't unthink what you were saying before. Like, this movie or the books or whatever were tailored for a younger.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah. It's the only thing. Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So that makes a lot more sense. Like, you know what I mean? A lot more magical and all that kind of stuff. Like. Like, that would have been a thought. I don't feel like a thought would have come to a high schooler, like, oh, she must have an app that's, like, controlling people. Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That would be something that, like, a little kid might think.

[Will Friedle]

Right. So this exact same movie set in elementary or middle school. A young. Middle school with a young cast. Great. Then I'm buying it. It's all some smelly boys who are 9 or 10. Sure.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Or even just like, that imagination of being able to.

[Will Friedle]

Like an app like that. Yes. So, yeah, of course that's the first thing she thinks. But Rachel stops by Zoe's house before the big basketball game, and Zoe apologizes. She can't believe how she let this app take over her life. She needs to find a way to fix things. But the app isn't working. It's only made things worse. And that's when she notices a paper on the refrigerator. It's a notice from a college. A scout is coming to see Adam play tonight, and since he's still focused on random things, this is not going to end well. She now knows she's seriously messing with his entire future. So the girls run off to the game to figure it out. At the game, the gym announcer reveals that practices have been bad, and there's a college scout in the stands. Two things no one would ever announce as an announcer at a basketball game. Who would do that? Ever. Wow. It's been bad practice all week, and there's a scout in the stand. Never ever. It's like whoever wrote this movie had never met an actual male in their life. And so they secondhand got from another woman. Got the. Like, another woman met a man once and told her friend about it who's never met a man, and that friend went off and wrote a movie about men. That's what it seemed like to me. There's just 90% of the stuff happening. I was like, none of this would ever happen. Ever.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

And this is not being Disney Channel.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm okay for the Disney Channel stretch. Like, you know what I mean, I am okay with that. This was just to the point where it's just, like, absurd. Like, it just, like, was, like, weird. It was just weird stuff.

[Will Friedle]

The Disney Channel stretch for me is the Italian or the Spanish guy who plays guitars, plays guitar for the Cheetah Girls. And Doe looks up and falls in love. And he comes down while singing a.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Song that I did not fall in love with Raven's character.

[Will Friedle]

I know. That's what I mean, Ray. But you know what I mean, though. It's like they're like boys, but they're heightened versions of boys.

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Doe falls in love with the dancer and he's a heightened version of himself. He's a dancer, but a banker. But no, it turns out. Okay. Those make sense. They're, like, still human.

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

None of this made any sense to me. It was just like, what is going on? And I know I seem to be bashing this movie and it's because this movie sucks. That's why I'm bashing it. Yes, you heard me. Come at me. Come at me all day. I will defend my hatred of this movie from the beginning.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I gotta know. Lisa probably knows the answer of this. What is like Team Zendaya called? What are they called? You know, like, you know, lady Goddess. Like they're like monsters or whatever. Yeah, I gotta know what the. The who is gonna come out after us because it's definitely gonna happen.

[Will Friedle]

Maybe it'll be Zen. No, I even think. I think Zendaya herself, if she ever got my number and hit me up the first, she'd pick up the phone, she'd be like, you're right, that movie was terrible. Because she's self aware enough as a performer to know this was not a good movie.

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[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. So she got the raw. She got the wrong end of the stick on this one.

[Will Friedle]

Way Way. Got the fuzzy end of the lollipop. Because she is phenomenal. And this movie was not.

[Sabrina Bryan]

They used to be called Z. Swaggers.

[Will Friedle]

Swaggers. Zwagger. Like swag. Like you got swag.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah. Okay. Swaggers.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, well, the Swaggers can come for me, but I'm going to stop on them before they get there. Yikes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

They're gonna.

[Will Friedle]

The coach and the team are still not in playing shape. So Zoe pulls her stepdad and mom off to the side and confess is she tells them everything, admitting she wasn't ready for her new life. But now she wants to fix things. She just needs help. The youngest stepbrother suggests they do what they do with their Dog when they need him to stop doing something, yell release. But now into the app. Zoe, of course loves the idea because of course her family, except her mom, completely accept the fact that they've been under a spell from a magical phone. She now unfortunately though, can't find her phone. It's gone. And the game is starting. Soon as the team takes the court, Zoe and Rachel figure out that Taylor took the phone when she saw her in the bathroom. We cut to Taylor and her underling examining the phone. They've immediately figured out the app and its powers because of course they would. Okay, we already talked about why they wouldn't put this together, but okay. So now with the Listen and Obey app open, she tells some nearby jocks to shake again. That would mean shake her hand cause it's not a real dog command, but they shake. But it obviously worked, causing the next thing we see is Taylor being carried in by some guys in the basketball game on a Throne and then telling the visiting team to robot dance and her team to kick their legs like Rockettes. And in the weirdest turn of events yet for a movie already filled with really weird events, the entire gymnasium just laughs. Assuming it's musical theater inspired flash mob Drunk with power. Now Taylor tells every man to bow down to her just as Zoe and Rachel arrive. Rachel knows this could be the end of the world as they know it, so she tells Taylor that the app won't solve anything. Forcing boys to do what you want doesn't make life any easier. Easier? You have to let guys act like themselves and accept them anyway. Which is. Well, what I assume is what my wife did. And quite a message for young girls is this, is this. Oh my God. Did this rub any. Did you rub you the wrong way?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes, it does. It was, you know, you're. You're trying to. I'm so big, you know, I grew up on the channel. I love it. I love the messaging that the movies and the, the shows always had. This message is terrible. Terrible. It's a good message to throw out into the universe for young kids to grab onto. It's weird. It's so strange. This does not in any way to me reflect what you would normally see on the channel. It's just.

[Will Friedle]

I agree.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Top to bottom.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Right, left, left or right diagonals, all of it. It's just weird.

[Will Friedle]

It is. Taylor doesn't care about her concerns and even infers that Zoe used the app to make Jason Kale Jackson Kale like her. And perfectly timed. He enters the gym just to hear the accusation of course, still wearing the leather jacket and the beanie, which that's got a smell at this point. But Zoe swears to Jackson she'd never used the apponym, but then admits she did once, just for that awful kiss on the cheek. To add insult to injury, Taylor forces Coach Ted to scoot around and bark like a dog, which he does. And right before she can command the rest of her family to do degrading things, Zoe suggests a way to directly punish her. Taylor can make Zoe do whatever she wants her to do. No need for an app. She'll just follow her commands. And Zoe is told to beg, pant, sit, shake, and roll over like a dog, which she does happily. At this point, I'm like, why did somebody not just go up? And it's like, she's holding your phone, which is clearly.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Grab her phone.

[Will Friedle]

Grab your phone back. Have your mom go up and say, give me my daughter's phone back. Punch her in the face, anything.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Tackle her, karate chop. I don't care.

[Will Friedle]

So I just. I don't, like, do something. But she does, so there's a lie. So she's okay. If you haven't seen the movie, none of this is a joke. So she does all this stuff. She pants, she sits, she rolls over like a dog. Watching her commit these humiliating acts. Pulls her oldest stepbrother out of his trance somehow, and he joins her on the the floor, also doing these dog things as a silly sign of unity. Then Coach Stepdad Ted breaks out and joins in as well. Then the rest of her brothers and Jackson Kale follow suit like it's some sort of line dance. Notice the mother does not come and join them, which I thought was really weird. This also, of course, infuriates.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You thought that was weird.

[Will Friedle]

I know, but it was one. One weird thing after another. This also infuriates Taylor, especially because the app isn't working anymore. Zoe explains you can never make a dog turn against its own pack. And then Rachel reveals herself to be the team mascot and tackles Taylor. Why did she have to be the mascot to do this? Couldn't she have tackled her, like, a while ago, just run out and tackled her before all the. Using the app and doing all this stuff.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Why? I also thought she was with. With Zoe. Wasn't. Didn't we see her with Zoe just not long before this?

[Will Friedle]

Yep, I think we did.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And then. And then she. She ends up, like, somehow, like, secretively jumping into this mascot. I don't know. I was. I was going, wait, what did she. Was she Doing this. Was this the part of the plan?

[Will Friedle]

I don't. I don't know. I don't know.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This is when I told you how I had to rewind it.

[Ramos]

I.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Because I think I took a break before this and went back and went, wait. Okay, okay.

[Will Friedle]

I felt the same way, by the way it is at this point, after watching it in chunks, I looked out of my watch and said, how is.

[Sabrina Bryan]

There still so much. I felt the same way. Like, this is not even almost done. I don't have a couple minutes left. There's 15.

[Will Friedle]

There was like 15 or 20 minutes left in the movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And you're going to.

[Will Friedle]

How?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, my God, how? What else is there to be done?

[Will Friedle]

Yep. So, yes, she gets tackled, the tackle hurls the phone into the air, and Zoe catches it to release everyone from their trance. The men aren't. The men aren't sure what happened, but who cares? It's game time. And okay, that's what's left in the movie, the basketball game. And man, does this basketball game feel so unimportant. Now Taylor assumes Zoe's gonna use the app to control the school and make every guy like her. But instead, our main character smashes the phone, breaking it forever. She says there's more to life than what's on the phone. And then the game that means nothing anymore starts. While Zoe tells the truth to Jackson, she also admits she likes him. And in turn, he admits that he likes her. He wants to go on a real date with her, none of this hangout stuff. Rachel interrupts them. It's time for the big halftime dance off. Another thing that means all. At this point, I didn't even remember it was happening at the end. I was like, oh, my God. And then they keep cutting to the college scout, like, what the. Who's taking notes in the front, right?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, yes, of the dancing, of the dance.

[Will Friedle]

Just all of it. Anyway, the dance off begins with the varsity squad taking the court first and performing a great routine. How will the JV rejects ever, ever beat them? Zoe tells her squad to just follow their hearts and have fun. Without the power of the app, who knows what'll happen? The school uses an applause meter to gauge the winner, and varsity is way out ahead as they wrap up their performance. It's JV's turn now, and they start with the traditional haka, something two of the nerds had been suggesting for the whole movie. Zoe joins in, and eventually the whole team breaks out into a very impressive hip hop routine. Fine. When everything is said and done, their Moves almost break the applause meter. And they didn't need the app after all. Which leads me to wonder, if they're the JV team, why did she have to do the app to get them to dance? Well, if they were good dancers the entire time, the JV team has won and will represent the school at stage. We fast forward well. Okay. I'm not even gonna get to the fast forward yet, because you're. Well, we're both resident dance experts, but I'll throw it to you first. What did you think of the two dances that meant nothing to anything, and we're just there to watch Zendaya dance?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I. I mean, I kind of just let the varsity one happen. Cause I was really just wanting to see Zendaya, to be honest. They were okay. They weren't, like, noticeably horrible, but they weren't necessarily effective either. I don't know if that makes sense. Right. You know, it's like, it was kind of. The. The first one was just. It was just kind of average. I don't think it was something like super impressive of any sort. The. It was just. Just.

[Will Friedle]

It was a dance.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Mediocre. Yeah. It wasn't like, anything great or. But then, you know, Zendaya's troupe, like, they're great.

[Will Friedle]

It was fine.

[Sabrina Bryan]

To me, it was kind of funny with the haka. Like, it was kind of like, okay, I guess we're really going for it. I'm not really quite sure, like, why Maui has jumped into my screen from. But that's what we're going for. Okay.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But again, Zendaya was just, like, mesmerizing. So I was, okay, she's a star.

[Will Friedle]

She's a star. Every time she's on screen, you can't take your eyes off her.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Amazing performer. Like, I'm like, oh, man, I wish I'd gone to the show when she was on Dancing with the Stars because she's just so good. I'm sure. So good. Life.

[Will Friedle]

I didn't know she was on Dancing with the Stars. I have never watched that show until this season.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But she's great.

[Will Friedle]

You can't take your eyes off her. She really. She's a total star. So we fast forward to sometime in the future. Zoe's entire family is getting ready for that jog, and Zoe's gonna join them. It appears they have successfully blended together and created one big, happy music. Movie over. Nope, movie's not over. We then find ourselves back in the tradition of characters dancing to music mixed in with bloopers for the credits. We even see One more scene where Ted accidentally calls Zoe Zendaya, and you would think that's the end of the movie again, but. But no. We get a rare dcom after credit scene. We see a male student cleaning the gym. He tries to impress a pretty girl by doing all the work for her detention. While sweeping, he notices the broken cell phone in the trash. He examines it, and when the girl sprays it with her perfume, it starts to spark again. And we're right back where we started. App ready to put everyone in a trance. But more importantly, thank God we're at the end of our movie. Who are these characters that we saw at the end? What did they have to do with anything? None of this made any sense. The end.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Like, God, this movie's over. Set up for a second one. I mean, I don't know. I don't know.

[Ramos]

Oh, it's just bad.

[Rosalind Sanchez]

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[Ramos]

My culture has inspired my music and songwriting, I think, from generations on over. I have it in my blood, my family, my grandparents. I feel like all this lineage with me everywhere I go, the mountains in Colombia, it's all there somehow, and it's inexplicable in certain ways. But then you hear the music and you feel it, I think language and family and culture and ways of seeing life and the passion that Colombia has and everything it does and the things we've been through together as a country, they really inspire you to create and give your best.

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[Ramos]

Hey, it's Ramos from the Life Is a Gringo podcast, and on this special episode, I'm getting real about sex, especially how growing up in a Latino household impacts the conversations we have about it. I think it's safe to say that most people's parents probably weren't too comfortable with the topic of sex and speaking about sex with their kid. You know, there are obviously a lot of stigmas around the topic of sex when it comes to our parents, and I think back to my own own personal experiences. You know, we never really had the birds and the bees talk. You know, it was more of like, you know, sex is something you save for someone you really care about and. And that was sort of the extent of it, right? You can listen to this special episode of Life as a Gringo brought to you by Healthy Sexual from Gilead sciences on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Will Friedle]

So anyway, let's do the real review, Sabrina, and you've got the one star. And we have an honorable mention this week too as well. So can you read us our one star reviews?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Absolutely. This one star comes from Shani St. Creepy movie. I'm against men personally so this movie didn't did spread a good message but dogs are the best and it's mean to connect them to men. Love it. Adorable.

[Will Friedle]

That to me is as good and normal and like thought out a review as the film was. Yeah. But the honorable mention might be the greatest review I've ever heard in my life. Can you read the one star honorable mention too please?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay. Honorable mention one star by Brian Frederick. If COVID 19 and cancer teamed up to make a movie, this would be would be this.

[Will Friedle]

There is a review for the ages people. I've got the five star review which I'm amazed we found one. Thank you producer Jensen. This is a 5 star review from Izzy H. Hello again guys. I watched this movie with my loud friends again but they were okay this time cause I threw popcorn at them. Lol. First of all, this movie is so good and shows a clear message that girls rule and boys suck. I like that. I knew so many people like the queen Zendaya, the boy from Radio Rebel and the dude from Lab Rats, the blonde mean girl from Zombies, someone from make it Pop and a guy from Descendants. I think the only improvement would be that all the characters wear plaid. Five stars.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

Thank you Izzy H. Maybe next time we break the pill in half. And now we come to Sabrina's favorite favorite part of our program, the feature game that we have. And so here we go to celebrate the debut of apps in a dcom. Thanks to the Listen and Obey app, a terrible name for a product by the way. We are going to be given the original names for apps or websites and we have to guess from a multiple choice list which very popular technological giant it became. So for example, here's an easy one. Uber Cab became Uber. Three out of five wins. Number one, Peekaboo. Was Peekaboo A Twitter, B TikTok or C Snapchat?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm gonna go with C Snapchat.

[Will Friedle]

I am too. I've never once ever used Snapchat. I don't know what it is, but I think if I know what it is, it's like that's the one where the picture comes up and then disappears. Right?

[Sabrina Bryan]

It, well it, it's only up for 24 hours. Was like the idea of it.

[Will Friedle]

I think like it goes away before, before we start. I'm sorry, we know the producer Jensen isn't here. Who do we have with us? Reading. Reading with us this week.

[Ramos]

Week.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You're Stuck with Lisa.

[Will Friedle]

Lisa.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Thank you.

[Will Friedle]

Never stuck with the joy to have.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So, yeah, there was this idea of, like, this was. I feel like Snapchat was right after, like, Facebook or whatever, where you put some. You post something and it's on forever.

[Will Friedle]

This was like.

[Ramos]

It goes.

[Sabrina Bryan]

This was. It only goes. It only is on for 24 hours and then it disappears. And that's when, like, kids would think, oh, it's not that big of a deal if I post. Like, a lot of issues that happen with Snapchat originally was, like, the kind of scandalous things that kids were posting because they thought they could just, like, take it off. But it's like, anyone can screenshot it. Anyone can see it, you know? So that Internet is forever, people. Peekaboo. Makes sense to me.

[Will Friedle]

Me too. Snap. Snapchat. We're gonna go both go with C. You're both correct. Yes. Okay, the next one. Number two, concinity is confinity. A PayPal, B Zelle or C Cash app.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm going to go with a PayPal.

[Will Friedle]

I'm going to agree with you. A PayPal.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It is PayPal. Yes.

[Will Friedle]

We are two for two. Number. Number three. Burbn. B U R B N Burbn. Was that a Duolingo? B Instagram or C WhatsApp? I'm gonna say it's B Instagram.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I guess I don't understand bourbon at all.

[Will Friedle]

I don't either, which is why I'm so weird.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I'm gonna go with C WhatsApp. It is Instagram.

[Will Friedle]

Hey, I already won.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I wonder what that. What that would be so weird to the.

[Will Friedle]

Obviously, the. The guys who created it, they knew exactly what that meant. It was some like. Well, I drank bourbon one night and I came up with this idea. It's going to be something like that. Number four, Backrub. Was Backrub. A Google, B Discord or C Uber.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Back. I feel like it was Google. I don't know why.

[Will Friedle]

I feel like I just heard this.

[Sabrina Bryan]

One for some reason.

[Will Friedle]

I'm going to say Google too.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It is Google.

[Will Friedle]

Hey, four for four people. You won two. We both won. We both won. And number five, Kibble. Was Kibble. A, Amazon. B, Facebook or C, Netflix, I think.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I don't know why. I'm gonna go with Amazon.

[Will Friedle]

A, A. I'm gonna say C, Netflix.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Did you just get a perfect score?

[Will Friedle]

Is it Netflix?

[Sabrina Bryan]

5, 4, 5.

[Will Friedle]

Oh, with the Internet.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Did you know any of those for sure right away? I knew, like, two. Okay. Yeah. Did you know the Kibble one? No. I Knew back rub. And I can't remember what the other.

[Will Friedle]

One was, by the way. Bourbon, backrub and kibble and confinity. All guesses for me. I figured peekaboo was Snapchat, but all the rest of them completely guessed.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Buy that lottery ticket right now, Will. Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Seriously? Seriously.

[Sabrina Bryan]

For real?

[Will Friedle]

Wow. Can we do Sabrina Sees, please? Sabrina Sees.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I thought you would actually catch on to this one, but this movie, Zendaya is the queen of, like, jackets slash blazers. Slash. Always has a second layer on.

[Will Friedle]

I didn't notice that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

She was just. I mean, and they were cute and I. That's probably why I. I recognize it a little bit more. Just like her friend always had a hat on. If it wasn't a fedora, it was like a sideways hip hop hat, you know?

[Will Friedle]

Right. Yeah.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And so, yeah, to the point where my second one is when her friend. Why can't I think of what Zoe's best friend's name is?

[Will Friedle]

Oh, Rachel.

[Sabrina Bryan]

When Rachel comes out of the mascot, I almost didn't recognize her because she did not have a hat on.

[Will Friedle]

Where's your hat?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah, it was like, your face looks different because you don't have half of it covered.

[Will Friedle]

That's great. Where's your hat?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Literally brought me straight to my second one. And then the last thing was just the bad girl's handshake. You know, how we've seen. I wanted to. Actually this is a question kind of for our producers who are complete, like, amazing, just pros at everything.

[Will Friedle]

Disney encyclopedias.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes. Did that handshake ever become like a meme or anything like that? Because there's a very distinct handshake between the bad girls. Right before they do their thing, they have like a flip, a hair flip into this or that. Lisa, do you know if anything happened from that? Because it was a pretty good handshake. I do not remember. All I know is that this one, the one scene in that movie where they get on the floor is always on TikTok talk. But other than that, I don't remember the handshake. I just recently saw. My last one was. I mentioned it earlier in the podcast that there was one of the most awkward scenes. And this is like on the top five most awkward scenes, like, on Instagram. It kind of made me go into it because I had. We hadn't seen this movie yet, but this clip where they are doing the dog thing and they're all. They all join in. This was on, like, Disney's number, like, top five, and it was like number two. It was. It Was I started researching it a little bit because we seen some of them. One of them was from the others.

[Will Friedle]

In the One Camp Rock 2, where they walk in doing the. The dance.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That one is on it, I'm trying to think of. And then there was like a waiver, a Waverly Place 1. And then this was on it. But anyway, so. Yes. So I had to make sure we talked about it. I thought we would have anyway, but it was bonkers. It was so weird. It was like, even though we had already seen so many just strange moments and characters and things that were going on, this still happened. And it happened at the end of the movie. And then again, we already talked about it. Then I was like, oh, my God, we still have so much more time and we've already passed the 90 minute mark at this point and you're just like going, what else could we do that's going to just make this movie?

[Will Friedle]

Yep, that was it. Okay. I never do this. I've literally. I don't think I've done this in however many movies we have reviewed. But I need to ask producer Lisa.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yes.

[Will Friedle]

Did you like this movie?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I will tell you, I have not. I did not rewatch it. I have not seen it since I did press for it in 2014.

[Will Friedle]

Okay.

[Sabrina Bryan]

But the answer is probably no. But I will tell you that you can tell a difference. So there is about a handful of Disney Channel movies that were made by an outside company. So it's like 16 wishes, Radio Rebel, this Radio Rebel, there's a couple others. And you can tell because they're also very heavily Canadian with, like their actors.

[Will Friedle]

Yep.

[Sabrina Bryan]

And you can just kind of tell a difference. And these ones Disney just kind of licensed, so it doesn't really have that same magic.

[Will Friedle]

It does not.

[Sabrina Bryan]

A real DCOM does.

[Will Friedle]

Doesn't of a real dcom. She called me it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Definitely. Well, yeah, like a fully produced, fully bringing in Disney writers, bringing in the whole thing. This movie fully misses the mark of a DCOM for sure. And now that you said that with the other ones, I feel like there were differences that you can see. Like, I remember thinking Radio Rebel didn't.

[Will Friedle]

We liked Radio Rebel, though.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We liked it, but it didn't seem like a. What we're used to seeing in geeks.

[Will Friedle]

I agree.

[Sabrina Bryan]

So.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, well, now we get to the point.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Thank you for that.

[Will Friedle]

Thank you. I had to ask producer Lisa because I was so curious because if you came on and said, this is my favorite movie, you and I would have to meet at a park 10 paces away from Each other.

[Sabrina Bryan]

You need to text. I'd be Michaela. Because it's possible that Michaela liked this movie.

[Will Friedle]

I don't want to know. Okay, so now we have to rate this movie. Let's do one out of ten this time. And we're going to make ten. No, we'll make ten. The biggest.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

Okay. So our options are one out of ten. Hanukkah's on rye. One out of ten. Chocolate carries fart bombs. Please don't pick that 1. Justin shorts. 1 out of 10. Sloppy nacho borsch witches. Jelly pickle taco caramel sundaes. 1 out of 10 shake dog commands. Musical theater inspired flash mobs are 1 out of 10. Confusing after credit scenes. Which one would you like to do this week?

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, I guess Confusing after credits scenes.

[Will Friedle]

Okay, I agree. I think. Do I go first this time or do you go first?

[Sabrina Bryan]

I think it's my turn to go first.

[Will Friedle]

Please take us there. Take us there.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, my gosh. You know, again, love, Zendaya. I can't say that more at all because this to me was an unfortunate situation she put. Had. Was put, placed in. Now we've done interviews and David Henry, who we have recently talked to, mentioned because I wasn't on a TV show for them, like on their shows. I was in the Declaration for them. He had mentioned that they're like in their contract of some sort. They had ties and like that this was an expectation. So. Because that's what he talked about with dad Nap. Yeah, that stuck with me a lot during this movie. Was this something that she read and would. Would have possibly passed on, but because in her contract with her show was kind of encouraged a little bit more to do this. I don't know. But it just didn't seem like a. Like a, Like a project she would have really jumped on. For me, this didn't seem like her brand either, if that makes sense. So I. I struggled really bad with this one. I. Again, I'm put in a position where I love the actor, love everything about them and their career. This was a miss, a huge miss for me. So I. This is one of my worst ratings and. And I want to say I'm sorry before I give Don't My girl, but. And her swaggers. But I'm giving this a 4.5. Confusing after credit.

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

After credit scenes. Yeah, that's fair.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, my God.

[Will Friedle]

It hurts.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It hurts me.

[Will Friedle]

I agree with everything you said. She's a star. You got to take her kind of out of the equation because we're here to talk about movies. Okay? So Double Teamed are all the other movies that I've given lower ratings to that I didn't like. I can get why other people would like. I could watch something like Double Teamed and see why somebody would. Would watch that at a certain age or any time and be like, you know what? This was one of my favorite movies. Okay. It wasn't for me, but I get that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Yeah.

[Will Friedle]

I don't see how anyone could watch this movie and like this, this movie. I don't. I don't understand it. So I think you were amazingly generous again, taking her out of the equation. I'm giving this to confusing after credit scenes. I liked nothing of this movie. This was if. If this, If Zendaya wasn't in this movie, this is the. One of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life. I just watched Troll 2, which is considered the worst movie ever made. And I had so much more fun watching Troll 22 than I had watching this movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Troll 2, like the cartoon?

[Will Friedle]

No, Troll 1. So trolls. What is considered one of the worst movies of all time is a movie called Troll 2, which literally has nothing to do with trolls. It has to do with Goblins, right? Yeah. Well, it's supposed to be, but it's not. It's like the dumbest.

[Sabrina Bryan]

It's older. Older.

[Cheekies and Chill Host]

Okay.

[Will Friedle]

Yeah, it's. It's awful, but it's awful in a fun, fun way. And yes, I think Jennifer Aniston was in the first Troll movie and the second one had nothing to do with it. It was about Goblin. But it became famous. They did a documentary. Michael Paul Stevenson, who was the kid star of Troll 2, did a documentary on Netflix, which is really funny about making this movie. It's great. That at least was tongue in cheek and fun. And I enjoyed watching one of the worst movies. This was just bad. Everything about it was bad. The acting was fine. I'm taking the acting completely out of the equation because even the other actors in the project who had the, you know, had to do characters like the. The fart meister or whatever his name was. The acting wasn't bad at all.

[Sabrina Bryan]

They actually sold it. It just was weird that they were doing it in general.

[Will Friedle]

I do not blame the cast for this one at all, which is the cast alone. Bumps this up to a 2 for me.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Wow.

[Will Friedle]

A 2 confusing after credit scenes. This was not a good movie. I again, stand by. This was not a good movie. Get why people would be like, double teamed was great. Or you're such a Jerk Brink is amazing. I get that point of view. You this. I don't see how you could defend this movie. It was just bad. Anyway, there we are wrapping it up. Thank God. Next week we're doing Zapped two. No, I'm kidding.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Oh, my God.

[Will Friedle]

They never made that.

[Sabrina Bryan]

I swear to God, I would be out.

[Will Friedle]

We are ending Magical Rewind right now. Exactly, please. I think. I think our next movie is going to be awesome. I'm hoping because we really liked the first one. Yes, that's right. Sorry. We're going back to spooky season and sequel season. It's time to tackle Halloween Town 2 with. With my good friend Kimberly. So I'm. I'm excited for this one because we liked the first one. We love the world. Some people, I think, even like the second one better than they liked the first one.

[Sabrina Bryan]

That's what I've heard. Yeah, I'm excited for it.

[Will Friedle]

I am, too. And I need a good palette cleanser now. So, as you can imagine, Halloween Town 2 is available to stream on Disney. So make sure you go and do your homework. But. But before we all get scared together, let's take a trip back to what we were talking about, to Camp Rock. For our Park Hopper episode, we spoke to Anna Maria Perez de Tagli, who is known to magical Rewinders as Ella from the Camp Rock movies, or Ashley DeWitt from Hannah Montana. With all this chatter about an upcoming Camp Rock sequel, we had an awful lot to talk about. So let's hear a preview of what you can expect.

[Sabrina Bryan]

We had a different director.

[Will Friedle]

We had a different choreographer.

[Sabrina Bryan]

The dancing with was so much harder.

[Will Friedle]

And I did half of that movie.

[Sabrina Bryan]

With a sprained foot.

[Will Friedle]

So all of the dance numbers, especially, we can't back down, which is the, you know, the. The sign language one. I was struggling, and me watching it.

[Sabrina Bryan]

Back, I was like, I could see that struggle. I'm sure now that I'm telling everyone.

[Will Friedle]

People will watch it back and be like, oh, yeah, she did not turn on Beat. Ooh, that was a good one. Yes, it was. Make sure to subscribe to the dedicated Magical Rewind feed so you don't miss it. And listen to all of our interviews sitting in our archives by subscribing. For even more info, you can follow us @magicalrewindpod on Instagram now. Oh, I'm so glad that movie's over, actually. What's funny, the movie's done, and yet somehow there's still 15 minutes left. Thanks, everybody. We'll see you next time. Bye.

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