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In the past couple of weeks, I've been having several conversations with folks who are on the verge of making a decision on whether or not they're going to launch a podcast. One of them originally came to me because they were looking for a strategy on how to get booked successfully on other people's podcasts. And in this conversation, this individual told me that one of the things that had been suggested to him was, starting your own show, putting your own voice out there. And ironically, this individual began to share a lot of fear that maybe, just maybe, I don't know, that I have enough confidence in my own experience and all of these other things to just get behind the mic. I feel like there's so many more things I need to achieve, to accomplish before I would ever launch my own podcast. And the thought occurred to me, and I actually said it out loud. I'm like, why would anyone else invite you to be a guest on their podcast if you don't have the confidence to invite yourself on your own podcast? Now, I will tell you that there was a little bit of silence after I had said that. And I will tell you, this individual has a podcast today. So that definitely stirred some things up. We uncovered some beliefs. And one of the things that was said is, you know, here's the thing, Cliff. I always want to do things with the highest levels of integrity, and I can't just jump in and create any kind of content around lifestyle until I've sorted my own lifestyle out. I sat with that for just a moment, and then I blurted out something else. I said, you know, if you wait for you to get your lifestyle sorted out, you'll never have a lifestyle podcast. I often ask for permission when I'm working with somebody in a coaching capacity. And I say, listen, I'm going to ask you for permission. May I be your coach? And before you say yes, what I'm asking is, can I say things to you or ask you questions that will challenge how you think at the deepest level? And I do not proceed any further unless the answer to that question is yes. By the way, it's only happened once, but one person said no. And I'm like, great, do you just want to chat about the weather? Do you have other things you want to do with your time? Because we're not going to do any coaching here today. Seriously. I refused to coach that person because I didn't have permission to challenge the way this person was thinking. That did not happen with this individual. But anyway, what I have noticed, and it comes up a lot, and it has been coming up even more frequently lately, ever since I've brought back Podcast Answerman. And more and more people are coming back to me once again because they're like, cliff, I heard that it's okay to reach out to you and ask you questions about launching a podcast. I'm like, absolutely, ask away. Let's talk about it. And what I found is that most people are not going to say it directly, but what they're really saying is I need to have it all figured out before I'm allowed to teach anything. I kind of have to master this. I have to have lots of experience, or at least I need more experience than I currently have. Another thing they say often is I need more credentials. I'm not certified, by the way. My favorite part is when I'm working with somebody who's building a coaching business or wants to build a coaching business. And I Love that. I'm four or five months into a one year coaching agreement where they're paying me $15,000 for the year for one 90 minute call per month. And they tell me that they can't quite have the courage to ask people to come into coaching sessions and they're struggling to make a proposal at a certain rate because they don't feel qualified because they're not certified in anything. And meanwhile, let me just tell you, I don't bring anybody into a paid coaching relationship that doesn't have tons of experience, tons of skills, talents and abilities in that area. And by the way, they are very much compensated at a very high level doing exactly those things. Just they're doing it currently as an employee instead of full time self employed. So they're making this transition. So these are people who are already doing everything that. But yet it's like, Cliff, I just don't know that I should be. I don't think I'm eligible. I don't think I'm credible as a paid coach because I'm not certified. And then my favorite thing to say is like, well, wait a second, you do realize that you are coaching with me in a paid coaching capacity, Is that correct? Yes. I love our conversations. Every time we have a conversation, I have major clarity about my next steps. So many insights. I've learned more about myself in the last few months than I have probably in the last 10 years. This is amazing. I said, well, one of the most interesting things is that you've never once in all of the leading up to before I ever proposed to you, I gave you two full blown experiences of my coaching as my gift to you. And then I just simply asked you, would you like more of this? And you said, absolutely, yes, I definitely want more of this. And then we proceeded and we're a few months into our coaching relationship. I said, would it be surprising to you to know that I have not graduated from any university, I have no degree, and as far as coaching is concerned, I have zero certifications. And they're like, really? And I'm like, really? But that hasn't kept me from generating the millions of dollars over the last 18 years in my business. And it's silent for a moment and we have some conversation. But again, people feel like I have to have it all figured out. I need more experience than I currently have. I need credentials. More credentials. Matter of fact, the number of people who actually they're credentialed up right, they have so many letters after their name. They are so far more credentialed than I am. And yet they never questioned for a second whether or not it was going to be worth it for them to hire me and pay me for this coaching package. And yet they feel like they need more credentials. It just happens. They feel like, oh man, I just need to feel more confident. And one of the things I'll just share with you real quickly is confidence is never what is necessary for you to get started in something. In fact, you can't even ever get to the place of starting something new or developing something like getting into paid coaching with confidence if you've never done it before. Confidence comes after you have moved past all of your fears, all of your worries, all of your doubts. You've taken action anyway. And then all of a sudden people start to experience transformation and you start seeing success and your worst fears didn't come true. Or maybe some of your fears did come true and they weren't nearly as bad as you thought. And over time, you do things enough and eventually you develop confidence. But you don't need to feel more confident to get started. All you need is courage. So just keep that in mind. But anyway, the overall thing, I just need to be further along. And if you just wait until you're complete, you just. I'm sorry, but is there ever a day when you're complete, when you have finished growing? You get where I'm going with that. Anyway, I was in another conversation recently. This one is somebody who is going to be attending my workshop at Social Media Marketing World in about a week and a half from now. I've reached out to everybody using the conference app. The Whova app tells Me. Here are the people who have RSVP'd that they are coming to your 90 minute workshop on podcasting. And one of the things that I've been doing is as people rsvp, I send them a little message inside of the conference app and says, hey, I just wanted to say that I noticed that you are RSVP to attend my session. I'm honored that you'll be attending. I have a question for you. What are you most hoping to get out of the session? Is there anything in particular that you are hoping that I will include in the session that would be valuable for you? And this has led to a lot of wonderful conversations. And one of those conversations started out and then I asked a couple of questions as a follow up and then this person told me this. I would like to translate a particular area of expertise into a separate revenue stream. I'll give you a little background. I do work with very large organizations. It's a pay for my time kind of job. I would like a long term exit strategy where I can share this expertise and generate passive income. However, I have two main hesitations. Actually, there were three, and I'm just leaving the first one out because I don't want to have any identifying information in here about this individual. So we'll skip hesitation number one. But the second invitation is, I know nothing about podcasting and the fear of something untested and unfamiliar is real. The third hesitation is, I don't doubt my credentials, but touting myself as an expert feels uncomfortable and unnatural to me. And then this individual asks, can I be authentic to my personality and be successful as a podcaster? Well, first of all, the answer to that final question is yes. And in fact, being authentic to your personality is the key to your success as a podcaster. But that's not the topic here today. I'll come back to this. Not knowing anything about podcasting and the fear of something untested and unfamiliar. But right here I want to speak to this person that states that they don't doubt their credentials, but the idea of touting themselves as an expert feels uncomfortable and unnatural. And to that I have two questions. What if the goal isn't to position yourself as an expert? And what if you show up as someone who is simply paying attention? What if you get behind the mic and you just say, hmm, here's what I'm noticing, here's what I'm learning. Here are some things that have been changing for me as I go along this journey. If you just simply shared those things and only Those things in your podcast episodes, that alone would be valuable. You see, when I launched Podcast Answerman, I basically shared, this is who I am. This is where I've been, this is where I am right now. And these are my dreams, hopes and plans for the future. Now, the great thing about this podcast is you could go all the way back to episode number one and listen to it for yourself. In fact, if this topic is resonating with you, I highly encourage you to go back and listen to episode number one. In fact, it may be worthy of your time, effort, and energy to pause this episode, go back and listen to episode number one, or at least the first 20, 30 minutes of it. Or heck, go ahead and listen to the whole thing. I haven't done it in years. But anyway, go listen to it and then when you are finished, come back here. This is episode 494, and click play and pick this episode up right here where you left off. Now, admittedly, I haven't listened to episode number one in many years, but here's how I remember it in my mind right now. When I started the podcast, it was something along the lines of, well, hello everyone, my name is Cliff Ravenscraft, and welcome to this brand new podcast, the Podcast Answer Man. I've been podcasting for about one year now. I started podcasting about the television show Lost, and through some amazing circumstances, I grew a sizable audience right out of the gate. It blew me away and I got hooked. And I, through certain reasons that I'll explain, I ended up launching several other podcasts to the point where now I have. I forget how many podcasts I had at the time, but it's been a year and I've produced a lot of shows. I'm producing about seven or more episodes a week every week. And I absolutely love podcasting. Now, when I started, I struggled immensely with all of these technical issues and all this other stuff. I've learned a lot of things along the way. There's still a lot of improvement on my end that I need to do. But you know what, here's where I am. One of the things that's happened a lot lately is people have come to me and asked me, cliff, how are you producing so much content? And what tools are you using? What software are you using? How did you do that? How do you do this? And I figure, you know what? I've been copying and pasting and sending emails to people, and I figure, well, maybe I should just create a podcast where I answer people's questions and the same questions seem to be coming up and I can record entire episodes on it and then send them a link to the episode and say, hey, listen to this. See if it answers your question to a degree that you're satisfied with. And after listening to this episode where I've attempted to answer that question, if you still have questions, reach out to me. That's the kind of the idea of this podcast that I'm launching. Now let me talk about the brand name of Podcast Answer Man. You see, I don't necessarily claim to have all of the answers. Now, I will tell you, I've become so passionate about podcasting that I've devoted a lot of hours. In fact, I think you'll be hard pressed to find many people, if anyone, who is as passionate about podcasting as I am. And chances are, if you were to submit me questions to answer about podcasting, there's likely going to be questions that you will ask that I don't, do not have the answers to. However, I am somebody who is willing to go and find those answers. I know that answers to those questions are out there. I can and will go find them. And the best part is having me go find them instead of you go find them. It may take me a few minutes, a few hours, maybe even a few days, but eventually I will have found the answer. Come here, share it. And the best part is I will get a return on investment of that time, effort, and energy because I will have provided the answer for you, and then it will have been documented. And each time that question comes up in the future, I already have the answer and I become more valuable. And that's so Podcast Answer Man. I just want you to know I'm not. I am not somebody who has all of the answers. I'm just the guy that you can go when you have a question that you want answered. Related to Podcast Answer Man. That's why this show is called Podcast Answer Man. Do you see how when I mean that, it was far more eloquent than episode one was. I'm certain of it. But here's what I will tell you. Did I position myself as an expert? No. I said, this is who I am. I'm Cliff Ravenscraft. I'm this guy in Northern Kentucky. Here's how I got started in podcasting. This is how things took off. I didn't really plan it all out. It kind of just fell into my lap. And this is what I've been doing. This is where I am right now. And here's what I'm experiencing. That's why I'M launching this show. And by the way, and here's that fourth item. These are my hopes, dreams and plans for the future. Now, I do know in that first episode of this podcast, I said something like, wouldn't it be cool if maybe at some point in the future, I don't know, if it was five to 10 years down the road, what if I were to be able to make a living doing podcast consulting and coaching instead of taking over the family insurance business that my grandfather started in 1937, where I am next in line to take it over from my mom and dad. I've been working in insurance for the last 12 years and I'm next in line to take it over. And I gotta tell you what I've experienced in podcasting over the last 12 months. I've begun to ask myself, what would life be like if I did this for a living instead of that? I don't know that that's actually possible. It might be a pipe dream. But hey, I am just sharing with you, it is a dream of mine. It's not necessarily something I'm currently pursuing. It seems like pie in the sky to me. But there's a part of me that hopes that one day this would be possible, as crazy as that is. But anyway, that's neither here nor there. This is the podcast answer man. I'm here to answer some questions, by the way. Let's start off by answering some common questions that I get. And again, it's been a very long time since I listened to episode one, and chances are some of you, maybe even you, has just gone and finished it. And so you know what I said. But you get the gist. What if you don't position yourself as an expert, but all you do is just say, this is who I am. This is where I've been and how I got here. This is actually where I am right now, and this is where I plan to go moving forward. These are my hopes, these are my dreams, these are my plans for the future, and I'm going to document the process as we go. And you know what happened? Over time, other people began to tout me as an expert in the podcasting space. And over even more time, I became very comfortable positioning myself as an expert in the space. At one point, it was just absolutely undeniable. It was just clear. I mean, I had had so many different elevations in the podcast industry. It's like, oh my gosh, this really is my life. And by the way, for those that don't know this. So in episode One, I said, wouldn't it be. I mean, this may be crazy, but wouldn't it be cool if one day I could do this for a living? It was 12 months later and I left my day job and I've been full time self employed since. But I wasn't positioning myself as some sort of expert. And if you go back, listen. By the way, think about this. For those of you who went back and listened to episode number one, keep in mind, I had already been podcasting for a full year. I had already produced well over a hundred episodes, maybe even a few hundred episodes. One of my shows was daily. Actually multiple shows at some point was daily. But even with all of that, lots and lots and lots of hours, hundreds of hours of content behind the microphone before episode one of Podcast Answer man was recorded. And listen to my communication style then, compared to what you're hearing in this episode, you see so many people want to launch a podcast and sound as confident and clear and carry the ability to communicate like this in episode number one. And it's never happened. Now I can tell you I have had a couple of people who have launched a podcast in episode number one. They sounded confident, clear, bold, didn't need lots of edits, didn't have lots of filler words. By the way, this podcast episode right here, episode 494, I refuse to do any edits on this episode. So there have been. Nothing has been edited out of this episode. This is what I call a live to drive episode. So the fact that there hasn't been ums and ahs all throughout is not because I edited them out, it's because I don't do them anymore. But back then I did. And if you heard any in that first episode, that's after I edited the the show. Ah. You see, you don't have to wait until you're finished to start a podcast. In fact, unfinished people are often more trustworthy. It's unfinished people who still remember what it feels like to be right there where the average listener is now. Unfinished people, don't oversimplify the process. And unfinished people are not trying to protect some sort of identity, Persona, or ego that says, I have it all together, I've got it all figured out. I am the go to authority that has all of your answers. You know, I actually think that there's a kind of clarity that only exists if you're an unfinished person. There are certain people who will only resonate with somebody who is just a little further along than they are. I've oftentimes taught A lot of things that I learned from Tony Robbins. And I would hesitate to share those things until somebody says, cliff, I'm glad you're sharing them, because quite frankly, I don't resonate with Tony Robbins. He seems so unapproachable to me. He seems so this. I don't feel like he experiences any of the things, things that I face in my life. He seems so far above and beyond. And that's not to say anything negative about you, but you share enough of your story to know that your life isn't so different from mine. And I get this sense that, man, when you talk about these things and you talk about them from experience, you're not just sharing an idea, you're talking about how you learned it and have applied it and integrated and, and tested it out for yourself and what your experiences were and how you evolved with it. And I watched and I saw the impact. I saw the influence and you're teaching me. And because I've witnessed it in you, somebody who's not so far ahead of me, it's given me hope. There's something that exists in that that will only resonate if you are that unfinished person. You know, I'll speak real quickly to that other hesitation, the person that said, I know nothing about podcasting and the fear of something untested and unfamiliar is real. Now, I know this speaks a lot to maybe the presumption that I'm going to develop passive income from producing content. And there seems to be a lot of promise out there from a lot of other people that says that you can create a podcast and you can bring in ad revenue and sponsors and all of these other things. And I'm not saying those things aren't possible, but the average person is not going to be able to leave the trading my time for money day job things that you've got going on and do that. And thankfully, this person did say, I'm looking for. What was the phrase? Let me go back and says, I'm looking for a long term exit strategy. And that's great because I think a podcast, for most people who don't already have a massive audience, it is a long term exit strategy. And it doesn't have to be as long as you think it is, unless you wait until you're comfortable to produce the content. If you're waiting until you're polished and perfect, you're not going to produce content or you're going to do something terrible, which is to go out and have all of these AI tools and create things that's gonna like, oh, my gosh. Now, this is highly valuable. This stuff that just came out of Chat GPT or Claude or Perplexity or whoever you're using for your AI tools. Man, this is brilliant. Yes. I th this entire outline. Wow. I know all of this is true because I've been in this space. This is. This is brilliant. I am now gonna hit record and I'm gonna read this. And you could think that you're polished, you could get really excited about that. But, boy, the more you try to pretend to be that expert, having it all together and all figured out, you're just losing the benefit of being the unfinished person. You see, podcasting is not a skill that you're going to master before you start it. One of my dear friends, Pat Flynn, he has achieved so much success since he launched his podcast. And when he and I started working together, he had already experienced massive success beyond what most people could imagine with his blog, Smart Passive Income. But one of the things that he put off for a very long time was launching his own podcast. And he was afraid to put his voice out there. He was very insecure in how he sounded. Now, I'm not saying anything that Pat hasn't told many times on stage, but he has shared that I helped him overcome that imposter syndrome and that fear of putting his voice out there. And just like Pat, just like myself, and just like everyone else out there, our first episodes weren't anywhere near what our content today sounds like. You see, podcasting is a skill that you learn by doing it badly for a while. And you have to be willing to get it wrong, to make mistakes. And I highly encourage you to not delete those episodes. Leave them in the archives. One day, you'll thank me for that. You'll still cringe when you go back and listen to it yourself. But. But it will be very valuable when other people come to you for some encouragement and they tell you how, you know, I just don't feel like I have what it takes to get started. And you're gonna say, you know what? Go listen to what I did in my first few episodes. Here's the thing. If you were to go and start a podcast this week, I encourage you just to record one episode. Not seven to ten episodes, so you have a bunch of them at launch so you can get your download numbers up. No, go record one episode about something that you're currently working through, some obstacle that you're overcoming, some hurdle that you're jumping over. And then when you speak about that in your podcast, I want you to speak to somebody who is the version of you from six months ago. And don't try to be so comprehensive that you got everything figured out and all of that other stuff. Just simply be honest about what you're facing, what you're learning, what you're experiencing, and talk about your plan that you intend to implement in the days ahead and make a commitment to come back again next week and talk about your results in a very honest way. That would be enough for one episode. The one thing I will tell you is that if you're waiting until you feel finished, you'll be waiting forever. But if you'll be willing to speak while you're still in the midst of figuring it out, you just might be exactly the voice that someone else needs to hear right now. If this episode resonates with you, I need to hear from you. My email address is cliffliffravenscraft.com it's in the show notes. Let me know what this episode has inspired within you. I can't wait to hear from you. Until next time, I encourage you to take everything you do to the next level podcast and some man.
Host: Cliff Ravenscraft
Date: April 17, 2026
In this episode, Cliff Ravenscraft tackles one of the most persistent obstacles he sees among aspiring podcasters and coaches: the belief that you must be a “finished” expert—completely confident and credentialed—before you can create valuable content or help others. Drawing from personal experience, client stories, and his own podcasting journey, Cliff argues that unfinished people—those still learning, evolving, and figuring things out—are uniquely positioned to be trustworthy, relatable teachers. This episode explores why authenticity, vulnerability, and willingness to "figure it out in public" are more powerful than polished perfection, especially in podcasting.
Common Fears Among Aspiring Creators:
Cliff recounts conversations with people hesitant to start their own podcast because they feel they lack enough experience, confidence, or credentials. Many believe they must "have it all figured out" before offering value.
Confidence Is Not Required to Start:
Cliff emphasizes that confidence comes after action, not before. Taking courageous first steps is how confidence is built.
The Problem With Credential Chasing:
Many people, even highly accomplished professionals, struggle with imposter syndrome and believe more letters behind their name are necessary before charging for their services. Ironically, they’ve never doubted Cliff's value—despite his lack of certifications.
You Don’t Need to Be the Expert:
Cliff reframes the idea of thought leadership, suggesting that simply sharing your journey, observations, and current learning is more relatable and valuable than presenting as a flawless expert.
Cliff’s Own Podcasting Origin Story:
Sharing his own humble beginnings (including the raw and awkward first episode of Podcast Answer Man), Cliff demonstrates that growth and authority develop through the work, not before it.
The Power of Documenting the Journey:
Cliff argues that listeners find inspiration and hope when they see someone just a little ahead on the same path, grappling with challenges and learning publicly.
Relatability and Trust:
Unfinished teachers still remember what it was like to be a beginner and avoid oversimplifying or protecting an image or ego. This transparency fosters trust.
Clarity From Self-Awareness and Humility:
Cliff notes that real clarity—for both teacher and audience—emerges when the teacher is honest about being mid-journey, not at the finish line.
Real Examples and Testimonials:
Cliff uses the example of Tony Robbins being admired from afar, but himself being chosen as a coach because he was "relatable" and still "in the trenches," which inspires real-world hope and connection.
Don’t Overthink Your Launch:
Cliff advises first-time podcasters to resist the urge to perfect several episodes before launching—instead, record one honest episode about what you’re facing or learning right now.
Leave the Blemishes in the Archive:
Don’t delete early episodes, no matter how cringey they seem later—they show your real evolution and can provide encouragement to future beginners.
Authenticity as a Success Key:
Especially in podcasting, striving for authenticity and congruence with your real personality works better than trying to imitate expertise or perfection.
On Permission to Coach:
“May I be your coach? …what I’m asking is, can I say things to you or ask you questions that will challenge how you think at the deepest level?” (06:51)
On Imposter Syndrome:
“My favorite thing to say is like, well, wait a second, you do realize that you are coaching with me in a paid coaching capacity. Is that correct? …Would it be surprising to you to know that I have not graduated from any university, I have no degree, and as far as coaching is concerned, I have zero certifications.” (14:52)
On the Journey:
“You don’t have to wait until you’re finished to start a podcast. In fact, unfinished people are often more trustworthy.” (45:56)
On “Expert” Positioning:
“I just want you to know…I am not somebody who has all of the answers. I’m just the guy you can go to when you have a question that you want answered.” (37:18)
On Learning by Doing:
“Podcasting is a skill that you learn by doing it badly for a while.” (56:25)
| Timestamp | Topic / Moment | |-------------|------------------------------------------------| | 00:54 | Fear and lack of confidence among would-be creators | | 06:51 | Cliff's approach to coaching permission and challenging beliefs | | 13:06 | Courage, not confidence, is the starting point | | 14:52 | The credential myth and surprising clients | | 21:13 | “Is there ever a day when you’re complete?” | | 24:28 | Authenticity as the key success factor | | 25:21 | What if you showed up as “someone paying attention”? | | 32:33 | Cliff’s origin story and episode 1 reflection | | 35:55 | The myth of immediate expertise | | 37:18 | The real meaning behind “Podcast Answer Man” | | 45:56 | “Unfinished people are often more trustworthy”| | 47:11 | Unfinished teachers avoid ego protection | | 50:08 | The importance of being just a bit ahead | | 56:25 | “You learn by doing it badly for a while” | | 59:06 | Practical advice: one honest episode at a time|
“If you’re waiting until you feel finished, you’ll be waiting forever. But if you’ll be willing to speak while you’re still in the midst of figuring it out, you just might be exactly the voice that someone else needs to hear right now.”
— Cliff Ravenscraft [01:03:03]
Feedback or stories inspired by this episode? Cliff invites you to email him at cliff@cliffravenscraft.com.