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AudioBlog: The Mystery of UFOs, Past Present and Future
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by UFO History Buff & https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CZTMML84?ref_=k4w_oembed_IuooMBxCsJin47&tag=kpembed-20&linkCode=kpd, Charles Lear While J. Allen Hynek was bringing the invisible college out into the open, he became involved with a...
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Hi everyone. I'm releasing this in our usual spot on Tuesday night because our guests had to be moved to Thursday. So now Thursday we have a double header in both NASA people, Mike Gold at 8pm and also Greg Martin's at 9pm so check that out. That will be released as a regular podcast and on YouTube as well and other platforms. So I'm going to read an audio blog by Charles Lear. It's called the mystery of UFOs past, present and Future. This isn't exactly a usual Audio blog by Charles Leer. It's part of an actual excerpt from his book. Coming up, a series of books the UFO Investigators While Jay Allen Hynek was bringing the Invisible College into the open, he became involved with a documentary that has Rod Serling as its main host along with Burgess Meredith, Jose Ferreira and Jacques Valet. The movie makes a compelling argument that UFOs should be taken seriously and includes appearances by former Blue Book heads Robert Friend and Hector Quintanella. And its release in 1974, it was titled UFOs Past, Present and Future, which was changed to UFOs. It has begun for its release in 1976 and in 1979. Besides being informative and entertaining and preserving a bit of UFO history for future researchers, the story behind its production has become part of UFO history as well as as its producers were reportedly misled by the Pentagon into believing they would receive classified footage of a UFO landing at Holloman Air Force Base in May of 1971. The footage was described as showing a meeting between the UFO occupants and Air Force officials. According to the producer, main writer and composer Robert Emmenager, it was going to be the finale of the documentary until the DoD withdrew the offer at the last minute. Robert Emmenager was interviewed by mel Fabregas in 2009. According to him, he and Alan Sandler had originally set out to produce a series of films about advanced military technology, but they were diverted by an intriguing piece of information offered by their military contact at Norton Air Force Base. Paul Chartel Shartel Security manager and chief requirements for the audio visual program at the base, said that he had seen a film of an alien craft landing at Holloman Air force base in 1971. As discussions about possible projects continued, the idea that one of them would be about UFOs came up and was encouraged by military officials who offered the producers the use of the footage. Emanager and Sandler decided to go ahead with a UFO documentary and the film was made. Watching the film, the cooperation of the DoD is apparent. Besides the appearance of two former Blue Book directors, Former Air Force Public Information officer for Project Blue book, Colonel William Coleman, describes the military's involvement with UFOs while walking through the inner ring of the Pentagon, Robert Friend seems particularly pro UFO as he tells of a bizarre contactee case involving a Naval Intelligence officer who was investigating it, going into a trance and channeling a group of aliens. According to Friend, the aliens produced a flying disc for the officers, fellow investigators on request. Friend is later seen interviewing the 4 Army Reserve crew member who was involved in the COIN helicopter incident. What should be of interest to historians is a discussion among J. Allen Hynek, Robert Friend, Hector Quintanella, and Al Chop. Al Chop was a press liaison at the Pentagon who dealt with UFO inquiries and was in the radar room during the 1952 UFO flap in Washington, DC. They all give their speculations on what might be behind the UFO mystery, ranging from Hynek's interdimensional theory to Chop's belief that creatures from other planets are visiting Earth. Quintanella, who was infamous as a hardened skeptic and debunker during his time at Blue Book, says that he believes E.T. is out there. At the end of the film is an illustrated sequence that is described by Rod Serling as an event that might happen in the future or perhaps could have happened already. It shows the purported landing at the meeting. According to Emanager, this was based on the film footage that was promised by the Air Force. Just before. The illustrated sequence is in 8 seconds. Of what Chartel and Emineg are claimed on the 1988 television show UFO Cover Up Live is footage of the UFO descending before it landed. During his interview with Fabregas, Emanager begins by giving his background, which seems to offer credence to his being offered film footage that would most likely be highly classified. According to him, he was the creative director at Gray Advertising Company, which had done work for the Nixon administration. Emanager brings up his and Sandler's earlier relationship with the US government, saying that they had made a film for the Navy to help sailors recognize an alcohol problem and had also made a series of promos in support of public funding for NASA's space shuttle program. He says he was a friend of Nixon's chief of staff, Bob Haldeman, and that Heger received a letter from Nixon asking for names of people he'd recommend to be part of Nixon's administration. After giving the background information, Eminega goes into the details of how the DoD's offer of the film footage came about. He says that Chartel took him and Sandler into a, quote, clean room, which is a room free of mics and cameras, and told them about the Holloman film and how it had been sent to Norton. According to him, Chartel said that if they were interested, they should talk to a certain captain, and Emanager doesn't recall the name who would put them in touch with the Pentagon. According to Emanager, he and Sandler visited the Pentagon repeatedly and never signed, in which he had also been the case at Norton. He speculates that this was for the purpose of plausible deniability. He says they met with Colonel William Coleman who okayed the use of the film and told them that the Air Force would sponsor the documentary. This was, according to Eminega, for the purpose of improving public relations with the military. In the aftermath of the Vietnam War, Emanago says there were production meetings at the Pentagon where no one questioned the section of the script dealing with the Holloman case. He said I couldn't believe it but. But I said oh well and went along with it, according to Emanager. After a long wait, Coleman told the producers that the climate created by the Watergate scandal made it inappropriate at that time to release the Holman footage. The movie was finished and released in 1974 and the illustrated sequence was used in place of the Holman film. It's quite a story, but the main source is Eminegger. One might dismiss it if there were any doubts as to him and his credibility. But as with many UFO tales, there is a twist which came about in 1988 with a television show, UFO Cover up, hosted live by Mike Farrell. Near the beginning of the program, Coleman and friend appear and Coleman tells of being in a B25 while chasing a 70 foot disc over Alabama in 1955. Later, just after the 46 minute mark, after talking with William Moore, Stanton Friedman and Jesse Marcel Jr. About Roswell, Farrell walks over to sit down with Immenager and Chartel. Immenager tells the story of how Chartel brought up the Holman film. And then Farrell asks, what did you see Mr. Chartel? Shartel describes seeing three dish shaped craft. According to him, one seemed to be having problems and and it landed while the other two left. He says that three aliens came out at which point a chuckle escapes from Farrell as yes, what did they look like? Chantel describes them this way. Well, they were human size, had an odd gray complexion and a pronounced nose. They wore tight fitting jumpsuits, thin headdresses that appeared to be communication devices and in their hand they held a translator. I was told a Hallman base commander and other Air Force officials went out to meet them. Emmanager tells Farrell, well, although the Pentagon had been very very cooperative all the way, at the last minute the film was confiscated and we lost the whole finale of our show. He says that what he saw and heard convinced him that the UFO phenomenon was real. Ferrell asked Chartel what he was told by his superiors and Chartel tells him that he was told the film was theatrical footage purchased by the Air Force to make a training film. Farrell suggests that this is plausible, a plausible explanation, and Shartel tells him that his job was to keep an accurate records of such purchases and that he didn't have one for the footage in question. The twist in the story is that the UFO cover up live has also become part of UFO history and because of the involvement of Richard Doty, a self proclaimed CIA trained Air Force Office of Special Investigations disinformation agent. Doty is the face of the movie poster for the 2013 documentary Miragement where he admits and claims he was the key player starting in 1980 in the Afosi disinformation operation, primarily targeting APRO members Paul Benowitz and William Moore, who participated, according to him and Doty, along with investigative journalists and documentary filmmaker Linda Moulton Howe. Doty appears on the show in a shadow with his voice disguise, identified as a government insider with the code name Falcon. He denies it was him, but in his distinctive classes and vocal inflections say otherwise and informs the viewing audience that the US is housing an alien guest that likes ancient Tibetan music and strawberry ice cream. As far as this writer can find, Alan Sandler has never publicly commented on the documentary or the validity of Amanago's claims. As for his involvement with any sort of intelligence organization, there is one that is definitely he was a producer as part of the Sandler Burns Marmor Productions of Lancelot Link Secret Chimp, a show he describes as like a get smart with an entire cast of chimps. Emanega worked on the show as the composer. Both men were also involved in the creation of several B grade science fiction movies produced by Sandler Institutional Films, so their nature of their creative involvement puts their background in this writer's mind in a less serious light than that portrayed by Emmenager when talking about Holloman. While it might seem likely that Emmanager made up the story, why would Shartel back him in front of a television audience if the story is true? Does the DoD actually have footage of aliens and their craft or do they just say they did and and if so, for what purpose? As it turns out, Sandler did address these sorts of questions privately with Valet, who made several journal entries during his and Hynek's involvement with the production. In the May 25, 1974 entry in Forbidden Science 2, Jacques Vallee recounts a discussion at Emmenegger's house between him, Emmenager and Sandler, with Hynek sitting silent while smoking his pipe. According to Valet, Sandler said he was hired to make routine documentaries on cancer treatment by radiation and brain computer linkage. This was a pet project of Dr. Joseph Kahl Robinette Lichtender, who was head of the Advanced Research Project Agency's information processing office. Sandler told Valet that the client told him, in Vallee's words, to to include a UFO film in the series. To his astonishment, Sandler said they started interviewing military people and were followed everywhere by a real down to earth and jovial fellow who said he worked for what could be thought as is the internal spies of the Air Force, which Valet identifies that of the Office of Special Investigations. Note that Doty was not at the AFO SI at this time. Valet asked if Sandler thought they were being used and Eminega replied of course, but what are they using us for? He speculates that Nixon might be using disclosure as a desperate way to stay in power in spite of Watergate. Sandler added that Nixon could declare a state of emergency if he could make the public believe that aliens are here. After Valet calls that idea pretty far fetched. Sandler speculates that the US government has decided it was time to get closer to the Soviets and that a claim of UFO UFO news could be a convenient excuse to talk. He elaborates, you know the planet has got to be united against external threat, all that Iron Mountain stuff. Valet closes the entry saying that Immenager believes the Holloman landing actually happened and that he was advised by five sociologists, quote he's hiring, unquote, that the way to avoid panic, in Mnega's words, is to emphasize the aliens resemblance with humans and to minimize our physical differences in the mind of the public. Adding to the intrigue is a segment of Valet's entry, dated June 16, 1974 concerning information given to him over dinner at the Lake Ann restaurant by CIA insider Christopher Kit Green. Kit told me about Sandler. Yes, something's going on at the Pentagon. No, we don't want Valet to warn Hynek. Everything's just fine, he was told when he made inquiries. More puzzle, more obfuscation. Charles Lear is the author of the Flying Saucer investigators and its second edition on Amazon.com thank you Sam.
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