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It's no secret that making a positive first impression matters, especially. Especially in the world of podcasting. And if you're preparing to be a guest on the show and you feel like you've been winging it or you're worried about oversharing, then this is exactly where you need to be. My name is Diane Wilson, and today I am going to tell you how you can nail your next appearance using a framework that I developed called the anchor Framework during my time in pageantry. And this framework is going to not only leave your audience remembering your name, but your voice and the unique value that you bring. I remember my first podcast interview feeling a mixture of both excitement and pressure, because deep down, I questioned whether or not I was the right guest for the show. But within five minutes, something shifted in the conversation. I told my story, and to my surprise, the host did not care that we were from completely different industries. All that mattered was that they wanted to know more. And that is when I realized that your story is the most powerful tool for connection. Because it's the simplest thing that you get to share. And here's the truth. You don't need more time to be memorable. You need more intention. And if you want to make a lasting impression on a podcast or any platform, really, you don't need a media coach or the perfect script. You just need these three things that I'm going to share with you. And the first is to lead with certainty. Certainty is a credibility signal. And we think that people remember what we say, but what they actually remember is how we say it. It's the tone, the energy and the conviction in your voice that makes people lean in. Not because you sound intellectual or perfect, but because you sound anchored. People don't trust clarity because it's perfect. They trust it because it feels grounded, it feels real, and it feels lived in. And that's the reality for many of us. If we feel unsure about ourselves, our audience will be, too. Leading with conviction doesn't mean that you always know the answers and the outcome. It means that you choose to show up as though you belong, even before anyone tells you that you do. And that's the hard part, because Most of us are trained to wait for proof. We're used to grading ourselves on external validation, whether that's feedback from a boss, a win, or a nod of approval from other people. And I used to feel this way when I was working in corporate. My certainty would rise and fall depending upon the feedback that I received from my boss and how a project that I completed was received. But that's a mindset trap, because the real question is, can you still lead with conviction when there is no applause yet certainty is what precedes validation. You don't get to wait for people to clap. To believe in yourself, you have to clap for yourself first. And I had this conversation recently. How uncomfortable it feels to lead with confidence when you don't feel qualified. Especially when you come from a background where perfection is the bar. You have to be a 10 out of 10. But believing you're enough without proof can feel impossible. But belief before evidence is called faith. And faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. And that's the code that we're all trying to crack. How do we walk into a room? Whether it's an interview, a pitch, a stage, and own the moment before anyone tells us that we're allowed to. You do it by choosing to believe that your story is enough, that your preparation counts, and that your voice deserves space before anyone gives you permission to take it. And no, I don't mean that you have to believe that you'll win every single time. What I mean is that you have to believe who you are is worth listening to. So the next time that you walk into a room and you feel unsure, don't wait for the green light. Be the green light and lead with conviction. Which brings me to my second point, and that is to treat it like a performance without performing in pageants. We had five minutes to leave a lasting impression. And trust me, it is just as nerve wracking as it sounds. Because you have five minutes to tell the judges your entire life and experience. Experiences. All in an effort to answer one question. Why should we pick you? And it wasn't about looking pretty or having a big smile. It was about strategy. Because I knew that the clock wasn't my enemy. Lack of clarity was. And the same goes for podcast interviews. Most people treat podcasting like it's a coffee chat. But when you've only got 30 minutes or less to be heard by someone else's audience, you better show up with a plan. And while most of my peers were practicing interview questions, I was preparing for interviews by thinking about what do I want the judges to know about me? And verbally processing it out loud. Now that might sound a little bit woo woo and crazy to some of you listening, but. But hear me out on this one. When you've mastered the art of storytelling, you gain the freedom for how to tell it. You don't need to memorize the script, and you just need to know the message that you're walking in to deliver before the host even hits the record button. And that brings me to my third point. Be relevant, not just relatable. There's a lot of talk about being authentic, and I'm all for that. But here's the thing. Most podcast listeners aren't listening with empathy. And I know that's going to sound very controversial to some of you listening, but they're not asking, what's your story? They're asking, is it worth my time? And that sounds cold, but it's a part of human instincts. Attention has to be earned. I used to think that persuasion was all about being liked. And then I realized that likability without relevance is forgettable. Relatable makes people like you, but relevant makes people remember you. Your job isn't to be liked. It's to be useful and to spark something in someone, to solve a real problem and to say something that sticks. Because authenticity without intention is just self indulgent noise. Before every interview, I ask myself these three questions. What do I want to be known for? What does this audience care about? And what part of my story actually coats them? Not entertains, not impresses, but helps. I want you to ask yourself this question. How could your story help someone in the 30 minutes that they're half listening during a morning commute or cleaning their house? Your answer reveals your positioning and whether or not you're being intentional about it or not. Because here's the number one mistake that I see so many brilliant people make in storytelling. And that is that they act surprised about the one thing that they should know best. Their story. And when a host asks, tell us about yourself or what's your story? I often see guests freeze during this line of questioning. They'll stall and they'll say something like, well, first, thank you for having me. Or they'll downplay their experiences by saying, oh, it's a lot, as if their story is too much for the audience. And I don't say any of this to shame you, because I've been guilty of all of this, too. That's why I know how real it feels and how much it holds you back. But your story isn't too much. It's the exact thing that someone on the other end of the episode needs to hear in order to open up a world of possibilities. And I get it. Telling your story isn't the only thing that matters. You're probably thinking, I know my story matters, but what about the part where I'm supposed to sound like an expert? Because you want to be seen as professional, educated, and an authority in your space. And while all of that is valid, here's what most people miss. Before your audience can see you as an expert, they have to see themselves in you. And the best way to do that is to tell your story. Not for validation, but for connection. Not with the whole world in mind, but with your audience of one in mind. Because once they feel seen, they'll trust what you have to say. Say your credentials are not what differentiates you. What differentiates you is how you talk about your experiences. And that's why I teach the anchor framework to founders. To help them stop fumbling through their story and to start owning it on mic, on stage, and on demand. Because what's the one thing that you should never be unsure about? Your story. You should know it so well that it rolls off your tongue with purpose. And you should say it like you believe it. Because if you don't sound like you believe it, why would anyone else? And if this is hitting home for you and you're thinking, okay, I'm ready to mean what I say and say it like it matters, then if you take nothing else from this talk, I want you to remember that the first five minutes can make a moment. Thirty minutes can make an impression. But intention is what creates impact. So tell your story like you mean it and own it.
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