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Dana K. White (0:00)
Hey y' all. I wanted to be sure you know that my fourth book is now available wherever books are sold. This is the book where I tackle the spiritual side of my desalabification process. My first three books don't have any spiritual content. They're full of the strategies that will take you from overwhelmed in your home to knowing exactly what to do to get your house under control. But this new book, Jesus Doesn't Care about yout Messy House, deals with the shame that so many of us feel over our messiness. My goal is to help you find freedom from that shame so you can move forward. Go to aslobcomes clean.com book book to find links to all my books in all of their formats. Welcome to A Slob Comes Clean, the Podcast I am Dana K. White. I share my personal deslobification process as I figure out ways to keep my own home under control. I share the truth about cleaning and organizing strategies that actually work in real life for real people. People who don't love cleaning and organizing. Thanks for joining me today. This is podcast number 4:58 and I think I'm going to call it Tackling your decluttering challenges, which I know is so generic, but I'm answering some of the questions that were asked over@askdanak white.com and it talks about several decluttering challenges. All right, let's get into it. Dear Dana, thank you so much for your method and everything you do to teach it. It has changed my house and my relationship to shopping too. My whole house is pretty much under control now, except one thing. Clothes. They fit within my container, which at the moment is one clothes rack and two boxes. I have decluttered quite a lot to get it to this, but still, no matter what, they still get out of control all the time. Bad habits, I guess. Any tips what to do when everything is already in its place and fits within the container but still gets out of control? Thanks.
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Dana K. White (2:27)
First of all, congratulations on all of the work that you've done and all the progress that You've made and be so proud of yourself. Right. Like, I think there's something so incredibly valuable about getting to this point where you're like, oh, I can zero in on clothes. Now, I have one big problem where when my house was completely a disaster, like, every single space, every single category of item was out of control. I never felt like I had the bandwidth or even, like. Like, the right. And that's not a correct thing for me to think, but it's the way I felt. Right? Like, I didn't feel like I had the right to, like, zero in on this one specific issue because it's like, yeah, but there's so many other issues. So congratulations on getting to this point where you are right now. Here's what I will say. First of all, you've done the right thing in decluttering down to the realities of the space. Okay. You said that you have gotten it to one clothes rack and two boxes. We go container first. Like the. Embrace the realities of the space. But if a space continually gets out of control, you have more stuff than you can handle. You're over your clutter threshold on clothing. Okay. Couple of things to consider. First of all, I'm not sure what you mean by two boxes. Is it the two boxes that are the things getting out of control more easily, right? Like, the things that consistently get out of control? Is it because the boxes are not functional for you? Meaning they. You have a bunch of stuff in there and you're having to, like, move a bunch of things to get what you need, and then it gets out of control and it stays out of control. Right. It might be that you need to declutter even more because maybe the hanging rod is the thing that's working best for you, and then you get just a smaller box for the socks and undies or things that you don't have to fold. Y' all know you don't have to fold socks and undies, right? You know that. Please. Okay. I'm always amazed when I see people folding underwear. I'm like, that is so fascinating. And I don't get it. Anyway, so that's the solution. Just don't. Don't fold your socks. Underwear. But I would say keep reducing down because, you know you're over your clutter threshold because you know it's consistently getting out of control. So it still is too much for you. You've done the right thing to. To declutter to the container first. Now keep going. The other thing that I would say, because we're talking about clothing is to really focus hard on your laundry routine. Your laundry routine might be a load a day. That's what a lot of people in this world do, and a lot of people in this world say is the only way to do it. And I'm here to say it's not the only way to do it. Right. If that works for you, great. I'm a big fan of a laundry day, meaning one day a week. I'm not going to go into the whole things there because there are entire podcasts that I have recorded and also chapters and books that I have written about what laundry day looks like and how to make it happen. Right. But that really zeroing in on figuring out a laundry routine that works for you naturally results in clothes not getting out of control. It naturally results in that because once you. Once you consistently have your laundry done and it's no longer overwhelming, so you can count on consistently having your laundry done, then you have a very different understanding of how many clothes you need. And the things that you love more than others naturally reveal themselves because you see the things that you are wearing consistently because they're clean. Consistently where. If you didn't have a laundry routine, I'm not saying you didn't, but I'm just saying if this is. If your laundry routine is an issue, that's something to focus on. Because if you didn't have a laundry routine, what happened for me and my family and for so many others is that not having a laundry routine meant we didn't know what clothes we loved the most because it was rare for everything to be clean, and so we just didn't have the choices. But once everything was clean consistently, we were like, oh, well, as long as this T shirt is clean, I am going to wear this T shirt every single time it's clean, right? So once my. My clothes were clean once a week, I wore that T shirt every single week, right? And wearing that T shirt every single week then made me go, you know what? That's a T shirt that I only wear when I absolutely have to. I don't absolutely have to anymore. And so it's easy to let it go, right? I don't absolutely have to because I can count on my clothes being clean. Okay, next question. What do I do when I find things that don't belong in our home? Examples would be something that belongs in our camper, not stored at our home, such as towels or something a family member accidentally left at our home during a visit. I want to remember to bring them where they belong when we Go. But it's too far to take it there now. Okay, so this is a legitimately challenging challenge, right? Like, this is a decluttering challenge, for sure. With the stuff for your camper, what I would say is to. To do it the same way that you do any other thing. And that is, if I needed the stuff to take to the camper, where would I look for it first? So is that a shelf in the garage? Is that. Because this is part of your life, you have this camper, you obviously use it because you've got towels to wash and towels that belong there. So let's legitimize that and normalize that and that say, that stuff deserves space in your house, right? Like, it isn't something where you're going to be able to go take two towels to the camper that is 30 minutes away and then take another two towels. So instead, think of it as if I needed the stuff that we were going to take to the camper, where would I look for it first? And whatever that space is, that space determines the size of container. Like, the shelf that you're going to look on determines the size of container that you can have on that shelf. You don't buy the container according to how much stuff you think you might need to put in it. You. You buy the container according to the space where you would look first for these items that are going to go in this container. And then that container is the place where you put the towels or the, you know, random things that are for the container. Those all for the camper. Those all go in the container. And then when it's time to go to the container, you take that. Oh, my word. Camper and container too close. When it's time to go to the camper, you take that container with you to go do that. It also is a trigger when you overfill that or you fill that container and you don't have any more room for anything else that goes in the camper. That's when you go, you know what? It's time to take a trip out to the camper and put this stuff in there. That becomes the signal, the trigger, that it's time to do that. Sometimes it also might be, oh, I really don't want to go to the camper right now. And there's no room. You know what? Actually, these things I just stuck in here as a. Oh, that might be good for the camper. And in reality, nah, they don't deserve space there. I can actually just get rid of those. Like, these are the things by taking it to there now there being the place where you would look for the stuff that you're going to take to the camper. By taking it there now you face reality. As long as you're just like, oh no, this is hard, I don't know what to do because I can't actually take it to the camper right now. And you just kind of set it somewhere in the house and don't give it an actual home where you would look for things that you're going to take to the camper later. Then that is how you end up with just all this stuff. But when it is a defined limited space, it helps you identify which things are actually need to go there. Same thing with stuff for other people. Having your place in your house for the things that you're going to return. Okay. As close to the spot where you're going to return them as possible. If you can go ahead and take it out to the car, that's the best idea. My mother, my parents live an hour away from me and I designated the top of our freezer in the garage. Now our freezer isn't upright, right? And so it's not like the. You can't open the freezer because of stuff being up there. And I sent my mom a picture years ago and I said, hey, when you come to my house, please check the spot because this is where I'm going to put the things that belong to you that somehow end up at my house, right? So that having a place where you would look first for the stuff that belongs to other people, like giving things homes according to where you would look first for it. All right, to follow the next question, to follow the container method and the progress only method which if you're new here, that is my five step no mess decluttering process. You can get a printable of that process. That's really cute. At a slob comes clean.com 5F I V E get a printable there. We'll send you that. And it's also detailed in great detail with all the instructions and all the mindset shifts you need in decluttering at the speed of life, which is available wherever books are sold. That's one of my books. You can also get it at most libraries. But anyway, so just in case you don't know what she's talking about, it's a my five step method that doesn't make a bigger mess. And also you can work through this method in whatever time you have available. You don't have to set Aside a certain amount of time. Okay, so to follow the container method, container concept, and the progress only progress method, how do we fill a tub or shelf with favorites till it's full without dumping everything on the floor first? Okay, so I'm going to go at this from two different things. Let's say that the shelf itself, you've removed the things that don't need to be there, and what's left is too much. And you're trying to embrace the reality of the size of that space. That's the container concept. Remove your least favorites until it all fits functionally in that space. Okay, so instead of pulling everything out and then putting your favorites back, like if you're in a situation where you have an empty shelf and a bunch of stuff, put your favorite things on first, and when it's full, it's full. Right? Like, that's the best, easiest way to do it. But because we don't want to put ourselves in a situation where we can't stop at any time, pulling everything off of the shelf is not part of the process. So if you're in this situation where you have a full shelf of stuff, that all does belong there, and yet there's just not enough room. Pull out the least favorites until it fits functionally on that space. I said I was going to come at that from two angles. I forget what the other angle was. Oh, well. Okay. How do you know? I love this question. How do you know when you've gone too far? How do you know when it's time to re clutter? It's never time to read a letter. There. There are things I love to do in this space, like take notes, make lists, collect my thoughts, and imagine. But I have put all my pads of paper and favorite pens away. I hide all evidence of my creative writing when people come over and lose track of it completely. Lately, I have stopped writing almost completely because it is too much of an effort to go get what I need. Have I gone too far? Is it time to reclutter? Okay, couple things here. Clutter is anything that consistently gets out of control. That's my definition. I get to make up definitions because I write books about clutter, right? So, no, it's not time to re clutter. But that doesn't mean that you can't have the things that you need to have. Right? As long as it can stay under control, it's not clutter. Therefore, if you have gotten rid of all this stuff and you have this empty, you know, space, you know, is there room for a bin or some kind of a box where this stuff could live so that the box is there to remind you, oh, that's right, I like to write or whatever. And I, I would say I, I would honestly tell you, just leave those things out. Like, it's fine as long as it's not a pile. As long as it's functional and you can see them and you can access them. Leave them out because it's important to you. The only reason I'm saying put it in some kind of a bin is because you specifically said, I hide all evidence of my creative writing when people come over. And as a writer, I understand that, right? Like, I understand that there's part of me that's like, no, don't hide it, but do whatever you need to do to make this work. Okay? Decluttering is for the purpose of you being able to function well in your home as you, as the person who likes to do creative writing. If you enjoy creative writing and that is part of your identity, then it deserves space in your home. Okay? So that is the goal. Function is the goal. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. You've probably noticed how clutter builds up over time. We avoid dealing with it, much like we sometimes avoid dealing with our mental health. A recent survey showed that many hesitate to seek help and support because of fear of judgment. But this doesn't just affect them, it impacts families, co workers, entire communities. The world will be a better place when people are healthy and happy. So I personally have really benefited from using better help to work with a therapist. It's truly helpful to have a non judgmental, purposefully helpful professional who helps me work through the challenges I'm facing. BetterHelp has over 10 years of experience and thousands of licensed therapists helping people with a wide range of issues. Sessions are fully online, making therapy affordable and convenient. 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