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Nava Kavilan
Lemonade.
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Adam Pally
I have this great teacher named Mr. Daly who's still there. And I was shooting a movie last week in New Jersey actually, and the script supervisor came over to me and she was like, you know, hello, my name is Alyssa. I went to Livingston High School and was in the TV program. And I, um. Someone said that you were. Went to Livingston High School. And I was like, wait a minute. Mr. Daly doesn't talk about me. She was like, no. Someone on the cruise said that you went to Livingston. I was like, wait. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. He doesn't tell everyone that I was a Student. Welcome to PodCrushed. We're your hosts. I'm Penn.
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Nava Kavilan
I'm Nava.
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Sophie Ansari
And I'm Sophie.
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Adam Pally
And I think we could have been.
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Sophie Ansari
Your middle school besties scheming on how to get our happy endings. Hello, podcrushers. Welcome back.
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Nava Kavilan
Sophie, you keep trying to make podcrushers happen. We are Crushies. It's been determined.
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Sophie Ansari
It's true. It's like a nervous tic or something. Because I don't like podcrushers. And that's always been. The thing is, I don't like podcrushers, and I have been adamantly against it. So I don't know why I keep saying it. It does roll off the tongue. So funny.
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Nava Kavilan
Yeah. Welcome, Crushies. Today is super exciting. It's October 15th. It is the day after our book launch. Woo. And we are so excited. We hope that you have ordered it or are about to order it. And we're so proud. If you're in the U.S. this is the book that's waiting for you.
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Adam Pally
Yes.
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Sophie Ansari
I just was able to casually grab it off my bookshelf.
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Nava Kavilan
No problem. No big deal. And if you're in the uk, it's very similar, but a little bit bigger.
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Sophie Ansari
So you know what they say, Everything's bigger in England.
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Nava Kavilan
Yeah, bigger and better. That's a famous expression. Everything's bigger and better in London.
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Sophie Ansari
No, we're so excited for you guys to read it. Excited. A little bit nervous. We spilled a lot of our guts into this book, and so it's a little bit vulnerable for us. We hope you love it.
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Nava Kavilan
Yeah. And if you listen to the audiobook version, I think. I mean, obviously it's like an incredibly capitalistic thing to say that you should get both versions. Don't get both versions. If you can't afford them. If you can't afford them. They are totally different experiences, in my opinion. Certainly as like a writer versus a narrator. It was a really different Experience the audiobook version. There's definitely one essay where I was, like, full, like, full on, hyperventilating, crying. It was incredibly vulnerable. So I'm really nervous for people to hear that one. I definitely didn't think we were gonna use that take, and that's the take we use. So I'm really scared for that to be out in the world, but also, like, how interesting that people are gonna be in on that with me.
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Sophie Ansari
No spoilers, but it was the essay where Inava talked about how much she loved me and Pen.
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Nava Kavilan
Yeah, that's the one I was just.
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Adam Pally
Like, I love much.
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Nava Kavilan
Yeah. Speaking of hyperventilating, today we have the incredible comedian Adam Pali. You know him, you love him. Sophie, tell us a little bit about Adam.
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Sophie Ansari
Adam Pally was in Happy Endings. He was in Mindy Project. So many iconic things, honestly. He produced and starred in the show Mr. Throwback with Steph Curry and Ego Wodom, who we also had on the show and loved. And then most recently, he has a new podcast called Staying Alive. It's a health and wellness podcast, but, like, with a twist. She has a new special out called An Intimate Evening with Adam Pali, which you definitely have to check out.
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Nava Kavilan
Adam brings all the laughs. You're not going to want to miss it today. Stick around.
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Sophie Ansari
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Adam Pally
And we have a new podcast. It's called don't listen to us. Many of you have asked for our advice. Tell me what is wrong with you people. Don't listen to us. Our take it or leave it advice show is out every Wednesday, premiering October 15th. A Lemonada Media original.
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Sophie Ansari
We would love to know, if you could tell us just about 12 year old Adam, what was your school life like, your home life, your inner life?
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Adam Pally
I had moved, moved around a lot as a kid. My father and mother were in a band when I was young called Pally and Pal that played like the Catskills.
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Nava Kavilan
And.
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Adam Pally
My father was an actor and my mother was a singer. And they, they really wanted to be, you know, stars. And then they decided they didn't anymore. And my father went back to medical school when I was 8 years old. So we moved from New York City to Chicago, Illinois, which is why my accent is really messed up. And then around 11, we moved back after he was done with medical school to New Jersey. And I was the new kid in public school at 12 years old at a school called Heritage Middle School. And I didn't have many friends. I was punk. I thought I was cooler than everybody because I was from two cities and now I was in the suburbs. So, yeah, I had a lot to learn. I, I, you know, I had like long hair parted in the middle and I played guitar and, you know, I, I had a great collection of band T shir shirts that I still have. So I, I hope that's painting a good enough picture of 12 year old Adam.
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Nava Kavilan
Did your parents ever bring you on the stage when, when Pally and Pals was.
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Adam Pally
No, no, I would watch, I would watch from the, the wings sometimes, but a lot of times it was late. They would open for whatever the act was at the hotel they were playing. But a lot of times that meant that they would be playing in the lobby during the day and stuff to make money. So it it was kind of like an all encompassing. It wasn't really like, you know, the glitz and glamour of Hollywood. It was the hard road of the Catskills.
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Sophie Ansari
Yeah. I have a friend who is a musician and his father was a musician and then ended up becoming a corporate lawyer to support his family. And I think I was talking to my friend Ben, who said he feels like his life has been informed in a lot of ways by his father's choices and maybe his choice to leave music and how he felt about that and how that was passed down to him. Just the feelings of like, regret and such. I'm curious if you feel like any of your choices have been informed by your parents, like, winding career path.
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Adam Pally
Definitely. I mean, you know, like, Hollywood was always something that like loomed in my house, you know, And I think my parents felt like connected to it in a way, even though they weren't, weren't, you know, So I, I think naturally as a kid, you look for ways to, to get your parents attention, you know, And I found early on that making people laugh was a way that I could kind of. That was kind of my skill. And it was unrefined at first and it was. Came out of a deep need to be seen, you know, and like to have something special about me. But I think that that came from also seeing that like, my parents could play piano and they could sing and. And like, it didn't seem so foreign to have something special about yourself. It was like attainable. You just had to find it. But like my grandmother would will say that I was sent from hell to finish the job.
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Sophie Ansari
That's so good.
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Adam Pally
So I kind of feel it's both of those things together.
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Nava Kavilan
What a mission. That makes me curious when your sense of humor was like, burgeoning. I'm curious about two things. Were there early comedic influences, like comedians that you were connecting with? And I'm also curious about if you have a memory of a moment where you had a joke that you're really proud of or where you made your classmates laugh if anything stands out.
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Adam Pally
No, I don't. You know, I. I was very lucky in my high school and I played sports early on. And then when I realized that I didn't like, I didn't like playing sports that competitively. I was lucky enough that my school had this television studio and I in Livingston, New Jersey, and I would spend a lot of time learning how to edit, learning how to take my ideas and like make them put them on camera. Especially like man on the street stuff, which I still Sometimes do like that. I was doing that in high school, like, walking around with a camera crew and interviewing people and making it funny and cutting it together and stuff. And. And then they started playing those on the morning announcements. And by my junior year, I had. They had given me every Friday to, like, make my own show. It was, like, my passion in a lot of ways and probably got me into college. But I think that was the first time I was like, you know, being recognized at the local bagel shop because a parent was like, I saw your skit on the public access. And I was like, oh, wow. Like. Like, this is how it works.
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Sophie Ansari
That is so cool.
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Adam Pally
You know, and then you get a little bit of that, and you're like, well, maybe this is what I'm gonna do. I have this great teacher named Mr. Daly who's still there, and I was shooting a movie last week in New Jersey, actually, and the script supervisor came over to me, and she was like, you know, hello, my name is Alyssa. I went to Livingston High School and was in the TV program, and someone said that you were. Went to Livingston High School. And I was like, wait a minute. Mr. Daly doesn't talk about me. She was like, no. Someone on the cruise said that you went to Livingston. I was like, wait. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. He doesn't tell everyone that I was a student. She was like, no, he didn't even mention it.
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Nava Kavilan
I was like, God, it's actually surprising.
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Adam Pally
So surprising. And, like, my high school has, like, a good amount of celebrities from it, and they don't want anything to do with me.
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Sophie Ansari
Do they want anything to do with the other celebrities, or is this across the board?
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Adam Pally
Oh, no. Yes. They're always claiming Chelsea Handler and Jason Alexander and Chris Christie. They'd rather be involved with Chris Christie than me.
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Nava Kavilan
I.
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Adam Pally
I don't know what I did, but, like, Livingston lays no claim to me.
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Sophie Ansari
That is so funny. One of the things that we ask our guests who come on the show is about, you know, those. Those times of heartbreak, first crushes. What was going on for you around 12 or whenever your first feelings of love were?
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Adam Pally
Yeah, 12. 12 is an interesting time. You know, I've met my wife when I was a kid, when I met her when I was 16. So this was before then, and I was a new kid in town, and I was a bit. You know, I got a lot of attention coming in. Young, big head of hair, blue eyes, you know, guitar. I was like a, you know, mysterious kind of, you know. So I. Yeah, I did have. I had A few girlfriends like you do, you know, between at that age. I actually one of them, two of them, oddly, are parents, co parents of my youngest son at the same school in New York City. My youngest son goes to school in New York City and two of his friends are kids of two of my ex girlfriends from Hayden, from my hometown.
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Sophie Ansari
It was, yeah, it was taking me a long time to get there. I was like, are you divorced?
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Adam Pally
I didn't, no, I'm not divorced. In fact, it's so funny. People are like, you have three kids, same mom. I'm like, yeah, yeah.
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Nava Kavilan
I don't know.
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Sophie Ansari
I said, I think I mentioned to someone that I wanted three kids and they're like, are you Mormon?
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Adam Pally
Yeah. People often assume I'm religious, but I'm actually just careless. My parents are high school sweethearts. Were high school sweethearts and they had a really great marriage. They, you know, were always singing and, and like, the house was really quite joyful. Even though we didn't have a lot of money and we were in debt and we were moving around all the time and driving in a Dodge Aries from New York to Chicago. It was like a really fun house. And my sisters agree and my wife, her parents are high school sweethearts.
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Sophie Ansari
Wow.
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Adam Pally
And similarly, it was like quite a joyful house. And then I think on my side, at least what I've come to in therapy, on my side, when you move around a lot as a kid and, and I, I, I don't have, one of the things that I don't have in my life is like a best friend, a family that I grew up with next to me. I, I never had a lot of like, you know, close, close relationships like that because we're always moving and you were always, you'd make a friend, then you'd move to another town and you make a friend, you move to another town. So I think when I met my wife, who was the coolest person I had ever met, and not just, you know, beautiful and funny and punk, but she's, she's so cool and, and still like so much cooler than me. And like, I learned so much from her all the time, every day. And so I think it was just like, once I, I was lucky enough to meet her, even though we were young, I was like, oh, this is something I can't let go of. Like, I need. I like, you know, I kind of found something here and there, there have been a lot of permeations of it, you know, on and off and on and off and, and on and off. And. And then, you know, on and. And. But through all the times we were off, I think both of us were like, just didn't, you know, knew that something was there.
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Sophie Ansari
You know, I had read that your parents were high school sweethearts as well. I didn't know that your wife's parents were also high school sweethearts, which is an interesting fact because it's supposedly pretty rare. Like, only 2% is the. Is the statistic that I found online. 2% of marriages come from high school sweethearts. And I'm curious if there's anything you remember about the early days of your relationship that has, like, made it into these later years.
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Adam Pally
Oh, yeah, it all does. It all does. I mean, that's one of the. The joys of. Of being with someone since you were a kid is that like, you know them. And I've known many different Daniellas, you know, not just the one I married, but. But still, she's still like the coolest person I know. And that dynamic doesn't change between the two of us, you know, and so I think that. That there's something really special and nice about that.
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Sophie Ansari
That, like, that's very sweet.
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Adam Pally
You know, I'm always just like, oh, where. Where'd you come up with that? Or know that? Or how do you know that? Or how did you put. Put that together? You know, it's like. And you.
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Nava Kavilan
You.
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Adam Pally
I think that's what, like, I guess love is when you're like, I need that. That thought in my mind all the time, and if I don't have it, then I'm not whole.
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Nava Kavilan
This is really sweet, really inspiring. Don't go anywhere.
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Sophie Ansari
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Nava Kavilan
Okay, walk us through. Is it true that you went to UCB?
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Adam Pally
Yes, I got there in 2001.
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Nava Kavilan
So can you kind of walk us through that process of like being there and then getting cast on Happy Endings?
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Adam Pally
I wish it was a straight line, you know, I, I think it often is not. I, I moved to New York in, in back to New York in 2000. I went to school at University of Arizona for a couple years and really had a great time there and loved my time and then was like I should do something. And so I took some of my old sketches and movies and made this tape and got into the actor studio and the new school and when I got there I started UCB at night and was just like interning and you know, picking up cigarettes and taking any class I could. But I was really lucky because at the time it was really small and, and the people that you had access to that, that I still have relationships with today, who taught me and are mentors and friends. You know, it's like, it's wild. But there was just a small, really impressive amalgamation of people there that I was able to like, you know, click in with and as a polar says you like find your, your tribe and then that it all just like starts to affect you and you start to like write and teach and, and do bits and I was lucky enough to get a couple commercials and then book a couple movies, small parts. And then this role came along, and I. And I read for it, and just my friend Casey Wilson, who I had made from UCB New York, was also reading for it. And then we got cast, and we did it together, and it just was, you know, from there. I wish it was more. Someone saw me on the street, was like, you, you're the one. But it was just a lot of years of. Of doing shows and grinding, grinding and grinding and grinding and not really having. I think the one thing that I did would. That I would look back on and say that was probably the right way to look at it was I never had a goal. I never, like, was like, okay, I'll get on SNL and then I'll write for Conan, and I'll. You know, I just was like, as long as I'm. As long as I'm doing comedy, then something will happen. And that's kind of how I still feel about it, is like, as long as I'm out here doing my part, then something will happen.
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Sophie Ansari
Yeah. Then you were on the Mindy Project. I love the Mindy Project. I still quote, like, bits from it. Specifically, there's this one where, like, a recurring bit where Mindy would refer to herself as just like a little bird. Like a frail little bird.
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Adam Pally
Very small. Yeah, dainty.
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Sophie Ansari
I do that all the time. I love it. But I would love if you could tell us just a little bit about working on that set, if there's any, like, stories that stand out to you.
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Adam Pally
Oh, I mean, that was, like, grad school. Working at. With Mindy, who was like, grad school was the first time. I think that's where I realized, like, oh, I want to. I want to be in charge. I don't just want to be a passenger on this, because I got to watch her every day. She's just amazing. She's. She's everything all at once. You know, she's hilarious and can sit down and have a conversation and make you laugh. And at the same time, she's in her head writing four bits and writing a script and acting and directing. And I was like, I didn't know you could do that. You know, I thought you just. I thought you just got put somewhere and were. You know, and then I watched her just be in total command of everything. And that show was her voice completely. And it was so good. And, like, the. The number one thing I took from that is just like, oh, you. It's more than just about flowing and. And Being there. If you want to make something, then you have to make it. And Mindy makes stuff. You know, I, I, I'm still inspired. I, I love any chance I get to be around Mindy. I, I jump at it.
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Nava Kavilan
And you guys have amazing chemistry, so we'd love to see more of you together.
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Adam Pally
Yeah, I'd love to see more. I, I just talked to her the other day. She's, she doesn't need to act anymore. She's so, she's got like 15 shows. She doesn't need to slum it with me.
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Sophie Ansari
Yeah, so funny.
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Nava Kavilan
Mr. Throwback, it seems like you are kind of putting that you are kind of behind the scenes now, as well as in front of the camera. And Mr. Throwback, you and Ego have such, like, fun, frenemy chemistry. I'm curious if you can tell us a little bit about how you, how you're building that, how you, how you've sort of been doing both, both roles.
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Adam Pally
Well, I got to do it. I've done it a couple times now on a couple shows like Champagne Ill and the President show and Mr. Throwback and a show called Indebted. Like, but it's, it's nice to be in charge of what you say in a way, and, and your taste and your, your vibe is like, put in onto the screen. I think, like, that's something that you don't always get as an actor. So I really like that. And then with Eggo, you know, some people you just click in. And that role originally was written for a man. And, but in Steph, Stephen Curry's real life, the person that runs his day to day is this incredible woman named Tiffany. And we, we were seeing every actor in Hollywood and they were great. They were, I mean, everyone was killing it, but there was something missing when it was two men, like, arguing over Stefan's attention. There was something very, like, immature about it. And we, we went to Eggo. We flew to New York. We, we went to 30 Rock. We set up a camera in her dressing room, and Eggo and I just started improvising and one of the creators, Matthew Litman, was there, and the, the tape was so he, There was so much laughter from the back of the room on the tape because we were just, like, going at each other. And I, like, I remember I sat down and she immediately was just like, why is your beard so shitty? And I was like, what? She's like, it's like all patches. Like, you can't grow a normal beard. I was like, I grow a normal beard. She's like, that's all, like, normal to me. And it was just like we were in it, you know, and it just felt like we had been doing it for our whole lives. And. Yeah. That it was a special time. And I. And again, like, what an amazing friend too to have that now I can't get rid of.
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Sophie Ansari
The two of you are so fun to watch together.
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Adam Pally
You should see us eat.
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Sophie Ansari
I really love to see.
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Adam Pally
Yeah, it's a murder scene.
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Sophie Ansari
I can imagine. I heard you say, actually on her podcast, because we had her on, which is when I first listened to your episode on her podcast. Thanks, dad. Or thanks, dad.
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Nava Kavilan
Yeah.
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Sophie Ansari
And you said that your favorite, like, the thing you look forward to most is dinner.
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Nava Kavilan
Yeah.
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Adam Pally
That's all that's worth living for.
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Sophie Ansari
Thing.
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Adam Pally
I wake up with dinner on my mind.
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Nava Kavilan
Honestly, I'm with you.
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Adam Pally
Like, yeah, yeah. What else is there in life is just dinner.
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Sophie Ansari
Honestly.
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Adam Pally
Yeah.
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Sophie Ansari
So good.
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Adam Pally
I honestly, I could do two dinners instead of a dessert, but I hear you.
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Sophie Ansari
Something that's always happening to me, which I think is a universal experience, is like, the following day after a meal, regretting what I didn't eat from that meal. You know, like. Like when I'm hungry again, I'm like, I should have stuffed myself.
- [31:04]
Nava Kavilan
Like, I should have.
- [31:05]
Adam Pally
There's a word for that.
- [31:05]
Nava Kavilan
What is it?
- [31:06]
Adam Pally
Hungxiety.
- [31:08]
Sophie Ansari
That's me. I have that. Adam, you have done a couple projects with John, who is your best friend.
- [31:15]
Adam Pally
Gabris.
- [31:16]
Nava Kavilan
Yes.
- [31:16]
Adam Pally
John Gabris.
- [31:17]
Sophie Ansari
Yeah.
- [31:18]
Adam Pally
It feels weird to be this old and have, like, a best friend, but. Yes.
- [31:21]
Sophie Ansari
No, it's so sweet. Yeah, he's my best friend. I think that working with your best friend, in my mind, it's like the dream. But then also, I can imagine that it has. You know, there's some things to negotiate when you have such a close friendship. Is that true, or do you feel like it's just been smooth sailing?
- [31:39]
Adam Pally
No, I mean, it's. It's smooth sailing for sure. I mean, there's always stuff that you have to, like, navigate when you're working with friends. Like, even if it's just like, oh, you're late, you know, like, well, normally you'd be like, yeah, who cares? You know? Now you're like, oh, I'm making John late, you know, so. But that can be good, too. And I think for us, it's just we've. We.
- [32:07]
Nava Kavilan
We.
- [32:07]
Adam Pally
We have such a good way with each other about each other's, like. It's. It's so accepting of how bullshitty we both are that like, you're. I think it makes for good team. A good team.
- [32:21]
Nava Kavilan
Well, speaking of John, you guys have a podcast together called Staying Alive, and I feel like. I feel like you guys are actually performing a really valuable public service with the show, because I imagine that. So the show.
- [32:36]
Adam Pally
We're pro vaccine.
- [32:38]
Nava Kavilan
Yeah.
- [32:38]
Adam Pally
Because we're the only white men on the Internet that are pro vaccine.
- [32:42]
Nava Kavilan
I also feel like there's an entire demo. Who would be turned off by health and wellness. Like, if you just said, like, this is a health and wellness podcast, they would not tune in. But because it's you and John, they would. And I'm curious what was your motivation in starting the podcast? And I'm also curious if there's ever been a guest who's given a piece of advice that you've been like, fuck you. Never. I will never implement that advice.
- [33:05]
Adam Pally
There's never been a. I'll answer the last one first. There's never been a guess where we've been. Like, you not gonna take that advice. There, there. There. There is a large portion of the health and wellness industry that is like, slightly snake oil salesman, where you're like, people are like, pay 19.99 for me to tell you to get eight hours of sleep, you know, which is like, oh, okay. Like, sometimes a guest will say that to me, and I'm like, oh, okay, fuck you. Like, I have three kids. I'm not getting eight hours of sleep. Like, I haven't slept for eight hours in 13 years. But, you know, part of why John and I did it, to answer your first part, is because we. We love dinner. Like, we said, we like to party. We like a drink, we like a smoke. We like to alter reality. We like to. To experience. We like to say yes to things, you know, and that can shorten your. Your life. And so we were like, well, maybe let's take some of that energy and not just put it all into shortening it, but also to elongating it, since we are so open to everything. And, you know, along with that does come some stuff that doesn't work. But, you know, the fun of it is that John and I do it together. And if it doesn't work, it's. It's kind of fine because we weren't doing anything anyway.
- [34:21]
Nava Kavilan
The podcast is really. Is really funny. I'm curious, who's been your favorite guest so far?
- [34:28]
Adam Pally
My dad has been my favorite guest, and my dad has been my least favorite guest.
- [34:33]
Nava Kavilan
How's.
- [34:33]
Adam Pally
Why he's so difficult? He's so difficult. He's so difficult. He rescheduled us, like, 15 times. We had to have his water and his green juice, and he only wanted to talk about Hollywood. He's. He's a diva. He's a diva.
- [34:50]
Nava Kavilan
So invited him on. He didn't know he was going to talk about wellness, even though he's a judge.
- [34:53]
Adam Pally
No, he. He knew what he. We was there for. He just wanted. He had an agenda, you know, which is quite my dad and. But he's also my favorite guest because he. He is. To me, he is like a superhero to me and what he does. And I just. Sometimes when I see him in action stuff, I'm just like, I completely floored.
- [35:16]
Sophie Ansari
It is amazing to me how many different types of intelligence there are. And I'm constantly saying to my husband, like, thank God someone wants to do that. Like, I was talking to someone the other day who designs, like, chips, microchips, and I was like, thank God you want to do that. I could never do that, and I don't want to do that. But I'm so glad that you exist. Has the exact.
- [35:36]
Adam Pally
Yeah, I often think about that, like, who would want to do this? Thank God they're there.
- [35:40]
Nava Kavilan
Yeah.
- [35:42]
Sophie Ansari
Yeah. I heard you say on the episode with your dad before he came on that one of the things he's always doing is, like, trying to go up to celebrities and talk to them. Like, that's his favorite thing and how embarrassed you are are by it. And I was curious if you could tell us, like, who were you most embarrassed for him to go up to?
- [36:01]
Adam Pally
Yeah, there's been so many.
- [36:03]
Sophie Ansari
Really? Dads.
- [36:06]
Adam Pally
Yeah, my dad, you know, he's a. He. He considers himself a showbiz dad, like, a show dad. Even though his child is 43, which is like, like I.
- [36:16]
Sophie Ansari
The job.
- [36:16]
Adam Pally
I tell him, like, you're not exactly, like, dropping off the Culkins at work. You know, you're, like, roaming around the set looking for snacks. But I don't know. He used to. When I was on Broadway, he would come straight from his work and sit in my dressing room while I was on stage and wait for the. Whoever the celebrity was in the audience. Because sometimes they. If there's a celebrity, they'll come by. And so he would oftentimes introduce me to the celebrity in the audience, which was always jarring. Like, when you'd come off stage and you'd see your dad, and he'd be like, adam, I want you to meet Liev Schreiber. And you'd be like, why are you talking Liam Shriver like, that was bad. One time, we were hiking. He was at my house in Los Angeles, and we were hiking through Fryman Canyon, and he saw them filming. This is a long time ago. They saw them filming the Hills.
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Nava Kavilan
No.
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Adam Pally
You remember that show with Heidi Montag, I believe.
- [37:19]
Nava Kavilan
Yeah. Yeah.
- [37:21]
Adam Pally
And that's a reality show, so that's, like, pretty fairly. You know, it's a set. Walked right onto the set, went right up on camera while they were filming.
- [37:33]
Sophie Ansari
No.
- [37:33]
Adam Pally
Yeah. And said, how beautiful is today?
- [37:38]
Sophie Ansari
He's like, maybe I'll get some air time.
- [37:40]
Adam Pally
And they. They. Security, like, rushed him off the set. I was like, what are you doing? What are you doing?
- [37:46]
Sophie Ansari
That is amazing.
- [37:48]
Adam Pally
Yeah, he's. He's a liability. You gotta be careful with him. Like, I just did a movie. I just wrapped a movie with Philippa sue from Hamilton. She's so great. And in the middle of the movie, I got a text from her while we're filming, and it's a picture of her with my dad. And I was like, how? What? What? And she was like, I was walking in Central park, and I saw this guy, and he looked at me, and he went like this.
- [38:18]
Sophie Ansari
I love him. I love your dad.
- [38:20]
Adam Pally
And I was like. And this. I called my dad. I was like, dad, what. Why did you go up to Philippa Sioux? And he's like. I felt like I knew her because you're working with her.
- [38:27]
Nava Kavilan
That's so sweet.
- [38:28]
Adam Pally
I was like, oh, gosh, Dr. Pali. Dr. Pally.
- [38:32]
Sophie Ansari
You're sighing and you're going like, ugh, dad, you're rolling your eyes, but is there a part of you? There has to be a part of you that's like. Like. That feels good that he's so.
- [38:39]
Adam Pally
Oh, yeah. No, I think it's the only way. I think I'm very lucky to have a dad that's interested. You know, I think. I think it's probably better for my psyche that he is.
- [38:53]
Nava Kavilan
Yeah.
- [38:54]
Sophie Ansari
That's so sweet.
- [38:54]
Nava Kavilan
He's a total non sequitur. But do you remember the names of any of the Pally and Pal songs? No. I'm just so curious about your dad.
- [39:00]
Adam Pally
Well, they're mostly covers, so, like, the. The one I remember the most was. Was they would take this, like, banter break where my dad would be, like, playing, and my mom would, like, drape over the piano and, like, a silky red dress or something. And then she would be like, wow. My dad would be like, do you know what the most important thing in the world is, Karen? She would be like, what's that Stephen and he would be like, friends. And she would be like, oh, you gotta have friends. And then they'd sing, you gotta have friends.
- [39:30]
Sophie Ansari
Aw, cute.
- [39:32]
Adam Pally
I remember that quite a lot.
- [39:35]
Nava Kavilan
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Nava Kavilan
Okay, let's talk about your new special, an Intimate Evening with Adam Pally. In the trailer you say, I see a lot of you wondering, is this the show? And then you go, yeah, this is the show. You've got a dj, you're telling jokes. How did you come up with this format that seems to be kind of like uniquely your own?
- [44:55]
Adam Pally
I don't know if there's a format.
- [44:58]
Sophie Ansari
It's sort of formatless. That's its format.
- [45:00]
Adam Pally
Formatless. I would say. Yeah, I, I, I started doing like some, some, I wouldn't even call it stand up because I feel like that's not nice. Just real stand up comedians, you know. And like Chris Rock told me that it takes 10 years to be good enough to do a special, and it took me two. So I just don't. Kind of easy. But I, yeah, I just started wanting to make something. I really wanted to make a movie. I knew I wanted to make a movie and I knew I wanted it to be about me trying to make a comedy show. And so the show, the movie is the show and the show is the movie, and it just kind of works. It's got a lot of, it feels a lot like the Muppet Show. It's like, will it, will it actually happen? And there's guests and music and my dad. It's fun.
- [46:05]
Sophie Ansari
Sweet.
- [46:06]
Nava Kavilan
For a ride.
- [46:07]
Adam Pally
Well, we can't. I hope so. I hope, I hope so. I mean, people are gonna hate it. I know that. People are going to. Comedians are going to hate. Hate it. If comedians hate.
- [46:18]
Sophie Ansari
No.
- [46:18]
Adam Pally
Oh, yeah. Well, comedians hate when they see a comedian with a guitar. Wait till they see a comedian with a guitar. No jokes in an HBO special. Yeah. Yeah. You're gonna hate it.
- [46:29]
Sophie Ansari
Can't wait to watch it.
- [46:31]
Adam Pally
Oh, thank you.
- [46:32]
Nava Kavilan
Excited. Well, that'll be out October 17th, I'm sure. I'll be tuning in.
- [46:36]
Adam Pally
Oh, that's nice. I hope so. I don't know how that goes for specials like, I don't know how they measure that.
- [46:41]
Nava Kavilan
You'll find out.
- [46:43]
Adam Pally
Hashtags.
- [46:43]
Sophie Ansari
Yeah.
- [46:45]
Nava Kavilan
Yeah. Well, Adam, we have a final question that we ask every guest, which is if you could go back to your 12 year old self, would you, what would you say or what would you do?
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Adam Pally
I could go back to him. Oh, if I go back to my 12 year old self, I would, I would just say, you just keep doing what you're doing, kid. You got it. I, I'm very lucky in that way. You know, I would run home from school and like play guitar, electric guitar in my mirror. You know, and, like. And I didn't have any friends again. I was a new kid and, like, didn't have a band to play without. I just so badly wanted to be in front of people and. And to be seen. And I would say to that 12 year old, like, don't worry, they'll see you.
- [47:32]
Sophie Ansari
Sweet. That also inspired a new question for me to ask guests, like, what would you do in the mirror? Because when you said that, I was like, oh, I used to cry in front of the mirror. Like, I wanted to see what I looked like. You know, I'd be crying, I'd be sad about something, but also, like, intrigued.
- [47:47]
Adam Pally
Right. Well, that would look like you could roll tears like that. Nice. Good for you.
- [47:52]
Sophie Ansari
No, like, if I was crying, I'd.
- [47:54]
Nava Kavilan
Run to the mirror.
- [47:55]
Sophie Ansari
What does this look like?
- [47:57]
Adam Pally
Ye.
- [47:58]
Sophie Ansari
It just makes me so curious. Like, you played electric guitar. That also makes me laugh.
- [48:01]
Adam Pally
Yeah. And sometimes I find myself still doing it, you know, like, not in the mirror anymore because, like, I kind of know what that looks like. But I do find myself in the same place I was 30 years ago, you know, in a room, playing guitar by myself, imagining something.
- [48:15]
Sophie Ansari
So sweet. Oh, Adam, this was a pleasure. Thank you so much for coming on.
- [48:19]
Adam Pally
Thank you so much for having me. I really. I'm sorry I was a little late, but I really thank you for having me. And tell this. This. This Pen guy. Whatever.
- [48:29]
Sophie Ansari
Yeah, thanks for not knowing Penn. We needed someone.
- [48:32]
Adam Pally
Truly. Every time I was like, I'm doing this podcast, they're like, oh, that guy's on you. And it would turn into like a Abbott and Costello bit, because I would be, like, who? And they'd be like, the guy, Penn. I'd be like, who's that? And they'd be like, the guy on you. And I'd be like, who's on me? And they're like, no, on you. And I'd be like, who? And they're like, penny. And I'd be like, who's Penn?
- [48:54]
Nava Kavilan
You can catch an intimate evening with Adam Pally on HBO, out October 17, and you can follow Adam online at. Adam Pally.
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Sophie Ansari
Podcrust is hosted by Penn Badgley, Nava Kavilan, and Sophie Ansari. Our senior producer is David Ansari, and our editing is done by Clips agency. If you haven't subscribed to Laminada Premium yet, now's the perfect time because. Because guess what? You can listen completely ad free, plus you'll unlock exclusive bonus content like the time we talked to Luca Bravo about the profound effect that the film into the Wild had on him. The conversation was so moving and you are not going to hear it anywhere else. Just tap the subscribe button on Apple Podcasts or head to lemonadapremium.com to subscribe on any other app. That's lemonadapremium.com. don't miss out. And as always, you can listen to podcrust ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership. Okay, that's all.
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Nava Kavilan
Bye.
- [49:51]
Sophie Ansari
I don't know if you saw. There was one very small email where we mentioned that Pen wouldn't be here.
- [49:58]
Adam Pally
I did see that.
- [49:59]
Sophie Ansari
Okay. Okay, good.
- [49:59]
Nava Kavilan
I did see that. I hope he knows. What if he didn't catch that?
- [50:04]
Adam Pally
I don't know who Penn is.
- [50:06]
Sophie Ansari
Okay, perfect.
- [50:10]
Nava Kavilan
Every caregiving journey is unique. But the isolation, guilt and exhaustion we all feel, that's universal.
- [50:18]
Sophie Ansari
It's reality. It's life. You know, I wish it could all be happy and joyous, but sometimes it's full of rage. And that is what it is.
- [50:26]
Nava Kavilan
That's why this show exists, to be a safe place for caregivers to land. Listen to Squeezed Wherever you get your podcasts.