Political Beats Episode 146: Jeff Pojanowski Explores Turnpike Troubadours

Release Date: June 3, 2025
Hosts: Scott Bertram and Jeff Blehar
Guest: Jeff Pojanowski, Professor at Notre Dame Law School

Introduction

In Episode 146 of Political Beats, hosts Scott Bertram and Jeff Blehar welcome back Jeff Pojanowski, a professor from Notre Dame Law School, to delve into his passion for the Oklahoma-based country band, Turnpike Troubadours. This episode offers an in-depth exploration of the band's musical journey, their evolution over the years, and detailed analyses of their standout albums and songs.

Guest Background

Jeff Pojanowski is a seasoned professor at Notre Dame Law School, specializing in the philosophy of law and legal interpretation. Beyond his academic pursuits, Jeff contributes to The Pillar, an online Catholic publication, where he offers cultural commentary. Living in Northern Indiana, Jeff has a rich history with Political Beats, having previously influenced episodes centered around bands like Crowded House and Pavement.

Discovering Turnpike Troubadours

Jeff shares his unconventional entry into the country music scene. Growing up in suburban Northern Jersey near New York City, his early musical tastes leaned towards grunge and alternative rock, including bands like Pavement and the Replacements. Initially dismissive of country music, Jeff's perspective shifted during his college years through the influence of friends and a Texan roommate. This transition led him to explore alternative country acts like Uncle Tupelo and Robert Earl Keen, ultimately bringing him to the Turnpike Troubadours.

Jeff Pojanowski [05:36]: "Good Lord, Lori," the first song he heard, immediately hooked him and marked his entry into appreciating the band's authentic country sound.

Early Years: Bossier City

The conversation begins with Turnpike Troubadours' early work, specifically their limited-release album, Bossier City (2005/2007). Recorded by founders Evan Felker and R.C. Edwards along with early band members, this album presents a stripped-down sound compared to their later polished productions. Despite its rough edges, Jeff appreciates the promising songwriting glimpses.

Jeff Pojanowski [26:12]: "Bossier City isn't a finished product, but it's a good album—not disposable."

Standout Tracks from Bossier City

• "The Shape" ([29:33]): An acoustic solo piece with generic yet captivating lyrics paired with a subtle accordion.
• "Rolling On" ([30:29]): A raucous tune that showcases the band's raw energy, though Jeff notes a potential overuse of fiddles.

Breakthrough: Goodbye Normal Street

Transitioning to their second album, Goodbye Normal Street (2012), the band witnessed significant growth. The addition of new members like Ryan Engelman (guitar) and Gabe Pearson (drums) enhanced their sound, moving towards a more honky-tonk style.

Jeff Blair [55:44]: “‘Goodbye Normal Street’ is a good album with knockout tunes like ‘The Funeral’ and ‘Bird Hunters’.”

Key Tracks from Goodbye Normal Street

• "Gin Smoke Lies" ([54:19]): A murder ballad with vivid storytelling and strong instrumentation.
• "The Funeral" ([37:44]): Celebrated for its detailed narrative and emotional depth, marking a maturation in their songwriting.
• "Bird Hunters" ([73:03]): Lauded as their best song, combining powerful lyrics with captivating fiddle melodies.

Evolution of Sound and Songwriting

Jeff emphasizes Evan Felker's exceptional songwriting abilities, comparing him to legends like James McMurtry and John Prine. The band's commitment to authentic country music, devoid of Nashville's polished sheen, resonates through their discography.

Guest Speaker [13:15]: "Evan Felker is one of the best lyricists going right now."

Self-Titled Album and A Long Way from Your Heart

Their self-titled album and subsequent releases like A Long Way from Your Heart (2023) further solidify their place in the Red Dirt Country scene. These albums showcase a blend of honky-tonk, rock inflections, and deeply personal storytelling.

Latest Release: Price of Admission

The discussion shifts to the band's latest album, Price of Admission (2025). Released after an indefinite hiatus caused by Evan Felker's personal struggles, this album represents a period of recovery and renewal for the band. Produced by Shooter Jennings, the album presents a darker, heavier tone that aligns with Felker's newfound stability and focus on family.

Jeff Pojanowski [129:37]: "The Price of Admission is a mature album with themes of recovery and renewal. Shooter Jennings' production gives it a darker edge that matches the songs' depth."

Notable Tracks from Price of Admission

• "Heaven Passing Through" ([143:06]): Appreciated for its reflective lyrics and beautiful melody.
• "Lucille" ([117:38]): Combines narrative storytelling with intricate instrumentation.
• "A Cat in the Rain" ([120:55]): Recognized for its complex storytelling and layered arrangement.
• "The Rut" ([94:18]): Features Johnny Hickman-esque guitar work and profound lyrical content.

Personal Insights and Recommendations

Throughout the conversation, Jeff Pojanowski and the hosts share their personal favorites and critical analyses of Turnpike Troubadours' work. Jeff praises the band's lyrical prowess and musical authenticity, while also offering constructive feedback on elements like fiddle usage and production choices.

Jeff Pojanowski [72:54]: "Bird Hunters is the best song Turnpike Troubadours have done to this day. It's an immaculate blend of storytelling and musicianship."

Recommended Albums and Songs

Albums to Own:

1. Diamonds and Gasoline (Early Years)
2. Price of Admission (Latest Release)

Top 5 Essential Songs:

1. "Every Girl" – Opening track from Bossier City, notable for its strong storytelling.
2. "The Funeral" – A narrative masterpiece from Goodbye Normal Street.
3. "Bird Hunters" – Arguably their best track, featured on Goodbye Normal Street.
4. "Heaven Passing Through" – A standout from Price of Admission.
5. "A Cat in the Rain" – Complex storytelling from Price of Admission.

Conclusion

Episode 146 of Political Beats offers a comprehensive and insightful exploration of Turnpike Troubadours, guided by a knowledgeable guest and enthusiastic hosts. Listeners gain a deep appreciation for the band's evolution, their commitment to authentic country music, and the profound storytelling embedded in their songs. Whether you're a long-time fan or new to their music, this episode serves as an invaluable guide to understanding and appreciating the artistry of Turnpike Troubadours.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Jeff Pojanowski [08:12]: "If you don't think you like country, you should listen to these guys. And if you don't like them, you actually don't like country."

• Guest Speaker [13:15]: "Evan Felker is one of the best lyricists going right now."

• Jeff Pojanowski [37:44]: "'The Funeral' is the first great song that truly defines what the band can be."

• Jeff Blair [55:44]: "'Goodbye Normal Street' is a good album with knockout tunes like ‘The Funeral’ and 'Bird Hunters'."

• Jeff Pojanowski [72:54]: "Bird Hunters is the best song Turnpike Troubadours have done to this day. It's an immaculate blend of storytelling and musicianship."

• Jeff Pojanowski [129:37]: "The Price of Admission is a mature album with themes of recovery and renewal. Shooter Jennings' production gives it a darker edge that matches the songs' depth."

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