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Katty Kay (veteran reporter and four-time NYT bestselling author) joins host Ron Steslow to discuss her new book The Power Code: More Joy. Less Ego. Maximum Impact for Women (and Everyone), co-written with Claire Shipman.

(02:12) Katty’s background and why she started looking at power

(07:07) Women are passing men in college degrees, but not the boardroom

(13:10) Why women have been more likely to avoid power

(16:10) “Power over” vs “power to”

(20:20) How reframing power changes how women approach power

(25:57) The connection between power and status

(33:04) Your brain on power

(38:30) Does power corrupt?

(54:30) What can you do to improve your power code?

Get The Power Code: https://www.kayandshipman.com/books

Follow Ron and Katty on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/RonSteslow

https://twitter.com/KattyKay_

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