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Another pina colada.
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Yes, please. Open a new retail location with 36% more square feet.
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Fantastic.
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I'm back bitches.
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He is so back. We've had friends on the show before,
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of course, and I will say sometimes
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we will receive remarks that are like no more high school friends. Except when it comes to Joe Peacock. We get comment after comment. That's like we'd like to have him as a regular host. He could replace Loren or Chandler.
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People write in requesting you. And so Joe happened to be on vacation, you know, this week in New York, and I hit him up about three days into his vacation and I said, how about you just come on the podcast, get to work. And you were nice enough to say yes.
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You guys are too kind. I was honored to get that voice memo. And I'm glad my team could make it work.
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Yeah. So Joe does have his representatives here, so in case we say anything, you know, they might break up the recording. But we today are diving right in to the messiest celebrity affairs. We're getting in the muck, in the mud.
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Yes. We are getting fully into it. And we have selected some of the juiciest affairs between, you know, man and woman. I guess there actually isn't any. There's no gay representation on. Besides you in this outline. I wasn't prepared to, you know, address that, but I guess apologies in advance, but yeah, we're getting into the messiest.
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Gay men don't cheat.
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That's what I've heard.
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Because they all have open marriages.
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Exactly.
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Which I don't believe in.
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Neither do we. No record state that, but yeah. Anyway, we've hand selected these couples and, you know, these very messy escapades.
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Yeah. And I think that, you know, as students of history, we would all be remiss if we did not learn from it. And the longer we go on and we don't revisit these tales, the more at risk we are of, you know, potentially having them recur. There's a lot of lessons to be learned in the shit show that has preceded between. Between Julia Roberts and Danny Moder. How that relationship began. I guess I wouldn't call it a shit show. Cause it is like a 20 year marriage.
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It is. Now they've sort of proved us wrong, but we'll get to it.
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Billy Crudup, Claire Danes and Mary Louise Parker. The drama that was the coming together and falling apart of Jude Law and Sienna Miller.
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Yes.
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Sandra Bullock and Jesse James.
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Okay, yeah, pour one out.
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And finally, we all remember the iPad drama between Gwen Stefani and Gavin Rossdale.
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That's a tale as old as time.
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I don't. But I'm excited to learn. When I saw that on the docket, I said, who is he?
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Really?
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Yeah, yeah. So I'm excited for my mind to be blown.
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Oh, that was a. That was a very classic tale of nanny. IPad.
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Yes. Yeah.
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Never trust a nanny. I mean, never trust a man. What is The John Bledsoe line. A man will.
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Oh, men will fail you every time.
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Yeah, Love that. Like said at the dinner table.
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Said at like a seminal dinner for our little sisters, like 19th birthday.
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I also just want to say, it may sound like when I'm talking, I'm shaming these people. I'm not. My family knows. I notoriously say affairs make the world go round.
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That is so true. They're certainly good for our business.
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They're great for business.
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Well, I also would argue that. I think like, if affairs suddenly stopped, I think the global economy, like something would shift. I think we needed to like have the earth turn its axis and so.
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Wow. It's like gravity or the. The sea patterns, the moon, the tides.
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Yeah, it's like it. We're all. We don't realize how fragile the e. The ecological system is until we have like a crucial function of what makes society break.
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Exactly that. Exactly that. Lauren.
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Guys, I'm sorry. I'll be so candid with everyone. I was out till 2am last night and I just have to tell the papa fossils I have to come clean. It was my friend's bachelorette and you know, you got a rah rah. And I had the best time, but I couldn't. I had to leave it all in the field for my friend. So I apologize if somebody. So the things I say today makes zero sense.
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Wait, can you. Before we get into Julia Roberts and Danny Moder, I need you to share about your evening because you did have a celebrity run in a torrid affair, man.
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This is very apropos because we're getting into messiest celebrity affairs. And let me just tell you, I'm at Shea Margot in New York City last night.
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Give the listeners some like, an explanation about Shea Margot because I didn't know what it was.
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Sheepmergo is an exclusive members only club. Okay. So it's very. She she. You're not allowed to take photos. And honestly, it is breathtaking inside.
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Is this where Taylor played Uno with Jason Sudeikis or is that a different member?
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She's always at the members only clubs.
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Yeah.
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And a devastating fact I learned when I was inside was that because I thought, what celebrities am I going to see? You know? Yeah. These members only clubs, they're basically like caverns of little rooms. So it's. It would be highly unlikely that even if you're a member of one of these clubs, you would like see a celeb out in the open. They would be in there, they would be ensconced.
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Sounds like A brothel.
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It really does. That's what I'm picturing. It gives.
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High end brothel for sure. And that makes perfect sense because I'm, you know, in the club section, they have a. Like a little room with a DJ that's a. I mean, I'm not even sure I'm allowed to say this.
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And people are like, it's uns.
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Un.
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Yeah.
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Okay. And we're at a table and anyway, in walks in the Flesh himself, none other than Mauricio Umansky. Yeah. Oh, I know.
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What is his energy in person? And height.
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Such a sighting. Height. He was a broad and goodly stature. I would say like Nephi. Yes, absolutely. And you know, he had definitely some Riz. I saw.
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Hold on, slow down. How tall? Like six one.
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Yeah. You weren't looking up, were you?
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Yeah, I was like 6:1. Oh, wow.
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Wow. Okay.
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And physique, you know, it was a dark room and he was clothed, so
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I just like, is this job important to you or is it not?
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He had a jacket on, so he was very sculpted. You know, I let my imagination do its work. Okay. And anyway, he did. According to the girls I was with, I couldn't rubberneck the whole time, sadly. Cause I was not like seated in his direction. But according to the girls, he did leave with a blonde like that he
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did not arrive with.
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Correct. Well, I don't. I suppose just a Thursday night for him.
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I guess so.
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Thank you. Thursday night, 2:00am Shane.
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Margot.
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It was just so wild because I never do stuff like this. So it was just. It was fun to have the sighting. And I will say, I'm sitting there, we're like drinking champagne. It's really fun. But I am like, I would never want to do this all the time. Like it's super fun once or twice a year, but I cannot imagine, like knowing what Rachel Zo said that she sees him out all the time. All the time. Like, this is his. This is his life.
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This is what he does. This is how he like moves through the world. This is. This is a weekly, you know, ritual for him. Yeah.
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And we. So we had a table of gentlemen buy us a bottle and we chatted.
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Okay. You suddenly look very nervous.
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They came over. What? They came over?
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They approached you?
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The bottle wasn't free.
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They sent us a bottle and then we went to thank them and then we started chatting. You know, we had a chat. Were they old? They were definitely old.
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Yeah.
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And I just remember your husband is
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out of town currently.
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My husband was not there. I had my ring on and I just remember thinking like this, this feels so icky. Like this doesn't feel good. And obviously I'm saying I'm married. You know, they're lamenting but like just about you. Yeah, we were basically. Oh no, we were basically all married. Except for my friend who's engaged. Yeah. Anyway, long story short though, I just, it just, it felt a little bit like great and spacious building to me. It had that energy. It probably was is my Mormon upbringing. But I just can't imagine. I can imagine like a, a six month sowing your wild oats, you know, you've had 30 years of marriage, whatever. I cannot imagine years in and it's like, nope. Thursday night, 2am I'm at the club.
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Yeah. Anyway, we're going hard. I think a huge part of the lack of appeal for me is really the time of day. Not only the infidelity that might ensue, but like it's just for me. Like when the lights are dim, I'm getting sleepy. Like I wanna go to sleep. So I love like a daytime situation but if it is like 10pm and beyond and we're just supposed to be drinking with, you know, in a very dark space, I want to go to sleep.
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Yeah, Chen's like at noon. I'm so down to be hit on by older men all day, every day.
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That's a more, you know, I kind of.
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At six o', clock, I'm off the clock.
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I have my wits about me. Anyway, that's all.
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Well, Chandler, they might be open during the day for lunch. So that could solve this problem entirely. Okay. And maybe that crew gentleman, they might, you know, they might also like to dine during the daytime.
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That' wedge salad.
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Exactly. Okay, well, let's dive in to some other messy celebrity affairs. The first being between Julia Roberts and Danny Motor.
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I'm nervous. I heard it once said that like every gay man is assigned at birth one actress to protect with his life. Like I would and I feel Julia Roberts is that for me.
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I mean, she's America's sweetheart.
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That smile.
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I would take a bullet for her.
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I know, I know you would. And so I just want to actually take a moment, take space, hold space for you. Because I know that there's no way that you can be unbiased in this and that this is going to be a difficult. This is going to be a difficult proceeding for you. So I'm just, I'm holding space for that.
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My sister sent me and thank, thank you, Chan. I'm going to hold space for the space you're holding for me. My sister once sent me some of the photos that we're going to talk about and it was like, I don't know, being bombarded with anti. Material.
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Yes.
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I was like, I can't think about Julia in this light. But regardless, the photos are, are true. Yeah, yeah.
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Well, and I think that, you know, this is going to be a rocky road and perhaps a winding one as well. But at the end of it, I hope we arrive at a place that we, you know, we don't struggle so much. And I'll just leave it there.
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Amen.
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Okay, so it's 2000 and Julia Roberts is at the peak of her prime. We're talking Aaron Brockovich, we are talking Pretty Woman, little known film anyway, My
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Best Friend's Wedding the year before for your listeners. She starred in not one, but two romantic comedies that summer alone that grossed over $300 million.
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Okay.
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Notting Hill and Runaway Bride.
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Joe with the facts and no iPad. Impressive.
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I'm just saying, I mean, he just. You just know your stuff about Juliet Roberts.
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Yeah, yeah. She was the world's highest paid actress at the time ever, going on to win her Oscar.
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And yeah, I mean, Runaway Bride is a special movie for the two of us.
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It is.
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We both hold it, you know, in a special place in our heart. And is, is there anybody sexier, more beautiful, more homegrown, natural?
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No.
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She is Eve in the garden.
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She absolutely is.
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And at this time she could have anything she wanted, which I think is
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actually a part of the story that is very interesting. Right, because she's with Benjamin Bratt at this time, who is in no uncertain terms, a fucking fox.
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I have the chills. That's why I held up my arm, because I have the chills just at you mentioning the name Benjamin Bratt, his
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drow and miscongenuality, his tan skin, his like slicked hair.
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I mean, he is beyond.
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Yeah, he is a tall drink of water. Tall, dark and handsome. So that is who she's, you know, partnered with. And she goes to star in a film called the Mexican in Mexico with Brad Pitt. So you would think, you know, this is where potentially she's going to take a little break on Benjamin. Yeah, potentially with Brad. But no, a little known camera operator.
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Not even a cinematographer at the time.
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Just someone part of the crew. Daniel Motor catches her eye. Okay. Now he was this relatively unknown camera operator and he was married to Vera Steinberg. She was a makeup artist. And Julia, she couldn't resist.
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She talks about in her latest smartless Interview. She talks about being on this film and how she was just, like, totally taken with this guy. And she said, like, I don't know who he is, but I have to be around him all the time. I have, like. And, you know, of course, she's not mentioning the fact that he's married or anything like that, but she just, like, she was so energetically. She was so energetically drawn to him that, like, I don't know, it was like a girl in high school or something where she was like, I have to make out with you. And now she even. She talks about, like, how she just, like, loves to make out with him so much.
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And if you've seen pictures of Danny, moderate, like, he looks like an Abercrombie and Fitch model who, like, wandered in from the soccer field. A God.
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Yes, yes. But also, I will say, compared to
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Brad Pitt, I actually would give a very respectful dissent to that view. I think he's totally cute. But when we're talking Benjamin Brat and Brad Pitt, which is a tongue twister, I don't think I will say those are, you know, next to those two,
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Benjamin and Brad, though, they feel like they know they're beautiful.
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Yes.
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Where Danny Moder, he feels like he's like, there's a working class beauty. If I can say, picture him just with a camera slung over his shoulder.
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That's true. You got the bicep flexing the whole time.
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He surfs.
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Slight bl, but in a sexy way.
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Oh, for sure. And musk. Yeah.
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He also has kind of like a surfer guy energy. You know, where he's probably been barefoot a lot of his life. Sandy hair, sand in his air. I don't know. That's what I'm picturing.
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She also had been with Daniel Day Lewis, who is my number one, who she left.
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She was engaged. Yeah. We can revisit that at another time. Like one of the hottest.
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Lyle Lovett.
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What's that?
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She was with Lyle Lovett, a country singer who has a face for radio.
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So this woman has rage.
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Also. She was with Kiefer Sutherland. Yes. She was engaged to him. Was it the night before their wedding or something that she left him for Daniel Day Lewis?
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Okay, so for the best man, she left.
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That's right.
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She went to Ireland with the best man.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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So a torrid history.
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Yeah, absolutely. So Julia has maintained since, you know, the filming of this film, the Mexican, that on set nothing occurred. Okay. And this is.
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They have to say that it makes you wonder. I'm just going to say. Oh, it's like, when guys tell you I'm a nice guy, I don't have to say that.
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That's actually a. That's an excellent point. Thank you. So this is the exact quote she says. For a really long time, I could see how wonderful he was, but we were both in relationships at the time, so we were just friends. She denied causing his divorce, and she said he sorted his whole thing out separate and apart from me. And I sorted my life out separate and apart from him. And I think that's the only reason we were able to ultimately fall in love with each other.
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The gall to say that on Oprah Winfrey's couch. It's like lying in church.
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Yes. Yes.
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Well, and it's absolutely like lying in church. It's sacrilegious. And I also think it's a little bit audacious, given the infamous T shirt.
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Yes.
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The T shirt is unhinged.
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The T shirt is crazy. The T shirt proves the T shirt. And I will also say the payment, which we can get to later, proves that they were still very much entangled.
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Yes.
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As they were trying to both sort this out.
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Right. He didn't actually just handle things.
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Yes.
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Completely or cleanly.
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I also don't understand the T shirt ladies.
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I'm gonna say that I haven't explained.
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Yeah, yeah. That. I'm so glad you pointed that out. Or because I have also struggled with what the pun is here. So, okay, so basically when Danny is trying to break up with Vera, Vera is not wanting to sign these divorce
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papers a la sweet home Alabama.
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Exactly. And Julia during this time is a little fed up with Vera's reticence and dons a homemade T shirt that says hello Vera on it.
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It looks. Yeah, it looks homemade. Yeah, exactly. It's got a and then L O W Vera.
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So my mind goes like a low blow Vera. I don't know.
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So aloe Vera, like. Like maybe she's like this. She's been. She feels like she's getting burned by this delay.
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Someone else on the Internet asked this question and I thought this was an interesting explanation that maybe could be right. They said, this person says, this is dumb of me, but can someone explain the a low Vera to me? Is it a play on aloe Vera? Vera is a lowlife. Is that it? I don't get it. And then this person said, I think it's British slang. She's saying, hello Vera. I don't know what other diva meanings she meant, other than that maybe some sassy white lady attempt at a call out. It is still a bit beyond me what it Truly means.
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But Julia doubled down on her T shirt. Like, wasn't she asked about it?
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So Oprah did ask her about the T shirt, and she says it was private. I stand by my T shirt.
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I need that on a T shirt.
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Absolutely.
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I mean, it was like the equivalent of a pap walk. Like a pap sit.
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Yes.
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Yeah. She knew what she was doing. Except I don't, because I don't know what that means.
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We still are confused. And so people should know that after the T shirt, Julia does make a cash payment.
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This is unconfirmed, but it's not denied.
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It's not denied. To Vera, allegedly. For a hundred thousand dollars to sign the divorce papers. Yeah.
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And they. He, she and Danny get married six
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months later once everything was sorted out. Midnight ceremony at her New Mexico property.
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New Mexico ranch. Yep.
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Okay. I think that, like, the Vera of it all aside, I think that my take on this is they've been together for two decades, they have three children. The marriage to Vera, you know, Vera, we love you. And I don't condone cavorting with married men. I really don't. But I feel like this is Eileen Davidson territory.
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Okay, well, I can't believe you would invoke her name, because that's hallowed ground for me. The problem is that Julia just has such a crazy history. Before this, it was not like this was her only sort of throw caution to the wind. I'm going to, you know, be careless with people's hearts and relationships moment.
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Right.
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But I do agree with you. I mean, we're going to get into some more messy affairs where we see that this is a pattern for people, and these people are just actually messed up. I do not think that Julia and Dani were, like, permanently messed up people.
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No, clearly not.
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You know, and they have. They have stuck it out.
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B
This affair is forgiven by me. For what it's worth. I remember listening to an interview later, apparently twice years later, with Julia Roberts and Oprah Winfrey, and Julia said, and now I, you know, after all this hard work in my 20s and 30s, I get to enjoy the treasure box of a life. And Oprah said, ah, the treasured box of a life. Like, what they have is. Is beautiful. And God bless the broken road that led them there. I'll say it.
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A
Yeah.
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C
I mean, I think that ultimately, if you are with someone for many decades, you have multiple children together, it a little bit absolves some of the, you know, unseemly ways a relationship can begin. I. I feel horrible saying this because we take a hard Line against infidelity on this podcast. But I know we have to contain some nuance. We do.
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A
And, you know, I think when I look at Julia Roberts face, I. I also just contain multitudes because I'm just like, she's the most beautiful person I've ever seen.
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B
I don't see affair when I look at her.
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A
No, I don't either. And that's. Yeah, that's where I struggle.
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B
Vera's doing fine. She was a makeup artist.
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A
She never married again. Do we know. So, wait, that. Yes, she's done well professionally, but do
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C
we know anything about. No, she's never married again. We have no idea.
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B
I think she's spoken ill of Julia, but, like, time to let go, maybe. I don't know.
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C
I think getting back to Julia's looks, I think that it's very. I just think for someone who truly was the top star in the entire country, the top Hollywood star, I think it's extremely sweet that she fell deeply in love with the camera operator. Very cute camera operator. And that is who she, like, deeply wanted to have a life with. She. She didn't want the Brad Pitt or the Benjamin Brat. She didn't care about being with another a lister.
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A
And that maybe speaks to more of the motivation here versus, like, I just need someone else to be obsessed with me or I need more power or, you know, some of these other motives, I think, for affairs.
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B
And with each of these, we don't know what was going on behind the scenes. Like, Dany and Vera could have been on their way out or already out.
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C
Vera could have been terrible.
- [24:34]
A
Yes, she could have been. She's lucky she got that job for the Avengers franchise. I mean, just look at this picture of the two of them. I think this is an exclusive from their wedding.
- [24:45]
B
Their wedding kind of gives a John and Carolyn Bessette's wedding.
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C
I mean, that's a sultry gaze.
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A
I'll say it. Yeah. These are people who are deeply in love. And she, to this day, is extremely in love with him. And just talks about how she's, like, so excited to see him walk through the door and she can't believe that he's hers.
- [25:03]
C
I just love that this has turned into, like, the love story of Dan. This is supposed to be messy Hollywood affairs. No. Is just a full, deep dive on their love, which we are. We've all bought hook, line, and sinker.
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A
We contain nuance and we contain multiple.
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C
And now she's just, like, playing checkers on Instagram with Emma Roberts. She's just like, I Think Julia Roberts has stood the test of time in terms of just what a cool bitch she is, you know?
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A
Yeah. And so I will say just a footnote here. They have three children, twins, Hazel and Phineas, who were born in 2004, and then a son, Henry, who was born in 2007.
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C
Yeah.
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A
So I wonder if she know they have made a sweet family out of it.
- [25:41]
B
Yeah. I wonder if she still has the Vera shirt.
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A
I know.
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C
Oh, by the way, I do want to clear Julia's name, and I think this will really be good for you, Joe. And you're going to feel really good after hearing this because it was actually Kiefer Sutherland that kind of broke things off because he was cheating with a stripper named Amanda Rice.
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B
Oh, I know her.
- [26:06]
A
Yeah.
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C
So I guess she found this out before, like a couple days before the wedding, and that is why they're. Yeah. So, okay, so in 1991, Julia and Kiefer Sutherland were supposed to marry, but the wedding was canceled three days before the ceremony, becoming one of Hollywood's biggest tabloid scandals. Reports world that Sutherland had allegedly cheated with stripper Amanda Rice, who publicly discussed their relationship and claimed he complained about Julia to her.
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A
Wow.
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C
At the time, Julia was photographed with Jason Patrick shortly before the planned wedding date, fueling speculation that both sides had emotionally checked out of the relationship. I mean, I would check out if my, you know, fiance was hooking up with a stripper. And after the breakup, Roberts began dating Daniel Day Lewis. So.
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A
Wow.
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C
I don't know that her. Well, actually, you know what? Thought relationship was controversial because he was still involved with actress Isabel Adani Adjani, who was pregnant with his child.
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A
Oh, gosh.
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C
When he and Roberts became involved.
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A
And we are done, let's go back to the love story that was created between Dani and Julia. Messy indeed. Messy is the theme of this episode, I think. Let's move on to the next messy affair. Okay.
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C
Yeah.
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A
This is the tale of Billy Crudup and Mary Louise Parker and Claire Danes.
- [27:21]
B
So Mary Louise Parker, of course, of Weeds fame, Billy Crudup of morning show glory.
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A
I mean, very hot guy. Sorry, I feel like that feels like bias for me to just come right out of the gate and say how hot he is, but he is very sexy.
- [27:35]
B
But this is what was crazy. Like, Billy and Mary Louise Parker were in like a seven year relationship and
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A
they had, like, decided to have a child together.
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B
She was pregnant.
- [27:45]
C
Seven months pregnant.
- [27:46]
B
And I believe Billy was starring on stage with Claire Danes. And by the way, Billy's like 35. Claire Danes I believe is 24.
- [27:53]
C
Correct.
- [27:54]
A
So they were in Stage Beauty. Also, if you see these, like stage makeup. The play was called Stage Beauty. Okay. They were both working backstage in the stage beauty department.
- [28:04]
C
Like they, their eyes locked with all that caked on makeup.
- [28:07]
A
This was like a 17th century period piece. Oh, if you look back at these, like, there's some like clips of Claire Danes and anyway, it's very ever after esque.
- [28:16]
C
Oh, okay.
- [28:17]
B
I kind of love that.
- [28:18]
A
Anyway. Yeah. So Mary Louise Parker is seven months pregnant. Billy Crudeau Crudup. Why don't I say Crudo? Billy Crudite. Billy Crudup is starring in this play and well, well, well, sparks fly and
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B
they fall in love.
- [28:35]
C
They do. And he decides to depart from his seven months pregnant long term girlfriend, Mary Louise. And Mary Louise takes the high road. She, her road is on the, is in the celestial kingdom.
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A
Okay. She absolutely takes the high road. She gives birth by herself or I don't know if she was literally alone in the room. But he is not involved. And she denies, you know, any spousal child support. I guess they weren't married. Were they married?
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B
Weren't married.
- [29:04]
A
They weren't married. She's like, I don't want your money. I'm raising this, this like kid on my own. Yeah.
- [29:09]
B
That's what I think is crazy about this affair too, is that Claire Danes and Billy Crudup like didn't hide it. There are so many paparazzi photos of them just like out and about, you know, together in Central park while Mary Louise is like nine months pregnant.
- [29:22]
A
Back home they like launch pretty soon after, like being discovered or after like the dissolution.
- [29:28]
B
I would have kept that very behind closed doors.
- [29:30]
A
Yeah. And Claire Danes, when asked about it, years, years later, years years later, she says, you know, I was, I was 24 and this was just something I had to see through. So honest, honestly, girl, you weren't 19.
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C
Well, that's the funny part is that, you know, Billy and Claire do not go in the way of Danny and Julia. You know, they do not go on to be together for multiple decades with many children. They just have a couple year relationship.
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B
Hope it was worth it.
- [29:56]
C
Yeah. For real. And I just think that, I'm sorry, 24 is not an excuse.
- [30:01]
A
No, it's not.
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C
Like 24 is plenty old enough to know it's probably not a good idea to be with the guy with a pregnant girlfriend.
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A
I think 22 and above, you don't get to use age as an excuse anymore. 23 and above, I think eight. Yeah.
- [30:14]
B
Eight years old.
- [30:15]
C
It's the age of accountability.
- [30:16]
B
Okay, maybe for straight people, but honestly, for me, I'm like. I was 32. I was still learning, getting my shit together.
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A
Like, you had to see it through.
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B
Yeah, I get it. I feel like I was very messy in my 20s. I was very messy yesterday.
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A
You were.
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C
Did you. Did you ever hook up with someone?
- [30:33]
B
Gay people. Oh, my God. They're like. Especially in Utah. Like, they're all closeted. If I'm hooking up with some.
- [30:41]
C
Well, exactly. That actually would be the exact scenario where.
- [30:47]
B
Except I am not being photographed in Pioneer park with these people. You know?
- [30:53]
A
Like, it's true. It's absolutely true. You know, and we do. We. I just. I just hold the older people in this scenario, like the Billy Crudup guy and, you know, Mary Louise Parker to hire, like, to a higher standard.
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C
And Claire Danes.
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A
And Claire Danes, like, yeah, agreed.
- [31:10]
C
And Mary Louise Parker, she met your high standard, but Billy and Claire certainly did not. So Billy did a. He had a profile with the New York Times around this, and they wanted to ask him, obviously, about this affair. Yes, this is the quote from the New York Times. So it says, in a remarkable show of restraint, Mr. Crudup has never commented on the subject, let alone tried to defend himself. When I asked him through his publicist how he would address it, he responded vehemently. I just want to make an argument for not including anything about Mary Louise Parker or, excuse me, the Mary Louise Parker situation. The situation. That whole situation, first and foremost, it is personal, painful, and involves an infant and does not deserve to be exploited to sate the appetites of circulation counters and bored readers. I've never indulged our society's misguided notion that my personal life is relevant to my work. So any reporting surrounding that is necessarily hearsay, speculation, or fantasy. Each published report is based only on the trade of suffering.
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A
Oh, my God.
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C
It's like he's on his high horse.
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B
Like he's the king of morals, apparently.
- [32:14]
A
Give it a rest, Billy.
- [32:17]
C
And, yeah, Claire Danes did tell Howard Stern, years later, I was just in love and needed to explore that. And I was 24. I didn't quite know how. I didn't quite know what those consequences would be.
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A
But it's okay.
- [32:27]
B
I'll be completely honest. So if I was ever in the same room as Billy Crudup, I would also feel like I needed to explore
- [32:33]
A
that and see it through every nook and cranny. Every nook and cranny. I mean, my favorite movie with him Is Almost Famous. Yeah, you need to watch Almost Famous.
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C
I need to watch it. Mary Louise does comment on this finally in 2015, and her memoir, Dear Mr. You, includes a chapter understood to be about the experience, written as a letter without naming him. And this is what she says. She says, I realize now that whatever I was walking through was part of my life. One piece of a bigger story that is mostly beautiful. That dignified, gut wrenching sentence.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Compared to his response, you know?
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A
I know, I know. And I just. I kind of love the fact that she was like, I don't want your money. I don't.
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C
Like, I'm.
- [33:15]
A
I got this. Yeah, you don't get. You don't get this anymore. Also, something very cute that happened is that she won a Golden Globe soon after giving birth. And it was. I mean, I just can't imagine going through all of this publicly. And then it's award season. We'll get into more scenarios where that type of thing happens. But she's, you know, accepting her award, and she, she. She says, like, I'd like to thank my. My newborn baby for making my boobs so amazing right now for. For giving me big boobs. Anyway, it was just, like, very darling and cute, and I just can't imagine what was actually happening behind the scenes in her life.
- [33:47]
C
Yeah, she's a masterclass, I think, in handling a horrible situation with so much grace and kind of humor and charm. Yeah, I. I honestly could never.
- [33:58]
B
I just can't imagine, like, carrying another man's baby and he's, like, fucking around with a woman 10 years younger.
- [34:04]
A
You're literally getting these pictures.
- [34:06]
B
Yeah. Yeah.
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C
Oh, my gosh. I mean, I also just think, though, if you watch that Golden Globes video and you see those tits, like, I'm sorry, but Claire Danes has nothing on Mary Louise.
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A
Yeah, it's just. I mean, it's. It just all goes back to men and you know, their need for, you know, new. New attention and affection.
- [34:26]
C
Yeah, some men. Some men. Excuse me, not all men, Chandler.
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A
All the men on this podcast. In this episode.
- [34:34]
C
In this episode, exactly. And apparently Joe, you know, and Pioneer Park.
- [34:37]
A
Sorry, one. One more thing. I just want to double tap on this once again. She's seven months pregnant. It's not like she was three months. Like, I mean, I think we've all known people who've been seven months pregnant at a time. You are, like, at the height of just, like, feeling it. I don't know, it's just like, maybe the. One of the worst possible times to have, like, your partner abandon you.
- [34:56]
B
It just feels like he was like, oh, you're no fun to be around. You're no use to me.
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C
Well, and I also, clearly he was just on set and couldn't resist. And I think that's where all of this happens. Obviously you're on set. It would be so difficult, I think, to compare your long term monogamous partner to like the new shiny a lister who's super good looking, who you have chemistry with. That's literally why you got cast together. It's why all these on set romances happen.
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A
Right.
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C
So, yeah, that's why Kagan's not allowed to become an actor.
- [35:29]
A
Well, I was just gonna say this is, you know, I will never let Ben do any type of Broadway play. As much as he begs and pleads. I will never literally see Ethan Slater Ariana Grande.
- [35:40]
B
Yeah, like, Mike Pence might have been onto something.
- [35:44]
C
Share more.
- [35:45]
B
Well, I just feel like he's like not allowed to be left alone with opposite sex.
- [35:49]
C
He says he won't go to lunch with a woman, you know. Thank you, Mike.
- [35:54]
A
Thank you, Mike. I think, I think we are. We're maybe closer than we are apart, me and Mike, in terms of our ideals and beliefs. Okay, what's next?
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C
Next we have the horrible case of Jude Law and Sienna Miller. I mean, visually a stunning case them together.
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A
Beautiful.
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C
Wow. Okay, Chandler, can we talk about how living in New York just kind of raises the bar in how you show up every day? We're out here walking these streets, hopping the subway, grabbing coffee in the West Village and you want to feel like you actually belong.
- [36:26]
A
Yes, exactly. I love getting dressed for the city, but sometimes you really want that extra spark. The kind of pieces that make you feel like the main character in a New York City romcom movie.
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C
That's why I got genuinely excited about this new collab at Macy's on 34th. Just dropped a limited collection with Molly Rogers. She is the Emmy winning costume designer behind some of the most iconic fashion forward New York TV show looks from the last few decades. She basically shaped what stylish city dressing looks like for a whole generation.
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A
Her style is so quintessential in New York. It's confident, colorful, and completely wearable. And now she's brought that signature POV to On 34th's private brand. I've been obsessed with how she reimagined I've been obsessed with how she reimagined her favorite looks into real pieces you can actually live in. Yes.
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C
These aren't fragile Runway things. Every piece has those Thoughtful, unexpected details, hidden pockets that actually work. Fun floral touches, bold prints and yes, some red soles that make you smile every time you take a step. It feels like you have your own personal costume designer curating your closet.
- [37:31]
A
They have this stunning black and white scarf halter top with the most beautiful draped cowl neck. It's so elegant and effortless at the same time. You just throw it on and it instantly elevates whatever you pair it with. Whether you're heading into meetings or out to dine alfresco.
- [37:45]
C
The fabrics feel luxe but so practical for real life. There's this pinstripe one shoulder top with matching balloon leg pants that I'm loving. It transitions perfectly from daytime errands to spontaneous evening plans. You throw it on and you instantly feel elevated.
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A
All of these pieces have their own personality. You put them on and just feel like they were made for you. And the best part is that you can pair them with your favorite accessories
- [38:08]
C
to make everything look truly your own completely. When you're living in the city, you walk miles every day. You're carrying your whole life in your bag, but you still want to look good while you're doing it. And this collab really nails that sweet spot. It's stylish but actually wearable for real life.
- [38:25]
A
The pinstripe set is fully next level. I want to throw it on with their pointed toe, sling back pumps and boom. It's just the whole outfit is ready to go.
- [38:34]
C
Same. And wait till you see the accessories they made for this collection. There are satin square scarves that you can style so many ways, plus the cutest metallic mini purses. The accessories are a great pop of color for any minimalist office look.
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A
So if you've been looking for a reason to refresh your wardrobe with clothes that match the New York fantasy we have all been craving since the early 2000s. This is a collection for you.
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C
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A
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C
I mean, Jude Law, they're like, I probably shouldn't talk about this kind of stuff, but, like, you can. Billy Crudup aged so well. I would say Jude Law is a different scenario.
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B
Oh, I disagree. I would not. I know what I said about Billy Crudup earlier, but, like, Jude Law is just an angel, really. He's beautiful.
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A
You're more attracted to Jude Law now. Yeah, yeah, I. Did you watch Black Rabbit?
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B
No.
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A
Anyway, it's a recent show with him, but he's. He's still. He's very handsome. Yeah. With Jude, but I. I'm more Team Billy.
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B
He's in all the lawyer AI ads and it's. I'd stop to meet my track.
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C
I'm curious.
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A
Wait, what is he doing in the lawyer AI ad?
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B
Oh, it's a play on his name because Law Stop.
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A
So he's hurting for cats.
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C
He's given his likeness to AI Apps to.
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B
I think it's a lawyer AI app. Yeah.
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C
This is a very vague reference, but I love it. Thank you. So in his indisputable prime, it's the early 2000s. He's starring in the Talented Mr. Ripley, Cold Mountain. And he's considered one of the most attractive, attractive movie stars, really? In the world.
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A
Yeah, he's like, I would say on the level of Brad Pitt at this time.
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C
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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B
Holiday.
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C
Sienna Miller was a rising actress. Okay. And she became instantly super famous the moment she started dating him. She was 23 years old. The British tabloids went absolutely crazy.
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A
I mean, how could you not go crazy on these two? Right?
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C
They're a little bit like, like Kendall and Jacob. Like.
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A
Yes.
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C
Yeah. But blonde, like, gentle. So they meet in 2003 while filming Alfie. And at the time, Jude is mid divorce with the actress Sadie Frost, with whom he has three children. Fun fact, he now has seven children. He has many different baby moms.
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A
British Nick Cannon, literally, he has seven kids. One quick note here. I was just asking, you know, phoning a friend, asking some people I know who, you know, are familiar with this situation. And they were talking about how Jude Law and his wife Sadie Frost were like the very cool it couple.
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C
Oh, really?
- [41:47]
A
Allegedly, there is a story that they had a party and their then toddler ingested ecstasy and had to be rushed to the hospital.
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C
No.
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A
Yes. Very cool it couple.
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C
Jill, that is so cool.
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A
I know, I know. That's kind of, like, sick when that happens. I believe everyone is okay.
- [42:07]
C
Yes.
- [42:07]
A
But. Yeah. Anyway, so just some. Some backstory on Sadie Frost.
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C
Yeah. But I guess, you know, cool as they were. They were. Their relationship had cooled because they were mid divorce. It wasn't like a situation where he was stepping out with Sienna. That relationship happened when he was separated from Sadie and they fall deeply in love. On Christmas Day, 2004, he proposes to Sienna Miller.
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A
I have to say, I love the idea of a Christmas Day proposal. My proposal has already come and gone, but I think a Christmas Day proposal is very Chicago.
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B
I don't know if Jesus does. He's kind of taking day away from
- [42:37]
C
him, but I couldn't agree more. It's also, like a little bit of a twofer for the guy. Yeah.
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A
I don't know. There's something about it. Maybe it's just kind of cozy. Especially if you're not, like, in front of a ton of people. Anyway, I'm just throwing that out there.
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B
Sorry, sweetie. Where is he putting the ring like that ham. Like, my God.
- [42:53]
A
I guess you're just also in, like, pajamas all day, feeling comfortable.
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C
It's also kind of like if you're with a. If you're in a big family, it's a little bit like proposing at someone's wedding. It's like. Like we're trying to do Christmas, and
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A
now it has to be all about you.
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C
Now it's like the whole day is about you guys.
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A
I stand corrected. Stand corrected.
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C
I know a Christmas proposal can be cute. I'm just, you know, playing devil's advocate for fire.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Anyway, okay, we digress. So sadly, however, in spite of being just the hottest couple on earth and being betrothed in July 2005.
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A
So six months, seven months after getting engaged.
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C
No, this would be this. So on Christmas Day. Oh, yeah. Christmas Day, 2004. So that would be seven months.
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A
Seven months, yeah.
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B
And they don't have kids together.
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A
Not at this point.
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B
He has kids with a prior wife.
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A
Yes.
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B
Okay.
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A
Okay. So it's seven months later, it's July of 2005, and his kids nanny. His kids from his previous relationship with Sadie Frost, exposes the fact that they were having a sexual affair after one of Jude's kids finds them in bed together, and Sadie fires her. He admits to it and publicly apologizes. But this news obviously breaks. And he's engaged to Sienna Miller.
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C
Not only are they engaged.
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A
Yeah, well, I'll get there. So they're engaged. She's currently starring in a play at the West End theater, which is like seven days at a time. So, you know, literally all day every day she's, you know, in, in a theater mode and she's having to, you know, deal with this. And then the tabloid, the son, which, you know, the sun, notoriously amazing morals. Well, you know, just always respect everyone's business.
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C
As do we. Us pop apologize.
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A
As do pop apologists. We're different than the Sun. I will say that they leaked that Sienna is pregnant.
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B
Oh, my God.
- [44:40]
A
Because they steal her medical records.
- [44:42]
C
Oh, that is crazy. I didn't know that. Yes, they steal her medical record.
- [44:46]
A
Somehow they get, you know, illegally, they get a hold of her medical records.
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B
I don't blame them. Like, that man is asking to be dragged. Yeah, yeah. I don't blame the son for this.
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Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's just, it's, it's just crazy.
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B
Then what happens? Like, does she dump him?
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So, so the engagement is then called off and they break up, but then they get back together for a little bit in 2009. Between 2009 and 2011.
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Well, so let's go back to this, you know, this coming out because obviously this is such a tabloid it couple.
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Yes.
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And it's just absolutely devastating for her. She ends the pregnancy and she like, has an abortion.
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Oh, I know.
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C
That's what that means.
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Jo, I was just so expecting you to say ends the engagement. And I was like.
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So I think she does both. And she actually really emotionally recounts that time now and says that she kind of made that decision based on obviously seriously heightened emotions and clearly what he had done. But I think she does have mixed feelings about that decision.
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Right. Especially because they get back together. But I think we do have to get back to the nanny here. I mean, we are bearing the lead. We are absolutely bearing the lead. Apologies, everyone. So the nanny's name is Daisy or. Right. She's 26. She was hired to look after Jude's kids, you know, with Sadie. And she essentially hand. Well, actually not even essentially. She hands over her diary to the tabloid.
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C
She sells her diary entry for $30,000.
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A paper diary.
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Yes.
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Where she.
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And let me tell you, I mean,
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should we read it?
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It was worth every penny. I truly thank the Sunday Mirror for, for that purchase.
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A
I think we need to read some of that.
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C
That wireless.
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A
I'll just go ahead and read the headline.
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B
Little Bridget Jones.
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Yeah. Most explosive part.
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Read as much as possible.
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Okay. It's wild. So 26 year old Daisy Wright, obviously she was the nanny of his kids with Sadie Frost. And she revealed in her diary that she had had mind blowing, rampant sex with Miller's fiance, bad boy actor Jude Law. Quote, it was amazing. Jude was a masterful lover who made my whole body tingle.
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Good for her. No wonder he has seven kids. I'm shocked it's not more.
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It goes on. So these are excerpts from her steamy diary. I guess we are no better than the sun. We are literally no better than the
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sun's like, I can't believe that exposed. What happened?
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What happened?
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How did you make her feel that way?
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The next thing. Well, according to her, I think that they went to a concert. I can't imagine, but according to her, they went to a concert and then they, like, came home and split a bottle of wine. One thing led to another, and then I'll get, you know, into more detail. She says, the next thing I knew, he was kissing me. We kissed and kissed for what seemed like ages. I was thinking, I cannot believe this. Jude Law is snogging me. The next thing I know, we are dragging each other upstairs to his bedroom, kissing. And then in the bedroom, ripping off each other's clothes. It goes on. We throw ourselves onto the giant bed.
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This is incredible.
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I wanted him so much.
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Go on.
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God forgive me. We kicked off our underwear. It was mind blowing, rampant sex. Amazing. Wonderful. However, at dawn, around three. Oh, this, this. This article is using your favorite expression. However, at dawn, around after round three, in the sack, Wright said the lovers were discovered in the bedroom by Jude's son, or who said, daddy, Daddy, I'm having a bad dream. And Jude said, it's all right, darling, go back to bed. The next thing I knew, Jude was kissing my neck. Ov.
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What's my favorite expression? Is it coming?
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In the sack?
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Oh, in the sack.
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Okay, okay. So the lovers were discovered in the bedroom by Jude's son. He said, you know, daddy, I'm having a bad dream. Jude said, it's all right, darling, go back to bed. The next thing I knew, Jude was kissing my neck and all over. It was fantastic. He was just great. It was just what I needed. I have to tell you guys.
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Just what she needed.
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I only read, like, the first sentence, and then I put it in the outline. I was like, oh, we gotta read this. I did not know what I was getting myself into with this live reading.
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Well, I did read it. That's why I wanted you to proceed with the full, unoriginal dress.
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We threw ourselves onto the giant bed.
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I just love the vision of watching this nanny Sit at her desk by the windowsill like Carrie Bradshell. It was just what I needed.
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Closed book, like taking a drag of a cigarette.
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Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
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30. That'll be 30. 30, 000 pounds. Wow.
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I just thought that she was getting paid, getting laid. Like, in some ways, it's a win for women for that woman.
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C
And potentially a win for women for sure.
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Yeah.
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I do want to tell your viewers I think Sienna has healed because I watched her Architectural Digest video of a cottage she fixed up in, like, northern England.
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Gorgeous.
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And that just the bones of that building and how she decorated it said, that woman is healed.
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Yes.
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No, she. She's gone on to live an amazing life. She has. She's pregnant again, I believe.
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Yes.
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C
And she's at like 45 or 44.
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She's married or engaged to, I think, a very hot guy. I don't think the.
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I would hazard a guess that the nanny has had less of an illustrious experience. So let her get that check.
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I think I actually read that she's, like, become virtually untraceable online.
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C
Oh, I thought you're like, a big star.
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She's like, now known as Jennifer Lawrence
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celebrity, but she's virtually untraceable.
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A
That's what I read. Yeah.
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B
That's probably just what she needed.
- [50:16]
A
It's truly. I mean, she got that 30 grand. It's not enough to live.
- [50:19]
B
30 grand?
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Yes, it was 30 grand.
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I would ask for a lot more.
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C
I know. 2003, you know, so adjusted for inflation,
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B
Amy got her a Prius.
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A
Okay. There was one other thing I want to say about Sienna Miller being healed, because I do believe she's healed. I think also, you know, when your ex goes on to have seven children by a bunch of different baby mamas.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Like, that guy's got issues.
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C
You dodged a little bit of a bullet. Yes.
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A
Yeah. But they do have another entanglement.
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C
They do.
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A
Yeah. For years. Which I can understand.
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And I don't know about you ladies, but, like, looking at Jude Law, like, I just assume he's having rampant, mind blowing sex with a bunch of different women. And maybe that's his role in Alfie that I just layer on top of. But I forgive him too. I'm learning. I'm very forgiving in this episode. Except you, Billy Crudup and Claire Danes.
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A
She just had to see it through.
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C
We should see if that, you know, feeling of. Of giving redemption is extended to our next couple, Sandra Volek and Jesse James.
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B
It's not. It's not.
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C
It's not.
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B
I'm still there. I'm right where he left us.
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Wow.
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C
Well, Chandler, take it away.
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Okay.
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A
All right, everybody. So we all remember the Blind side, right?
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C
We do.
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A
Incredible movie. Sandy is, you know, blonde as ever. She looks so good in that movie.
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B
I'm not changing his life, he's changing mine.
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A
I think that now that movie has been looked at with a little bit of a problematic lens, I think, think. Right. Hasn't it been kind of. Yeah, people take issue with it.
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B
Has said that like it actually wasn't as great of an experience for him.
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A
But all that aside, that's not what we're here to discuss today.
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B
Tim McGraw being a taco Bell franchise owner. Franchise owner.
- [53:32]
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Oh, in the, in the series. Oh my gosh. I mean, yeah, Tim McGraw did no wrong.
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C
Yeah.
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B
But sorry, that's not what We're.
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A
He did nothing wrong. In fact, he does have a. He does make a cameo here.
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The Blindside Fan club.
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A
Okay, so we all see the Blind side. We love that movie. And on March 7th, Sandra Bullock wins her very first Oscar for Best Actress in the Blind side. Okay. So during her acceptance speech, you know, winning Best Actress, she looks at her husband, Jesse James, in the audience, and she says to my husband, there is no surprise that my work got better when I met you, because I never knew what it felt like to have someone have my back.
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And I'm sorry, you're not doing the reading justice.
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A
Okay, sorry.
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B
I remember. I remember watching it.
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A
Okay, please.
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And she just was like. There's lots of pause and she goes. And you, like, it was. I had chills. And, like, the way he looked at her, I was like, oh, these two people are kind of an odd pairing because he's like the American Choppers guy. Yeah, she's Sandra Bullock.
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A
Very odd.
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B
But I just said, okay, that is love. I think we all felt that.
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C
Of a full reenactment, please.
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B
And so assuming she's like. And I want to thank Warner Brothers and Meryl, I'm sorry I beat you to my husband. There is no surprise that my work got better when I met you. And we all saw Miss Congeniality, too. I'm fabulous. So you could disagree, because I never knew what it felt like for someone to have my back. And I just want to say, too, wow.
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C
Fbc.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Full body chills. Wow.
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B
Actually, I'm like, I'm gonna take away.
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C
No, no, you.
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A
Please, please, please.
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B
Well, she had. What we didn't know then is that Sandy had been long wanting to adopt and start a family, and so she adopted a son.
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She was already in the process. Yeah, yeah.
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B
But she didn't want to. She had, like, actually, like, already signed the papers, but she didn't want to make it public yet because she was on this Oscar campaign and. But she said. I remember this anecdote that she kept his little sock in her purse at all the Oscar events to kind of, like, remind her that, like, oh, my God, this is real.
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A
Wait, that's the sweetest little story.
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C
That is very, very.
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B
Presumably, she was going to be starting this family with Jesse, who I think she was married to.
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C
Yes.
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A
Yeah. They got married. They'd been married for five years. Well, two weeks after this, you know, after this acceptance speech, this horrific story breaks that he has been actively cheating on her during their relationship.
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B
Multiple women are coming forward.
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A
Yes, I remember. It was just like, in real time. It was like new woman after new woman coming forward with tails.
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B
And just the whiplash of us all seeing Sandy on top of the world winning her Oscar. And then this news.
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And I think too, I kind of liked them together. Cause I was like, he's not my cup of tea. But it's like unconventional and like, felt
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B
like a bad boy.
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A
Yeah.
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B
In the best way.
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A
Right. I don't know.
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C
I didn't. Okay. I felt like, you know, I mean, he was. He had an ongoing custody dispute with his ex wife, the adult film actress Janine Linda Mulder.
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B
There was that.
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A
There was.
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C
I just. I didn't find him to be, as Bethenny Frankel would say, at the level for Sandra Bullock.
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A
He wasn't a stalwart guy. No. Yeah.
- [56:37]
C
So. But none of that was a secret. However, his cheating was. And so the woman who went public with this affair was Michelle Bombshell McGee.
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A
Apparently, yes.
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B
Michelle Bombshell McGee is her name.
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C
She was a heavily tattooed model model from San Diego. And she told In Touch weekly that she had an 11 month affair with Jesse James beginning while Sandra was in Atlanta. Filming the Blind side was just what she needed. And according to Michelle Bombshell McGee, she initially reached out to Jesse about modeling work at West Coast Shoppers. He responded and asked her to send photos to his personal email. And things escalated from there. So she said Jesse told her Sandra doesn't live here when referring to her home and assumed they were separated. Michelle McGee reportedly sold the story to the magazine for 30,000. I think that's where we got the $30,000 number.
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No, I know that Daisy sold her.
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C
So we have a going rate. This is the going rate.
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A
Maybe now I'm. Now I am questioning myself. Anyone put a pin in that?
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C
Anyway, so Sandra did not find this out from Jesse. She found it out from her publicist, who received a call from Intouch saying the magazine was preparing to run the story and offered her 24 hours to respond. By the time the story was published, Sandra had already moved out of their shared home.
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Jo, do you want to read your account? Your anecdote that you said has stuck with you forever?
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B
Please. Yeah, because I think in Jesse James memoir, which is so funny that a man like that would write a memoir.
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C
We've heard enough.
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B
Yeah, yeah. He said that, you know, Sandy found this out from the publicist, as you said, and she showed up to the west coast chopper's office and he says, quote, I admitted the affair. I told her the hard details. I let her know that I'd never Loved this woman that I never cared for at all. I mean, we know that there was multiple women, right? And he said the feeling of shame and sadness that washed over me as Sandy began to cry was almost beyond measure. I didn't touch her. I sat frozen in my chair, watching as Sandy's small body shook with sobs. And this is the part that gets me. Sandy rose to her feet. She unfolded her sunglasses and put them on her face. And she walked steadily and purposely to the front of the shop. Opened the heavy metal door. For a moment, the sunlight enveloped her. The door closed behind her and she was gone. I just love. She learned what she needed to and said she was gone. She's gone. I mean, that's classy.
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Is he kind of a good writer?
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C
I know he's like a little bit of a poet.
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B
I'm sure there's a ghostwriter involved.
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A
I pray.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I also had chills.
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A
It also could have been your reading.
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C
I'm sorry, but no man is as rampant of a cheater. And also just like such a soulful words. Yes.
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B
You know, I didn't send you this, but years later on a late night YouTube rabbit hole, I saw Entertainment Tonight interview with Jesse James and they're asking him about the affair again. They're like, well, what about how Sandy, you know, had said that about you and her Oscar so speech and he was such an about it. He goes, well, think about what she does for a living.
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What does she do for a living?
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As in she's an actor.
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A
Like, she's an actor.
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B
Like she was just acting up there that like, oh, you have my back and I love you. Like, as. What did Taylor say There's a special place in hell for Jesse James.
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A
Wait, what?
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C
What is the lyric you're referring to?
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B
Well, it's actually a quote after Tina and Amy made just like a light joke about her. The Golden Globes.
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There's a special place in hell for
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women who don't support other women.
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A
Oh, yeah.
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She was an interview with like Elle magazine and she goes, well, all I have to say about that is Katie Couric once told me, there's a special place in hell for women who don't support other women.
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C
That was a deep Taylor Swift cut.
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A
I mean, Taylor Swift via Katie Couric.
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Well, it's not over because then a year later at the next Golden Globes, Amy Poehler wins the Golden Globes. And right before commercial break, Tina Fey goes. And congrats to my friend Amy Poehler. There's a special Place in hell for you. But then it's not over because then about a decade later, Amy Poehler and Taylor Swift go to announce the Oscar for best animated feature. Because Taylor Swift had been in Cats that year, and they present it together. And that just moment for me, I said, oh, they've healed.
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A
Yeah, we're good.
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C
They've healed.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Wow.
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B
They went to the red table.
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A
Jada Pinkett Smith. Yeah, they hashed it out.
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C
Exactly. Wow. Thank you you for walking us through that.
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B
Beautiful.
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A
No, that was, that was important.
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C
It was a beautiful detour.
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A
I want to also just mention a few other, you know, crimes from Jesse James.
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C
A fourth woman then, you know, emerges
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A
and says that she also had an affair with Jesse James. He then gets engaged to tattoo artist Kat Von D. I have loved some of her eyeliner in my days. Sumi. And he then cheats on her with 19 women is what was what she counted up to. 19 women who cheated on her wife.
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B
It's a miracle he doesn't have seven children.
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A
No, truly. And Sandra has also, you know, just alluded to him in a Vogue interview. And she said, you know, we're all where we're supposed to be.
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C
And where, where exactly is Jesse?
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A
I don't know. In a hell of his own making.
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C
And I also just want to say, when it comes to Sandra Bullock, I felt like when she stepped out with Bryan Randall and he was like a 6 foot 3 silver fox. I just feel like I saw the universe, just things like cosmic justice playing out, you know, karmic seeds ripening and those fruits falling from the vine for her.
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A
And I'll be a little petty right now. And I can only imagine that Jesse James has aged like bad cheese.
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C
I mean, he was already not on a great path.
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B
Yeah, well, I mean, that much time on a motorcycle in the sun can't be good for anybody.
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A
Road hard, put away wet.
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C
Well, let's move forward.
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A
Have you ever heard that expression, road
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B
hard, put away wet.
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A
Have you ever heard that expression?
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C
You never heard that expression?
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B
No, I've never heard that expression.
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C
That's what Chuck Bass told Leighton Meester in the Gossip Girl.
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A
What did he say? I mean, I don't think it's a Chuck Bass original.
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C
No, it's not.
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B
Road hard as in sex
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C
is the.
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A
I think just like, just when you,
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C
you know, like random.
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A
Think about, think about also like a grill or something.
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C
We don't believe. We don't believe this. It's just a phrase.
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A
It's just a phrase that like, can mean just like someone who Is not something or someone who's not aging well.
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B
Sure. Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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C
I actually think it's more like a. Like a sex negative. Like, whatever.
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A
Open to interpretation. Let's move along.
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C
That's the beautiful thing about language. It's open to interpretation.
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A
So true.
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B
A Lo Vera.
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A
That was so good.
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C
We have a final couple. Messy affair. Gwen Stefani and Gavin Rossdale. But we don't have much time left, everyone. We're getting evicted from the studio in 10 minutes. So long story short, he cheated with the nanny and she found out via the iPad.
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A
The nannies came to her and said, hey, we found something on the iPad. You need to look at this.
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C
Exactly.
- [63:16]
A
And yeah, Gavin Ross still didn't understand how the cloud works. And, yeah, the iPad was truly invented, I believe.
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C
By God.
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A
Yes.
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C
Because he was like, there's too much fucking around within the family structure. So we're going to get some iPads.
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A
Yes.
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C
And that's going to bring, you know, that's going to. Sunlight is best disinfectant. And the best way to shed light on affairs is through iPads.
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A
Okay, let's move forward. Yes.
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C
Because we actually want to get to the meat of this episode, the heart of this episode, which is our predictions for Taylor Swift's wedding. The Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce.
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A
You guys, we are, I believe, weeks away from this wedding.
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B
We're on Wedding Watch.
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A
Okay.
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C
What,
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A
like the ABC thing?
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C
What is our prediction on the date? Let's start there.
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B
I think it's gonna be fourth of July weekend. It wasn't that reference. And like Endgame. And I think that's when she kind of put out her post, Seeking love. Okay. Taylor Swift always has, like a Fourth of July party. And that summer she met Travis Kelsey, she was with the Heim sisters and someone else. And it was. The post was like just a couple single gals.
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Yes.
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You know, and it was right before she would meet Travis. I feel like there's some significance there.
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And I think we've heard that it's allegedly on July 3rd.
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B
Yeah.
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C
I think it's going to be June 13th, 2026.
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So you think we're days away.
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B
How come?
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Because. So June is 6 plus 13 is 4, 10. And then 2026 is 10. 10 times 10 is 100. They keep it 100.
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Numerology.
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B
Numerology.
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13th. You know, she loves the number 13. Not sure if you are aware Friday, that's. That's, you know, I just think that that is. Or, I'm sorry, Saturday the 13th. That is kind of a perfect wedding.
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Day.
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A
I mean, it's June 13th is a Saturday. July 3rd is a Friday. So I actually see her getting, of course, married on a Saturday. Yeah, I mean, I got married on Friday because it was cheaper.
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B
I don't know if this is true, but I heard that, like, they're not sending out paper invites, that she's calling people. She's calling people. Calling people, which I kind of love. And I heard that she was even just saying, keep this general period of time open. Like, there's not firm details yet.
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It's the only way to keep these.
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These details locked down. Do we think that the Rhode island story was leaked by her team to try to. Just to try to get people off
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B
the scent that it's not going to be in Rhode Island?
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Yeah, see, I think the New York City story was leaked to try to, like, throw people off, because I don't think she's having her wedding in New York City.
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C
I don't think so, either.
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A
I, like. I don't see that for her.
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Do we? Okay, prediction.
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Yeah.
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C
Do we think when she walks down the aisle, the music that we'll play is. It's been a long time. Oh, my God, the countdown clock.
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B
Travis Gelfrey's, like, bouncing. That's my girl. Big reputation.
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C
And do you think that the. You know, the officiant, when he asks if anyone objects, he'll say, speak now.
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A
No. Anyway, only serious predictions, Lauren. Okay, Joe, I would like to hear some of your serious predictions.
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B
I was kind of sold, actually. That would be in New York. I have a hard time believing it's going to be in Rhode island, which is, like, helicopters and that much space.
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C
Boats.
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A
Boats could literally be.
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B
But Selena got married on the bluffs in Malibu, I believe, and there was a bunch of tents. But, like, who wants to get married in a tent? Like, I want there to be open skies. I don't know. Maybe she goes the route of JFK and Carolyn Bessette, where she finds, like, some random island.
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C
No, not with 500 people. It's too many. It's too many guests.
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B
Yes.
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C
Too much logistics. Christmas tree farm could be.
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Potentially. I mean, is it at Gigi's? Is it at Yolanda's farm in Pennsylvania?
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C
Oh, Chandler, you could be onto something there.
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A
I could be onto something.
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C
Okay, real prediction from you.
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A
I think there will be a second or third look. Maybe. Maybe it's gonna be the third or fourth.
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C
That's your prediction? No, no. No second look.
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A
Probably not this. Maybe not the second, but the third or fourth look will be a skater skirt. There will be a skater skirt look in the wedding, you know, outfits.
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B
I think Jack Antonoff will approach Lena Dunham about the memoir Famesick at the wedding.
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A
Do you think it'll be a positive interaction? I feel like it'll be a positive.
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B
Yeah. Maybe somewhat in jest, like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, can't wait till you read my memoir or something like that.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
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C
I predict that she will not have her signature red lip in cat eye.
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A
Yeah.
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C
I think that she will go with a natural beatific, just like, you know, neutral makeup palette.
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A
I agree.
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C
Maybe I'm just trying to will something into existence. Probably.
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B
I'll. I will. I'll. I'll will this into existence. I hope Donna Kelsey meets somebody at the wedding.
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C
I'm gonna say it.
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A
Yes, 100%. That would be a great meet.
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C
Cute.
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A
I also think that Travis will not be in a black suit for some reason.
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B
What are we thinking?
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C
Pinstripes?
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B
Yeah. Rat.
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A
And maybe.
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C
I don't know. I just.
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A
Like, for some reason, I don't feel like. Like.
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C
Like he's definitely gonna be in a box.
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A
Here's what I'm gonna say. I feel like the fashion of this wedding is not going to hit, and so I'm just kind of hedging my best.
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C
See, I think. I think she's gonna slay. I do.
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A
Okay. I hope I'm wrong.
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B
I hope she gets rid of the folklore evermore hair. Like, I want somebody looks like they touched her hair.
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A
That's not her. Jo, that is such a good point to raise.
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C
Like, what will the bangs be doing
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A
on the wedding day?
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C
She has. She does have forehead dysmorphia.
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A
Yeah.
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C
And I hope that does not still afflict her on her wedding. Wedding day.
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A
I know.
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C
Because she just. She can't show her forehead, but she
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A
has a great forehead. Do you think she'll have bridesmaids?
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B
I was just. I'm super curious about the bridesmaids, and I'm super curious about Blake Lively's plans.
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C
She will not be there. That's my prediction.
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A
But 500 people, you feel like.
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B
I definitely don't think she's gonna be there. I'm more like, what is Blake Lively gonna be doing? But, yeah, really?
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C
I actually feel like Blake could be there. No, Blake Lively will be in some clown outfit the next day on a.
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A
In a.
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C
On a pap walk to show she's all good to be with Ryan.
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B
100.
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A
I don't know. I just feel like a wedding of 500 people. I mean, I don't even Think I've ever been to a wedding with 500 people like you blended.
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C
Like there's a lot of people. I actually disagree with that.
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A
It feels almost dangerous to have that many celebrities in one place.
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C
That's true. It's kind of like how like all the general authorities don't fly on a plane together.
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A
Not true.
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C
No, that is true.
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B
And like at conference, one of them is always missing Chan in case it's blown up.
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C
Up.
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B
It's true.
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A
I think I maybe knew that. But that is nutso.
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C
Chandler, I definitely think that this, this wedding could be kind of dangerous to attend. But also I just don't think that terrorists necessarily that interested in a list.
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A
No, not necessarily. I'm not talking about like Al Qaeda.
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C
Well, that's where my side went.
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A
I'm talking about like, I don't know, just crazy people.
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B
Like the guys that show up at our apartment.
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A
Yeah, just celebrities in general.
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C
They'll be such high security. It'll be fine.
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A
It's just gonna be crazy. Do you think it'll be a multi day affair for all these celebrities and with security too.
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B
It's like most of the chief's team's gonna be there. You're not gonna mess with that.
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A
Yeah, that's true. Andy Reid will be there.
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C
Do you think Barack Obama will be there? No, no, because Prince William says he's gonna be there. Yeah, he is. He just gave an interview where he says there's like an invitation lying around.
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B
I kind of love that.
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A
You're kidding me.
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C
No, I'm serious.
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B
Do you think Julia Roberts is going to be there? I would love that. She's such a fan of them. Remember she was talking to Travis.
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A
Probably anyone who was invited, I think to the VIP 10 is going to get an invite to the wedding.
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B
Lucky Anne Hathaway.
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A
You guys, we are lucky to be on Wedding Watch. We absolutely be living in the year of 2026 when Taylor Swift is getting married.
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B
And we'll keep watching.
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C
We absolutely will. Any final predictions that we did not get to from you two? No.
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A
No.
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C
Okay. No chance. She will be dancing. That they will on the dance floor. That they will bring out a refrigerator so they can dance in the refrigerator.
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B
Life. Oh my gosh. Private moment. Two people maybe back at the hotel room. Babe, would you open it? Just slightly.
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A
Just crack it. Everyone, thank you for listening. Joe, thank you for coming on the podcast. Yes. Yet again blowing us out of the water. Such a talent. We love you.
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B
Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here.
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A
Love you guys.
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C
Thank you so much for listening and we'll be back on Friday. Love you Joe. Thanks for coming. Bye bye. Love you Chan.
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Thanks.
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