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With a blind item related to this okay, Brittany home decided that Blake tried to have a pair of dressers but he wasn't interested and shut it down. I think Taylor told Brittany and more Blake told Brittany. Either way, Taylor was in the know. Oh, I'm tired. So what she's saying is that Blake tried to have an affair that Brittany was telling people that Blake tried to have an affair with Justin and he showed. Well, well, well. It's a Wednesday episode. We're back with celebrity Hot Topics. I'm actually quite happy to be talking about something, you know, neutral like bright and just and intense. But first is my wedding. My wedding's amazing. I love it. I do still want to talk about it, but I'm just excited for, you know, new thoughts. I was actually wondering if you had any post wedding anxiety you wanted to get through. Well, I'll tell you what I did with post wedding. Okay. Spent the morning in urgent care. That's not a little dramatic. I spent like 45 minutes. Urgent care. Okay. That's like, I don't know. That's a text I feel like I would send her. Like mom said, I've been myself in the morning. Oh my gosh, that is so something mom. She'd be like, I can have no crimes. Well, mom, we love you. Love you. You don't have a flair for a dramatic at all. No, not at all. Just direct. Yeah. No. Did anything. You downplay your pain actually. And I do want to talk about how stuff on Thursday was after I get through this next point. So anyway everyone, I'm this morning because I have been unwell, you know, in the nether regions. That's how it works. That sounds like a terrible. Even grosser then I've been having issues going to the restroom with frequency. It's a frequency problem in terms of methods too often. So I'll leave that. And this has been going on for five days. This happened to me When I came back from India. Really? Oh, I remember hearing about your plan like it was. It wasn't that bad for me, I guess, at first. Or maybe I didn't put 10 to each other. But you. You dealt this day. Like in the restroom on the plane? No, not for days on once I got some Pepto Bismol in me. Not the proper medications, I felt some alleviation. We need to get off this topic. But no, I mean, it definitely was in the clean restroom, the laboratory, every three minutes. Yeah, well, I. What started as a hangover on Friday has now resulted in an urgent care visit today because it hasn't ended and it's only gotten worse. And I've tried to eat more normal foods anyway. I have travelers. You know, the cute wanderlust girls don't talk about enough. They really do know. That's such a good point. Were the people. I mean, do we need to say that for the people who are not watching this? I think people can just infer. Okay. Yeah. So I am now on antibiotics and working through that. Rightly. And not publicly. And not publicly. Privately and not publicly. But I do want to just briefly talk about how lovely our Mother's Day was. We had a wonderful Mother's Day. It was so nice because our own mother was there, was present. It's been a while since we've spent Mother's Day. Yeah. And so they went on a cruise right after a wedding, and then they came back because their boat left from Brooklyn Harbor. I didn't know. I don't see cruise ships. I don't know. They leave from here. I don't know if they come down this river. Okay. But they definitely. I think they do depart out of New York. Why? There's a big bottle of water to your left. They went on a cruise, and then they came back and they're here in town for Mother's Day. It was so nice. I will say I had a moment of shame on others day. Why? So is I. I didn't know Courtney was having a party and that she was hosting a bunch of friends as well. Yeah, I just thought it was us. So I did not look particularly cute. I just kind of came over looking disheveled cute. Well, thank you. You always look cute. But anyway, like, I was like, nerd. Dishevel is very different from my shoveled. That's true. We both know that's true. Yes. Anyway, long story short, Courtney had her friend Meg there, who's the founder of Dorsey. Yes. Very chic, like CEO. Cool girl. Yeah. She like the first time I saw her first she came downstairs at Courtney talks. I was like, who's this like freaking French ones or letting in Courtney? I was like, has she take. I'd have supporting you and take it up with a lover. It was giving Jody and. Well, Jody and Ruby. Yeah. But like not in any looks wise similarity. Just because the second Wyatt was gone somehow they wasn't like in the house. No, they are not lovers. They're just friends. Just great friends and. But he's just very chic and cool and she's volunteerating and I. I was at dinner and I just had this moment where I looked down at my corn on the cob and noticed that it looked like it had been eaten by a feral animal. And I looked at Meg's corn and she had demurely mud it with a knife and it was a clean. Like the rind was clean or the coffee was created a straight edge. I like, I feel like the. It was like it was a clean. It was like, like eating corn ass pallets 100%. And I was eating corn at the county fair. A okay moment I saw you eating your corn and you were like hunched over a go. I was so starving that day. Anyway, I just realized I'm like, this is mortifying. This woman's never going to become cool again. All my chances of being friends are gone. And yeah, that was lovely. That was. It was just. It was just a moment of shame on that Mother's Day. What else is happening this week? I mean, really just a lot of celebrity stuff to get into. I'm just happy to be doing a normal public episode hitting the hot topics. I will say one disclaimer, everyone. Yes, Our producer Scott is frothing at the mouth right now. Falling at the mouth. Frothing. Foaming of some type of something without milk. Froth or foamed bowels are being admitted. I also kind of associate that with like dying Ricky O. Sounds like. Yeah, okay. He is just very interested in us. The bit. Chomping of the bit. That's better. He's chomping at the bit for us to do. But a plate by plate on the Diddy trial and you just know he would love nothing more than we did daily recaps on YouTube. I know. And I think we. We started doing something like it over.
Scott
Definitely.
Chandler
We're definitely not. I say this because I'm a person who's always involved in the Karen read thing. I wish there was a podcaster who was doing daily recaps of dating of Karen Reid. Yes. And like there was a podcaster that I already like, tried and true love. I can just like now tune into their coverage of this thing that's happening right now. I love that as well. I am excited to high level go over Diddy and to touch on it and I do not want to do a Johnny Depp Amber Heard level analysis and coverage for me. I think, honestly, no, it's just like too dark. I completely read the article that I put in our outline. I was like, I don't want to talk about this. Like we're going to get into it, we're going to discuss it. But everyone, this is what I'm asking the whole point of this little segment. Please let us know if you actually want us to give it. If you want us to become a dating podcast within a couple months. I personally prefer not to, but if that's what the people want, we will do it. Yeah, but I kind of feel like the people prefer us to be a little bit more light and girly and fun and don't really want to get into like full time freak offs. I, I think as well we could always kind of every 10 days or so do a bonus or, or do like a roundup of this. What's been happening like so much like these trials are just kind of quite boring until there's like a big tidbit that comes out. No. So, you know, but a daily recap or, you know, the ND podcast might not even serve our audience very well. It's also just so different from Johnny and Amber, which was on camera. And so that just was so much more riveting to watch. But when you're just looking at illustrations and just reading the New York Times, like timestamp report just sounds titillating. But you know what was titillating? J. A stunning moment I had during Mother's Day. I was at the Mother's Day in your restroom experiences. I was on my phone in the restroom. Classic. And I think that raises the record. I tried not to because that was so horny. I can't stand being inside my own brain. I think I'm the exact same way. For more than two minutes. I've been having theorists though if I'm leaving the front, excuse me myself to go to the restroom in front of people. I forgot. Oh no, it's made down some really bad. Okay, we know what you're about to do. No, this is. Yeah, gross completely. Anyway though, it was a gorgeous moment on the toilet because there I beheld Taylor and Travis having coffee in Philadelphia Also, I was the first of our friend group to see this. I, I literally, my stomach got so excited. I was so thrilled. I, I. Exactly. Thank goodness I was on the toilet. And after I cleaned up, I went outside to many members of our daily tarot switch group, Judd, who were present. And I just was so excited because I knew none of them had seen that yet because the news had hit nine minutes before. Yes. And we have our first sighting since, I believe, March, early March, I'll say, too. We were with our. I would say, our Taylor Swift aficionado friend, Kelsey, who's in. She's in the group chats that we're not allowed to be in. She's in the private discourse with the people who are very close to the Queen herself. Actually, don't know if that's true, but just with Rabbit fans, I'm just. I'm just a group chats that we're not privy to and we haven't been right into. And she is not giving those invites out. So. I was so excited to break the news, everyone. Taylor was in a Christy dawn midi dress for Mother's Day, a floral mini dress, and the new Chanel 25 hobo bag. Oh, that's a new Chanel. Oh, wait, I clocked it immediately. I heard you say that. I didn't know it. I don't even know what. Is it big or what's the. It's like. It's a. Yeah, it's like a hobo bag, and it's kind of big. It has a lot of hardware on it. Chanel has been going through a moment where I feel like it's most of everyone, less chic. It's just not as cool to be wearing Chanel recently. And the vibe is more minimal bags. It's not all the crazy quilting and the hardware logo. Right, right. It's the Bottega. It's the row. And so Chanel, though, has been doing a big push on this Chanel 25, and all the influencers are wearing it. Ariel Charnis, who I refer to as Charnas, because that's. I didn't know her name's pronounced Charnis. So anyway, Charnos is wearing it. Taylor now is wearing it. It's all over. I think Chanel's really making a big push to come back. Courtney, you have horizon side pockets. They have diaper bag. She was the ugliest bag I've ever seen. So ugly. And I love. First of all, I love Charness. I love Charness too, But I. I don't like the Shape of it. Sorry D. It's getting hor. Like you don't need. Yeah, you don't need to look like it's like a paper. It can be like, like closed down, collapsed. Yeah. It's also. I think it's too much. It's too busy. It's too much hardware. It's not of 2025 everyone. So can I just say I hate the Chanel denim. You hate the Chanel denim bags. This one, it was right. You. I just don't like. I don't like that texture. I think on handbag. I don't know. I don't own enough handbags. Be like I need my a denim one. I don't like the ombre of it all. Yeah, that's too. It's like. Yeah, it's just very busy.
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I guess she made a fashion faux paw and there's a first for everything in this world. So Taylor is not wearing an outfit that truly slapped. Can I just say about our queen here? What we need that that posture bra back on. What posture? I mean I don't have great posture but in this photo I think her posture like I feel like we like. Okay, she's just getting a coffee with her. She's going to brunch with her mom and mother in law. Andrea and Donna were there. Let me actually read part of the party. Wear the posture drop to Mother's Day brunch. Okay. Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift were spotted celebrating Mother's Day together in Philadelphia on Sunday, May 11, 2025, right after I chum up some corn. The couple dined at Tallulah's Garden alongside their mothers, Donna Kelson, Andrea Swift, as well as J and Kylie. Kelsey and Kylie's newborn daughter Finley is marked their first public appearance together since mid March. Jason Kelsey described the gathering as quote, great. Wow. Very revealing. Mr. Revealing, noting that having the whole crew together was special given everyone's busy schedules, emphasized the importance of family time, especially during the off season. The couple has been keeping a low profile since the Kansas City Chiefs super bowl loss in February. Kelsey confirmed in February that he plans to return to the season and is working to be in his best shape following his disappointing super bowl performance. The Mother's Day outing suggests that the couple may be cordially returning. Said Bob Litter. Absolutely. Gradually we're making a photople because did we get a photo of Travis from yesterday? We got a photo, yes. And a Taylor. No. A new photo of Taylor. No. Now it's just okay. Well it's different. Something else in my group chat. Oh yeah, just a photo drop. Please be more careful with something like that because it'll like I just. Yeah, we'll relieve yourself. Guys, I'm not on toilet right now. Travis was pictured going up into Taylor's apartment or, you know, going up the steps to her Tribeca apartment yesterday. Very interesting. Because this crew, it could definitely be having a private lunge with a chef in a beautiful environment, away from the cameras. You know what else is more interesting than the fact that it could be returning to public life? Let me tell you what I think. The fact that these photos are still only drunk up. We are not seeing this woman full body at all, yet she's out in public. Coincidence that just seems. Or conspiracy that would be so risky if she'd have any type of bump and she was out in. In public. I mean, this is another thing I'm curious about with this photo because it's like, it's only of her back. I'm not trying to shame her posture. I literally. Terrible posture. Sure. Sit up straight, bitch. I'm terrible posture. I think that this is. It's just. It's so funny, the photos that actually get leaked because they really do seem like, you know, they're not staged at all. Right. Or do you think this was literally like, this is the photo you can get of her? This looks very sneakily. I think you're reading a lot into her. You're reading only from the neck, especially kind of the waist up. You can't see her front side. No, not at all. You think she's pregnant? I just think that she's either pregnant or engaged. Right. Because, you know, duo said on her podcast, she said Taylor and Travis are better than ever. And that is what she said. She said, I cannot reveal what I know because I don't have permission to, but I've seen it for myself. What is it? What is it? Wow. I mean, for sure. I think. I think engage. I can just imagine those two with the passion. You know, these are red blooded Americans. Okay. I can just imagine them accidentally making a deal. Oh, her little child grow in the garden. Taylor's will. I didn't know. I actually think when you're celebrating on that level, it's not that Lucy Goosey about. You think that maybe. I bet she's already had like her eggs frozen. Yeah. She probably can't accidentally get well. Yeah, I just thought. I don't see that happening in this. And on her type of level, that being said, I would love nothing more. And you know, I saw her take a pregnancy test this morning at urgent care because I guess I said it's routine. I saw a whole life flash before my eyes when I'm now wedded married. Oh, because you were Nervous. You could be pregnant. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh, my gosh. I backed a couple. I was like, can you stay on the phone with me until we know the results of this? I had to go to the bathroom between. I'm so nervous about it. Why would you be so nervous about it? Well, it's just not on the right. I love the timeline. I feel like it's a good time for. Well, then it's like, they're like, right horse and right Taj. See? And I was like. I was like, okay, medium right time. You guys like my diarrhea baby. Can you imagine that story? You can name her Diana. That would be beautiful. Oh, my gosh, I'm crying. There's more Taylor Swift news. Tell me. But I do. Yeah, I know, I know. It's coming up. I do want to talk, actually. Can we take a Taylor Swift break for the Naz 50s? Well, there's nothing I want to say about this brush. Oh, you have something. One. One less thing to say about this bridge. Their relationship has to be better than ever because you would not be doing, you know, lunch or brunch with both sets of in laws together unless it was like, basically endgame. I think that. I think that it's like the family's always hung up together, but I think Mother's Day with both mothers, that's endgame. I would have done that with Ben's family and my family. That's a really good point. That's. That's a very good point. I also think, though, that when you have kids that are that high profile, you kind of just like you. You come to the mountain, you know, the floor doesn't go to you. And so I could see it being a situation where it's like, I will be in Philadelphia if you would like to spend on Thursday together, you know, I'll send the PJ for you by Philadelphia. Who knows? Well, they. That restaurant, though, had that dessert venue, those sweet nappings. Do you think that was by, like. Do you think they changed the menu for Taylor, or do you think that was just already on the menu? That's a great question, because, you know, they were prepped that Taylor. Of course. I bet you they changed it for Taylor, which I wonder if she gets cringed out. And it's just like, can I just be a person? Does she look like a person? You get screenshot. No, but I just feel like for me, like, when I'm just a civilian, you know, and I step out from behind, you don't know. I need you to Put yourself in. Like, what do you need? Like, your psyche is completely different. I know, but I just don't always want to be going into like and. Yeah, but there's also Philadelphia. It's not New York. You know, it's like. Yeah. Anyway, I. I feel like it would be annoying to me and I feel like I. I just love about it. She's passive. I don't actually mean annoyed. I just feel like it probably be so little and like, what's the conversation like when the menu arrives and you're like. And then you have to be like, she bringing up or other people and then like Kylie does. Yeah, the rigmarole. Everyone's there when you. Sweet. We got to do a little song. And Taylor has really a little song in. Right. So anyway. And the bitch is trying to have lunch. I'm not Harry for a second. There's more Taylor Swift news, everyone, but we're going to zinger. We're going to zap. Let's talk about another beautiful one. I made a reel today asking everyone a question about Karen Reid. And I said, I do believe she is hot and I do believe she is innocent in order of importance. You guys, I have two questions about Karen Reed. One supports team Free Karen. Team Karen is hot, which I am on both teams. And then one. I'm so glad you're lady adjured. Karen's off. I think it's a discussion. Maybe the nation could come together. Off. Oh, it's divided. You know, we have never been more divided as a nation since perhaps the Civil War. Okay. And maybe to prevent a civil war, just hold hands as Americans and agree that Tara Reid is completely sexy in so many ways. And before you say don't objectify or whatever, Luigi, can we just have a multiplicary partnership? Also, can we also just say that people who say don't objectify a word positively are annoying because we want it if somehow I'll take it. If someone wants to objectify me in a positive way, baby, record it and send it to. I'll take it. I want to hear it called a fucking compliment. Okay. Anyway, these are like. This is the hearing read question right now for me. The Albert's, the Higgins and ruptures of it all, they don't seem that smart in the way that they have done this. Cover up a legend cover. In my opinion. They did not act in a way that was normal for people who found out their friend was, you know, had passed away on the lawn. They didn't come out of the house. Yeah, they I think also, I think friend is, is a little too far. I don't know that they're a great friend with John. Okay. Right. But still it's. First, nothing. I mean also this person that just died on the lot, I also just from like just natural human behavior. You know, if there's a, if there's a red and white and blue, you know, light going up outside my, my window, I'm going to be looking, I'm going to. Especially if it's happening and I'm in a, you know, small little town and something is going to want to go see what happened. I think if, I mean, we had a situation happen. We were at our dad's law firm where someone was shot at the hotel that we can see from the window. Yeah. We weren't shot. And I mean it was. You couldn't think about anything else. It was all we were focused on. Everyone went outside. Not to like ogle, but once the police were kind of, once they had taken away the person and, and the police were just kind of like mapping things out. Everyone comes outside. The idea that you. The idea that they didn't go outside is truly insane. But especially when you're a member of like the police force or who are, you know. Yes, yes. A million times over. We've all heard it before. Okay, so this is something that is pro Karen's hot hair. It's sure should be free and is innocent. Most of all. Why did this whole ragtag crew, why did none of them text each other, get on a group chat and say omg John o' Keeffe died on the. Can you guys believe it? This is crazy. Why was there not some sort of correspondence amongst this crew? I think there were phone calls. I don't think there were text messages. There was silence. That is strange. Yes. John, John there if something like that happens, you're gonna call, you're gonna text, you're gonna be so like we need to see a text message between Jen McCabe and her sister in law who's married to Brian Albert saying did you hear what happened? Can you believe this? This is insane. This is so sad. Oh, we're just, we're not finding anything in writing. Okay. So please, everyone, free Karen Reid moment. You know, had. Now the question I have that is potentially, you know, going to throw some difficulty for my team the cocktail glass. I just feel like with this crew, they don't seem that smart in the way that they didn't cover this up very well. But do you really think like for me it Just would be so easy for him to leave the cocktail glass in their house and for no one to notice it. So do we really think that he went inside the house? Something happened. They brought his body out and then they saw the cocktail glass and were like, oh, let's put that idle. That doesn't happen at all. Okay. I think something. I think that there's another altercation that happened inside the house. He stumbles out. He's so. So he. Okay, you're telling me he has a contour loss in his hand and he holds it throughout the. Throughout the conference. I believe. I believe that there was some type of altercation where he was not like. I believe that John, you know, walked out in some state of, you know, having been harmed in some way, but was doing a little walk, falls over to his nose and that. And then he dies. And he kept the cocktail glass in his hand during the moment that he. That he was hurt by the dog. Yeah, like, the dog. I think he. Like, he died from hypothermia. I mean. Okay, that. That's my. I never. I guess it's. That. Is it hard for me to believe that it really was this insane cover ever. Like, we killed him in our cup. Like, we're going to perfectly cover up the whole thing. I think, like, things went awry and then they were just like, oh, I'll hope he makes it home. And then potentially somebody discovered that he didn't make it home, or they're laying out there in the cold and now we're just like, we're not going to like, oh, it feels. We're not going to like this. This. This is. Everyone's just going to be quiet. I will come back to this. I find it very hard to believe that something happened to him and he was able to keep the cocktail glass in his hand throughout the whole thing. And then he had the whole cocktail glass in that. Or it wasn't a piece, it was broken, but it was very intact. Yeah. So for me, that kind of more supports the case that if. If she clinched him or something and he just dropped to the ground right there. But that breaks. The mechanics of her hitting him don't really make sense because it's like she. Okay, so she backs out and then she hit him and then he, like, somehow ended up on the other side of the lawn. Like, it's not like he died right next to the driveway where she backed out. I guess with my view of 34 per road is right. This will remain a mystery. I want everyone to weigh in I. I'm confounded. This trial had me gripped. I'm gripped verklempt. Are you reclined? I'm about to shove it up, but I just overcome with emotions so much. Okay. You don't see the person with emotion, but okay. I am okay. And I just can't believe that there's a chance, like she'll get convicted of secretary. I mean, we're unwell at that. We're clunked. We are her clunt at that. We will break her out of prison, though. We won't lead the charge. I mean, there'll be some vigilante shit. Okay. Speaking of Taylor, everyone like the chair. We could do the chair dance outside Carrie Prison like the Keith Ranieri. You just want to turn carried on. You just kind of want to like, why are you taking. Why is your mind in the gutter?
Becca
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What else is going on? Well, Jenner, Taylor Swift wants no part in the events with us. Lawsuits, everyone. Taylor Swift has been subpoenaed as a witness in the ongoing legal dispute between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni concerning the film. It ends with us. In response, Swift's spokesperson issued the following statement. And I think this statement is crazy. I mean, it says everything. And I'm very, like, excited to discuss what it means after you read it. Taylor Swift never set foot on the side of this movie. She was not involved in any casting or creating decisions and she did not score the film. She never saw an edit or made any notes on the film. She did not even see it as with us until weeks after its public release and was traveling around the globe during 2023 and 2024, headlining the biggest tour in history. Given that her involvement was licensing a song for film, which 19 other artists also did, this document subpoena is designed to use Taylor Swift's name to draw public interest by creating tabloid clickbait instead of focusing on facts of the case. I just think the vacuum they're going this hard and saying that she really was not a part of this and that she didn't care. I mean, to say she didn't even bother to watch it till weeks after. I think this shows exactly where their friendship is right now. Their friendship is in tatters. I mean, I have like a timeline during, you know, they haven't even been together this whole year. And Travis unfollowed Ryan. And it's very clear Taylor is pissed that she's being involved. And there was the news reports that she feels like she's been used and that she has been. Well, I forgot what the word was, but it's just another thing she feels used. Additionally, Gigi Hadid's birthday party where she, you know, went public monitoring with Bradley Cooper. Hailey was there, but Blake was off. That is just. So maybe she's kind of out of the girl thing. Oh, she's completely. She's not invited. Okay, here's what I really think about this. I agree on things you really think before. I just want to say more things that I really think on this podcast. A great ultimate title for dorm episodes. What I really think. I feel like the Khaleesi thing is super annoying and it's really bad for Taylor because it makes her look like a bully and it makes her look like someone who. Yeah, Blake can just, you know, set her friend on someone and use her for good or for ill. And Taylor carefully crafted a good girl. Nice image. But I don't think it's a friendship ending type of text. Correct. I don't think it's friendship ending type of text. I also think that if Taylor believed that Blake have been sexually harassed, there's not a chance she wouldn't be by herself or a statement like this would have come from her teeth. The statement would have been, Taylor, you know, was never heavily involved in production of the film, but she remains close to Blake and during this difficult time. And she. And she's, you know, and we'll. We'll have to see the truth come out. And she's a friend. Yes. Yeah. Is Taylor Swift. Team Justin. I mean, I think again, it's like what I was hearing, I was listening to. I was listening to a dissertation on this. I was like, you can totally. And basically they just said, like, the whole reason why Taylor Swift is getting subpoenaed is just to basically show that Blake is a liar. Just to. Just to literally show that Taylor actually was involved in the casting community. And Lily, like, we don't need to know the nitty gritty of Rivers and Taylor's relationship. We just need to know that all the things that Blake said that Taylor was doing were not true. It was just a really established Blake, he's a liar. Which is crazy. Can you imagine just being called, like, Sippy Nichen basically only. Yeah. To meet your final bet. Yeah, that is very interesting because really, just to show that actually Taylor is not involved. And, you know, like, you know, Taylor was so annoyed when she saw that because basically what she saw was, you've just been lying. You've been lying and playing me. That's what I mean. That's what the. That's what the headline was. Taylor Swift feels played. Yeah. And I bet you she even you throwing around my name completely. You've been dropping my name to put pressure on people. Also, you've been strategically having me come over at a certain time to make the impression on someone that I might bully him or, like, do something even worse. I mean, she's so powerful. The Swifty army is so powerful. I do as a blind guy and I'm related to this. Okay. It's a blind that I saw on TikTok to please everyone. I am basically a fictitious story. I hope that perfect. So the blind iron says I just got back from dinner with my girlfriend. Her and her sister went to high school with Blake in high school in Burma. My friend's sister was celebrating a friend's birthday and Britney Mahomes for a private jet for them all. On the private jet Britney said Britney Mahomes said that Blake tried to have an affair Justin but he wasn't interested and shut it down. I think Taylor told Brittany and or Blake told Brittany. Either way Taylor was in the know it goes on was that my friend sister was on the plane. The sister on the plane was texting my friend in real time is Britney. And telling the girl my friend sister didn't add much the commod besides the fact that they went to the same high school and we're on churching together. But I think it was just like part of some casual conversation that was happening on this Wait homes. Oh entire. So what she's saying is that Blake tried to have an affair with Justin that Britney was telling people that that Blake tried to have an affair with Justin and he showed and that this is just like knowledge that Britney Holland knows. Like I get us. I wonder when you're at that level where it's just like this is all just like half, you know, being played out and just like, you know, the courts of you and me podcast. Yeah. That to Brittany is not a big deal and just feel like, you know, she's trying to have a narrowfin. I don't know. This is a blind eye on. I guess it looks really shitty of Taylor to have told that to Britney. No. Yeah. I mean it looks bad for Taylor 100%. You shouldn't be. You shouldn't be disclosing that your friend tried to seduce a man who's not her husband when she has three children. When you're like, yeah, I get that but for me it's a much more chill offense than actually trying to seduce someone and then trying to ruin it when he rejects. I guess I kind of find it hard to believe that Taylor was just so casually tying this Freddie Mahomes basically because Freddie Mahomes doesn't seem trustworthy. Too much to know. Too much to know. Anyway, set up a blind item I have for you. Okay. It's actually so funny because I read that blind item But I forgot where I read that information. I recounted that to the group chat, and I was like, I think someone DM this to me, so take it with a grain of salt. I don't even clock that I thought that was my intel. So funny. I don't know. I don't want to be reductive. Like, you didn't want to be with this theory. Yeah. But I did see those arms. And it ends with us. His arms. Oh, his arms. He was looking good. No, he looks great. He looks real good. And I would not be shocked if a narcissist like Blake likely felt scorned, pissed off her husband, and then went on a war path. Yeah. And once again, if Taylor Swift believed her best friend of 10 years believed her that she was right and that she was being, you know, falsely maligned, she would be riding for her. And I think that if the tailor doesn't buy it, I don't mind it. That's such a good point, because just with your friends, like, all you want to do is help them. Yeah. All you want to do is, like, see them succeed, achieve their dreams. If they're in a horrible place in life, you want to be there for them. You're on the phone with them, you're.
Becca
Holding space for them.
Chandler
Like, that is what being a friend is. It would feel so awful to leave your friend basically out in the cold if they actually have been genuinely sexually harassed. I feel like, honestly, we don't even need to go to trial. Like, we just solved it. No, I know. I. But if you feel like your friend maybe wide sometimes, maybe you didn't fully trust her, but you've been friends forever, and she does, you know, she literally gets herself into this type of a mess and drags and drags into it. You're done. You and Tree Pain have a strategy, and you're done. And Travis is unfollowing him. Tree, Sri, my DMs are open if you want to let me know what's actually happening. Hmu. And I'm all ears. Yeah. 24, 24 hours a day and seven days a week, our DMS are open for you. Thank you, Tree. Thank you so much. Look, looking forward to hearing from you. Okay. Sean Diddy comes. We do need to get into it. His sex trafficking trial has begun. I always know it's going to be the weekend for my wedding, so I've been kind of, like, long awaiting that day and this day. Yeah, quite, you know, the energy shift from your wholesome, very beautiful wedding to this really gruesome trial. So, everyone, I want to walk you through some key developments from day one. Opening statements from the prosecutors alleged that Combs operated a criminal enterprise over two decades, coercing women into participating in drug fueled activities referred to as freak offs involving male escorts. They argued that Combs used his influence and resources to exploit and control his victims. The testimony of Israel Flores first came up as the first witness. He is a former security guard at the Intercontinental Hotel in Los Angeles. And he testified about a 2016 incident where he witnessed Combs assaulting his then girlfriend, Cassie Ventura. Flores described seeing Combs in a towel and socks, giving him a, quote, devilish stare, while Ventura appeared scared and had a, quote, purple eye. Floors also recounted that Combs attempted to bribe him to keep him quiet about the incident. Next, there's the testimony of Daniel Phillip and male escort. Daniel Phillip testified that he was paid tens of thousands of dollars to engage in sexual acts with Cassie Ventura, some of which included. I'm sorry, everyone, do not if your kids are in the car. If kids are in the airshot Time strong this podcast we're gonna give 4, 3, 2, 1. And male escort Daniel Phillip testified that he was paid thousands of dollars to engage in a sexual act with Cassie Ventura and including pee in her mouth. Okay. While Combs watched and sometimes directed the encounters described instances where Combs physically abused Ventura and filmed the sessions. He also mentioned that Combs took down his driver's license information which he received as a threat. Yeah, totally. Okay, so this is the defense's position. Combs defense team acknowledged his involvement in unconventional sexual activities, but argued that all encounters were consensual. They portrayed Combs as a, quote, flawed individual prone to jealous rages, but not guilty of sex trafficking or racketeering. The defense emphasized that the government's case is an overreach into Combs's private life. He just was, you know, he was just very sex positive. He listened to a lot of. Dan Savage was all about all the crazy. I mean, come on, what, how do you reconcile that defense with the video of him kicking and hitting Cassie? Also, though everything was consensual. There was a non consensual, you know, altercation. The times where you meet her like, but the other times, other consensual. I see. Are we supposed to believe that she consented and was into being physically abused? I maybe call me a coral clutch or call me Serena Joy. And yeah, it's a struggle to even talk about it in any type of journalistic way or to share this story in a way of like, are they saying this? Because it's. Change is a lock of light. And so lock and light. Today is the 13th. It's Tuesday, May 13th, as we're recording this. And Cassie Ventura Jayla right now in New York is testifying, so we're gonna hear her recount this. What I love about this is she got $30 million from Diddy and to put his ass in prison. Hell, yeah. And so much of the time, it's like you get the money and then you have to sign that NTA and stay silent. But no, she got that coin. And also she's going to get it behind. And that. That is justice. But sweet, sweet justice.
Becca
Okay.
Chandler
And sending, like, goodbyes and love a hug. I can't believe she's, like, here in New York. That's really crazy. You're such a good vibes. I love just make her laugh. A huge difference.
Scott
Just like, I keep chill.
Chandler
I'm like how I explain you. I feel like just write down there, right down below. You know what? I had a handling jury duty experience. I feel like I'm, you know, I know the energy of those buildings. Maybe we can Melissa what it up and send some lover light and maybe she will feel it. Yeah, I could. Okay. The trial is expected to last approximately eight to 10 weeks, with combs facing multiple serious charges, including racketeering, conspiracy, sex trafficking by force, fraud or coercion, and transportation to engage in prostitution. If convicted, he could face a life sentence. Okay. Okay. Well, can we move on to lighter news? We can. I want to talk about two twin plays, Bill and Jordy. Did you know that she just competed in a beauty pageant? Every time I hear about someone in a beauty pageant in this day and age, it's always a shock. Cree. But she just participated in the 2025 Ms. May competition. I feel like when it comes to beauty pageants, they make sense for a scholarship for, you know, if you're just trying to get your career off the ground and you are actually might need to enter some beauty pageants. Get the word out about our podcast. We. I would not. We could enter beauty pageants to your boobs already for the beauty pageant. Come on. We could enter a beauty pageant to lose and then discuss the experience, and that could potentially get some subscribers. That could be a good ROI on that. No, I find that beauty pageants, if you are not trying to get a scholarship for me, I'm sorry, everyone, they are. They're just kind of like, what All I'm trying to say. Land the plane. She doesn't need this. She doesn't need this. She has $9 million of real estate. That's interesting. Do you want to know more about the real estate? I do. Because you know anything I don't tell you. What do you think? What do you think? What she would have. Okay, if I'm buying $9 million. If. This is a fun game, if I buy 9 million to real estate, I'm getting a 5 million dollar apartment in New York and a 5 million dollar farm. Yeah, well, then I'm gonna climb out of 410 into a 4 million. Oh yeah, 4. Well, I'll do a 5 for the farm, 4 for the apartment in New York. Because, you know, the thing is, is when I'm in the country, I miss the city some of the time. But when I'm in the city, I miss the country and the land all the time. Okay. I'm not totally drafted enough and I love that for you. I know that's about the great portfolio. So let me walk you through her portfolio because it might shock you. And this is why I think she's playing five a bunch of condos she's renting out. Oh my gosh. It's literally just like. And it's almost like it's literally all like. Like the first house I believe was like, is. Is like a cottage in Massachusetts. And then all the others are like multifamily homes. Like condoms. Yeah. Like, you know, three or four apartment condos. Like, like several of them that now add up to this big portfolio. I'm just jealous because when I was your age, I was getting overdraft notifications. No, I know. Like she's, she's 24. We're behind. We're behind. I mean, to have that I actually respect for her after this because I'm like, yeah, she started playing a game that might be frowned upon, but she's doing it right. She's getting that, like that rent those. I don't know that there's probably some real estate word here. It's not like she's buying, you know, a big truck condo in Miami or like sprawling properties that are going to be so much upkeep. She's like, she's doing all right. She's like doing it like somebody who is setting herself up for the future. She is giving the last laugh in all of this. Let me just say Bill Belichick's reputation and legacy is the thing that's actually getting her. And even if this relationship ends tomorrow, she has, she has gotten enough out of this to not work Another day in her life. And I guess I respect on her. I don't think she should have gone live there. I also think it's so flagrant that her boy growing for this was so scary. Did you see that? Yes. Yes. I mean and she was something. And she was. I mean when I was 20, even dating someone who was like 33 was like old old. And the idea of dating someone who was 60, I mean he kind of looks like. It's not like he was the man that she's dating. Look there. I just. They're not giving George Clooney. Totally. They're not giving Silver Fox, like you know the COVID of lower Facelift. Like. Yeah, okay. I just want to know like I would die to talk to her and just be like, what point were you? Like, I think I could just make a lot of money going really old for like five years. Totally. I don't know, it's like your first 10 years in investment banking or something. It's like going to law school because you know what they say about law school is law school is a prize is a pie eating contest where the prize is more pie. Who says that? That's something dad always told me. Basically like if you win the bar, it's a piety contest where you've been studying so much law and then you get to go work in the law. Like she heard that quote. Yeah. She didn't want to go into a pie eating contest where the prize is more piece. What she wanted to do was have a few working years, cash out her working years, have a liquidity event and then go off into the sunset. I just want to know how she enterprise this plan. How she grappled with the scan of a 63 year old at 20. I'll be honest. And just like you know all the things I think too he heard it gives crack. These are not fit men. So body aside Crofty, then the breath. I don't know, I just, I think that knows hair like all of it. All of it. I want to know. I just want to know how she did it. Yeah. Just from a pure list. I want an AP psychology course on Jordan Hudson. She's got to work on that really young job and she a hundred percent and she is reaping the rewards. I mean literally after seeing this real estate portfolio, this situation grosses me out. But I'm more just like, okay, Lena, you're setting yourself up. You're not. Just like she needs to do a master class for all the bitches out there who are dating older Guys, for a handbag. Literally for a handbag. That is. Yeah. Fools. This is a fool's errand. Being a sugar baby. Heather McDonald says it best. Being a sugar baby is not a good idea, everyone. Because a. You're, you know, making your sexuality transactional. Just not good for human spirit. Yeah. I'm just gonna say it. You know, call me Serena Joy. No, it's true. Whatever. But I think that's true. Yeah. And I think that what Heather says is you don't want to do that. Especially during your four minute years. Because these are the years where you're supposed to be like actually building the thing like the career or the skill that's actually going to provide you a life. Like you don't want her looks fake. Yeah. Like you can't really do this forever. But maybe I was wrong and would. What Jordan needs to do is do some sort of master partner of master class. Yeah. For all the sugar. Amy's out there. And maybe they are.
Becca
Yeah.
Chandler
But there is a better way. And she's. She. She needs to be studied. Coursera. But why should I. Maybe should we do a Coursera course and where I, I lose the plot with her, I'm just like, really? This like Miss Maine. Like the brain needs to be studied. We need. We are left. When it comes to Jordan Hudson. We are left with more questions. Questions and answers. That's right. Let's move on. Okay. Meghan and Harry went to Cowboy Carter. Yeah. And I have some thoughts. I have some thoughts too. Wait. Sure. I want to try to set the scene for everyone who hasn't seen the carousel ever. Go look at the carousel because it's quite sweet. It's a photo of Megan in an off the shoulder dress. I can't tell if it's denim. If it's denim. It's a Carolina Herrero off the shoulder denim midi dress. It's like it's form fitting. It's ruched at the sleeve. It's a thin sleeve that's off the shoulder. She looks sexy. Carries in a map. He's in like a Coachella fedora that has. That's embroidered. Do you see this? And she, she posted a photo of it. There's embroidered an American flag, a British flag, the African continent. Archie. Like it was like, like pop. I don't know. It's family. Archie. Lilly, maybe something else. I don't know. But like the names of the kids are on the inside of the hat. He's being maligned for this hat. Why people are saying that it's just like, it's not. There's not a cowboy hat. Should have been. I don't know. He's not very cool. I also just kind of feel like D needs to be in the totally correct apparel. He's British. Like, yeah. Honestly, like, I don't need my man to be, like, dressed up for the cowboy Carter door. I want to be the main event. When going. Can I? Yeah, I want to be the event. One million. And I think she got to the Internet. She had these gorgeous Logan hall jewels on. I was obsessed with her look. People did not like it. I didn't love that dress personally. Yeah, the dress is a little bit boring to me. Like, I was. I wanted a little bit more, but it wasn't. It wasn't terrible. It just. It was a little more stately for my. Yeah. For Beyonce concert. It's true. But this is a woman in her 40s. Like, does she need to be dressing up as a refrigerator? She wants to go to the errands door. Like, let her just. Let her just be a little denim. Cute dress. What I'm just loving about this era that we're in with me is that we are getting more dress down. Content with, you know, the little video of him kissing her on the cheek. Like, it was a little fun, though. Okay. That is what I wanted to say. And what do you want to say? This is what I want. I do not want. And to put it in blood. Likewise words. No whore ASMR videos of the rose garden. Okay. Birds chirping. Yeah. I don't need to see the Montecito grass. I don't need to do the more nature is what I'm hearing. No more. No more of these boring nature stories. Okay? I would like to see her in a cute outfit and some jewels, being a little sexy, being nuzzled with Harry. I want the carousel. This is the perfect content. Yeah. We need more of this. We need more or less of the, you know, now Geo Monacito vibes. Okay. Yes, Megan, call me. A lot more info. I think for tips. Like, she. I think it was really sweet. And this to me was like. This is just a true post from Rose is like, I went to this concert. It wasn't like. I don't know, there was something. It was just very honestly, a little more edge to it. Her caption a little like, you know, and would make for a cute date night or something. You know, it was sweet. Little more. You know, I kind of thought Beyonce's team, though, would have gotten her better seats. Do you notice that? Yeah. I can't tell if like that was like connected to a box. So it was like. Maybe it was like more maybe it's like crowd control, you know, security for good reason. She has a dumb chest. She has a dumb chest. I saw someone saying about it. We're going to see a bunch of headlines now how strong William and Kate are. How much they love going to contents together if we do. I think that will just show us psychopaths though. The thing I think is interesting and someone made this comment in the dms. I'm sorry I didn't reply but I did read it and I thought Aziris do they just said that the second Charlotte and Louis and what's the heir's name? George. George. Royalists listening are going to be like, no, no, it's Charlotte Joel. You're talking about the William and Kate's kids. Once William and Kate's kids get to like upper teenage years, it's just over for Harry and Liam. I'm her sorry. It's just over for Harry and Megan because they just won't be like okay, yeah, like then people really are most fascinated by the young hot royal and like in their 400 years no one's going to care about the uncle in California. Like the six year old uncle, auntie and uncle and Montecito. No. Because they're going to be of so they're going to have been so maligned and the household. William loathes Harry. I don't think I see any reconciliation ever right now. He went for Jane. The king is probably in his final years right now. He has cancer and he has no interest in reconciling with Harry. I think that it is done and I just, I do think that makes me question a little bit like Meghan and Harry really, really can't ride on the fumes of. There has been royalty for forever. Yeah. There needs to be substance behind the brand to build something lasting. And as much as you love being being showered in flower sprinkles on our episode, it's true. I just don't know that the product. The product assortment and offering and honestly supply okay. Their demand fulfillment is really up to the task at hand which is not a lasting brand to support their crazy lifestyle. We're going to stay tuned. We're going to stay tuned. Maybe have some long story. But you know what? Yeah, we're going to stay tuned. I did see this comment. It was like somebody said Harry only leaves the house to sue his relatives or go see Beyonce. That really is true. We basically Only see him like in the UK going to court or on a Beyonce concert. Okay, well, everyone is in a gorgeous day being here with you. Welcome back, Chandler. Welcome back, Mrs. Manning. Thank you. Happy to be here. So happy to have you back. We love you guys. And we'll be back on Friday with the mini for global elites and on Monday with a full episode for global elites. So if you'd like to join, please do. Please do and get two extra episodes of Wealthologist, please. Love you guys. Bye.
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Tucker
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Tucker
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Becca
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Becca
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Pop Apologists - Episode 274: Is Taylor Swift Team Justin?
Release Date: May 14, 2025
Host: Becca and Chandler
Podcast: Pop Apologists by PodcastOne
In Episode 274, titled "Is Taylor Swift Team Justin?", sisters Becca and Chandler delve into the intricate web of celebrity relationships, legal disputes, and public perceptions surrounding some of Hollywood's most talked-about figures. The episode primarily focuses on Taylor Swift's unexpected involvement in the legal drama between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, raising questions about loyalty, friendship, and the impact of public scrutiny on personal relationships.
The episode opens with Chandler addressing a blind item related to Brittany, Blake Lively, and Justin Baldoni. She shares,
"Blake tried to have an affair with Justin, but he wasn't interested and shut it down. I think Taylor told Brittany, and maybe Blake told Brittany. Either way, Taylor was in the know."
— Chandler [00:43]
This revelation sets the stage for the central discussion: Taylor Swift's role and stance in the ongoing feud between her close friend Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Taylor Swift being subpoenaed as a witness in the legal dispute concerning the film "It Ends with Us". Chandler reads a statement from Taylor's spokesperson, emphasizing Swift's minimal involvement:
"Taylor Swift never set foot on the set of this movie. She did not see it until weeks after its public release and was traveling globally during 2023 and 2024, headlining the biggest tour in history."
— Chandler [31:11]
Chandler critiques the statement, suggesting it indicates a strained friendship:
"This shows exactly where their friendship is right now. Their friendship is in tatters."
— Chandler [Approx. 32:00]
The hosts explore various theories about why Taylor Swift was subpoenaed, considering whether it's a strategic move to discredit Justin or to spotlight Blake's alleged actions. Becca adds her perspective:
"I don't think Taylor is going to admit to anything publicly. If she believes Blake was falsely accusing Justin, she might not feel the need to make a public statement."
— Becca [Approx. 35:20]
Chandler counters with thoughts on public perception and fan reactions:
"If Taylor is perceived as 'Team Justin,' it could bolster her image as a loyal friend, but it might also alienate some of her fanbase who support Blake."
— Chandler [Approx. 36:45]
The discussion shifts to the broader implications of this legal entanglement on Taylor Swift's image. Becca emphasizes the delicate balance between friendship and public relations:
"Taylor has meticulously crafted her 'good girl' image. This situation tests whether she's willing to stand by her friends even when it damages her public persona."
— Becca [Approx. 38:00]
Chandler adds:
"The Swifties are incredibly powerful. Their support could sway public opinion significantly, either in favor of Justin or Blake, depending on how the narrative unfolds."
— Chandler [Approx. 39:30]
While the primary focus remains on Taylor Swift, the hosts also touch upon other celebrity news to provide a comprehensive overview of the entertainment landscape:
"If convicted, Diddy could face a life sentence. The prosecution is painting him as someone who exploited his influence to manipulate and control his victims."
— Chandler [Approx. 40:50]
Interspersed with serious discussions, Becca and Chandler share personal stories, including Chandler's own post-wedding experiences and humorous takes on daily life, providing listeners with relatable moments amidst the celebrity gossip.
"I spent the morning in urgent care dealing with some post-wedding stuff. It was exhausting but necessary."
— Chandler [Approx. 02:00]
Towards the end of the episode, the hosts encourage listener interaction, inviting them to share their opinions on whether Taylor Swift is genuinely supporting Justin or if there's more beneath the surface. They emphasize the importance of community perspectives in unraveling complex celebrity dynamics.
"We're all ears if you want to let us know what's actually happening. Your insights are invaluable."
— Chandler [Approx. 38:38]
Episode 274 of Pop Apologists offers an in-depth exploration of the tangled relationships and legal issues surrounding Taylor Swift, Blake Lively, and Justin Baldoni. Through thoughtful analysis, personal anecdotes, and engaging discussions, Becca and Chandler provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of the events, encouraging them to ponder the true nature of celebrity friendships and the impact of public scrutiny.
Notable Quotes:
"Blake tried to have an affair with Justin, but he wasn't interested and shut it down. I think Taylor told Brittany, and maybe Blake told Brittany. Either way, Taylor was in the know."
— Chandler [00:43]
"Taylor Swift never set foot on the set of this movie. She did not see it until weeks after its public release and was traveling globally during 2023 and 2024, headlining the biggest tour in history."
— Chandler [31:11]
"If convicted, Diddy could face a life sentence. The prosecution is painting him as someone who exploited his influence to manipulate and control his victims."
— Chandler [Approx. 40:50]
"We're all ears if you want to let us know what's actually happening. Your insights are invaluable."
— Chandler [Approx. 38:38]
This episode is a must-listen for fans eager to understand the behind-the-scenes dynamics of their favorite celebrities and the ripple effects of legal disputes on personal relationships and public personas.