B (2:09)

I actually. Man, I want to share something that I can't share. Maybe I'll share it on the Patreon, but a sound. A sound interruption I'm having with my everyday life and I need the listeners. Wayne, I'm going to save it for the Patreon.

A (2:20)

Do you have some, like, really sensual neighbors? New neighbors?

B (2:25)

No, no, no, no. It has nothing to do with sex. With sex. But we'll. I want to talk about it with the global elites because I think I do need some. Like, I want to hear their thoughts, and I don't want to cast this wide of a net with. With my advice. So anyway, back to your solution for our music.

A (2:41)

Okay, here is what I believe could be the new pop apologist. Intermusic. Everyone take a seat, buckle up and listen.

B (3:02)

Oh, my gosh. Not real. Oh, God. We keep it keen. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, it slaps. I went on a full journey with that song.

A (3:34)

Yeah, the lyrics I think we could work on. I mean, loud. We keep it keen here.

B (3:41)

Keen one. No one's ever called me keen before, so I don't think I can ever use that.

A (3:45)

This is actually a quote from. This is pulled from a quote from Paul Newman when he was listening to our show. He said, those ladies, they keep it keen.

B (3:56)

They're quite keen.

A (3:59)

Oh, exactly. Those keen young women and their program.

B (4:03)

How much did you pay? Or did you get a free trial with some type of AI music subscription? How much did that cost the business?

A (4:10)

Kagan is making AI music for every situation in his life right now. So he created this. Yeah, like, wait, there's been some.

B (4:18)

Oh, my gosh. That's hilarious.

A (4:20)

Yeah, there's been like a family tragedy. They got a custom song. There has been what?

B (4:26)

Like, I want to hear all of these. Wait, can you play any of the other ones?

A (4:30)

Not at this moment.

B (4:31)

Family tragedy. And there's a pop song for it.

A (4:35)

Oh, yeah. Kagan created it. And I watched his family group chat light up with very nice messages. Humoring this, what I thought was kind of a tone deaf thing to send. But you know what? I think they're just happy he's saying anything at all.

B (4:54)

Totally. It's like, would you rather have a tone deaf response or just like crickets?

A (4:58)

Exactly.

B (5:00)

Oh, my gosh. So Kagan is literally putting his shoulder to the wheel and helping the family business by creating a bespoke music track.

A (5:09)

Yeah, well, he is enemy number one of our current intro music. And he explained how terrible it sounded, so he created this new intro music. It's a good start and I think that we are going to nail it eventually. But it is a music crisis, you know, Chandler, who is not in crisis right now?

B (5:28)

I don't know. I hope nobody we know isn't is in crisis.

A (5:31)

No. Who's not in crisis? Is all of the Swifties. Are all of the Swifties.

B (5:36)

Oh, my God.

A (5:37)

Excuse me.

B (5:38)

I don't know. I feel like I have. I'm in an afterglow. But it's just a pre glow right now. This whole week Like, I mean, one day more, two days more.

A (5:47)

I am so excited. I cannot even believe we have 12 new Taylor tracks dropping in. T minus, I don't know, 72 plus 24 hours. I'm not sure what that is. Oh, no. 48 hours.

B (6:01)

48 hours, Lauren. Okay. And if I remember right, we were surprised by ttpd. Correct? Like that was like it was a surprise when that. Or either that or it was a midnight or it was a total surprise. Like I'm just so used to being surprised by the album release date.

A (6:18)

No, we were not surprised. She did not drop ttpd. Remember, she announced it at. What was it, the Grammys. She announced.

B (6:26)

Was it midnight? Anyway, I just. I believe we were surprise albums. Yeah, yeah, I'm just, I'm used to surprise albums. So I think to be so geared up and you know, actually I think you kind of ruined TTPD launch for me because of your own lack of self control and you know, listening to the leaks. But so that that launch was kind of a washroom. But the fact that we know that it's coming on Friday or Thursday at midnight, I mean, we just, we just have to make it through the next 48 hours in one piece.

A (6:54)

Okay, Absolutely.

B (6:56)

Like it doesn't matter. And actually nothing, nothing is going to get in the way of me having an amazing week in weekend and honestly the rest of my life, because I have new music from Taylor Swift coming in two days.

A (7:06)

I will say I did peep one leaked lyric.

B (7:10)

Oh my gosh. I don't want to hear it. I don't want you to say anything right now. I don't want you to shut your mouth.

A (7:17)

It was an accident. It just came across.

B (7:20)

Yeah, but here you are bringing, here, you are literally bringing your mud. Like bringing the, the gossip and the mud that you are steeped in right now, you're bringing it to the bill. To the clean pop apologists who just literally want to go into Friday with a, you know, with, with a clean slate. They just want to be able to enjoy the music.

A (7:37)

So just.

B (7:38)

And I can. We can tell by your tone of voice and you know how you ruined it last time because you sent one emoji in the group chat saying, I can't wait to talk about the songs. I think it was like, it was, it was not a neutral emoji. I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was not neutral. And just one. That one emoji did me in. So just shut up.

A (7:55)

I mean. Okay, you know what? Actually, as we're discussing, you know, Things we don't want to have happen. Like the album be ruined for us by the leaks. I want to talk to you about something that the week I am compiling, the weak will.

B (8:09)

What are you compiling? Like, your weak will when it came to TTPD ruined it for the rest of us. Like your inability to not listen to the leaks.

A (8:17)

Why don't we just let some sleeping dogs lie for a second and. Okay. Wow.

B (8:24)

Just when you get to say I'm the bigger swifty.

A (8:27)

Did you cancel therapy? Is it getting too expensive?

B (8:30)

I actually am off this month. I don't know if you can tell, but I'm off this month because I don't really have health insurance right now. Next month, I'll have health insurance.

A (8:39)

Tbh. I canceled therapy for myself.

B (8:41)

You.

A (8:42)

Like, in perpetuity, Kind of. Yeah. But we can talk about. You don't do sisters.

B (8:48)

You do not. I. I think that's a huge mistake on your part.

A (8:53)

You're like, I actually really need you to stay in therapy, girl.

B (8:57)

I need you to be in therapy. I need you to be in that.

A (9:00)

I mean, here's what I'll say. The problem was that it would just be, like, a totally fine Monday, and then I would just be staring down the barrel of, oh, in 20 minutes. I got to start drudging up stuff from the past. I don't want to. I don't want to do it.

B (9:16)

You should schedule it for, I think, at the end of the week when you kind of have had a little.

A (9:19)

Bit more delightful weekend.

B (9:23)

No, I think it's, like, cleansing for the weekend. I do therapy is, I think, on Thursdays or Fridays are kind of the days that I prefer. Mondays are hard. Mondays are hard because they're just. It's a hard day already.

A (9:33)

Yeah. The other problem is that my therapist. God lover. But she kind of would just, like. She just would start the session, and she would just kind of look at me, and I was almost like I was. I led. And I kind of want to be led. I want to be more kind of interviewed. I would like them to be creating some sort of, like, psychic map of everything I have going on for you. And I don't. I don't really want to, like, be leading the session. Cause it's just a little tiring, you know?

B (10:00)

Yeah, totally. Well, I think two things. First of all, I think, you know, it won't always be so deep and heavy. Like, I think just because you've never really done therapy before, maybe there's a bit more to talk about. Maybe you have more to work through, but that won't always be like that. And I think, also, I don't do it every week. I think you can do it every two weeks, every three weeks. Like, it doesn't need to be every seven days on the. On the dot for it to be helpful and working. So that's the first thing I'm gonna say. And then the second thing is, why don't you say to her, you know, I don't really know how this goes, but I don't always. I would, like, prefer if you kind of were, you know, giving me prompts or things you want me to, like, think about so that we can talk about it for the next week. You can give feedback.

A (10:41)

That's true.

B (10:42)

You're paying for this.

A (10:43)

That's true. I do think it was kind of more her style, though, because even the first session, it wasn't like, oh, this is an intake session. I'm just gonna learn a lot about you. It was. Was like, hi. What would you like to talk about? It's a lot of pressure anyway, for sure.

B (10:57)

Well, I just would like you to stick with it. And that's. That is just for your own sake. That's a mandatory for me. That's. That's going to go into our operating agreement.

A (11:06)

Great. Anyway, but let's move on. Let's move on to the world of celebrity this week because so much has happened. Actually, a lot has gone down over the weekend. The are celebrities that have come together in the formal bonds of matrimony, you know, under the eyes of God and. And the law.

B (11:26)

It's like, what's the point?

A (11:27)

There are celebrities who have decided to hand in their resignation letters. Okay. And have formally filed for divorce. So should we start with the happy or should we start with the sad?

B (11:40)

Let's start with the happy, and then let's. Let's end on the sad, because I think that's kind of indicative of where I'm at personally.

A (11:47)

Okay, which means what? You are starting every day happy and going to sleep sad. What does that mean?

B (11:53)

No, I mean, I'm steeped in the sadness right now, so let's. While I have the most energy, let's fake it. Talk about, like, you know, the promise of love.

A (12:01)

You guys. Selena and Benny Blanco are officially married. Okay, so the weekend affair kicked off with a rehearsal dinner on Friday evening at a mansion in the private community of Hope Ranch in Santa Barbara county, nestled among the foothills of the Santa Inez Mountains. The cere reportedly took place at the lush Seacrest Nursery in front of 170 of the couple's family and friends. Large white tents were erected at the site for eating, dancing, and celebrating through the. Through the night. The bride wore a custom hand draped halter neck satin dress with embroidery, while the groom opted for a black tuxedo. Both were dressed by Ralph Lauren. I first saw the photos, as I believe everyone did, because Selena posted them on her actual wedding night. And I mean, I have so many thoughts on these photos, but I'm dying to hear yours first.

B (12:54)

I mean, I want to hear. I think let's hear yours first because I think we're going to be on the same page. I love the photos.

A (13:00)

Yeah, I mean, first of all, I will say her posting the photos, it actually really reminded me of Stassi Schroeder's wedding because Stassi Schroeder made a big point to get the photos and then post them the actual day because the last thing she said she wanted was basically like a tabloid posting her wedding looks, then going up on Instagram. And so she want to be the first to be. She wanted to be the first one to like hard launch her wedding photos. And I'm sure Selena had a similar feeling, right. Like it's 170 people. I'm sure there's some plus ones there that maybe could be questionable, who knows? And she probably just wanted to control as much of what got out as possible and honestly have like all of the joy focused on on her account versus like tmz, whatever they could post.

B (13:55)

Right.

A (13:55)

That said, I. I just feel like there's so much to say about these photos. First of all, I absolutely love the dreamy aesthetic. I think that it's just like so whimsical. There's just something really, really kind of ethereal about them.

B (14:11)

Yes.

A (14:11)

But then beyond that, there's a real stripped down quality to them. This really, it looks like backyard nuptials.

B (14:18)

I didn't know that it was at like this massive nursery. I literally thought it was in the backyard of some like, beautiful house.

A (14:24)

I mean, even the very diminutive bouquet, kind of simple bouquet. I think it speaks a little bit to the vibe Selena was leaning into, which is understated. And honestly like the wholesomeness and realness of their love and it just, it really, my heart like burst when I saw these photos. I just think they're absolutely beautiful.

B (14:49)

I saw a really good reel about how basically this person is a hairstylist and they said the. The more your hair on your wedding day actually looks like the way you wear your Hair pretty regularly. Like, the better it's going to suit you, basically.

A (15:05)

The longer the marriage and the longer the marriage.

B (15:08)

And, you know, let's look back at Nicole Kidman's wedding photos and let's take a look, everybody. No, but I. And I just thought that this was. They were talking about Selena's look, and I feel like that was so true. Like, I loved her hair, and it looked. It was like, very, like, 70s, just, like, luscious but simple and gorgeous and not. I don't know. I just. I love her. Loved her styling. Yeah. Yes, yes. With, like, the wave, like, in, like, in the front and just. But just, like, very simple, glossy. And I. I don't know. I just. I thought she looked spectacular. And I like that, like, all these photos, like, Benny is kind of an afterthought, which is the way it should be. Like, he's either in the background or it's, like, not the best photo of him. I love it. I love it.

A (15:52)

Yeah, there. I mean, I think there's something about both this dump, this photo. I hate calling it that. This carousel and Benny's post. There's something that's just a little bit B roll about all of it that also feels really kind of cute. It's just very endearing.

B (16:07)

Yeah, agree.

A (16:07)

Versus the big, very glam photo of her where it's just her and it's like, you know, the huge dress, and it's just all very, like, staged and kind of, like, severe.

B (16:18)

A little, like, stiff.

A (16:20)

Yeah. We got tight, cropped, like, emotional, really beautiful pictures.

B (16:26)

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A (18:56)

Oh, I mean, I actually have a little bit of it because some, some of it leaked.

B (18:59)

So how did you find it? Oh my gosh.

A (19:01)

I know. It's already.

B (19:02)

Actually, this is the time for the leaks. This is the time for the leaks. I want to hear these links. Okay.

A (19:06)

Do you want me to share it right now?

B (19:08)

Please take it away.

A (19:10)

Okay, so Taylor apparently said that Cell shows her cell. Cell finally came to the realization, I must not be saying that, right? Because that just sounds like so this.

B (19:20)

Just feels so weird. Silly, silly, silly.

A (19:23)

Seal. Maybe she calls her a seal.

B (19:25)

Sell, sell, sell. No, that's worse. That's the same thing I Can't.

A (19:29)

That's what I said.

B (19:30)

There's no way she's called. She calls her that. Wait, that's crazy.

A (19:34)

Okay. Anyway, Taylor reportedly said, self.

B (19:41)

That's not a nickname.

A (19:43)

Self.

B (19:45)

Just. Just say Selena.

A (19:46)

Selena. Selena finally came to realization. To the realization that she was just fine with who she was and concentrated on being just her. And then she fell in love with Benny. She called the couple a perfect pair and revealed that in all the years she has known Selena, she has never seen her so happy. She referenced always having Selena's back and how they are sisters and that while Selena may see Taylor as the big sister, Taylor sees Selena as teaching her so much. She also joked in the speech that Selena beat her to the altar. But at least they both have found the love. The loves of their wives. Tay said Cell and Benny, I've got thoughts. It isn't luck that they found each other. It's love. What are your thoughts? I can already tell by your tone of voice.

B (20:27)

Why did she have to bring up herself and her finding the love of her life? I think that's toast.

A (20:33)

I think that's totally cute. And fine. Everyone knows about Taylor's relationship. I think it's cute. Both in this moment, even though you beat me to the altar.

B (20:43)

Can you imagine though, like, okay, for example, I had been dating Ben for a year or about a year when we. When we. When I had gave your toast at your wedding. Can you imagine if I brought up my, like, I found the love of my life and so have you. Wouldn't that have been a little bit weird? I'm not saying. I'm not trying to vilify Taylor. I'm just. That is sticking out to me a.

A (21:01)

Little bit, I guess. She did tell a story about her and Travis in the Sweet.

B (21:06)

You're kidding. You're fucking kidding me. I mean, is it. Is it about Benny and Cell?

A (21:12)

No, it. Cell and Benny are not mentioned. I guess it has something to do with, like an album variant she started.

B (21:17)

No, I was coming up with the tiny bug collection.

A (21:26)

There is a 180 unit run of a special release vinyl collection. Target at Target. I'm gonna give the code to. To all of you. You know, it's gonna be available for three minutes. Everyone wants to get out their phones.

B (21:43)

Okay, so you're kidding about the story about her and Travis?

A (21:46)

I am joking about that. You know, I'll be honest. I'm reading this. It all sounds very generic to me. I'm wondering. I just made this up.

B (21:56)

Because I was. I was honestly pretty Let down by this. Like, this is the greatest songwriter of our time. And she's like, it's not luck. It's love. Like, what? I heard that on, like, 18 different wedding toes.

A (22:09)

And also just that she's never seen her so happy. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. It's all very kind of platitude. Ish.

B (22:16)

Now that we can say that the speech is fake, when she opens up by talking about how Selena, like, didn't know who she was, but then she decided she loved herself enough. You were so insecure, and then you finally decided that you like yourself, it's.

A (22:30)

Kind of revealing the bride to be quite unstable. It's like, finally, when it was Selena's mental health crisis had come to a conclusion, she was able to find the love of her life.

B (22:43)

And then she brings up her and Travis. She's like. And we both found, like, what? Okay. I'm so glad we.

A (22:49)

We. We meet. Myth busted. That.

B (22:52)

Yeah. Okay, so that's. That's a fake leak. Once again, showing her ass. I would kill to hear the speech. The real speech, not the fake speech.

A (23:04)

Yeah, no, absolutely. Oh, my gosh. And I will say I'm impressed. They must have had metal detectors, and, like, people had to put their phones. Oh, my gosh.

B (23:12)

There's no way they had metal detectors. Like, how do you make a metal detector cute at a wedding? I mean, I believe putting away their phones, but metal detectors is crazy.

A (23:24)

No, I think that's what people had to go through to go into Paris Hilton's wedding. It was, like, part of that Paris Hilton Netflix series. Like, it's. It's very common at a Mindy Weiss huge tented event. Oh. Can I actually share with you a huge revelation I had? This was a divine revelation. I realized why celebrities do these, like, tented weddings, because I was like, you know, the aesthetic, to me, it's actually never that great. Like, in the photos when you can just see all these, like, it's like, basically everything is in front of white curtains, and I'm just, like, not a big fan. It's. Honestly, it must be because of paparazzi. Like, it's all to provide security and privacy, which is super sad, actually.

B (24:06)

Yeah, it is sad. Wait, quick pause, will you? And I just got a text with some of my friends.

A (24:12)

Okay.

B (24:13)

Did you see this message from Joe Peacock? It's just the eyes emoji, which I think means that he wants to talk about leaks.

A (24:19)

Oh, hell. I mean, hell, no. I don't want to talk about leaks.

B (24:23)

Anyway, we're going to get to that later. But I'm just telling you, the temptations are already starting, and you better freaking get it together. Okay, back to the wedding. Ed Sheeran also gave a toast at the wedding, which I thought was kind of interesting. I didn't realize that they were that close, but, like, yeah, I didn't either. I kind of forget about Ed Sheeran.

A (24:41)

You know, honestly, it. Actually, I'm so glad you said that, because I personally, like, Ed Sheeran is very large. He's a huge. He is. He has, like, an empire, but to me, it's not one I'm privy to or hear much from, but I think he's, like, a major, major recording artist. Is this. Does this sound so stupid? Just these words coming out of my mouth.

B (25:02)

I think he's a major, major recording artist. Never referred to any musician as a major recording artist before, ever in the history of this podcast.

A (25:09)

I think he sells out stadiums.

B (25:12)

Yes, I think he does.

A (25:14)

Surprising to me.

B (25:15)

I mean, he is.

A (25:15)

He.

B (25:16)

He kind of always has a top song.

A (25:18)

He kind of falls into the, like, the Charlie Pluth category to me.

B (25:24)

But, like, he's actually a big artist.

A (25:26)

Yeah, he's. He's a major, major artist. As I said, Chandler, he's a major.

B (25:30)

Recording artist working with a major record company affiliate.

A (25:34)

I believe he has a Spotify. Okay. One thing. Someone said, they were like, oh, Taylor calling so much attention to herself when she didn't. When she basically got off her PJ and there were umbrellas hiding her. Didn't you think that was just to not call attention to herself? Like, yeah, she doesn't want photos of her getting out, and it's like, a bunch of Taylor Swift headlines leading up to Selena's wedding.

B (25:58)

Absolutely. I completely disagree with that take. I don't think that was, like, too.

A (26:02)

Agreed.

B (26:03)

I think that was, like. To literally just be like. Like, like her arriving at Jack and Margaret's, you know?

A (26:08)

Yeah.

B (26:09)

I mean, even though that went. That went terribly, but, like, I think this was, like. I mean, arriving with black umbrellas is not really a headline, but this is what she's wearing. This is what she looks like. This is Travis with her? Is Travis not with her. Right.

A (26:23)

Exactly. It's just like, we would have honestly dined out on those pictures for days. So she was trying to keep her bestie in the spotlight, and it looks.

B (26:32)

Like Travis was not there.

A (26:34)

Yeah, I must have. He must have had some, like, football conflict is my guess.

B (26:38)

Right. Right.

A (26:39)

Should we move on? Anything else on the Selena and Benny nuptials that you want to get into. I loved her second dress. Whatever the dress was that he posted, I was obsessed with. Obsessed with. I thought it was so pretty.

B (26:50)

So. Well, I guess. One little thing that's interesting. Taylor and Travis were both in polo Ralph Lauren. They got engaged, right? And polo Ralph Lauren also dressed Selena, Cell and Benny. They were both in full polo.

A (27:02)

Full like, same. I like our little Ralph Lauren resurgence. This is good.

B (27:06)

I know, I know. She had four looks, too.

A (27:10)

Well, I hope we see more photos. That is my wish. But let's move on because we do have more Taylor news that I do think we need to get to.

B (27:19)

Okay, let's go.

A (27:20)

So everyone, there was so much clowning. It was like. And honestly, we did have a lot of Super Bowl Easter eggs in the podcast interview. But Taylor Swift is reportedly not performing at the Super Bowl. Bad bunny is. And it is being also reported that she walked away from an offer to play. Insiders familiar with the negotiation who explained what went wrong said that Taylor expected to be paid for her performance. But the NFL does not halftime performers. They expect the biggest artists in the world to do it for exposure. Taylor Swift doesn't need exposure. She just wanted a deal that reflected her value. Apparently there were other terms. So she also wanted to own the rights to the performance. This was declined. And I guess she. She also wanted to promote, like, some of her projects during ads during the super bowl, and that was also declined. And so Taylor declined the invitation.

B (28:17)

How do you feel about this?

A (28:19)

I personally think this is just such a wonderful f you to the patriarchy. I'm sure she loved nothing more than hitting the send button on the email that was like, thanks, but no thanks. Like, I actually don't need a bunch of guys to give me any sort of platform. Like, I don't need this whatsoever. I don't need the stress of this. Also, I'm not going to pay my band, my all my people, my dancers, the people who wrote all the lighting. I'm not going to pay to perform at the Super Bowl. I'm not going to work the super bowl, bitches, so that you guys can profit. Like, I just. I love it so much.

B (28:55)

You know, I was thinking that if she was going to play the super bowl, like, back when the podcast was released, and that really seemed, like, inevitable. I was just like, ugh, this is just going to turn up the Taylor hate. Because people are just going to be like, she's everywhere. She's just like, she's such an industry plant. You know, everyone, Corporations just, like, want her so that they get more, like, eyes on their whatever, you know, because you know how people say that about her and Travis. That, like, it was. It was like. And so I was not very excited for all of that ire. And now that she's not doing it, I'm kind of relieved for her. I also think that she doesn't really need to do this. She doesn't really need this, like, this huge, pressurized event to, like, prove that she's a megastar. She's already proven it, baby.

A (29:37)

No, she doesn't need this whatsoever. And the other thing I will say is, like, the NFL audience who was at the arena for the halftime show, it's not totally Taylor Swift's audience. And I just kind of almost also wonder how a performance by Taylor Swift would have really just kind of how it would have been received by a bunch of, like, a lot of boomer dads. I mean, so candid.

B (30:05)

To be honest, though, like, a lot of the super bowl performers are like, they're always just whoever's hot at the moment, they're always a young performer, basically. That's true. You know, it's not like it's. What's it called?

A (30:14)

There's just a specific ire from the. As she alluded to, from the Bradson shots, though, towards her.

B (30:20)

I agreed totally. And that's what I was like. That's what I was, you know, shuddering to think about. But, like, it's not like the performance at the super bowl is always, you know, Led Zeppelin revival band or whatever.

A (30:30)

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B (32:15)

I'm happy that she's declining. She knows her worth. And so does Sel. Finally.

A (32:21)

What's that? So to sell.

B (32:24)

So does Sel, her best friend.

A (32:25)

Oh, so psyched.

B (32:26)

Finally.

A (32:29)

So does Cell knows her worth. Yeah, yeah. Cell finally saw her own value. And sure, you know, her. Her self esteem wasn't in complete tatters. And that's when she found Benny. That's exactly the speech you want at your wedding. Like, we're being reminded of your lowest low.

B (32:48)

Literally, the fact that you're like, chronically insecure. Like we all are. I'm sure. Okay, one actual last thing about Selena's wedding.

A (32:56)

Sorry, I just have to say, if you at my wedding were like, after years of insecurity, Lauren finally learned to love herself and then she. I would just be like, are you serious?

B (33:08)

This is why when you read that speech, I was like, let's talk about this.

A (33:13)

Okay, I'm so glad you called it into question. What were you gonna say about Selena's wedding?

B (33:19)

Basically, Justin Bieber posted something on the same day with. With his song I Do, which is a song I actually quite like, which is like all about his marriage to Haley. And the fans were just. Or I don't even know if we would say the fans, but just like the trolls were commenting about how, bro, she finally found peace or, you know, you're obsessed. And it's just. I mean, that trolling behavior when it comes to the Selena and the Justin camp is. It's so intense. Like, I. I would just have my comments turned off forever because it's just like.

A (33:50)

Yeah, but don't you think?

B (33:51)

Unbelievable.

A (33:52)

Okay, well, first of all, Justin Bieber, also major, major recording artist, consult stadiums. I'm not sure if you know. But the other thing is. I'm sorry, the night of her wedding, he posts on Instagram with the song I do. That's a little weird. That's a little.

B (34:12)

I didn't think it was weird. I mean, it's from his, like, latest album and he's. I mean, the guy is posting whenever he pleases. There's no rhyme or reason to it.

A (34:19)

He's a prolific Instagrammer. Like, I. I thought this post had been deleted, but I didn't realize you just have to scroll, like, very far back. Because he posts, like, four to hard grid posts a day.

B (34:31)

No, he is posting all the time, which is why this doesn't actually have that much merit to it. It's actually. It's. It's concerning how much he posts.

A (34:40)

Yeah. Well, I personally think it's weird. I'm just gonna say that I think the night that Selena Gomez, his most famous ex, is getting married, posting photos to the song I do is weird. And I. If. If Kagan and I were in the same position, okay, if I was Haley, I would be like, what are you doing? This is so strange.

B (35:00)

Even maybe I guess, have the wherewithal to realize that this is gonna send your, you know, your trolls into a tizzy.

A (35:06)

Yeah, exactly. You're. You're literally inviting the trolls at that point, and you're seeming caught up for sure.

B (35:13)

Yeah, that's. That's fair.

A (35:16)

Okay, this article came out, everyone. Ryan Reynolds reels shocking insult he hurled at Blake Lively over call from a list celebrity. So, just going to dig into this a little bit. If you. If you're okay with that, Sharon, I would love it.

B (35:31)

Please.

A (35:32)

Okay. So Ryan shed light on a tense moment with white Blake Lively by revealing a private exchange that took place between the pair over work. So he was speaking to an audience at the State theater, New New Jersey in New Brunswick on September 25, when he mentioned how difficult, difficult it was to get Bill Murray to take part in the Colin Hakes directed documentary and how it led to a tense moment in his marriage. So Ryan joked that there could have been a separate documentary about trying to get an interview with Bill because he was just so hard to get a hold of. Eventually, he got his number from a friend of a friend of a friend and joked that Bill Murray's voicemail is a Greek shipping company. He told the audience he left the voicemail, hey, Bill, Ryan Reynolds here. I'm making a documentary about John Candy. I'm just hoping that I could pick your brain. I'll come to you. I'll do whatever it takes. Continuing the story, Ryan shared. Funny. I'm on my way to some gala thing and I rarely go to a fancy tuxedo event. I'm there with my wife, and I'm about to walk in and my phone buzzes and I look at it. It says Bill Murray and I go, Bill Murray, lowering his voice as if he was reenacting, whispering to Blake Lively, who continued. She goes, we have to go in, and I'm like you. He revealed, spilling the derogatory insult he said to his wife. The audience erupted in laughter, and Ryan Reynolds continued the story of his initial phone call with Bill Murray. Chandler, do you consider this to be a shocking insult hurled at Blake Lively?

B (36:51)

I'm getting my gavel out so I can rule on this, please. Divorce. Divorce is inevitable. No, I mean, the press loves to pick up on anything with these two. I think this is just like, their humor. I hate saying that. I. I don't really joke like this with Ben, but I don't think this is, like, he hates his wife so much, which is why he said this, why he said f you.

A (37:13)

No, I mean, I have never even jokingly said f you to my husband. And he has likewise offered the same courtesy. But this does not seem in any way like it was actually said with any sort of, you know, malice of any kind. So this is a nothing burger, and I would like Daily Mail to engage in some real journalism, please. Okay. With these two. That's what I would really like.

B (37:37)

I know, I know. I just have to continue on with this article because he's just. Ryan Reynolds is just so Ryan Reynolds. And I. I find all of his humor to be so annoying now. But he goes on to say that, like, at one point, he was on the phone with Bill Murray, who said he would, like, think about it and get back to him. And then, like, his son started crawling on him, or. Yeah, his son started, like, crawling all over him. And then he asked his son to ask Bill to do the documentary. And then he said, if you say no to a child like that, I don't know what kind of monster you are.

A (38:05)

Okay, I hate myself for saying this, but I kind of think that's kind of cute.

B (38:08)

I mean, it just. It's giving the. The text about, like, I will get your name inscribed on my insert body part that I can't remember. That's really gross. It's like, by your butthole having his.

A (38:20)

Kid say, will you do the documentary? And just, like, a kid voice. That's kind of cute.

B (38:24)

I don't know. I don't think. I think. Well, I just think it's him being like, if you say no to a child like that, I don't know what kind of monster you are. It's just. Look, I don't like the guy.

A (38:34)

Yeah, I can tell. I can tell. I don't think it's as bad as the scrotum comment to Justin Baldoni. I'm gonna go on the record and say that. But, Chan, we can agree to disagree as sisters.

B (38:44)

Thank you.

A (38:45)

You're welcome, sisters and co hosts.

B (38:48)

Okay, let's talk about Sister Wives. Lauren, you and I were not planning on diving headfirst into the show this season, you know, season 20. But I saw a clip that had me. Left me speechless, if you will, and we decided to take the plunge and jump back into the show that you and I have both watched in the past. We haven't watched every single season, but we're back for season 20.

A (39:11)

I gotta say, I have not been disappointed by my decision to tune back in. The first episode is a banger. It is so good. And Kody Brown continues to be riveting television. I'm just gonna. I'm gonna say that for on the.

B (39:24)

Record, banger is an interesting word to use for this cast, for this. For this particular reality TV show, because, you know, it's set in a few different places in the world. None of them, I will say, are that visually arresting. No, but the, you know, the subject matter is certainly arresting. And, you know, when I watched this, I actually watched the episode twice because I just didn't. I didn't want to miss anything because I haven't seen these women on my screen in a long time. You know, I would watch clips as they would come up, like, you know, in reels, but I hadn't. I hadn't sat with Christine, Janelle, Robyn, Mary for a while.

A (40:02)

Probably felt good to be back.

B (40:04)

It absolutely did. And you know what I see here when I. When I watch this show, when I watch the episode twice over, I see three free women and I see one prisoner.

A (40:15)

I mean, it is amazing to watch the light having returned to Mary and Christine's eyes. Janelle and.

B (40:24)

And Janelle.

A (40:25)

Janelle as well, actually. I will say Janelle. I. I don't know. It's. Janelle is so stoic. Like, she's obviously gone through one of the hardest things a parent could go through, but she's so, like, unflappable and. And stoic. It's really impressive. She's clearly an extremely private person, but, yeah, it's. It is. I will say it is interesting when you compare the energy of Mary, Janelle, and Christine to that of Robin.

B (40:51)

It's like three women have a new lease on life, and one is just stuck looking at the same two pieces of hair forever for the rest of hers.

A (41:00)

I mean, when Robin Was at the dinner with Cody at the end.

B (41:06)

Okay, let's just go there. Let's just start there, baby. I mean, I think that's that. Because that's a clip that I saw that had me reeling, that. That had me saying, I need to watch this show.

A (41:16)

Okay. I feel like I should just play a little bit of it for our listeners and then we can discuss.

B (41:22)

And I just want to say, like, I at first thought, okay, this clip, maybe it's taken out of context. You know, there's something else is happening in the conversation, which is why he sounds so bad. That's not true. He just literally is an ass.

C (41:35)

I think you and I share something very special. But if it's not duplicatable, it could put us at risk. And there is something.

A (41:43)

Did you think about this?

C (41:44)

Come on, there's something wonderful right here.

A (41:45)

Well, yeah. Yeah, there is.

C (41:47)

Why would we put that at risk?

A (41:49)

Yeah, you're right.

C (41:50)

For anything other than guarantee.

B (41:52)

And that's the only reason it's not possible.

C (41:54)

Why would we put that at risk? Anything other than in my brain, there's something I want maybe more than you do.

A (42:01)

What? What do you mean?

C (42:04)

I don't want to talk about that subject, but I. Oh, you talking about sex. Yeah, I'm not.

B (42:09)

Oh.

C (42:10)

My primary motivation, I'm afraid, at my life.

A (42:12)

Yeah.

C (42:14)

Would be. Yeah. Just. Just how good looking she is. I'm not kidding.

A (42:19)

And that would be the very worst reason.

C (42:22)

Well, I'd still want to be open.

A (42:24)

So you don't understand how you're coming across.

C (42:26)

I know, I know. I'm a guy and I don't. I don't freaking care.

B (42:29)

Okay.

A (42:30)

You're just kind of being a bit of a pig, Right?

B (42:36)

This man has, like, basically no relationship with the majority of his kids. He has ruined the lives of three other women who are amazing. And I'm just so happy that he's in a place where he's, you know, just like, hey, I just want to make sure I can get laid as much as I want.

A (42:54)

Okay, a few things. One, I don't know if you caught this at the beginning of the episode, but remember when he says he's talking about the state of disrepair, all of his relationships are with the other women. And he says instead of having an amicable, hey, we're not really working out. Have a good life. See you later. It got darker and darker and worse and worse until the breakup. And then, oh, yeah, I didn't love them. And it's like, I'm just like, really, dude. You think that you can just marry someone, have children with them and treat them terribly, lead them on a wild goose chase, boondoggle of a life, uproot them several times, finally get in a good living situation like they were in. In Las Vegas, and then take them all to Flagstaff. Okay. Emotionally neglect all of them except for Robin. Yeah. And then they're just gonna be like, oh, you know what? I just don't think this is working anymore, but have a nice life, buddy.

B (43:54)

Like, they just couldn't peacefully make their exit. Exit. Yeah. No, it's. It's stunning the way that he views, you know, the last 20 years or the last 10 years of their life. And I think, you know, just like, in the way that he talks about the women on the show, I think just reveals so much about his perspective. I mean, I think at one point he says, I just don't think I can take the drama of another woman. Yeah, Cody, you're the drama.

A (44:22)

But, but also, by the way, he's saying that he. His primary motivator would be how attractive she was in having sex.

B (44:29)

Oh, yeah.

A (44:30)

Which is like, oh, gosh, not necessarily what your TLC audience wants to hear. You know, I mean, there's zero self awareness.

B (44:40)

We missed the part at the beginning where they're eating and she says, she says, I like your licks.

A (44:46)

Oh.

B (44:46)

And then he says, I'm having a lot of fun with what you just said in my head.

A (44:51)

Oh, yeah, they were fully, like, having some, you know, some true flirtation.

B (44:56)

There was some flirtation going on with them. I mean, like. And then he says a little later on in his interview, he says, you know, polygamous men have more than they want.

A (45:05)

They get more than they want.

B (45:07)

Get more than they want. Monogamous men don't have enough. Can't get enough. I mean, I am just so grossed out by him, and I just think his life is really in such a sad state. And he doesn't even seem to be like, that concerned with, like, getting the relationship with his, like, what, 18 children back on track. Like, can you imagine if you had that if you had half as many, like, kids? I don't get it.

A (45:33)

It's.

B (45:33)

It's fathomless. Fathomless.

A (45:36)

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B (47:26)

Right. Right now, the, the three other women are a story of hope. And let's move to the greatest story of hope of all. Christine and David.

A (47:35)

Loving Christine and David on the screen. Loving their scenes. I mean, I feel like, I'll be honest when I saw the North Carolina farm project that they're embarking upon and Christine saying she wants no part of it. I'm not gonna lie. I related more to Christine in that moment. Janelle's woman of the land dreams are kind of extinguishing mine. Christine just being like it's raw land, like I have no desire to be there.

B (48:03)

No. Christine loves her life in Lehigh with her hunky David and no, she's, she's happy. I mean, I gotta tell you, when, when David was racing. Oh, I'm forgetting Madison. I think Janelle's Daughter when they were racing. I mean, he can get it.

A (48:20)

What does that mean?

B (48:21)

I don't actually mean that because I think that means I would have sex with him, but. Okay, you thought you.

A (48:28)

You were. You were getting the.

B (48:29)

I was just impressed. I was impressed with his physical prowess. Okay. Yeah. You have to know, if you must know what I mean by that. That's what I mean by that.

A (48:38)

You know what? And I think Christine appreciates it. Chandler, can I share one thought about this episode that I'm ashamed to admit?

B (48:44)

Please.

A (48:45)

I found the following moment between Cody and Robin to be actually quite romantic. And I'm gonna play it. Okay, so he's basically talking. They're talking about how, like, if they were to ever, like, take, like. Because Robin still maintains that she kind of yearns for the life of being a polygamous wife and, you know, sitting on the rocking chairs and actually being in the polygamous lifestyle. And so they kind of talk about if they know you're gonna play. And I want to play this. Okay? I want to play this for everyone.

C (49:19)

I'm done, Robin. I'm done. Because the idea of it just breaks my heart. So it's you and me, baby. Monogamy. Does it work for you? Will it work for you?

A (49:34)

Sounds good. No, no, no, no, no, no. It sounds good.

B (49:38)

I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.

C (49:45)

Okay, it's a deal.

A (49:46)

Let's go. You know what? In Cody's defense, I didn't think I was going to be Cody Brown's defense attorney on this episode, but in Cody's defense, I'm sure they do have so many wackadoodle women in their DMs and emails trying to become wanting to, you know, court Cody in the family. And I just think that a great way to extend this show would be to have another wife come into the picture. And I think that it is, on some level, a sign of maturity that even though he is still clearly a virulent man, he is not playing that game at all. Not to try to keep the show going, not to try to get laid. He is committing to Robin, and he is becoming a monogamist. For me, this is, like, a little bit of redemption, a tiny redeeming moment for him.

B (50:41)

It's like her captor is looking at her, and it's like, how about, you know, eternity with just me? And she's like, sounds good. Like, I could not find any romance in this moment. I'm happy you did. I'm happy that he, after he ruined the lives of three other, you know, brilliant women that he finally is, Is okay with settling down with just one.

A (51:02)

Yeah.

B (51:03)

After he's, you know, after he has enough money.

A (51:05)

The bar is in hell, Chandler.

B (51:07)

Yeah. So I, I, yeah, I couldn't find any. Anything redeeming about that. But I'm glad you do. I mean, what do you think about his hair? Let's just end on that. Quick thoughts about his hair.

A (51:17)

You know, the hair continues to confound me. The hair continues to be ringlet noodles atop his sunburnt head. And you know what? It's actually the least problematic part about him.

B (51:31)

Well, also, he's got these two front pieces. And yeah, we are just commenting on his looks, everybody. So just put your pitchforks away because I would like to comment on Cody Brown's looks. He's. Lord knows he's commented on Christine's enough.

A (51:44)

True.

B (51:45)

Those two front pieces are hanging on by a fucking thread. And it's like his hairline is actually quite far back because, you know, he's, like, losing his hair. But the two front pieces are strong. And I think he should go to Turkey. I think Cody Brown should get on a plane and go to Turkey and take care of business. That would be my, that's my advice for him. So. And we can, we can, you know, see what the next episode has in store for us. Because we'll be watching, rest assured.

A (52:11)

We absolutely will. Okay, let's move on to the dissolution of Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban. I mean, this news is, I think, sending everyone. I don't know, sending everyone into therapy. Okay. Because no one saw this coming. So Nicole has filed for divorce. Yesterday the news was that they had separated, but Nicole has formally filed for divorce. We're told that Keith and her have been living separately for a while. Apparently, Nicole wanted to work on their marriage and was trying to do everything to save it. As for the cause of the split, a source says Keith feels Nicole hasn't shown up for him in the way he wants her to. He wants someone who was there for him. Emotionally, he doesn't feel like that has been happening and that, that it was time to walk away. I mean, that is such. If she is the one that wanted to work on the marriage and was doing everything to save it, I highly doubt she was doing everything except for showing up for him emotionally.

B (53:09)

No. Also, I'm pretty sure her mom died fairly recently, and that's been really hard on her. So fuck you, Keith Urban. Thank you very much. When I saw These headlines, I think I was. Was I in a massage? I can't remember. I didn't see them initially. And then I woke up, you know, I came to and saw the barrage of text messages, and I didn't want to believe it. I didn't want to believe that what I was looking down on my phone and seeing was true. Because these people have been married for nearly 20 years.

A (53:37)

Right?

B (53:37)

Everybody. You know, we have our Mount Rushmore monogamy, Lauren.

A (53:41)

We do.

B (53:41)

I feel like an entire rock face just fell and hit the ground.

A (53:46)

No, I. I will say, one thought I had yesterday was I was like, I'm. At least it's good that I'm functional still, because I wouldn't be functional if this news came about Tim and Faith. Like, if this news came about Tim and Faith. God, like, save whatever is in my hands because I'm throwing it to the ground in despair. Truly.

B (54:07)

I mean. I mean, what are we left with. With our. With our Mount Rushmore monogamy? We are left with Barack and Michelle, Brad Falchuk and Gwyneth Paltrow, who kind of don't count because it's like. It's like kind of a second marriage, you know, it's not like they've been together for 15 plus years, and we're left with him in faith, was. And. And Rita and Tom. Like, who else am I missing? I'm writing these down just so you know, because I need to look at them. I need to look at these names on a page. I'm literally writing them down as we speak. I need to look at these names and remember why I have the ring on my finger. Like, why we're doing this? No, because I never saw this coming. For Keith and Nicole, do you know. You know. You know the whole story with them? They. She, you know, fled. Tom Cruise. They met four months after they got married. He was in rehab. She supported him. They have, you know, their daughters, and they've had a really beautiful love story of, like, two stars in their own right, like, making it work.

A (55:07)

Mm.

B (55:09)

I'm upset.

A (55:11)

I mean, do you remember the story of how when they met and they were first dating, he asked her, how's your hot. How's your heart? And she said, it's open. It's open.

B (55:21)

What is that from our deep dive? We did a deep dive on them, right?

A (55:26)

Yeah, we did.

B (55:28)

I'm like, I. I remember remembering your impression. It's really good. It's a really good impression.

A (55:34)

How's your heart, Nicole? How's your heart right now? She Said open. It made me ask myself, wow, is my heart open? Okay, now I'm, like, losing the accent. I really gotta work out.

B (55:46)

You're. You're dovetailing into that, like, Zales campaign. Or she's almost like, if your heart is open, love can always find its way in. And it's like that open heart, like jewelry.

A (55:56)

That was pretty good. Anyway, they were always such, like, a sensual into each other couple. So the PDA was off the charts with those two.

B (56:06)

Like, the raw sex that you could feel when these two. I mean, she's taller than him. He's got guitar hands. Like, it was hot.

A (56:16)

It was hot. And apparently he said in the closing AFI tribute in 2024, next year will be 20 years that I've been madly in love with you. Congratulations, baby girl. I love you. Is that pretty good?

B (56:29)

Sure.

A (56:30)

And he said, first and foremost, my marriage with Nick informs everything. If I'm a better man, it's because of her. I mean, they were just. They just gave so many good quotes about their marriage. And I think they gave a lot of us hope. And so this news is really, really shattering.

B (56:49)

I mean, I think, too, when. When it's a couple like them that have, like, overcome so much, like, with his addiction, where you're like, they have faced, you know, an Everest of challenges, like, of personal challenges, and they have summited it and they are on the other side. And, you know, they're also just, like, they've made it. They've two daughters, like, and they're in their teens. It's not like. Like, why can't we just stick it out for another five years until they, like, graduate or whatever? Like, they're not. To me, this is really, like. I feel like something troubling happened here.

A (57:22)

Yes. Something bad happened. So when I was on Guana Island, I'm not sure if it was the time you were there. I think it was Chandler. We were there together, and I met a woman who was neighbors with them. And she basically said. She was like, they are so wonderful. And she said, the girls are delightful. The girls do lemonade stands. She was just saying that, like, they were very normal members of the community. No one acted like they were celebrities, like they were just a normal parent. And the kids acted completely normal and were just extremely, extremely polite. There was something about, like, one of the girls maybe offering babysitting services.

B (57:57)

Like, yeah, something like that.

A (57:59)

Normal, normal, good family. So I just feel like something has gone deeply wrong here. And I don't think that it was that Nicole didn't Show up for Keith. You know what?

B (58:08)

No, that is.

A (58:09)

You know, that's giving, Chandler. It's giving. It's giving. Jax. Taylor. Why aren't you checking on me?

B (58:15)

I was in rehab for 30 days.

A (58:18)

No one called me. You didn't call me. Why aren't you. Why is it Britney checking on me?

B (58:22)

Literally. Anyway, Nick is too busy filming, you know, and earning money for their family, doing whatever Netflix wants her to do. You know, whatever, like book to TV series they want from her.

A (58:34)

I do think they both work a ton. He's on tour a lot, she's filming a lot. So it does make sense that they were at a high risk for growing apart.

B (58:43)

Well, I have to be honest. I did look at some TikTok theories about this.

A (58:48)

Okay, and what did you find?

B (58:50)

Apparently, he's, like, been tightly embracing his female guitarist.

A (58:56)

No.

B (58:58)

No. I didn't want to have to bring you this news because I don't know how. How realistic or truthful it is, but yeah. Anyway, I don't even want to talk about him because, like, I just know it can't be her fault. Fault.

A (59:12)

Can't be. Can't be. Whose fault? The. The guitarist's fault.

B (59:17)

Sorry. Talking about Nicole's and it's not the guitarist fault, I guess. I don't know, it just. It makes no sense to me and I think I'm upset. I'm upset.

A (59:26)

It's not good news for couples that live and die by the rule that couples that get injected together stay together. You know, it's not good news if you're going to get Botox and filler with your husband and you're trying to achieve an equally paralyzed and frozen. Frozen look, and you think that that is going to just really kind of like, you know, seal the deal of your union.

B (59:51)

Right.

A (59:51)

I urge you to search for other options. You.

B (59:54)

You need to let your man's fine lines settle in because otherwise he will be frozen beyond belief and he might be able to attract his female guitarist.

A (60:04)

I mean, watch out.

B (60:06)

Kiss a death. Can I play something really funny for you that is Nicole Kidman related that I just loved so much. Okay. I'm sending it to you because it's just. It's fucking amazing, in my opinion. I'm saying the F word a lot and I don't care, but it's. Basically, it's Reese Witherspoon doing an impression of Nicole Kidman.

A (60:26)

Oh, okay.

B (60:28)

I can't believe you haven't seen this. I'm so happy you said something one time. I think it was when you were giving a tribute to Nicole where you were talking about how, like, Nicole calls and she's like, you've gotta understand. You don't understand.

A (60:43)

Charlotte is an actor.

B (60:45)

There's this director.

A (60:46)

She's amazing. We must get her.

B (60:49)

Then she does say stuff like, reese.

A (60:52)

We must go on a girls trip. I have to have a tequila. We have to. We must. Oh, Reese. I mean, that is pretty impeccable.

B (61:06)

I just also love Rhys's face. Everyone will post the video on our stories when we do our teaser for this episode. But Reese's face is so good when she's doing it, too. It's like. It. It's an. It's an incredible impression, in my opinion.

A (61:17)

It absolutely is. And you know what? I just think that Rhys is going. I'm sorry, not Reese. Nicole is going to find her next chapter, okay? She. We're gonna watch the light come back into her eyes. I hope to see her with a wonderful, new, gorgeous man. And it's all gonna be fine. We all just need to hold hands and tell ourselves that at the very.

B (61:37)

Least, maybe speed dating in Salt Lake City with Mary.

A (61:40)

Yes, That's a great idea for her, Chandler. I'm sure. I'm sure Nicole would love nothing more than to hit up the Salt Lake Convention center with Mary Brown. All right. And do so speed dating with what Salt Lake City has to offer of men, you know, in their 50s.

B (61:58)

They're both survivors of men who are too obsessed with their hair.

A (62:03)

Very true. And that maybe is also a cautionary tale.

B (62:06)

Yes, absolutely. Everybody, Pearls of wisdom.

A (62:10)

Listeners, thank you so much for listening. I'm not allowed to call you guys Pop Apostles anymore. I got some offense. Some people were offended about that, thought it was sacrilegious. So we're gonna search for a new nickname for the listeners.

B (62:23)

Everyone submit new nicknames that are not offensive to the religious or non religious esteemed listeners.

A (62:31)

And with that, I will just say this great bye.

B (62:50)

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