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Candice Lim
Okay, so say you're out living your life and suddenly out of nowhere, you get a random airdropped message on your phone from a complete stranger. You'd probably just ignore it and disable, right? Well, most of us are not characters in the bonkers thriller Drop. This movie is about a woman whose first date goes off the rails when she starts getting increasingly alarming airdrops from someone nearby. And this potentially romantic dinner turns into a life or death situation. Real quick. I'm Aisha Harris, and today we're talking about Drop on Pop Culture Happy Hour from npr. Joining me today is the co host of Slate's ICYMI podcast and former PCHHH producer Candice Lim. Welcome back, Candace. This is, it's great to have you here.
Liz Metzger
Oh, I'm so glad to see you.
Candice Lim
Hello, hello, hello. We also have one of our other producers here on Pop Culture Happy Hour, Liz Metzger. Hello, Liz. Welcome back.
Unknown Speaker
Hello. Happy to be here. Producer City, like Roku City.
Candice Lim
Such a fun movie to actually be talking to you both about. This is gonna be a ride just like the movie. So in Drop, Megan Fahey plays Violet, a single mom going on her first date with a guy she met online named Henry. He's by Brendan Sklennar.
Liz Metzger
Sorry I'm late.
Candice Lim
I.
Unknown Speaker
It's not fine. I mean, it is fine. It's not a problem. Sorry, I got a drink because I was nervous. It clearly hasn't helped.
Liz Metzger
I had a couple in the car.
Candice Lim
On the way over. Also, it didn't help. The date seems to be going well until she accepts an airdrop request on her phone. Then the messages keep coming and they keep getting weirder and darker and ultimately more personal. They become impossible to ignore. And now she's beholden to the demands of the mysterious messenger. And that mysterious messenger could be anyone else in this restaurant at this moment. Another patron, the piano player, maybe even Henry. And we should also mention the movie touches on domestic abuse. We'll get to that in a bit. Drop is directed by Christopher Landon, who previously directed Happy Death Day and its sequel. It's in theaters now. Now, I do also have to like, preface this by saying that at the top of the show, I called it airdropping, because that's what we're all familiar with technically in the movie, they call it Digidrop, because I'm sure Apple doesn't want to be associated. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker
Of course.
Candice Lim
Trademarks, whatever. But anyway, that's what it is. Liz, I'm going to start with you. What did you make of this very weird movie?
Unknown Speaker
You know, there's a lot of reasons. I like drop one. I was able to see it at south by Southwest, which was the premiere. So I'm already, like, caught up a little bit in the audience for a movie like this. That helps. Am I also sitting next to Aisha Harris? Yes, yes.
Candice Lim
We were there.
Unknown Speaker
These are things that help me like a movie. And this is a great movie to watch with a big audience because it is a movie. You are sitting there going, oh, no, she didn't do that. No, the child and the child with the cute little colored glasses. I had such a fun time, and I really do try not to get, like, too invested into, like, how everyone else is reacting. But it is a movie that is silly and fun and playing with, like, tropes of what it's like to be in a very contained thriller. You have the very quirky server. Jeffrey Self is so good as server on his first day.
Candice Lim
Server Matt. Yes, yes.
Unknown Speaker
You have the super, super nice bartender who's gonna ask you a ton of questions about your kid. There's just so many fun little characters in this very small world of the restaurant, though we do go a little bit outside of that.
Candice Lim
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
The thing is, I like Megan Fahey.
Liz Metzger
Me, too.
Unknown Speaker
I like Megan Fahey in everything she does.
Candice Lim
Yes.
Unknown Speaker
It is a fun movie. I actually have no complaints here I am. I'm having a great time. I will be the drop defender.
Liz Metzger
You are.
Unknown Speaker
I was a trap. Defender. I loved M Night's trap. Had a great time. No notes.
Candice Lim
I am so glad you shouted out Jeffrey Self as the waiter because he was by far my favorite part of this movie. He's one of those actors who's like, I'm in this role. I'm going to make the most of this. I'm going to go big. I'm going to give huge expressive faces. He has great timing. Shout out to him. Candice, did the message get into you? Did you accept?
Unknown Speaker
Were you dropped in?
Candice Lim
Were you dropped in?
Liz Metzger
Oh, no. So here's the deal. I was getting M3gan vibes from this movie walking in. And the thing is, my most anticipated film of the year is the sequel to Megan. And so to me, I was like, oh, this is going to be like a horror. There's going to be, like, thrilling elements. It's going to really hit that zone. And I do think this is not really a horror movie. It's more of a thriller. But, yes, that's kind of one example of how, like, I maybe had higher expectations for this that were not met. For example, I think the movie this is most like is Carry on on Netflix, which was my favorite movie of last year. It's the one where Jason Bateman basically, like, is telling Taron Edgerton what to do because he's a TSA agent. He's like, if you don't do this, then your girlfriend's gonna die. Which is kind of similar premise here of, like, someone is dropping a bunch of memes. And I'll give credit there, the meme usage, very good.
Unknown Speaker
I like the knockoff meme.
Candice Lim
Right.
Unknown Speaker
I like the ones that I could tell. I was like, you could not get that. But we got close. We got really close.
Liz Metzger
Exactly. And they really brought it in. They brought in kombucha girl. They brought in the distracted boyfriend meme like they were within their memology bag. And despite all of that, I can't help but ask, like, guys, how conceivable is this plot? Because I'm not gonna lie, the second I get that first meme, I'm going airplane mode. But the thing is, you can't do that in this. In this type of context, because she has a son. She has a son.
Unknown Speaker
We don't have sons.
Liz Metzger
The thing I love between this and Carry on is, like, these are both movies that use very similar storytelling elements, which is they gamify the plot. They kind of lead you almost like a robot in a video game in a maze of, like, you get this instruction, oh, you made the wrong choice. There's this a B kind of binary here, and I like that. And even though I have to say, Liz, holding your hand while I say this, I did not love it as much as you. I agree that, like, my audience did kind of add this, like, fourth element to it of just. The reactions were so fun. It felt so big. And I will say, even though I did love this in a theater, this will go very hard on Peacock, so it's okay to wait.
Candice Lim
Hard on Peacock. Assuming that you have at least one or two other people in the room with you, and you can and both go full in on just, like, what is happening. I would also say for those of you who are listening and who have not seen it yet, you should absolutely not watch the trailer because it gives away so much. One of the worst spoilery trailers I've seen in a long time. I think I lean more with you, Candace. I did enjoy this movie. It was silly. It did give me Trap vibes.
Unknown Speaker
Big praise.
Candice Lim
I don't think it went far enough as Trap. Sure, it was nonsensical, but not as nonsensical as Trap and I needed it to be. It lived too much in the middle gray area of being like, just not absurd enough for me. I kept thinking about this movie that came out in 2012 called Compliance. It's this fascinating movie that stars Ann Dowd as the manager of a small town fast food restaurant who receives a call from someone who's impersonating a law enforcement officer. This person claims that they've like received a complaint that one of her employees has stolen money from a customer. And so he starts getting her to interrogate them and it leads into this like over the phone. Over the course of the time she does these really horrific and unethical and possibly illegal things to her employees because she thinks she's like helping the company. And this is actually like inspired by a series of real life phone scams that happen. This is kind of what this movie is like. Drop is about someone who like has something dangling in front of her and is being told like, you have to do this or else. Granted, like, there are real threats that this movie as we come to see, but the extreme lengths she winds up going to. This to me finds like the brainwashed version of compliance where it's like, we're not really interested in this idea of like compliance and what it means to like be beholden to something. You don't know where it's coming from. It's just like this is just gonna be fun, silly and go to the extremes of everything. Even the restaurant they go to is like this uber fancy Chicago, sky high restaurant with floor to ceiling windows. That's actually a big part of the plot is like her they're like sitting by the window and like they might move, they might not. Who knows? It's kind of silly, but overall I think this is the type of movie that definitely benefits from seeing with an audience. I don't know if it hits well otherwise.
Unknown Speaker
I think one of the reasons that it is not like Trap is because there is like emotional weight. It's a feature. I wouldn't say it deterred me from this film, but there is like a lot of emotional weight. When you cast Megan Fahey, like she's not just gonna be doing broad comedy, she is like gonna give you the most beautiful tears you've ever seen. She's gonna look at the. And you're gonna look, and you're gonna be like, oh, gosh, what are we doing to her?
Candice Lim
Yeah.
Unknown Speaker
And a lot of her story is very much like her backstory and what's happening in the restaurant. They're all interconnected of why she feels like she has to make these decisions and why she feels like she has to do anything. It takes, like, it can never be a true comedy, which is fine. But it does mean you can't be, like, full kooky. Kooky. There is quite a bit of, like, emotional weight just in her beautiful doe eyes. But also in the premise of the film.
Liz Metzger
Yeah. I found it interesting that Megan Fahey's character did not use the technology against the assailant, because this is one of those movies that I think appeals to me, maybe our generation, because it's so digitally savvy. Right. It's like the meme culture, the language, the airdropping of it all. Even explaining that to someone who is not within, like, a certain time, like, age range is wild. But I thought it was interesting how kind of in the third act, obviously, Megan Fahey, she was damsel in distress. She's being told by this anonymous digital villain to, like, do all these things. And instead of using that digital, like, toolkit against the assailant, which I feel like is something. Carry on. Kind of did, she goes full action mode. And I was kind of like, okay, first off, I didn't know you had that within you, Pilates queen. It kind of made me wonder, am I a little over this trope of, like, women with these really heavy backstories in movies like this, where the premise is, like, goofy and wild. But the thing is, they kind of use things like the fact that she was a survivor of domestic abuse. That's a huge part of her backstory. The fact that this is her first date in so long and she's so worried about, like, leaving her son alone. I think using that, but then also trying to, like, basically say, look at her. She has to sacrifice her desire as a woman for her protective instinct as a mother. I was kind of like, ah. Like, could we go one more? Could we go one more?
Unknown Speaker
Yeah.
Candice Lim
Yeah. I think that was kind of what kept me back, was that domestic abuse backstory, because it didn't seem necessary to me. It's like your child alone feels, like, enough that you would be concerned. Like, I don't understand, like, why you also had to have this very traumatic backstory. It felt a Little like an attempt to make this meteor than it needed to be. And that's, I think, what you're saying, Liz. Like, when you have that, it's hard to go full trap. Like, you can't go full trap, you know, And N trap also, you know, the pop star in that uses the technology against him.
Unknown Speaker
True.
Candice Lim
That was missing. I don't know. I just needed a little more. A little more kook and a little less tragic backstory.
Unknown Speaker
Yeah, I completely agree. I think the thing is, there is a wanting to show that this experience is very much touching of the idea of, like, you are trapped in a relationship in this. It's a digital relationship with this airdropper that she is like, I want to protect my child. Again, I say it's a feature, it's not a bug. I understand that that's what they're trying to do. It does add more heft. Do I need more heft in a movie like this? No. But I am fine to have it.
Liz Metzger
What do you guys think of, like, the lighting in this film? Because they did something kind of interesting where they were using spotlights and it felt very theory. And they were doing, like, digital projections of the text, which I did.
Unknown Speaker
Like, I love that.
Liz Metzger
But then they were also putting the security camera footage on the walls of the bathroom. And I was like, okay, there's something a little bit like a black box theater about this. Very small, very contained that I did enjoy. Small cast, Small cast.
Candice Lim
Look, I loved the look of this film. And again, that restaurant design was like, it looks expensive.
Unknown Speaker
That's hard.
Candice Lim
It looks expensive. Apparently they built like, this set, basically, and built a fully functioning restaurant. It did seem to play as though we were in a play in a way. It's like, oh, people are actually ordering and whatever. And I will say the music also is very, like, signaling cues. Like, very dramatic anytime, like, yeah, like, very sonic. The whole thing feels like you're watching a trailer sometimes where it's like, you know, like, the trailer kind of emphasizes everything.
Liz Metzger
I mean, the thing is, like, I love the premise of this movie and I love the way that we got into the premise pretty immediately. The drop started happening quite up front in Act 1. It's a well paced movie.
Candice Lim
Well paced movie. Yes. In and out.
Liz Metzger
If there's any value to take away from a film like this, which, like, hey, maybe you're Liz and you love it. You watch it five times. Good for you. Maybe you're like, me and you're kind of like, we had a good time. We walk out. Yeah, I do think maybe this is kind of the direction that some of these smaller films that get made by bigger studios can go of. Like hey, this premise may be wild, the film might be flimsy, but if you have a good Megan Fahey, we can do something today.
Candice Lim
This is like to me a solid B minus C movie that like totally is absolutely enjoyable with friends.
Unknown Speaker
We need those. Cinema needs to be filled and support movies that are economical to a certain extent that are. They're not wasting my time. They look good.
Liz Metzger
We do need those. We do.
Unknown Speaker
I mean Megan Fahey, to me, big star but not necessarily a huge heavy hitter in everyone's household. Like I like seeing movies that are just not just the same a listers I see in everything.
Candice Lim
I don't know. I guess. Look, Candace and I are not as fully drop pilled as Liz, but I think we all agree that we need more movies like this.
Unknown Speaker
It's a good time.
Candice Lim
I'm glad Drop exists.
Unknown Speaker
I'm glad Drop exists.
Candice Lim
Obviously we are into Drop. Tell us what you think about Drop. Find us on Facebook@facebook.com PCHH and on letterbox@letterboxd.com NPRpopculture we'll have a link in our episode description to that. And up next, we're gonna be talking about what's making us happy this week.
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Candice Lim
And now it's time for our favorite segment of this week and every week. What's making us happy? Candice hit us.
Liz Metzger
So my happy this week is the new album from Too Hollis. Too Hollis, I would say makes tinnitus core music. And what I mean by that is that background he used to be an alt musician, started doing EDM and two halls. His whole story is that he got Ableton when he was really young, started using Reddit and like YouTube to figure out how to use it and make music. So I guess this is kind of like the next evolution of bedroom pop, bedroom edm. But he has his new album out. It's called Star. He worked on it with Jonah Abraham who produced some of Playboi Cardi's music. So I guess if you're looking for something to kind of tide you over, post Brat Pre Summer, this album is very Lindsay Lohan vibe. But for people who still have to clock into their job on Monday and for me, the standout song that I'm loving right now is Nice off the album. Let's hear a little bit of it.
Unknown Speaker
I'm trying to be nice. I'm trying to be nice. I'm trying to be.
Liz Metzger
Hey.
Candice Lim
Oh my God, Candace. I am at a Las Vegas pool party right now.
Liz Metzger
This is the vibe and I have to say I'm kind of into it and so that's what's making me happy. The song Nice off the new two Hollis album. This is my drop. This is my drop.
Candice Lim
Thank you, Candace. Liz, what is making you happy?
Unknown Speaker
Okay, what has taken over my life is I have got into a classic game. This is like if I was saying I got into checkers or if I got into Yahtzee, I've started to play mahjong with my friends. You know, I specifically play Riichi mahjong. There's a lot of different types of mahjong, so don't come for me. It's so fun to play a game with your friends in person and to learn it together so you can all be bad. It is fun to get skunked online playing people and all we like message back is emojis or reactions. I love a trick taking game. I love gin rummy and I really love little tiles that look like little custards. So this is such a fun game to play with your friends. So all we would need is one more person and we could all play if you have three friends who want to play until morning, until night. I really think we should all be playing mahjong. Riichi Mahjong. Not gonna lie. I love a complicated rule and I refuse to do the scoring that's outside my pay grade. But highly recommend getting into mahjong.
Candice Lim
I love it. I'm a big board gamer, you know, card gamer. And I have still not yet played mahjong ever.
Unknown Speaker
So next retreat, you'll see me with the tiles.
Candice Lim
Click, click, click, click, click, click, click. I'm gonna hold you to that. Liz, please, please. All right. Well, what is making me, well, what makes me sad is that I don't live in New York anymore. Don't get me wrong, I love living on the west coast, but because I don't live in New York anymore, I don't get to go see Broadway live theater as much. Off of that, I am loving New York Mag's recent yesteryear issue, which features interviews with an array of Broadway legends about their definitive roles with really, really great photo shoots by Mark Seliger. You've got Barbra Streisand talking about her role in Funny Girl. Andre de Shields discussing his role as the Wiz in the original production. Joel Gray talking about cabaret, Liza talking about Liza with a Z. And you get these, like, great little tidbits like Babs revealing she reuses her tea bags because she remembers what it's like to be poor.
Unknown Speaker
They're not all just happy stories. A lot of them have complicated feelings about those performances.
Candice Lim
Exactly.
Unknown Speaker
Delicious.
Candice Lim
Yes. So, yeah, I highly recommend checking this out if you are at all a theater lover, a lover of live performance. The photos are great. The interviews are fun. And that is New York magazine's yesteryear issue. The official headline is like, good God, it was fun. Which is just a quote, but go find that. Highly worth it. It made me smile. It made me very happy. And this Sunday in our podcast feed, we'll have another monthly mailbox bonus episode for our pop culture Happy hour. Plus supporters. Glenn and I will be talking all about a topic that is very near and dear to my heart because I have a lot of thoughts. He had a lot of thoughts about movie theater etiquet. Yes. We get a little spicy. We get a little spicy. Sign up for pop culture happy hour plus@plus.NPR.org happy and we'll also have a link to that in our episode description. That brings us to the end of our show. Candice Lim Liz Metzger, thanks so much for dropping in and talking about drop anytime.
Liz Metzger
This was so fun. Thank you.
Candice Lim
This episode was produced by Hafsa, Fatima and Liz Metzger. Liz hey. And edited by Mike Katsith. Our supervising producer is Jessica Reedy. And hello. Come in provides our theme music. Thanks for listening to Pop Culture Happy Hour from npr. I'm Aisha Harris and we'll see you all next week.
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Pop Culture Happy Hour: "Drop And What's Making Us Happy" Summary
Release Date: April 11, 2025
Introduction
In this episode of Pop Culture Happy Hour, hosted by NPR’s Aisha Harris, the team delves into the recently released thriller film Drop, exploring its intriguing premise, thematic depth, and overall execution. Joining Aisha are former producers and pop culture aficionados Candice Lim and Liz Metzger, who bring their unique perspectives to the discussion.
Discussion on Drop
Drop centers around Violet (played by Megan Fahey), a single mother navigating her first date in years with Henry, portrayed by Brendan Sklennar. The seemingly ordinary evening takes a suspenseful turn when Violet begins receiving increasingly disturbing airdrop messages, escalating into a life-threatening ordeal. Directed by Christopher Landon, known for Happy Death Day and its sequel, Drop weaves elements of digital menace with personal trauma.
Plot and Themes
Candice Lim introduces the film’s core conflict: “Imagine you’re on a date, and suddenly your phone is inundated with airdropped messages from a stranger. That’s the premise of Drop, and it sets up a tense atmosphere where every interaction could be manipulated by the mysterious messenger.” [01:22]
Liz Metzger appreciates the movie’s balance between suspense and character development. “Drop is a great movie to watch with a big audience because it plays with tropes in a fun and engaging way,” she remarks [03:00]. The film’s setting in an upscale Chicago restaurant with quirky characters like the first-day server, played by Jeffrey Self, adds a layer of realism and humor amidst the tension.
Character Performances
Megan Fahey’s portrayal of Violet is a focal point of the discussion. Liz notes, “I like Megan Fahey in everything she does. It is a fun movie, and I have no complaints.” [04:01] Candice echoes this sentiment, highlighting Fahey’s ability to convey both vulnerability and resilience.
The supporting cast, including the expressive server and the super-nice bartender, receive praise for adding depth and charm to the confined setting. “Jeffrey Self is so good as the server on his first day. His timing and expressive faces really elevate the scenes,” states Candice [04:08].
Comparative Analysis
The hosts draw parallels between Drop and other films such as Carry On and Compliance, discussing how Drop navigates its thriller elements. Liz compares the meme usage in Drop to that in Carry On, appreciating the film’s incorporation of contemporary digital culture: “They brought in kombucha girl, the distracted boyfriend meme—they were really within their memology bag.” [05:28]
However, both Liz and Candice express reservations about the film’s plot plausibility and the integration of heavy backstory elements. Candice critiques the inclusion of Violet’s domestic abuse history, questioning its necessity: “I think that’s what kept me back was that domestic abuse backstory. It felt a little like an attempt to make this matter than it needed to be.” [11:05]
Cinematography and Pacing
The episode highlights the film’s visual and auditory elements, noting the use of spotlights and digital projections that create a theatrical ambiance. Liz appreciates the confined, almost black-box theater feel: “They were putting the security camera footage on the walls of the bathroom. It felt very theory, very contained.” [12:16]
Candice complements the film’s aesthetic, mentioning the meticulously built restaurant set: “They built a fully functioning restaurant. It looks expensive and plays as though we’re in a play.” [12:44] The pacing is deemed well-executed, with the tension ramping up consistently from the outset.
Final Thoughts on Drop
Overall, the hosts find Drop to be an enjoyable thriller that benefits from an audience setting, enhancing the communal experience of its suspenseful moments. While acknowledging its shortcomings in balancing trauma and thriller elements, they agree that Megan Fahey’s performance and the film’s engaging premise make it a worthwhile watch. Candice summarizes, “I think we all agree that we need more movies like this. I'm glad Drop exists.” [14:31]
What's Making Us Happy
Transitioning from film discussion, the hosts share personal sources of joy in their lives.
Liz Metzger: New Music and Magazine Highlights
Liz shares her enthusiasm for Too Hollis’s new album Star. She describes the music as “tinnitus core,” blending EDM with bedroom pop sensibilities. Highlighting the standout track “Nice,” Liz plays a snippet, capturing the album’s vibrant vibe [17:46].
Additionally, Liz expresses happiness over New York Magazine’s recent Yesteryear issue, which features in-depth interviews and stunning photo shoots with Broadway legends like Barbra Streisand and Andre de Shields. She praises the issue for its nostalgic and heartfelt content, making it a delightful read for theater enthusiasts [19:16].
Candice Lim: Embracing Mahjong
Candice reveals her new passion for Riichi Mahjong, a complex and strategic tile-based game. She enthusiastically explains how playing with friends brings joy and camaraderie: “It’s so fun to play a game with your friends in person and to learn it together.” [18:10] Her excitement is palpable as she invites others to join in the fun, even teasing Liz about future game nights [19:30].
Looking Ahead
Aisha hints at the upcoming bonus episode for Pop Culture Happy Hour Plus, where she and host Glen will discuss movie theater etiquette—a topic she describes as “very near and dear to my heart” [20:28]. She encourages listeners to subscribe to support the podcast and unlock exclusive content [20:27].
Conclusion
This episode of Pop Culture Happy Hour offers a comprehensive exploration of Drop, blending critical analysis with personal reflections on happiness and leisure. Through engaging dialogue and insightful commentary, Aisha Harris, Candice Lim, and Liz Metzger provide listeners with a nuanced understanding of the film and a glimpse into their personal joys, making for a rich and entertaining listen.
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