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The animated movie K Pop Demon Hunters is a phenomenon with a soundtrack that's climbing the Billboard charts and a fandom rivaling that of just about any K pop idol. All of which makes sense. The film is loads of fun and packed with some of the catchiest bangers you'll hear all summer. I'm Stephen Thompson. Today we are talking about Netflix's K Pop Demon Hunters on Pop Culture Happy hour from npr.
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Stephen Thompson
Joining me today is Regina Barber. She's a host and reporter for NPR's Science podcast short Wave. Hey Regina.
Jaeha Kim
Hey Stephen. I'm so excited for this. You have no idea.
Stephen Thompson
So glad to have you. Also with us is Jaeha Kim. She's a Syndicated columnist whose work runs in the Chicago Tribune. Welcome, Jaeha.
Regina Barber
Thank you so much, Stephen. I can't wait to start talking about about this movie.
Stephen Thompson
It is a pleasure to have you both. So K Pop Demon Hunters premiered on Netflix back in June. It arrived without much fanfare, but soon it wasn't just climbing the Netflix charts. It was also storming the Billboard pop charts. This week, it climbed to number two on the albums chart, almost entirely on the strength of its massive and still growing streaming numbers. As for the plot of K Pop Demon Hunters, you can probably guess quite a bit of it from the movie's title. There's a superstar girl group called Huntress, whose members Rumi, Mira and Zoe are played by Arden Cho, Mei Hong, and Ji Young Yoo, respectively. Huntrix is one of the hottest K pop groups around, but its members also keep busy by protecting humanity against an army of demons led by a treacherous being called Gima Soon. Huntrix faces a new rival on the K pop scene, a boy band called Saja Boys, whose members are all, you guessed it, demons. Of course, there are even more complicating factors than that, starting with the fact that Rumi from Huntrix is secretly half demon herself and that the leader of the Saja boys, Jinu, played by Ahn Hyo Seob, might have a few divided loyalties of his own. The singing voices in K Pop Demon Hunters generally belong to ringers such as E.J. audrey Noona, Ray Ami, and Andrew Choi. And many of the songs have already become pop hits in their own right, like Golden. K Pop Demon Hunters was directed by Maggie Kang and Chris Applehans. It's streaming on Netflix now. Regina Barber, I'm gonna start with you. What'd you think of the movie?
Jaeha Kim
My daughter is into K pop, and my partner was like, oh, have you seen this thing? That's gonna be on Netflix soon. Maybe we should just all sit and watch it. And we're sitting there and we're like, oh, this will be fun. We like cartoons. And then literally, like, minute 15 and a half or something, we're just like, what is this movie? We were, like, loving it. This song, you know, Soda pop. My daughter was like, song of the summer.
Stephen Thompson
My little soda pop. You're all I can think of.
Regina Barber
Every drop I drink of. You're my soda pop. My little soda pop.
Stephen Thompson
Literally, the first time you hear it, you think that.
Jaeha Kim
You think that instantly. And you don't even need the visuals, but the visuals just, like, blow it, like, three times better, right?
Regina Barber
Literally.
Jaeha Kim
Literally.
Regina Barber
Abs. Hello. Yes.
Jaeha Kim
@ the end of it. We were all like, what was that movie that was so good? And at the end I was work slacking. Pchhh. Pop culture happy hour. I'm like, we should cover this. Like, I loved it.
Stephen Thompson
It's hard not to have that takeaway. I have to say, I paused it at the 8 1/2 minute mark to be like, wow, this goes so hard.
Jaeha Kim
It's so hard. I'm dressed up like Zoe right now. Like for real.
Regina Barber
She really is. She looks exactly like her, to be honest.
Jaeha Kim
I do.
Stephen Thompson
Yeah. This is gonna inform a lot of Halloween costumes in and we're gonna get to the soundtrack. But like, this album enters the song of the summer conversation in a big, big, big, big way. And I cannot overstate how welcome it is in that conversation in this particular crop of mostly dismal songs. J ha Kim, what'd you think?
Regina Barber
I love this movie. I mean, I watched it because I had to for work because I was interviewing Arden Cho for an article. I was like, Regina. After I watched it the first time, I watched it a second time and then I was telling everybody about it. So then I watched it with them for a third time because, you know, you catch something that'. And as somebody who covers a lot of K pop, I was pretty amazed at how many things they got right. One of the things that I thought was exaggerated, it wasn't that there are demons because, hey, who amongst us doesn't have a little demon in us, Right?
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Jaeha Kim
We all have those thoughts. I love that part.
Stephen Thompson
There are so many metaphors.
Regina Barber
Exactly.
Jaeha Kim
I love it.
Regina Barber
But in the beginning, when the girls are sitting there on their airplane and their private jet and they're eating all this food that looks like no K pop artist would ever be allowed to eat, like, just piggin out. And I love that for them because, you know, you hear so much about how much, especially the women in K pop, how they have to diet and how they can't eat this and that. And even the guys, you know, they go do their mandatory military duty, they come back buff, and then they are forced to kind of lose the weight again. So I'm like, no, let them eat because it looks good, right?
Stephen Thompson
But they also explain it. They say, like, we're going to burn 10,000 calories tonight, so we need to carbo load.
Jaeha Kim
Yeah, yeah. I loved that too. And the food looked so good. I'm a big cartoon food person. Like, you know, I just love watching like all the food in Ghibli Moon. But the food looked great, the ramen looked great. They had these, like, pouches. These, like, medicine pouches. And for some reason, I wanted to drink the juice out of the juice pouches. Like, that's how good this movie was.
Regina Barber
It was like, in a K drama. Even though this is a film where, you know, I'm waiting for the product placement, I'm like, is there gonna be, like, a subway ad? Where is was so well done. It was so much fun.
Stephen Thompson
I really had a very, very, very similar reaction to this film. First of all, it immediately hooked me in. If you are in any way on the fence, you don't have to watch this movie very long and B to know whether you will get sucked in. To me, this film's greatest accomplishment among many. And it is. It's a fun and funny and lively film. It's a lean 90 minutes.
Jaeha Kim
It's beautiful to watch. It's beautiful.
Regina Barber
It is.
Stephen Thompson
It's beautiful to look at. But where this film completely soars for me is in the songs. It is impossible to overstate how important it is that this film get its songs right. And I have seen a number of films in recent years looking at you trap, looking at you opus, where the film is built around this idea that some performer or some song is enormously compelling and then the song isn't. And that deflates a film like that so much. If these songs were not superior K pop songs, this film would fall really flat. But these are magnificent songs. They're so fun. We've already mentioned Soda pop. Soda Pop is a Saja Boys song, and it is so catchy. You completely understand how this song would kind of capture people's imaginations. And all of a sudden, everybody would welcome this as this hot new idol band. Like, this is suddenly my new thing I'm really excited about, because if you heard that song, you would feel that way.
Jaeha Kim
There's a moment in the movie where the demons are like, I don't know if this demon boy band thing would work.
Stephen Thompson
A demon boy band? What makes you think that could work?
Jaeha Kim
And then the moment they don't even start singing, they just look like K pop guys. And then, like, the demons walk out. They just walk out and they kind of pose. And then the other demons are like, oh, no, this is 100% gonna work. You feel like you're that demon. They're like, this is gonna work.
Stephen Thompson
Yeah.
Jaeha Kim
I mean, in the movie, you kind of feel for the lead singer of the demon boy band. And, like, it's so easy to like them. I was watching all these tiktoks that are just like, Saja boys take my soul. You know, like, it was just like, I can't stop this.
Regina Barber
Well, you know, one of the things that I loved about the songs was their mixture of like real K pop songs where they have songs sung in Korean but also with English. And the thing that sets it as fiction is, okay, the English is so good here because in Korean K pop songs it's usually the English is a little wonky. It's like, you know, some verb is missing.
Stephen Thompson
You know, a lot of times the English and K pop songs is basically. You could take all the lyrics and break them up into hashtags.
Regina Barber
Exactly.
Stephen Thompson
And you're right, they're a little more fluent.
Regina Barber
And can I just tell you, like soda pop, when you hear it, it's like a beautiful pop song, you know, very jubilant and like catchy. But if you listen to the lyrics or read the lyrics, it's also just a little bit dirty, which is also very K pop because you have the dou entendres, you know, so that, yeah, the tweens, the 11 year olds won't understand what they're saying. But the ajumas, you know, the older women in the audience, they're like, oh yeah, got it.
Jaeha Kim
And they're represented in this movie. They are in the front row. Like every kind of fan is represented. And I think they actually show fans, actually being fans. They have like grown men crying. They have like people in their 20s, they have people in their 60s dancing. You know, it's. I loved it so much. I also really liked as a middle aged Asian woman, the, you know, mother figure. She still looked really good with just a little bit of gray hair. Loved it. Celine loved it.
Regina Barber
Yeah.
Jaeha Kim
Something to look up to.
Stephen Thompson
So Celine is kind of a mother figure to Rumi.
Jaeha Kim
Yes.
Regina Barber
Yeah. I love that this movie was so inclusive, you know, not just in having demons and humans or whatnot, but the fans. Because what you hear about K pop fans is always, it's like, oh, you know, it's screaming 12 year old girls at the concerts. That's all you hear. And then you actually go to a concert and you're like, whoa. You know, there's men, there's women, there's all sorts of different races. It's not just Asian girls there, you know.
Jaeha Kim
No, definitely not. Yeah, and we know that now cause of the pop charts and the videos and the TikTok, everyone's loving this.
Stephen Thompson
Well, and so many of those stereotypes are meant to shrink movements.
Regina Barber
Yep.
Stephen Thompson
They're meant to diminish, they are meant to Sort of put aside, like, oh, this is just that. This is just this tiny thing. This is just this niche. This doesn't have to be taken seriously as something worthy of. This is just fluff over here for the kiddies, right? And this movie embraces this world and understands this world and embodies this world. And I just imagine this film being such a gateway into K pop for so many audiences because it's so fun and these songs are so great.
Regina Barber
And because people thought K pop is cringe, like, I don't want to like K pop because, oh, you know, hey, it's bad. And then you hear these songs and it's like you're tapping. It's like Rumi, when she doesn't want to like the Sasha boys, she can't help moving because it's so good.
Jaeha Kim
They're like. It's infectious.
Stephen Thompson
I also really do feel like this film has kind of entered the conversation around the song of the summer for 2025 and I'm on the Billboard charts beat. And it's wild how few new, joyful pop songs have really broken through in the summer of 2025. In the summer of 2024, you had brat, you had, you know, Sabrina Carpenter. You had a lot of these big, fizzy fun pop songs, and those so are certainly still coming out. But to me, this is that infusion of joy and playfulness that the pop charts really needed right now. I wanted to ask you guys, I have a favorite song from this film.
Regina Barber
Just one?
Stephen Thompson
I think I have two that hasn't come up yet. And I'm wondering because golden and Soda Pop are definitely two kind of breakthrough songs from this film. Golden is the song that they're submitting for best original song consideration for the Academy Awards. And we might actually see K pop represented at the Oscars for the first time. But for me, there's another song that I love even more. And I'm wondering what yalls favorite songs from this film are before I get to mine.
Regina Barber
Is it your idol? Because I love your idol.
Jaeha Kim
You know, they sing, you gave me.
Regina Barber
Your heart and now I'm here for your soul. It's like, oh, that's so creepy, but it's so good. And that's the song that all the real K pop idols, the boy bands, are doing their own interpretations of. They get dressed up wearing their, like, black outfits with the gut, the traditional hat, the got. And they look fantastic. And I was like, whenever have, you know, superstar bands copied an animated character? But they're all into it. I don't know, I never thought I'd see this day. And it's kind of cool.
Jaeha Kim
It's infectious.
Regina Barber
Yes.
Stephen Thompson
And I think it's so impressive that the songs that they have written for Huntrix and the songs that they have written for Saja Boys are kind of on a level playing field. Like, they are both great. You understand why people love the music of both of these groups. And so when they're pitted against each other in competition, you don't have a situation where one of them is so clearly superior to the others. Or that situation like Glass Weldon always talks about about Pitch Perfect 2 where he's like, das Sound Machine is better than the acapella group that's supposed to be beating them. But here they really are on a level playing field. And I actually was not talking about yout Idol, which is a terrific, terrific Saja Boys song. But for me, the culminating song in this film. It is so important that the last song in a movie like this hit really hard. Cause if it doesn't, it's going to deflate you at the end of this film. And sometimes when I'm really enjoying a movie, almost sort of have this, like, score keeping in my head where I'm just like, please stick the landing. Please stick the landing. The last song in this film is called what? It Sounds like we broke into a.
Regina Barber
Million pieces and we can't go back but now we're seeing all the beauty and the broken glass the stars are part of me Darkness and harmony My voice without the lies this is what.
Stephen Thompson
It sounds like it is so triumphant and I cried so hard oh, I.
Jaeha Kim
Held it in But I shouldn't have.
Stephen Thompson
I'm not one who's very good at holding it in under the best of circumstances, but to me, this song not only moved the plot along, not only was, like a big, culminating, triumphant song, it also felt in its own way, like this might be the song that has the longest shelf life from this film. It felt queer coded in a way similar to, like, the most loved songs from the Frozen movies. It reminded me of Let It Go. It reminded me of show yourself from Frozen 2, where, like, would you be surprised if you saw a production set to what it sounds like at a drag show?
Regina Barber
That would be fantastic because I would not.
Jaeha Kim
Yeah, I would go.
Stephen Thompson
And to me, it kind of feels like a payoff to some of the subtle, queer coding of, like, Rumi's arc of, like, I'm keeping this secret from the people closest to me. But now I'm living my truth. That's Stuff felt so universal and just glorious.
Jaeha Kim
The whole movie is about these things that we feel shame for. And when Meera is like, you didn't deserve a family. And I, you know, I. I felt that really strongly. And I was like, oh, family? And like, do I belong? And Zoe's like, from these two different worlds, which I also kind of have an issue about. But she was like, you're too much people around you. You're just too much for them. You're too much and you're not enough. And I almost started crying and I was like, this is such a good movie. The writing is so good. Where it picks exactly the things people are really struggling with, which isn't fair to themselves, they need to be nicer. And, like, at the very end, when people are, like, giving themselves. And in, like, this is what it sounds like when it's like, you're not doing this alone. You have friends. Like, you should be able to trust the people closest to you and you won't be let down. Don't assume that they're gonna go against you. It was so beautiful. And like, this movie is so great. Great.
Regina Barber
You could tell the love and care that went into this production. I mean, they were saying that it was seven years in the making. And you can tell it's not one of those slap dash things where it's like, woo, you know, have a cute girl band, have a cute boy band, and then have them fight. There is so much meaning. It's not just K pop. It's not just pop culture. It's not just about, you know, the differences between different types of people, which I guess demons can sort of be different types of people.
Jaeha Kim
They were people at one point.
Regina Barber
But there's so much significance to the Korean part of the K pop this movie. Even though it's an American film, it was a love story to Koreans as well, which I really appreciated that. I hope that people who watch this movie will listen to K pop with little more than just like, oh, you know, it's just something silly that little kids like. It's like there's a whole history to it. I mean, K pop literally stands for Korean pop music. And now, of course, it's kind of code for Korean idol music, which is a little bit different, but there's a whole history to it that I hope people appreciate.
Stephen Thompson
Well, that kind of brings me to my last question here, right? Where do you think audiences for this film should go from here? If they're interested in exploring K pop more deeply? If they're interested in exploring Certain animation styles more deeply, where do people go? Like, if they've fallen in love with this movie, they're streaming the soundtrack. They're listening to this conversation excitedly because they're like, why hasn't pop culture happy hour covered K Pop Demon hunters? Where should newbies go from here?
Regina Barber
Musically, I think a great start for them would be twice who. Three of the members, you know, sing takedown twice version in the track. They're, you know, an amazing K pop group, and I think that a band like that can help open doors into the K pop that isn't just being produced right now, but that has a history from a few years ago. And, you know, I hope that they do check into, like, there's this whole thing on social media about, like, you know, who are the Saja boys supposed to be? You know, are they supposed to be BTS Monsta X, you know, Astro Wonho? So I hope that they take these people that these bands that everybody's talking about and actually go and listen to some of the music, and I think they'll be pleasantly surprised.
Jaeha Kim
My mom is from Taiwan. I've watched, like, Taiwan dramas that are, like, funny romantic comedies, but I've never watched a K drama, so I think, like, I recognized the scene in the movie where he, like, bumps her, and it's very similar to the, like, Taiwan drama I watched. Right. So I'm like, oh, if I like this, maybe I should go and find out what the best K drama in the last 10 years was and, like, just binge that, you know? Like, that's what I think.
Regina Barber
Yeah. Go watch squid game. They have that same sweet sentiment. No, Right?
Stephen Thompson
Exactly. Very, very similar.
Regina Barber
Yes.
Stephen Thompson
Yeah. It is safe to say we enjoyed this movie pretty much without reservation.
Jaeha Kim
Yeah. No reservations.
Regina Barber
We have nothing to fight about.
Stephen Thompson
Yeah. Most people listening are gonna feel the same way if they don't already. This film is so fun. We want to know what you think about K pop Demon hunters. Find us@facebook.com PCHH that brings us to the end of our show. Jaeha Kim, Regina Barber, thanks so much for being here.
Regina Barber
Thank you. This is so much fun, you guys.
Jaeha Kim
Thank you so much.
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Pop Culture Happy Hour: “KPop Demon Hunters” Episode Summary
Release Date: July 17, 2025
In this vibrant episode of NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour, host Stephen Thompson delves into the phenomenon surrounding Netflix's animated blockbuster, "K Pop Demon Hunters." Joined by Regina Barber, host and reporter for NPR's Science podcast Short Wave, and Jaeha Kim, a syndicated columnist for the Chicago Tribune, the trio explores the film's impact on pop culture, its catchy soundtrack, and its portrayal of the K-pop universe.
Stephen Thompson sets the stage by highlighting the unexpected rise of K Pop Demon Hunters, noting its climb to number two on the Billboard albums chart, bolstered by impressive streaming numbers. The animated film centers around the all-female K-pop group Huntrix, composed of Rumi, Mira, and Zoe, who double as protectors of humanity battling demonic forces led by Gima Soon. The narrative introduces the rival boy band, Saja Boys, whose members are demons, adding layers of complexity to the storyline.
“K Pop Demon Hunters is a phenomenon with a soundtrack that's climbing the Billboard charts and a fandom rivaling that of just about any K pop idol.” — Stephen Thompson [00:21]
Jaeha Kim shares her initial skepticism, having settled in to watch the film with her family, only to be captivated by its engaging plot and vibrant visuals around the 15-minute mark.
“We were sitting there and we're like, oh, this will be fun. We like cartoons. And then literally, like, minute 15 and a half or something, we're just like, what is this movie? We were, like, loving it.” — Jaeha Kim [04:39]
Regina Barber echoes this sentiment, praising the film's animation quality and attention to detail, remarking on how the visuals enhance the musical experience.
“The visuals just, like, blow it, like, three times better, right?” — Jaeha Kim [05:16]
A significant portion of the discussion centers on the film's soundtrack, which seamlessly blends catchy K-pop tunes with the narrative. Stephen Thompson emphasizes the importance of having high-quality music to complement the story, preventing the plot from feeling deflated.
“If these songs were not superior K pop songs, this film would fall really flat.” — Stephen Thompson [07:56]
Notable tracks like "Soda Pop" by Saja Boys and "Golden"—a contender for the Academy Awards' Best Original Song—are highlighted for their infectious melodies and lyrical depth.
“Soda Pop is a Saja Boys song, and it is so catchy. You completely understand how this song would kind of capture people's imaginations.” — Stephen Thompson [08:20]
The hosts delve into the film's inclusive portrayal of K-pop fandom, breaking stereotypes by showcasing a diverse range of fans—from young enthusiasts to older admirers. Regina Barber appreciates the film's authenticity in representing the real diversity within K-pop audiences.
“They have like grown men crying. They have like people in their 20s, they have people in their 60s dancing. You know, it's. I loved it so much.” — Jaeha Kim [11:12]
Jaeha Kim also commends the film's depiction of strong family dynamics and the representation of middle-aged Asian women, adding depth to the narrative.
“As a middle aged Asian woman, the, you know, mother figure. She still looked really good with just a little bit of gray hair.” — Jaeha Kim [11:39]
The conversation shifts to the broader cultural implications of the film. Stephen Thompson argues that K Pop Demon Hunters serves as a gateway for international audiences to explore K-pop beyond mainstream perceptions, challenging the notion that it's merely "fluff" or "kiddie stuff."
“This movie embraces this world and understands this world and embodies this world.” — Stephen Thompson [12:18]
Regina Barber adds that the film pays homage to the rich history of Korean pop music, encouraging viewers to appreciate its depth and evolution.
“I hope that people who watch this movie will listen to K pop with little more than just like, oh, you know, it's just something silly that little kids like.” — Regina Barber [18:50]
The hosts discuss the film's emotional depth, particularly how it addresses themes of self-acceptance, belonging, and the pressures faced by performers. Jaeha Kim reflects on the poignant moments that resonate on a personal level, fostering empathy and connection with the characters.
“The whole movie is about these things that we feel shame for. And when Meera is like, you didn't deserve a family... it was so beautiful.” — Jaeha Kim [17:32]
Stephen Thompson likens the film's climactic finale to iconic moments from beloved animated features, underscoring its universal appeal.
“The last song in this film... it also felt in its own way, like this might be the song that has the longest shelf life from this film.” — Stephen Thompson [16:25]
Wrapping up, the hosts offer guidance for newcomers eager to delve deeper into K-pop and related cultural phenomena. Regina Barber suggests starting with established groups like Twice, while Jaeha Kim recommends exploring acclaimed K-dramas to further appreciate the storytelling rooted in Korean culture.
“If you like this, maybe I should go and find out what the best K drama in the last 10 years was and, like, just binge that.” — Jaeha Kim [20:32]
The episode concludes with unanimous praise for K Pop Demon Hunters. Both Regina Barber and Jaeha Kim express their wholehearted endorsement, highlighting the film's blend of entertainment, cultural appreciation, and emotional storytelling.
“We have nothing to fight about. It is so fun.” — Regina Barber & Jaeha Kim [21:10]
Stephen Thompson invites listeners to share their thoughts, reflecting the show's inclusive and engaging spirit.
“This episode was produced by Carly Rubin and Mike Katsiff and edited by our showrunner, Jessica Reedy.” — Stephen Thompson [21:29]
K Pop Demon Hunters emerges as a multifaceted work that not only entertains but also bridges cultural gaps, offering a fresh perspective on the global influence of K-pop. Through its compelling narrative and chart-topping music, the film invites audiences to explore the rich tapestry of Korean pop culture with enthusiasm and appreciation.
Join the Conversation: Share your thoughts on K Pop Demon Hunters with us on Facebook at @PCHH and become part of the vibrant pop culture discussion.