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Episode: Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere And What’s Making Us Happy

Date: October 24, 2025
Host(s): Linda Holmes, Stephen Thompson, Guest: Chris Klimek

Overview

This episode centers on the new film Springsteen: Deliver Me From Nowhere, starring Jeremy Allen White as Bruce Springsteen, and explores its portrayal of the making of Springsteen’s legendary album Nebraska. The hosts critically evaluate the biopic’s departure from genre tropes, its focus on male friendship, artistic integrity, and mental health, and discuss the film’s resonance with fans both casual and die-hard. They finish with their signature "What's Making Us Happy" recommendations, thematically linking their picks to themes in the film.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. General Impressions and Biopic Tropes

• Stephen Thompson admits skepticism toward biopics, especially music biopics, due to their reliance on clichés. However, he finds Deliver Me From Nowhere “one of the best music biopics that I’ve seen.”
  • "What I love about this film is that in a way, Springsteen’s story is an inversion of a lot of the music stories ... In this case ... you wind up getting ... a love letter to male friendship, a love letter to extremely effective management, and a love letter to having a great team of people around you.” (03:04)
• Linda Holmes shares concern that Walk Hard ruined sincere music biopics but appreciates that this film avoids the "cradle to grave" arc, focusing instead on one creative turning point.
• Both hosts praise the film for sticking closely to the specific, rather than indulging in broad mythology or overdone tropes.

2. Jeremy Allen White’s Performance as Springsteen

• Universally praised by the hosts.
• Holmes: "I just think this Jeremy Allen White performance is extraordinary. And I think he's riveting ... it doesn’t feel like a caricature to me." (10:21)
• Chris Klimek, initially worried it would feel “embarrassing,” found himself impressed after a second viewing:
  • "I am pleased. This is not the disaster that I feared, and I think probably a pretty good movie about what we all want to know. The mystery of where great art comes from and at what cost." (06:59)

3. The Focus on Nebraska: Creative Integrity vs. Commercial Pressure

• The film hones in on Springsteen’s decision to record the lo-fi, somber Nebraska instead of commercial material, defying label expectations:
  • Holmes observes, "This is not ‘here’s how he got to Born in the USA'. If anything, this is where he pumps the brakes on that.” (07:54)
• Both Chris and Stephen note the film does not glamorize suffering for art, but highlights the importance of artistic judgment:
  • "He has the good aesthetic to recognize that the songs ... when they're played with the E Street Band ... are not as powerful as they are on that lo-fi cassette ... and that was clearly the right choice." (16:13, Klimek)

4. Male Friendship, Management, and Emotional Support

• Thompson points to the centrality of Springsteen's relationship with manager John Landau (played by Jeremy Strong):
  • “The performance by Jeremy Strong is ...bearing out over and over … that this guy cares very deeply about Springsteen, wants to do right by Springsteen at every turn.” (03:44)
• The emotional and physical affection between Springsteen and Landau, as depicted in the film, resonated:
  • “The way this film depicts ... warm, kind, intimate friendships I really found powerful. It really showed me something I don't always see in these movies about the support networks that are necessary to make this lone genius a success.” (13:39, Thompson)

5. Mental Health and Breaking the “Tortured Genius” Mold

• The episode highlights how the film treats Springsteen’s depression, not as a tragic flaw, but as an addressable reality:
  • Holmes: "It is really a relief to see a story where a big part ... of how he sort of restores himself is by actually going to the doctor ... instead of ... 'the love interest cures him.'” (15:06)
• Klimek connects personally to Springsteen's openness about depression, recalling:
  • "That family history of undiagnosed depression ... I connected with that so vividly. ... Even then, as a teenager, before Bruce came out about all this, that was present in the music." (12:10)

6. Audience—Who Is This Movie For?

• Chris Klimek questions the intended audience, noting the film references deep cuts that might puzzle casual viewers, but Holmes argues the specificity creates universal emotional resonance.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the performance:
  • “He doesn’t sound exactly like Springsteen, especially in the slower kind of Nebraska numbers. But I think he's got the feel.” (Linda Holmes, 10:21)
• On male friendship:
  • “The way this film depicts these friendships ... I really found powerful.” (Stephen Thompson, 13:39)
• On mental health in the film:
  • “In this, he goes to the doctor. ... And I love to see that in a fictionalized story." (Linda Holmes, 15:06)
• On creative stubbornness:
  • “It is a story about an artist who had the power to be stubborn and was stubborn and was right ... that is so welcome in my soul right now.” (Linda Holmes, 17:20)

Important Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |:--------------|:----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:20-01:49 | Film’s premise; Jeremy Allen White’s singing; setup of the Springsteen/Nebraska story | | 02:27 | Stephen Thompson opens critical discussion of biopic genre and this film’s strengths | | 04:54 | Chris Klimek on initial skepticism and reflections after second viewing | | 07:57 | Discussion: film’s focus on a creative moment, not just mythology | | 10:21 | Praise for Jeremy Allen White’s performance and depiction of Springsteen’s voice/energy | | 12:10 | Chris Klimek connects with Springsteen’s depiction of depression and family history | | 13:39 | Stephen Thompson on male friendship and emotional support in the film | | 15:06 | Linda Holmes on mental health realism—therapy vs. “love cures all” tropes | | 17:20 | Holmes reflects on the film’s affirmation of artistic stubbornness over algorithmic art | | 19:52 | “What’s Making Us Happy” segment | | 20:02 | Chris recommends Topsy-Turvy | | 20:46 | Stephen recommends Noah Kahan's Stick Season | | 22:47 | Linda recommends Springsteen’s We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions |

"What's Making Us Happy" This Week

1. Chris Klimek:

   • Topsy-Turvy (1999 film), about Gilbert & Sullivan’s process, which also explores where great art comes from (20:02).

2. Stephen Thompson:

   • Noah Kahan’s album Stick Season. Only recently “got” it after seeing Kahan live. Praises the blending of folk, pop, and “big sad sack energy.” (20:46)

3. Linda Holmes:

   • Springsteen’s We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions, tying the folk legacy of murder ballads and outlaw songs back to Nebraska and Springsteen’s ongoing engagement with American folk traditions (22:47).

Tone & Style

The discussion is thoughtful, analytical, and warm—marked by a mixture of fan enthusiasm and genre savvy skepticism. The hosts riff on each other’s personal history with Springsteen, are candid about their own baggage with music biopics, and frequently relate elements of the film and music to broader trends in art and culture.

Takeaways

• Deliver Me From Nowhere succeeds by focusing tightly on the making of Nebraska and Springsteen’s emotional landscape, not his entire legendary career.
• Jeremy Allen White delivers a nuanced, moving, and respectful performance as Springsteen.
• The film excels in depicting non-romantic male intimacy and robust support networks, and eschews the tortured genius stereotype to give an honest look at mental health.
• Listeners interested in music biopics, the creative process, or Springsteen’s artistry will find much to appreciate, regardless of how deep their Boss fandom runs.

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