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Linda Holmes
Some bands are the Beatles, some singers are Beyonce, smash after smash, their legend.
Stephen Thompson
Green Rose and some artists aren't for any one of a bunch of reasons. Commercial, artistic, mysterious. They have one big hit, but they don't have others. I'm Stephen Thompson.
Linda Holmes
And I'm Linda Holmes. And today on NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour, we're debating what is the best one hit wonder of all time.
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Linda Holmes
Joining us today is our co host, Aisha Harris. Hello, Aisha.
Aisha Harris
Hello to you both. I am very excited to talk about this with you.
Linda Holmes
Ne one of you would ever be a one hit wonder in my book. Steven, since you are our music guy and you cover the charts, you have always been a Billboard charts guy. How do we define a one hit wonder? What is the fair definition of a one hit wonder?
Stephen Thompson
Well, it's interesting because just the phrase one hit wonder implies that there are rules and they are rigidly applied. And if you have one hit and no others, you are a one hit wonder. It is one of the most commonly misused phrases in music because artists get tagged as one hit wonders when they have multiple hits. This drives me berserk. You know who's not a one hit wonder? Vanilla Ice. Animotion. Men Without Hats. Aha. These artists all had more than one top 40 hit. In some cases, they had more than one top 10 hit. The other thing that I would argue would disqualify somebody as a one hit wonder is somebody who like checks all the boxes of like, if you look at the charts, they only ever had one charting song and that song charted in the top 10. Therefore they have to be considered a one hit wonder. But if your cultural footprint is vastly larger than one song, I don't think you are a one hit wonder. You know who is technically a one hit wonder? The Grateful Dead. Yeah, Fiona Apple. These are not one hit wonders. And they often make lists of like the best one hit wonders of all time or whatever. But it's like, come on man. Like, okay, yes, technically, according to the such and such rules of the road, they would qualify as a one hit wonder. But you would never say Fiona Apple's cultural footprint consists of criminal.
Linda Holmes
Well, and when people are talking about that, it's fun to talk about one hit wonders. And like what one hit wonders do you remember or love? They're not talking about. I mean, if you say Grateful Dead, you're gonna be kicked out of your cocktail party. Cause you're. Well, actually person who's like. Well actually my favorite one hit wonder is Fiona Apple. It's unfortunate that Glenn Weldon is not here to do the voice for us because his would be better than mine.
Aisha Harris
But yeah, that was a good impression, Linda. That was a pretty good Glenn.
Linda Holmes
Pretty good Glenn. Doing a snobby person at a party.
Aisha Harris
Yes, yes.
Stephen Thompson
I think there's one more rule that I don't necessarily know how to apply, but something that's worth considering is that there are artists who are considered one hit wonders who've had tons and tons and tons of hits in other countries. And what, what do you do about an Aha, which is one of the biggest bands in Norway for decades, just because Take On Me is the song everybody remembers them for. And they also had another top 20 hit. They had long, long, very fruitful career. Take Me on take on the A go. The group Tapow in the 80s had this huge hit called Heart and Soul. They were a classic US One hit wonder, but they were one of the biggest bands in Britain for years and years and years, I'm sure entirely what to do with those. But it's worth also mentioning that in some cases, one hit wonder is a US specific phenomenon that ignores the entire rest of the world.
Linda Holmes
Right. I think there was a lot of that with British bands in the 80s, your kajagoogous and stuff like that.
Aisha Harris
Someone like Adele is very rare that a British artist is able to come over here and then also maintain that sort of status in a way. But I think these are good rules. I think these are good things to go by. And it's more or less what I was going by when I made my choice so.
Linda Holmes
Well, Steven, since you've done the hard work of explaining the rules, which of course are the most fun part of any discussion of this kind, I'm gonna give you the honor of giving us your pick for favorite one hit wonder. You can go first.
Stephen Thompson
All right, now this is gonna sound like a non sequitur, but bear with me. I wanna talk quickly about jock jams.
Aisha Harris
Yes. Love jock jams.
Stephen Thompson
So many one hit wonders become stadium staples.
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Stephen Thompson
Like somehow cross over into stadium permanence where they're constantly heard on the wind, particularly at sporting events. Who Let the Dogs out by the Baja Men Classic One hit wonder. That's a jock jam. The Macarena.
Linda Holmes
Is the Macarena a jock jam?
Aisha Harris
It was on a Jock Jams album.
Linda Holmes
All right, go ahead, go ahead.
Stephen Thompson
I mean, you'll see people doing the Macarena in stadiums to this day, but I want to talk about one of the least appropriate and most unlikely jock jams of all time. It was a hit in 1998. Holmesy, you're gonna know. You're gonna sense where I'm going with this. I wanna talk about Flagpole Sitta.
Aisha Harris
Oh, my goodness.
Stephen Thompson
By the band Harvey Dangerous. Now, Flagpole Sita is a quintessential 90s song about feeling alienated from mass culture to the point where it literally includes the line, I don't even own Sean Nelson, who is the lead singer of Harvey Danger. Sean Nelson writing a jock jam is like Glen Weldon writing a jock jam.
Linda Holmes
It's true.
Stephen Thompson
He's like a tortured intellectual. Also, just like an incredibly gifted songwriter. One of the reasons I want to talk about Harvey Danger is to recommend to people. If you only know Harvey Danger for Flagpole Sitta, Harvey Danger never put out a bad song. They made three records and a compilation of kind of odds and ends. And every one of those songs is great.
Linda Holmes
That's a great band.
Stephen Thompson
Such a great band. But the one song that crossed over, the one song that hit the Hot 100, the one song that most people remember Harvey Danger for is Flagpole Said it. Let's actually hear a little bit of it.
Linda Holmes
What if you're poor Then you're pouring.
Stephen Thompson
The agony and the irony they're killing.
Linda Holmes
Me Whoa, I'm not sick but I'm not well.
Stephen Thompson
And I'm so hot.
Aisha Harris
I don't know if I've ever heard this in a stadium.
Stephen Thompson
I mean, it was Anna Jock Jam's compilation.
Linda Holmes
Okay.
Aisha Harris
Yeah, you're right. I guess I think of it more as, like, a karaoke staple. But, yeah.
Stephen Thompson
And what a great karaoke song.
Aisha Harris
It is a fun karaoke song if.
Stephen Thompson
We can just take a second to acknowledge that. The line, but if you're bored, then you're boring. That is such a great insight. And I think about that as a parent. I have quoted Sean Nelson to my kids. If you're bored, then you're boring is a great reminder and such a great counterpoint to so much of. As much as this song embodies a lot of 90s kind of nihilism and posturing and I don't know where I fit in and angst and all that, taking a step back and saying, if you're bored, then you're boring as a counterpoint to so much 90s music about, like, I'm bored, I'm frustrated, I have nothing to do all day is really jarring and makes this song stand out. But also, you just listen to it. And, Bruce, what a. What momentum this song has. What a jolt of energy it is. How Excited I am every time it comes on the radio to this day.
Linda Holmes
Yeah.
Stephen Thompson
This is a great one hit wonder by a great band. And you can just really drop the proverbial needle anywhere in this band's catalog and you're here, you're gonna hear something great.
Linda Holmes
Yeah. This is such a good pick because this is exactly the kind of thing that I mean when I say, like some bands, the fact that they're a one hit wonder, even though they absolutely are, has nothing to do with whether it's a great band that you should go and explore more of when you're going jock jams.
Aisha Harris
This was not what I was expecting, but I'm into it.
Linda Holmes
There's so many ways to go.
Aisha Harris
Yeah. So many ways to go.
Linda Holmes
Yeah. All right, thank you very much. Stephen Thompson, Flagpole Sita, Harvey Danger. Just go listen. Just go listen. All right, Aisha, you are up next. What is your pick?
Aisha Harris
Okay, this is very hard to do. I went through all of Steven's list of what's the criteria? So that windowed it down a little bit, but then it didn't freely because there were just so many that I wanted to talk about. I won't mention them in case one of them might be Linda's. We don't know what they are. So I went with one that I think is like a really, really true to the bone one hit wonder. I would be surprised if people who didn't live in the 80s know this song. The only reason I know it is because my parents, back in the day when you would tape songs off of the radio, my parents taped like an entire two hour block of the radio station, the New York radio station wbls, which always had on Sundays, like an old school soul R and B radio mix. And so we had this tape probably from like 1990, 91. Played it over and over, and this song was on it. And this song is called Mama Used to Say by Junior, a black British R B singer who literally only had this one hit in the us. Let's hear a little bit of it. And Mama Used to Say, live your. Stephen, do you know this song?
Stephen Thompson
I don't know this song.
Aisha Harris
Oh, my God. Okay, so here's the thing. It reached number 30 on the Hot 100 in 1982, and it peaked at number two on the Billboard's Hot R and B Hip Hop Songs chart. But you might recognize it a little bit because it's been sampled a lot. Yeah, it's been sampled by Heavy D, it's been sampled by Warren G, and also positive K'S hit I Got a Man.
Stephen Thompson
Speaking of.
Aisha Harris
Yes, another One Hit Wonder.
Stephen Thompson
Great One Hit Wonder. That song's amazing.
Aisha Harris
Yes, a great One Hit Wonder. But it's kind of like an updated version of the Shirelles. Mama said. It's like, this is what my mom said. I'm taking all this to heart. But it's to this incredibly funky beat with all of these synth sounds. You have some percussion. You didn't hear it. But the song starts with just this. And there's horns and there's that guitar riff and. And the music video. Go to YouTube. Watch this music video. This dude is dressed in, like, a suit, and he's doing, like, some, like, footwork, and he's doing, like, some funky chicken stuff against this, like, very crude early 1980s drawings of, like, houses and stuff. He just looks so joyous and happy. And he's just like, mama used to stay. And it's just like. And this is literally the only song I know by Junior. I know he's done other things, and he seems to. Speaking of, like, artists who have one hit here and then are more famous in other places, like, he's kind of a legend, you know, in the uk, so there's that. But I just love this song. And I wanted to pick a song for this that, like, perhaps a lot of our listeners maybe are not familiar with, but that they should be familiar with because it's just fun. It's just a fun song with a. With a little message about listening to your mother, assuming your mother is telling you things that you should be learning.
Stephen Thompson
As soon as we're done taping, I'm immediately going to YouTube. That's thing one.
Aisha Harris
Yes.
Stephen Thompson
It's also interesting. Like, I think of myself as such a child of the 80s in so many ways. My family got MTV in 1983, and I started obsessively transcribing the Billboard charts in 1984. It's so wild how, like, if you had picked any song from 1984, I would be like, oh, that hit number 17 on the Billboard 100. But because it was 1982, I'm like, here There Be Dragons. Like, I didn't even know this song existed. And now I just want to, like, dig up billboard charts from 1982 and listen to a bunch of stuff.
Aisha Harris
1982. Yeah.
Linda Holmes
All right. So that was Mama used to say by Junior. Thank you very much, Aisha Harris. We were all given a good chair dance to that one. So it clearly got its claws in all of us very quickly. All right, so when I was pondering what to pick for this. One of the things that I realized as I looked at, you know, various lists of one hit wonders. Cause you're always just trying to, like, spark your thinking. Right. When I was a young person in the 1980s, I would say there were a certain number of what I would classify as novelty hits.
Stephen Thompson
Oh, yeah.
Linda Holmes
And I don't think we really have novelty songs in the same way. Right. It's almost like a song that, like, somebody is singing and it goes viral on whatever video platform, but it's not like on the radio. Like, this was played on the radio with regular music.
Aisha Harris
Yeah.
Linda Holmes
I went with pure novelty. Hit it.
Stephen Thompson
General Hospital.
Linda Holmes
General Hospital, yeah. So that is General Hospital by the Afternoon Delights, a band I'm sure that you are all familiar with.
Aisha Harris
Oh, my God. Are they saying General Hospital?
Stephen Thompson
General Hospital. This is like the Pac Man Fever of soap operas. But it's like the story of General Hospital. I remember.
Linda Holmes
Well, maybe it's spelled General Hospital. T, A, L, E. They pronounce it General Hospital. Okay. So this song, that's the chorus. But the bulk of this song consists entirely of a spoken. I don't want to say rapped. That seems wrong. But it's the moment where, like, Blondie was doing rapture and stuff like that, where, you know, and the waitresses were doing Christmas wrapping and the kind of talk, singing.
Aisha Harris
Right.
Linda Holmes
The plot lines of General Hospital.
Stephen Thompson
It started out in poor Charlestown where.
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Linda Holmes
No one could prove that he was a crook.
Stephen Thompson
Til Luke stole his little black hook.
Linda Holmes
So this song came out in 1981, and it's roughly the moment in which General Hospital is hugely popular. Even more than like it was at other times.
Stephen Thompson
This is peak. Luke and Laura.
Linda Holmes
This is the Luke and Laura section. It captures a moment in time and everything that was going on on General Hospital at the time. So you get these things that are like, she's not crazy. No, no, never. She just wants to get Dr. Jeff Weber. Right. It also manages to capture the moment. Richard Simmons was appearing on General Hospital as himself. Oh, God. And so there's a little line about Richard Simmons is helping everybody get in shape. I went back and listened to this and I thought if you took 1981 and you reduced it down to a single particle, the single particle would be this song. Unlike things that are timeless, this is literally about what is on television at the moment. The person writing the song has the TV on.
Aisha Harris
It's like an award show when the host, like, makes up the song totally.
Linda Holmes
It's exactly like an award show. I mean, for one thing, it's disco is. The other thing is, in addition to being soap operas, it's pure disco. That is disco.
Aisha Harris
When disco was basically dead at that point, for the most part, other than Donna Summer, I guess, dying.
Linda Holmes
Dying, like on the downswing. But like, obviously, as we all know, what we call the 70s was the 70s and early 80s, and what we call the 80s was the 80s and early 90s, et cetera. So disco still was around, but it was turning into this. That's kind of the point. And so I felt that the Afternoon Delights, which is the name of the band that of course did General Hospital, I felt that they really epitomized for me the concept of the one hit. Wonderful. Because I can't imagine that it would hurt their feelings to be a one hit wonder. One hit is one more hit than these people, I guarantee you ever expected to have.
Stephen Thompson
It's one more hit than I've ever had.
Linda Holmes
Yeah, it's one more hit than any of us have ever had. Right. One hit is one hit. More than zero hits. And it's only one hit, less than two hits. And that's pretty good.
Aisha Harris
Yeah.
Stephen Thompson
One thing I like about this is it's not just like there are some artists where it's like your one moment of genius, right? Like, you only had one great song in you. That song was a hit and you couldn't duplicate it. That's the story of some one hit wonders. But then there are ones that are like, could only have come out, as you said, Linda, in this, like, carbon dated sliver of 1981, where it's one hit and it's frozen in its time, as opposed to, you have made one timeless classic.
Linda Holmes
And it's like disco is somewhat lost to time to some degree. Right? Disco as a current thing is lost to time.
Stephen Thompson
First wave disco.
Linda Holmes
Yeah.
Aisha Harris
Yeah. I mean, tell that to Dua Lipa, like she did.
Linda Holmes
Well, I was just gonna say, like, disco. What I'm saying is, like, this version of disco is somewhat lost to time. Soap operas, which still exist, people still love them. But as something that was currency at the level that General Hospital was when this song came out. Cause I'm telling you, you have no reason to believe me if you were born after 1990. But they played this song on the radio. I believe that it was number 33 on the Hot 100. A song with a plot summary of General hospital was number 33 on the Billboard Hot 100. And I feel that unlike most bands, this band, again, the Afternoon Delights, is well served by being referred to as the one hit wonders behind the song General Hospital.
Aisha Harris
I think this is amazing. I've never heard this before and I'm so glad I know it exists now.
Linda Holmes
Can't do better with a one hit wonder than a novelty song. Bring back novelty songs, that's what I say. All right, we want to know what you think is the best one hit wonder. Find us@facebook.com that brings us to the end of our show. Aisha Harris, Stephen Thompson, thank you so much for being here. You are both hit after hit after hit.
Stephen Thompson
Aw, thanks, buddy.
Aisha Harris
Thank you.
Linda Holmes
This episode is produced by Hafsa Fathoma, Liz Metzger and Lennon Sherburn and edited by Mike Katsif. Our supervising producer is Jessica Reedy. And hello. Come in provides our theme music. Thanks for listening to Pop Culture Happy Hour from npr. I'm Linda Holmes and we'll see you all next time. I just can't cope without my soap.
Stephen Thompson
Without my soap.
Linda Holmes
General Hospital.
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Pop Culture Happy Hour - The Best One-Hit Wonders
Episode Summary | Release Date: January 14, 2025
Introduction
In the January 14, 2025 episode of NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour, hosts Linda Holmes, Stephen Thompson, and Aisha Harris delve into the nostalgic and often quirky world of one-hit wonders. The discussion explores what qualifies a song or artist as a one-hit wonder, the cultural impact of these fleeting successes, and each host's personal favorite examples that encapsulate the essence of a one-hit phenomenon.
Defining One-Hit Wonders
The conversation kicks off with Linda Holmes posing the central question: "How do we define a one-hit wonder? What is the fair definition of a one-hit wonder?" (03:20). Stephen Thompson provides a nuanced perspective, emphasizing that the term is frequently misapplied. "The phrase one hit wonder implies that there are rules and they are rigidly applied," he explains (03:36). Thompson cautions against labeling artists like Vanilla Ice or A-ha as one-hit wonders when they have multiple hits, sometimes even international successes. He asserts, "If your cultural footprint is vastly larger than one song, I don't think you are a one-hit wonder" (05:00).
Stephen Thompson's Pick: "Flagpole Sitta" by Harvey Danger
Stephen Thompson takes the lead in selecting his favorite one-hit wonder: "Flagpole Sitta" by Harvey Danger. He presents the song as an unexpected yet quintessential example of a one-hit wonder that transcends its initial categorization. "Flagpole Sitta is a quintessential 90s song about feeling alienated from mass culture," Thompson remarks (07:35). He highlights the song's enduring energy and its capacity to resonate across generations, despite the band's limited chart success beyond this single track.
Thompson also touches on the longevity and quality of Harvey Danger's other work, stating, "Harvey Danger never put out a bad song. They made three records and a compilation of kind of odds and ends. And every one of those songs is great" (08:30). This underscores his argument that one-hit wonders often have more to offer than their fleeting chart presence suggests.
Aisha Harris' Pick: "Mama Used to Say" by Junior
Aisha Harris introduces her pick, "Mama Used to Say" by Junior, a black British R&B singer who achieved limited recognition in the United States. She shares a personal anecdote about discovering the song through her parents' radio tapes, emphasizing its nostalgic charm. "It's a really, really true to the bone one-hit wonder," Harris explains (11:09).
The song reached number 30 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1982 and number two on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, but it remains largely unknown outside specific circles. Harris appreciates the song's funky beat and meaningful lyrics, highlighting its continued relevance through extensive sampling by artists like Heavy D and Warren G. "It's just a fun song with a little message about listening to your mother," she notes (13:05). Her selection underscores the diversity within the one-hit wonder landscape, celebrating tracks that may not dominate mainstream charts but hold cultural significance.
Linda Holmes' Pick: "General Hospital" by Afternoon Delights
Linda Holmes opts for "General Hospital" by the Afternoon Delights as her favorite one-hit wonder, illustrating the perfect blend of novelty and cultural snapshot. She describes the song as a "pure novelty hit," capturing the zeitgeist of early 1980s soap operas (16:26). The track is characterized by its spoken-word style, summarizing plotlines from the popular television show General Hospital, and encapsulating a specific moment in time.
Holmes emphasizes the song's uniqueness, stating, "It's literally about what is on television at the moment. The person writing the song has the TV on." (17:30). She appreciates how the song serves as a time capsule, reflecting the transient nature of pop culture phenomena. The inclusion of contemporary references, such as Richard Simmons appearing on the show, adds to its charm and historical value.
Discussion on Novelty Songs and the Evolution of One-Hit Wonders
The hosts further explore the concept of novelty songs and their relationship with one-hit wonders. Linda Holmes observes the rarity of pure novelty hits in today's music landscape, comparing them to viral sensations that lack the radio presence of past decades. "I went with pure novelty hit it," she states (15:57), referencing the Afternoon Delights' track as an exemplar.
Stephen Thompson reflects on the temporal confinement of certain one-hit wonders, noting how some songs are "carbon dated" to their era, making them unlikely to achieve the same resonance outside their original context (19:29). This discussion highlights the evolving nature of one-hit wonders, shaped by changes in media consumption and cultural trends.
Aisha Harris adds to the conversation by pointing out the limited global impact of some one-hit wonders, particularly those that achieve success in the U.S. but remain obscure elsewhere. This underscores the complexity of labeling an artist as a one-hit wonder, as international acclaim can sometimes contradict domestic classifications.
Conclusion
The episode of Pop Culture Happy Hour offers a thoughtful examination of one-hit wonders, challenging the simplistic notion of what constitutes a fleeting success in the music industry. Through engaging discussions and personal selections, hosts Linda Holmes, Stephen Thompson, and Aisha Harris illuminate the multifaceted nature of one-hit wonders, celebrating their unique place in pop culture history. Whether through the enduring energy of "Flagpole Sitta," the nostalgic groove of "Mama Used to Say," or the novelty charm of "General Hospital," the episode underscores that one-hit wonders often embody more depth and cultural significance than their label suggests.
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This comprehensive exploration of one-hit wonders not only revisits beloved tracks but also invites listeners to reconsider the lasting impact these songs have on both music and culture.