The Rip

Summary

Pop Culture Happy Hour: "The Rip"

Date: January 20, 2026
Host: Stephen Thompson (NPR)
Guests: Jordan Crucciola (writer, producer, podcast host), Roxanna Haddadi (Vulture TV critic)

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Episode Overview

This episode of Pop Culture Happy Hour dives into Netflix’s latest pulpy crime thriller, "The Rip," starring Ben Affleck and Matt Damon. The panel dissects the film’s stylistic throwbacks, ensemble cast, and overall entertainment value, with a focus on whether it successfully revives the tradition of mid-budget cop dramas or merely imitates its influences. The discussion is marked by a spectrum of reactions—from enthusiastic to underwhelmed—while exploring larger questions about “cinematic middle class,” digital streaming strategies, and actor chemistry.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Summary of "The Rip" & Initial Impressions

• Premise: After the murder of a police captain, a Miami-based team of cops set out to confiscate an unexpectedly massive stash of cartel cash, leading to paranoia, betrayal, and escalating violence. Key cast includes Affleck, Damon, Steven Yuen, Teyana Taylor, and Catalina Sandino Moreno.
• Stephen Thompson: Frames "The Rip" as a nostalgic throwback and points out its direct-to-streaming release, likening it to the pulpy, mid-budget cop movies once prevalent in theaters (03:05).
• Jordan Crucciola: Calls it “box-checky”—embracing genre conventions, “blue collar entertainment,” and touts the fun, suspense, and ensemble cast:

  “I was fully wrapped up in the suspense of this. I was having a blast with the cast and I was having a blast with the gunfights.” (04:11)

• Roxanna Haddadi: More critical, questioning the film’s ability to generate suspense and emotional investment—but acknowledges strong visuals and Affleck’s performance:

  “I personally felt like the suspense was not suspensing. But I think there are elements here that I really liked… The final 20 to 25 minutes are just like a Heat ripoff.” (06:35)

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2. Affleck-Damon Chemistry & Casting Notes

• Chemistry as a Strength:
  Stephen and Jordan highlight the undeniable, long-cultivated chemistry between Affleck and Damon as a core enjoyment factor:

  “These two guys have chemistry. They’ve always had chemistry... and that really, I think comes through here.” —Stephen (09:13)

• Supporting Cast:
  • Teyana Taylor is praised for her levity and grounded energy:

    “I thought that Teyana Taylor was great... adding a levity and sort of like a no nonsense, this is just our jobs dynamic that I really enjoyed.” —Roxanna (13:20)

  • Kyle Chandler gets mentioned as a highlight, channeling his “authoritarian guy with a little bit of a wink” phase (13:42).
  • Scott Adkins: Both Roxanna and Jordan express disappointment that action star Adkins doesn’t have an opportunity for his trademark physical set pieces—a mismatch between expectation and what is delivered (14:24–14:33).

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3. Visual Style & Genre Influences

• Miami Aesthetic: Roxanna notes the impressive visual flair, such as the “neon Lisa Frank colors” that add a distinctive tone, especially during a climactic shootout (06:35).
• Comparisons to Genre Staples: The film is repeatedly called a “Heat ripoff” for its third-act stylings; panelists discuss its throwback qualities both positively and negatively.
• Haunted House Vibe: Jordan finds a “haunted house at the end of an empty street” element to the suspense (04:11, 09:39).

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4. Streaming, Market Context, and “Cinematic Middle Class”

• Streaming Placement:
  Stephen argues the film works well as a straight-to-Netflix production—fitting today’s “basic cable” via streaming and providing solid, weekend popcorn fare (10:20, 15:41).

  “If Netflix wants to position itself as the new basic cable… I’m here for it. This film held my attention in ways I didn't necessarily expect.” (10:25)

• Production Insights:
  Roxanna highlights the Affleck-Damon production deal with Netflix, which includes rare backend bonuses for crew and cast if the movie succeeds—a throwback to when Hollywood maintained a more robust “middle class” of filmmakers and crews.

  “I really do hope that it is successful, because I think those backend bonuses were, like, very key to when Hollywood had a middle class…” (17:15)

• The Value of Mid-Budget Movies:
  Jordan and Stephen bemoan the demise of this tier of filmmaking:

  “Bring back the cinematic middle class. I think we are missing out on a lot of great movies that way and just a lot of fun movies.” —Stephen (17:37)

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5. Divergent Reactions: Popcorn Fun or Formulaic?

• Enthusiasm and “Box-Checky” Enjoyment:
  • Jordan is all-in, seeing it as a “multi bag of popcorn kind of movie”—something she’d happily recommend for a family streaming night (04:11, 05:58).
  • Stephen calls it “solid, kind of B grade… Saturday afternoon, bucket of popcorn kind of movie” (08:07).
• Underwhelmed Critique:
  • Roxanna feels the film is too safe, doesn’t innovate within its genre, and is ultimately generic despite sparks from Affleck and Damon (11:31):

    "The rip just felt like established formula and I did not feel like it was doing something particularly new or interesting."

  • She waited for a surprise third-act twist, but found none, which left her feeling let down (11:31–12:23).

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6. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Affleck’s Character:

  “He has introduced wearing a track jacket, a gold chain necklace, smoking a cigarette, and wearing a double gun like shoulder holster. This man so badly wishes that he were in Eastern Promises.” —Roxanna (07:57)

• Streaming vs. Theater Experience:

  “There are movies that really work on streaming that do not work in theaters and kind of vice versa.” —Stephen (15:41)

• On What the Film Delivers:

  “Instead of on rails where it’s boring and predictable, it’s on rails where it’s kind of zipping along.” —Stephen (13:08)

• On Cinematic Middle Class:

  “This used to be a profession where you could have a middle class life.” —Jordan (17:32)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:05] — Plot summary and intro to panelists’ initial takes
• [04:11] — Jordan’s enthusiastic, popcorn-movie review
• [06:35] — Roxanna’s critique: visual style, expectations, and Heat references
• [08:07] — Stephen’s take: throwback enjoyment and film pacing
• [09:13] — The crucial Affleck-Damon dynamic
• [10:20] — Netflix as the new “basic cable” for mid-grade thrillers
• [11:31] — Roxanna’s disappointment with the lack of narrative innovation
• [13:20] — Ensemble performances: Teyana Taylor, Kyle Chandler, Scott Adkins
• [15:41] — Discussion of streaming appeal vs. theatrical experience
• [17:11] — Affleck-Damon’s Netflix deal and “cinematic middle class”
• [17:37] — Closing thoughts on the value of mid-budget films

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Episode Tone & Final Thoughts

The conversation is lively, warm, and peppered with inside jokes and genre savvy. The hosts don’t shy away from dissecting their own expectations versus what the film delivers, maintaining a balance of nostalgia and critique.

All agree “The Rip” is, at minimum, a good fit for a Netflix night in, especially for fans of throwback action or Affleck-Damon collaborations—even if it isn’t destined to rewrite the rules. The bigger takeaway: movies like "The Rip" play an important role for audiences and the industry alike, even amid ambivalent reviews.

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Transcript

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Ben Affleck and Matt Damon famously worked together in Good Will Hunting, which won them an Oscar. Now they share the screen in the rip, which is similar to the pulpy mid budget cop movies we used to in theaters but now is being released directly to Netflix. The RIP is about a team of cops who are trying to take a huge stash of money from a drug cartel. But that work is not only dangerous but also complicated. A huge pile of illicit cash can lead to temptation and deep distrust because the presence of even one dirty cop can ruin everything. I'm Stephen Thompson and today we are talking about the RIP on Pop Culture Happy Hour from npr.

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[Stephen Thompson]

Joining me today is Jordan Crucciola. She's a writer and producer and the host of the podcast Feeling Seen on Maximum Fun. Hey Jordan.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Hello.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Happy to thank you.

[Stephen Thompson]

A pleasure to have you. Also with us is Vulture TV critic Roxanna Haddadi Hey, Roxanna.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Hello. Thank you for having me.

[Stephen Thompson]

Oh, it is always a pleasure. In the opening moments of the rip, a police team's captain is murdered. Soon thereafter, they act on a tip about a stash of drug money outside Miami. They assemble a team, including a money sniffing dog, to confiscate it. That team includes not only the cops played by Affleck and Damon, but also ones played by Steven Yun and Tiana Taylor and Catalina Sandino Moreno. As they encounter more money than they expected, the case grows increasingly complicated.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

How much was the tip that came in?

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Said 300 grand.

[Stephen Thompson]

The crime stopper tip that just got.

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Called in said three. 300. 300.

[Stephen Thompson]

More in trouble. JD yeah, a lot. Soon, various stakeholders, local cops, the DEA, other feds, cartel bosses, and the homeowner whose property contains the money. Their presence felt. But there's also increasing paranoia and distrust from within the team's ranks. The rip is streaming on Netflix now. Jordan Crucciola, I'm gonna start with you. What'd you think of the rip?

[Jordan Crucciola]

I had a great time. This is like a box checky kind of movie. Like this is Cops. Is this Dirty Cops. This is a stash house. It's even Miami. It's Florida crime. And like the ensemble you mentioned addition, there's Kyle Chandler is here. You love to see Kyle Chandler in a uniform. Of any kind. I. Of any kind. I'm so into Dirt Bag Damon. I'm thinking of like Matt Damon getting these like surprising, incredibly like satisfying meal turns. Like, I'm thinking of him in the last duel playing one of the roles of his life. I'm thinking of him in this. I'm so into Dirtbag Affleck. Blue collar in this movie as the bilingual and angry cop whose brother is Scott Adkins. And in like an internal affairs investigator in this movie. And honestly, it functioned very effectively for me. Is a haunted house movie at points like this has like haunted house at the end of an empty street, kind of like a misty evening. I was fully wrapped up in the suspense of this. I was having a blast with the cast and I was having a blast with the gunfights. This is blue collar entertainment as our characters are portrayed on screen. And I think it's a great little Friday night multi bag of popcorn kind of movie.

[Stephen Thompson]

Okay, like Miami Vice, but really grubby, grubby, grubby.

[Jordan Crucciola]

And God, you know, what a great example of the movies that come out in an Oscar campaign's year. You have like Amanda Seyfried, Testament of Van Lee. But then she's making the housemaid. You have Teyana Taylor getting her awards for one battle after another. And in the meantime, she's in that Ryan Murphy show. And this, like the things adjacent to an Oscar campaign. A great, like, Hollywood anthropological study.

[Stephen Thompson]

All right, so Jordan, you are pro.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Pro.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Yes.

[Stephen Thompson]

Stream it with a big bag of popcorn.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Yeah. I was with my family in Oregon this past weekend. I was like, you know what movie you're gonna love that's coming up this week? And they are. They're gonna love it. They're gonna love it. My mom, my dad. They're gonna love it.

[Stephen Thompson]

All right. How about you, Roxanna?

[Roxanna Haddadi]

You know, Jordan and I are often on similar episodes because our tastes usually overlap and I adore her. But also sometimes I say this thing on an episode with Jordan where I. I say, I'm so happy you had a nice time. And that's what I will say here. I'm so happy that Jordan had a nice time.

[Jordan Crucciola]

As a student of Heat, specifically as you are, I've been really wondering what your reaction was going to be to this movie.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Yes. I'm not sure we watched the same movie because I personally felt like the suspense was not suspensing. But I think that there are elements here that I really liked. As Jordan said, said the final like 20 to 25 minutes are just like a Heat ripoff, which, you know, so many movies have done this. It's Heat. Like, I get it. I just did not feel invested in these characters in a way that made the twists and turns of the plot that interesting. But I will say that I think visually it does some things that are really spectacular. There is a shootout that is just awash in like these neon Lisa Frank colors that I think are really interesting and unexpected. It's like this movie opens with the Miami skyline and all the neon colors there. And then all of those colors show up in this gunfight, which is really interesting. And I co sign Jordan that I really adore Ben Affleck in this mode. I have to say that he has introduced wearing a track jacket, a gold chain necklace, smoking a cigarette, and wearing a double gun like shoulder holster. This man so badly wishes that he were in Eastern Promises.

[Jordan Crucciola]

So, like, there are a lot of.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Elements that feel really fun. I just don't think it coalesces into something that I had fun with.

[Stephen Thompson]

Interesting. I think I'm a little closer ultimately to team Jordan here. I think that this felt like a throwback to an era of somewhat. It's not that there are no stakes in the movie, obviously but as a viewer, the stakes feel lower. This feels like solid, kind of B grade, basic cable, Saturday afternoon. Kind of Gritty, pulpy. Two hours fly by.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Two hours, 30 minutes of commercials on TNT.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

See, I'm just shaking my head because I think it took me three hours to watch this 111 minute movie. Oh, my God.

[Stephen Thompson]

No.

[Jordan Crucciola]

I was flying. I was flying through this.

[Stephen Thompson]

I flied and I have. My attention has been known to Wayne. So I think part of it is I think Daemon and Affleck, whatever they're in together, they've been in several movies together now, including the Last Duel. I'm not sure how the Last Duel keeps getting compared to this movie.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

They're very different because it's a great movie.

[Jordan Crucciola]

The comparisons, they stop at a certain point. Please do not mistake me. But like, if you're thinking of like these actors serving off of each other, yes, you can.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Yes.

[Stephen Thompson]

That's where I'm trying to get at here is these two guys have chemistry. They've always had chemistry. They're lifelong friends. And that really, I think comes through here. Whether they are, you know, kind of working in agreement with each other or in opposition to each other, they have chemistry. And I think that is part of what kind of propels this movie forward. It has, I mean, as you said, Jordan, there is a kind of haunted house quality to this movie.

[Jordan Crucciola]

The whole detail with the street that they're on, I was like, oh, this is cool.

[Stephen Thompson]

It gives you a real sense of place and it gives you a real sense of what the stakes are. It does a fair bit of kind of underlining. As twisty as it is, it doesn't get yet hopelessly Byzantine. You can. You'll probably kind of figure out the gist of where it's going. It is not a wildly unpredictable movie. But to me, I felt like this was the sort of kind of basic cable, mid grade, two to three star, you know, just like fun Saturday afternoon, bucket of popcorn kind of movie. And I think if Netflix wants to kind of position itself as the new basic cable, which it basically is and has, you're right.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

They're the new basic.

[Jordan Crucciola]

They need to admit it. It's so true.

[Stephen Thompson]

You know that I'm here for it. And I think this film held my attention in ways I didn't necessarily expect it to.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Roxanna, were you feeling before it gets into the knot of the mystery in ways that you might have preferred different decisions? Were you feeling even at the outset, say, even first half? Were you not? The teeth were not getting in the movie for you.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I think that Daemon and Affleck together are always solid. They're doing their, like, prickly banter. They seem to be having, like two different conversations at once. I think all of that is really solid. And I think to like, Steven's point, that is what kept me invested in the first place. But I do think that talking about the, like, basic cable of it all, we recently, and by recently, I mean last month, but I have no concept of time, we were talking about the Housemaid, which also feels like a throwback genre movie that would live on television on Saturday afternoons.

[Jordan Crucciola]

The weird VH1 edit where it's like, why is this supposed to be sexy? But the sexy's gone.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Right. And we were sort of praising the, like, vintage genre shape of that. But what worked so well for me with Housemaid is that there is this, like, bonkers thing, third act twist that felt like it was taking an established formula and doing something new with it. And I think for me, the rip just felt like established formula and I did not feel like it was doing something particularly new or interesting. I will say the fact that there isn't a real third act twist. I kept waiting for it. Like, I thought there would be like a post credits scene that, you know, yanked me in a new direction, but it didn't. So I think I was just a little bit let down by, frankly, how generic it felt outside of the visuals and outside the fact that it is Affleck and Daemon. I just was sort of underwhelmed.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Yeah, I wouldn't even disagree with that. It plays through in the way that you were describing. And for me that was effective and I can see why for you it wasn't.

[Stephen Thompson]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's interesting. Like, this film was written and directed by Joe Carnahan, who has worked on movies like the Gray.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Yeah.

[Jordan Crucciola]

This is important information. This is a Joe Carnahan movie for sure. Right.

[Stephen Thompson]

He directed Narc. You know, these movies are not necessarily intended to be, like, massively artful and twisted, but I think what you get here is a kind of journeyman filmmaking that hides the level of skill involved. Because the fact that this film and Roxanna and I, our mileage really varied here. I found it to be on rails in a way that made it go faster.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Interesting.

[Jordan Crucciola]

The unstoppable train was rolling for me.

[Stephen Thompson]

Yeah. Instead of on rails where it's like, boring and predictable, it's on rails where it's kind of zipping along.

[Jordan Crucciola]

How did you Feel about the ensemble. Roxanna, how did you feel? Like they were clicking together. What do you think of our cops?

[Roxanna Haddadi]

I thought that Teyana Taylor was great. Sort of to the earlier point of like what are the different ensemble members bringing? I really liked her energy. I thought that she was adding like a levity and sort of like a no nonsense. This is just our jobs dynamic that I really enjoyed. She had my back, she looked after.

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[Roxanna Haddadi]

No, no, no, let's not her death and lets her murder. She was murdered. Let's keep it real. Let's keep it a beam. I really enjoyed Kyle Chandler. I think that he is in like a very fun spot in his career where he is just like showing up being the authoritarian guy with a little bit of like a wink, you know, like it made me think of his performance in Game Night. Uh huh. I'm DEA Burns. That makes me Miami's finest. Ask your crooked cops you socialize with. What really disappointed me is I was like, we have Scott Adkins and he's not Scott Adkins ing like he's such an action star.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Speaking of things you're waiting for, guys, I am going to pop the bubble. If you're like, oh, it's Scott Adkins. He's going to do a butterfly spinning kick through the air.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

No he's not.

[Stephen Thompson]

At no point.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

I think this goes back to something Steven was saying which is that I perhaps came in with expectations of like, oh, Scott Adkins. So we're going to get an action sequence. And then when we didn't get it, it was a disappointment for me. But maybe those were my expectations rather than being fair to the film for what it was. Steven, am I like sort of on the right track here? What do you think?

[Stephen Thompson]

Yeah, I mean, I think the context in which you take in this film is extremely important.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Yes.

[Stephen Thompson]

And like if you're coming into this film, I mean like there are gonna be people who would consider watching this film who are like, I don't wanna watch a cop movie right now.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

I agree.

[Stephen Thompson]

And like that is going to affect whether you enjoy this film or not.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

I think that was part of it. Yeah.

[Stephen Thompson]

There are gonna be people who are like, I'm sick of Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. They're probably not gonna. But if you go into it like you want a kind of, as we have said repeatedly, basic cable throwback cop movie that will entertain you for two hours. For me this fits the brief. And so I think if you go into it with your expectations Set accordingly. You're not spending night out at the movie's money.

[Jordan Crucciola]

It's included in the price you've already paid.

[Stephen Thompson]

Exactly. And, like, that does come into play. There are movies that really work on streaming that do not work in theaters and kind of vice versa. And to me, the fact that Netflix kind of acquired this film and released it the way that they did works in its favor as a viewing experience.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Oh, God. I know, But I was watching it thinking of, like, why aren't we getting 10 of these movies a year?

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Yeah. I think there are two things that I want to say about that. One, you know, sort of we talked about, like, theatrical versus streaming. Where does this movie live? Cable? Where does this movie live? I feel like what it really is for me is when you would go to, like, Wegmans and there was a red box outside, and you saw all of these action movies that you had never heard of because they were maybe independently funded or maybe acquired and then just sort of like, directly released to dvd. Again, I think if that's an experience you can miss, this is sort of what that reminded me of, like, looking at a bank of movies and being like, I've never heard of any of these, but maybe they're fun. And then the last thing that I think is interesting, we're talking about it being on Netflix. It was newsworthy that Damon and Affleck said that their production company negotiated a deal with Netflix. Right. Where if the movie is a success on Netflix, the entire production will get, like, backend bonuses, which Netflix has not done before. And Affleck said that, like, the two sides agreed on certain metrics. It's not clear what those metrics are.

[Stephen Thompson]

Wait, Netflix metrics are unclear? Okay. Wow. My mind is blown. Go ahead.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

100%. All I will say is setting aside whatever my feelings were about this movie, I really do hope that it is successful, because I think those backend bonuses were, like, very key to when Hollywood had a middle class and, like, a crew who could work on these movies.

[Stephen Thompson]

Exactly.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Thousand percent, which is exactly how Affleck has framed it. This used to be a profession where you could have a middle class life.

[Stephen Thompson]

That was exactly the phrase I was gonna end this conversation on, was bring back the cinematic middle class. I think we are missing out on a lot of great movies that way and just a lot of fun movies.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Yeah.

[Stephen Thompson]

I think we can agree as widely as our opinions on this film vary. At home on the couch with a big bucket of popcorn is probably the way to experience it. We want to know what you think about the rip. Find us on Facebook at facebook.com PCHH and on [e-mail] NPRpopculture we'll have a link in our episode description that brings us to the end of our show. Jordan Cruciola, Roxanna Haddadi, thanks so much for being here.

[Roxanna Haddadi]

Thank you.

[Jordan Crucciola]

Thank you so much for having me.

[Stephen Thompson]

This episode was produced by Liz Metzger, Kayla Latimore, Mike Katsif, and edited by our showrunner, Jessica Reedy. Hello. Come in. Provides our theme music. Thank you for listening to Pop Culture Happy Hour from npr. I'm Stephen Thompson and we will see you all next time.

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