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Ferrell is starring in his very first sitcom, the Hawk, and the show's perfectly pithy theme song gives you pretty much all the setup you need. Yes, that is the whole theme song might be the best part of the show, if I'm being honest. But look, the role of a pro golfer known as Hawk isn't really a stretch for Feral. Which is to say, if you've loved watching him play these self absorbed goofballs and stuff like Talladega Knights and Blades of Glory, maybe you'll be into this too. Plus, he's reunited with some funny collaborators from throughout his career. Molly Shannon, Luke Wilson, Chris Parnell. The frat pack vibes are very high, but they're filtered through a very of the moment lens, I'd say. I'm Aisha Harris. And joining me today on NPR's Pop Culture Happy Hour is journalist and host of the movie Review podcast, Seated Trevel Anderson. Hello, Trevel.
Trevel Anderson
Hello, Aisha. I'm excited for this one.
Aisha Harris
Ooh, me too. Also with us is Ronald Young, Jr. He's the host of the film and television Review podcast leaving the theater.
Ronald Young Jr.
Hey, Ronald, long time no see. Aisha, glad to be here with you.
Aisha Harris
Ah, yes, always. Always a pleasure. So look, a lot goes down over the course of the Hawks 10 episodes. But the gist is this. Will Ferrell's playing Lonnie Hawkins, a passes prime golfer on a relentless quest to clinch a career grand slam. But he's carrying tons of personal baggage that threatens to derail his aims, most notably a rivalry with his troubled so followed in his dad's footsteps and is also a successful pro golfer. Lance is played by Jimmy Tatro. You'll know Tatro from the first season of American Vandal or more recently, the action comedy movie Mike and Nick and Nick and Alice. The Hawk is streaming on Netflix. And Ronald, I'm gonna start with you. I have a sense of how you feel about this show, but tell me, tell everyone, tell us all, were you into the Hawk?
Ronald Young Jr.
Okay, so when the show started, I didn't like it. And they were leaning into Will Ferrell and his Will Ferrell ness and they were trying to kind of get that old thing back. As I would say, they were playing the hits early on.
Aisha Harris
You are a ball.
Liz Metzger
I am a Man, the classic redemption story. We both come from humble beginnings, yet together we will reach unimaginable heights.
Ronald Young Jr.
And then Fortune Feimster shows up. And I felt like it got a lot better when there was interplay between the two of them.
Aisha Harris
But.
Ronald Young Jr.
But inexplicably, they kind of couch Fortune Feemster in a way. She becomes kind of background or only a setup to more Will Ferrell jokes. And the show just kind of spirals into one long, fratty, nonsensical slog for the rest of the episodes. By the time I got to the final episodes, I was just like, please, just be over already. And it's an unsatisfying ending. I'm not rooting for anyone. By the time it's over, I'm not sure who I'm supposed to be rooting for. I don't know who the protagonists are rooting for. Fortune Feemster, Molly Shannon. Also, great job. But other than that, I'm not sure why we were here, except for the fact that they wanted to give Will Ferrell some money, it seems like.
Aisha Harris
So Fortune Feemster. I agree. She was the best part of the show. She is playing Sam, who eventually becomes Lonnie Hawkins, new caddy after his previous caddy and his best friend confidant, who's played by Keith David. Old Henry, he just dies on the golf course within the first 10, 15 minutes of the show. And Sam steps in and sort of his sidekick. But the sidekick who I think, like, at least like myself, doesn't know anything about golf. Doesn't care about golf.
Ronald Young Jr.
Yes.
Hafsa Bathema
Did you know chickens can memorize over 100 faces?
Aisha Harris
Where did you say you caddied before?
Hafsa Bathema
Oh, I didn't. Cause I haven't. The only time I've been on a golf course was doing donuts in high school.
Aisha Harris
And, yes, Molly Shannon is playing Stacy, Lonnie's estranged wife, which I guess gives a lot of comedic. Is it comedy? I don't know. But, Trevel, I need to hear from you before I say anymore.
Trevel Anderson
Yeah, I'm right there with Ronald. I did not enjoy this from the beginning, if I'm being honest. Fortune is the best part. And I think in so many ways, the Hawk was trying to give us that ooh, ah, ah sensation of yesteryear. It just didn't work. I was looking for something more, something different. It felt like one of those movies that you'll just, you know, it'll be number one on Netflix because we'll put it on and then we'll go wash dishes or something. You know what I mean? That's the vibe and the energy it gave.
Aisha Harris
Yes, yes. I think I'm a little bit softer on this than both of you. Look, I'm not gonna sit here and say that I'm gonna return to this anytime soon or ever.
Ronald Young Jr.
I came ready to fight Aisha, so be careful where you go with this.
Aisha Harris
Look, I agree that it kind of throws a lot of darts at the wall or throws a lot of putts. I don't know. Golf. It does things. It tries to do a lot of things. And it goes from being sort of this quest for the career Grand Slam. But then also, you know, Lance, his son, Will Ferrell's character. Son. Has a gambling addiction, amongst many other issues. I think you can't have a sports show that's set in the present day now without having that aspect of it. I, at least admire the fact that they try to incorporate something that feels true to the way sports are consumed and the way sports are played. I don't know if the comedic side of that works. I think it takes kind of a lighthearted approach. It tries to balance the darkness of what's going on with Lance's character with the world of Will Ferrell, which I don't think those worlds mesh very well. There's also so many product placement.
Trevel Anderson
They're everywhere.
Aisha Harris
I think that's. There's a sensibility here that feels like it is trying to call back to the Talladega Nights and whatnot. Especially when you think about nascar, when you think about, well, any sports, it's all about corporate interests. So you get all these references to Middle American franchises like Chili's and Red Lobster.
Trevel Anderson
Carrabbas.
Aisha Harris
Yes.
Ronald Young Jr.
Outback, Buffalo Wild Wings, Outback, Popeyes, Mike's Hard Lemonade.
Trevel Anderson
All of them.
Liz Metzger
Yes.
Aisha Harris
I mean, they're not just in the background. It's like they're incorporated into the scri.
Liz Metzger
The side. The most perfect baked potato. I mean, just swimming in sour cream and chives.
Ronald Young Jr.
Oh, you making me hungry.
Liz Metzger
And here's the crazy thing. It's just a random outback somewhere outside of Dallas.
Mike Katsip
You know, I sure could use some of them blooming onions they got.
Aisha Harris
There's a very kind of 2000s sensibility. That sort of frat pack feel that, like, I'm not sure, entirely gels with where we are at now. But, like, overall, the nostalgia, though, like, I feel like there were moments that I enjoy. Like, I like all of these performers, but there's not much to hang your hat on here. Right.
Ronald Young Jr.
So I think the biggest problem and I think this would have fixed this immediately. Just make it a movie. Make it a movie. We could have been in and out that they dragged this out. There are scenes that have no business being as long as they are. There's a whole funeral that happens in the show. The Hawk, Will Ferrell, is unable to make it to the funeral. And there's a part I was thinking where if this were a movie, this probably would have been a two to three minute sequence where he shows up late, essentially. Right. The fact that that took 22 minutes for them to get to the point, which wasn't much of a point by the time that they got there. So I didn't understand. And there's multiple sequences like that in the show where I immediately thought, if this had been a movie, it would have sped along and it would have worked. But I think the fact that they stretched it out into a television show is what, to me is mostly what kills what we like about Will Ferrell, especially in this environment.
Trevel Anderson
If it was 90 minutes, you're absolutely right, we'd be having perhaps a different kind of conversation. But because they feel the need to fill, you know, 10 episodes with stuff, we end up getting, you know, back and forth about boner jokes, for example, you know, extended. But you like those. Aisha, I think you're laughing.
Aisha Harris
Well, no, no, no, no. Those are my least favorite parts.
Trevel Anderson
Okay, good.
Aisha Harris
But, yes, there are boater jokes. There are also, you know, long extended sequence of the Thong Song. I love that song as much as the next person. I think it's a classic. I will never turn that off if it comes on. But do I need Will Ferrell, like, mouthing the words to the Thong Song on a golf course would keep David in the back, Like.
Trevel Anderson
No,
Aisha Harris
but that. But that would be like the post credit sequence. Yes, I think that that is the problem. Right. It's like you are trying to both tap into that nostalgia of what Will Ferrell has meant to, like, multiple generations of people, and also what like someone like Molly Shannon has meant to multiple generations of people. But then, like, Will Ferrell's character is just kind of baffling in not just his quest for what he wants to do, but also in just, like, being. I feel like it's calcified. Right. Like the anchorman, the Ron Burgundy. That felt like very pointed satire, where here I think we're supposed to actually kind of like this dude, even though he is awful, like, he's an awful parent, he's not at all attentive to anyone else's desires.
Trevel Anderson
Or needs.
Aisha Harris
He literally like steals a piece of property off of his dead catty. Like that was the other thing that like if you're gonna have keep David. Yes.
Ronald Young Jr.
Problematic. Wow.
Aisha Harris
Play a character, Dane$old Henry who is a caddy.
Ronald Young Jr.
Yeah. What was that? Yes, yes.
Aisha Harris
And at one point there is a Legend of Bagger Vance reference but like not related to his character.
Hafsa Bathema
I haven't seen a black person play golf in like three days.
Aisha Harris
Well, they play, they play all the time.
Hafsa Bathema
Okay. Tiger Woods. Uh huh. That's who you got.
Liz Metzger
Yeah.
Hafsa Bathema
It's very obvious.
Aisha Harris
Bagger Vance fictional. And so I was just like, we're just going to kind of dance around this whole weird racial dynamic between that character and this character and then you kill him off. Like it made me so angry. Like, why do you cast Keith David and kill him off? And I feel the same way about Molly Shannon where I'm like, I hate to use the word unlikable, but I don't understand who this character is and why we're supposed to care about her. She's very focused on her new alcoholic drink called Teed off, which is a golf play. Ha ha ha. But yeah, I don't know, there's just something, something just like very kind of eh, about it. But at the same time, again, I kind of liked it. I don't know. Well, we've got a lot more to talk about and we'll be right back after this break.
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Ronald Young Jr.
I just, I gotta point out, we were talking characters. The Natalie character, I was utterly baffled by that character.
Aisha Harris
Caitlyn Tarver.
Ronald Young Jr.
Yes. She shows up early. I don't know if she's good or bad. And then she's gone. And I don't understand what her impact was supposed to be. If we just go technically and just say the pacing was weird and that the character development was all muddied and to say that it doesn't rise to a level that's funny enough to outpace the those basic issues, to say, like, hey, is Lance good or bad? Is Lonnie good or bad? And my thing is, even if they're not, even if they're somewhere in the middle, you're not even doing a good nuanced job of dictating that to us based on their interactions with each other because it seems like they're all bad enough that they should all get along a lot better without kind of this weird family tension between the three of them. Specifically between Molly Shannon, Will Ferrell and Jimmy Tatrow as Lance, Stacy and Lonnie.
Aisha Harris
So, yeah, yeah. And Natalie is playing at the beginning, Lance's fiance. Right. And so there's also a weird dynamic between her character and then the Molly Shannon character. Basically, Molly Shannon is playing a boy mom, and it's kind of weird and gross. And Natalie, his fiance, points it out rightfully.
So your mom runs up and kisses you after every round you play.
Only if I win.
Well, maybe when you win today, you could kiss me instead of your mom.
That's the thing, right? Like, we have so many characters and so much plot. It gets to the point where, like all of these movies of that previous era and shows like this, they always have to amp up the escalation. But the way it ends is just clearly they think maybe there might be a second season, but I'm not sure.
Trevel Anderson
Oh, please, no.
Aisha Harris
I don't know where that would go.
Ronald Young Jr.
Don't do it again.
Trevel Anderson
Please, please. No. But yes, you're right. They kind of end the show in that way.
Ronald Young Jr.
Just make it a movie. Make it a second season movie.
Aisha Harris
Yes, yes, yes, yes. There's not that much to the show. I think that's the problem. Right. The jokes aren't necessarily landing. That would be fine if maybe there was something, some dramatic tension here, but there isn't. Like this show just kind of exists, right?
Mike Katsip
Yeah.
Trevel Anderson
I mean, I feel like it wants to be like unoffensive in its simplicity, but it also has this like raunchy, edgy air about it that I think is supposed to, you know, it's supposed to remind us of this style of a production that many of us are familiar with from the early 2000s in particular. But for me, I just did not feel like there was any evolution. Yes, it feels like a movie that would have came out shortly after Blades of Glory. Right. In terms of its, in terms of what it's asking its characters to do. I will also say for myself, one of the co writers of this is Harper Steele, Will Ferrell's longtime collaborator. They did a documentary on Netflix about Harper Steele coming out as a trans woman called Will and Harper and developing their relationship and going cross country. And so I was hoping for a little something fresh, a little something different this go around with this project and it's not there, unfortunately.
Aisha Harris
Well, look, sounds like we were not all fans of the Hawk, but we can't like everything. And also, you probably clicked on it and maybe you felt the same or maybe you felt very differently. That's okay. That brings us to the end of our show. Treyville Anderson, Ronald Young, Jr. Thanks so much for being here. And you know, they can't all fly. It's okay.
Trevel Anderson
It is okay. Thank you. I usually.
Ronald Young Jr.
Thanks for having me.
Aisha Harris
This episode was produced by Liz Metzger, Hafsa Bathema and Mike Katsip and edited by our showrunner, Jessica Reedy.
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Date: July 20, 2026
Host: Aisha Harris
Guests: Tre’vell Anderson (Seated podcast), Ronald Young Jr. (Leaving the Theater podcast)
This episode of Pop Culture Happy Hour dives into Netflix’s new sitcom "The Hawk," starring Will Ferrell as Lonnie Hawkins, a washed-up golfer on a chaotic quest for a career grand slam. The hosts and guests break down the series, examining its throwback sensibility, humor, character dynamics, and Will Ferrell’s return to his signature "frat pack" style. While the show brings together a strong comedic cast, including Molly Shannon, Luke Wilson, Chris Parnell, Fortune Feimster, and Keith David, the hosts grapple with whether the nostalgia lands and if the premise holds up to today’s comedic standards.
"She was the best part of the show...the sidekick who, like myself, doesn’t know anything about golf. Doesn’t care about golf." —Aisha Harris [03:34]
"They kind of couch Fortune Feimster in a way. She becomes kind of background or only a setup to more Will Ferrell jokes." —Ronald Young Jr. [02:44]
"There’s a sensibility here that feels like it is trying to call back to the Talladega Nights...That sort of frat pack feel that, like, I’m not sure entirely gels with where we are at now." —Aisha Harris [06:17]
"It felt like one of those movies that’ll just… be number one on Netflix because we’ll put it on then go wash dishes or something." [04:27]
"Just make it a movie. Make it a movie. We could have been in and out...The fact that they stretched it out into a television show is what, to me, is mostly what kills what we like about Will Ferrell." —Ronald Young Jr. [07:22]
"Do I need Will Ferrell, like, mouthing the words to the Thong Song on a golf course with Keith David in the back, like...?” —Aisha Harris [08:44]
"I don’t know if she’s good or bad. And then she’s gone. And I don’t understand what her impact was supposed to be." —Ronald Young Jr. [12:55]
“By the time I got to the final episodes, I was just like, please, just be over already. And it’s an unsatisfying ending. I’m not rooting for anyone.” —Ronald Young Jr. [02:51]
“I feel like it wants to be like unoffensive in its simplicity, but it also has this raunchy, edgy air about it...” —Tre’vell Anderson [15:04]
“I was hoping for a little something fresh, a little something different this go around with this project, and it's not there, unfortunately.” —Tre’vell Anderson [15:25]
On Fortune Feimster’s Character:
On Outdated Humor:
On Family Dynamics:
On the Show’s Impact:
The panel agrees "The Hawk" is heavy on nostalgia and big names, but light on fresh comedy, meaningful character arcs, or evolved storytelling. Fortune Feimster stands out amid a muddled ensemble, but the show’s extended format and dated humor ultimately drag it down. As Tre’vell notes, sometimes “they can’t all fly” — and all agree, this bird might’ve been better left as a quick summer movie.