Jared and Mike dive into the growing world of contrarian punditry that seeks to downplay Jeffrey Epstein’s child sex abuse and discourage audiences from drawing conclusions about his connections to some of the world’s wealthiest and most powerful people. They take a closer look at one online personality, Michael Tracey, to unpack this surreal and alarming trend.

Later, they’re joined by Ileana Justine, a journalist and content creator whose analysis of how Epstein and his powerful friends shaped the world millennial women were raised in recently went viral on Instagram and TikTok. They discuss the importance of confronting the impact of the Epstein Files on women, the harm encouraged by contrarian punditry that dismisses it, and which children’s movies have the best soundtracks.

Links for Ileana:

Instagram (@ileana.justine)
TikTok (@ileana.justine)

Links for us:

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