Pour Minds: Cause And Effect ft. Deante’ Kyle

Summary

Pour Minds Podcast: "Cause And Effect" ft. Deante’ Kyle

Date: March 21, 2026
Hosts: Drea Nicole & Lex P
Guest: Deonte’ Kyle
Network: The Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, hosts Lex P and Draya Nicole are joined by Deontay Kyle, a rapidly rising podcasting voice known for his unfiltered takes and authenticity. Together, they dive deep into Black family dynamics, the impact of adoption and secrecy in Black households, social media backlash, colorism, Black relationships, ageism, and even the cultural layers of porn. With humor, honesty, and a sense of kinship, the trio explores personal growth, the complexities of Black identity, and how to hold your ground in the digital era.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Deontay Kyle’s Rise & Staying Authentic

Timestamps: [04:12] – [10:59]

• Recognition for Growth:
  Lex and Draya give Deontay his flowers for building a successful podcast platform, highlighting his rapid rise since starting in 2023.

  “I have never seen somebody cover this much ground and grow that quickly without being a celebrity.” – Lex P [05:44]

• Transition from Truck Driving:
  Deontay left truck driving in April 2025, which allowed him to fully invest in his media career and led to his breakout year.

  “I ain't even a year in when I started driving trucks and I could do this shit full time. That when this shit really went up.” – Deontay Kyle [07:54]

• On Privacy and Social Media:
  He keeps his family life private, especially to shield loved ones from public scrutiny and narrative spinning.

  “I don't want us to go through that with the world, bro. That's crazy. That how n***a end up broke up.” – Deontay Kyle [09:30]

• Learning Not to “Impulse Post”:
  Deontay shares that growing his TikTok following and brand taught him to avoid impulsive online reactions.

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2. Adoption, Family Secrets, and Identity

Timestamps: [20:00] – [43:44]

• Adopted by a Black Family, Biological White Mother:
  Deontay discusses how his pro-Black stance is sometimes attacked via his biracial identity, which he only became aware of in adulthood, after his mother’s passing.

  “If I tell you I was giving away at birth, right? And my mama been my mama since I was two days old. S***, I don't know what we talking about.” – Deontay Kyle [20:00]

• The Harm of Secrecy in Black Families:
  Draya (who is also adopted) and Deontay agree that Black families need to move away from secrecy, as it can cause long-term identity issues and trust barriers.

  “As a Black community in general, we gotta stop all that secretive shit...you don’t get to control or dictate the truth about somebody else's business.” – Deontay Kyle [40:20]

• Emotional Complexity of Adoption:
  Both speak on their intuition as children, the emotional impact of late discoveries, and the journey toward self-acceptance.

  “The most liberating part was like, damn, I knew I was right. I could overly trust myself now.” – Deontay Kyle [34:38] “Adopted is a very complex thing that...most people don't really understand unless they've been through it.” – Draya Nicole [31:46]

• Generational Guilt and Protection:
  The group explores how a parent’s pain around fertility and trauma can compound the secrecy.

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3. Handling Social Media Backlash & Keeping Boundaries

Timestamps: [14:10] – [19:40]

• Public Scrutiny:
  Deontay describes shifting from total engagement online to intentional disengagement for self-protection.

  “At first it was like I was always engaged in the comments...but I really had to, like, go through, like, a whole morning of that shit too.” – Deontay Kyle [15:10]

• Authenticity vs. Pandering:
  The conversation revolves around people being “committed to misunderstanding you” and never retracting authentic statements.

• The Disadvantage of Clout Chasing:
  Lex points out those who only talk about others will never be truly influential online.

  “If your content is just talking shit about other people...as soon as you talk about yourself, they're gonna disengage.” – Lex P [16:41]

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4. Colorism & Black Identity

Timestamps: [43:44] – [51:34]

• Why Are (Some) Light Skinned People So Pro-Black?
  Lex probes if light-skinned people try to “prove” their blackness, but Deontay roots his activism in upbringing and community, not insecurity.

  “These my folks...It ain’t never really been, man. Bruh, you know, I went through—it’s dark skinned people that get roasted the same way I got roasted for being light skinned.” – Deontay Kyle [44:06]

• Colorism’s Spectrum:
  Deontay and Draya unpack how both ends of the spectrum experience bias; it’s less about shade and more about one’s actual values and choices.

• The Uselessness of the “Purity” Argument:

  “Ain’t no monoracial black people. This is why I mentioned Thomas Jefferson’s children earlier.” – Deontay Kyle [49:34]

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5. Black Relationships, Marriage, and Societal Pressures

Timestamps: [54:10] – [59:10]

• Marriage Rates and Black Women’s “Reputation”:
  Lex brings up how criticism of Black women often centers around their relationships with Black men, blaming them for low marriage rates.

  “Every time they diss a black woman...it has something to do with black men not marrying us.” – Lex P [54:23]

• Root Causes:
  Deontay situates this dynamic within white colonial standards of marriage and the devastation wrought by the crack era and targeted mass incarceration.

  “I keep...repeating, but I'm telling you, that war on drugs destroyed literally every facet of our community.” – Deontay Kyle [55:52]

• Building Solutions & Breaking the Cycle:
  He advocates for focusing on causes, not just the effects, and for breaking cycles of absentee parenting.

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6. Ageism, Preferences, & Pedestalizing Youth

Timestamps: [60:05] – [69:03]

• Why Older Black Men Date Younger Women:
  The hosts and Deontay critique the normalization of predatory dating patterns and infantilization of Black men in pop culture.

  “You want somebody young and dumb because...Don’t question me, don’t challenge me, don’t hold me accountable.” – Deontay Kyle [61:00]

• Rejecting Ageism—Embracing Growth:
  The group asserts the value of aging and maturity, rejecting the notion that 30s/40s equals “old.”

  “We need to find the beauty and blessing in aging. Everybody don’t get to do this.” – Deontay Kyle [69:03]

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7. Gossip, “Mess,” and Human Nature

Timestamps: [69:39] – [74:22]

• The Myth of “No Mess”:
  Despite social media’s shaming, the hosts admit everyone gossips sometimes.

  “Part of being social is talking about society...I'm talking about people!” – Deontay Kyle [70:43]

• TikTok Drama & “Women’s Business”:
  Lex calls out Deontay for getting messy in online drama, sparking a discussion on the boundaries between friendship, loyalty, and airing things out.

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8. Sex, Porn, & Race

Timestamps: [78:33] – [91:38]

• Segregation in Pornography:
  The hosts lampoon the ways Black and white porn remain racially coded (“Ebony” vs. “Black,” “ghetto,” exaggerated interracial scenarios).

  “That should be like pure white angel gets destroyed by big black...” – Deontay Kyle [79:05]

• Tastes & Stereotypes:
  They discuss authenticity in sexual expression, the allure of “real” amateur content, and reflect on how even porn mirrors structural racial divides.

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9. Music & Generational Shifts

Timestamps: [92:10] – [97:55]

• New vs. Old School:
  The trio celebrates recent releases from rap legends (Juvenile, TI, J. Cole) and critiques the tendency for younger fans to disrespect hip-hop elders.

  “Stop playing with our legends...they gotta show you young ns how to get on a track.” – Lex P [92:21] “Old ns out rapping all you n****s…” – Deontay Kyle [93:17]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Authenticity & Criticism:

  “A lot of things that people project onto me, it's like, damn, I ain't never thought about that shit.” – Deontay Kyle [51:34]

• On Colorism, Privilege, and Finesse:

  “But at the end of the day, soon as I say something you don't like, you gonna treat me like a n***a like them.” – Deontay Kyle [45:22]

• On Classical Black Resilience:

  “We was thriving...under the threat of Jim Crow and constant violence from white people. Thriving under the threat of being thrown in prison or be hung for having too much.” – Deontay Kyle [56:16]

• On Dating Preferences:

  “I don’t even wanna talk to a woman that don’t got a three in her age. I’m 35, bro.” – Deontay Kyle [62:24]

• On Black Community Secrecy:

  "Children are autonomous beings too...because you shaping their life in one way or the other, whether you shape it with a truth or a lie." – Deontay Kyle [41:26]

• On Gossip:

  “Niggas rich off gossip, duality.” – Lex P [69:56]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Introduction, Deontay’s Flower-Giving: [04:12] – [06:37]
• Early Hustle & TikTok to Podcast Growth: [06:45] – [09:01]
• Adoption, Family, Identity Discussion: [20:00] – [43:44]
• Dealing with Online Hate: [14:10] – [19:40]
• Colorism & Blackness: [43:44] – [51:34]
• Black Marriage/Social Structures: [54:10] – [59:10]
• Age, Dating, and Predatory Norms: [60:05] – [69:03]
• Mess/Drama/Platonic Friendships: [69:39] – [74:22]
• Black vs. White Porn Commentary: [78:33] – [91:38]
• Music (“Bop of the Week”) Segment: [92:10] – [97:55]
• Listener Advice (“Pour Your Heart Out”): [98:42] – [102:27]
• Outro, Plugs, Announcements: [102:27] – End

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Flow, Energy, Tone

The episode is quintessential “Pour Minds”: raw, playful, honest, and intellectual, with a rhythm that flows between jokes and tough truths. Deontay Kyle complements the hosts, offering vulnerability (about family, growth, challenges), cultural critique, and just enough “mess” to keep things entertaining.

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For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is a masterclass in Black transparency, blending comedy, critique, confessions, and cultural commentary. If you’re interested in modern Black media, generational healing, navigating identity, and hilarious real talk—strap in. It’s like an unfiltered dinner table debate, but with more cocktails, sex chat, and respect for every awkward truth.

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For More:

• Deontay Kyle: @deontaykyle | Grizzly Ned’s Podcast on YouTube | Tour: Raleigh, Birmingham, Jacksonville, Charlotte, Nashville (deontaykyle.com)
• Pour Minds: Every week wherever you stream podcasts

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Transcript

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Draya Nicole]

the closer you'll be.

[Deontay Kyle]

So we asked kids, what do you

[Draya Nicole]

want your parents to hear? I feel sometimes that I'm not listened to.

[Lex P]

I would just want you to listen to me more often and evaluate situations

[Deontay Kyle]

with me and lead me towards success.

[Draya Nicole]

Listening is a form of love.

[Cheryl Strayed]

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[Cheryl Strayed]

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[Lex P]

wish you could eavesdrop on and plenty

[Cino Show Host]

of did they just say that?

[Lex P]

That moments.

[Cino Show Host]

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[Cheryl Strayed]

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[Lex P]

Somebody had made a thing like, oh, Future can't rap no more. Stop it, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's stop the narrative.

[Draya Nicole]

Stop.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't. I ain't going to lie, man. I'm starting to get ages, bro.

[Draya Nicole]

Why?

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't want to hear the opinions of people younger than 25 no more.

[Lex P]

That's fair. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, Future br. Shut up, bro.

[Lex P]

The people was mad. Brandy doing the. The runs. That national anthem was beautiful. It was Brandy, like, let's stop it.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a lot of revisionist history that be happening with that. We got to stop doing.

[Lex P]

We got to stop doing. Y' all stop acting like Whitney Houston herself didn't say Brandi was the most talented.

[Deontay Kyle]

Niggas be acting like. Like, stop acting like Christina Aguilera can sing. Y' all don't Do.

[Draya Nicole]

I wanna shoot, baby.

[Lex P]

No.

[Draya Nicole]

That's what it sound like.

[Lex P]

He was about to. Cheetos, man. I'm sorry, m. What's up, y'? All? It's your girl Lex P. And it's

[Draya Nicole]

your girl Draya Nicole.

[Lex P]

And you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Mind, where a drunk

[Draya Nicole]

mind speaks sober thoughts.

[Lex P]

We got a guest today.

[Draya Nicole]

We got a guest today.

[Lex P]

Okay. When y' all were first introduced to him, now, mind you, let me say this. Y' all did ask for this guest. Cause y' all say I be lying. But y' all was asking for him in the comments.

[Draya Nicole]

They have been asking for it.

[Lex P]

Y' all been asking for it. And we delivered y' all first. Introducing him on TikTok. Now he has a banging podcast. Y' all seen him on Breakfast Club. He been everywhere. If you get on social media, y' all have seen his clips going viral. He's known for keeping it real. Keeping it 100. Y' all give it up for Deontay. Kyle. What's up?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Just being in Collector.

[Draya Nicole]

Oh, okay. You are messy crazy.

[Lex P]

Well, this is how you starting the show today.

[Deontay Kyle]

He is, you know what I'm saying?

[Draya Nicole]

Topping it off early.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm trying. I love y'. All.

[Lex P]

I'm so glad that you're finally. Cause we've been trying to get you for a while. Yeah, schedules have been.

[Draya Nicole]

And we run into you everywhere.

[Deontay Kyle]

We stay running into our bed. It's the schedule.

[Lex P]

It is the schedule. It really is.

[Deontay Kyle]

It be me, too.

[Lex P]

Don't act like you're not busy.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause you'll be busy, busy too. And Shay be having our schedule booked out.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a blessing. For real.

[Lex P]

Yes. So I want to kind of. First of all, I really want to give you your flowers. Like, we gonna get the serious stuff out the way. Because I told this to Drea. We were talking on the phone one day. Cause we gossip and talk about everybody. So you was on the docket that day. And I know it didn't. I hate when people say, oh, he just came out of nowhere. But the fact that you started your podcast in what, 2023?

[Deontay Kyle]

2024.

[Lex P]

2024.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. No, you right. 2023. It was audio.

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was audio only.

[Lex P]

I am not gonna lie. We have been doing this for a while. I'm not gonna lie. I have never seen somebody cover this much ground and grow that quickly without being a celebrity. I've never seen it. I have never seen it. So the fact that you have a platform and that you've grown on and you always stand 10 toes down in your opinions and your things, and you've grown organically. I have to give you your flowers for that. Because especially now you. Everybody has a podcast, right? Take the mics.

[Deontay Kyle]

Take the mics.

[Lex P]

So the fact that you are doing it in a time where it's a really competitive space and you have stuck out, I gotta give you your one, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I appreciate it. Thank you.

[Lex P]

You've been doing your thing.

[Draya Nicole]

That's probably my favorite thing about you. I love that you just. You say what you mean and you mean what you say. It's never no retracting of statements. I said what I said, and you can either take it or leave it. I love people like that.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, ain't nothing to take back. That's what I meant.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I meant it the first time I learned how not to impulse post.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? So, like, really a big part of how I was able to grow so fast was I had built like a personal brand on TikTok, so I already had like 100,000 followers before I started the podcast. And then it was like, if I can get at least 10%, if I can get a thousand folks to listen to this, this shit'll pop. It'll go. Cuz I already know if I post on TikTok, that shit gonna go up. Yeah. But I ain't had no Instagram at the time when I first started either.

[Lex P]

Really?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I. I had no Instagram till the end of 2024.

[Lex P]

That is so crazy to me. That is.

[Draya Nicole]

That's crazy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I ain't like Instagram. I was, like, very anti. Cause I was like, I ain't no taking no picture ass nigga. So.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. And that's what it used to be.

[Lex P]

Every time I see you on a red carpet taking pictures, I be with y'.

[Deontay Kyle]

All. I be with y'.

[Lex P]

All.

[Draya Nicole]

You do. He be in the face. I'm not gonna lie.

[Lex P]

He is. You be everywhere. Like, that's why I say. I know. It's like, work, and everybody puts in work, and people don't see the things behind closed doors. And this is somebody that we still get that people be like, where did y' all come from? And it's like, we've been putting in the work. But I ain't gonna lie. You really did just kind of, like, pop up.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I mean?

[Lex P]

Cause you used to drive trucks, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I stopped driving trucks in April.

[Lex P]

Wow.

[Draya Nicole]

So you just stopped?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I just stopped.

[Draya Nicole]

Congratulations.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I ain't even a year in when I started driving trucks and I could do this shit full time. That when this shit really went up.

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

That when y' all started seeing me everywhere. Everywhere. It was one song, like, summer 2025. I was turned the fuck up.

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause I.

[Lex P]

Go ahead.

[Draya Nicole]

So what made you decide? Okay. Cause I feel like that's just two different career paths. So what made you be like, okay, I'm gonna start a podcast from driving trucks.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was actually okay with driving trucks. It was stable. It was the first time in my life I was really stable. For real. I was always just trying to figure something out, whether it be hustling T shirts or hustling whatever, you know what I mean? But I always just kept a job. But it was like, a job, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm driving fort lifts, I'm doing something, then I gotta do shit on the side, and I got kids. So it was like, I need a career. I need something that's stable. And that's when I got turned on to the trades and stuff. So y' all went to go stay with my granny for, like, five years. For real? Like, granny was like, come over here, start your career, but bring the kids and everything.

[Lex P]

How many kids you got?

[Deontay Kyle]

I got three kids.

[Lex P]

I did not know that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, for sure.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I didn't know that. I keep my private life private.

[Lex P]

How many baby mamas?

[Deontay Kyle]

None. I got one wife.

[Lex P]

No, that's. You better correct me, Keith. Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all met her at the roof of

[Lex P]

the audience.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah. Yeah, man. That's ain't look, I think for me, I've been a consumer of social media long enough to know, like, what's for them and what's not. Cause them folks will take your life and spend that shit into whatever they want it to be. So I'm cool on that. You know what I'm saying? Cause shit, if me and her go through something, I want me and her to go through that alone.

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't want us to go through that with the world, bro. That's crazy. That how nigga end up broke up.

[Lex P]

I'm telling you, I feel like it's

[Draya Nicole]

cool to have a certain level of transparency with being a public figure. But the things that you care the most about, you need to keep that.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta keep that private to protect. And you know why niggas hide their drug habits? Why you ain't hiding your children.

[Draya Nicole]

Exactly.

[Lex P]

But I think it's so crazy how people be like, why are y' all hiding stuff, y'?

[Deontay Kyle]

All.

[Lex P]

If I was in a relationship, I

[Deontay Kyle]

would put it on, man, this folk be lying, bro.

[Lex P]

But also no shade. But if you have 500 followers, you can post your significant other. Yeah, I know it's a little different when you are literally. When somebody is literally watching your every move. Thousands and thousands, sometimes millions of people are watching what you do that.

[Deontay Kyle]

And you know, the way I speak, I'm always stepping on somebody told. So, you know, like, I've been very open about my adoption and stuff like that. I said something. Niggas ain't like that. Go find your daddy, nigga. Go find your mama. Like, they get disrespectful. It's like, I can't do nothing to these nigga. So I think for me, it's like, you know, I also been open. Like we had a separation, you know, that we was going through, you know, still going through, but working through it type shit. So it's like, man, I put that on the Internet and n find her and all that, then what is it gonna be? They gonna spin that narrative too. And it's like, for me, that's my life. She don't even wanna be perceived like that. You know what I'm saying? She good. You know what I'm saying? So why we. I think n do that to validate something else within themselves. I don't need no validation like that.

[Lex P]

How has yalls relationship changed since you

[Deontay Kyle]

have Nigga, this shit crazy. It's a 180 for real. Cause like, driving trucks, shit, you be gone a lot. So our communication game was crazy. Cause it's like, that shit. That's all you got. I called like 36, 48 hours and I'm back out of there. But that also was the thing with. I was like, I need to get up out of there. That's when you to your point about what made you start. It's like, if I'm buzzing like this on the Internet, I could parlay this into something. And a lot of people wanted to hear me speak in longer form. So it's like, shit. Everybody do these podcasts, but like, ain't nobody talking about shit for real. And a lot of them folks get centered and people tune in for me. So it's like, shit. It's this comedian I watch named Tim Dillon. He do his shit Dolo. And like, he got his people on the side that like, he got like a. I guess like a peanut gallery, so to speak. People that he converse with. But it's really centered around him. So I was like, shit, I could do that. And that shit just took off. Cause I was like, I don't feel like being. I'm cool with being a charge off. I don't know if I want to do this shit. No. 20 years. Yeah, right?

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? My granddaddy did that shit for like 30 years. So I already gave you back problems, you hear me?

[Lex P]

Well, shit, it give you back problems. And the side of their face, it messes up the side of your face from the sun coming in. Really.

[Deontay Kyle]

Also a thing that people don't talk about is how isolating it is. So you pick up traits of being institutionalized.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause you by yourself.

[Deontay Kyle]

So you by yourself a lot. So you eat by yourself. You spend a lot of time alone. You get to a point where you start like, you don't wanna talk on the phone as much. I had got to there like year three, I ain't wanna talk on the phone. When I get home. It's like I gotta remind myself like I'm here to. I gotta be present and be father. Cause like, I'm so squirreled away in my room doing what I would not. This is my routine being by myself. And so, yeah, it took a little while for me to even be back comfortable being around folks all the time.

[Lex P]

Do you have any lot lizard stories?

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, hell no.

[Draya Nicole]

Any what?

[Lex P]

Lot lizards. What is that? It's the girls that run around.

[Deontay Kyle]

So like, you know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

I mean, TikTok too deep, bitch.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause I'm like, what is a lot lizard?

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a real thing. So like old school truckers is like, you know, these big old truck parking lots and stuff. It be prostitutes. They go door to door, knock on your door, see if you want some company and shit like that.

[Draya Nicole]

Not they said, ladies, the money here.

[Lex P]

Hey, hey, hey. Them n pushed up with the chick.

[Draya Nicole]

You heard me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, the thing for me is, like, I ain't never really had no women problems. So I ain't never been that damn bad if I can't wait for it, you know what I'm saying? I'mma wait for it, you know what I'm saying? I'm straight. If not, we finna get that hub popping. Not the hub, just the hub popping.

[Draya Nicole]

So I wanted to ask you, like, how do you deal with the backlash? All of the backlash and stuff online, people in their commentary, especially coming from a place of at one point not really being active on social media, to now having obviously, like a booming podcast, booming social media pages. How do you deal with all of the commentary?

[Deontay Kyle]

It's something to adjust to. I literally had no social media three years ago to, like, having, like, to being the social media nigga.

[Draya Nicole]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

So I think I was talking to a rapper yesterday, very well known, I'm gonna say.

[Lex P]

I was gonna say he can't rap. For real. Why you did it? Never mind. I was about to.

[Deontay Kyle]

He's an artist, you know what I mean? Okay. I don't wanna put that boy out there. But yeah, we was having a conversation. Cause he was kinda telling me about how he deal with, like, a lot of paranoia, dealing with the public, trying to be normal, you know what I'm saying? And my therapist had told me, like, don't let default deify you. Like, stay human as much as you can. So at first it was like I was always engaged in the comments. Or, you know, if I feel like somebody was, like, taking my words out of context or misrepresenting my message, I go back and forth with them. But I really had to, like, go through, like, a whole morning of that shit too. Like, you gotta, like, I gotta let this shit go. Like, I gotta really completely disengage and disconnect from this. Cause it's to the point where it's like, it's only one of me. It's so many of y' all where to the point. Y' all don't even give a fuck about what my response is. Y' all just here to push our narrative. Y' all trying to get the most likes in the comment section.

[Draya Nicole]

Yep.

[Deontay Kyle]

Or like, man, you know how many nigga piggybacking off my shit, like, trying to get a name for themselves by mentioning my name.

[Lex P]

Mm.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, bro, not even that. Just. I know a Nigga right now, 50 videos deep, running out his mouth about me.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, I hate it.

[Lex P]

Cause they be in the back talking, but they head be in the middle just floating around this nigga. I hate it.

[Deontay Kyle]

I hate these videos.

[Lex P]

I hate them.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm on six right here. This me. Stop doing this, bro. Say something, bro. Or just repost my shit and get up out of there. Yeah, like, get your face out my shit, bro. You know? But. Nah, keep doing that. Cause that shit is good marketing. Yeah, I mean, but I think. No, but I'm just talking about people that are like, every take you make, they got the contra. They contrarian. Yeah, I'mma take the opposite stance. Y' all don't even got no reason to have the opposite stance. They just like, yeah, fuck that, nigga.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, for sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

Essentially, that's what it is.

[Lex P]

I always tell people there is no way, because I see this a lot. If your entire social media is talking about other people and what they have going on and their topic points and things like that, you're never gonna be, like, an influencer, a successful person online or whatever you wanna call it that we do. You're not gonna make it.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta be mindful of, like, what your content is real.

[Lex P]

Cause if your content is just talking shit about other people and what they have going on, as soon as you talk about yourself, they're gonna disengage. Cause they don't care about you. Y' all are all bonding on. I hate this nigga.

[Draya Nicole]

I mean, yeah, that's weird. And I think a lot of people, they just be committed to misunderstanding you or they want to be offended by the message because it's you saying it. If somebody else was saying the same shit, they would just let it ride. But because it's you saying it, oh, I gotta argue. I gotta go back and forth. I gotta have a rebuttal.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think it's a thing too. It's like, they see everybody that love you and praise you and, like, show you. They, like, fuck that.

[Lex P]

Do you know the most.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm going the other way.

[Lex P]

The most hated people in the world are not people who are like, oh, that stand for something. The most hated people in the world are people that are really loved. When somebody is too loved, they hate it. Beyonce hasn't done an interview in years, and look at the backlash. People are still just being like, oh, when you are Extremely loved. Yeah, when you are extremely loved, people cannot stand it.

[Draya Nicole]

I think it's confidence too. I think it's people who are confident and they speak with conviction. Because I understand what you were saying earlier too. Like, I'm the same type of way. If I say some. I'm standing 10 toes on what I say. I never retract my statements because I don't just say just to say it. Anything that I'm saying, I thought about it and I know exactly what the I mean. So you're not gonna get an apology out of me. Maybe you misunderstood what I'm saying, or maybe you don't agree, that's okay too,

[Deontay Kyle]

and I'm cool with that. But articulate the disagreement, right? And a lot of folks ain't doing

[Draya Nicole]

that cause they just want to disagree.

[Deontay Kyle]

They just gonna slander you.

[Draya Nicole]

Like.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like when you got a name calling, it's like, yeah, that's over with and we ain't talking about shit.

[Draya Nicole]

For real.

[Lex P]

I like that. Articulate the disagreement hoax. And people can't shut up, girl.

[Draya Nicole]

And they can rarely ever do that.

[Lex P]

They can't ever.

[Deontay Kyle]

But a lot of times it's so like, the thing for me is, like, I'm not really above correction. I grew up with a mama who was like, very serious about making sure you know what you talking about. So if I come to her with an idea or an opinion, it's like she gonna ask me 10 questions that might go against what I'm saying just to make sure that I'm 10 toes in what the fuck I'm talking about. Or she might see an angle of it where, like, I ain't thought about yet. So it's like, let me poke some holes in your shit to make sure you solid or just to, like, to challenge you. I need to challenge my child. And when it's like, I can't have you going out in the world saying this shit and you did dead wr. I think for me, it's like, before I speak, I research before I speak, I listen before I speak, I make sure I know what the fuck I'm talking about. Or at least from my perspective, I'm solid in what I believe and what my opinions are. Because this been how I felt about this. This ain't influenced by a nigga on social media. This ain't influenced by somebody I think cool or whatever like that. This influenced by me and my lived experience. So I think a lot of times it's easy to navigate the hate when I know, like, you just hate me for me.

[Draya Nicole]

You rooted in you. You know who you are.

[Deontay Kyle]

You just don't like me. That's cool. I'm cool with that. You ain't saying nothing about what I said.

[Draya Nicole]

Me too.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm the same way.

[Lex P]

So with you being, would you consider yourself pro black? I don't wanna.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, for sure.

[Lex P]

Pro black. So why do you think that people, instead of focusing on your message, it was, like, such a scandal that you had a. Or have a white mother biologically?

[Deontay Kyle]

I think there's just a way to discredit a person. Like, if I tell you I was giving away at birth, right? And my mama been my mama since I was two days old. Shit, I don't know what we talking about. I don't know that lady. I don't know that white woman.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Praise Jah. You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

But. Okay, can I. And I know y' all gonna be maybe calling me biased in the comments. If you wouldn't have said you was mixed, I would've known. You look like a nigga to me. You are not white passing.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

You know, it's not giving, like, hmm. What is he?

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't. I don't. But see, I think, you know, like, when people just spend a whole bunch of time around dogs and shit, they start looking like they dog.

[Lex P]

Mm. I mean, I kind of disagree.

[Draya Nicole]

Like, I feel like I could see it in. I think it's probably because of your hair, because you have locs.

[Deontay Kyle]

But it's. I grew up how I grew up. You know what I'm saying? I grew up how I grew up. My momma and my daddy is my mama and daddy. I don't. You know, if them folks had any need or want to know who I was, they'll come find me. You gave me away. You gotta come find me. I ain't going looking for you. And this is also something I found out about upon my mother's death and shit, too. So it's like, you know, this is new for me too. And if I can navigate that, if you gonna use that as a point to discredit me, bruh, that shit invalid, bruh. But I think for me, it's just like. I think I have to discredit. Like, we gotta discredit your blackness. So that mean everything you said where you care about black people or you want liberation for black people or advancement for black people or just black people to take a different perspective or take on to, like, community over this divisive shit? It's like we gonna discredit everything he's saying because his mama white. It's like, okay, N. But I think that's crazy because your mama black and you hate black people, so what the fuck that got to do?

[Draya Nicole]

Because how many of them don't be wanting to date black women on me?

[Deontay Kyle]

And I also feel like you finna make her me?

[Draya Nicole]

Yep.

[Lex P]

Your experience through life have been as a black man. Like I said, you're. To me, no offense, but you're not. Not. That's not even a physical. You're not passing. It doesn't give meant to me personally.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause it ain't been my experience. Right. I ain't grow up with no white woman. So it's like. I don't know what that's like. Yeah, I could see it on n. When I. You know what I'm saying? That white mama shit, that's a real thing.

[Lex P]

Oh, trust me.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. They move a little different, them white.

[Lex P]

You can always tell.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's like two different. It's like two different type white mamas too. Like, it's. Cause like, I got some homeboys that's mixed, but they mama kind of like, for lack of a better word, she a little nigga out.

[Lex P]

Like, she got that. This is my king haircut.

[Draya Nicole]

Drive the Nissan off the hell.

[Lex P]

You know what I'm talking about. That swoop and it spiked up in the back.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, the asymmetrical motherfucker. I know, but these niggas. But I grow up, these niggas, these niggas be bad as fuck, man. But I think. But they rooted in who they is. They rooted in they blackness. Like, they ain't never. I ain't never seen these conversations. So like, a lot of times that, like the whole white mama thing, that ain't something I really knew until the Internet was prevalent. And then it's like you start seeing it more and more. But I think anytime you in black spaces or you in spaces where you trying to, you know, just show love to black people or push community and push unity, it's always gonna be like a number of divisive types that's gonna come out. And that could be two black parents, four black grandparents. Like, them niggas still be divisive. Yeah, shit. Nigga have a whole lineage of black folks. And they date outside their race. And down top, they race. So it's like. I mean, what are we really talking about here? Is it. Is. Are we. Are we trying to unify black people? And do we have the understanding of, like, what the history of America is like, what you gonna tell Thomas Jefferson? Children ain't black. He ain't telling that.

[Draya Nicole]

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[Draya Nicole]

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[Draya Nicole]

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[Draya Nicole]

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[Draya Nicole]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Deontay Kyle]

And just when I said that, my mom comes out of the kitchen and she says, I have some cookies and milk. This is badass, convict. Just finished five years. I'm gonna have cookies and milk at mom.

[Cino Show Host]

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[Deontay Kyle]

I'm an alcoholic and without this problem, I'm gonna die.

[Cino Show Host]

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[Deontay Kyle]

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[Lex P]

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[Draya Nicole]

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[Draya Nicole]

I wanted to touch back on you being adopted a little bit. So I know you said your mom has passed away. A biological mom. Is your dad still alive?

[Deontay Kyle]

No, no, no. It's my mother. I don't know these biological foes.

[Draya Nicole]

Also, you don't have any type of connection.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was giving away at birth, so.

[Draya Nicole]

And you're not interested at all in like, finding them, having a conversation with

[Deontay Kyle]

them, I'm being honest. Like, I feel whole. You know what I'm saying? I was loved. I was raised a certain way. Like, everything that I was raised on made me who I am. I mean, reaching back, I had to really get to a point with myself where, like, I figured out what the 50, 50 of it was, right? Let's say I reach back and I get the. Like, they didn't want nothing to do with me. For real. That's gonna open up a whole nother can of worms for me where I already feel whole within myself. And it's like, if I don't have. Of course, like, when you come with new information, you want to kind of close the loop. And I came to a point where I could have got all the information I wanted. And I had to make a decision. Like, is this. I'm stable. I got my kids, I got my family. I know I'm loved by people. I know I got a support system. And I feel whole within myself. Like, if they ain't never tell me this, this ain't nothing. I would have never been thinking about. So I was like, I'm cool. Like, if they wanted something to do with me, you made the decision. Like I said, you made the decision. Getting away, you gotta make a decision to get back in my life. And it ain't for me to go searching for that shit. Because I was raised on love. Like, I was raised by some stand up women and men. So I don't really feel the need to like, undo that. And then I also understand too. It's just like, shit, that was a decision that was made, but that decision paved the way for me. And I'm good where I'm at. Like, I'm also, you know, this before my social media and anything too. So it's like these decisions I'm making in isolation, for real, you know what I mean? So I had a lot of time to think about this shit. And I'm very, like, I'm very comfortable and confident in my decision. So I don't really think about that. So, like, yeah, when my mother passed. My mother passed 20, 19. Of course, like, my father was like, yeah, man, you know what I'm saying? I kind of pressed him on it. Like, what's up? Cause you know what I'm saying, I know y' all was holding it down for her. Cause she don't play no games.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

So. But my mother had like womb issues and stillborns and miscarriages and shit like that, so. I was a big blessing for her. So, like, what? I'm a. Yeah, man. Once I. Once I get that part of the information, it's like, man, I'm a blessing to this woman, bro.

[Lex P]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. I'm not finna go fuck them, folks. Yeah, yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause I feel you on that. Because I have, like, a similar situation too. Cause I'm adopted as well. And I always felt like I was whole too. But it was always still something in me that wanted to know, like, very wanted to know who it was.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, okay. I see.

[Draya Nicole]

I wanted to know who they were. I wanted to know what they. It was just so many different things. What they looked, maybe with their personalities, like. But I still loved my parents. You know what I mean? They raised me and they gave me a very great life too. And I was raised on love as well. But it was just always a void that I felt like was missing. And I get what you saying as far as, like, the rejection, because I feel like that's a relationship that me and my biological mom have. Like, we don't really. I actually grew up around her my whole life, but we don't really have much of a relationship, and it's because of her. So it's interesting. Like, being adopted is just a very complex thing that I think most people don't really understand unless they've been through it. Because you have so many different emotions

[Deontay Kyle]

around it for me, too. So you gotta think, if my momma and daddy, dark skinned, brown skin, my grandparents, like, all my siblings, right? It's like, all right, somebody odd. I'm the odd man out in that motherfucker. And you know when you a kid, little kids, like, you around all your cousins and shit, they gonna say something like, my little cousin be like, why you white, bro? Like, what's up with you?

[Draya Nicole]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

But we children, you know what I'm saying? Children just gonna say the blood raw thing.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think more than anything, it was a very, like, soft spot from my mama. I ain't gonna say she was right. I don't feel like she was right, but I didn't process my anger around that.

[Draya Nicole]

But she didn't tell you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. But I think for me, the liberation of it was like knowing that I wasn't crazy. Nigga. I always knew that y' all seen

[Draya Nicole]

her line, that I was different.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And so, like, when did you find out she passed? May 2019. I found out June 2019.

[Lex P]

Oh, wow.

[Draya Nicole]

So, like, a few months after.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, a month after, yeah. But I'm telling you, this something, this you know, through observation, I'm smart enough to realize like, I'm 22 gonna equal fold. This ain't. You know, I only act like y' all for real, so. And the whole time, I ain't think I was a doctor. I just think I had. I thought I had a different daddy type.

[Lex P]

Shit.

[Draya Nicole]

Oh, you thought she was lying about your daddy?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, for sure.

[Draya Nicole]

But I do feel like kids are intuitive that way, too. Because my parents told me when I was like, four that I was adopted. So I knew my whole life, but my mom and my dad would never tell me who it was. But as I got older, I knew it was somebody in my family because I started to look like my cousin. And it ended up happening. It ended up happening to be her.

[Lex P]

Let me ask y' all a question. Do y' all feel like you wanting a relationship with your father or your biological father or mother, or even if you wanted a relationship with your biological parents, do y' all feel like that would be kind of like betraying the parents who raised you? Is that kind of something that ain't

[Deontay Kyle]

their decision to make?

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, exactly.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, I'm grown, I'm autonomous. I can have a relationship with these folks if I want. Cause at the end of the day, they still are a part of my story. You can see the anxiety on your parents face when you start talking about it, though. Cause they don't want you to. You know, you gotta think about how big a sacrifice it is for somebody to take on somebody's life.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I mean? So I think that a little bit of it is a little selfish on their part, but it's, you know, rightfully so. Like, I raised you. It's kind of like one of those ego things. Like, man, fuck them. They could have stepped up and been your. But I think, you know, the way my dad kind of pushed it to me, he was like. He was like, I want you to remember, like, I'm your dad. Like, no matter what you find out, I was like, nigga, I know that.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. But I called you and asked you, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what? You ain't my dad no more. Like, what?

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? But I think. Yeah, I think it's very complex. Cause it's very emotional, bro. Like, you know what I'm saying? They done see me literally out the womb. You know what I'm saying? So I think for my mom, I think as time passed on, it was just harder and harder for her to wrap her mind around, like, breaking that news. To me, even though I had been saying something, you know what I'm saying? I've been saying something since I was a little boy. But I think the most liberating part was like, damn, I knew I was right. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, cool, I'm good now. I ain't crazy. I could overly trust myself now. Cause that was the biggest complex that came from that is not really being able to trust my intuition or my thoughts or like, damn, am I ill informed about this? Is the things I feel inside real? Because I think this very strongly about this situation. And they keep telling me I'm wrong about it. And so, you know, all my family got smoked from that shit. Cause I was like, y' all niggas are complicit. Y' all gaslitin n for 30 years down there.

[Lex P]

That's crazy.

[Draya Nicole]

That's so crazy.

[Lex P]

I can't believe you found out so late.

[Draya Nicole]

So late. Yeah, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

But I mean, you know, my mom like a matriarch of the family. She very important. Nobody wanted to go against her. And then I think it's a complex thing. Like, you know, I can't make them decisions for people. I can't undo them decisions. And I think a lot of times with women and we don't address like how, you know, how like, touchy and vulnerable they can be around, like having womb issues.

[Lex P]

I mean, that's how they make us feel. If you are a woman, because we can bear children.

[Deontay Kyle]

You see what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

If you are meant to create life. So it's like if you can't, if you are a certain age and you don't have children.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, what's wrong with her? Yeah, I think the thing is, is like, that caused a big fracture in my parents relationship with eventually ended up in them being divorced. So I think, yeah, man, you know, I'm real, like, put myself in other people's shoes type person. It took me a long time to get there, but I think I was mature enough when I found out that I could like, really process the situation in full. Like. But I also didn't shy away from my anger about the shit either. And like, you know, I have family members. I literally just started back talking to same.

[Draya Nicole]

I stopped talking to a lot of people too when I initially found out

[Deontay Kyle]

who y' all niggas ain't play with my life.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause how can y' all keep this secret from me? Like. And you just feel like, damn, is everybody conspired against me. Cause how everybody else knew this shit And I'm the only one in the dark about it, you know?

[Deontay Kyle]

And that's how I've been having, like, you know what I'm saying? I go in the other room, it's like, hey, stop talking about that.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, yeah, be quiet when you walk in the room. But I definitely felt a certain level of. In the beginning, when my dad first passed away, I actually got connected to my biological dad. And I did a little bit feel like it was me betraying my dad, even though he had already passed away. But now I'm in a space where I realize, like you said, this is my decision, it's my life. I'm not doing anything wrong by wanting to know more about that side of myself. And I think that us as, like, people that are adopted, like, you should remove that guilt. And then I felt guilt as far as with my mom as well, because she had womb issues too, so she couldn't bear children of her own. And I always felt like I was like her miracle baby. And because of that, she's super overprotective. And at times I felt like she didn't really want me to have the relationship with them because she felt like it would be them taking me away from her.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. And it's a fear around it for them because, you know what I'm saying, like, my mother had, like, she had a stillborn. She didn't have miscarriages. You gotta think, like, I finally got. I got a baby.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's all you ever want, a little baby.

[Lex P]

Mm.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then, you know, my auntie was like, she was determined to have a child named Deontay in that world, you know what I'm saying?

[Draya Nicole]

She already had your name, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

But I think. I think I have to be mindful of, you know, like, what her state of mind was going through that, like, even with your mom, it's like, yeah, man. You know what I'm saying? This is something that I like. Again, to your point about the pressure to feel feminine and that being reliant on you being able to bear children, this is a very complex shit. And I think that just donating it to one thing or another, it's just like, it undermined the complexity of the situation for all people involved. And I think for me, another thing that I find solace is like, you know, I could have been in the foster care system.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? And like, you know, or a boardie. You did hard to kill me. I be thinking about they couldn't get Rid of me, man.

[Draya Nicole]

Right.

[Lex P]

You know, but y'.

[Draya Nicole]

All.

[Lex P]

I have to tell y' all this story just to. Because I think it's so crazy that nobody in Yalls family told y'.

[Draya Nicole]

All.

[Lex P]

I. My older sister had a friend. I'm not gonna say who.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah. Tell her everything.

[Lex P]

No, listen. My older sister had a friend, and she had a younger sister. So me and the younger sister would hang out. Her and the older sister were friends, so they were kinda like the Brady Bunch, you know, they were a blended family. So the friend, the younger sister, that was my friend, it was like, the mom had her kids, he had his kids, and when they got together, they had my friend.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right, Right.

[Lex P]

But, like, one day, like, my sister and the older ones were talking, and it came out that the younger sister, it wasn't her dad. For real. So I was like, oh, you know that's not your daddy.

[Draya Nicole]

Mm. I said that.

[Lex P]

I told. But I'm young.

[Draya Nicole]

Oh, you always be messy.

[Lex P]

I've been messy for a long.

[Draya Nicole]

That's crazy.

[Lex P]

That's why I'm like. I'm so. Like, the fact that y' all look, that's crazy. No, but it was. It was such a big deal.

[Draya Nicole]

But nobody in my. Like, none of my cousins that were around the same age as me and stuff, none of them knew.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

And an adult wasn't gonna come to me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Them niggas was keeping the secrets. Right. But I think as black community in general, like, we gotta stop all that secretive shit.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Because I think, you know, you causing. You don't know when this is gonna become a family problem.

[Draya Nicole]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Like, and I think the thing is, we owe people the truth. Like, you don't get to control or dictate the truth about somebody else's business. And more than anything, it's a bunch of adults thinking about themselves and not how it's affecting a child. And this is also, you know what I'm saying? Not to get in my goddamn koofy bag, but this is. Things that we've been dealing with in this country for a very long time is keeping secrets to protect. And, like, at some point, they go beyond protection and they go into, like, just negligence. Like. Yeah, you gotta think about how you affecting other people. And I think, you know, children are autonomous beings, too. Like, they deserve the truth. You know what I'm saying? Because you shaping their life in one way or the other, whether you shape it with a truth or a lie. And then when they act out, you're gonna blame them Instead of blaming yourself. That shit crazy to me.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

And I think a lot of parents be doing their children a disservice by not being honest with them about certain things. Because when they become adults and then they do find out the truth, they might not want to have a relationship with you.

[Deontay Kyle]

That part. And they'll be. And they'll be justified in that decision. But also too, you know, we gotta think about these children are gonna go into the world and be adults. How is this shaping their relationship with the world? You know what I'm saying? How is this shaping their relationship with other relationships?

[Draya Nicole]

Being trusted.

[Deontay Kyle]

They can't trust nobody. You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

All the time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everything, motherfucker. Like, let's say I find a woman in my motherfucking dreams and I can't trust her. Cause of these motherfuckers.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause you can't trust your mama.

[Deontay Kyle]

I can't trust my motherfucking mama. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like people gotta take themselves outta situations that's not gonna directly affect them. Even if you as the parents you as directly affected, the impact it's gonna have on a child is much greater. Cause this is a decision you made, you know, I wouldn't say to make yourself whole. It could be benevolent. You could see this child in a bad situation and want to get them out. At the end of the day, that's the extent of your service, though. You don't get to dictate the truth of their life.

[Draya Nicole]

Usually people are making those decisions for their own selfish reasons, though. Because more specifically, in my situation, my biological grandparents made the decision for my mom because my mom was a minor. So they made the decision that they made to cover their own ass.

[Deontay Kyle]

You see what I'm saying?

[Draya Nicole]

Cause they didn't want people to know.

[Deontay Kyle]

They didn't want the folks at the church talking about.

[Draya Nicole]

Talking about. Cause she was underage. My mom was 12 when she got pregnant with me. She had me at 13. So.

[Lex P]

Yeah, I be shocked every time I hear it, bitch. Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

And they hid her whole pregnancy from my whole family. Nobody in my family except for, like, the people involved. So a lot of my family found out. How many?

[Deontay Kyle]

12. When your mama. 24.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. That's young as hell.

[Lex P]

They could still go out and have a time together either.

[Draya Nicole]

Right now I'm 34, she 46.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, she just could drink. Yeah, you gotta. Y' all cool, though. Y'. All.

[Draya Nicole]

I mean, we.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, like you said, y' all don't really got that.

[Draya Nicole]

Well, we Grew up around each other because her mom is my mom's sister. My mom that raised me, her mom is my mom's sister that's technically her auntie. Technically techn, right. So my mom that raised me is technically my great grandma. I mean great auntie. Sorry. And then her sister is my grandmother. Heard you, right? So I grew up around my grandma

[Deontay Kyle]

that get, you know, get it get

[Draya Nicole]

a little tricky, get a little sticky.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't want to know what these folk got going on. I ain't going. Whatever nigga is doing in North Carolina, that's they business.

[Lex P]

I am a weaker, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

If you a in Concord, North Carolina, you look similar to. Let me see. Similar to me. See, I'll let y' all folks so.

[Draya Nicole]

Right.

[Lex P]

You said all your cousins and like everybody around you was like brown skin or dark skinned.

[Deontay Kyle]

Right.

[Lex P]

So I don't mean to be messy. I'm just really wondering, do you feel like that's why you be going so hard to be like pro black? Cause you gotta prove yourself.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think a lot of people think that, but this is like, this is my community, bro.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? Like I care about this shit just like anybody else. It ain't never really been, man. Bruh, you know, I went through. It's dark skinned people that get roasted the same way I got roasted for being light skinned. Yeah. So like we all went through trial and error. It was really about how you, you responded to shit. And like in my neighborhood, I grew up in all black neighborhoods, like working class black folks and shit. You got niggas, that's business owners, you got niggas, that's drug dealers, you got J's and you got great people, you know what I'm saying? It's very variety of blackness in my neighborhood growing up. So like I ain't never felt left out or odd man out, you know what I mean? So yeah, I just always, I always cared about my people. These my folks, you know what I'm saying? I don't need a reason. I think there is like some privilege that I experience that people dark that darker skinned people won't experience, especially men, they'll be a little bit more criminalized before I am. But I always just kind of like, shit, use that finesse. I'm finessing white folks too. Fuck them, right? Yeah, these my folks. Cause at the end of the day, soon as I say something you don't like, you gonna treat me like a nigga like them.

[Draya Nicole]

That's true.

[Deontay Kyle]

Guess what?

[Draya Nicole]

We gonna get down together and see, that's funny. Cause that's actually our first topic. Like why are light skinned people so pro black?

[Lex P]

Do.

[Draya Nicole]

Do you think it's because of historical trauma or do you feel like it's. Sometimes I don't see your proximity to whiteness.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think it's because of colorism. I think we just more prone to listen to light skinned folks.

[Draya Nicole]

Everybody.

[Lex P]

But I see two sides of it. Cause I sometimes see like blowing my shit up, light skinned people being like,

[Deontay Kyle]

hold on, can I?

[Lex P]

Go ahead.

[Deontay Kyle]

This big cat, he probably wanna say hey to y'. All.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Cause he ain't. He ain't. His ass asleep.

[Lex P]

Wake your ass up.

[Draya Nicole]

Hey, big cat.

[Lex P]

Cat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay.

[Draya Nicole]

We got a cat too, at 85. So shout out.

[Lex P]

Yeah, shout out to cat. Shout out to cat.

[Deontay Kyle]

What y' all talk about, bro? We do say what's up?

[Lex P]

Now he f like, what's up? Where you at?

[Draya Nicole]

Hey, what's up?

[Lex P]

That's what I.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's what I call for.

[Lex P]

Too late. Too late. You missed it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Exactly what I called.

[Draya Nicole]

Hey, how you doing?

[Deontay Kyle]

Good.

[Draya Nicole]

We sitting here with Deonce.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, don't start that, bro.

[Lex P]

You missed it. You missed it. Hey, how you doing? Good. You. We in here turning up.

[Deontay Kyle]

My bad. I missed. I missed the whole thing.

[Lex P]

That's all right.

[Draya Nicole]

That's okay. Next time.

[Deontay Kyle]

All right, son, do your thing. I told you. Hey, stop burning the midnight oil, nigga.

[Lex P]

I'm weak.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

All right, so I was saying like I see two sides of it because sometimes I see like light skinned people will be like, oh, we were treated differently because I'm so beautiful and I'm so light skinned. And like y' all don't understand the struggle of being light skinned because y' all be treating me like this. Cause oh my gosh, I can't help it. I have green eyes and I have this soft 3B hair. Ugh. The struggle. You know what I'm saying? So it's like sometimes it's kind of like it's a little disconnect.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think there's an aspect of this where we don't look at it from all sides. We just look at it from the vantage point that maybe make us the most comfortable or best suit the narrative that racism and colorism affect everybody. All black people. So just like you can have a dark skinned black person that hate black people, you have a dark skinned black person that love they blackness. You have a light skinned black person that hate black people. You have A light skinned person that love blackness. Same thing go with mixed folks, same thing will go with everybody. It's a very. It affects us all in different ways. You understand what I'm saying? The way it makes some niggas militant is the same way it makes some niggas timid and docile. So it's gonna affect everybody in different ways. I think that of course, if you look at, if you go look at the civil rights movement, if you go look at Black Panther movement, black empowerment movements at all, it's always gonna be men centered first. A lot of times these are gonna be lighter skinned men. You're your Malcolm X's, your Huey P. Newtons, but you also gonna have your Stokely Carmichaels. You gonna have women that's listen to, but not your darker skinned women. You gonna have your Angela Davises and Woody Woo woo. But it's gonna exist in like a spectrum of things.

[Draya Nicole]

I rose up.

[Lex P]

I mean, but that's what they say.

[Deontay Kyle]

It was a darker skinned woman, but it was a darker skinned woman that

[Draya Nicole]

actually, that actually did that took that

[Deontay Kyle]

play, you know what I'm saying? So I think that black people are always having PR in mind too. We always wanna like kind of dictate the way we're perceived. And you know, that shit come with your own colorist bias or your own internalized racism and anti blackness. I' ma speak like this even if niggas didn't know me. So the thing is, it's like, yeah, shit, I mean, nigga, I love our community, I love our people, I love myself. So you know, I ain't shy about expressing that. And then, you know, if you wanna psychoanalyze it and get to like whatever the deeper meanings is, then we can go down that road too. But it's like for me, I just don't know no different.

[Draya Nicole]

I just always felt like this conversation was so stupid and low vibrational and redundant because again, we're all black people. And we not gonna sit here and act like as African Americans here in the United States, all of our blood is not pure. Every single one.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't no monoracial black people.

[Lex P]

Right?

[Draya Nicole]

It's not.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is why I mentioned Thomas Jefferson children earlier. Right, right. Cause we know that like famously this n love black women. Loved loosely. I agree. Fetishized and whatever the case may be. But see here the thing, right, okay. It's like, that's like, why is it always. That'd be the same. It'd be crazy. If you ask, like, why is it always dark skinned People that love black people so much or fight so hard for black people. It's like, that makes sense, right? As light skinned people. But then if we both in a room, we both get called a nigger, then what's the difference?

[Draya Nicole]

It's not. It's not. And I think like, people only take it as a bad thing coming from lighter skinned people because with darker skin, they feel like, oh, you're more black. But in reality, we all black.

[Lex P]

We're all black.

[Draya Nicole]

They feel like y' all are more in proximity to whiteness.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, yeah, but if I was going big and Uncle Tom and this shit, they'd be like, see, this is light skinned shit. It's like, right? It's like, bro, we gotta can't win. So it's like, why fight it? I understand racism, colonialism, imperialism, colorism. I know all the isms, nigga. So if we wanna get into that conversation, we can. But we also gotta be mindful of like, how these things affect us and how we project the way they affect us too. So you know what I'm saying? Whatever the case may be, I don't really get caught up in like the. I ain't never thought about this shit like this. I ain't like, bro, a nigga really think that I was like, you know, I'm dark skinned. I gotta prove my blackness.

[Lex P]

That's crazy. Cause you know, this is when they,

[Deontay Kyle]

when they do this, you know, a

[Lex P]

lot of these niggas, my brothers and

[Draya Nicole]

sisters, tell somebody to do this.

[Deontay Kyle]

I love talking like this. This is crazy. This one n know I'm finna play ball.

[Lex P]

Oh, shit. I gotta start doing that when I get serious. Mean business.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm being ass serious when I go here with it. He loves it.

[Draya Nicole]

It's a Mean Business song.

[Deontay Kyle]

Or this one right here. Let me stop doing that. Cause y' all already saying I'm an Illuminati. But I think really, really more than anything, it's like I never had this conversation with myself.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

A lot of things that people project onto me, it's like, damn, I ain't never thought about that shit.

[Lex P]

Let me, let me ask you this. Cause this kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier and the honesty with your children. Are you gonna tell your children that biologically they have a white grandmother?

[Deontay Kyle]

They know.

[Lex P]

Oh, they already know.

[Deontay Kyle]

As soon as I found out, I told them. I tell my kids everything. Okay? So like, that's the thing. It's like I gotta stand on the same shit that I believe in.

[Lex P]

Okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm so, like, my oldest son, he been diagnosed autistic since he was 4. We ain't never tried to dance around that conversation with him. We taught him straight up, and we told him, like, you gonna show up differently in the world, and that's okay. And we gonna work through these things that you show up through differently if this is something you feel like you wanna work on. But if, like, I'm always encouraging my kids to just be completely themselves. So I think a lot of times, when you want one thing I ain't never wanna be is a nigga that rides so hard for the community. But I'm a bad dad.

[Lex P]

I hate a bad daddy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, bad daddy.

[Lex P]

See, in my younger days, I love the bad daddy. Cause that means you had time for me and my good coochie.

[Deontay Kyle]

Very selfish.

[Lex P]

And we was outside.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I mean?

[Lex P]

I didn't give a damn. Yes. I'm not like, that's. I don't lie.

[Draya Nicole]

I was young.

[Lex P]

I was young. I'm like, he want to take me out on a trip. He wanted two this. And I didn't give a damn. I didn't care. I didn't ask. But now it's like, that drive the coochie up.

[Draya Nicole]

You a bad father.

[Lex P]

Oh, yeah, of course. Now. But can I.

[Draya Nicole]

That's how you show up for your kids.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, here's the thing.

[Draya Nicole]

Eventually, that's how you gonna show up for me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, the thing is, too, is, like, the act that we engaging in is how I got these kids in the first place, Right?

[Lex P]

But let me. Can I ask y' all a question?

[Draya Nicole]

You my next victim.

[Lex P]

I'm gonna ask y' all a question.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ready to be a single mother, right?

[Lex P]

I'm gonna ask y' all a question about the kids in a second. Cause this is. I wanna ask both of y' all something. But in the meantime, introduce yourself, my girl, and tell us what we drinking today. And give us a little background if people wanna know who you are.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, okay.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Draya Nicole]

Little background. Well, hey, everybody. My name is Inez, but I was referred by Ty, though. So me and Ty, we cool people. Okay, now we good.

[Lex P]

We good.

[Draya Nicole]

A little bit about me, you know, I'm a local cocktail dealer here. I also go by the Agave Princess. I'm all things tequila.

[Lex P]

Ooh.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's why she made that drink.

[Lex P]

Let's get two more.

[Draya Nicole]

While we heard yesterday that he was a repo guy, I took it upon myself. I made this a little.

[Lex P]

It's called the Southern Spark.

[Draya Nicole]

Because y' all spark your shit.

[Lex P]

Up. Okay.

[Draya Nicole]

Okay, That's.

[Lex P]

You know, I like that.

[Draya Nicole]

And we, in a sense, I got a little repo, a little ginger beer, some guava, some pineapple. Kept it cute, kept it tropical. And a good sip, a good vibe. I love it. That's what I'm here for. It's delicious.

[Lex P]

It is delicious. I'll take another one. Add little titas in mine. I got you. You want another one?

[Draya Nicole]

I got a little special potion in mine.

[Lex P]

Yeah, she got another one away. So before we get to the next topic, I do want to ask y' all this. I saw somebody talking about this and I thought it was interesting. They said people don't realize that the reason why a lot of black women are dissed and being we are talked bad about in other cultures and in our own culture. Why? Cause we're not married, we're single and we're baby mothers. But they're like, this all has to do with our proximity with black men. So how do y' all feel about that conversation of like, people every time they diss a black woman? It has something to do with black men not marrying us. Black men not stepping up and being good fathers and things that have to do with that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm gonna say this right, so the world sees the world through the lens of white people because of colonialism. So who created this like puritanical, monogamous culture? Now, I'm not finna sit here and cape like, niggas need all these wives. That ain't what I'm saying. What I'm saying is the standard of marriage and our relationship to women is the. It was given example to us from white people and how they related to they women. So we know white niggas hate they women low key, you know what I'm saying? Like, the only thing that. I mean, black men had the right to vote before white women. That tell you a lot about this country, right? That tell you a lot about white men in general.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think for me, we do need to be more mindful of like. Like family structure, family breakdown, how we do those things. But we also gotta be mindful that we was doing all that shit before crack.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, crack.

[Lex P]

I always say this is the issue, nigga.

[Deontay Kyle]

That shit broke everything down. I keep the reason I'mma sound like a broken record, but I'm telling you, that war on drugs destroyed literally every facet of our community. I'm not saying baby mamas didn't exist before then, but I'm pretty sure they exist at the same rate they do for everybody. Else, I think we talk about our businesses. We talk about everything. Every aspect of our neighborhood and our community. We was thriving.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like reconstruction. Niggas was thriving. Yes. Thriving under the threat of Jim Crow and constant violence from white people. Thriving under the threat of being thrown in prison for the rest of your life to work on a chain gun or be hung for having too much. Thriving under the threat of I own all this land and a white man could just come over here and kill me and take my shit. Still thriving. Okay. Free market capitalism is white people's. Oh, it's the free market. Free market until black people build a Wall Street. Now we're gonna drop bombs in America cause black people doing too good.

[Draya Nicole]

It's always when we catch on sheep shift.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. But what I think the thing is, is that when we left alone, they don't know how to leave us alone. Because when we left alone, we build and we do our thing and we do for each other. And I think the biggest thing about colonialism is that it needs to be in your business. And the only way to be in your business is to constantly disrupt your business. So I think for me, I don't really. If you only gonna talk about the effects of things and not the causes, I don't really wanna have no conversation with you because everything. You know what I'm saying? Like, you go to therapy today, if you start therapy right now, what's the first thing they gonna wanna address? Your childhood? Cause they gonna wanna get into the root causes of this behavior. So if we wanna get into the. Like, if we wanna look at the behavior of black people, what are the causes? And these are the effects of these behaviors. You can't tell a community that was ravaged by a drug that took mothers out the home, fathers out the home, incarcerated them. Make moms like black moms. The standard of mothers in America, raising white people, babies now are bad mothers. Y' all tripping, bro. I don't be wanting to hear that shit, okay? But I think a lot of times too, it's just like. Like we also need to be. That's not an excuse, okay? If we don't talk about the causes of the behavior, then we won't fix the behavior because then we'll just make excuses. But I think for me, if we know the root causes, then we have to fix the behaviors. Even if we living in the effects. Like, oh, my daddy wasn't there, so what? Be there for your children or don't have children.

[Lex P]

That's what we need to talk about.

[Draya Nicole]

We do and we were definitely just set up to fail here in America. It's just so many instances where not only were people doing the drugs in our community, but also in the early 90s, you had so many young black men going to jail for having small amounts of weed on them, and they were giving them life sentences. That happened to my dad, to my biological dad.

[Lex P]

And now they owning. They owning dispensaries.

[Draya Nicole]

Now it's legal.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is the thing, man. I don't. I don't be giving a fuck about what folks got to say about us. Cause, like, obviously a lot of the criticism is not rooted in love, and it's rooted in this better than black people mentality.

[Draya Nicole]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

And you know what I'm saying, if that's gonna be, like, the way you approach it, I don't really got no talk for you like that. I'm more.

[Lex P]

So.

[Deontay Kyle]

I wanna build with people who wanna build. I wanna build with builders. I don't wanna build with niggas who look at the structure and be like, you know what? We should te. Shut up. You ain't even hear when we built this shit. You know what I'm saying? But I think more than anything, we have to always be mindful of the historical aspect of who we are. All this great culture, all these great characteristics that come from our community is also rooted in a lot of trauma and our responses to trauma. But also, a lot of times our response to trauma be community. And we don't live in that aspect now because we live in a simulation of community. Cause we got these phones.

[Lex P]

Yeah, it's these motherfucking phones, I'm telling you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

And speaking of trauma, let's talk about it. For the second topic, let's talk about black men's preferences in dating younger women and how it is affecting the black community in a black household.

[Lex P]

Talk about it, I feel like. And I'm gonna use myself as an example right in my head, not in my head. How I move in the world. I'm cream of the crop, right? I'm a great catch, and I know that. But that's because I'm sure within myself and my community and how I feel, you know what I'm saying? I know the value in myself. But when I get online and I'm popping my shit and I'm talking, I'm having fun with my homegirl. And we're successful women. There's men in the comments like, oh, but she's single. She's not married. She don't have no kids. This is why you Gotta get em when they 22, 23. And it'll be a 40 year old man saying this a 40 year old man who should. I should be the type of woman that he's trying to court. But instead you're like, mm, this is used baggage. She's used, she's dirt. Let me go get a 22 year old.

[Deontay Kyle]

Okay, well here's the thing. You want somebody young and dumb because then you come out into being like the type of woman, like that perfect, whatever that. Don't question me, don't challenge me, don't hold me accountable. A grown woman that took care of herself, went through her own trials and triple A, it was a different standard. And I may expect you to be on the same grown up standard as me. And our culture infantilizes black men. So when we talking about mass incarceration of black men, these men is going into prison from anywhere from 15 to 24. And when you go in, you not acclimated to society. So you also are not becoming an adult the same way niggas on the street is becoming adults.

[Draya Nicole]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Street culture is very infantilized. What they tell you about hip hop, all this shit is geared towards the attention of young people. So you got niggas that's 40 years old, that's still dressed like a 20 year old.

[Lex P]

Ooh, I hate to see it in

[Deontay Kyle]

a mirror, but you understand what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

Why you got a cane and you got a mirror?

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me shout this out. Let me shout it up with licks too.

[Lex P]

Take it off.

[Deontay Kyle]

Can I shout it up with Litz?

[Lex P]

You in a fucking. You got a walker with tennis balls at the end of it.

[Deontay Kyle]

The thing is, but you think you got that shit on and so it's not necessarily like, I'm not putting niggas down, I just need niggas to understand what the situation is. Like you've been infantilized, so you haven't been held to an expectation to grow at the same rate as other men in this society.

[Lex P]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Most men at 35 is thinking about family, is thinking about business, is thinking about structural things towards the future and not thinking about like what their relationship to young women is. I don't even wanna talk to a woman that don't got a three in her age.

[Lex P]

Come on now.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm 35, bro. Like, get away from me, you know what I'm saying? And the thing is, I understand like the maturity of things. 27, 28, 29, like, yeah, we probably could hold each other attention and have a certain conversation. But then think about this. If you don't got no kids, you ain't never married before, then we definitely don't got nothing to talk about. Cause my experience in life is just completely different for yours. You don't got no kids, you ain't trying to be no stepmom.

[Draya Nicole]

And one of the main things, too, that a lot of.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, unless you. But if you talking to a woman that's my same age and she don't got kids, she might have already had this conversation. Like, okay, any man I meet from here for, he gonna have kids. If I want to be with a nigga that's a good dad, I have to take on a stepmother role.

[Lex P]

Exactly.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is a thing that come with maturity. Like. Like, I think, what the fuck? Like, I got little cousins that's 20, 21, 22. I don't like talking to these nigga.

[Draya Nicole]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Because it's like, it's not that I don't love them. It's just our conversation is so different.

[Lex P]

So different.

[Deontay Kyle]

And so it's like, what the fuck? These predatory behavior is so normalized. Pedophiles are protected.

[Lex P]

They running the country.

[Deontay Kyle]

Niggas that. You dig what I'm saying? This is a protected class of people.

[Draya Nicole]

I wish you.

[Deontay Kyle]

When you right, it's a protected class of people. We don't talk about the amount of little boys and little girls that are molested when they growing up and protected and gotta be around these niggas that did this shit to them or women that did this shit to them, and everybody acting like ain't nothing happened. So when you see a nigga talking like that, he understand how normalized predatory behavior is. Of course. Like, he. It's legal. You dig what I'm saying? So a nigga look at that. Like, well, I ain't saying nothing wrong. She 22, she grown, nigga. You know better than that.

[Draya Nicole]

And that's what I was gonna say,

[Deontay Kyle]

what you was doing at 22, right?

[Draya Nicole]

And that's what I was gonna say. To me, it's like borderline a predatory fetish. At the end of the day, what do you want with a woman?

[Lex P]

He was. He was going to take that shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm ready to talk about this shit. This is great. Great episode, guys. The 30 shots, man.

[Draya Nicole]

What do you want with a woman that's significantly younger than you? And I feel like a lot of those men, they typically love to say, oh, it's a fertility thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, these women are liars.

[Draya Nicole]

Right? Because the myth has been dispelled that after 35. You can't still have children. It's so many women who are having healthy children, healthy pregnancies, 35 plus well into their 40. So we can't use that as an excuse anymore.

[Lex P]

But not that they saying, oh, but she's not fertile anymore. You got four kids already that you don't even take care of.

[Draya Nicole]

And let's also chat about the fact that it's women in their early twenties who not fertile.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's not about fertility. It's an excuse. Hello? Okay, so like here's the thing, right? We gotta understand that like a lot of the standard of beauty in America and throughout the world is centered around whiteness. And the white standard of beauty is centered around pre pubescent women. They're like a skinny, frail, hairless. Hairless for whatever reason.

[Draya Nicole]

Like, man, that's why Brazilian waxes became a thing. Hold on.

[Lex P]

But I like my wax now.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? But the thing is, is that a lot of like rape culture, pedophilia, all that shit is normalized to the point where it's like niggas don't think they saying nothing wrong. They think something wrong with you for not agreeing with them. But I think for me it's just like it'll take other men too. See, you got a bunch of weird niggas over here congregating and talking to each other and they in an echo chamber of weird niggas and they think the weird shit is cool. Then when they say it in public, they're like, what did I do wrong? Yeah, nah, the weird shit be normalized. We see it at the highest levels in the country. These N s is weird. And I think that, yeah, man, if you're a grown man and you don't wanna deal with another grown woman and you wanna start talking about fertility, N. Like, what are you saying?

[Lex P]

Talking about.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you got on. You on high blood pressure medication.

[Lex P]

That's all I'm saying though.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you got, you got, you, you, you working too many pills. My to be worried about fertility.

[Draya Nicole]

Little bluetooth.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's stop working about fertility and worry about retirement.

[Draya Nicole]

Hello.

[Lex P]

That's what I'm saying.

[Deontay Kyle]

401k my stocks and bonds.

[Lex P]

But I also think, like I said, the society has done that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't, I don't want to be around 40 year old still chasing bro. Like, like that's good.

[Lex P]

Come on now. You're weird.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lock in blood.

[Lex P]

Because what do they say as men age old men, they get fine with time that men age like wine and they try to make us feel like.

[Draya Nicole]

And so do we.

[Lex P]

Exactly.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nigga. Women be bad as fuck. I feel like I'm.

[Draya Nicole]

Y' all look at a woman right

[Deontay Kyle]

now, a woman from 20 to 25 and then 30 to 35. That 30 to 35 year old, that one.

[Draya Nicole]

It hit different.

[Deontay Kyle]

That shit hit different.

[Draya Nicole]

That's what I'm saying. I literally said that when I brought it up.

[Deontay Kyle]

But that's a nigga that actually like grown up women, right?

[Draya Nicole]

I said that the other day.

[Deontay Kyle]

The legal loophole for pedophilia is there, bruh. It's there. Niggas fight that like, oh, she grown. She's. She's the. If a nigga mentioned the Asian consent. Lock him up.

[Lex P]

Yep, lock him up.

[Deontay Kyle]

Just let him do 90 days in solitary confinement with a bunch of books.

[Lex P]

What you saying?

[Draya Nicole]

Well, no, I was just.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm sorry, my bad.

[Draya Nicole]

No, you good, you good. I was just saying I was on TikTok Live the other day and I actually had said that because I feel like, especially like with me and you, because we're so open about our age and stuff on the street show, whenever we be on social media, I'm sure it happened to you. So people are always trying to leave comments and call us old when like, my thing is, since when did 34 and 36 become old?

[Deontay Kyle]

Living in infantilized culture, nobody want to be young forever. And it's coming.

[Draya Nicole]

And the funniest part about it is majority of the time when Lex and I tell people our age, they're always shocked and think that we're significantly younger than what we say we are. So the point that I'm making is I was literally on live talking about how when I was in my early 20s, like I definitely used to think I was cute and I was was cute in my 20s, but like it's something about when I turned 30, that grown woman finding it just hit you different. And I truly feel like I look the best that I've ever looked right now.

[Lex P]

So that got abs now, period.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm more focused on health and wellness, like just a lot of different things.

[Deontay Kyle]

You're an adult, I'm an adult.

[Lex P]

I'm grown as you're grown.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm a grown man.

[Deontay Kyle]

I have my own bread, I got my own sense of style, I got wisdom because I have life experience. I don't care about like 20 year olds is doing everything that 20 year olds is doing.

[Draya Nicole]

Right?

[Deontay Kyle]

So a, that's 35 worried about what 20 year olds is doing.

[Lex P]

That's weird. It's weird.

[Draya Nicole]

Y' all don't have nothing in common.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, you moving backwards, bro. You supposed to be focused on some different. And for me, it's like, we. We. We need to find, like, we really need to find, like, the beauty and blessing in aging. Like, everybody don't get to do this.

[Lex P]

Come on.

[Draya Nicole]

You mean, are you done?

[Deontay Kyle]

Will talk about, like, oh, they died too young. Like, bro, this what y' all like, this what y'. All

[Draya Nicole]

Too young.

[Deontay Kyle]

Too young. Nigga, you died at the perfect age. You 22.

[Lex P]

Y' all up, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm 35. You telling me I'm old?

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, nigga.

[Lex P]

And I feel like, too, like you said, going back to, like, the things they're interested in. I feel like when me and Dra talk on the phone, we're talking about, like, how to invest our money, our next moves. She giving me tips on in the gym. Like, we talk about things that are

[Draya Nicole]

actually important, that we be talking about people, too, sometimes.

[Lex P]

Oh, sometimes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, listen, man.

[Lex P]

Now that be 90%.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, listen, man, I'm gonna keep it real, bruh.

[Lex P]

Gossip is. It's not no age.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want everybody to stop this idea that y' all not talking about other people, bro.

[Draya Nicole]

Babe, I hate that. I really hate that. She's all bad.

[Lex P]

I hate that. Oh, if you're gossiping, you ain't getting no money. I'm getting a lot of money.

[Draya Nicole]

Actually, we doing both.

[Lex P]

And I'm talking about y' all in the comments.

[Deontay Kyle]

Niggas rich off gossip, duality.

[Lex P]

Come on, now. Yeah, I hate. I'm not gonna lie. I hate that narrative.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think that this is everybody trying to like. Like, everybody's trying to make themselves seem like peak humans. Like, nigga, shut up.

[Lex P]

All I do is wake up in the morning.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, wake up in the morning.

[Lex P]

I grock, I drink my tea, I

[Draya Nicole]

do yoga, I meditate.

[Lex P]

But after that, gym, drink my mushroom coffee.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, I don't even drink the coffee. I eat it.

[Lex P]

Yeah, straight out the pack.

[Deontay Kyle]

Whey protein. I'm at the gym at 3:45 in the morning. I didn't even sleep.

[Lex P]

Like, I hate.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm on my third book this month now.

[Lex P]

I do think that there's people like that. I feel like the closest person I know that's like, that is probably Draya. But best believe my girl, when the tea is going down. It was out here yesterday.

[Draya Nicole]

I love some messy shit. Oh, I love some messy shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

I love when they popping. We are human people. We're humans. We are social creatures, nigga. A part of being Social is talking about society, nigga. People is in society, nigga. I'm talking about people. It may not be my central focus.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And also, too, it's like we just exchange a little information, that shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm putting you on.

[Draya Nicole]

Hey, man, look at that. But that's a good point, though. I think that's when it becomes a problem, though, when it's the central folk.

[Deontay Kyle]

If it's people, it is probably you talking about people.

[Lex P]

Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. I feel like we gossip, but I feel like, honestly, a lot of times we're talking about us and ourselves. Like, we do talk about ourselves a

[Deontay Kyle]

lot and our goals and the people that you got. Somebody's connected to you, right?

[Draya Nicole]

It's not. Well, for me, a lot of the time, it do be people that's connected to me, because I don't care that much about what strangers have going on.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, bro, me and I and my partners would go out. Like, if we go out n. Go out with me, especially me and Big Cat, like, we go out places and we meet in new experiences. Nigga debrief, like, mm. That nigga was acting weird, right? Am I tripping?

[Lex P]

I mean, you being. I'm not gonna lie, though, since we. Speaking of mess, you was, like, involved in some mess. You were on TikTok. Like it was something that happened with Jamila and the girl approached you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, man. Bruh. You know what I'm saying?

[Draya Nicole]

Now, see, Lex be knowing this type of shit that I be having no clue.

[Lex P]

Cause I be.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know if I was in. I don't know if I was involved. I involved my. And I shouldn't have did that. But at the same time, it's like,

[Lex P]

you was in women business.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, they put me in that shit.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

Why you approaching me about my friend that my partner? Yeah. No, like, me and Jamila, I'm always gonna fuck with Jamila. She put me on my first panel. She the first person to reach out to me outside of social media and put me in a room where I could actually express who I was. That shit was a big moment for me. That shit actually, like, turned me up. You know what I'm saying? She didn't have to do so, like, for me. And then anytime there's opportunities present, she always try to include me. Like, that been our whole shit we exchange on a business level. And I think also, like, you know, I don't think niggas know how to be. I ain't gonna say that. That's very generalized. I think we just need to normalize platonic relationships.

[Lex P]

Uh oh, not platonic. We not talking about platonics.

[Deontay Kyle]

I wasn't even thinking about doing it. No, I don't even think about Cam when I said that. I'm just saying like that's our relationship, like.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I think, you know, you know, anytime I'm sitting down with women and I start talking sense of what, niggas is the red pill. Niggas are gearing up. So after this drop, oh, they're going to be on. I'm going to get great marketing, you know what I mean? Shout out to you niggas. That's losers that's going to talk about me and calling me a panderer for the next two weeks. So I'm going to lean in. But the thing is, is that, yeah, you know, she approached me in a weird way. I didn't know what was going on. So it was like, why the fuck you telling me? She saw lying, she messy, she messy. I just, for me it was just like, why you telling me that you got beef with my friend? Uh oh. And so I was just like, when I, I didn't know what it was about. I was working, I was booked to host a show.

[Lex P]

I know you be booked and busy.

[Deontay Kyle]

Throw that out, you know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

But you was being messy though. Low key.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was being a little messy.

[Lex P]

You was a little messy, but I think that's okay. Cause it was in. You were taken up for your friend.

[Deontay Kyle]

Well, I just wanted to be a little clear. Let's clarify. Yeah, let's get the facts out there and then everybody can really make their decisions, you know, I mean I'm a very like, let's get all the information.

[Draya Nicole]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I'm saying? I like to be well read and researched, you know what I'm saying? Let's get all the information. I think that this is, I think my perspective was an aspect that was being left out.

[Lex P]

Okay, that's fair.

[Deontay Kyle]

And it was lacking. There's a lot of perspective being lacked. Let me just, let's just put some texture on the story. I think you lying a little bit. I think you lying a little bit. I think you lying to my friend a little bit, Shorty. I think so.

[Lex P]

Okay, that's fair. I'll give you a quick rundown. It was a girl that was talking shit about Jamila on the Internet. They seen each other in person at a party and shit got weird.

[Deontay Kyle]

That's the basis basically what it Was. I think she came up. She gained a lot of followers talking shit about, yeah, which is no bueno, you know what I'm saying? And I guess the whole situation was she approached her to try to, as she say, extend the olive branch. Like, how you gonna extend me an olive branch? And you been talking about shit about me. So Jamila was like, I'm good. Cool on that.

[Lex P]

You should have been.

[Deontay Kyle]

And then she went the next day and was like, y'. All.

[Draya Nicole]

I was like, she got back on the Internet.

[Lex P]

Yes. That's the thing.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's her thing. Solomon. What she do?

[Draya Nicole]

Got you.

[Deontay Kyle]

Why you gotta be mindful of the content? You. Because what if you. What if you.

[Lex P]

What if you.

[Deontay Kyle]

What if you get blow. What if you blow up on the weird shit on just that random video you wanted to make?

[Lex P]

Have you ever had a video?

[Draya Nicole]

That's what hoes be hoping, but they don't blow up off the weird shit majority of the time.

[Lex P]

Dre, can you imagine somebody who is giving you hell, talking shit about you, then you see them at an event, and they're like, hey, Dre, I just wanted to say ot. Ot there's nothing to say.

[Draya Nicole]

Respectfully, I think bitches know.

[Lex P]

Bitch, when it comes to me. They do. Dre.

[Draya Nicole]

Ain't nobody about to walk up to me after they. They was talking shit to me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Walk up to you, like, look, I want to give you an opportunity to squash this.

[Lex P]

Give you the opportunity. Like, give you the opportunity, bitch, are you done?

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's not linger too long, because she gonna get content for a week.

[Lex P]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Fact, she probably gonna clip it.

[Draya Nicole]

What y' all said, how they be putting their head and then they be having the background.

[Lex P]

Let's discuss.

[Draya Nicole]

Let's discuss this Poor Minds episode with Deontay Kyle.

[Deontay Kyle]

Deontay Kyle's a sexy episode. And this is when I was talking about men being in women's business. I always knew this nigga was a sassy ass nigga.

[Lex P]

Right? Okay, we gonna move on. What we got next?

[Draya Nicole]

So now it's time to get into the bit bow. The bit about the bit Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.

[Lex P]

How you feeling? Are you having a good time?

[Deontay Kyle]

I just vibe, bro.

[Lex P]

You know, we be chilling, man.

[Draya Nicole]

We got the drinks flowing.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was low key. A little salty about the little. You know what I mean? Like, damn, bro, we can't fort even. And I'll jump in.

[Lex P]

I'm weak. Okay, for the bad topic today. First of all, let me say this is sponsored by Salt X. Oh, let me tell y' all Something I'm gonna give y' all an updated, like, bathroom routine that I got going on. Because I'm gonna be honest, Salt XO has changed the game for me. My coochie been good now. It's great. Okay, shout out to Tony the tiger, baby.

[Draya Nicole]

And shout out to Jaleesa.

[Lex P]

I'm telling you, I don't know what it is about SOT xo, but I my favorite. It just. It's like I said, it's like a mint for the coochie. I always be ready and prepared.

[Draya Nicole]

You know, I mean, I love me some sautexo. And again, y', all, not only do they have the full size bottles, but they also have the travel size bottles as well now, so you could take it on the go. Good coochie to go.

[Lex P]

Good cookie to go. Good coochie to go. But ain't it to go by?

[Draya Nicole]

They need to start using that as a slogan. But also outside of just the wash, they have so many other inside products that are. Yes, you need something for the good. Well, you know, this isn't really so much for the good, but it's good for the

[Lex P]

lining.

[Draya Nicole]

So I love these slippery Elm pills, y'. All. Like, if you know, you know about slippery Elm. But you have to take it consistently. But if you take these pills consistently

[Lex P]

every day, we gonna send you. You can use these on your balls too. Yeah, you and your wife can share. She can use it on the coochie, you can use it on the balls. So y' all can have a good cause. This is what happens at the beginning of the night before you go out and you use the coochie wash. By the time you get home, pussy's still fresh.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. Facts.

[Lex P]

You don't even gotta go run to the bathroom. I told y' all about using that dial soap on your coochie. You don't even gotta do that salt XO got you for the night. So we gonna sit.

[Draya Nicole]

And they have wipes as well. Yep. Wipe it up, Wipe it up.

[Lex P]

I love to wipe that coochie and

[Draya Nicole]

then put a little oil on it so it ain't ashy.

[Lex P]

I know that's right. Okay, let's get to the topic. All right, my bad.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, it's cool.

[Lex P]

We gonna sit you on with some wash.

[Deontay Kyle]

The ball gotta be a genital product.

[Lex P]

Okay, so for the bad topic today, we wanna talk about the difference. You know, we're being woke this episode, so we gonna keep the theme going. We wanna talk about white porn versus black porn. It's crazy to think but everything is segregated. The club, the grocery stores.

[Draya Nicole]

And porn.

[Deontay Kyle]

And porn.

[Draya Nicole]

Well, I don't know. We come together in.

[Lex P]

Nah, I don't know.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, that should be like. That should be like pure white angel gets destroyed by big black.

[Lex P]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Draya Nicole]

I mean, I don't know.

[Lex P]

We need Ebony Queen gets destroyed. Not every big white.

[Deontay Kyle]

Not every, like, ghetto black bitch. So, yeah, not watching that.

[Lex P]

Segregation is a lie. Ebony bitch. Well, you know, you. You gotta say ebony bitch. You can't search black. You gotta search Ebony.

[Deontay Kyle]

You gotta search Ebony. Yeah.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God. So white and black porn can be totally different.

[Deontay Kyle]

Usually, black bitch takes white cops.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm sorry.

[Deontay Kyle]

They be tweaking with them titles.

[Lex P]

I just.

[Draya Nicole]

They do.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's getting the attention that it needs.

[Lex P]

I mean, I'm not gonna lie, though.

[Draya Nicole]

To be fair, we know what to

[Lex P]

type in for what we do.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, they done programmed us to this degrading shit.

[Lex P]

But I'm not gonna lie. I do not like to see. First of all, I don't like men in my porn, period.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't heard that.

[Lex P]

Fuck. I don't like to see dick and balls. They're not cute.

[Deontay Kyle]

They're not Fuck with a little solo

[Lex P]

vid, you know what I'm saying? I do like a little solo. Solo doing their thing. I like to see women on women, but honestly, I would rather see a black woman. I do. Give me my segregated porn. This is what we fought for. Yeah. I mean, keep it segregated. Some things to say segregate.

[Deontay Kyle]

Everybody feel that way. You know what I'm saying? You know that why they. Why they do that?

[Draya Nicole]

I don't know if this was quite what we fought for.

[Lex P]

Yes, we did.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't going to say we fought for this specifically, you know what I'm saying? Porn wasn't even a thing yet.

[Draya Nicole]

It wasn't. What, like the 70s?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Lex P]

But I feel like something about, you know what?

[Deontay Kyle]

Niggas is freaked out. Soon as the motion picture came, it was like, we should on top.

[Lex P]

And then. Do y'. All. They have haters for porn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ooh, you know the beat.

[Lex P]

Dream on our beat. I know that, right?

[Draya Nicole]

No, when you heard of porn, you be on a different beat.

[Deontay Kyle]

But no, listen, I miss music and porn.

[Lex P]

Cause like you say, what? Porn was created in 1896.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm telling you, niggas is freaky. Man was like, man, I ain't pitching some titties, man. What's up?

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Who trying to shutty too? Titties? Just one of These harlots.

[Lex P]

A harlot.

[Deontay Kyle]

Get this bitch some shillings, man.

[Draya Nicole]

Man, I know that 1896 porn was funky. I know that room was funky.

[Lex P]

Did y' all watch Game of Thrones?

[Deontay Kyle]

Do you know that a nigga at some point in human history have traded a goat for some pussy? Ooh.

[Lex P]

And I like a little goat.

[Deontay Kyle]

That would have been me.

[Lex P]

I was giving it up for that goat.

[Draya Nicole]

What?

[Lex P]

You can do a lot with some goat milk, milk stew, curry, you know what I'm saying?

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean, it's only one goat. You gotta get what you can, so you have to kill that motherfuck.

[Lex P]

But it's something about white porn.

[Deontay Kyle]

You eating good, though.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

It's something about white porn that just doesn't. Give it up for me. I don't like the word cock.

[Draya Nicole]

I kind of like that word.

[Lex P]

It's too.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's very, like. It's just funny.

[Lex P]

Cock gives too close to E.R. for me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, yeah, it sounds like.

[Lex P]

Really? Yes. Hey, listen, I do not like it.

[Deontay Kyle]

What if you was fucking a nigga and he was like, yeah, he like that cuff.

[Lex P]

You're going to jail. You're going. No, it's awful.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, don't be fucking with that.

[Draya Nicole]

And do.

[Lex P]

No, you have to say dick like it's something like that dick.

[Draya Nicole]

That dick.

[Lex P]

You like that dick. I'd be like, yes, that is. You know what I'm saying? I feel like black. It's just a swag.

[Deontay Kyle]

And I. I don't like the whole, like. I don't like white. The white cadence of like, fucking, like.

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

You like pussy. Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Why so quick?

[Deontay Kyle]

Actually, get off me, bitch.

[Lex P]

They doing. It's giving, like rabid.

[Draya Nicole]

They be humping.

[Deontay Kyle]

Black women be talking shit like that.

[Lex P]

It's very sexy. Like, we're very sultry in the bed.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. It's original, though. Like, why? It's like white people be fucking in a rush.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, they ain't supposed to be doing it.

[Lex P]

I don't like that. I can't walk.

[Draya Nicole]

They got somewhere to be.

[Lex P]

They do.

[Deontay Kyle]

White niggas be.

[Lex P]

Yes, just like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

God damn. What? You thought you weren't gonna give the.

[Lex P]

So

[Deontay Kyle]

they paid you the fuck up. Why you in a rush, right?

[Lex P]

Can I ask y' all a question?

[Deontay Kyle]

You know, I've never eaten fucking on film. They run out of film, nigga. I'm interested.

[Lex P]

Do you have them?

[Cheryl Strayed]

Dr.

[Deontay Kyle]

Ain't hitting Shawna Nazis. I'm glad we pass all this serious ass shittening.

[Lex P]

It's not that shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

We're gonna turn this Bitch up.

[Lex P]

Do you have a favorite porn star?

[Deontay Kyle]

No.

[Lex P]

That's weird to have a favorite.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hell, yeah. I'm 35.

[Lex P]

I mean, but you have somebody, like, not a favorite.

[Deontay Kyle]

When I was younger, man, I'm gonna tell you who it was. Who was it? Pinky.

[Lex P]

I knew you were gonna play Pinky.

[Deontay Kyle]

That little bit was stacked.

[Lex P]

Yeah, she got that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I had like a couple, like, little top five. I had a little Mexican. Safiya Castello, five deep. Had a white girl. Alexis, Texas. I had a variety.

[Draya Nicole]

Oh, I remember Alexis, Texas.

[Deontay Kyle]

She had the FedEx.

[Lex P]

Alexis, Texas.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I mean? Let me tell you something, brother.

[Lex P]

Wait, no, no, sir, not during.

[Deontay Kyle]

This is before I knew who daughter Umar was.

[Lex P]

Okay? Okay. Do you have a favorite porn star? I never asked you this.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't, not currently, no. But like, back in the day, it was this lady, I think her name was. What's her name? Lacey.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lacey Duvall.

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

Young Gunner.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Of course she's black.

[Lex P]

Okay. I had to ask. Yeah, I had to make sure.

[Deontay Kyle]

She has some big ass titties. Boy. She has some big fake ass, I'm not gonna lie.

[Draya Nicole]

You know what I realized that was back then when girls went black. Girls ain't really had a fake tits like this.

[Lex P]

You know what I realize? I like black women that have the fake little.

[Deontay Kyle]

You like a little bimbo?

[Lex P]

I like a little bimbo look sometimes. Cause it gives. Like. You are a whore. You are a slut. And I'm.

[Deontay Kyle]

And that's what I want to see.

[Lex P]

Yes, that's what I want to see.

[Deontay Kyle]

Hey, bro, look. This your profession. Sh. Do this. Do it well.

[Lex P]

You need to go in.

[Deontay Kyle]

I need you to be a real whore.

[Lex P]

I need you to.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I mean?

[Lex P]

This what we here.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm not here for amateur work. I want to fucking lock in. I need a professional in this bitch. Yes. You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

Yep. I like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

Y' all the fuck. A porn star. A porn star nigga.

[Lex P]

No, no. See, porn star niggas like porn.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah. Porn star niggas doing it.

[Draya Nicole]

I feel like I couldn't do that.

[Lex P]

Porn star women, they be kind of like tea. Like they can be T, but niggas.

[Draya Nicole]

But niggas maybe a little dusty.

[Deontay Kyle]

I remember one time.

[Draya Nicole]

Dusty feet.

[Lex P]

Please don't bother me.

[Deontay Kyle]

I remember one time watching the porn in some ls.

[Lex P]

Exactly.

[Draya Nicole]

That's the point we was making. We probably be wearing them dot eyes with the Spindlers, too.

[Lex P]

Remind us that be

[Deontay Kyle]

then they got a little fan in this motherfucker. That made. Then they starting electricity me and credit wind turn behind

[Lex P]

electricity.

[Deontay Kyle]

That boy Tesla. That boy going crazy.

[Draya Nicole]

And I

[Deontay Kyle]

this with dog before it would never me.

[Lex P]

But I'm not going to lie.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, I ain't going to lie. You get hard to get some pussy, some dogs.

[Draya Nicole]

You got to be a real to

[Deontay Kyle]

know about do East Bay magazine, you know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

I think East Bay magazine. I never got into, like, the Brian Pumper hype like, back in the day.

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, everybody fuck with no nigga that be rapping and fucking. Like, what you doing?

[Lex P]

Why nigga either get nabuta in the

[Deontay Kyle]

bed because like, one bro. You dividing the audience. Cause it's like that nigga got bars. And it's like, hold on.

[Lex P]

Why is this. Hold on.

[Deontay Kyle]

I want to see a dick.

[Lex P]

Hold on. Imagine you in the car. That nigga Brian Pumper go hard.

[Draya Nicole]

Huh? Which way?

[Deontay Kyle]

This nigga's a gooner. That nigga's freaked out, man. What's up with that nigga, man?

[Lex P]

I mean, that's a little, you know,

[Deontay Kyle]

being a porno nigga is not fire, bro.

[Lex P]

It's not.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna lie. It's like. It's like you get a lot of pussy.

[Draya Nicole]

Contractually, I feel like being a foreign nigga, it gives. I need this money. Like, it's giving tt off a Set

[Deontay Kyle]

it off and do it the old fast way. Man, fuck for Shelter, man.

[Lex P]

Yeah, fuck for Shelter. Hold on. You're crazy for that for Shelter. It's crazy, nigga.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't never fought for Shelter before.

[Lex P]

Nah, niggas, definitely.

[Deontay Kyle]

We had 2 ounces of mid and a bitch that was ready, you know what I mean? She needed somebody.

[Lex P]

Hobosexuals. Ladies, watch out.

[Draya Nicole]

They be out here.

[Lex P]

It's tax season two.

[Deontay Kyle]

She let me drive her car. No license. I was going to see other women. I'm like, look, Shawna got these dickies on. I got this mitt. You want smoke? I got a wh.

[Draya Nicole]

I got this. These dickies. And this dickies.

[Deontay Kyle]

A little dicky rod. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it.

[Lex P]

Y' all are awful. Okay, let me just say that. Go ahead, Dre.

[Draya Nicole]

I do want to ask y', all, though. Do y' all have any scenarios like, when y' all are watching porn, though? They piss y' all off.

[Deontay Kyle]

All of them?

[Lex P]

Yeah, honest. They're all bad.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's stop talking.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God. So much mail. Who delivered this mail? And then they.

[Draya Nicole]

It's a dick in a box.

[Lex P]

Like, shut Up.

[Deontay Kyle]

I was supposed to, like, you know what? I ain't gonna lie. The finest porn hoes be doing the property shit. Like, where they acting like they're real estate. It's like, oh, how you gonna pay? Okay, bitch. All right.

[Lex P]

But sometimes in this prop house. But sometimes. Sometimes it's very rare, but sometimes you'll get a storyline that's kind of good. Juicy. I be like, let me beat this meme finish. Cause I need to know what happened.

[Deontay Kyle]

I need people to be naked. Nigga, fuck all this talking. I don't need. Look, if I'm finna masturbate, I'm so horny.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't even care nothing about no dialogue, but I will hook me up to it.

[Lex P]

If you're watching the dialogue of a porn, you might be too horny for me.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, you will. Listen, I'm gonna tell you something.

[Draya Nicole]

Or you like a good story?

[Lex P]

I do like a good story every now. Every now and then. But sometimes people really tune in.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't gonna lie, man. The whole story is like, I know these folks finna fool.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, it's a good story, but how's it gonna happen?

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

What's the plot?

[Deontay Kyle]

No, I don't need to know. I'm gonna tell you something else, too. I'm gonna tell you N is you gotta go get a psychological evaluation if you leaving comments under the porn, bro.

[Lex P]

Okay, yeah, that's a little too far. But sometimes I'll read the comments.

[Draya Nicole]

You do? Mm.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'll be like, oh, they went in.

[Lex P]

Let me see what they talking about.

[Draya Nicole]

Oh, you read the comments before you watch the show?

[Deontay Kyle]

I seen the nigga be like, yelp reviews.

[Lex P]

I need a Yelp review. I need to know what's going on.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, n been a conversation, being delusional. Like, yeah, me next.

[Lex P]

What is anybody in South Carolina right now looking for? Hold on, wait. You need to slow down.

[Deontay Kyle]

Make this geolocation.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Draya Nicole]

I am weak as fuck, but I know I'm a little hood because sometimes I like the amateur porn over, like, the professional, high quality.

[Lex P]

The iPhone.

[Draya Nicole]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

I'm trying to see what real humans do.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I had read this book. It fucked me up about porn. Like, it fucked me up. So now that's like, I really need to be real people. Like, that's the only way I can really get into it. Because they was, like, talking about how, like, the performance of sex. Like, how porn is not sex. Not sex, nigga. So it's a performance of sex. So, like, yeah, man. That's why I'm Just like, let me find a woman that's just doing her thug thistle. You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

Cause sometimes they record it for fun,

[Deontay Kyle]

but they actually are enjoying it.

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's not like I'm fake. It's not performance. And then. Yeah, like real people. Yeah, we getting real raw emotions out there, motherfucker.

[Lex P]

And you know what's crazy, I think. Cause we've had a few porn stars on the couch and not like anybody. Like we've had the top tier. We had Janiece and then we had Be Nasty.

[Draya Nicole]

And what was that other girl name that we had on a long time ago.

[Deontay Kyle]

That was a long. I can't remember her name.

[Lex P]

Cookie.

[Draya Nicole]

Cookie.

[Lex P]

Cookie was a freak bitch. Cookie was nasty. But okay, I say all that to say it's like when you actually talk to them. I see. And I know this sounds so bad, but they be so cool and chill, laid back like.

[Deontay Kyle]

I mean. Cause they people we all fucking. I think the thing is some people fucking and getting a little money off that shit. But shit, I mean, that. That they vibe. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Draya Nicole]

I ain't mad at it.

[Deontay Kyle]

It ain't nothing really to judge. I mean, they freelancing that. They ain't free landing that. They ain't got no pimp, they ain't got damn sign. They ain't signed the west coast productions and shit like that. You know, they get. They getting they bag. You know what I'm saying? I think they found a way to hack, you know what I'm saying? If I could get. If I could sell drugs without a plug, I would. You did. I know that. There you go.

[Draya Nicole]

Me too.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't mad at it.

[Lex P]

Without going to jail. Now we own this long N. If

[Deontay Kyle]

I could go traffic drugs right now,

[Lex P]

right now without penitentiary site, nigga, all

[Deontay Kyle]

this contract, all this, all this podcast should be over with, nigga. This podcast is sponsored by Fentanyl, nigga.

[Draya Nicole]

Okay, now see,

[Lex P]

you know what? Now it's time to move on.

[Draya Nicole]

Now it's time to get into the bop. Hey, the bow bow. The bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow.

[Lex P]

So bop of the week is the music that we've been jamming this week. You know, it's a lot of good new music out and you know, the old N is back. And I don't wanna say old N is in a derogatory.

[Deontay Kyle]

Nah, that's real though. That's what I mean.

[Lex P]

The niggas that really was rapping, they gotta show you Y N's how to get on a track. Juvenile got a new record out.

[Draya Nicole]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. I like his new song.

[Lex P]

Cause, yeah, he like.

[Deontay Kyle]

When I heard that, I was like,

[Lex P]

he's talking about, you wanna fuck with. You gotta fuck with an old nigga. What you doing with this young nigga for?

[Draya Nicole]

And I like it. Cause it's like twerking music.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Let's give it nine nines in the 2000s again.

[Lex P]

TI dropped a song produced by Pharrell. Let him know he did fire like don't get it twisted. This is Tip coming live from the vip. Stop playing with. Stop playing with our legends.

[Deontay Kyle]

She like that little bar I do. It's like the third time I heard that.

[Lex P]

Yeah, that's my shit. That's her shit.

[Deontay Kyle]

She love it.

[Lex P]

We get it. Because my thing is.

[Deontay Kyle]

No, that's real.

[Lex P]

I think the young people say, please young people too much. Be playing with our legends. And they feel like, oh, y' all don't know.

[Deontay Kyle]

First of all, them old N out rapping. All you n. I'm rapping. They call Bunch City Blues. That's all I've been running.

[Draya Nicole]

That's what I was about to say on the future.

[Deontay Kyle]

That sounds so hard.

[Draya Nicole]

That's crazy that you took my vibe.

[Deontay Kyle]

That nigga Jace Cole called N a punk bitch 30 something times.

[Lex P]

Come on now.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know how much you got a mean nigga to call a nigga a punk bitch? Girl, that mean. You mean that you a punk ass bitch.

[Lex P]

That's what I'm saying.

[Draya Nicole]

Bitch ass nigga really ate whoever came. I seen a meme. But whoever came up with bitch ass,

[Deontay Kyle]

you know how they so crazy, bro. That's a real. That's like literary expertise, nigga.

[Lex P]

I just feel like a lot of times people get disrespectful about our legends. They be like, oh, y' all ain't okay. Let Pharrell hop on that track, ho ass nigga, and show you what the fuck he can do.

[Deontay Kyle]

You know what I mean?

[Lex P]

Don't let that Louis Vuitton don shit fool you, nigga.

[Deontay Kyle]

That little folk.

[Lex P]

Come on.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, you that little fool.

[Lex P]

Like, come on, like, see, I.

[Draya Nicole]

With the hat aside.

[Lex P]

Yeah, that motherfucker.

[Deontay Kyle]

Lean in. Let's go. I seen that nigga, like, two days after he cut his hair.

[Lex P]

I was like, they said he got a facelift. Yeah, they say he cut that hair and it looked like a brand new, nigga. Maybe he's born with it. Maybe it's Maybelline. Ho ass nigga.

[Draya Nicole]

People look good.

[Lex P]

Ice him out. What's Y' all bops.

[Draya Nicole]

Well, I feel like Deonce said he's bops. Maybe he's Maybelline.

[Lex P]

He's crazy.

[Draya Nicole]

What happened, bro?

[Lex P]

Poor Lord.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm glad we about to wrap this shit up.

[Lex P]

What he.

[Deontay Kyle]

Look, baby, it's Mandalay.

[Lex P]

Let him know.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let him know anything. Ass nigga is just funny.

[Draya Nicole]

It's funny. It's funny. They ate with that.

[Deontay Kyle]

My bad. I ain't mean to steal your shit. I got another. I got a little.

[Lex P]

Are you okay?

[Deontay Kyle]

Got a little backup.

[Draya Nicole]

Well, it could be both of ours. What was it his song that he said? Bounce Roll Blues by J. Cole.

[Lex P]

Oh, yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

I ain't say nothing about no bounce roll Buns.

[Draya Nicole]

My bad.

[Deontay Kyle]

Bunts. Right? Blues.

[Draya Nicole]

My bad.

[Lex P]

Not bunce.

[Draya Nicole]

I mean, not bounce Blunts. That little.

[Deontay Kyle]

Stop lying, bro. It ain't got nothing to do with that. Drink it.

[Lex P]

Do it. Got a little.

[Draya Nicole]

Little secret potion in there.

[Lex P]

What is going on? Sipping on that cbd, but not on Future. Because somebody had made a thing like, oh, Future can't rap no more. Stop it, man.

[Deontay Kyle]

We stopped the narrative.

[Draya Nicole]

Stop.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't. I ain't gonna lie, man. I'm starting to get ages, bro.

[Draya Nicole]

Why?

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't want to hear the opinions of people younger than 25 no more.

[Lex P]

That's fair.

[Deontay Kyle]

Again.

[Lex P]

Old. Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, Future, bruh. Shut up, bro.

[Lex P]

The people was mad at Brandy doing the runs. That national anthem was beautiful. It was Brandy. Like, let's stop it.

[Deontay Kyle]

It's a lot of revisionist history that be happening with that. We got to stop doing.

[Lex P]

We got to stop doing. Y' all stop acting like Whitney Houston herself. Say Brandi was the most talented.

[Deontay Kyle]

Niggas be acting like. Let's start acting like Christina Aguilera can sing. Y' all don't do this to watch.

[Draya Nicole]

I wanna shoot, baby.

[Lex P]

No.

[Draya Nicole]

That's what it sound like he was about.

[Lex P]

Mr. Tito's man. I'm sorry, Mike. My bad. M

[Draya Nicole]

right. Exactly. It's all around. It's all.

[Deontay Kyle]

What's your song, bro?

[Draya Nicole]

Bus Roll, booze. But also just the whole J. Cole, the fall off album. I've been with the album, but yeah,

[Deontay Kyle]

I like that poor thing. Baby. Bro, what the wrong with you, bro?

[Draya Nicole]

But I've also.

[Lex P]

I'm not doing it no more.

[Deontay Kyle]

What she doing?

[Lex P]

Don't tempt me.

[Deontay Kyle]

What? She kitschy Kitchy,

[Draya Nicole]

Y'.

[Lex P]

All. We gotta wrap this up. The whole J. Cole, the fall off album.

[Draya Nicole]

My bad is tea. But I've also been, like, a huge J. Cole fan for a long time, so I'm glad that he just came out with the new album and shout out to J. Cole, because he been following Poor Minds for like, five, six years.

[Lex P]

He fucked with the girl. He knew something about.

[Deontay Kyle]

He didn't come on the show. He knew I was. He was like, oh.

[Lex P]

I was like, yeah, the big swole kings done linked up, right?

[Deontay Kyle]

Like, shit.

[Lex P]

You know what I'm saying? That would be a good episode.

[Deontay Kyle]

Be a whole nigger together.

[Lex P]

I know that's right.

[Deontay Kyle]

Collectively, y' all 100% collective hoe nigga. Know what I'm saying?

[Draya Nicole]

That's a group name.

[Lex P]

Collective Ho. Collective Ho. Only to come out with an album.

[Deontay Kyle]

He come on my show, that shit gonna be called a whole nigga.

[Lex P]

I'm liking it.

[Draya Nicole]

I like that.

[Deontay Kyle]

I like it. I'mma pitch that to his team. Let's call EB after this.

[Draya Nicole]

Okay, so y' all know it's time to get into our favorite segment of the show, which is pour your heart out. If you have any questions, you can always send them to ask Poor Minds Gmail dot com. That's as K P O U R M I N D S Gmail dot com.

[Lex P]

Yep.

[Draya Nicole]

So let's get into it. Hey, y', all, I need advice. When I was about 21 years old, I dated a guy. He was about 32 at the time. Wait, he was about 32? 33 at the time. Handsome guy, drama free and very private. I ended up cutting things off due to the lack of connection. We remain friends, though, throughout the year. Years. We lost contact for a while and recently, within the past year, reconnected on social media. I'm 34 now, and as I've matured over the years, I've came to the conclusion that I wasn't mature enough during to our. During our time together and wasn't quite ready for what he brought to the table. I've always dated older, so the age gap isn't an issue for me any longer, and I want to spin the block. My only issue is a few years after we dated, I physically transitioned from male to female. I don't know how he feels about it, and I'm scared to even ask. I recently spoke to a friend about it, and the next day they told me to put the plan in motion. So I'm assuming they may have already put a bug in his ear. Can y' all help me?

[Lex P]

I'm not gonna lie. I feel like I'm not educated enough to give proper advice because you said you dated a guy and you said you transitioned from male to female, so I'm assuming that y' all were in a gay relationship and now you've transitioned into a female. But, I mean, if I don't. You didn't give us enough information, though. Is this guy bisexual where he's attracted to women and men? Like, I don't think there's enough information for me to give you a proper answer, but I will say I feel like nothing is wrong with the conversation. Now, I'm not an advocate of spinning the block. I don't care what you are lgbtq.

[Deontay Kyle]

I don't know about give a damn.

[Lex P]

I'm not an advocate of spinning the block just because I've spun the block, and it has never worked out in my favor.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

So I think you do need to be aware of spinning the block. It don't matter what you got. I don't know. I'm not for it.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let me be spinning the block for six.

[Lex P]

That's what I'm saying. So I feel like, what is your

[Deontay Kyle]

reason for spinning the block? Like, bro, I'm trying to come with you one time.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Or to see if they still got access.

[Deontay Kyle]

Let's get these flashbacks out of my mind real quick. Let's go ahead and make this a real thing, and then we're gonna keep going with our life.

[Lex P]

Yes, I agree. I mean, I feel like it's been a long time.

[Deontay Kyle]

New face, what's up?

[Draya Nicole]

I mean, and I feel like it ain't no harm. I mean, for real, though, it ain't no harm in seeing, but I used to watch that show Pose. I don't know if y' all ever watch.

[Lex P]

Oh, yeah, I do watch Pose.

[Draya Nicole]

I used to watch.

[Deontay Kyle]

I got a brand new team for you, nigga. This same bitch.

[Lex P]

It's different, and it's tight.

[Deontay Kyle]

Oh, it's brand new.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, it's brand new. No miles on it. But no, I.

[Deontay Kyle]

Car smell in this motherfucker.

[Draya Nicole]

Hear me? But no, for real, though. I used to watch Pose, and it was a character on Pose. I can't remember her name, but she had went and got the surgery. And, like, when she had went back to mess with, like, one of her old dudes, he was mad as about he wanted her to keep the penis.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

So I.

[Lex P]

That's why I say he didn't give us. Cuz we don't know if he or not.

[Draya Nicole]

Right. But, I mean, he. He said he transitioned, so I assume

[Lex P]

no, because some people transition. They still have their heart.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, you so. I don't know. I feel like. Yeah, just have a conversation.

[Lex P]

Yeah. It doesn't hurt. But I think spinning the block is not a good idea.

[Deontay Kyle]

I think anytime that you engage in a situation, honesty, honestly and lovingly, then you gotta live whatever the results is. If bro not fucking with it, he just not fucking with it.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Deontay Kyle]

And at least you know, if he is. Shit, I mean, it's still the same nigga you left.

[Lex P]

Exactly.

[Draya Nicole]

So ain't she the essence?

[Deontay Kyle]

The essence of people really don't change. You know, make sure you. You might gain a new perspective on a few things, but who you is at your core is who you is gonna be who you is.

[Lex P]

And I used to spin the block all the time, but now I'm no longer. I'm never spinning the block again. Like, if we're done, we're done. I agree.

[Draya Nicole]

You know, but this has been such a fun episode.

[Lex P]

It has.

[Draya Nicole]

So Deontay, tell everybody where they can find you. And also talk a little bit about your tour. Cause you were on your tour First Cousin tour with Big Cat.

[Deontay Kyle]

Yeah, me and Big Kat on first Cousin tour. Let me get these dates. You know what I mean? But you can follow me on our social mediante, Cal. Or you can follow the podcast, Grizzly ned's podcast on YouTube. Oh, shit, man. Shout out to the managers. You know what I'm saying? Just airdrop that bit right, Tibby, we're going. Raleigh, North Carolina, March 22nd. Birmingham, Alabama, April 1st. Jacksonville, Florida, April 7th. Charlotte, North Carolina, April 14th. And then Nashville, Tennessee on April 28th. All tickets are available on deontaykyle.com.

[Lex P]

congratulations.

[Deontay Kyle]

Heck yeah, man. That gonna be love. Our our live show hit a little different too.

[Lex P]

We be for real having a good time.

[Deontay Kyle]

Heck yeah. We'll be turning up. We're gonna do the Knowledge always. But we're gonna have a good time.

[Lex P]

Good. Well, thank you so much for sitting with us.

[Draya Nicole]

An amazing episode, y'.

[Lex P]

All. Make sure y' all go follow him on everything. Y' all get y' all lips together. Go to muse beautycollection.com. get your lippies, your lashes together, all the blushes and things like that. Make sure y' all tune in to Love Lexp Every Monday at 10am Anything else we missing?

[Draya Nicole]

Bye.

[Lex P]

All

[Deontay Kyle]

you niggas better is it asap? Asap. A A A ASA P as long

[Draya Nicole]

intro

[Lex P]

Just say as this bad one

[Deontay Kyle]

the songs had to be five minutes. I'm on the grind grand hustle got

[Draya Nicole]

the mind and the muscle 50 carats in the crown just to shine on

[Deontay Kyle]

you sucker still talk the Glock F for the haters football basing if a try to play me I'mma bus them security pretty reaching for my jewelry get your pot quick still full of hot fresh out the butt tip hop in

[Lex P]

the drop seat in the pen giving

[Deontay Kyle]

stock tips stock tip not tip so your baby mama jocks you don't want no problem I do not slip and wheel at the car trip with the crown right up under there Stones with

[Draya Nicole]

the platinum all up under there.

[Lex P]

Blow them up the mouth asap as

[Deontay Kyle]

anybody who running ag that they gonna

[Draya Nicole]

save me asap

[Deontay Kyle]

hating on pse gear

[Lex P]

strain ASAP me try to play me

[Draya Nicole]

I'mma blow them off the map as

[Deontay Kyle]

I know a lot of rappers don't like me but they won't fight me why they won't indict me.

[Lex P]

Deontay.com period.

[Deontay Kyle]

No you really got video vixen on you was like

[Lex P]

I know I missed

[Draya Nicole]

my mark I missed my era VIP

[Lex P]

still come alive from the VIP I'll say it 20 times my fist so

[Deontay Kyle]

rocky and my wrist so icy might be thrown off my rocker just slightly feisty flaming hot tip of dawny nightmare I'm only gonna on as you find the is and one politely that's all that's that's what I had to say deontay.com for all the tour tickets deontay.com on all social media and GR next podcast on YouTube follow me right now subscribe turn on the notification bell all that good.

[Draya Nicole]

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