Stay Out The Business ft. Lady London

Summary

Pour Minds Podcast – “Stay Out The Business ft. Lady London”

Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: Lex P and Dre Nicole
Guest: Lady London (rapper, songwriter, actress, poet)
Podcast Network: The Black Effect | iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This lively and candid episode features Bronx/New Jersey-raised rapper, poet, and scholar Lady London joining Lex P and Dre Nicole for a wine-fueled deep-dive into music, womanhood, social media scrutiny, and the messy business of both men and women. The hosts and Lady London swap stories and laughter as they address hot topics in female hip hop, industry double standards, and the power of unapologetic self-presentation, all while keeping the signature Pour Minds mix of humor and realness. Lady London also opens up about her roots, her highly anticipated Tubi documentary, balancing artistry with privacy, and the pressures of being a woman in both academia and the rap world.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lady London’s Background: Scholar to Star

[04:32–07:49]

• Early Life & Education: Grew up between New York and Jersey in a Caribbean household, surrounded by 90s hip hop ("the mecca of hip hop at its peak"). Lady London stood out as an academically gifted child, attending Howard University, double majoring in Sports Medicine and Chemistry, then attending USC Keck for Global Medicine.
• Transition to Music: She originally wrote poetry and went viral online, which led to artists and producers reaching out. Transitioned from poetry to rapping in just three months, learning the technical aspects of the art form herself.
• Quote:
  "My mom never censored music around me...I was really into school, but I had like, behavioral issues." — Lady London [04:43]

2. How Education Shaped Her Lyricism

[07:17–07:49]

• The trio discusses how Lady London's extensive vocabulary, shaped by a Caribbean upbringing and rigorous education, gave her a unique edge.
• Quote:
  "My vocabulary is pretty intense, and I think it does trickle into my music for sure." — Lady London [07:38]

3. Documentary: “Always Lady London” (Tubi, Oct 10)

[07:57–10:22]

• Lady London’s upcoming docuseries details the process of recording her debut album—a balancing act between sacrifice and reward, with behind-the-scenes moments in Houston, NYC, and LA.
• She underscores the tension between public curiosity and her strong sense of privacy.
• Quote:
  "I'm so private, I don't even want people to know I went to Target yesterday...but people want to know everything." — Lady London [07:57]
• Lex draws parallels to the MTV “True Life” days, celebrating longform documentary as a way for artists to shape their own narrative.

4. Balancing Message & “Pop That Ass” Energy In Hip Hop

[11:33–13:30]

• Lex asks how Lady London reconciles her message-driven art with the prevailing “twerk music” wave.
• Lady London reveals her multidimensionality—that she enjoys a good party anthem as much as anyone, but is boxed in by public perception as solely poetic or “deep.”
• Calls for hip hop and R&B to reclaim balance and inclusivity, so both club bangers and soul-baring tracks can co-exist.
• Quote:
  "I just wish music right now was all inclusive...somebody needs healing, somebody needs to twerk." — Lady London [12:18]

5. Female Unity & Competition in Hip Hop

[13:34–15:39]

• Lady London says she’s largely had positive experiences with other women in the music industry but acknowledges not everyone is as lucky.
• She calls for “unity amongst diversity” and warns against people—particularly women in rap—getting into conflicts that don't involve them.
• She also makes a pointed case for minding one's own business for peace of mind.
• Quote:
  "Anybody who has an issue with me is more of an issue with yourself. Because I don't be in the mix of nothing." — Lady London [14:47]

6. Celebrity Privacy in the Age of Social Media

[15:05–16:49]

• Lady London identifies as “private, not secretive,” citing Rihanna as a model for boundary-setting.
• Both hosts advocate for returning to a time when artists weren’t expected to share every thought online, warning overexposure breeds misunderstanding and unlikability.

7. Online Negativity & Not Trying to Please Everyone

[17:09–19:44]

• The women share stories about negative comments, TikTok shade, and unnecessary internet attacks. Lex laughs off being called “corny” online, and Lady London reminds everyone that real life is bigger than troll opinions: "That's some sweaty-handed dude in a basement."
• Lady London reflects on her own viral moments and how public mimicry, even if mocking, is actually a form of flattery.

8. Poor Decisions Segment

[20:05–31:00]

• Lex’s “poor decision” of the week: Messing up her garage with spilled paint.
• Lady London’s poor decision: Attempting a three-day water fast, resulting in extreme hunger and anger.
• Dre Nicole’s poor decision: Eating at a sketchy buffet, which ended in food poisoning.
• This lighthearted, candid segment showcases their humor and relatability.

9. Women in Hip Hop: Are Artists Really All the Same?

[32:57–35:37]

• The group unpacks Jermaine Dupri’s controversial statement that all female rappers are the same.
• Lady London rebuts: There’s diversity in female rap, but mainstream visibility is selective. Calls for more inclusion, likening today’s scene to an era that could hold Lauryn Hill, Lil’ Kim, and Foxy Brown all at once.
• Quote:
  “Men...speak carelessly without anybody asking them. Unsolicited. If you gonna say it about women, say the same thing about men.” — Lady London [33:39 & 35:27]

10. Pretty Privilege and Industry Bias

[35:41–37:43]

• After Sweetie’s remarks about “pretty punishment,” Lady London says she’s yet to benefit from “pretty privilege” and that nothing has been handed to her:
  "If I got any type of pretty privilege, it ain't kicking in yet." — Lady London [36:13]
• She avoids playing into sexualized expectations and insists on staying in her own creative lane.

11. Industry Pressure to “Dumb Down” Lyrics

[37:58–38:59]

• Lady London details pressure from industry types to “dumb down” her lyrical content, sharing she tried to write “Cat in the Hat” records, but it couldn’t stick.
• She calls out executives giving advice for lanes they’ve never themselves walked.

12. Staying Out of Other People’s Business: The Nicki vs. Cardi Beef

[39:47–41:31]

• Lady London intentionally avoids public rap beefs and “millionaire arguments,” focusing instead on her own progress and “the three Bs: the bank, the booth, and the Bible study.”
• Quote:
  “People are jumping into millionaire conversations and my grandmother’s water heater has broken in the hood.” — Lady London [40:56]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

On Men Being Messy (Messier Than Women?)

• [42:05–47:08 | Recurring Throughout]

• Lady London and the hosts roast the myth that only women gossip, with Lex coining the term “bossy boys” for mess-ready men.

• "Some of the hottest tea that I have ever gotten in my life came from a man." — Lady London [42:58]
  "Bossing—gossip for boys." — Lex P [42:53]
  "If you a real gossiper, you gotta keep it even for all genders." — Lex P [44:47]

• Both call out male podcasters and social media personalities who have smoke for women but not for men.

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On Modern Dating and Deal-breakers

[80:00–83:33]

• Listener question: Is it too strict to bail on a potential partner after seeing just one red flag in the first month?
• Lady London and the hosts agree: Let people show you their true selves, but don’t be so strict you block your own blessings.
• "All that strict will end up having you alone. Make sure it's not all surface level—you probably could get past 20% that don't compare to a good 80%.” — Lady London [81:12]

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On Good Sex: Rich Men vs. Broke Men

[66:00–71:01]

• The trio debates whether rich men are actually better in bed or if the “lifestyle” just clouds judgment.
• "The best dick of your life gonna come from a nigga that don't got no job...air mattress on the floor, halfway deflated." — Lady London [66:52]
  "Money makes him handsome. Money makes his dick good." — Lex P [67:19]

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Fun Segments

“Poor Decisions”

[20:05–31:00]

• The hosts and guest share weekly mishaps, from home improvement fails to botched juice cleanses and buffet regrets.

“The Bed” & “Bop of the Week”

[63:49–78:43]

• Discussing feminine hygiene products, best sex stories, and song recommendations (including Dexter Daps, E.J. Jones' “Gas Station Love,” and Charity's "Warm and Soft").
• "Post-nut clarity for a rich man is great. But post-nut clarity when fucking with a broke man...you’re just laying there looking at the ceiling—I'm not doing this again." — Lady London & Lex P [68:26]

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Notable Song Recommendations (“Bop of the Week”)

[73:21–78:36]

• Lex P: E.J. Jones – “Gas Station Love”
• Dre Nicole: Dexter Daps – “RBG (Real Bad Gal)” ft. Stalk Ashley
• Lady London: Charity – “Warm and Soft” (drops October 25)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro & Lady London’s Early Life: 04:32–07:49
• Impact of Education on Lyrics: 07:17–07:49
• Documentary Process: 07:57–10:22
• Hip Hop’s Tone & “Message” Artists: 11:33–13:30
• Female Unity in Rap: 13:34–15:39
• Privacy vs. Social Media Exposure: 15:05–16:49
• Online Negativity & Not Seeking Approval: 17:09–19:44
• Poor Decisions Segment: 20:05–31:00
• Mainstream Female Rapper Critique: 32:57–35:37
• Pretty Privilege & Looks vs. Lyrics: 35:41–38:59
• Nicki/Cardi, industry beefs, staying out of business: 39:47–41:31
• Men Are Messy/Bossy Boys Segment: 42:05–47:08
• Dating Boundaries Q&A: 80:00–83:33
• Rich Men vs. Broke Men Sex Debate: 66:00–71:01
• Bop of the Week: 73:21–78:36

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Closing & Where to Find Lady London

[83:47–84:31]

• On all socials: @LadyLondon
• “Always Lady London” on Tubi (three-part docuseries)
• Upcoming debut album (2026)

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Tone & Language

The conversation is bold, humorous, and direct—often blending serious cultural criticism with jokes, playful shade, and sisterly warmth. Think: group chat energy, seasoned with the realities of being women in the public eye.

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Final Memorable Moment

Outro: Group Karaoke [85:31–87:43]
The episode closes with all three breaking into a raucous, feel-good rendition of Mariah Carey’s “Always Be My Baby,” laughter and slightly off-key harmonies included.

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Listen if you love:
Authentic female friendship, behind-the-scenes music industry insight, fierce honesty about social media, and unapologetic takes on love, sex, and hip hop.

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Highlight Quote:
"I’m about my money. I’ll be at the bank, the booth, and the Bible study. I don’t know nothing about what happens on blogs. That ain’t the beat that I look at – the three B’s. That’s it. That’s all." — Lady London [41:31]

Transcript

[Lady London]

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[Lex P]

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[Lady London]

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[Lex P]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[Lex P]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[Lady London]

Are men messier than women? Messy boots. Yeah, messy down messy. The soccer players messy is. You know, they say who is the messiest? You know, it's probably ain't it. Men are so messy and like they don't want to live in it. They don't look at it as gossiping. I remember I told somebody I was friends with recently, I was like, you gossiping? And he was like, I don't gossip. I'm a man. So I mean, maybe we can.

[Lex P]

I know who said that by the way you said it. I know who said that by the way you said it.

[Lady London]

It's like, maybe we should name it something else. Would that make you comfortable? But you're definitely gossiping.

[Lex P]

Maybe it should be bossing. I got the girls. It's gossip for girls.

[Lady London]

Now you bossing. Boy, how you bossing on my phone? I don't know. I think that is just crazy as hell. Some of the hottest tea that I have ever gotten in my life came from a man.

[Lex P]

The man. The men be having it.

[Lady London]

They do the rundown, too. They'll tell you from top to bottom, man. Let me tell you how. And you be tuned into what?

[Lex P]

What?

[Lady London]

And don't let it be your man. He real comfortable. Real Teddy. Oh.

[Lex P]

What'S up, y'?

[Lady London]

All?

[Lex P]

It's your girl Lex P. And it's.

[Lady London]

Your girl Dre Nicole.

[Lex P]

And you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Minds, where a drunk.

[Lady London]

Mind speaks sober thought.

[Lex P]

We got a guest today. We got a guest today. Okay, y', all, y' all know we love to read the comments. And y' all know we love when we have the girls on. Okay, so today we have rapper, songwriter, actress, poet, and a college scholar, if you will. We got Lady London in the building. Hey, y', all, thank you so much for joining us.

[Lady London]

Thank y' all for having me. Girl, you know, we have a time. We are. And you look great. You look so good. Everybody looks so good.

[Lex P]

The fashion is tea.

[Lady London]

It is. Thank you. Thank God.

[Lex P]

So talk about, you know, we gonna start from the beginning. Okay. So talk about your life, like, growing up and how it's influenced you as an adult and how you got into music and all that stuff.

[Lady London]

Wow. Okay. So I grew up between New York and Jersey in the greater New York City metropolitan area. So the center and the mecca of hip hop in the 90s at its peak. So just around music, just always around hip hop music. Like, my mom never censored no music around me. Like, we listened to the explicit version. Same, you know, like, just girl, ghetto, just a mess. But I grew up really, really into my studies. I was really into school. School came really natural to me. But I had, like, behavioral issues.

[Lex P]

You was bad.

[Lady London]

Yeah, I was growing up. Hey, twins. Hey, twins.

[Lex P]

You don't give me bad vibes.

[Lady London]

I know. I've literally. I've been baptized.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Lady London]

Sometime sometimes I thought, I gotta go back under, because I don't know if it took all the way. Did me? Yes. But, yeah, I really liked school, though, like, the academic portion of it. So I just always wanted to get into medicine and science and things like that. So I ended up doing. Going to Howard. I studied medical sciences at Howard, Double major in sports, medicine, and chemistry.

[Lex P]

Wow.

[Lady London]

Graduated top of my class at Howard. Went to usc Keck School of Medicine for Global Medicine. Wanted to do some administrative stuff before going to med school. And I was always writing along the way, writing poetry. Never really rapping, but just writing poetry. I posted a video doing poetry online in 2018, and it, like, went super viral at the time. You know, this is like back when it wasn't normal to have 10 million views, right?

[Lex P]

Like, people forget that.

[Lady London]

Yeah, we had a time before they even calculated views or it even showed up in the algorithm. So it was like 8.7 million views. It was all over every platform. Producers, artists started reaching out. Like, my idols was reaching out type shit. And, yeah, I just started rapping from there. I taught myself how to rap in, like, three months. Wow. So you had never even thought about it before? No. And poetry is so different from rap. Like, you actually have to count the syllables that you, you know, like, it don't fit. It don't flow or feel at all the same way.

[Lex P]

And look, I'm not a deep person. I don't be understanding poetry all the time. They be like, in the brown skin and the blue wave, everybody be snapping.

[Lady London]

Like, yes, I love the snaps.

[Lex P]

I love the snaps, but it's very deep. So do you feel like a lot of your vocabulary? Because, you know, to say you learn to rap in three months, people consider you a lyricist. They like, when you listen to Lady London, it gets deep. You really have to understand what she's talking about. So do you feel like having your extensive background in education and being so educated, that helped you?

[Lady London]

Oh, yeah, definitely. It's. It's a big thing. I grew up in a Caribbean household too, so, like, it was big for us to, like. Our vocabulary is extremely important. Our education is important. If you don't know a word, my grandmother used to, like, go look it up like you couldn't you. My mom used to make me read the dictionary every Saturday, highlight the words I didn't know.

[Lex P]

Oh, Lord.

[Lady London]

Yeah. Like, my vocabulary is pretty intense, and I think it does trickle into my music for sure. Yeah.

[Lex P]

Dre won't understand. I won't. I ain't gonna know.

[Lady London]

Yeah, they say that about me on the show, too. They be like, your vocabulary is so extensive.

[Lex P]

Not the Ti Twins, right? Girl, I know that's right.

[Lady London]

You are too big. For real twins.

[Lex P]

For real.

[Lady London]

So I definitely wanted to talk a little bit about your documentary, your three part documentary that's about to come out on October 10th on Tubi. Always. Lady Lundy, could you tell us about it. So it is a docu series that follows my journey of making my first album. So it's. It was super invasive. You know, if I can, if I could be transparent about the filming process. It's like, I'm so private, I don't even want people to know I went to Target yesterday. Like, I don't. I'm just, yeah, let's keep it on a hush, you know? But it was like they were waking up with me going to, like going to the store and going to the studio and moving around with me. And it was like months of that, like, tracking me. And I, I went to. I did a writing camp in Houston where we recorded my whole album, damn near. I recorded in New York, I recorded in la, and they were flying with me to go, you know, do all of that. So it basically recaps the process, the. The nuances that go into making an album, because making an album is equally as sacrificial as it is rewarding. Like, you got days where it's like, oh, I'm so inspired. I know exactly what I want it to sound like. And then it stays like, I don't even know what I want to call it. Right. I don't know nothing. So it follows, it's a three part episode, a three part series that comes out all at once on October 10th. And it's like probably an hour or 53 minutes to an hour each episode. Okay.

[Lex P]

And I ain't got nothing that's exciting.

[Lady London]

Yeah, me too. I can't wait to watch it. Yeah.

[Lex P]

But I also feel like that's so good for you because I feel like obviously people love you and they connect with you, but unfortunately we are in a time where people want to know you. So I think this is a good thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, like you said, it's sacrificial. You got to give up a little bit of the privacy because the girls want to know what you ate for breakfast. People are interested in stuff like that, as crazy as it might sound. But I think that it's good to do like more of a. Like a documentary so you can kind of control, you know, what's being said, what's being done. And it's not necessarily like tik tok and you say something wrong and then you wake up the next day and you getting canceled. You know what I'm saying? So I like, I think we need to go back to documentaries. Y' all remember when, like, True Life was a thing on mtv?

[Lady London]

Oh, yeah.

[Lex P]

I used to Love. True life, you know, I was crazy.

[Lady London]

True life was crazy.

[Lex P]

Making the video situation. Yeah. Like, they used to have. Making the video. They used to go behind the scenes of, like, seeing somebody in their process. So I think, like, this is going to be really interesting for, you know, us to see a side of you that, you know, that we haven't necessarily seen before.

[Lady London]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

So do you miss, like, do you feel like sometimes, like. Because I know being an entrepreneur and working for yourself is not easy, so do you sometimes feel like, damn, I should have stayed in sports medicine and taking that route, you know what I'm saying?

[Lady London]

Sometimes, like, it's one part of me that feels like I gave up 24. I gave up nine to five to work 24. Seven. Yeah, right. But I think this was like, my calling. Weirdly enough. Like, I feel like, you can't. I tried to quit. I quit rap every day. Every day. I was like, no, I'm not doing it no more. I'm need to go just clock in somewhere. It's just not it. I need to fall back on my education. Maybe I need to go back to school and finish up what I wanted to do. But I don't think I have a message to deliver here. And I don't know if this is the medium, you know, that's what I always question is, like, am I doing it in the right way? But I feel like I am a vessel to deliver a message. I don't know where, how, but no, I don't. I don't have no regrets as far as, like, I should have stayed here. I should have did that. I think I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be. But I'm in a season right now where I really want to, like, stop talking and listen. Like, really listen. And be careful what I'm listening to too. So that's just basically where I am.

[Lex P]

How do you feel, though? Because now, and we're gonna get to this in a little more depth later, how do you feel now? Because you keep saying, like, I have a message to give. And nowadays, like, people are trying to twerk and pop that ass.

[Lady London]

I know.

[Lex P]

So how is it being like, I have a message to send to people? Like, girl, we trying to shake some ass. So how do you find that balance?

[Lady London]

You know what's crazy is I think a lot of people may look at me and be like, you not into that, but I love that shit. But you be confident, like, inside my house, like, you. But, like, that's my shit. I think people just. They be trying to box me into this person that's, like, so poetic and so, like, girl, I am ghetto as fuck. Like, it's things that, you know, like, I'm a key. I'm a good time and all the things.

[Lex P]

It's just.

[Lady London]

I want it to be, like, full dimensional. I just wish that music right now was just all inclusive. Yeah. Like, if we could have a little bit of everybody coming. Cause everybody needs to be here. Yeah. Like, we want.

[Lex P]

We need to pop out.

[Lady London]

What the fuck are we gonna listen to at the club?

[Lex P]

You know what I'm saying? I gots to pop it.

[Lady London]

I gotta snap and potato chip. Yeah. Like, we're not gonna listen to it at the club. Right. But we do need it somewhere. Somebody needs healing. Yeah. I mean, at the end of the day, you come home and have some off Saturday, right? We still gonna never would have made it Sunday morning. We just need the balance.

[Lex P]

That's why I need that. Cause I'm gonna cry every time, but.

[Lady London]

I'm a twerk while I'm crying. We're just not addressing it enough. We're not addressing pain. We're not addressing, you know, vulnerability, transparency, heartbreak, or happiness. Like, I'm in a chapter, like, where as an artist, I never think to write when I'm not in pain. I always, like, if I'm happy, I don't think to just write because I'm happy. I'm trying to live in a moment, right. I'm over here with a happy relationship. Great. But it's like every time I'm sad or depressed or I have a breakup or whatever, now I'm like, pin the pad. I think we just got to figure.

[Lex P]

Out how to, you know, right through.

[Lady London]

All the stuff, all the things, twerk a little bit, throw some ass, then go back to Jesus and then, you.

[Lex P]

Know, all the things we love, a good balance. So go ahead. Sorry.

[Lady London]

So I do want to ask you, like, how do you feel about unity and female hip hop right now? Like, do you feel like. Like, what has been your experience with it? Do you feel like people are, like, gravitate, gravitating towards you and super nice and nurturing? Or do you feel like. Not really. I've had a great experience so far, but I also, like, I understand it's not the same for everybody. I believe in unity amongst diversity, period. That's just. Again, not to get preachy, but that's biblical. Like, you know, eyes, ears, nose all play a part in the body as a whole. So I think everybody is supposed to be. I think it's more unity amongst diversity that it should be. But I haven't had no problems with no. Nobody in the industry. But I can see how people do have problems with each other. And I know that everybody is not meant to get along either. Right. Like, it just is what it is. We have difference of opinions. I think a lot of people speak on what doesn't have to do with them, and I think that's how it becomes bad within. You know, women specifically, and female rap. People jump into things that just. All right. You know, for them. Yeah. It's just not me. I'm so out the way that I have. Anybody who has an issue with me is more of an issue with yourself. Because I don't be in the mix of nothing.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Lady London]

That. That would require that. So I've had good camaraderie.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Lady London]

For the most part, like, I haven't had no. No issues. Do you ever feel like, as your career continues to grow, do you feel like you'll feel the pressure to be more in the mix, or you feel like you just gonna still always be out the way type of person?

[Lex P]

Girl.

[Lady London]

Thank you. I think I'm always gonna be me. I just. I think that in general. But, like, when I think about my level of privacy is more. It's more private and less secretive. It's more like Rihanna. Like, we know what we know when, whatever she decides to give us, but. Right. We still feel like we know her a little bit because she leaves it in the music, she leaves it in the pictures. She leaves it in the, like, small nuances of who she is. I don't feel like she does too much talking. Like, you can't find that many Rihanna interviews. Right. You can't. That's true.

[Lex P]

But I feel like that's when we need to bring that type of celebrity back.

[Lady London]

Back.

[Lex P]

Cause sometimes I be knowing. Like I said, it's good that we're getting to know you, but on your terms. Cause I don't need to know too much about people. Like, sometimes it's like. And I'm not a person that's like, oh, shut up and dribble. I don't want to hear your political opinions on things. But I do feel like sometimes we crossed that line of knowing too much about people and their opinions on things and this and that. And that's where things get misconstrued. People tend to be a little unlikable, you know? Cause sometimes you see an interview with somebody you like.

[Lady London]

Ooh, yeah. I mean, and I just think the day and age that we're in right now with social media. A lot of the time, people always feel the need to take up for themselves when it comes to a lot of stuff that comes out about them on the Internet. And then sometimes in turn it does the opposite. Like, they be thinking, oh, I'm taking up for myself. People don't understand where I'm coming from. And then it ends up actually making them less likable. Yeah, Just more. Just less is more like, you know, leaving it Kind of like, maybe it's true, maybe it's not. Like, I don't know, believe the headlines or don't. I really don't care. Right.

[Lex P]

That's why I need to shut the hell up. I address everything.

[Lady London]

Thank you. I used to be like that when we were younger, like when we first started the podcast. But now I'm the same way. Like, I be like, whatever. I just be blocking. Y' all have, like, adverse comments in the comment section, too. Yes, girl. People be mean as hell and they always trying to put us each other. It's very strange.

[Lex P]

I have to tell y' all story. I wasn't going to tell it, but I'm going to go ahead and tell it because we having a girl's moment. I was scrolling TikTok yesterday, and this guy made a video. He was like, you know, we talk about niggas being corny and stuff, but we don't talk about women being corny enough. Like, it's just giving tomato boo. So in the comments, everybody's like, naming people who they think is corny and stuff and going off, and I'm just scrolling. Like, somebody said, lex P from Poor Minds, and he got 100 likes. I said, wait a goddamn minute, bitch.

[Lady London]

Now why the hell am I in?

[Lex P]

I said, nah. I caught astray and I called. I said, nah. I caught a straight, but I was laughing.

[Lady London]

No. Yeah.

[Lex P]

And then, like, people started commenting and laughing on it, but I was, like, thinking about it, but I'm like, you're gonna be corny to somebody or to anybody or somebody's not gonna like you. But it's like, you can't get mad. And I almost caught myself, like, about to make a video to respond, but I'm like, you know what? Sometimes I am corny, but that's okay because I'm me. And I think.

[Lady London]

And I be thinking, you funny. I be cracking up.

[Lex P]

We be having a key, a good key, a ball. But I think that we are stuck in this society, too, that people are trying hard to be liked by everybody. Everybody wants to Be the cool girl everybody wants to be. And it's just like, that's not possible. You know what I'm saying?

[Lady London]

Is it possible you'll find yourself miserable trying to do it? Yeah. And I always think when I see them negative comments, my stylist is like, this is somebody in somebody's basement. Yup. Just type in mad cat, sweaty hands. That's what I picture. I be like, you know, I don't know. You know, why you mad and sweaty hands. That gets me through the grave. Like, it's probably a little dirty little man typing this little nutty in the basement like you said. But that's crazy to me that you even get negative comments like that.

[Lex P]

That's good dollars, too.

[Lady London]

You know, it's like they grasp at anything. Like you said. Like we was talking earlier, she was putting lotion on, and she was like, girl. Cause they be on me. Like, if anything is out of place, it's different. It's a problem. That's how they do with me. I mean, obviously, the main thing is my voice always is always like the top tier, disrespect, whatever. And I'm like, what the fuck do y' all want from me? They must sound like pop smoke.

[Lex P]

I was about to say, but I love your voice.

[Lady London]

Thank you.

[Lex P]

I was about to say that we had a clip that went viral. You was like, doing whatever. Oh, yeah, I did.

[Lady London]

It was so funny because everybody was tagging me and I said. Because that really was the way it came. I was never. It's so funny. It's so many people that did it. And people was like, oh, they're trying to be funny. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, no, that's how I said it. I love dealing with a. Yeah, that's how I study. But it was like.

[Lex P]

That's why I said it.

[Lady London]

Thank you. And you had everybody saying that. For a year straight. For a year straight. Thank you. A tom.

[Lex P]

I mean, that's. This song was so. I remember a girl slugged me with that song. What she said. Cause you said, shawty lurking on my page better watch. And she paused. Cause we was dealing with the same nigga at the time. Yeah, bitch, I'm watching you the fuck.

[Lady London]

Cause this my bdb, bitch. This my real nigga.

[Lex P]

I was going through a hard time. I was going through a hard time.

[Lady London]

Okay, well.

[Lex P]

And I was watching. I was lurking. I was. I said, you got me. She ate me up with that one. She ate me up. Okay, so before we move on. Cause I do wanna touch on the women in hip hop stuff that you have brought up in a second. But y' all know this episod is sponsored by our good friends at Taylor Port. Y' all know we got support up per usual. Thank you. So we have a segment called Poor Decisions where we talk about something that you did maybe in the past week or just ever that you felt like was like a bad decision. It doesn't have to be anything major. Maybe something small that you feel like, you know what? Maybe I shouldn't have done that. My poor decision this week is. I'll start, please. And y' all know it's always something with my house. Cause I be going through it in my home renovations, guys. So I have just. My garage is just like my mess place. Like when I moved my lights and take. I just store everything in my garage. And y' all know me, I'm a DIY girly. I got paint in there. I got everything in there. And, like, I was just so aggravated with. I just have a lot of junk and boxes in my house. And I ran. I was just not. You know how you just get flustered and you running around. I took my little lamp and I, like, just threw it in my garage and it knocked over a whole tub of paint. Now I got black paint all over my garage. But that's all right because I was planning on getting the floors done anyway.

[Lady London]

Okay. Now I have to.

[Lex P]

Now I have to, like. And my whole garage just smells like paint, which I don't mind. I like a little.

[Lady London]

Loosen up for.

[Lex P]

The day, you know?

[Lady London]

Do you park your car in the garage?

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Lady London]

Well, thank God your car wasn't in there, though.

[Lex P]

Girl, fuck that car. That raggedy piece of shit. Girl, you know, I don't give a damn about my car. I'm worried about my car.

[Lady London]

But imagine if it was in there, though, in that house.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Yeah, you right.

[Lady London]

So thank God he would go in the little leopard.

[Lex P]

But yeah, there's things all over my garage. But, you know, we get through and we're just blessed that we have a roof over our head. But that's my poor decision of the week. Just sometimes I need to slow down and calm down and look on the bright side. Okay, what's yalls poor decision? What's something you want me to.

[Lady London]

Yeah, go ahead, girl. I'm still trying to think every. I feel like I don't make that many good decisions, to be honest. I'm trying to narrow mind you, trying.

[Lex P]

To narrow it down.

[Lady London]

Trying to figure out, okay, let me think. What is a poor decision that I've made within the last week. I definitely ended up doing a three day water fast. Mm.

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[Lex P]

All I know is what I've been.

[Lady London]

Told and that to Half Truth is a whole lie.

[Podcast Narrator]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Lady London]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Podcast Narrator]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Lex P]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Podcast Narrator]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Lex P]

I did not know her and I.

[Lady London]

Did not kill her or rape or.

[Podcast Narrator]

Burn or any of that other stuff.

[Lady London]

That y' all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Podcast Narrator]

From Lava For Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Lex P]

America, y' all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Podcast Narrator]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts. I'm Hunter, host of Hunting for Answers on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Join me every weekday as I share bit stories of missing and murdered Black women and girls in America. There are several ways we can all do better at protecting black women. My contribution is shining a light on our missing sisters and amplifying their disregarded stories. Stories like Tameka Anderson. As she drove toward Galvez, she was in contact with several people talking on the phone as she made her way to what should have been a routine transaction. But Tameka never bought the car and she never returned home that day. One podcast, one mission. Save our girls. Join the search as we explore the chilling cases of missing and murdered black women and girls. Listen to Hunting for Answers every weekday on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to.

[Lady London]

Track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin.

[Podcast Narrator]

Into New York from Asia.

[Lex P]

We had 30 agents ready to go.

[Lady London]

With shotguns and rifles and you name it.

[Podcast Narrator]

But what they find is not what they expected.

[Lex P]

Basically your stay at home moms were.

[Lady London]

Picking up these large amounts of heroin.

[Lex P]

They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years.

[Lady London]

Caught between a federal investigation and the.

[Podcast Narrator]

Violent gang who recruited them, the women.

[Lady London]

Must decide who they're willing to protect.

[Podcast Narrator]

And who they dare to betray.

[Lex P]

Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light.

[Lady London]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcasts. Like last week or like it was a juice fest and I don't know why I decided to do that.

[Lex P]

You feel like it was a poor decision?

[Lady London]

Yes, because I was angry as fuck all three days and I feel like I was being mean to people because I was pissed off because I was hungry and I'll never do that shit again. And I think that it's amazing when people do these long fasts, but I really don't understand how people do it. Like I just got to lose my weight, the freeway, I just got to work out and diet. Well, not diet, but eat clean and just lose the weight. Like I cannot do fast. It just makes me so angry. I feel like I'm a whole different person.

[Lex P]

So you're not doing it ever again?

[Lady London]

Maybe eventually in the future I'll try cuz I really want to do a seven day water fast cuz they say it resets your whole system.

[Lex P]

This is my water right here, so.

[Lady London]

I really do wanna try that. But I just, I don't know, maybe it's mind over matter but for now, it was a bad decision. Girl, next time, go through the nigga phone. I don't know why you should. I don't.

[Lex P]

Just.

[Lady London]

Just. You wanna jumpstart to a diet, go through the phone, lose at least, you know, 13, 15 pounds. And see, I done get yourself before, too. No appetite for the day, I'm telling you.

[Lex P]

All right, you narrowed it down. What you got?

[Lady London]

Honestly, I was trying to think of something, you know, but let's just start with yesterday. Me and my friend go to this buffet out here. I haven't been to a buffet in years. We were just like, awesome, let's go to a buffet type thing. And she was like, just eat this one portion of the buffet. I don't. I don't suggest you try the buffet. Okay, My cool. So she's like, I only eat this here. So I go eat whatever she eats. And then. Oh, my gosh. Every. I start looking around like, this don't look too bad. You know, whatever. So I make a couple of. On a plate. I did not make it back to my hotel, y', all, before I was throwing up everywhere.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God.

[Lady London]

Girl was terrible coming out of both ends. Terrible.

[Lex P]

But I know you were skinny afterwards.

[Lady London]

Lost a few pounds, but. Oh, Dimpree, thank you.

[Lex P]

I will say this, though. I cannot do buffets just because. More so of, like, the consumers of people. You don't know. People be washing their hands and this and that and what people be doing. People be picking up stuff, setting it back down. Don't be using the tongs.

[Lady London]

No, you right.

[Lex P]

You know what I'm saying? So. But at least you tried it. You tried to be adventurous.

[Lady London]

So it was like one of them buffet. That's what I'm saying. Back in the day, it was like such a thing for us, remember? Cause when we. I don't know about y'. All. I had a big family. We used to go. And everybody, everybody. You gotta play like you 7 years old, but you really 12. You know what I'm saying? Like those.

[Lex P]

I used to love a Goo Goo Gaga. I'm young.

[Lady London]

You know, as a kid, you telling yourself, too.

[Lex P]

You're like, Mom, I'm 12.

[Lady London]

Are you five? You five? She just tall.

[Lex P]

Yes. I think the Chinese buffets were a thing. Used to have Ryan's in the south.

[Lady London]

Like, especially in Houston. The Chinese buffets, we have them on every corner.

[Lex P]

Yeah, they're. They're coming out here a lot. A little lot. Was it. Was it like a Chinese buffet?

[Lady London]

Yeah, it was like a. Like a. Yeah, like more Of a hibachi kind of situation. Kimon Chong. Yeah, one of them.

[Lex P]

Be careful. You got to be careful.

[Lady London]

And Cece's pizza used to be good. So that was a little buffet. Little pizza buffet, girl. Now all we could do is the roof. Chris is in the bug. I guess our palace is not the same.

[Lex P]

Oh, yeah, they definitely not the same. You can't eat the same things that we did when we were children.

[Lady London]

But like you said, it's a sanitation thing too. Like with the buffets. That I think is something we didn't think about when we were younger. I swear the people was switching out the plan. So I was like, oh, this the new joint?

[Lex P]

This the new.

[Lady London]

You know, in my head I'm like, this just came from the back, child. I'm all over the place. Terrible.

[Lex P]

She said she feel better today.

[Lady London]

I feel great. But I was worried last night. Cause they was texting me like, you ready for the day tomorrow?

[Lex P]

I'm like, oh, no, girl. And you know, these bathrooms in here be kind of iffy. I'm glad you put.

[Lady London]

We had a whole situation like last.

[Lex P]

Oh, I'm glad you. It was awful.

[Lady London]

Thank God you wake up. Oh, girl, I wouldn't have came, like. I wouldn't have came like that. I wouldn't do y' all like that. I wouldn't have dated nobody like that. That's crazy.

[Lex P]

Okay, so we gonna go ahead and get to this first top, or you wanna do the.

[Lady London]

I was. Well, yeah, I was gonna ask Ty. So, Ty, tell us, what are we drinking today? Well, for our special guest, she is an alumni of the illustrious Howard University. H. You. You know, uh huh. We're gonna call this one the Lady Legacy. Cause she leads with legacy. All right, well, I like this. This one has a red wine base. We added a shot of Angostura bitter. Sometimes you just do dashes, but we actually put a whole shot inside of it. We added some dragon fruit syrup, a little bit of lemon juice, and then we garnished it with some beautiful frozen raspberry. So just to give it a little spark, a little special, a little bison. All right, into this. And this is the Lady Legacy. I take two of them. Can I have some more? A good. If you add a little spirit too. So I put some tequila in this one. Yeah, a little tequila. Love that. Okay, now you already know it's homecoming season, so we had to come correct poor minds. And Taylor Port presents the HBCU homecoming slush.

[Lex P]

It's giving frozen vibes. Taylor Port blended with berry sorbet. Lemon juice and just a splash of vodka.

[Lady London]

And the best part, you can customize it with garnish sheets to rep your school colors.

[Lex P]

It's fun, it's flavorful, and it's made to celebrate the culture and the HBCU homecoming slush. A Taylor Port classic in the making.

[Lady London]

Salute to the season.

[Lex P]

Salute to Taylor Port.

[Lady London]

So we're gonna get into our first topic.

[Lex P]

Girl, we got to talk about it. I love talking about this, especially with, you know, women that are in the industry. And Draya talked about it a little bit, but I want to talk like women in hip hop. It's been so much going on, and like you said, there is, like, unity, but it's not. And then a lot of that critique comes from men. So Jermaine Dupri has said that all female rappers are the same. You know, they all rap about the same thing, have the same aesthetic. And do you think that that's true for, like, you know, the mainstream artists? Like, what do you feel like mainstream wants and they're looking for? And do you feel like all of the women are rapping the same?

[Lady London]

I can't say all. I think there's a lot of similarities in a lot of things, but I don't think everybody is rapping the same, and it's always not. JD. JD's a close friend of mine. I am specifically. A lot of people, a lot of critics without credentials come in to speak about women, and I hate when men speak on women's business, period. I just don't think. We don't even. This ain't even apples and oranges, baby. This is spaghetti and hydrogen. I don't want to talk about nothing that has to do with no, man. We don't stay in your business. Y' all should take in ours. But me personally, I don't think that. I don't think that all women sound the same. I think they are highlighting a certain vibe right now, and I just hope to see a shift in inclusion. That's it. That's all that needs to be done. It don't need to be changed. It just needs to be more people coming in. Because it's not that them people don't exist outside of, like, the Turn up, stripper, whatever music. They got other stuff too. You know, we just need some eyes on it, some resources put behind it and to balance it all out. Like, kind of how it was back in the day. You had. You had like, a Lauryn Hill, and then you also had, like, a Charlie Baltimore, and then you had a little Kim and you had a foxy. Like all of these people are like great messages and just different vibes. So I think we just need to see a moment where like we integrate again. That's really it. And I think that's what men are trying to say, but they can't articulate it properly or just don't want to articulate it properly. So they choose to just say whatever, speak carelessly without anybody asking them. Unsolicited. Yeah, I mean, and I just think it's interesting because if we're gonna say that all of the female rappers are rapping about the same. Do these not be rapping about the same? Exactly.

[Lex P]

We know your. All of the male rappers. Yeah, we know you on the.

[Lady London]

Yeah, we know you sell drugs hustling on the block.

[Lex P]

We get. Yeah, like what? We get it.

[Lady London]

And it's been that way for like 30 plus years at this point. So I just feel like, you know, if you're gonna say it about women, say the same thing about men. It needs to be some variety with them as well.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Lady London]

Now they in our business. Right. Like you said, stay out of business.

[Lex P]

Stay out the business. And I do wanna touch on something that Sweetie recently said in an interview that she feels like we talk about pretty privilege, but we don't talk about pretty punishment. And she said like she felt like she's been punished in the industry and people treat her a certain way because of, you know, how she looks and it's actually worked against her. Do you feel like you have experienced that? I mean. Cause we can see face card on decline. You're gorgeous. I mean, you know, we can see it. So do you felt like you've dealt with that.

[Lady London]

Not enough. I want some pretty privilege. Okay. I'm gonna keep it a hundred with you. If I got any type of pretty privilege, it ain't kicking in yet because I'm not where I need to be. So give me some of that. That's what I, that's what I need. But I don't, I mean, I don't know, I can't, I can't speak to anyone else's experience in this game. I know that I've been boots on the ground since I began. Nothing has ever been handed to me, literally. Definition of getting it out the mud. And I still am. There's just no evidence of, of privilege on my end. For me, I'm not a commercial mainstream artist. I haven't reached the pinnacles that I plan to. So I just, just. I'm working like everybody else.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Lady London]

I think you know?

[Lex P]

Right. Do you feel like because. Because you are beautiful that people expect you to, like, sex it up more and do that? And do you feel like I'm purposely not doing that because that's what y' all expect of me? Or you just feel like it's just not me?

[Lady London]

Like, it's just not in my. I. I love to turn up to it, but I can't. I don't create it because it just. I don't feel like even people would even want to hear from me if I'm being honest with you.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Lady London]

I feel like if one day I was just like, put this pussy on your forehead, everybody would be like, lady, what the fuck? What the fuck are you talking about?

[Lex P]

And I kind of liked it when.

[Lady London]

You said it, you know?

[Lex P]

But no, I get what you're saying. It's not you.

[Lady London]

It's not. I think. I don't think I can do it for long.

[Lex P]

Right before.

[Lady London]

It's like, are you just doing this for the check for the sake of it? And also, I just. Again, I'm big on the inclusion. Like, I think that both can exist. So I think I would be dumb trying to get into a crowded lane when there's a lane that's right, that's wide open.

[Lex P]

I agree.

[Lady London]

You know, so that's it. But now I don't. Maybe people do expect it from me or maybe not. I don't know. I don't know. If I knew the answer. I. I'll be there. I'll tell you that much if I knew. We all trying to figure this out.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Do you.

[Lady London]

Do you ever feel like. Or have. In your experience, have you had any execs or, like, industry people tell you that people lean more into looks than actual lyrics? Especially since you have so much substance in your rap? A lot of the time, yeah. I've had people, like, tell. Or suggest that I dumb it down or, like, I don't know. I. I physically. I've tried to make, like, Cat in the Hat records, but it just. I just can't.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Lady London]

Like, it's, like, actually harder than you think for me to actually do it. But, yeah, I've had suggestions from executives from producers from whatever, but I don't know. I don't know. People always want to give suggestions, but no real. And they want to give directions to places they've never been themselves. Like, you. Yes, it works for somebody else, which is why they keep replicating artists over and over of the same caliber. But I think it worked for them because that was. They Calling to do that.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Lady London]

That was their path. Now you got to form your path, you know, So I don't know. I don't listen to nobody but myself and Jesus.

[Lex P]

I know that's.

[Lady London]

And I just feel like it's not any longevity in that. Like, like you said, if you keep making the same artist over and over, I feel like a person will a hit or they might have a decent run, but they're not going to have any sustainability for their career. Because we've seen this before. I think that's what really makes a star is somebody that's in their own lane and doing their own thing and you don't care what people talking about, cuz you know, the vision that you got and God got. So. And I think, I think it's a certain beauty to mystique. Like. I agree. I feel like when you don't explicitly show everything or show and that's just like, don't show your hands, don't show your right hand, what your left hand is doing. If you can just maneuver through a space and have this mystique about you but still pique everyone's interest, there's something in that to be discussed. I agree.

[Lex P]

Agree 100%. Cause that's how I feel about you. Like, I be like, what does she like? What don't she like? What does she think about this? Cause I'm curious at what you think about. Like, like I said, the things that's going on in hip hop right now. You know, we see Nicki and Cardi going at it very badly, and then we see other people catching strays, you know, like Megan, jt, You know, people catching strays. Then we see other people chiming in, adding their opinion. And, you know, I think you have done a great job of remaining neutral and not saying your opinion. So how do you feel about the state of hip hop right now for women and how it's looking with like the two biggest artists right now beefing and going at it so badly?

[Lady London]

Yeah, I, I don't, I don't really. I know that I'm. I don't have enough money to speak on this conversation. That's just what, like, I don't. There's. There's actually nothing more that I can say truthfully. If I'm. If I'm getting to the bottom of whatever, not only do I not have an opinion on other. Other people in general, I just don't. I. I be. I don't even know what's going on. Yeah, I'm Patrick Star. I live Under a rock. I just found out that was arguing this morning. I don't even haven't been on the blogs. I don't know nothing.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Lady London]

But I. I just don't have enough people are jumping into millionaire conversations and my grandmother's water heater has broken the hood. I don't know nothing about nothing. I don't know. I don't. I don't know. Yeah, I have to. I have to be where my feet are. I have to focus on getting to the next step for myself. And I don't think that it requires getting into anything to get like. I just gotta focus on my paper. First rule of kindergarten, keep your eyes on your paper. That's what I do. I. I'm about my money. I'll be at the bank, the booth and the Bible study. I don't know nothing about what happens on blogs. That ain't the beat that I look at the three B's. Yeah, that's it. That's all.

[Lex P]

I'm the type of bitch, I talk too much and I'mma let my opinion be known. But I think. But I'm also not a rapper. Yeah, but I think it's important to stay in your lane sometimes when things don't concern you, you don't have to give an opinion about everything, especially when it doesn't involve you. And I'm not even talking about like the tax bracket like you said, but I think sometimes involving yourself in things that you necessarily to be involved in, you just gotta steer clear of it. Cause it's gotten ugly, you know? I know you don't read the blogs, but baby, it's getting real ugly.

[Lady London]

Yeah, I gotta catch up Later.

[Lex P]

Chad Woo chest.

[Lady London]

So I wanted to definitely. So for topic number two, I definitely wanted to touch back on what we were just talking about as far as men always being in women's business. So for the second topic we gonna talk about. Are men messier than women? Messy boots. Yeah. Messy down. Messy. The soccer player. Messy as. Look, you know, they say who is the messiest bitch. You know, it's probably a nigga, ain't he? Men are so messy and like, they don't want to live in it. They don't look at it as gossiping. I remember I told somebody I was friends with recently. I was like, you gossiping? And he was like, I don't gossip. I'm a man. So I mean, maybe we could.

[Lex P]

I know who said that by the way you said it. I know who said that by the way you said it.

[Lady London]

It's like Maybe we should name it something else. Would that make you comfortable? But you're definitely got gossiping.

[Lex P]

Maybe it should be bossing girls. It's gossip for girls, for boys.

[Lady London]

Now you bossing, boy. Why is you bossing on my phone? I don't know. I think that is just crazy as hell. Some of the hottest tea that I have ever gotten in my life came from a man.

[Lex P]

The man. The men be having it.

[Lady London]

They do the rundown, too. They'll tell you from top to bottom, man. Let me tell you how. And you be tuned into what, What? And don't let it be he real comfortable. He is real tatty.

[Lex P]

But I will say, I think that I want to say this. I don't like people who be like, oh, I don't have time to gossip. I don't gossip. First of all, we all have friends that we talk to. And you be like, girl, did you see this? You know, like, I think that's normal to have conversations, right? But I think as men, like, y' all are messy. And it's one thing like Charlamagne. Charlamagne has leaned into his messiness and created a whole empire from it. He has stand in what you are. You like a little feet. It's okay.

[Lady London]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

You can say whatever you want with Charlamagne. He'll be like, yep. Cause I wants to know.

[Lady London]

But I love that about him.

[Lex P]

I love it.

[Lady London]

He's in it. But that's what you gotta do, though. I can respect anybody who's gonna stand on business about what the fuck they do. Right, Mikey? I said it in. Yeah. That makes the whole dynamic change. Cause it's the problem. The people that throw rocks and hide their hands is what I have an issue. Yes.

[Lex P]

Because what I do notice about a lot of men who do, like, interviews and they speak on, especially women a lot.

[Lady London]

They have tracks.

[Lex P]

They have so much smoke for women. But they would never say that about other men. Or they would. Like, I'm gonna just use you, for example. Like, they'll go on a rant about Lady London, but they won't speak two words about, like, another rapper, like an offset or something like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you have so much smoke and energy for women, but you never have that same energy for men. If you a real gossiper, you got to keep it even for all genders now. Yeah, you got smoke for everybody.

[Lady London]

Or keep it pee when I get in your face, too.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Lady London]

Because a lot of the times they do all this talking about Lady Linden and Da Da, I Sit down with them. And I'm like, so, what's all of that? You know? And then it's like that New York come out. I said, what?

[Lex P]

What did I.

[Lady London]

It's like, no, what did you.

[Lex P]

Hold on.

[Lady London]

Let's get the time stamp. Oh, this is what you said here. You know what I mean? So it's like, just be who you are. And I can appreciate that a nigga be like, yeah, I said that. That. Let's unpack what I said now. We can sit here and be two grown people about it. But I think it's a lot of the. Like, I didn't do that. You know, like, girl. And people be surprised when you bring it to their front door. They don't be expecting it. Oh, I. One thing I love is smoke with a Me, too.

[Lex P]

Oh, no, that's right.

[Lady London]

Fan favorite. Sign me up. Yeah, I'm gonna hit it every time. What was that was going on? Cause what you gonna do? Hit me exactly like, what you gonna do about it? And stand on it. Cause you said it. Yeah, but I feel like a lot of the time, men don't want to, like, acknowledge the fact that they messy because they look at it as a feminine.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God. Took the worst.

[Lady London]

Yeah, they look at it as a feminine trait. So it's like, they don't want to say, oh, I'm being messy. They be like, oh, I'm just speak. I'm just speaking facts. Or I'm just stating facts. Or, like, we be having barbershop talk. That's the same thing as women spilling tea.

[Lex P]

Y' all call it barbershop talk.

[Lady London]

Exactly. But they don't be wanting to accept it. Like, they be like, oh, you know, I'm a man. I'm not feminine. Walking in your feminine energy right now.

[Lex P]

It's funny because you know how, like. And when you go into the aisle in the store and they have lotion, but then they'll just put a blue cap on it, and men will be like, it's manly. You can pick it up now. So it's like. It's gossip. Y' all call it barbershop talk. It's the same damn thing. They just put a blue cap on it.

[Lady London]

And a little sandalwood.

[Lex P]

And a little sandalwood. A little musk in it to make them feel like you not doing what we're all doing.

[Lady London]

But I don't.

[Lex P]

Like, like you said, it's not. To me, it's not a feminine trait. It's a human trait. We all, you know, we all like to get a little, a little tea every now and then. But I wish that when men, it's just weird, a little weird with men because like, y' all have all this energy and get so bold when y' all speak on women. But it's not that same energy when you see. And that's why I say I respect charlamagne. Because it don't matter who in that chair. Yeah, if he want to say something, he gonna say it to you. You know what I'm saying? Whether you're a man or a woman. But a lot of times, like the messy men and stuff, they will have energy for one side, but not so much the other side.

[Lady London]

I mean, Wendy Williams was his og, right? So he learned from the best.

[Lex P]

Learned from the best.

[Lady London]

Cause my girl gonna stand on it every time, you know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

And then he was trying to say it like some shay. Yeah, like it's Wendy Williams, the, the Wendy Williams. Like, come on now, you can't do that. But again, men will use that as a dis. Like a woman is your og.

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[Lex P]

All I know is what I've been.

[Lady London]

Told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Podcast Narrator]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Lady London]

I'm telling you. We know Quincy killed her.

[Podcast Narrator]

We know A story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Lex P]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Podcast Narrator]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Lady London]

I did not know her and I did not kill her or rape or.

[Podcast Narrator]

Burn or any of that other stuff.

[Lady London]

That y' all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Podcast Narrator]

From Lava for Good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Lex P]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Lady London]

Track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin.

[Podcast Narrator]

Into New York from Asia.

[Lex P]

We had 30 agents ready to go.

[Lady London]

With shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected. Basically your stay at home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.

[Lex P]

They go, is this your daughter? I said, yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years.

[Lady London]

Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect.

[Podcast Narrator]

And who they dare to betray.

[Lex P]

Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light.

[Lady London]

Listen to the Chinatown sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or anywhere you get your podcast.

[Lex P]

Hell yeah, she is. Yeah, like what? What are we talking about?

[Lady London]

Like, what's wrong with that? This is not 1963 anymore. But I don't know, it's interesting because like I said, men just never want to stand on it. Like, they never want to be like, you know what? I am a messy bitch that lives for drama. Cuz you are. And you should acknowledge that and live in it. I also don't think it's anything wrong with being like, I feel like everybody gossip a little from time to. It's when you overindulge that it becomes a problem because now your ass is messy.

[Lex P]

Yeah, like, there's no way, like I don't have conversations with people. Like, look now, like we checking in every two hours. Like, girl, now listen, this is what I picked up. It's just like, it's the recap. Yeah, but like, we just catch up. Oh, girl, did you see what happened? And it's like in light conversation. I think even with like the show that I have love. Let's speak. It's very light hearted. I'm not getting into details. I don't get too deep. I'm talking about what everybody else sees. I'm not doing no research. I'm not looking at no comments. I'm not doing all that because I feel like there is a lane for like, you know, celebrity gossip and things like that. But when did it get so dark and ugly and mean?

[Lady London]

Listen, that is so mean.

[Lex P]

It is so mean. And it's allowed because they feel like, oh, we signed up for this. Yeah, I didn't sign up.

[Lady London]

They will say that to us too. Like, well, you signed up for these, so how you gonna be upset that I said this to you? Bitch, I can get upset at whatever the fuck I want to get upset about. Number and y' all don't know what it's like or what it feels like to be in that position. You can talk a lot from being as somebody that got 100 followers and a private page with an egg as the as avatar. You can say whatever you want. But imagine having a platform waking up to over 4000 comments and people being disrespectful. Like, you don't know that I'm still a human. Yeah, that is still a mental toll. Regardless of how strong I may be, how tough my skin may be, how much resilience I've built throughout the years. It's like, damn, motherfucker. Well, why the am I y' all done call me bald headed or some bullshit? What the happening?

[Lex P]

Like I said no. Why my corny. All right, let go.

[Lady London]

But then you gotta look like, why was I having a key through the comments?

[Lex P]

Cause I was laughing. I said hit.

[Lady London]

Uh huh.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Wait a goddamn minute.

[Lady London]

It be like that too. You be scrolling and you find some shit that hurt your feelings.

[Lex P]

They got my ass good. I can't even lie I said that. Touche, bitch. Touche.

[Lady London]

But do y' all think that pillow talking is messy? Do y' all think if your man is like pillow talking and he's telling you what's going on, do y' all still consider that messy with you and your man? Or is it more like when men are going to everybody else and telling them tea and telling them drama like they're not your girlfriend or your wife?

[Lex P]

I'm not talking is normal. Especially with somebody you've been with for a while. Cause just like you're my friend and we talk like I'm a talk to him and we gonna talk about things and you know what I'm saying? I think that people look at romantic relationships like it's just romantic. No, you're friends too. And what do you do with your friends? You talk. But it gets messy when it's like, damn, you talking to everybody. Now, I will say, I don't like a bossypy boy.

[Lady London]

A bossy boy.

[Lex P]

I don't like a bossy boy. I don't like. I said, if it's like me and him having a conversation, cool. But if you have, like, outside of charlamagne. I'm not talking about charlamagne because that's his job. But, like, if I see a man and he making a TikTok, like, oh, shit. Y' all seen Cardi B and Nicki? Hey, go to work.

[Lady London]

Mm. Build a house. Go to war.

[Lex P]

Hey, go build something.

[Lady London]

Build something.

[Lex P]

Hey, I'm gonna turn into a massage. What is it? Not misogyny. What's the other one? When women do it against me. No, I can't think of the goddamn name. Y' all know what I'm talking about. That's why I need to read. But girl, I say. I'm just saying, though, I don't like when I feel like a man is just like, not. It's barbershop talk, talk.

[Lady London]

Cool.

[Lex P]

But if you like.

[Lady London]

I feel like when they do nothing, y' all giving them way more grace. I don't want to see a man smoking a hookah, blowing in the camera in the front camera.

[Lex P]

I ain't trying to talk about that. We hate that.

[Lady London]

You know what? Let me tell you something. I don't know if I really mind them Smoking hookah. My mind is the recording on the front camera and blowing the smoke in the camera. Too bad for me. And you can smoke hookah with us. But if you nudge me to pass it, we got an issue, sir. Cause we not sitting around here waiting to exhale. Order your own fucking hookah. I'm not dealing with this. Or they order their own hookah and then they don't want nobody else to smoke it. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Lex P]

I had that happen to me with a guy, his friend, and I was like, hey, can I have the hookah? He was like, no, order your own. He literally straight up told me. No. I was like. I was shocked.

[Lady London]

I hope it starts tasting like a new Porsche shorts.

[Lex P]

I am sorry. I was shocked because, you know, I feel like just as much. But I do agree with you. Maybe we are being nice, but we try to keep it fair. But I will say, like, there's some things that men will always feel like women can't do. I. I am still stuck in that. Those ways. I do feel like there are some things that men just, like, cannot do.

[Lady London]

So a double standard.

[Lex P]

Yeah, I'm a double standard.

[Lady London]

Double standards are in place for a reason. Double standards. I agree with some of the ones they put on us and some of the things that I put on y'. All.

[Lex P]

Yeah. It's all.

[Lady London]

Don't nudge me for no hookah. I'm just. That's just what it is.

[Lex P]

And I don't even.

[Lady London]

As matter of fact, this don't even smoke hook around me.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Lady London]

Loading the camera with the front camera on the front of Sophie. That's crazy to me, bro.

[Lex P]

I cannot get with it.

[Lady London]

A man smoking hook. It just had never sit right with my spirit, even when I used to smoke it. Cuz we don't smoke hookah no more. We haven't for, like, what, two years?

[Lex P]

We went out with one time with Big Papa. When I was dating Big Papa, he smoked hookah. And Dre talked about it for two years.

[Lady London]

Cuz I never like that.

[Lex P]

She said, oh, hookah.

[Lady London]

Last night. I said, shut up, girl. Why are you putting a tip in your mouth? Exactly that. I don't like that. Yeah. Because we can relax and we speaking for the. The men who date women. Right? That's. That's what we speaking on.

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lady London]

Exactly.

[Lex P]

We talking about, like, men that we're. It's not my sisters.

[Lady London]

I'm a girl.

[Lex P]

Do what y' all want.

[Lady London]

Y' all want. Yeah.

[Lex P]

Y' all have free, right? Cause y' all understand what we go through. Because y' all date men as well, right? We all struggling together. So they get a pass. Go ahead.

[Lady London]

So what about Dirty Mac?

[Lex P]

I love Dirty Mac.

[Lady London]

You know, like when men be talking down on other men cause they don't want you to talk to him. Or they hating cause they really want you.

[Lex P]

I love a Dirty Mac.

[Lady London]

You always said you love a Dirty Mac.

[Lex P]

I love a Dirty Lex is messy now.

[Lady London]

I'm still.

[Lex P]

I'm still gonna fuck him. But hate on that nigga. Hate on him. He trash. He sure is. Tell me about why you think he trash. Give me an essay. But.

[Lady London]

So you ain't never a nigga. Haven't never dirty maxed on another. And you was like. Actually, because you told me all of this shit. I'm not gonna talk to him. Like, it's worked on me. The dirty mackin has worked.

[Lex P]

No, dirty mackin don't work on me. It made me want both y'. All. Cause I got to see what you talking about with him. But I also like your dedication, nigga.

[Lady London]

What if I shoot Lady Lindy? I. I don't know. Talking about another. I gotta prove it to me. I'm like Missouri. I'm the show me state.

[Lex P]

You gotta. You gotta.

[Lady London]

I need to see it for myself. So you could talk all of this about anything that's just across the board with anybody. I don't believe nobody's story about nobody. You could be like, I don't fuck with that bitch. You're not gonna like her. Because whatever. Whatever. And I won't believe it. And maybe when I meet her, I.

[Lex P]

Might not like the bitch, right?

[Lady London]

Maybe. But I gotta get there first. I'm very innocent until proven guilty type of.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Lady London]

So if you dirty macking on a. I'm automatically think you like him. Let's start there. O. And maybe not like that, but like a little. I mean, enviness of it.

[Lex P]

I get what you mean.

[Lady London]

Like a. I kind of like. It's something about him that makes me green. Like envious or something. That's my first thought. Second thought is, why you telling me I'm. You know, I don't like dirty macking. I think I really like who be like, I don't know about that. Like, I like like that. That are like, I don't give a fuck who you fucking with. Cause you gonna only you really gonna. You know who the fuck you really should be fucking with. Like, I don't care. It's gonna be your last stop.

[Lex P]

Yeah, like.

[Lady London]

Yeah, that part. Yeah.

[Lex P]

This could be your Last stop.

[Lady London]

How you figure that? Thank you. N love to hit you with it. And it don't be last stop.

[Lex P]

It never be the last stop. Cause even if you say, I don't give a fuck about that nigga either, no matter what you do, I'm going, fuck that other nigga. You ain't gonna stop.

[Lady London]

But see, for me, I. It has worked on me because I've listened. But then I won't fuck with neither. Cause y' all ass is messy. But that nigga might be all the things you said he is. So let me stay away from both of y' all asses, actually. I don't know. He might be fucking up. Your blessings might be over there. You know what I mean?

[Lex P]

Might be.

[Lady London]

But say why I'm still not married.

[Lex P]

That was a good point that you made, though. Like, when men talk about, like, other men, it's like they have a little envious. But I think also, too, when men talk about men who they're dating, like, when we see how, like, people talk about, like, Aisha Curry, and I'm, oh, Steph needs to leave her because she does this, or xyz or Y is Klay Thompson with Meg. Or people just always have an opinion. They were doing that to Jay Z when Beyonce, she had on something like a sheer dress, and they were like, why do you care about who this man chose as his partner?

[Lady London]

Right.

[Lex P]

That now that, to me, gives. Like, you got a crush on this man. You feel like you could be a better bitch for him?

[Lady London]

Yeah, like.

[Lex P]

Cause why are you so concerned about now that I don't, like, if a man ever has a conversation with me, like, yeah, I don't know why that nigga dating her. Are you okay?

[Lady London]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

You wanna fuck that nigga for sure. You want to fuck. I know you do. Cause you feel like you could throw it back better than Beyonce, and you cannot convince me otherwise.

[Lady London]

Okay.

[Lex P]

Cause why would you say that? Why do you care why this man is dating whoever? And I'm just using them as an example, of course. But to me, that's when I. Like, that's where I draw the line. Line.

[Lady London]

For me, personally, I think it's accurate. Men got these things called fantasy teams. You'd already been fantasizing about half of these men, that's why you care about their dating.

[Lex P]

They want to know what it's hitting for.

[Lady London]

Yeah, I don't know. It be a few things the dudes be doing that I be like, I don't know.

[Lex P]

The list is long.

[Lady London]

The list is long because I Also think it'd be weird when dudes always want to hang with their friends all the time over they. Girl, I do think you need to have the balance.

[Lex P]

Balance.

[Lady London]

It needs to be balanced. Like, of course, go hang with your homeboys. I know you don't want to be with me all day, every day. You don't need that male camaraderie. But, like, if you want to hang with him all the time over you, over me, something ain't right. A balance I just can't even deal with.

[Lex P]

Like, when I see, like, when men are, like, super nice to their homeboys and go all out for their homeboys and they be doing, like, the bare minimum bread crumbing.

[Lady London]

They girl, yeah.

[Lex P]

What?

[Lady London]

Can't relate.

[Lex P]

Yeah, I don't do that. You taking your nigga on vacation, buying him this and that, and it's like, oh, yeah, we can go to Chipotle real quick and Netflix and chill, huh?

[Lady London]

We can go get a cabin in Blue Ridge.

[Lex P]

I actually want to do a cabin in Blue Ridge.

[Lady London]

I mean, but I'm saying, if you taking your partner to Mexico. You trying to take me to Blue Ridge?

[Lex P]

Yeah. That's a little.

[Lady London]

We got a motherfucking problem.

[Lex P]

We got a big problem. Cause Mexico right there and them cabins in Blue Ridge, you might as well go to Mexico. Them white folks be tripping over there talking about a thousand dollars. Now, I said, girl, girl, you. I'm going to light this candle in my backyard.

[Lady London]

Okay? Make it a wood candle.

[Lex P]

You worry these out here, but I feel what you were saying. All right, we going to move on, cuz. Y' all know I get to chatty. What we got next, Dore?

[Lady London]

So now it's time to get into the bed bow. The bed bow.

[Lex P]

The bed bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.

[Lady London]

What's this song? Oh, we should get in the.

[Lex P]

You know, I can't hold a tune, so whenever you ready. You need somebody on the hood if.

[Lady London]

She want to interlude, do a little sample.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God. I called her one song that.

[Lady London]

She sounded like Barry White, and she got so mad at me, I'm fucking crying. It's a little berry tone. A little berry tone in it.

[Lex P]

Practice what you can. Okay. See why you do me like that? I ain't never gonna live that down. Talk about that for four months. Okay, so this segment of the bed is brought to you by Soft Exo. Y' all know we love salt XO products here. They have all the feminine washes you need, Oils, everything, y'.

[Lady London]

All.

[Lex P]

So make sure y' all go check out all of her product line lines. All of her products is black owned. First of all. Yes, we have to support the girlies.

[Lady London]

It's black owned. And then also she has travel size products now too, y', all, so you can get your products to go on the road. That's one of my favorite things about salt xo. Because we travel so much, I be needing a little mini. That's airport approved, TSA approved. So yes, y' all saw that. So some of the best feminine products that I've ever used. I've been using them for about three years. And she has all different kinds. She has, like, ones for sensitive vaginas. She has ones for, you know, if you want that little tingly, minty feeling. And she also has, like a radical gel. You know, if you're trying to get down.

[Lex P]

I like to watch that cat on the go. Got my travel size. And they. And these products. Men can use these products.

[Lady London]

Men can use these products as well too. Yes. It's good for your ph. And it's, you know, his needs to be right, so yours could be right.

[Lex P]

Get that duck butter. You know, they be having that duck.

[Lady London]

They do be having that duck butter. Mm.

[Lex P]

All right. You know, we had a.

[Lady London]

We about to make lady Lundy throw up a.

[Lex P]

You didn't make.

[Lady London]

I had the visual.

[Lex P]

It landed a little late.

[Lady London]

It landed a little late. But I was like the visual immediately.

[Lex P]

Lord have mercy. Okay. In honor of your bar that I went viral off of. Do rich men do it better in bed? You know, we've explored the topic of sex with men who are broke because they got to pay rent with that peen. They giving it away all. Yes, but do rich men really have better skills in bed? Like, is it because they have confidence? They're arrogant? Like, what is it about rich sex? You know, future them. They made a song about rich sex. What is it about rich sex that we as women maybe enjoy better than broke sex with broke men?

[Lady London]

Mm. The afterthought of going to the mall. I don't think it. Are we having a real conversation?

[Lex P]

Well, we having a real conversation.

[Lady London]

Cause I'm finna talk.

[Lex P]

We love a real combo.

[Lady London]

The best dick of your life gonna come from a nigga that don't got no job. Or if he got a job, he responsible for all the red fruit loops in a bag. A job that just you never even heard of. Child air mattress on the floor half way deflated. That going to put you through that air mattress to the next apartment for sure. I don't know about Rich having better dick. They have whatever. I don't know. They have what they got you. I think the anticipation is like the lifestyle that you live.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Lady London]

More than, you know. The actual sex. 10 times out of 9, but I don't know. I agree. That's what I think, too. I think it be a lot of the time. I think it be the money, the lifestyle. Being a jack to the lifestyle. His money make him handsome. Exactly. Same thing. Money make him handsome. Money make his dick good.

[Lex P]

It's a mind thing. It's a mind thing because y' all know that post nut clarity so real. After you have sex with a rich man and you're laying in that beautiful master bedroom and you go to that bathroom and use that salt xo that's in your bag and wipe that coochie off. And looking in this green with the.

[Lady London]

Marble floor, she feel bad tiptoeing on them floors.

[Lex P]

You like?

[Lady London]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

Like you happy about it.

[Lady London]

It ain't no clarity.

[Lex P]

It ain't no clarity. Cause you like, wow, this could be my life. You fantasizing now. But it's something about you done had some good, good dick from that broke.

[Lady London]

Man put you through the air mattress. Like she put you through the air.

[Lex P]

And it was good. You done had a good orgasm. But you look at this nigga, the hole in his drawers, he like.

[Lady London]

And you just staring there, looking at the ceiling. I'm not doing this shit again.

[Lex P]

That post nut clarity for a rich man is great. But the post nut clear when you when fucking with a broke man. But it's good. It is good. She be like, why am I here? What have I done, Mitch?

[Lady London]

That was way back in the day for me, child. I am the rich nigga nowadays. But I don't know.

[Lex P]

And that's why I say I need silly no more. Cause I be having the time. Me too. I'm in my bathroom with the mart.

[Lady London]

On the marble floor. Say it. And we not sleeping with nobody.

[Lex P]

We're not.

[Lady London]

Like she said, we're the rich now. We're not sleeping with on air mattresses anymore. So I don't never even be in those type of situations. I do think, though, that it's possible to find a man who is successful, who has good deed. Yeah, I think so too. They out there. I just feel like probably, I don't know. But majority of the time that's probably not the case. Because I feel like a lot of rich, they don't get a little corny. They be corny, but they're not corniness like the money be the personality a lot of the time. Yes. And I think they used to also dealing with women who don't have much personality either. Like, right, I'm gonna hold ourselves. I'm a. Well, not me. Cause we gonna have a job. Exactly. But it's girls that don't have like Instagram is their personality.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Lady London]

Right. So like you'll. You'll see a. She's like gorgeous, flawless. And you meet her in person. You know, I can imagine like as a man. Cuz I've seen girls as like that I'm cool with on the Internet. And then I link like oh, we whatever. Get drinks while I'm in the city or whatever. And the is just personalities in the basement. Like I'd be like, damn. Yeah, well, same. All right, girl.

[Lex P]

You had that one. You're like, okay, I'm about to go.

[Lady London]

Cuz I play all day day. Like I can't. I don't know the. The Instagram. Serious. We got to Instagram every little thing. Can you hold up the phone while I walk past it and I'm going go collect it from the elevator after we.

[Lex P]

It's just we always talk about the walkway videos. Oh my God, the walkway videos.

[Lady London]

It's a lot. But think about as a man to, to. To deal with that and, and have money. You like, bro, I don't want to be around this girl no more. Like, I got enough.

[Lex P]

But I also think with rich men too, it's like sometimes they don't care to give you good sex. Cuz they're like, like, okay, so if you don't want to stick around, it's another girl that look just like you who's willing to stick around. So I don't really care if you nut or not. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, but that's a lot of that too.

[Lady London]

Yeah, that's what I was saying. I feel like the money be the personality. Like they sometimes feel like I don't have to do nothing else. Like I don't have to. I don't have to be funny. I don't have to be chivalrous. I don't have to have good dick and z you down. Because, girl, you lucky to be dealing with me. I. I'm a $50 million nigga.

[Lex P]

And I feel like honestly, the people that we're describing, they honestly belong together. Like the boring IG girls and the rich man who don't care about nothing. Cause y' all both underwhelming. Yeah, they need to go ride off in the Sunset snooze.

[Lady London]

Let me tell you something. Chivalry over here is the climate, not the weather. Hello to be always in all ways.

[Lex P]

I agree that.

[Lady London]

I feel you on it. I'm a cancer. Okay, that makes sense.

[Lex P]

You a lover girl.

[Lady London]

You know, on the low. See, you know, I do shit and I cut up niggas in my songs. Right. I'm always. I'm always disrespecting niggas in my songs. But at home I be making plays and stuff, so. Right.

[Lex P]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lady London]

Like, so that's my jam and that's me. That's all of us. I be on poor setting up. But at home, I be making plates, folding laundry. What?

[Lex P]

Baby, we cuts up at the crib. Cuts up at the crib.

[Lady London]

I've been singing and folded in my sleeve. I've been humming it. I hope she win a Grammy. My bitch come up. Me too.

[Lex P]

I would love to see y' all.

[Lady London]

Do a song together. Like, I feel like that would be such a good song.

[Lex P]

Oh, that would be a clothes. Yeah, that would be a vibe.

[Lady London]

That would be a good song. She is truthfully amazing.

[Lex P]

How you feel about it, Ty?

[Lady London]

I don't know. Some of my rich have been my best eaters. Damn. I also think rich men have sex or use sex as sport, like, versus the broke who are doing it because they have. They need a roof over their head. You're right. The rich men are like, I can do. Like you said, it's good if you do, it's good if you don't. I' ma have a time. So they be having a feast.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Lady London]

That's just my experience.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Lady London]

But I can see them being a little bit less when it's sex wise. I can see them being a little bit less than the broke for sure. I love that for you, Ty. Thank you. I do best somewhere after this. Okay, she ready to go. She like when we repping this up.

[Lex P]

All right, so now it's time to.

[Lady London]

Get into the bow. Hey, the bow bow.

[Lex P]

The bow bow, bow, bow, bow, bow bow.

[Lady London]

I love it.

[Lex P]

So we can get in the stew right now. We got one right off.

[Lady London]

Now we do have a studio around the corner.

[Lex P]

So the bop of the week is like whatever song you've been jamming, listening to this week, it doesn't have to be new. It can be old, you know, whatever. So y' all know I love a good R and B tune and I'm an old school girly. And this song is new, but it sounds like an old school Song. So there's this guy who went viral on Instagram because he was singing like Johnny Taylor songs and just like old R and B songs. And he was like, I don't like the. I don't like the term, like y N. Cause I feel like it's kind of.

[Lady London]

Oh, yes, E.J.

[Lex P]

Jones.

[Lady London]

Yes.

[Lex P]

Oh, my gosh. And they were like calling him like, oh, this is a Y N. But he kind of voice. But just because, you know, he has a grill, you know, he looks a certain way, whatever, but he can really sing. Okay. I mean, his voice is so rich and deep in my head, he sings like what I think I sound like. So you can understand what I'm saying.

[Lady London]

When you say rich and deep, are we talking like. Like miles from centers? Like he had a deep voice. Talking about Lady Linden. Yes.

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lady London]

He like an Al Green. Like. Yeah, I would describe him as an Al Green, E.J.

[Lex P]

Jones.

[Lady London]

Okay.

[Lex P]

So he has a song called Gas Station Love and it has been on repeat. Okay. It is so good.

[Lady London]

He's only like 23, but he got like that. His voice is like straight out of the, like Sam Cooke. Write it himself.

[Lex P]

Yes. If you heard his voice, like, you just let it play, you would think it was a 50 year old man scene. But it doesn't sound like outdated. Yeah, it doesn't sound like you're listening to, like a song. It gives the old school vibes, but it gives like, this is a young man singing about being in love and how he met a girl at the gas station. It's so good. Girl, when I tell you, when I listen like a song, I run it to the ground.

[Lady London]

I'm the same way.

[Lex P]

Oh, it's so good. So that's my bop of the week. Week. E.J. jones, gas station Love. Y' all go listen to it. It's good.

[Lady London]

You gonna have to send it to me.

[Lex P]

Gas station, gas station love. I was waiting for you. You ain't said nothing but a word. I'm gonna listen to it on the way home.

[Lady London]

I feel like he wrote it. I don't know.

[Lex P]

Girl, station and girl, station, girl. He said it just like that.

[Lady London]

The funny thing about this moment is that she lowkey auditioning. So then she could be on there in a.

[Lex P]

You just don't know. Every time somebody sit here, I'll be like this. Hurry.

[Lady London]

I hear it. Hold on. Because somebody grew up in the church. Hold the way.

[Lex P]

Don't play with it. Just stay with it.

[Lady London]

Get an undertone now that's all right. Okay.

[Lex P]

What you been listening To Dre.

[Lady London]

Okay. So I really have been in my Caribbean music bag.

[Lex P]

Oh, wa.

[Lady London]

I have like, I love. I love Caribbean music. I love especially Jamaican artists. Like, I love me some Dexter D. Yeah. Shout out to my best friend, Lynn. My best friend is Jamaican. But yes, like, I love me some Dexter Daps. Okay. I love me some Dexter Daps. And it's so funny. Cause shout out to Lynn, mom. Cause her mom is like a older, you know, more traditional Jamaican woman. And she do not like Dexter.

[Lex P]

She don't?

[Lady London]

No. Cause she say he too vulgar.

[Lex P]

I love vulgar.

[Lady London]

But she like saggy though. He was talking about banging on the bathroom floor. He got some healing music though. Dexter's. He got a lot of stuff that's like very positive.

[Lex P]

I agree.

[Lady London]

I agree. I love me some Dexter.

[Lex P]

He said, bring it to the owner, ma'. Am. I love Dexter's apps too. So I'm with you on that.

[Lady London]

He came out with all night.

[Lex P]

That was your song for your birthday?

[Lady London]

It was.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God.

[Lady London]

See the late eyes Men got the girls in a chokehold.

[Lex P]

I don't that. Yeah, he be having. I need to go.

[Lady London]

I don't want no light eyed dimple. Keep him away from me.

[Lex P]

Like how people light eyed people be.

[Lady London]

Thinking they be having supremacy and they.

[Lex P]

Be looking at you like this. Yes.

[Lady London]

You know, you had them. You be doing it. That's what I would do. I would stop at traffic lights or nothing. Now we hating a little bit. Okay, so my song is rbg. Real Bad Gal. Ooh by Dick the Depths and Stalk Ashley.

[Lex P]

Is that new?

[Lady London]

It came out this year.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Lady London]

Okay. Yeah. So I really like this song.

[Lex P]

It's okay.

[Lady London]

Good. It's a vibe.

[Lex P]

I'mma listen to it.

[Lady London]

I haven't heard. Y' all should check it out. Yeah. See if you like Dexter Daps. You should check it out. Yeah, I love it. So what you been listening to? I've been like, I told you I wanted to like talk less and listen more. Right. But being very careful about what I'm listening to and what I'm intaking. So I've been listening to like all high vibrations vibrational music that's like feeding into my spirit. So it's an artist, I think she's from Detroit. Her name is Charity. And she has a song called Warm and Soft. And she's about to drop it officially October 25th or something. But I've been listening to like the snippet that she put put out. And it is so good. I told her, like, this song is gonna heal people. Like Heal the world.

[Lex P]

For real.

[Lady London]

For real. So I've been having the clip on rotation, and I was One of the 978,000 people who begged her to put out the actual. So I noticed yesterday she had put up a post basically saying, like, I'm finally going to put it out. So it drops tomorrow, October 25th.

[Lex P]

O I can't wait to hear.

[Lady London]

Yeah, shout out with that too. In the post, she gave you a shout out.

[Lex P]

Yay. Send it to me T so I can make sure.

[Lady London]

Send it to me too.

[Lex P]

S. All right. Okay, those are our buyers. Tops of the week. And what we got next item of the week.

[Lady London]

So now we're gonna get into the item of the week. So of course, this episode is sponsored by salt xo. So that's my item of the week period. And then also Muse beauty.

[Lex P]

Muse beauty. Per usual. And y' all know we sipping on that Taylor port.

[Lady London]

Hello.

[Lex P]

As always. Okay, so do we have the pour your heart out? Yes, we do.

[Lady London]

Yes, I do.

[Lex P]

So go ahead.

[Lady London]

Okay. So per usual, y' all know if y' all have any questions that y' all want to send in, send them to ask poorminds gmail.com. that's a S K P O U r M I n d s gmail.com, send us your questions. Send us your testimonials. Because I feel like they ain't sent no testimonial in a long time.

[Lex P]

Yeah, they haven't seen us no testimonials. Maybe we've been doing good with the advice.

[Lady London]

Yeah. Because the testimonials was not good ones.

[Lex P]

Yeah, they was giving us, like, we would give them advice, and they were coming back and let us know like we fucked their life up.

[Lady London]

They were like, I should. Well, bitch, who told y' all to listen to me?

[Lex P]

Yeah, I ain't got no nothing and nothing.

[Lady London]

I'm not a professional.

[Lex P]

Hell no.

[Lady London]

So do you feel like you give good advice? I think it'd be funny. It'd be a cute. I'm not here to fix your life.

[Lex P]

She said earlier she made more poor decisions.

[Lady London]

I am not Ayanna. We are, but you come take a sit on my couch and we can figure this out.

[Lex P]

Well, she said, well, we're going to.

[Lady London]

Figure it out together.

[Lex P]

All right.

[Lady London]

All right, y'. All. So this question number one high. Lex, Andrea, love y'.

[Lex P]

All.

[Lady London]

I'm 25, almost 26, and have been single for about four years. I've done a lot of self work and I'm super comfortable being myself. Oh, Being by myself. But I do want my person. Here's my boundary. Within the first month of dating, if I see any weird behavior or conflict that makes me question your character, I'm out. I just feel like it's way too early for problems. My friends say I'm too strict and should allow mistakes, but I feel like early on you should be doing everything right. Do y' all think I'm being too strict or am I moving the right way? I love when people are as weird as they need to be in the beginning. I need you to get that all out in the front. I want to know it all, please. I'll be the first to tell you. Like, I'd rather you don't. Because what they call it love bombing, right? Or, I don't know, whatever they call love bombing. They love bomb you to death. They pinpoint all the things that you like, like, that you would like them to do, and then they make you feel like this is who they are as a person. Then later down the line, you too far deep in it with this imaginary person that you created or the potential of this person you created. And now it's too far to get back. So get out all the kinks now. Honestly, I like to. Third day, I'm in my bonnet on FaceTime. I need you to see me in my scarf.

[Lex P]

Come on now.

[Lady London]

I'm gonna keep it a hundred with you. Ten times out of nine, I got press. I'm moving around. I may have my face beat. I'm gonna be dressed, but if I'm not like dress face beat, I'm homeless Couture, it's giving hello same. The socks don't match. It's a comb in my hair all the time because I'm always with a rat tail like this. I just need you to see the real me because I don't need you to be surprised at all. And I want to see the real you too. So I think you are being a little strict, sis. You might want to just let him be himself and then decide whether that won't work for you. Because you just got to get to the core of a person. Person. Cuz I don't know. All that strict will end up having you alone. Alone. And I'm not saying don't have boundaries. I'm just saying just make sure that it's not just all surface level that you probably could get past 20% don't compare to a good 80. You need to be clear on your boundaries and clear on your standards. Like what are you okay with dealing with and what Are you not okay with dealing with. I think if you go into a new situation and you know these things already, then you'll have better discernment. Because I agree with you. Like, some of the stuff. And everybody has different standards. Everybody has different opinions on things. But some of the things, sometimes that I think people be like, oh, that's a deal breaker. Is it really a deal breaker? Are you looking for somebody that's perfect? Not a perfect person? Yeah. So I agree she is being. Probably being a little street aggressive.

[Lex P]

I don't know.

[Lady London]

The nigga could be terrible. That's what I say.

[Lex P]

I don't know exactly what your boundaries are. You know what I'm saying? But I feel like you always say for people to come up with a list of things that you do and you don't like and give your things that are like a hard no. Like, these are your boundaries. But if it's something that's like a light, it's not that serious. I think some things can be looked past, but if it's something that really is just triggering you and bothering you, then of course, cut it out. But it just depends what you decide is your hard. No. And what things that you can kind of cushion on.

[Lady London]

Pinpoint the worst thing about somebody and figure out whether you can live with it. And that's just. What is it of this.

[Lex P]

Come on now. That. That's a good. That's. I need to do that.

[Lady London]

Cuz I used to be real strict.

[Lex P]

But also.

[Lady London]

On the upside, I don't have nobody that I feel like them. I was being too strict and I should have stuck with that.

[Lex P]

No, that's true.

[Lady London]

Same. But that's after. But I unpacked the whole. You unwrap the whole.

[Podcast Narrator]

Thanks.

[Lady London]

You already saw the whole package. Not even.

[Lex P]

Like that is very, very true. Okay, so let us know. Well, of course we know we can find you, but still let the people know where they can find you. You know, everything that you got up coming up, including the documentary and all that good stuff.

[Lady London]

Yes. So y' all can find me on all social networks at Lady London. No periods, no underscores, no nothing. Just straight up, exactly how you hear it. I have an upcoming documentary coming out with To Be. You can download To Be for free. Free subscription. All three episodes will be available October 10th. And my debut album will be coming out next year. So I'm super excited y' all tune into that.

[Lex P]

Yes, I'm excited for that album. And you know, she lives in Houston.

[Lady London]

She was telling me that. Yeah.

[Lex P]

So we walk up to Houston. Yeah, we ain't gonna bore you.

[Lady London]

We gonna have a. Y' all girls is from here. So take me to the city. I want to go to the hood, to the spot.

[Lex P]

Oh, I'll take you to the store.

[Lady London]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Lex P]

I know right where we going.

[Lady London]

We gonna go to Savoy 15.

[Lex P]

We going to have us a ball. So y' all make sure y' all follow Lady London. Check out Always Lady London on Tubi. Make sure y' all go to muse beautycollection.com. and get all your lippies, your blushes, your mascaras. And make sure y' all tune in to Love Lex P every Monday morning at 10am and we'll see y' all next week. Bye, y'.

[Lady London]

All. This is LLD like she shocking.

[Lex P]

This is LL the first L is ladies.

[Lady London]

Is ladies. You singing lead?

[Lex P]

You singing lead? I can't sing.

[Lady London]

That's why I rap same. And I can't sing neither. Oh.

[Lex P]

I auditioned the whole episode.

[Lady London]

Now, y' all from Texas. What's going on? Come on, come on. Yeah.

[Lex P]

Dang.

[Lady London]

She didn't even start yet, huh?

[Lex P]

Well, now, get to it.

[Lady London]

We were one, babe.

[Lex P]

For a moment in time.

[Lady London]

And it seemed everlasting that you would always be mine.

[Lex P]

Now you want to be free, so I'm letting you fly. Cuz I know where my heart b I love whenever. I know you'll always be a part of me. Indefinitely. Boy, don't you know you can't escape me, O darling. Cuz you'll always be my baby. And we're lingering.

[Lady London]

Oh.

[Lex P]

Oh, no way. You never going to shake me.

[Lady London]

My baby.

[Lex P]

Oh, we all up. That's all right. We getting there. We getting there. We getting there, huh? Here we go. I ain't going to cry. No. And I won't beg you, too.

[Lady London]

No, I won't leave. Boy, I will not stand in your way.

[Lex P]

But inevitably you'll be back again. Cause you know in your heart, babe. I love will never end.

[Lady London]

You'll always be a part of me. I'm part of you indefinitely. Woo.

[Lex P]

Boy, don't you know you can't escape me? Oh, darling. Cause you'll always be my baby. And will always be you and I. You and I.

[Lady London]

Sing it.

[Lex P]

You and I will always be you. Come on. I'm a fan. You and I. Yeah. Yeah.

[Lady London]

That's one.

[Lex P]

Y' all felt that. That's why I got quiet in this. Y' all felt that. We'll see y' all next week. Ain't no topping. That's the be in the building and.

[Lady London]

The l don't stand for me, honey. Clearly, Sam.

[Lex P]

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[Lady London]

Bought a ticket that help him escape.

[Lex P]

So we're sitting like, oh God, what do we do? What do we do? That was dumb. People, do not follow my example. Listen to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Lex P]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns.

[Podcast Narrator]

Listen to Graves county on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts. Short on time, but big on true crime. On a recent episode of the podcast Hunting for Answers, I highlighted the story of 19 year old Lachey Dungy. But she never knocked on that door. She never made it inside. And that text message would be the last time time anyone would ever hear from her. Listen to Hunting for Answers from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lady London]

This is an iHeart podcast.