Pour Minds Podcast – “Stay Out The Business ft. Lady London”

Date: October 24, 2025
Hosts: Lex P and Dre Nicole
Guest: Lady London (rapper, songwriter, actress, poet)
Podcast Network: The Black Effect | iHeartPodcasts

Episode Overview

This lively and candid episode features Bronx/New Jersey-raised rapper, poet, and scholar Lady London joining Lex P and Dre Nicole for a wine-fueled deep-dive into music, womanhood, social media scrutiny, and the messy business of both men and women. The hosts and Lady London swap stories and laughter as they address hot topics in female hip hop, industry double standards, and the power of unapologetic self-presentation, all while keeping the signature Pour Minds mix of humor and realness. Lady London also opens up about her roots, her highly anticipated Tubi documentary, balancing artistry with privacy, and the pressures of being a woman in both academia and the rap world.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lady London’s Background: Scholar to Star

[04:32–07:49]

• Early Life & Education: Grew up between New York and Jersey in a Caribbean household, surrounded by 90s hip hop ("the mecca of hip hop at its peak"). Lady London stood out as an academically gifted child, attending Howard University, double majoring in Sports Medicine and Chemistry, then attending USC Keck for Global Medicine.
• Transition to Music: She originally wrote poetry and went viral online, which led to artists and producers reaching out. Transitioned from poetry to rapping in just three months, learning the technical aspects of the art form herself.
• Quote:
  "My mom never censored music around me...I was really into school, but I had like, behavioral issues." — Lady London [04:43]

2. How Education Shaped Her Lyricism

[07:17–07:49]

• The trio discusses how Lady London's extensive vocabulary, shaped by a Caribbean upbringing and rigorous education, gave her a unique edge.
• Quote:
  "My vocabulary is pretty intense, and I think it does trickle into my music for sure." — Lady London [07:38]

3. Documentary: “Always Lady London” (Tubi, Oct 10)

[07:57–10:22]

• Lady London’s upcoming docuseries details the process of recording her debut album—a balancing act between sacrifice and reward, with behind-the-scenes moments in Houston, NYC, and LA.
• She underscores the tension between public curiosity and her strong sense of privacy.
• Quote:
  "I'm so private, I don't even want people to know I went to Target yesterday...but people want to know everything." — Lady London [07:57]
• Lex draws parallels to the MTV “True Life” days, celebrating longform documentary as a way for artists to shape their own narrative.

4. Balancing Message & “Pop That Ass” Energy In Hip Hop

[11:33–13:30]

• Lex asks how Lady London reconciles her message-driven art with the prevailing “twerk music” wave.
• Lady London reveals her multidimensionality—that she enjoys a good party anthem as much as anyone, but is boxed in by public perception as solely poetic or “deep.”
• Calls for hip hop and R&B to reclaim balance and inclusivity, so both club bangers and soul-baring tracks can co-exist.
• Quote:
  "I just wish music right now was all inclusive...somebody needs healing, somebody needs to twerk." — Lady London [12:18]

5. Female Unity & Competition in Hip Hop

[13:34–15:39]

• Lady London says she’s largely had positive experiences with other women in the music industry but acknowledges not everyone is as lucky.
• She calls for “unity amongst diversity” and warns against people—particularly women in rap—getting into conflicts that don't involve them.
• She also makes a pointed case for minding one's own business for peace of mind.
• Quote:
  "Anybody who has an issue with me is more of an issue with yourself. Because I don't be in the mix of nothing." — Lady London [14:47]

6. Celebrity Privacy in the Age of Social Media

[15:05–16:49]

• Lady London identifies as “private, not secretive,” citing Rihanna as a model for boundary-setting.
• Both hosts advocate for returning to a time when artists weren’t expected to share every thought online, warning overexposure breeds misunderstanding and unlikability.

7. Online Negativity & Not Trying to Please Everyone

[17:09–19:44]

• The women share stories about negative comments, TikTok shade, and unnecessary internet attacks. Lex laughs off being called “corny” online, and Lady London reminds everyone that real life is bigger than troll opinions: "That's some sweaty-handed dude in a basement."
• Lady London reflects on her own viral moments and how public mimicry, even if mocking, is actually a form of flattery.

8. Poor Decisions Segment

[20:05–31:00]

• Lex’s “poor decision” of the week: Messing up her garage with spilled paint.
• Lady London’s poor decision: Attempting a three-day water fast, resulting in extreme hunger and anger.
• Dre Nicole’s poor decision: Eating at a sketchy buffet, which ended in food poisoning.
• This lighthearted, candid segment showcases their humor and relatability.

9. Women in Hip Hop: Are Artists Really All the Same?

[32:57–35:37]

• The group unpacks Jermaine Dupri’s controversial statement that all female rappers are the same.
• Lady London rebuts: There’s diversity in female rap, but mainstream visibility is selective. Calls for more inclusion, likening today’s scene to an era that could hold Lauryn Hill, Lil’ Kim, and Foxy Brown all at once.
• Quote:
  “Men...speak carelessly without anybody asking them. Unsolicited. If you gonna say it about women, say the same thing about men.” — Lady London [33:39 & 35:27]

10. Pretty Privilege and Industry Bias

[35:41–37:43]

• After Sweetie’s remarks about “pretty punishment,” Lady London says she’s yet to benefit from “pretty privilege” and that nothing has been handed to her:
  "If I got any type of pretty privilege, it ain't kicking in yet." — Lady London [36:13]
• She avoids playing into sexualized expectations and insists on staying in her own creative lane.

11. Industry Pressure to “Dumb Down” Lyrics

[37:58–38:59]

• Lady London details pressure from industry types to “dumb down” her lyrical content, sharing she tried to write “Cat in the Hat” records, but it couldn’t stick.
• She calls out executives giving advice for lanes they’ve never themselves walked.

12. Staying Out of Other People’s Business: The Nicki vs. Cardi Beef

[39:47–41:31]

• Lady London intentionally avoids public rap beefs and “millionaire arguments,” focusing instead on her own progress and “the three Bs: the bank, the booth, and the Bible study.”
• Quote:
  “People are jumping into millionaire conversations and my grandmother’s water heater has broken in the hood.” — Lady London [40:56]

Memorable Quotes & Moments

On Men Being Messy (Messier Than Women?)

• [42:05–47:08 | Recurring Throughout]

• Lady London and the hosts roast the myth that only women gossip, with Lex coining the term “bossy boys” for mess-ready men.

• "Some of the hottest tea that I have ever gotten in my life came from a man." — Lady London [42:58]
  "Bossing—gossip for boys." — Lex P [42:53]
  "If you a real gossiper, you gotta keep it even for all genders." — Lex P [44:47]

• Both call out male podcasters and social media personalities who have smoke for women but not for men.

On Modern Dating and Deal-breakers

[80:00–83:33]

• Listener question: Is it too strict to bail on a potential partner after seeing just one red flag in the first month?
• Lady London and the hosts agree: Let people show you their true selves, but don’t be so strict you block your own blessings.
• "All that strict will end up having you alone. Make sure it's not all surface level—you probably could get past 20% that don't compare to a good 80%.” — Lady London [81:12]

On Good Sex: Rich Men vs. Broke Men

[66:00–71:01]

• The trio debates whether rich men are actually better in bed or if the “lifestyle” just clouds judgment.
• "The best dick of your life gonna come from a nigga that don't got no job...air mattress on the floor, halfway deflated." — Lady London [66:52]
  "Money makes him handsome. Money makes his dick good." — Lex P [67:19]

Fun Segments

“Poor Decisions”

[20:05–31:00]

• The hosts and guest share weekly mishaps, from home improvement fails to botched juice cleanses and buffet regrets.

“The Bed” & “Bop of the Week”

[63:49–78:43]

• Discussing feminine hygiene products, best sex stories, and song recommendations (including Dexter Daps, E.J. Jones' “Gas Station Love,” and Charity's "Warm and Soft").
• "Post-nut clarity for a rich man is great. But post-nut clarity when fucking with a broke man...you’re just laying there looking at the ceiling—I'm not doing this again." — Lady London & Lex P [68:26]

Notable Song Recommendations (“Bop of the Week”)

[73:21–78:36]

• Lex P: E.J. Jones – “Gas Station Love”
• Dre Nicole: Dexter Daps – “RBG (Real Bad Gal)” ft. Stalk Ashley
• Lady London: Charity – “Warm and Soft” (drops October 25)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro & Lady London’s Early Life: 04:32–07:49
• Impact of Education on Lyrics: 07:17–07:49
• Documentary Process: 07:57–10:22
• Hip Hop’s Tone & “Message” Artists: 11:33–13:30
• Female Unity in Rap: 13:34–15:39
• Privacy vs. Social Media Exposure: 15:05–16:49
• Online Negativity & Not Seeking Approval: 17:09–19:44
• Poor Decisions Segment: 20:05–31:00
• Mainstream Female Rapper Critique: 32:57–35:37
• Pretty Privilege & Looks vs. Lyrics: 35:41–38:59
• Nicki/Cardi, industry beefs, staying out of business: 39:47–41:31
• Men Are Messy/Bossy Boys Segment: 42:05–47:08
• Dating Boundaries Q&A: 80:00–83:33
• Rich Men vs. Broke Men Sex Debate: 66:00–71:01
• Bop of the Week: 73:21–78:36

Closing & Where to Find Lady London

[83:47–84:31]

• On all socials: @LadyLondon
• “Always Lady London” on Tubi (three-part docuseries)
• Upcoming debut album (2026)

Tone & Language

The conversation is bold, humorous, and direct—often blending serious cultural criticism with jokes, playful shade, and sisterly warmth. Think: group chat energy, seasoned with the realities of being women in the public eye.

Final Memorable Moment

Outro: Group Karaoke [85:31–87:43]
The episode closes with all three breaking into a raucous, feel-good rendition of Mariah Carey’s “Always Be My Baby,” laughter and slightly off-key harmonies included.

Listen if you love:
Authentic female friendship, behind-the-scenes music industry insight, fierce honesty about social media, and unapologetic takes on love, sex, and hip hop.

Highlight Quote:
"I’m about my money. I’ll be at the bank, the booth, and the Bible study. I don’t know nothing about what happens on blogs. That ain’t the beat that I look at – the three B’s. That’s it. That’s all." — Lady London [41:31]