World Wide Eaters FT. CHARLAMAGNE THA GOD

Summary

Pour Minds Podcast: "World Wide Eaters" ft. Charlamagne Tha God

Hosts: Drea Nicole & Lex P.
Guest: Charlamagne Tha God
Release Date: January 2, 2026
Podcast Network: The Black Effect & iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This lively and candid New Year’s episode brings media mogul Charlamagne Tha God into the Pour Minds studio for a no-holds-barred conversation about the state of podcasting, consistency, friendship dynamics, Black media representation, mental health, masculinity, and classic messy fun. As always, hosts Lex and Drea infuse plenty of honesty, humor, and their signature “wine-down” energy. The episode is both a masterclass in industry wisdom and a wild ride through personal stories, relationships, sex talk, and cultural hot takes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Podcasting Game: Real Talk on Consistency, Success, & "Making It"

Timestamps: [08:00]-[15:38]

• The Real Path to Podcasting Success:
  Charlamagne debunks the myth of overnight success in podcasting. He emphasizes that most people don’t last past three episodes, and real traction doesn’t come until year 6 or 7.

  “Most podcasts – 44% – don't last past three episodes.” – Charlamagne ([09:19]) “You start having actual success around year six or seven.” ([09:25])

• The Importance of Uniqueness:
  Charlamagne stresses that the only podcasts that last “are the ones where people have something to say—not just copying what's already out there.” ([12:28])

• Business Models & Ownership:
  Insights on licensing deals, revenue sharing, and the importance of growing independently before seeking network deals.

  "I would rather you start off on your own, grow it however much you want, then go look to partner with somebody." ([13:43])

• Discouragement & Small Wins:
  The hosts and guest reminisce about their first small checks from ads and how that felt validating after a long “broke” grind.

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2. Podcast Friendships & Behind-the-Scenes Realities

Timestamps: [09:33]-[11:22]

• On Friendship Podcasts:
  Discussing why shows hosted by real-life friends often crash and burn, and why Pour Minds is the exception.

  “We don’t do clickbait. We don’t need y’all in our business. Not everything needs to be content.”— Drea ([10:07])

• Speculation Culture:
  The group addresses how audiences love to speculate about breakups once success arrives.

  “Y’all successful now. So people want to see y’all break up…Whenever somebody’s having success, they decide, ‘You know what, we’re tired of them winning.’” – Charlamagne ([11:22])

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3. Inside The Black Effect Network & Industry Representation

Timestamps: [12:01]-[14:46]

• Selecting Talent at Black Effect:
  Charlamagne looks for creators with authentic stories, not copy-paste personalities or concepts.

  “Everyone has a unique story. Our DNA is different for a reason. Tell that. Do you. We already got that show. Give me what’s only yours.” ([12:28])

• On the Business Shifts:
  Podcast deals were once wild and lucrative but “now the business has leveled off.”

  “If you starting from ground zero, I can’t invest much because I don’t know if I’m going to get a ROI.” ([14:13])

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4. Working Dynamic & Race Conversations

Timestamps: [15:43]-[17:42]

• Charlamagne on Brilliant Idiots & Andrew Schulz:
  He sets boundaries on feeling responsible for Schulz's controversies:

  “Andrew’s a grown ass man with his own opinions. I don’t have nothing to do with that.” ([16:02]) “People want to tell me about somebody I know—but y’all only know a perception or a moment.” ([17:25])

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5. Breakfast Club & Evolving On-Air Families

Timestamps: [17:53]-[22:51]

• Losing Angela Yee, Gaining New Team Members:
  Charlamagne shares he "wasn't nervous" after Angela Yee left; had faith in himself and Envy.

  “I just have so much faith in myself…whatever God causes to happen around me, it's gonna be okay.” ([21:01])

• On Dynamic Group Evolution:
  Compares the show evolution to Destiny’s Child after their member switch-ups.

  “As long as you had Beyoncé and Kelly… y'all cut it out.” ([18:47])

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6. Getting “Messy”: Gossip, Wendy Williams, Impact & Responsibility

Timestamps: [23:03]-[35:14]

• Gossiping as Community:
  The trio admit everyone is messy at times; messy talk just comes with the entertainment territory.

  “Everybody gossips with their friends. Yes, we love gossip.” — Lex P. & Charlamagne ([23:06]-[23:32])

• The Legacy of Wendy Williams:
  Dame Dash had called Wendy his media OG “as an insult,” but Charlamagne flips it:

  "Wendy is a media icon. There's not too many people in Black media who have had the success that Wendy has had…other than Oprah." ([31:17]) “Wendy plucked me from South Carolina. She is my OG.” ([31:46])

• On Karma and Industry Responsibility:

  “‘I think I’m in this situation cause of how I used to talk about people.’ …That was just—wow, you know? Eye-opening.” – Charlamagne, recounting Wendy Williams’s reflection ([34:15])

• Boundaries of Reporting:
  The panel discusses how words and headlines affect real people, drawing lines between light shade and malice.

  “It’s a very thin line a lot of folks cross. These are still people at the end of the day.” – Drea ([35:14])

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7. Journalism vs. Gossip in the Social Media Era

Timestamps: [38:15]-[42:12]

• Lex & Drea on Keeping it Fun:
  “If you come to Pour Minds or Love Lex P for hard news, you already doing it wrong!” ([38:38])

• Charlamagne on Connection:
  “People like yourselves connect with people more than journalists. Some journalists just become robots and forget how to be human.” ([39:52])

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8. Personal Histories: Growth, Hustle, and Mental Health

Timestamps: [42:12]-[54:57]

• Charlamagne’s Hustler Roots:
  From selling “quarter spoons” of crack in Moncks Corner to “doing anything positive” so as not to “end up in jail, dead, or broke under the tree.”

  “I believe in this acronym: Peace. Positive Energy Activates Constant Elevation.” ([43:51])

• From Failed Rapper to Radio:

  “You suck [at rapping], but you’re a damn good at radio. Focus on that.” ([44:36])

• Mental Health Advocacy:
  Advocating for therapy, especially for Black men.

  “Something that benefited me…I just want to share it with people.” ([46:44]) “You can’t run from yourself. That’s another reason I talk about it.” ([52:34])

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9. Colorism & Childhood Pressures: A Vulnerable Conversation

Timestamps: [81:45]-[86:43]

• On Childhood Sexual Abuse & Colorism:
  Charlamagne speaks openly about family abuse and how it shaped his self-worth and people-pleasing tendencies.
  In parallel, Lex and Drea share their experiences with colorism, bleaching creams, and navigating Black beauty standards.

  “My mom used to make me wear bleaching cream…used to burn. I didn’t realize till I got older what it was.” – Lex ([84:11])

• Real Talk About Class vs. Race:
  The hosts explore being raised in white, upper-middle-class spaces and how those experiences shaped their outlook.

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10. Fragile Masculinity, Men & Affection

Timestamps: [75:15]-[100:42]

• Toxic Masculinity & Homophobia:
  Lex asks: “Why are men so afraid of being called feminine?”

  “Guys that use ‘woman’ as an insult make me feel…they like pussy, but don’t like women.” – Charlamagne ([76:28])

  • “I think men who want to know if another man is gay are attracted to that man.” ([78:03])

• Affection Between Men:
  Challenges stigma around men showing affection to friends, kissing sons, or giving compliments.

  “Especially when I meet men in their sixties, seventies and they're looking good—I say it! I hope to look like that too.” ([100:24])

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11. Sex Segment (“The Bed”): Couples & Bedroom Dynamics

Timestamps: [113:14]-[124:41]

• Speculating on Famous Couples' Sex Lives:
  The group has fun, tongue-in-cheek speculation about everyone from Oprah and Stedman (“I think Oprah’s the dominant one” – Lex) to Whitney & Bobby (“probably that wild crack sex!” – Drea).
  • Segment is called “The Bed”; features classic Pour Minds bawdy banter with Charlamagne fully in the mix.

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12. Business, Brand Deals & Black Podcasts in the Market

Timestamps: [127:01]-[135:49]

• Big Network Deals:
  Charlamagne gives honest insight into why huge “Joe Rogan” style deals are rare for Black creators: it’s a numbers (downloads/views) + network/ownership game.

  “Most of these folks are doing licensing deals—when the term is up, the IP comes back.” ([130:19])

• Netflix & The Podcast Space:
  Charlamagne cautions that virality happens on platforms like YouTube; Netflix risks losing that by locking down content.

  “You can’t fight the internet. Just let it do what it do.” ([134:14])

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13. The “Bop” Music Segment

Timestamps: [136:01]-[142:03]

• Everyone shares their music of the week, with Charlamagne (jokingly) choosing “Geeked Up Looking for an Eater.”
• Drea’s pick: Loyiso’s “Scary.”
• Lex’s pick: Summer Walker’s new album.

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14. Pour Your Heart Out: Advice Segment

Timestamps: [152:14]-[157:00]

• Finance Question from a Young Listener:
  Lex and Drea advise on high-yield savings accounts and long-term financial health: “Google a high-yield savings, see who has the highest percentage, start there.” ([155:09])
  • Charlamagne’s best advice: “Pay your taxes and save your money. And get good financial people—but trustworthy ones!”

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15. Relationship Question: “He Doesn’t Want a Relationship, But…”

Timestamps: [161:14]-[171:11]

• Advice to a woman whose lover is giving her “relationship vibes” but says he wants to “go with the flow.”

  “None of that matters. When a man wants to be exclusive, he’ll be exclusive.” – Drea ([161:44]) “A man will let you know—he either wants you as his wife, girlfriend, or side chick. You won't be confused.” – Charlamagne ([163:18])

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16. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others. Crack has taken people..." – Charlamagne ([58:02])
• "Men gossip just as much as women. They just call it 'building'." – Charlamagne ([31:40])
• “Safe sex nowadays is a prayer, mama!” – Charlamagne ([165:08])
• “I'm geeked up, looking for a reader.” – Charlamagne ([157:12])
• “I want to step into my soft woman power...I want to enjoy the fruits of my labor.” – Lex's New Year resolution ([174:59])
• "We love what y’all do. The best compliment is when women say I make them feel safe." – Charlamagne ([175:55], [176:20])
• "You’re not special until he makes you special." – Charlamagne, on dating ([171:01])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [08:00] – Podcasting Realities & Consistency
• [12:01] – Black Effect & Podcast Business
• [16:02] – Brilliant Idiots & Handling Controversy
• [21:01] – Breakfast Club Changes
• [31:17] – The Legacy of Wendy Williams
• [38:15] – Journalism vs. Gossip
• [46:44] – Mental Health Advocacy
• [75:15] – Fragile Masculinity
• [113:14] – "The Bed" Sex Segment: Famous Couples
• [127:01] – Podcast Business & Network Deals
• [161:14] – Pour Your Heart Out: Relationship Advice

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Tone & Language

The episode is deeply candid, unfiltered, and true to Black culture—filled with explicit humor, Southern-flavored banter, and an easy, conversational style. The hosts and Charlamagne blend vulnerability with wit, never shying away from tough issues or self-deprecating jokes.

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Summary for New Listeners

This episode encapsulates the best of Pour Minds: insightful industry wisdom, unfiltered perspectives on career and relationships, raw personal stories, and plenty of laughs. Starting with the unvarnished truth about podcasting’s slow grind, moving through discussions on the realities of Black media, friendship, and boundaries, then seamlessly blending in “drunk therapy” on gossip, relationships, and sexuality, it offers value at every turn—whether you’re building a podcast, rethinking your friendships, or just need a laugh and a bit of real talk.

Biggest Takeaway:
Stay authentic, stay consistent, learn from your journey—and don’t forget to keep your energy positive, your circle supportive, and your humor sharp. As Pour Minds shows with Charlamagne’s help, Black voices in media are more relevant, powerful, and necessary than ever.

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Transcript

[Lex P.]

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[Lex P.]

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[Drea Nicole]

Okay.

[Lex P.]

Tyler Perry and anyone. Because Leg said I think about that a lot. Sleep with Tyler Perry with the Madea style.

[Drea Nicole]

Absolutely. Still would. Yeah.

[Lex P.]

Look at my mama face.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I still.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's kind of fire looks.

[Drea Nicole]

I still think about that a lot. Mm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's kind of fire.

[Drea Nicole]

I like. I'm into a little role play. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I can imagine. I'm gonna have him say, lord have mercy in that little voice.

[Lex P.]

So you don't like real titties, but you like fake titties?

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I'll do a little fake titty. I like your titties.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My.

[Drea Nicole]

Ooh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What is she saying? What is she saying, Dre? Hey, little.

[Drea Nicole]

You know they fake. What's wrong with that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn.

[Drea Nicole]

I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

[Lex P.]

But with the suit on. This ain't a suit.

[Drea Nicole]

You don't take it off at night.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But with my dear, it wouldn't be about the suit. It's about what's under that skirt.

[Drea Nicole]

I know. That's what I'm saying. I think Tyler working with a little something never know. That's what I'm saying. I always think about Tyler and what he does in his bedroom. I do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If that skirt and Mr. Brown pop out, you be like, God damn. Know what I'm saying?

[Lex P.]

Mr. Brown pop out with him Ashes.

[Drea Nicole]

That's when I quit. What's up, y'? All? It's your girl Lex P. And it's.

[Lex P.]

Your girl Drea Nicole.

[Drea Nicole]

And you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Mind, where a drunk.

[Lex P.]

Mind speaks sober thoughts.

[Drea Nicole]

We got a guest today.

[Lex P.]

We got a guest today. Yes. So we have a very special guest in the building today. We have media icon, entrepreneur, author, radio personality. The list just goes on and on. And we affectionately call him Uncle Baddy. We have Charlamagne, the God in peace.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Peace, peace, peace. Peace, peace, peace, peace. How y' all feeling?

[Drea Nicole]

What's up? Call out my gay. Call out my gay. Call out my gay. Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy to be here. I like doing podcasts that I actually enjoy.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Thank You.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I mean? Podcasts that I watch when I'm just doing nothing.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

Now, you know, like, when you go and sit on somebody's platform, that's like a solid. Like, we have solidified that. We are, you know, in the building.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all been. Come on, man. Poor minds. Heavy out here.

[Drea Nicole]

You are like the cream of the crop of, like, doing this media stuff. Like, having a syndicated radio show is like the pinnacle of doing. Yeah, that's like the cream of the crop of doing all this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We've been around a long time. Breakfast Club been. It'll be 15 years. Well, it's 15 years now, actually.

[Drea Nicole]

That's.

[Lex P.]

Oh, that is a long time.

[Drea Nicole]

That is a run.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

15 years.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay. I wanna talk to you a little bit about Black effect we gonna get. I wanna talk about this because, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Can I ask y' all a question first?

[Podcast Host (Mind the Business)]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why did y' all post peel plan take 25 days?

[Lex P.]

You know what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Mine only takes two weeks.

[Lex P.]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. Why did it take 25 days? I heard them talking beforehand. That's been on my mind. I' is 20. Why does your post pill plan take 25 days?

[Lex P.]

So this is actually my third time getting this pill, and it's very.

[Drea Nicole]

Got a chemical pill, by the way.

[Lex P.]

We both got chemical pills, like, what, a month ago at. Well, a few weeks ago at this point.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lex P.]

And, yeah, so it's a very intense pill. So they give you after care, and then they give you the products, and you can only use those products for 25 days.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you.

[Lex P.]

So that's why it. I mean, it don't really. You're done peeling way before that, but they just want you to use the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You use, like, Destiny and all of that stuff like that.

[Drea Nicole]

No, so I think the thing about it is when you first get the peel, you have the big peel for a week, and then after that, you're, like, flaking and peeling a lot because you're using retinol while you're peeling. So, you know, retinol dries your skin out. And it's just a lot going on. So I feel like the first two weeks are really, like. It's a lot going on with your skin. And then using retinol while you're getting a pill is a lot for your skin.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. See, I've been getting pills for the past decade. Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

Now, you know, they said.

[Lex P.]

You said you was bleaching, but they said that about us, too, when we got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think it does naturally fade your skin complexion a little bit when you first start doing it.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, the hyperpigmentation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. But it all comes back. But that's what I had. I had hyperpigmentation.

[Lex P.]

Okay.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. You got it cleared up. Which peel you get?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know. You know, I don't know which one I get now.

[Drea Nicole]

There's a lot of different ones.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. It's not as intense as it was a decade ago. Salute to Dr. Natasha. Sandy. So my skin was good. I had. Over the holidays, I drank some dairy, though, so I might have like a little pimple or something.

[Drea Nicole]

I know that's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was just wondering. 25 days for a post pill plan is a long ass time. Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

We can't wear makeup. This.

[Lex P.]

We can't.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. This is the first time I'm done an episode without makeup in years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Lex P.]

A long time. We be liking to be glam dug.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I can't tell. Y' all look good.

[Lex P.]

Thank you. Thank you. You know what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

Well, again, back to the black effect, because I know a lot of people ask us all the time, like how to start a podcast and what we need to do, and I don't think there's a blueprint for this. But for the people watching that would like to be a part of that network, kind of like explain what it is and how somebody would pitch their podcast to be a part of your network.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you just said is very key. There is no one way to do it. I think that you see so many different people in this space having a certain level of success, and everybody thinks it's one way to get to that success, and it's not. The way y' all did it is probably different than Mandy and Weezy did. The way that Joe Budden does it is different than somebody like Andrew Schultz and flagrant. But, you know, the key to a successful podcast is literally just having something to say.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And not only having something to say, being willing to do it consistently when you're not making no motherf ing money for it. You know what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

I say that all the time because.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody thinks that just bag of cash that just drops in your lap as soon as you start a podcast. How long y' all been doing?

[Lex P.]

Four months since 2018.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

2018. So that's what, like seven years? Almost seven years. Do you realize that there's data that actually shows most people when they start a podcast? Most podcast. 44% of all podcasts don't last past three episodes.

[Drea Nicole]

That's crazy. Three.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Three.

[Drea Nicole]

You didn't even try three.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly.

[Lex P.]

This is the consistency that kids, and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You start having actual success around year six or seven.

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So when I look at y', all, it seems like y' all right on schedule.

[Lex P.]

Yeah. You just gotta stay the course.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gotta stay the course.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what? Podcast surprised me that they've lasted this long, and they're actually seeing a lot of success. Reason really why I just. You know, when people do podcasts that are friends together, it just don't work out.

[Lex P.]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

And they always break up. They always fight. But I was watching you trying to tell Dre something.

[Lex P.]

I mean, I saw.

[Drea Nicole]

Hell no. Hell, no. We in this for life.

[Lex P.]

The crazy thing about us, I feel like that's what makes us an anomaly, because we've outlasted so many of our other counterparts, and we be having our issues, too. But, like, licks and I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or bring it to the pod when you have.

[Drea Nicole]

No, we don't.

[Lex P.]

No, we don't.

[Drea Nicole]

You know why? Because I feel like one thing that I love about poor minds is, like, we don't have to clickbait and do all this stuff. Cuz a lot of times people are doing that. Just, oh, they gonna watch this. This is my friendship, and I'm going through it. I do not need y' all in my business. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It depends what it is, though. If it's a teachable moment and people can learn from it, there's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with bringing that to the point.

[Lex P.]

But you know what's interesting, though? Because I think because we don't do that, it's always a lot of speculation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

In the comments, like, y' all really get along.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Lex P.]

Like, especially if, like, one of us is having a bad day. I think people. People never assume that it could be outside fact. Like, both of us have separate lives outside of poor minds. People never assume, like, oh, maybe Lex had a bad day. Maybe she got into it with her man. Maybe she got into one of her other. Maybe she got into one of her other friends. Maybe I had something happen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You started to say other. Her mama sitting right there. Cause you ain't want you axe like that. I heard you started you. I saw.

[Drea Nicole]

I heard you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, you was. You said her man, and then you said other friends. I heard you.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I heard you.

[Lex P.]

But I'm just saying, like, maybe. Maybe I had to. Maybe I got flat tires or something, and I had to spend a whole bunch of money and I had to come to the studio, and I'm annoyed by that. People always assume that if one of us mood is off, it's because we not getting along with each other and.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all successful now. So people want to see y' all break up.

[Lex P.]

They do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's just. I mean, I don't know why people are like that, but whenever somebody is having some success, then all of a sudden that's when they decide, you know what? We're tired of them winning.

[Lex P.]

And the comparison, oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I mean, I don't know why they compare y'. All. When y' all a duo, y' all supposed to bring different things to the table. I agree.

[Lex P.]

Duality is what makes it interesting, enjoyable.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's the beauty of it. I could be watching this podcast, you know, Lex over there saying something wild and dread, just sitting there calm, you know, and you don't know whether she judging Lex, you know what I mean? Are she going to agree with her? Like, you just don't know. All of that makes the podcast intriguing.

[Lex P.]

I have a poker face.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lex P.]

But I do want to ask you another question about Black Effect. So one thing that I really love about Black Effect is that I feel like you give a lot of opportunities to smaller black creators. So with that being said, how do you decide what podcast you wanna sign?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, honestly, it's just about who we enjoy, you know what I mean? Or who might be bringing something to the marketplace that isn't necessarily out there. Cause that goes back to what I said earlier. Like, you know, everybody wants to start a podcast, but do you actually have something to say?

[Lex P.]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know? Cause I see a lot of people trying to be second rate versions of what somebody else is already doing. Because when they see somebody having success in the space, they're like, well, maybe if I do that, then I can have some success too. No, we already got that. Show me what it is that you have. Cause everybody has a unique story, man. Our DNA is completely different from everybody else on this planet for a reason. Every single thing you've gone through in your life, you've gone through for a reason. And that's your unique story. Tell me that. If you like to bake cupcakes and you are considered the best cupcake baker in your town, talk to me about that on your podcast. Cause one day it might be Valentine's Day and I might wanna do a little razzle dazzle in the kitchen and cook some cup for bae.

[Lex P.]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Right. Like, then I can tune into your podcast. Give me that. Like. And I think that, yeah, if you're. If you're doing that. I, I, I believe in investing in people early, cuz like I said, it takes six, seven years. At some point, I believe those folks will cut through.

[Lex P.]

And I think that's a really good point that you made because I think that's why a lot of people get discouraged initially, because they do think that in order for them to get signed to a Black Effects or even like a Spotify or something, oh, I have to be a Poor minds. I have to be a 85,000. I have to be a horrible decision.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that is, that is, that is. Yeah, that's very true. And the other thing about the podcast business is like, yo, I would rather you start off on your own, grow it however much you want to grow it, then go look the partner with somebody. You know what I mean? I think a lot of people are just saying, hey, man, I want to start a podcast. How can you help me start a podcast? And then when you be like, well, ain't no dollar amount to that, you know what I'm saying? Because the way the podcast business is right now, like five years ago, I mean, people was just getting money thrown at them in crazy ways. But now the business has leveled off and you know what somebody is supposed to make. And if you're starting from ground zero, I don't care who you are, I don't care if you're a former rapper, former athlete, whatever. If you starting from ground zero, I can't invest a whole bunch of money into your podcast because I don't know if I'm gonna get a roi, right? So the best thing for you to do is probably do a revenue share with whatever company you want to partner with and y' all grow something together.

[Drea Nicole]

See, I hope y' all wrote that down.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They didn't, they didn't, they didn't.

[Lex P.]

Cause again, most people get discouraged after their first year or two when they not making no money. We didn't make money for years. We always talk about when we got that first $86 check, we was so happy. I wouldn't tell us nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how I felt the first when we started Brian Idiots, 13 years ago, me and Andrew Schultz, we just started it. Cause that's my homie and we like to have conversations. But the first time we got an ad revenue check, I don't even know how much it was for. I was just like, oh, we can make money doing this, you know? And I was arrogant when I first started podcasting because I was already doing Breakfast Club. So my guy Chris moreau came to me and told me that I need to start a podcast. I'm like, for what? I do morning radio. Like, you know, podcasts are for people who can't get on the radio. And then I was like, well, you know, I have been fired from radio four times before. So, you know, if I start this podcast, at least I'll have something, you know, potentially to fall back on. And 13 years later, Brilliant Idiots is his own seven figure business.

[Lex P.]

Wow. You've been doing Brilliant Idiots for 13 years.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

13 years.

[Lex P.]

I never even realized that.

[Drea Nicole]

Let me ask you a question too. How do you feel partnering? Like, you know, y' all have. Y' all are obviously friends, y' all work together, but like, when Andrew gets involved in like, the race stuff and like, how do you continue Yalls relationship, but still trying to like, educate him but not cross the line? Like, how do you maneuver that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Not my business.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, and the reason I say it's not my business is because it's the same when I got shit going on. You know what I mean? Like, people like to come to me about things Andrew said. Andrew's a grown ass man with his own opinions. Right. Like, I don't have nothing to do with that. Like, you get on Brilliant Idiots. We have our discussions, we have our debates. We've been doing that for 13 years. You keep it moving. Plus, man, this politics thing is fleeting, right? Like, you know, 2016, we went through that, you know, and that's when they was calling them alt, right? Andy, 2020 came. Biden was in office 2024. He's back. He chose to support Trump. Listen, everybody got the right to be wrong. You know what I mean? Cause at the end of the day, when you make a decision, right, that person that you voted for, if that person doesn't follow through, you still voted for that person. So if you're wrong and he takes the country to shit, then you gotta eat that.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, so to me, that's just like, that stuff is fleeting, man.

[Drea Nicole]

You know, sometimes I be feeling like. I don't know if I could, it'd be hard. Like, if I. Like, if I felt like Draya said something publicly crazy now in the public, we ain't gonna. I'm not gonna get into her about it, but I feel like we would have to have a conversation behind closed doors.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, me and Schultz definitely have a lot of conversations. Like I said, some of them we bring to the podcast, some of them we don't. But like you said, Dre are your people.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

And can't nobody tell you about Draya. Right? Just, like, can't nobody tell Draya about Lex.

[Lex P.]

Cause we know each other.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all know each other. It's like, when I see people say stuff on social media. You know, I be on interviews and people bring up shows, I'm like, y' all don't know him. Like, y' all know a perception of him or y' all know a moment that y' all saw. I know the man for 13 years. I know his pops. I know his. His mom.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

His brother. I know his family. He knows my family. He was at my wedding. Like, I was at his wedding. Like, it's just like, this is somebody I actually know. So you can't tell me about somebody I know.

[Drea Nicole]

Right. That makes sense. That makes sense. Now I want to talk about Breakfast Club, too. Like, the dynamic that y' all have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because, like, Lauren wanted to come here today, too.

[Drea Nicole]

I love Lauren.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Her and Jess are in Atlanta. We all can't. We're all here for.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, damn. We definitely should have had them on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But she couldn't come, though. I mean, she gotta be somewhere. And she was asking, would it be cutting it close if she came with me?

[Drea Nicole]

Aw, yeah. Well, shout out to our girl. Cause I do want to ask that. Like, how was that when, you know, Jess came in? Were you, like, nervous when, like, Angelaee left and, like, who are we gonna replace her with? Cause it was kind of a revolving do for a second.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is a great question.

[Drea Nicole]

Cause, I mean, when something changes and it's so good, you be like. You know what I'm saying? Like, when Destiny's Child switched it up and it worked, but everybody was, like.

[Lex P.]

At first, everybody was enraged.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes. Like, they were like, where's Latavia And Latoya? Yes, they were.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They still had Beyonce, and they was us. As long as you had Beyonce.

[Drea Nicole]

But I'm saying, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And you had Kelly. You had Beyonce and Kelly. Y' all, cut it out.

[Drea Nicole]

We were there. But, you know, I'm from. I know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I love Latoya, and I love Latavia. But as long as they had Beyonce and as long as they had Kelly, wasn't nobody really.

[Drea Nicole]

We were nervous. We was.

[Lex P.]

We was.

[Drea Nicole]

You were nervous. I was shaking in my k. Swish. Yes. I was nervous.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nervous.

[Lex P.]

Get your roller.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What were y' all nervous about in that situation?

[Drea Nicole]

Because I was like, this is the end.

[Lex P.]

Was Michelle gonna be a good fit? We weren't. I mean, we didn't know. She ended up being an amazing feat.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. I'm not. Listen, I'm not just disrespect to any of these ladies when I say this. When Latoya and latavia left, y' all telling me y' all thought it was the end of Destiny.

[Drea Nicole]

We did. We did. You remember that? Because it was so like.

[Lex P.]

Because they hadn't even went solo yet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you could look at them and.

[Drea Nicole]

See that Beyonce was not Beyonce yet.

[Lex P.]

He wasn't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She kind of. I don't believe that. I looked.

[Drea Nicole]

We looked.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Beyonce and Kelly were always like, the standouts.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes, they were.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely.

[Drea Nicole]

But I think we're looking at it through the Cowboy Carter lenses of who Beyonce is now.

[Lex P.]

Okay, we talking about 1990. Well, we talking about what, 2000, 2008. Beyonce.

[Drea Nicole]

I remember we knew she was special, but we didn't know. We did.

[Lex P.]

We always knew she was special.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, I didn't think it was the end of Destiny's Child. I was willing to see what they were gonna do next.

[Lex P.]

And then, remember they had two? Cause they got three.

[Drea Nicole]

And then Farrah, Karen.

[Lex P.]

And then she dropped off, and then it was just Michelle.

[Drea Nicole]

Beyonce had to send her. We was like, what's going on?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was God, though. God likes rhyme. DC3, DC4 wouldn't have work.

[Drea Nicole]

It wasn't gonna work.

[Lex P.]

It wasn't gonna work.

[Drea Nicole]

But we were nervous.

[Lex P.]

We were.

[Drea Nicole]

So were you nervous when Angela Yee left and y' all were like, who is gonna be this third member?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I wasn't. And that's not to knock the, you know, Angela E. In any way, shape or form. Like, what we built was fantastic. You know what I mean? But I just have so much belief in me, and I have so much faith in myself that I know whatever, you know, God causes to happen around me in any way, shape or form, it's gonna be okay. So I never, ever, you know, got nervous at all because I, you know.

[Drea Nicole]

So you're saying you're the Beyonce, huh?

[Lex P.]

Yep.

[Drea Nicole]

That's what he said, Uncle Baddie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hold on. What'd your mom say? Something. What'd your mom. What'd she say?

[Lex P.]

For nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Amen. Yeah. It's the truth. It's the truth. No, no, I'm not saying I'm Beyonce. No, it's. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just simply saying I had faith that me and Envy would be okay. I just really did. I knew it, and I knew it would be fun. Because my vision for the Breakfast Club has always been for it to be a club. Right? Like, you Know you want all of these different, multiple members who are able to come through this show and have success. And it was dope that Angela Yee was able to go off and get her own show. Like she has her own show Way up with Angela Yee, that's also nationally syndicated. It comes on right after the Breakfast Club. Her studio was literally 50ft away from Breakfast Club Studio in New York City. So I already had the whole vision and the whole plan. I'm like, it's gonna be dope. Angeli's gonna go do her own thing. You know, we can rotate guest hosts for a year. And that gives us the opportunity to bring so many, you know, so much different talent through the room. Y' all came and y' all guest hosted for a while.

[Drea Nicole]

We had a ball.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, we had a good time, you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Know, and I was just like, yo, let things fall where they may. Like, you know, you won't even have to decide who should be in the room. God will decide that for you. You just gotta make sure that you got all of these different people, you know, that end up coming through. And we ended up with two individuals, you know, and that was always the plan. It was always the plan to where, you know, when. Well, let me step back. It wasn't always the plan for us to be a four man group. It was for us to get another co host. But, man, Lauren was so dope, you know, and she has a senior news producer background coming from tmz. That was just something we was already looking for. We were looking for that position. And it just so happened that she came in and did, you know, a phenomenal job at both. And it's kind of like she's just there with something. That's what I'm saying.

[Drea Nicole]

I know that's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's God. That's why they always say, you know, you can have a good plan, but your good plan isn't always God's plan for you. Right.

[Drea Nicole]

Do you still consider yourself messy? Cause, you know, they be like, you messy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think we all, man, we all messy.

[Drea Nicole]

I love to.

[Lex P.]

I think everybody messy. We always say we hate people that try to be like, if it's not about God getting some money or my kids, you wasting time, then you wasting time. I don't participate in gossip. I feel like people are. Everybody gossips with they friends.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It can be all those things. Yes, we love gossip. That's why everybody like having a microphone in front of their face. We love to talk, okay? And it's been happening. It's been going on since the beginning of time. You was doing this since elementary school. Okay? This is what we do.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

So messy. I guess I'm no messier than the next person, you know what I mean? I like some good tea, you know what I mean? If you got a I love tea.

[Lex P.]

I love a nice little silk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who said what? You know me, I like a kiki, right?

[Drea Nicole]

I love a kiki. My favorite thing is when like Draya or Shay, they like send me a headline. I be like ugh this is juicy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My favorite thing now. Cause I've been around for so long. I was born in 1978 so you know. And I used to work with Wendy Williams. I got with Wendy Williams in 06. There's so much stuff Wendy said over the years. So much stuff she told me privately and publicly. I can't even say privately cause there's nothing she said privately that she didn't say publicly that I've seen come to fruition in this entertainment business. You know what I'm saying? It's like stuff from Clive Davis to Diddy, all of this stuff she been talking about. So that's the wildest thing to me. Cause I be like man I've heard a lot of stories about this business. So what else is really true?

[Drea Nicole]

And you know what I think things I said this on I have another show called Love Lexp and I said this on Love Lexp. I said we need Wendy back to fight the crime that has been going on. Diddy was running amok. Why? Because Wendy wasn't here to report about it. People used to Be in hiding about the shit that they was doing. Because they knew Wendy was gonna get on air and say it all, how you doing? And spill all your teeth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Plus, it was a different era back then, though. You gotta think that wasn't the under surveillance era. Like every. We're under surveillance now. Everywhere you go. You might as well just think to yourself, yo, you probably being recorded it in some way, shape or form, or somebody's watching you. Somebody's, you know, paying attention to you. Cause I always say everybody's got their own little reality show going on. And we're all extras in it. You know what I'm saying? So you guest starred in somebody's reality show. And all you was trying to do was get through the airport.

[Lex P.]

I always feel like I'm on camera. You cannot convince me that it's not hitting cameras everywhere.

[Drea Nicole]

No, somebody watching you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why you gotta be careful with all them niggas, Lex.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, you see what I'm saying now?

[Drea Nicole]

See now why am I in it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Lex P.]

So another thing about Breakfast Club, it's always some controversy, some interesting moments on the show. We have to touch on this. Cause you just brought Wendy up. So we have to talk about one of the most recent interesting moments when you had Dame on the show and he said, Wendy Williams is your og. She is, though, as an insult. But we was over here too.

[Drea Nicole]

Like, how is he? And I was mad. Cause I don't play about Wendy. I'm a Wendy Williams.

[Lex P.]

Is that an insult? This is a media icon. This is a legend. If we're talking about people who was really doing they thing when she was at the top and she was in her prime, she was that girl. So how is that a bad thing for her to be your og? And then also, I just want to touch on too, how you always just keep your composure in those type of situations. Because I feel like that's what adds to making people even more mean.

[Drea Nicole]

Ooh, he was stiff.

[Lex P.]

And you just have a certain level of composure that I aspire to have stoicism.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Plus, I've been in worse situations. Like, I've had guns pulled on me and been sitting there just like that, you know? Cause the reality is somebody got you. If you sitting in the backseat of a car and somebody pull a gun on you, what you. Nothing you can do at that moment.

[Drea Nicole]

It's like, oh, well, I'm begging for my life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I'm not doing that.

[Drea Nicole]

I'mma do something. I'm begging. I'm a begging.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whatever happens happens in this moment. But all I'm saying is I've had worse. I've been in worse environments. I've been in worse situations.

[Lex P.]

My mama talking about, they'll still shoot you.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's true, though.

[Lex P.]

Even if you beg.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. If that's what's supposed to happen, it's supposed to happen. But I've been in worse situations, so. So somebody yelling, screaming, calling me gay, saying they wanna fight. It's like, all right, okay. Yeah, I've been in worse situations than that. What was the first part of that question you asked me?

[Drea Nicole]

Talking about Wendy being your og.

[Lex P.]

About Wendy being your og.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wendy is my og. And Wendy is a media icon. There's not too many people in black media who have had the success that Wendy has had. Like, you know, and not even just on radio. I was just having this conversation. When you think about daytime television, and correct me if I'm wrong, I can't think of any black woman who's had a long of a run on TV is Wendy. Other than Oprah.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, for sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wendy was on for, like, I think, 14 years or something.

[Drea Nicole]

A long time.

[Lex P.]

And my daddy used to love. That's how I know men be a little messy. Cause my daddy used to.

[Drea Nicole]

I'm telling you, my mama over there laughing.

[Lex P.]

Cause she know my daddy used to love to watch Wendy Williams. And she used to be the one that used to be like. He just loved to watch that show. He loved watching all that gossip.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And men don't nobody gossip. I think men gossip just as much as women.

[Drea Nicole]

They do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They just call it building. You know what I'm saying? We building. You know what I mean?

[Drea Nicole]

They love it. They love it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all gossiping.

[Lex P.]

They do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But Wendy is my og. Like, she plucked me from South Carolina. I was in Columbia, South Carolina, doing radio.

[Drea Nicole]

You know, Columbia is small. It is very tiny. We had a show there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Drea Nicole]

On our first tour. Was it our first or our second one?

[Lex P.]

I think it was the second tour. Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all remember where.

[Lex P.]

Mm. I don't remember what menu it was for where. I think it was a comedy club. Yeah, back then, we doing comedy clubs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Okay.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I used to be posting content online, and, you know, she was syndicated on the station that I was on. And so Hot139 in Columbia, South Carolina, with Breakfast Club is on there now. And so I was just posting my content online, and she heard a couple of my interviews, and she actually reported on a couple of my interviews that I did. And so she knew who I was. So when she came to the market, like, we just showed her that good Southern hospitality. You know, we was picking her up. This is before Uber. So we was picking her up, taking her around, you know, getting her drinks, getting her weed, whatever she needed.

[Drea Nicole]

I know that's.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how we even formed. Formed a relationship.

[Drea Nicole]

So how is Wendy doing now? Like, I know y' all still keep in touch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I haven't talked to her since my birthday. My birthday was June of last year.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I haven't talked to her. She called me on my birthday. I haven't spoken to her since then. But she was doing. She was in a better place. And she had somebody who I really adore. Her name is Gina Lisa. Gina Lisa is like a caregiver, basically. And she helps the elderly or people who end up in, like, those homes or those guardianships. Like, she helps them, you know, maintain their dignity. Or, like, you know, if you don't want to put somebody that you love in one of those situations, she can have it set up to where you're basically a caregiver at home. Like, she's helped my family in a lot of ways, right? And so she was the person that I connected Wendy with to help her, you know, get out of her situation. So even the moving around, you got to see Wendy doing last year, that was because of Gina Lisa. And then, you know, I guess her and Gina Lisa parted ways, and Wendy kind of went back into the same situation. So I don't know where that's at right now. It seems like she's starting back at square zero.

[Drea Nicole]

Damn. I was hoping we was gonna get a Wendy comeback.

[Lex P.]

Me too. Cause when all the Dee Dee stuff started happening, Alex was like, oh, my God.

[Drea Nicole]

Where is Wendy?

[Lex P.]

This is when we need Wendy.

[Drea Nicole]

We need her to fight the diddler. She is the only one who can save us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know what's so funny? We had dinner last year, and I remember Wendy saying to us, and Lauren LaRosa was there. She could attest to this. Wendy said, I think I'm in this situation cause of how I used to talk about people.

[Drea Nicole]

Ooh. Oh, my God.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She said that? And I was like, what you mean, like karma? And she was like, no, like God. And I was like, I ain't never heard Wendy mention God a day in my life. But she said, like, you know, like God. You know, I think God has me in this situation. Cause how I used to talk about people. And that was just like, wow. You know, eye opening, you know? Exactly. So it just made me Feel like, you know what?

[Lex P.]

Let me be a little less messy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

For real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, you just don't know. Like, I don't feel like I've ever been as messy as Wendy.

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because, like, I'm just an opinionated person. So I'll tell you how I feel about something. I'm not trying. I don't care. I'm not trying to pull you out the closet. I don't care who you fucking like. I'm sorry, Mom.

[Lex P.]

No, it's okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's fine.

[Drea Nicole]

The way I talk around Ms. Barbara, I done be saying I'm sorry all day. She done hurt at all.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm not doing that. But I can't sit here and act like words don't hurt. There's people still mad at me for jokes I said to them 15 years ago. So I get it.

[Drea Nicole]

I think there is a line, though, because like I said on my show, I do the Hot Topics and celebrity gossip, but I like to do it in a way where I talk about the headline, I crack a few jokes, and I move on. I'm not getting too, too deep in it because at the end of the day, you have to remember these are still people. You know what I'm saying? And there's a very thin line like that. A lot of times people cross and it gets real, real, real, real ugly. Like, a lot of the people that I see that do the same type of content with the gossip. It's like, you don't have to be nasty and just tearing people down constantly. That's why Meghan took that lady to court.

[Lex P.]

Absolutely. Which is interesting. And I think that it's going to set a precedent for a lot of other celebrities to sue people in the future, because she actually got vindicated and she won.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh. Cardi set that precedent. Oh.

[Lex P.]

With Tash.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And my homegirl Bonang from South Africa, she did the same thing. Bonang is like a superstar in South Africa. She did the same thing. She sued a blogger, I think it was for a defamation suit as well. And she won. I haven't seen a blogger win yet. But you said something. That's very important, man. These people are human. At the end of the day, they are. That's something you don't realize. Right. Like, I remember being home in South Carolina, looking at all these different celebrities. Used to see them on World Star and stuff like that, and they didn't seem human. And you would see these rumors about them, like, oh, they're in the Illuminati, or they sacrificed seven hamsters to get to where they are. Right. And you would be thinking in your mind, like, yeah, these people must be doing something evil to get to where they are. But that's only because you don't like the position you in.

[Drea Nicole]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody ever wants to admit that. Nobody ever wants to admit that jealousy and envy is a real thing. You don't even gotta be a hating, jealous, envious person. It's just a natural feeling that you get when you see somebody in a position you dream of being in. And sometimes it can be so hard and so difficult where you at. You feel like you'll never get there. So you, like, there's no possible way that person got there by just believing in God and, you know, working hard.

[Lex P.]

Especially if at one point they were in a worse position than you currently. So you be like, how did they crawl theyself out of there? And I can't get out of this situation I'm in.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, it's interesting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly. So you know when you two things are gonna happen, you're gonna have your own success and you didn't do anything nefarious to get there. Right. You just worked hard, you believed in God, you believed in yourself, and you got the way you supposed to be. And then now people are talking about you the way you used to look and talk about people. That will change your whole perspective. It'll give you a level of empathy, you know, for these individuals that you didn't have before. And you'll start to meet these people. And when you meet these people and you start actually talking to them and having conversations and seeing their family and seeing their parents and seeing their kids and like, oh, this is just a brother or sister who came from, like, the same type of circumstances that I came from, who had a very unique talent, a unique skill set. They worked hard, they believed in God, and they got to where they supposed to be. Sometimes it's really just that simple.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I think there's a way to report on things and just like, keep. Keep it cute.

[Lex P.]

But I mean, I feel like conversation is a very good segue into our first topic, which is the state of journalism. I wanted to ask y' all because, you know, I feel like it used to be a very clear difference between celebrity gossip and journalism, but social media has blurred those lines. So do y' all think that the state of journalism is, I guess, altered, messed up now because anybody with a phone can break news?

[Drea Nicole]

I. I think so. I always say this. If you come to poor minds or love Lex P. For some serious hard down News, bitch, you already doing wrong. Why are you looking at Lex P? Oh, let me see what's going on in the government today. And you turn on love, Lex P. You got some serious issues. Yeah, so, yes, that line is blurred. I mean, it be people sometimes in my comments like, lex, did you watch and this? No, I did it. Yeah, the fuck no, I did it. I'm here to crack some jokes and be on my way. Now, do I have serious conversations about that with my friends and my family? Yes, absolutely I do. But this is a place where we have a little drink and we have a good time.

[Lex P.]

It's lighthearted banter.

[Drea Nicole]

It's lighthearted banter. Now, I do understand that we have a large platform and we have the power to sway people here and there, but that's exactly what I don't want to do. Like, I'm not here to make life altering decisions for you, you know what I'm saying? So I definitely think that line is blurred. People literally get on Twitter for their news. People ain't watching the news for real no more. And people literally went to school for this and have degrees and political science degrees and can really talk about these things. No, they're like, well, I wonder what Drea think about this.

[Lex P.]

I mean, facts.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, you know the reason that people like yourselves connect with everyday people more than journalists? Cause I think sometimes these journalists, as you said, they go to school and they kind of just learn how to become robots. They forget how to be human. And so they're not like giving an opinion, which you're not supposed to do. I guess if you're an actual news commentator, you are supposed to just deliver the facts. But if that's the case, you can't get mad at the people that other folks are genuinely connecting with because those people are human. Like, you know, they're expressing real human emotions in real time. Especially in this social media era because of the X's and the Instagrams and the Facebooks and everybody can go live and everybody got a podcast. So people are expressing real, genuine feelings in real time and people are having connections to that. I see the news reporters get mad all the time. I see the journalists get mad all the time. I see the political pundits get mad all the time. It's not our fault you're not entertaining. It's not our fault that you've been around for so long that you decided to just be robotic about everything. And then I watched the political pundits, they just be so like tied to whatever party it is that they represent, that they not speaking the way the people are speaking.

[Drea Nicole]

I agree.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm from Moncks Corner, South Carolina. I was home all last week in Charleston and Moncks Corner in Columbia.

[Lex P.]

No, we was there for trouble queen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm on my dirt road. Like I'm minding my business. I'm talking to real people so I don't ever lose that. So the conversations I have are from the perspectives of like what real people in the street are telling me, what real people are feeling. I think sometimes you can be so on your high horse as a journalist that you ain't been down to touch the people in a while and you wonder why the people ain't connecting to you and why the people are gravitating towards, you know, just people that feel like human beings to them, they're not journalists.

[Lex P.]

No facts. I feel like people have to touch grass. I think that's the good balance that Lex and I have as well. We went to school and we have mass communications degrees so we definitely know how to be journalists. But then we just regular everyday people and we like to make it light hearted and fun and speak about things in a way that the normal person can understand.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't go to college. Yeah, I was selling crack.

[Lex P.]

What?

[Drea Nicole]

No you wasn't. My crack yard did not go off. I would have never cashed.

[Lex P.]

I feel like you done said that before and I always be thinking you capping.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was never, no, I was not no big time drug dealer in no way shape before. But I used to sell what you used to call quarter spoons and it was 7 grams. You would pay $250 and you would get 7 grams of rock and you would cut it up and you would try to at least cut it to where you're doubling your money. So I know that's right. $460, $480, something like that. So I was never no big time drug dealer.

[Lex P.]

You was selling at work, you was in the kitchen cooking?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely. No, I wasn't cooking.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, I was like, you know how to cook crack?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I could cook it on a spoon.

[Drea Nicole]

What a skill.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I could cook it on a spoon. I couldn't never like I was never going broke. I.

[Drea Nicole]

That's right.

[Lex P.]

But you can take it back to your roots if you ever need to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, hell no. Something has really gone wrong in life if I have to go back to selling crack. But you know, I went from, I went from the streets of Moncks Corner to being in the radio station because I Was just looking to do something positive in my life, and to the point that both of y' all just made. My daddy used to always say to me, if you don't change your lifestyle, you gonna end up in jail, dead or broke, sitting up under the tree. And when you start to go to jail yourself, and when you start to see people around you actually get killed, and when you start to see people that you used to grow up, you know, like, idolizing, in a sense, actually just sitting under the tree, broke, not doing nothing with their life, you like, oh, my daddy telling the truth. So I was just like, you know what? Let me start doing just positive things, because I believe in this acronym called peace. And it's positive energy activates constant elevation. So I just wanted to do positive things. So I was working in the mall. I was working at a clothing store in the mall called Demo. I did telemarketing. I worked at a flower garden. I was just doing all of these different hustles.

[Drea Nicole]

Like me, that is Dre a hustle, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Word up. I was doing all these different hustles just because I did not want to go back, you know, to the street. And then I was, you know, like most young black men in the hood, I wanted to rap, right? The people who I.

[Drea Nicole]

You was driving bars, you know, can you say, oh, my God, can you send us your demo?

[Lex P.]

We want to hear it.

[Drea Nicole]

Do you remember a bar that you used to rap that was like, I killed it. You know, it's a part of her own. What you mean you don't remember?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. You know why? Cause I sucked. And I'm gonna tell you why. I knew I sucked. I sucked because whenever I would go in the studio, I couldn't never catch the beat.

[Drea Nicole]

Dang.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, and I had a. My mentor. His name is Dr. Robert Evans. You tried to rap, too?

[Lex P.]

If I did, I probably couldn't catch.

[Drea Nicole]

She don't got a lot of rhythm. I don't got no rhythm.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My mentor, Dr. Robert Evans, he owned the label. And I remember him just telling me one day, all right, listen, you suck, okay? But you got a good ear for talent, and you damn good at that radio. That's what you need to focus on. So you're gonna be an ANR for the label, right? Y' all remember. Y' all even know what A and R's are.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You gonna be an A and R for the label, and you gonna focus on radio. And that's what I did.

[Drea Nicole]

So do you feel like in that moment, you might have projected on safaree when he was rapping and you was like, nah, that ain't it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I'm just. I just know what whack rap sounds like.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And because I used to do it right, so. Oh, my point. I used to get on the radio. When on the radio, I didn't know what I was doing.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nobody taught me. I didn't do college radio or anything like that. So I always say the best thing that I had when I first started with radio was not knowing how to do it. So the only thing I could do was be myself.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I would. I would be coming from Monk's Corner, sometimes drunk, sometimes high, and just getting on the air talking. No, not off crack. Off weed.

[Lex P.]

Oh, my God. I feel like he would have a little.

[Drea Nicole]

I wish he would have less cheats.

[Lex P.]

If he was doing the crack.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And so I would answer phone. I would just be answering the phones and talking to people, like, just regular. And so that was different than what everybody else was doing. And that's always been my mind state. Just, man, show up and be yourself.

[Lex P.]

I know Charlamagne wasn't doing crack.

[Drea Nicole]

He got his side, too. It don't matter. You can see some functioning crackheads now.

[Lex P.]

Being that you so crack, you could.

[Drea Nicole]

Probably eyeball a crackhead. Is there people in the industry, like, they're on crack?

[Lex P.]

Like, I know they on something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Lex P.]

But coke and crack is different.

[Drea Nicole]

Different coke because crack is whack.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Crack is fried cocaine.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, crack is fried.

[Lex P.]

Crack.

[Drea Nicole]

I like fried.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It is. That's all you're doing. All you're doing is taking the coke, adding a little baking soda to it. You know what I'm saying? Frying it up.

[Drea Nicole]

Come on now, Chef. Baking soda. I got baking soda. Chef Charlotte.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can definitely see. I can, man. And. And going to therapy, I can see when somebody's dealing with real mental health issues and having an episode and ain't nobody intervening. Like, we've seen that quite a few times.

[Lex P.]

I do want to touch on that because I feel like you're one of the very few black men in the industry that is always advocating for mental health. Why is this so important to you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean. Cause it just helped me. I'm the type of person, like, if something has benefited me in any way, shape, or form, I just want to share it with people. And plus, when I started talking about it back in 2016, like, people thought I was joking at first. Like, I'm going to therapy every day at 3 o', clock, and it was like a joke. It'd be like, people would call in like, all right, Shaw, man, I know you're gonna be at, you know, Friday at 3 o'. Clock, but then after a while, people like, wait a minute, something's different. I see something, you know, changing a little bit. And it was because of, it was because of therapy. So it was just for me when I did, you know.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Started to talk about it and express, you know, dealing with anxiety and dealing with bouts of depression. Man, so many other people started coming to me having conversations about it. Like, you know, you know, women will come up to me saying their husband started going to therapy because of me or their brother started going to therapy because of me. And so I just realized it was just something that was, you know, bigger than me. Yeah, you know, that's when I ended up starting my non profit which is called the Mental Wealth Alliance.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what we want to do is we want to provide, you know, free therapy to like 10 million people over the next five years.

[Drea Nicole]

That's amazing because we do talk about mental health a lot because I think in our community we don't take that stuff serious. I didn't realize what anxiety really was until I got older. Cause I didn't know what was going on with myself. I didn't know what seasonal depression was. I really didn't understand it until I did my own deep dive and I had to get into therapy after my mom passed. So it's like I didn't even understand the process of grieving. You don't understand a lot of stuff when you just never talk about it. Like that was I had a very close relationship with my mom. Growing up. But, like, talking about depression and stuff, like, I didn't even know depression was a thing. Cause they make depression look like a certain thing. Like, it's like, oh, that's only something. Like, the emo kids are doing. Like, and being sad and doing all that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And like, you don't wash. You stop shaving.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. And it's like depression looks like so many different things. Depression can be somebody being overly happy and showing up for everybody and just trying to stay busy and doing so many things, and you don't even realize they are struggling on the inside.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Staying busy. As a response to trauma, in a.

[Drea Nicole]

Lot of kids, it is, yes, 1,000%.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People be trying to run from theyself, but you can't run from yourself. That's the other thing, too. That's another reason I started to talk about it so much, because it's just like, I wanted to encourage other black men to stop running. You know, like, you don't gotta run from yourself. Like, you know, we all got a bunch of unhealed trauma that we haven't dealt with. Stop. Take the time for yourself. And that's part of, like, right? Like, self care. Like, I hate people who take better care of material items than they do their own bodies and brains. You know what I mean? Your rim's cleaner than you. You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P.]

I think people like to think that. A lot of people like to think that nothing is wrong with them. Like, it's the acknowledgment of realizing, okay, maybe this is why I do this. I think sometimes people just want to think it's like a quirky thing about their personality. Like, a lot of people have adhd and being busy all the time is a response to that. But you're walking around undiagnosed, so you don't even know that you have adhd. You've been having this your whole life? Since she was a child. I found out from my therapist that I have adhd, but I found out, like, two years ago.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I probably had adhd, too. But back when I was young, they just wanted to put me on Ritalin. They just thought I was bad.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Little badass little boy.

[Drea Nicole]

My daddy said he was on Ritalin. They was like, stay away from facts.

[Lex P.]

Facts. They was on Ritalin when we was kids. But yes, it's like, it's even in small things. Like, I get distracted easily. Like, I'll be about to send a text to somebody, then something happened, and then I'll forget to respond. And my therapist was Like, I think you have adhd. And she, like, did this test on me and I found out that I did have it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got to take your brain back. Even what you said just now, I think a lot of that just has to do with technology. Technology is just a scratch list now.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You be thinking about one thing and then you go to your phone for something. Next thing you know, you're down a rabbit hole. Hole of something else. You forgot what you were supposed to do.

[Drea Nicole]

You on tik tok trying to figure out how to deep fry turkey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

That happens to me all the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got to take your brain back.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I wonder what's riddling now?

[Drea Nicole]

Wouldn't that be whatever it is they.

[Lex P.]

Popping it for recreational purposes?

[Drea Nicole]

Isn't that what's the one that the college kids always think? Adderall? Is that the same thing?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know.

[Drea Nicole]

You know, I wonder, is it like rebranded? I think that's what it is.

[Lex P.]

It probably is.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P.]

Cuz we don't hear riddling anymore.

[Drea Nicole]

Hmm. But I do wanna say, though, I think that also when you see people on the Internet and they're talking, stop diagnosing people in the comments. I hate to see that. They be like, oh, he's autistic. Oh, girl, you got ada. Shut up, girl. Cause they be in the comments doing that to me. This lady wrote a long. Do you remember that comment?

[Lex P.]

I do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This lady autistic.

[Drea Nicole]

She said I was autistic. Adhd, not high function. Lgbtq. She gave me all the Alphabet charlamagne. I said, I'm just a bitch that used to smoke a little crack. And mind you, she's never smoked crack.

[Lex P.]

A day in her life. Lexi's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I smoked it once.

[Drea Nicole]

You did?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no.

[Lex P.]

You smoke crack?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, it was cocaine and a blunt of weed. But I didn't know that.

[Drea Nicole]

It was kind of like a good time to.

[Lex P.]

But they had a name.

[Drea Nicole]

We Happy New Year's. For real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was, though, I'm not gonna lie.

[Lex P.]

It was good.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was. I would do it again by accident, but I remember that high.

[Drea Nicole]

Sometimes you have a high that's so good. You be like, I understand it.

[Lex P.]

But that's crazy, though, because at least you were able to be like, ooh, this was too good. But I'm not gonna do it.

[Drea Nicole]

I'm go back.

[Lex P.]

Most people would do it again, and that's how they end up falling down that hole.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know what it was? I thought it was weed. I was Just looking for whatever that weed was. I didn't realize until much later in life, like, oh, that's what that was. Cuz you can, you know. You know the smell. You know what I mean? So I was like, oh, that was. I used to call them woolers.

[Drea Nicole]

Y' all got some names on Florida.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They used to call it Boom.

[Drea Nicole]

Y' all got some names on y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay.

[Lex P.]

Used to be the name of the episode.

[Drea Nicole]

But, yeah, we got.

[Lex P.]

Y' all got some names on y'.

[Drea Nicole]

All Call him a game. Please stop. I'm so sorry. We were supposed to get to you a long time ago. A long time ago. What are we drinking?

[Lex P.]

Oh, shit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is like Andy Cohen.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes. We got a whole setup. Yeah.

[Lex P.]

So for our guest today, Mr. Charlamagne. Tha God. We gonna keep it. We gonna spill the tea.

[Drea Nicole]

That's what they've been doing.

[Lex P.]

So we gonna keep it warm for you. We have a tea. I know he likes green tea. So I wanted to kind of play into that. I made. Y' all know I love to play in syrups. I made eggs, so I have like, some cardamom, some green tea, some vitamin C, a little bit of chamomile in there. I made that into a syrup, like a honey agave syrup. We added some tequila, some banana liqueur, and a little bit of lemon juice. And then this is served warm. Or if you want to shake it up over ice, really good. But since it's cold outside, we're going to keep it warm like a little hot toddy. And then we garnished it with a dehydrated orange.

[Drea Nicole]

Love that.

[Lex P.]

Cheers to you.

[Drea Nicole]

That sounds really, really. Todd and I didn't even name it.

[Lex P.]

This is the Black Effect Effect, period. We love that child.

[Drea Nicole]

You ever smoke crack?

[Lex P.]

I will do it.

[Drea Nicole]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I know you would. Cut it out. I like that.

[Lex P.]

Besides the way Chicago. I am from Chicago. But I would do anything once, and I'll do it on my death. On my deathbed, when I'm about to go out. Just give me that. Give me that Croc.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why, though? There's a million things you should be thinking about when you on your deathbed. Crack isn't one of them.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P.]

I don't know where my mind will go. I feel like it'll just, like, really out there.

[Drea Nicole]

Flying up with that pipe in your hand. Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Smart people learn from their own mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others. Crack has taken people.

[Lex P.]

That's why I never wanted to many. I had crackheads in my family.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, not you. Telling it all.

[Lex P.]

I ain't say who it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The only plus I think there is about crack is that I ain't seen a crackhead die yet when I.

[Drea Nicole]

That's a plus for me. Give me three of them. See?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Maybe I'm dank.

[Drea Nicole]

No, for real.

[Lex P.]

It be giving him immunity.

[Drea Nicole]

I see y' all ain't right. Well, this episode is being brought to y' all shout out to our people at Taylor Port. That's why we over here cutting up. Y' all know what I keep in.

[Lex P.]

My cup for New Year's Eve, we needed something light, sparkly, and perfect for a Countdown toast. So we brought out the Rose Resolution Spritz.

[Drea Nicole]

This spritz starts with Taylor Port for that sweet, rich base. Then we brighten it up with rose prosecco, a little lemon zest, and a cute strawberry garnish.

[Lex P.]

It's refreshing, it's uplifting, and it feels like exactly what you're supposed to sip while setting your resolutions or breaking a few. The Rose Resolution Spritz for toasting, manifesting, and stepping into the new year with the sparkle.

[Drea Nicole]

And I shouldn't have drunk that champagne.

[Lex P.]

I'm talking about immunity. If you making them a mortal immortal.

[Drea Nicole]

But they immune to diet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, same thing. Yeah, that's what I thought she meant. When you're from the south, you understand what a person meant. I understand what you meant.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, we know what you meant.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's dope, though. I like that touch over there.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. Okay, what. What we got?

[Lex P.]

So, as y' all know, this is a Taylor Poor sponsor episode. So y' all know we got to get into our poor decision of the week, which is basically where we just talk about something that we did this week that we was like. That wasn't really the greatest idea.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P.]

So, Lex, what was your poor decision this week?

[Drea Nicole]

My poor decision this week was I had friends giving at my house. You did? Now, we had a ball, right? Everything was good. Everything was fantastic. Okay. We had Brussels sprouts. Draya made the green beans. Busing. We had Mac and cheese. We had jerk chicken. We had the whole night, the whole spree. We had appetizers, hors d', oeuvres, deviled eggs. They was tearing them deviled eggs up. Right? Me, too. But I decided to start drinking right before I started cooking the lamb chops. I ain't never cooked no lamb chops before.

[Lex P.]

Charlamagne.

[Drea Nicole]

So I put them in the oven, and I didn't cover them up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Drea Nicole]

And they got tough as fuck in the bottom of my feet. God damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It.

[Drea Nicole]

You can throw it through a window now. They was still eating them. They said they was good. Cause they was seasoned. They was nice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who was you feeding them to?

[Drea Nicole]

My friends.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nice women. Other women. Okay. I thought it was a guy just lying.

[Drea Nicole]

It just wasn't giving tender reason.

[Lex P.]

I was with me.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I'm saying? But now I know how to cook lamb chop because I learned. And I hope everybody at the house learn from my mistakes like you said.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So let me ask you a question. This is the New Year's episode, right? They're not gonna think it's crazy that you said you had friendsgiving. Like, damn, how long y' all gonna have friends giving?

[Lex P.]

Yeah, Lex, you should have said, well, you know what?

[Drea Nicole]

God damn it. We had friends giving last month. Y' all know what the hell I meant.

[Lex P.]

Y' all know we be recording in advance.

[Drea Nicole]

Shut up, girl. And don't say nothing in the comments about it. Happy New Year. And Charlamagne gonna call it out, too.

[Lex P.]

They probably wouldn't even know these.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, they wouldn't know this. Y' all in here with all the New Year's Eve, though.

[Lex P.]

I mean. Yeah. Fact, we do got a whole lot disco ball on the table.

[Drea Nicole]

Disarray. Okay, what was your poor decision? Either one of y'? All?

[Lex P.]

What's your word? Charlemagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Poor decision. I don't think I made any poor choices. I mean, my poor choice is probably boring. Like, I probably ate something with some dairy in it, and I shouldn't have had no dairy in it. So it gave me the runs and a little spicy. Gave me the runs and a little pimple. I ain't do nothing crazy. That's your rebel, you know what I'm saying? I ain't do nothing crazy like some mozzarella.

[Drea Nicole]

Ooh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I didn't know what it was. I haven't done nothing crazy this week.

[Lex P.]

Okay, that's fair, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thus far.

[Drea Nicole]

That's a good life.

[Lex P.]

That is.

[Drea Nicole]

That's a good life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Plus, I believe in choices. So if I made a choice, it's a choice I made that wasn't a poor decision.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, you know, that's true.

[Drea Nicole]

What about a poor business decision that you've made?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I've made tons of those.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I mean, that is the beauty of entrepreneurship. The beauty of entrepreneurship is everything not gonna hit. Like, I've thrown. I've thrown way more things against the wall than things that have. That have actually stuck, you know? But I think people act. People never want to tell you that part. They never want to tell you like, you know, all of the decisions they made that didn't go right as far as business. Like, you know, we had a dispensary in Newark, you know, last year, but you can't beat the open air market in Newark, you know, so it had to close down. Like, that's the game, right? You know, but me and my wife own crystal franchises in South Carolina. Those are doing good, right? So it's just like, you know, it's just either or like when you got a bunch of different hustles and you got a bunch of different, you know, revenue streams coming through, some going to work, some won't, and you got to be able to take the good with the bad.

[Lex P.]

You win some, you lose some.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what they say, and that's a fact. What's your poor decision?

[Lex P.]

No, it really ain't nothing that bad, to be honest. My poor decision is okay. I found out about this market out here in Atlanta that you could go to and you can get, like vegetables and stuff chopped up that's already, like, ready for you to cook when you get ready to cook your Christmas dishes, your Thanksgiving dishes, whatever. So I found this place and I decided to go there the day before the holiday. And I stood in line for 45 minutes for some turkey wings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why was that a poor decision?

[Lex P.]

Because I shouldn't have waited to go the day before. I should have went like a few days before. And it probably wouldn't have been as crazy because basically it's like multiple different meat markets in there, and it's multiple different vegetable markets and produce markets or whatever. So it was only one stand that still had turkey wings. And the line was outside the door. I had to wait in line 45 minutes for six turkey wings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was the food worth it?

[Lex P.]

It was worth it.

[Drea Nicole]

I didn't have the turkey wings.

[Lex P.]

My wings was busted.

[Drea Nicole]

They did look nice and tender. They was real juicy.

[Lex P.]

They was. Shay had some. They was juicy. They was good. And this is my first time making turkey wings, too. So I think it was, you know, it was for the greater good, but terrible decision.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is a great segment, but I think y' all should do it. When y' all really made a poor.

[Drea Nicole]

Decision, you don't think that was a poor.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't think either one of.

[Drea Nicole]

Y' all made while you're supposed to be cooking.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's normal. No, that's what everybody does. They poured him a glass of wine, drink. You know what I'm saying? You just was absent minded. That wasn't that liquor that made you forget that lamb was in that oven. But it was something else. Nope. You started running your mouth when I smoked crack. Yes, that's the one. Real poor decision.

[Drea Nicole]

But she ain't do that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That is true. That is true.

[Drea Nicole]

We moving on up. I'm doing a coke. Lace, blunt next time.

[Lex P.]

But charlamagne, isn't that a good thing? That's a testament to our growth. We don't be making super poor decisions every month. No word of when we first started this podcast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm telling you, I had to think about it too. Like, I'm like, nah, I don't really.

[Drea Nicole]

That's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't really make more choices. Not on purpose.

[Drea Nicole]

Right. We living on the righteous path now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P.]

That's the poorest decision I made this week. Honestly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

And we don't wanna talk about the trials and tribulations of black people all the time. This is not a Tyler Perry movie.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Drea Nicole]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tyler Perry.

[Drea Nicole]

Hey, I never gonna cast us now. I love a Tyler Perry movie. Now. Y' all know I love Tyler Perry.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People be fronting on Tyler Perry like Tyler Perry.

[Drea Nicole]

The Testimony. Hands down, the drama with Taraji Henson. Remember when she held down that broke.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Ass nigga with Taraji P. Henson? Like, he got about 10 with Taraji.

[Drea Nicole]

Well, when she held down the broke ass nigga. And then all of a sudden she finally left him. And then he got money and remarried.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't think I saw that.

[Drea Nicole]

And then she was, like, on the boat and was, like, trying to kill him, but they ended up shooting her and she died. No acrimony.

[Lex P.]

It was so good. I have a few, actually.

[Drea Nicole]

The family that prays.

[Lex P.]

Diary of a Mad Black Woman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Classic. Classic.

[Lex P.]

The family that. Family that prays. And then that one with that man where he said, ashtray, bitch.

[Drea Nicole]

Woo. Woo. A bar.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Daddy's Girl is classic.

[Drea Nicole]

Daddy's a girl. Yeah. Oh, fall from grace.

[Lex P.]

Fall from grace on family.

[Drea Nicole]

That praise. When she said, my son is a Cartwright. I said, you thought you ate that bitch. Only for that white man to leave her.

[Lex P.]

To leave her high.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that's the one with Sinai leaves in there.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, yeah. That's classic.

[Lex P.]

That's classic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's classic. That's classic.

[Lex P.]

What's your favorite?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Daddy's Girl with Idris Elba. With Idris Elba. And Gabrielle Union.

[Drea Nicole]

He was taking Gabrielle Union.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God, man. When his daughter. Oh, my God. When his daughters can move him. Yo. Idris killed that. Like, you could feel the pain when his daughters come over and tell him what happened. He was like, God damn it, I gotta get him back to jail. Cause I got to kill you, nigga, right now. You saw him thinking about it and contemplating. He was like, I got to do it. I gotta go back to prison right now.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, my God.

[Lex P.]

But why would they put that as the background music?

[Drea Nicole]

Cause it's like looking at man ass. I was born by the river. We a little.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why did they play that song?

[Drea Nicole]

I don't know. Oh. Cause change is gonna come.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, change. Oh, that's right. There you go. There you go. No, Lex is right, cuz. Change go, cuz. The whole neighborhood changed after that.

[Drea Nicole]

You're right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. That was like when Dino Brown got shot in New Jack City. They finally took out the. The riff raff.

[Lex P.]

I'm telling everybody to see they ass whoops.

[Drea Nicole]

And you know what? And I don't like the backlash that Tyler Perry gets. Because honestly, he does the same thing as. What's his name? Ryan Murphy, that does all. They do the same thing, except Ryan Murphy just have him in Jean Paul Gauthier. That's the only difference.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is how you know niggas ain't never satisfied. Let me tell you why. Because Tyler Perry literally does everything we say we want black people to do. He's independent. He's an entrepreneur. He don't answer to nobody. He got his own studio. All he does is cast black people and keep black people working. All he does is tell black stories. Now, you may or may not like the stories. It's artist subjective, so you can have that conversation. But other than that, he is the blueprint to what we want black people to do and black people to be.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I agree. I'm unofficially on Tyler Perry's street team. I'mma always promote for him.

[Lex P.]

Me too. Because I always say this. As unrealistic as people say his shows and his movies are. It's entertained. But you was entertained, wasn't you?

[Drea Nicole]

Why is his movies always be on.

[Lex P.]

The edge of my seat every time?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't be thinking they unrealistic either.

[Lex P.]

But people say that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I do hear people say that, but I've seen some wild stuff in my life. So, like, you know, I don't think it's unrealistic at all.

[Lex P.]

One of my favorite shows is Sisters. I always. I love Sisters. It's so good. Because it's. No way four bitches be going through all of this every week. They always going through something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you gotta look At Sisters. Like a comedy. It is like, don't approach it like you watching a drama.

[Drea Nicole]

Like something serious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If you approach it like you about to laugh, you gonna have a good goddamn time.

[Drea Nicole]

What was the movie with Lance?

[Lex P.]

Every week it's some drama.

[Drea Nicole]

What was the movie with Kim Kardashian in there and Lance Gross?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Tim K. Was in the Tyler Perry movie.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes, she was, but not with Lance Gross. Now, that temptation made me mad because it was like, finally, she gonna leave her boring ass husband for a fine ass, rich ass man. We're gonna give him aids.

[Lex P.]

You never seen that movie with Jurnee Smollier? Yeah, Smollett.

[Drea Nicole]

Smollett.

[Lex P.]

Smollett.

[Drea Nicole]

Jessie Smollier.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I knew what she meant. I knew what she meant. I knew who she was talking about.

[Drea Nicole]

Y' all knew what she meant.

[Lex P.]

Y' all know I be having no problem.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jussie's sister.

[Drea Nicole]

Do you think Jussie did it?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did what?

[Lex P.]

Okay.

[Drea Nicole]

Lied.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

Do you think he lied after watching the documentary?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I thought he. I mean, I thought that when I first heard the story. None of that story, you know, the.

[Drea Nicole]

Only thing that made me quit. Cause I like to believe people who say they're victims. But when I was watching that documentary and he made it back to the house and that sandwich was intact and he was still able to eat his Subway sandwich, my investigative journalism went off.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I respect him, though. Yeah. You know why I respect him? I respect people who double triple down on they lies. You know what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. I'mma give up. After I get caught. I'm like, you got me, bitch. You got me, bitch.

[Lex P.]

I not. I'mma take it to the grave.

[Drea Nicole]

I'mma keep lying. And if I done lied already, you.

[Lex P.]

Might as well keep going.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I respect it. And by the way, we know. Yeah, we just don't care.

[Drea Nicole]

Damn.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that be the crazy thing about it sometime. Like, we think people care more than they do. Like, man, we don't care, man. Grab a drink. We know you lied, man. We don't give a damn.

[Lex P.]

And they made a whole big thing out of it. I feel like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because he made a whole big thing out of it. He did.

[Drea Nicole]

He did. It was so crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The documentary made you all. I didn't watch the documentary.

[Drea Nicole]

No, it did make me change my mind. I was just kind of like. It kind of confirmed, like, the holes in the story that I were questioning. It made me be like, this is why I was questioning it. And it's still like, you're kind of not true. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

[Lex P.]

So he been getting some acting gigs lately though. He came back from me. Cause I seen him on Amazon prime myself.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, not Amazon.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, he didn't hurt nobody. I mean, the only person he hurt in that situation was himself. Yeah, it was like, how you gonna cancel him? He did some stupid shit there. So.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, you know, he just knew he was finna be the next Brad Pitt.

[Lex P.]

Okay.

[Drea Nicole]

He said, I'm coming, I'm coming.

[Lex P.]

I want the world to know.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay, we gonna move on to the. Oh, you wanna do the second. Okay, go ahead.

[Lex P.]

Okay, so for topic number two. Cause I feel like this is funny cause we talked about it a little bit earlier in the episode and I feel like people do always try to say this about you. They always be trying to like insinuate that you're not mean, masculine or that you are very feminine. So I wanted to talk about the crisis of fragile masculinity.

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[Lex P.]

Why these days are men so afraid of being called feminine? Or do they think, I guess they think that certain things that they do will make them look like they're not a man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that's it is. It is an interesting topic because even when I hear people try to use use woman as an insult.

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, oh, you acting like a girl. Yeah, you acting like a, you know, it's like, so you think women aren't strong? Is that what you're saying? Like, you know what I mean? Cause I my whole life I've seen the women hold it down a lot more than the men have. Right. Because you know, and the way I was. I grew up like, my dad did his thing, my uncles did they things, but they also was out here wiling and cheating and all types of stuff. And, you know, was leaving. You know, the wives have to fit the bills in a lot of ways. So, you know, I watched my mom hold down a house full of four or five kids while my dad was, you know, in and out of rehab, trying to get it together. Right. I watched my grandmother, you know, be the only person living in her house, you know, working as a lunch lady every day and holding it down for all her grandkids and her kids. So it's just like. I don't know why people like to use women as an insult. Guys that do that make me feel. And I'm sorry, Mom. They like pussy but don't like women.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, that's true. I've really noticed that. Like, they just don't like women. They don't look at us like people. They look at us as objects.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Objects.

[Drea Nicole]

So you're supposed to do this for me. You're supposed to turn me on, or you're supposed to cook for me and do things for me. But a lot of men do not view women as humans at all. They don't.

[Lex P.]

It's a lot of misogyny. I mean, I feel like it's always been. But these days, especially with social media, I feel like. Like it's definitely been highlighted even more.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And what makes a person act like a woman? Like, how do you act like a woman?

[Lex P.]

Well, I. For me, it be the gay comments. Like, oh, that gay. Nothing makes a man gay, in my opinion. Sleeping with a man, sucking dick.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There you go. Same. We all said the same eating. But she. Dre said sleeping with a man. I said sucking dick.

[Drea Nicole]

That's all different, folks.

[Lex P.]

But unless you're doing one of those things, that's the only way that you're gay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but even who doing the bending? They say, that's who doing the bending.

[Drea Nicole]

Tyler.

[Lex P.]

He gave us a one line.

[Drea Nicole]

Doing another one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Even with that. That's not an insult to me either. It's like, okay, if you are gay, what's wrong with this person being gay? Yeah, And I know some gay guys that'll beat your ass.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P.]

I'll beat your ass.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Serious.

[Lex P.]

Cause I leg press 245.

[Drea Nicole]

Y' all know that's good.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, Women strong, too.

[Drea Nicole]

But I do feel like using gay as an insult is so, like, what are we doing here? It is like, that's like a 1995 insult. Like to me it's just like it's very shallow and it's a low hanging fruit, I think.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I just came up with this theory recently. I think men that want to know if another man is gay are attracted to that man. I agree. Cause it's like when you see a bad girl, right, and you like, like damn, yo, I wonder if she's single, you know what I'm saying? So you gotta say something to her or try her in some way just to see if there's some rhythm there. So you just wanna throw it out that yo, I think he's gay. Is that what you hoping for?

[Rob Gronkowski]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

Honestly, when men are extremely, extremely homophobic to like a point, it's like, why are you so affected by people being gay when they're extremely homophobic? That kind of brings up like a little like what's going on with you and your feelings on the inside. It always feels like projection to me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Their uncle might have sucked them off.

[Lex P.]

When they was now see, but he ain't wrong because it's so many men. It's actually frightening the amount of men that you can have conversations with now in adulthood that will say things so nonchalantly like, oh, I lost my virginity at 12 years old. I lost my virginity at years old to a, a, to a 21 year old woman.

[Drea Nicole]

How old was she?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She was in her 20s. I was eight.

[Drea Nicole]

Is, is she jail?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, she not.

[Drea Nicole]

No. We're going to lock that niche up. She need to be, she need to.

[Lex P.]

Be cuz I know she geriatric now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She, how old is she now? She probably in her 50s.

[Lex P.]

Oh, okay.

[Drea Nicole]

Maybe we can still lock that up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If I was eight. Damn. No, yeah, she way old. She probably like in the her 60s.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, 67. That's terrifying though because that shouldn't have happened.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, she was, you should have been protected. She, she was a, she was a member of my family. She's not a member of my family no more.

[Drea Nicole]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She was removed.

[Drea Nicole]

I hope so.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She. It was a divorce.

[Lex P.]

Oh, okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was.

[Lex P.]

You know they be saying twice removed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I used to actually say exactly what she was. But nowadays lawsuits be so crazy. But she used to be married into my family and then she got divorce and she used to let me suck her breast and used to, oh my God, give me felio.

[Drea Nicole]

That's horrifying though.

[Lex P.]

At 8 years old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was 8 years old. And the crazy thing about it is when you a young man, you, you, you Enjoy it.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So it's kind of confusing, but then you like, man, I don't want her touching on me. So I used to have these little firecracks. Remember the little firecrackers used to throw and pop. So I start. I remember sitting on my grandma's porch, and whenever an adult would leave, she'd come. And so I just started throwing them at her. Get away from me. Get away from me. Get away for me.

[Drea Nicole]

And that's kind of sad, though. You have to use fireworks to protect yourself. I'm trying not to laugh only because I'm imagining him throwing them at her, fighting for his life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I told myself that the reason I didn't want her to do it is because I didn't like the smell of her Jerry curl.

[Drea Nicole]

She had a Jerry curl? This was a 8. Jesus.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like 87, 88.

[Drea Nicole]

But honestly, all that. How did that affect. Affect you, like, once you became older? Like, do you feel like it had.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It made me a people pleaser. And the reason it made me a people pleaser is because when I. When I made her stop, she started like, calling me ugly. So she'd be like, oh, you ugly. You got a big nose. And she. To the point where she would tell my grandma, his nose is swollen. Look at his nose. And so my grandma would put, like, this cream on my nose, Right?

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, my God, shut the up. No, but still thinking about. Not the. This is drama.

[Lex P.]

Not trying to segue into another topic, because that is a very serious topic that I think we don't never touch on is a lot of the time black men in our community and how they were like, molested as we didn't realize it was that. But also that too, like growing up in black families and like, you're older people in your family trying to make you think that stuff was like, wrong with, like, your skin tone your nose.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Lex P.]

Because I remember and I. I've talked about this before on the show. My best friend, her grandma, when we were growing up, like in high school, in the summertime, you know, you get a tan and stuff. So in the summer we would get a little darker and she would be like, y' all need to go bathing. Epson salt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Lex P.]

And scrub y' all stuff as if that's gonna like, scrub the brown off. But mind you, her whole family was like, light skinned and she was probably like the dark, the darkest person in the family. And then of course, I'm her friend. I'm. I'm dark skinned too. So her grandma just Used to be like, y' all need to go bathe in Epsom salt because y' all already borderline.

[Drea Nicole]

She was like, y' all need to go bath borderline.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I grew up loving melanin.

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And cheering. When Nino Brown stabbed, you know, the pretty motherfucker from the bank in the hand, New Jack City, like, that was always my experience.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, that's cool. Did you have experiences like that? Cause even with my mom, she would always tell me, like, about her experiences growing up because, like, four of them were dark skinned, right? Or three. Three were dark skinned and then three were light skinned. So she would always tell me, like, the differences in the experiences that they experienced with their family members.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what? I never experienced none of that. Like, even growing up with my friends, because obviously all my friends were white. I really did not see all this red bone, yellow bone, brown. I'm like, why? And people still to this day, she's.

[Lex P.]

Not a yellow, she's red.

[Drea Nicole]

She's. No. Just talking to people in general, like, trying to categorize what we are by our skin. We're niggas, we're black.

[Lex P.]

I agree.

[Drea Nicole]

I never heard that till I got to college. And I thought it was the craziest and weirdest thing. Like I said, being around my family, like, my aunts and my uncles are dark skinned. My mom was like, she was a little lighter. You know what I'm saying? But I never categorized people like that. You were just either black or you weren't. So I think that that's crazy that still to this day. I saw a TikTok literally yesterday of this man just, like, going off like, y' all need to know the difference between red bone and yellow bone.

[Commercial Announcer (Gronk's voice)]

Why?

[Lex P.]

Why? When white people see us, Nigger, no, that's a fact.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's how I be feeling about the Caribbean conversations. It's like, man, if you Jamaican and you from Atlanta and y' all both walking down the street, all the white men see is two black people.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes, that's it. That's it. So I just think that it's crazy that that conversation, that dynamic is still going on. Like, go ahead, Ty.

[Lex P.]

She my mom, God bless her soul, used to make me wear bleaching cream.

[Drea Nicole]

Really?

[Lex P.]

Like, I remember being, like, second, third grade, because I was always the darkest of my siblings. But I remember being young and it used to burn, so I used to hate putting it on. And it wasn't until I got older that I realized, like, what it actually was. But she was trying to lighten my skin. What was it and Nadiola.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, I don't know.

[Lex P.]

And it used to come in my booty. It used to come in a little jar, but it used to burn my face. I think I'll be a little dark.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

How y' all know?

[Lex P.]

Cause you see it in the mirror. All you gotta do is bend over.

[Drea Nicole]

Charlamagne. You ain't never looked at your booty hole?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I've seen a booty hole, but I ain't never looked at you.

[Drea Nicole]

You never looked at yours. You never was in the mirror. Like, that's health stuff. You supposed to check all down there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What the hell? I ain't never had a doctor say you should check your booty hole periodically.

[Lex P.]

So it's more of an aesthetic thing. Like you want it to match the rest.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, like after you get waxed and everything.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, well, you just want it to match the rest of your skin tone. But realistically, like, you know, your private parts are darker than the rest of your body.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Nah, I don't want the booty hole to match the rest of the skin tone. Cause I want to know where the booty hole is. Cause you gotta think if you in here.

[Drea Nicole]

Locator.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Cause if you in a room and the lights ain't really lit. You know what I mean? Like, you gotta be able to see the contrast.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't be sitting there licking the cheek thinking you eating ass.

[Lex P.]

But I feel like if the lights ain't lit, it's gonna be harder to find.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then if it matches. Cause you know what? If you going, click the booty, click the booty. Click the booty from the back. Like you can't do. You know what I'm saying goodbye to?

[Lex P.]

My mama is over there crying.

[Drea Nicole]

I'm finna start throwing the fireworks on this conversation. But no, let's move on.

[Lex P.]

But no. Cause we didn't even address what Ty said. That's crazy. But I feel like that's traumatizing, too. And that's something that happened to a lot of people growing up.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. Yeah. I think that was the one thing I will say. Like, my mom protected me a lot from growing up. Like, I didn't realize. Cause I actually did go through a lot with, like, racism in my.

[Lex P.]

Cause you grew up around a lot of white people.

[Drea Nicole]

Cause I grew up around a lot of white people. But I give kudos to not only my mom, but my close friends, their parents as well. Cause they didn't play about me and they didn't play that shit. Like, I was very blessed to Have a. I don't wanna say this, but, like, a certain type of white people that were around me that helped raise me, like my best friend Lindsey. Shout out to Lindsey. Her mom, Renee, she always just made me feel like a part of them. So I never really got that feeling different or separate till I moved to a big city and things like that. So I really didn't experience much until I got older and I realized, oh, this lady was mean to me and treating me like this because I was black. Like, I was very unaware and oblivious, like, very ignorant to all that stuff.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you grew up, like, it was more about class than race.

[Drea Nicole]

I think it was a little bit mixed or both, see. Cause I grew up very. I won't say very wealthy, but I was blessed. I didn't have, like, an average house. I grew up in a very big house, pool in the backyard, that type of life, car when I turned 16, all that stuff. So I got treated a certain way because my family had money. You know what I'm saying? But it was still like, you still black, though. And I didn't realize that till I got older. And I'm thinking of certain situations, I'm like, oh, she probably did this, or she was treating me like this. And then, not only was that I was the little black girl getting invited to all the slumber parties, because me and my friends, we were the popular ones. They couldn't understand why their daughter wasn't there, but the little black girls at the slumber parties and things like that. So it's a lot of situations I look back on, I'm like, oh, this is what's going on. But like I said, all of my parents, I mean, all of my friends, parents, my homegirl Jasmine, her mom Susan, they were so protective of me. And I didn't realize that until I got older. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why I like that conversation. Because, you know, I feel like a lot of it is. It's behavioral, right? Like, I grew up on a dirt road, and we were, like, in the middle, kind of all the way to the end. We were all the way to the end. We were the second to the last trailer and then eventually house on the dirt road. So all the white people lived on this side. So it was like, you know, my man Thomas, who's still my friend to this day, and his family lived over there. And it was another white family. We didn't really interact with them too. But then all the black people lived on this side. But it was just all about Class. But like my dad and Thomas's stepdad, Jimbo, they literally would be the two guys drinking beer, minding their business. See the white guy drive by with the Confederate flag waving, and both of them would be like, look at them crackers. You understand what I'm saying? So it wasn't about, you know, oh, just all white people are inherently racist or all white people are inherently white supremacists. It was just like, no. So we are these black and white people who live here and we're poor. And then that's a whole other type of white person over here. And guess what? It was the black people who were more middle class and had means, they were a whole other type of black person, you know, living over there. So to me, it's just all about behavior. More so than, you know, what we are, what your parents used to do.

[Drea Nicole]

My mom, she worked for an oil and gas company. She worked for Conoco, so she was like higher up doing all that stuff. But also my dad passed when I was very young, so he left her like a whole bunch of money. So we were. I was born in California. So after he passed and she got all that money, we moved back to Orange where she grew up at. What he used to do, he drove. He worked for a gas company. He used to work for Shell.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, okay, okay.

[Drea Nicole]

So he was like, she moved back to Orange, like, built us this big old house on like an acre of land. Cause when my neighborhood, when we first moved in, there was like, no neighborhood. There was like no neighborhood, really. So when we built the house, it was like, like, oh my gosh, who was this black lady that came back and like built this house?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They probably thought y' all was selling crack.

[Drea Nicole]

I know they thought we was selling crack, but. But yeah, like I said, I was really sheltered. And I didn't realize it until I moved to Houston.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, you didn't realize what it was like. I. I feel like I always grew up around that growing up. Cause I mean, I went to private school my whole life. But I seen the, the classism, I seen like colorism, all of that stuff at a very young age. Age. And then especially when I went to high school, cuz I went to high school in River Oaks in Houston, which is like the most. The richest neighborhood in Houston. And went. That's where Kelly Rowland went.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lex P.]

She did. Kelly rolling went to my high school. She went to Lamar. But yeah, so like, even at my high school, I seen it and it was just. I don't know, it was a lot like Just realizing from a younger age how they treat us. And especially because at my school, most of the black people that went there, none of us lived in the neighborhood. We were all trans folks first. They already kind of looked at us like, y' all not supposed to be here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why was you in private school your whole life? This is so interesting. My.

[Drea Nicole]

I don't know my why.

[Lex P.]

I. I think my cuz. My mom and my dad just. She wanted me to go to a Catholic school.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you.

[Lex P.]

So I went to Catholic School from PreK3 all the way through eighth grade. And then my mom actually wanted me to go to a all girls Catholic school for high school. But I begged and plead. I was like, please let me go to public school, please. So she wanted me to go to a public school that was over by her job that she approved of because she worked in River Oaks. My mom is a nurse, so she used to work at Texas Children Pediatric Medical Group. And it was right over there by my school. And she was like, oh, yeah, you can go here, because I'm not gonna be that far. And I could drop you off every day.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you.

[Lex P.]

And it was hard to get.

[Drea Nicole]

Funerals be long, huh?

[Lex P.]

And my school was hard to get into, too.

[Drea Nicole]

My hospital, some Catholic funerals.

[Lex P.]

Oh, the Catholic funerals. I feel like Baptist funerals be longer than that.

[Drea Nicole]

How we talk about a funeral?

[Lex P.]

We was talking about school.

[Drea Nicole]

Well, my bad. I just had to think about it. I'm like, damn, them funerals be long as hell.

[Lex P.]

Actually, Catholic funerals be short. But we do have to do the rosary.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, that's the. That be taking a long time. God forgive me. But yeah, get them out the purgatory.

[Lex P.]

Like, I've seen both sides. Like, I definitely. I grew up around black people the majority of my life, like pre K through eighth grade. But then when I went to high school, it was like shell shock. Culture shock.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. Interesting. One thing about us, we don't get off off topic.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's good, though.

[Lex P.]

We were supposed to be talking. We were supposed to be talking about fragile masculinity.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We did, though, didn't we?

[Lex P.]

A little bit. But we was also supposed to talk about why do men think showing affection to other men is gay?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's all right, hold on now. Tell me what affection. Find affections. Okay.

[Lex P.]

Like hugging your friends, telling your friend you love him. Even with sons, like, men think that they shouldn't like, love on their sons. Kiss them, tell them they loved him.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don't agree with that. I believe you should do that. I don't. I don't think. Do men have a problem with that? Yeah. Really?

[Drea Nicole]

It was somebody that was in the blog, I think, maybe. Was it Tom Brady? I don't know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no, I think you're talking about. This was back in the day, but it was 42 Doug.

[Drea Nicole]

No, it wasn't 42 Doug. It was like a. It was an athlete. Like a high profile athlete. And he would, like, kiss his son or something. He kissed his son and they took a picture of it. His son was like 12 or 13. They were like, why are you kissing your son?

[Lex P.]

Lil Wayne kissed Birdman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

God damn.

[Drea Nicole]

You better put some respect on Lil Wayne now. He ain't rolling up. And then Lil Wayne got on the.

[Lex P.]

Song and said, damn right I kissed my daddy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said that on one of his parts. Now, see, that's why I said, define affection. Cause that's when I feel like it goes a little too far.

[Lex P.]

Well, I do, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Unless that's. But if that's. But you know what, though? If that's how you feel about that person and that's what you choose to do, who am I to judge?

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's not how I kiss guys that I love.

[Lex P.]

Would you kiss your friend?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No. Like, no, I wouldn't, but they did.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. Well, I think there's a thin line, too. Like, for me, I guess this is like white boy humor. White boys think that being gay and kissing on each other and they think that shit is hilarious.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They don't even call it gay when they do it.

[Drea Nicole]

They don't, but it's a very strange. Yeah, bro.

[Lex P.]

This is my bro.

[Drea Nicole]

It's very strange. Like, they be thinking. Thinking it's so funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

They be teabagging each other when they sleep.

[Drea Nicole]

Like. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

That's what I'm saying. And they think it's hilarious now that it's a little weird. If I wake up and a titty in my mouth, we fighting, bitch.

[Lex P.]

You mean a ball of a.

[Drea Nicole]

No, because I'm a woman. I'm saying, like, if I wake up and it's a titty in my mouth, we fighting, bitch. That ain't no ha ha here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's crazy, though.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So I think you can show affection to your friends, but me, as a woman, I'm not kissing my friends. I hug my girlfriend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your mom's had enough. She was like, the titty in her mouth. The titty. Waking up with the titty in your mouth just did it for us.

[Lex P.]

She had to pee.

[Drea Nicole]

I'm not.

[Lex P.]

But Lex kissed me one time, so she's lying.

[Drea Nicole]

That was a long time ago.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You were drunk.

[Drea Nicole]

We was both drunk.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What happened?

[Drea Nicole]

That was when we.

[Lex P.]

Nothing. Nothing happened after.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Look, where was y' all at, though? Where? What made you do it?

[Drea Nicole]

We were just drunk. It was when we first started hanging out, too.

[Lex P.]

I was not just drunk. It was this man at the bar, and he was trying to talk to me.

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[Drea Nicole]

Oh, and we told him you my girlfriend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That ain't gonna deter him. That's gonna turn him on more. Now whatever he was gonna spend, he ready to spend double. He was like, oh, both of y'.

[Lex P.]

All. But to be honest, he stopped.

[Drea Nicole]

He did stop. And you know, I'm kind of.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm a big bitch. So what kind of kiss was it?

[Drea Nicole]

It was just like, I'm trying to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Figure, was it a peck? Did you slip a little tongue?

[Drea Nicole]

We were kissing. We were kissing. Like a little tongue.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, Lex, slick as fuck. Lex knew what she was doing. Lex was like, nah, opportunity. No, you wanted to kiss your girl. I really wasn't.

[Drea Nicole]

I really wasn't. It was just funny in the moment. But I'm saying like it was in that moment and it was funny. Like we thought it was funny. But now like I'm not kissing my friends. Like that was like a one off situation.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

Draya is probably like my only friend that I've kissed like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, like that. So it was affectionate? It was like, no, you said like that. But I do think men should be affectionate with.

[Lex P.]

Not like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Though, not like that.

[Drea Nicole]

Like, you can hug your friends, tell them you look.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hugs.

[Drea Nicole]

You can compliment your friends. Oh, you look handsome. I like that outfit. You look nice, my nigga. Like, you can say things like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, there's an interview. There's an OG Breakfast Club interview we did with Juice wrld. I don't know how many. I don't know if Juice WRLD came to the show once or twice. Might have just been once. For whatever reason, I was trying to make his homeboys hug him in the room. I was like, man, you better hug your homeboy. And I don't know if I said something like. Cause you just never know. Yes.

[Drea Nicole]

That's crazy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But that's what I mean. Like, that's why you shit, you know, Tell your people that you love them. Tell them that you value them, that you appreciate them. You know, Give your brother a hug. You know, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

[Drea Nicole]

Right.

[Lex P.]

Remember you was gonna tell your friends you look good. My niece.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't got no problem doing that. Especially. Especially when I meet. Thank you. Especially when I meet them.

[Lex P.]

No, I'm saying these. I do like your.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said she was like that shit you got.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, he said that. He said. Yeah, that shit. Clean up.

[Lex P.]

That's all right.

[Drea Nicole]

I do like your jacket, too.

[Lex P.]

Shout out Charlamagne.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you very much.

[Lex P.]

Do you be telling your friends.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Hell, yeah. Especially when I meet, like, older men now. When you meet men that's in, like, they, you know, late 50s, 60s, 70s, they still look good. Yeah, you motherfucking right. I be like, God damn, you look good, brother. Because I hope to maintain and be looking like that, too, when you get to that age.

[Drea Nicole]

Cause, you know. Cause you and Morris, twinsies, they said.

[Lex P.]

You was Morris Peanut. I mean, walnut.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what they say. You know, I. I think the only reason I might stop doing that.

[Drea Nicole]

Aw.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Is because I hate when people be like, what's up, twin? And they ugly. Oh, oh, don't be saying that shit.

[Drea Nicole]

And you feel like Torres probably be.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's like, damn, man. Like, I hate, like, you know, like, all that. What's up, twin? Like, don't be calling me twin. We don't look nothing alike.

[Drea Nicole]

Stop it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You ugly. I don't want.

[Drea Nicole]

I don't think Morris thinks that everybody.

[Lex P.]

I don't think he think that either, though. Cause you're not ugly. And I do think if you with one eye.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He did say he Looked like one eye. He did say he got mistaken for me once.

[Drea Nicole]

See, that's what I'm saying.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

He said that on. I think it was Jennifer Hudson show.

[Lex P.]

See, it's the bald head.

[Drea Nicole]

It's the bald head, the nice skin. You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P.]

I feel like bald heads just give matures.

[Drea Nicole]

It does give matures.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, everybody doesn't. God bless certain people with the type of skull to have.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Some of these brothers, they gotta go get the man unit. They gotta go get the.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, they don't got that.

[Lex P.]

The transplant.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. When they start losing their hairline, they can't get a bald head. Like, LeBron James would look crazy bald. Yeah. Remember Miguel? When Miguel first came out, go back and look at.

[Drea Nicole]

He was bald.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, he was bald. Yes. Man.

[Lex P.]

I remember this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Drea Nicole]

Whenever he kicked that man in the head, everything changed for him.

[Lex P.]

What?

[Drea Nicole]

Didn't Kevin Gates do that too? Well, he did it on purpose. I think allegedly Miguel did it by accident. But Miguel tried to jump over that sea of people. He took that cowboy Carter. Boop, boop.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was a leg drop.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, my God. So bad.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You didn't know he was Mexican before you knew it then, cuz that was a straight luchadol wrestling move that he did.

[Drea Nicole]

High school, we was in Mexico City.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See what I'm saying? Them luchad don't play.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, my gosh.

[Lex P.]

But I feel like everybody got a twin, cuz everybody say everybody look like people. People say legs look like people. Me too.

[Drea Nicole]

They always say, you, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who say look like?

[Drea Nicole]

Guess. I don't.

[Lex P.]

He.

[Drea Nicole]

I don't think he gonna guess it. It's like it's two people that you get a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Two people.

[Drea Nicole]

Can I tell them? They always say Jada Waa and Summer Walker for her.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Jada Waa and Summer Walker. Yeah, I know what summer look like. I can't think of what Jada look like.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I think she. I think her and Jada do favor. I think they look like they could be like cousins.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Both of y' all have very unique looks.

[Lex P.]

Really?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. And it's hard for me to say that y' all look like anybody because I always hear guys mention y' all as bars.

[Lex P.]

Oh, wow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You like? Like, like. No, for real. As bars. There's certain women that are bars. And I hear, like, y' all pop up in a lot of group chats. You know what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

I knew that. You know, really interesting. You know, I think it's because we talked about this.

[Lex P.]

Guess who they say Lex look like?

[Drea Nicole]

He ain't going to guess it. Especially now, cuz I don't have no makeup on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Kevin G. What?

[Drea Nicole]

Twin. Twin. Now when I see Kevin Gates, my father twin, he gonna say, what you said up for blowing up the phone.

[Lex P.]

You see me calling her?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Who?

[Commercial Announcer]

Who?

[Drea Nicole]

They say you look like they are Tony Braxton. That's.

[Lex P.]

I.

[Drea Nicole]

That's the only one I ever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Braxton?

[Drea Nicole]

Yes. They always say I look like a Braxton sister or a Braxton sister. That's the only one I've ever gotten. They never say anybody.

[Lex P.]

But to be fair, when Lex first moved to Atlanta back in 2017, she had a very short haircut. Like she had, like a fade kind of. And then she had, like, curls at the top. And I feel like when she had that short haircut, I could really see it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

People should just say, y' all pretty and keep it moving.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, that's true.

[Drea Nicole]

But you know what's crazy? I think the reason I'm surprised that people say the bar, I mean, probably dream, is probably like, oh, well, yeah, but. But you too. No, no. Well, the reason I say that is because growing up, though, since we were talking about that earlier, I was never, like, a girl who, like, I didn't consider. Now that's what I'll say. I didn't consider myself fine or attractive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When'd you get there?

[Drea Nicole]

When I moved to Houston and I was around niggas. You know what I'm saying? Cause, like, growing up, it was always like, that's interesting. Yeah. Cause growing up, they was always like, oh, you're pretty for a black girl. Now that's something I. I did experience. Oh, you're this for a black girl. You're this for a black girl. And I'm like, what the hell does that mean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But you know what, though? That just means you're pretty. And those white individuals, especially probably the men, just didn't know how to acknowledge a black woman being beautiful.

[Drea Nicole]

Right, Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So you gotta say for a black. Like, what you mean for like, black people look beautiful.

[Drea Nicole]

Exactly. So I always felt like, oh, all the white girls were, like, up here. And then it was like, they made me feel like, oh. But when the black girls start, I guess I'm like, right here.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But then you got to Houston, then I came home with all the baddies, and you like.

[Drea Nicole]

And I fit right on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm competing. Word up.

[Drea Nicole]

Exactly. I wasn't. I got the crack, the cream, and I floated to the top. See what I'm saying. So I was like, okay. But I think that's where my. When I started getting confidence about myself too. But I'm so glad that I grew up that way. Cause I think that's what helped my personality develop, you know, like a lot of outside of Draya. I ain't gonna lie to you. Them bad bitches, a bump on a log.

[Lex P.]

They don't be having no personal.

[Drea Nicole]

The bad, the real, real bad bitches.

[Lex P.]

They be a little boring.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, brother. Shut up, girl.

[Lex P.]

But you know what's interesting?

[Drea Nicole]

For real?

[Lex P.]

I got that too growing up. Even in the black community though.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P.]

Like people would always tell me, oh, you pretty for a dark skinned girl. Yeah, for a dark skinned girl. And like even guys I dated would say that stuff to me when I was younger. Not so so much now, but when I was younger they would be like, man, you the only, you the only brown skinned girl. You're the only dark skinned girl I ever dated. Because you just so fine. Like, as if that was a compliment.

[Drea Nicole]

Right?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

See, all I ever liked was melanin. Melon. Melanin.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Like, like, you know Godiva Chocolate goddesses.

[Drea Nicole]

I know that's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Was that song Wu Tang had ice cream. When they say French vanilla butter pecan chocolate deluxe. Yeah, I wanted the chocolate. Del.

[Lex P.]

Eating a lot of our. A little bit out of our age.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's true. I know, but I'm just saying I've always liked the dark skinned girls. Like, no disrespect to the light skinned girls, but they got a little pit bull to them.

[Lex P.]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, you never seen them pretty pit bulls with the, like the little, the green eyes. Oh my God, just a little bit.

[Lex P.]

Our resident makes me just a list a little.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh my God, just a little bit.

[Lex P.]

I thought Shea was Mexican when she first met.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, why?

[Drea Nicole]

That's funny. But yeah, that's why I say it's just interesting to me now. Cause like, of course I know I'm beautiful, I know I'm attractive.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

But I've always been the kind of person, like, I approach people and I'm like, we gonna have a conversation, we gonna joke around. That's always been my first thing that I acknowledge about myself. So now when people are having these conversations like, oh, we rate Lex this and that. I'm never supposed to be in these baddies conversations at all. I never.

[Lex P.]

But you a baddie though.

[Drea Nicole]

I understand that. But I never wanted to be in the conversations is what I mean.

[Lex P.]

And, and so what I was saying is I feel like when you have a. Once you have a certain body type, they're automatic. Yeah. They're automatically gonna put you in that category. And I feel like we also have to be honest with ourselves about the type of pictures that we used to post back in the day.

[Drea Nicole]

We have.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I was thirst trapping.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, we were. We was.

[Lex P.]

We was.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, I. You know, the thing about the bump on the log thing too, I think a lot of the reason a lot of pretty women don't have personalities is because they. They don't have to have them because there is a such thing as pretty privileged. Like, there's a sense of entitlement that comes with, you know, women that are pretty, like, they just walk in the room and people, like, kind of naturally gravitate towards them and start catering to them, you know, And I think that that, that makes them not have to, like, ever really have a person.

[Drea Nicole]

I mean, that's for men too. Like, extremely fine. Men are like, oh, my gosh. Like they to be the ones making tiktoks and I can't.

[Lex P.]

They do.

[Drea Nicole]

I just can't.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think you need to be a little medium ugly as a man. That's what my girl. My girl AJ always says that. You speak to aj, you know, from the We Talk Back podcast. She always says, you got. I feel. I really do. She says she like her men medium ugly. I feel like you gotta be a little medium ugly as a man or just.

[Drea Nicole]

I just not care about your looks like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, I think you can care about your looks, but I just think you need to have like a little bit of medium ugly like.

[Lex P.]

Or a medium ugly personality. Cause I like cute niggas with a medium ugly personality.

[Drea Nicole]

That's what I'm like.

[Lex P.]

You actually cute as fuck, but you think you ugly.

[Drea Nicole]

Perfect. Yeah. Or you don't care about your looks. Like, I mean, you keep yourself up, but you being fine don't phase you like, you being fine. You're like, okay, whatever. Who cares?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, see, I look at it the other way. See, I'm medium ugly. So. So I like to keep myself up.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, yeah, but this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What y' all supposed to say? You not ugly. This for me, my self esteem.

[Drea Nicole]

But that's why I just said I.

[Lex P.]

Don'T think you medium ugly. Like, I think you're handsome.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Drea Nicole]

That's why when they say you are handsome, though. You are.

[Lex P.]

That's why I think the Morris Chestnut Morris Walnut comparison is funny.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you. I need this. I got a long Day. Got a long day in Atlanta. I need this.

[Drea Nicole]

I'm not gonna lie. That's why when we were getting our chemical peels, were like, we're gonna talk to him about that. Because I think that is. That's one of the things that I think is attractive about you. Like, you keep yourself up. You know how many men we done had sit on his couch? The blemishes, the dirty nails. Nails. Manicure. Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like you got your manicure. Pedicure.

[Drea Nicole]

That's what I'm saying. It's very, very important that you keep.

[Lex P.]

Yourself up as clothes fitting. I know you be getting your clothes, Taylor. Yes, I already know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I get waxed.

[Drea Nicole]

Ooh, where.

[Lex P.]

Where Brazilians.

[Drea Nicole]

Not you be having them legs to the moon, do you?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I don'.

[Drea Nicole]

Legs.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what happened to my legs. You.

[Lex P.]

Was it the screw or the.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I get clean.

[Drea Nicole]

No, that's right. That's great. Ooh, you said I'm bald. I like that, though. I'm mad at that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it's good. Cause you know why? Cause the older I get, the hair down there just was getting rougher.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? And it just felt. It just didn't look right, and it just didn't feel right. And I'm like, yo, this gotta go.

[Lex P.]

I talked about this on the show.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P.]

I found a gray coochie hair.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God. Oh, I got the.

[Lex P.]

I found one one time. And I said it gets gray down there.

[Drea Nicole]

That coochie is straight.

[Lex P.]

Oh, it's gonna stay wet.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it's wise. You got a wise poom.

[Lex P.]

It is wise.

[Drea Nicole]

That coochie done learned a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That poom poom got some wisdom.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. You see, kitty poom poom. Now it's time to get into the bed bow. The bed.

[Lex P.]

The bed.

[Drea Nicole]

Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. Okay.

[Lex P.]

And per usual, y' all know this bed segment is brought to y' all by Salt xo. Y' all know we love some salt xo. I always say I have been using salt exo for at this point, probably about four years now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's that? Lube.

[Drea Nicole]

It's.

[Lex P.]

It's. It's going to get you where you need to be.

[Drea Nicole]

It's feminine wash.

[Lex P.]

But you know, me too.

[Drea Nicole]

So it's just smell good after you wax that booty ho. And you just clean all. It's gonna smell like your booty hole just took a mint.

[Lex P.]

Oh, and it's gonna make it tingle, too.

[Drea Nicole]

Yep.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lex P.]

If you like that. Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

That twerk win gonna smell Good.

[Lex P.]

So what I am. Cause it do be funky a little bit.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Twerk win is crazy. It's twerk win, and then it's the legging win. Like when y' all wear leggings all day long. Ooh, yeah. Then you go home and take them off. Used to call them wolf paint pants. Take them off. It's like, woof.

[Lex P.]

But see, with Saltxo, you ain't gonna have no wolf. And what I love about sodxo is that they have so many different kinds of vaginal washes. So they have the sensitive wash, they have the seedless one, and then they have the non seedless one as well. Personally, I love the seedless one. And I mean, I like both of them. I like to interchange them, but they're really, really good for your vagina. They're going to keep everything ph balanced, you know? Know you need to be balanced after you get off your period, after you have sex. And salt exo is gonna do this.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, that gets it done. I like. I love salt xo. I keep it in my shower. And they got the travel size too.

[Lex P.]

They have the travel size too. So, you know, we don't leave home without it. Yeah, we gonna soft xo.

[Drea Nicole]

See how you like it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I'm saying? So you can give a testament for the boys.

[Lex P.]

Yes.

[Drea Nicole]

All right, so the bad topic today, you've interviewed a lot of people, you know, And I know a lot of times people will pull up, their spouse or their partner will be with them. Have you ever seen a couple and just wondered what their dynamic was in the bedroom? Or have you ever looked at a couple and be like, do y' all really be having sex? Like, there's no way that y' all be. You know what I'm saying? Just be curious about it. So today, it loves to be a.

[Lex P.]

Fly on the wall.

[Drea Nicole]

A fly on the wall, anything. So we're gonna name some couples, okay? And you're gonna say, like, you know, if you were ever, like, what you think about them. Them, if they were intimate or not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This is a new segment. I ain't never heard this far.

[Drea Nicole]

The bed. The bed. However, this is our sex topic.

[Lex P.]

Charlamagne McGay.

[Drea Nicole]

Charlamag. Did you watch the show? See, this is the bed topic. We always charlamagay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lex P.]

Since 2018. Damn.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay. Yes. So let. Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But this particular section.

[Lex P.]

Well, this is a topic.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay. Got you. Okay.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Got you. Got you.

[Drea Nicole]

So I'm gonna skip through some of these couples Cause we not gonna. I'mma name a couple Oprah and Stedman.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't thought about Oprah and Stedman a day in my life. No.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I think? I think people always think that Stedman be laying it down because Oprah just, you know. But I think it's the other way around.

[Lex P.]

You think Oprah be taking.

[Drea Nicole]

Oprah lays it down, and that's why he's like, you know what? We don't have to get married. I won't even speak. I won't even do nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To me, they seem like a couple that just enjoys each other's conversation, you know what I'm saying? Like, they like being around each other, like, you know, traveling together, things of that nature. But they ain't necessarily like, you know, getting drunk, getting high, and, like, going at it.

[Drea Nicole]

I don't think that either.

[Lex P.]

People you least suspect, really. That's what I think. Carson.

[Drea Nicole]

I don't even think that it's, like, crazy like that, but I think Oprah probably is a little more dominant, that's all.

[Lex P.]

I mean, you think she be taking you to.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What's wrong with that, though?

[Drea Nicole]

Nothing. Cause I be taking n through through there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's actually what men want.

[Drea Nicole]

Exactly.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like men want women to take charge.

[CarMax Announcer]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Remember that thing that always go viral? What you talking about? Parking the car.

[Lex P.]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want you.

[Drea Nicole]

You ain't no leader, bro.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm saying. I need you to be the leader in the bedroom. Go be the leader. You know what I'm saying? Okay.

[Drea Nicole]

All right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Let me. Like, I can probably start it off, but at some point, take the goddamn wheel.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, you got to. Sometimes you have to. I don't mind that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause men aren't mind readers, and men really want to please. And women know what it is. They need to be pleased. So guide me, bruh.

[Drea Nicole]

I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that.

[Lex P.]

I'm not either. See?

[Drea Nicole]

See? Who else we got?

[Lex P.]

Draya, Whitney and Bobby. Now, back when they had that reality show I did used to be, like.

[Drea Nicole]

They had that wild crack sex.

[Lex P.]

Crack sex. Probably on another level.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Lex P.]

It's getting in. Studio 54, 1976.

[Drea Nicole]

Time is being had. Yeah.

[Lex P.]

I ain't mad at it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never thought about it, but that probably was. Yeah, that's probably.

[Drea Nicole]

That's probably the crazy, you know, swinging across the bedroom, stopping for an intermission to have some rocks, and continuing on, you know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You don't give Bobby and Whitney enough credit for tearing down the veil that used to be up for celebrity.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying? Because I don't. This generation may not realize it. There was a period where Bobby was the biggest R and B star in the world. One of the biggest acts in the world, period. This guy sold 5 million records off Don't Be Cruel. Like, he was on the Ghostbusters 2 soundtrack. He was in Ghostbusters playing the custodian. Whitney Houston was the biggest star in the world. So, I mean, the only thing I could probably compare it to is, like, Chris Brown and Rihanna when they was initially together, right? But imagine Chris Brown and Rihanna having the success that they both went on to have in being together. That's what Bobby and Whitney was. And, like, when they did the reality show and stuff, it was like, oh, my gosh, people don't gotta be perfect no more. Like, you can be flawed. You know, you can just show up as yourself. When Whitney called Whitney and cursed her out on the radio, it's like, damn, Whitney Houston curses.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, motherfucking right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She from Jersey, nigga. Like, so. Yes. They don't get enough credit for, like.

[Lex P.]

You know, being pioneers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Being pioneers and just tearing down that veil and just showing you that you can just be yourself.

[Drea Nicole]

Whitney kind of read down in a nice, nasty way. Was it Diane Sawyer?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whitney Houston? Oh, no, it was.

[Drea Nicole]

It was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what she said. Crack was whack.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, it was.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She said crack is whack. She said, don't tell. I don't do no crack. Crack is whack.

[Lex P.]

She said crack is cheap.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Crack is cheap.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, cheap.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what it was.

[Lex P.]

It's what it was.

[Drea Nicole]

Speaking of crackheads and crack sex, Chrisean and Blueface.

[Lex P.]

Yuck.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. I ain't never thought about that.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, I ain't gonna think anybody have.

[Drea Nicole]

I never thought about Bluetooth.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What you calling Bluetooth? What you call Bluetooth?

[Drea Nicole]

Cause it's blue. And her, too. The tude.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't never looked at his tv.

[Drea Nicole]

You never seen Chrisean?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh. Oh, you mixed it.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, Uncle Babe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I never knew that was their name. Yeah, she can fight.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, she can squabble now.

[Lex P.]

She ain't gonna go.

[Drea Nicole]

She can squabble. But I'm not gonna lie. I've never thought about that either. I was honestly shocked when she, you know, became pregnant and all that stuff going on. Cause I thought it was just, like, a thing for his show to promote. Cause, you know, Blueface, quiet as it's kept, he was the one that really brought the bad girl stuff. Back?

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

Before they had baddies and stuff. Blueface had like set up cameras in his house and had a whole bunch of girls move into this mansion. And that's what started all the reboot of the Baddies.

[Lex P.]

The Baddies, yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

And that's when the world was introduced to Chrisean. So when they first got together, I just thought it was for. To promote his shit. So no, I'm not gonna lie. I've never thought about. About their dynamic in the bedroom. And he's a little thick now too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I just wanted to register. I've never thought about none of these people's dynamics in the bedroom. But this topic is.

[Lex P.]

It's interesting. I have one for Leg.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay.

[Lex P.]

Tyler Perry and anyone. Because Leg said I think about that a lot. Sleep with Tyler Perry. With the Madea style.

[Drea Nicole]

Absolutely. Still would.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah.

[Lex P.]

Look at my mother face.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I still.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's kind of fire.

[Drea Nicole]

Look. I still think about that a lot.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's kind of fire.

[Drea Nicole]

I like. I'm into a little role play, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I can imagine. I'm gonna have him say, lord have mercy in that little voice.

[Lex P.]

So you don't like real titties, but you like fake titties?

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I do a little fake titty. I like your titties.

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, what is she saying? What is she saying? Dre? God damn.

[Drea Nicole]

I'm kidding. I'm kidding.

[Lex P.]

But with the suit on. This ain't a suit.

[Drea Nicole]

You don't take it off at night.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But with my dear, it wouldn't be about the suit. It's about what's under that skirt.

[Drea Nicole]

I know. That's what I'm saying. I think Tyler working with a little something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Never know.

[Drea Nicole]

That's what I'm saying. I always think about Tyler and what he does in his bedroom. I do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If that skirt and Mr. Brown pop out, you be like, God damn. You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P.]

Mr. Brown pop out with him.

[Drea Nicole]

Ashy. That's when I quit. That's when I quit. But honestly, I would. I'm so interested to see what a lot of, like, extremely. Extremely wealthy, like, once you get in that billionaire. Like, I'm not gonna lie, he's not on the list. But like, Jeff Bezos. Cause you know, his wife is a baddie. And you know, she has a track record. Like, she's always dated men that have a lot of money.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So what do you say? I don't understand what you're saying.

[Drea Nicole]

I'm just interested in what they do in the bedroom.

[Lex P.]

Sexy.

[Drea Nicole]

What do billionaires do in the bedroom?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, you wanna see what. What they dick look like?

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. I wanna see what it's hidden for. And we found a coochie. She got to tie Jeff Bezos down.

[Lex P.]

Sometimes billionaires scare me. Cause I feel like it's giving squid game.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P.]

It's too freaky over there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But y' all do realize what y' all have is priceless, right? Like, you know, it don't matter what your financial status is. Men want a bad woman.

[Drea Nicole]

That's true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Men want the poom poom. Like it don't matter. Like, you women don't even have to be in any financial status to bag a baby.

[Drea Nicole]

That is true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Women just gotta show up and be fine. Fine.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. She got, like, what? She got two baby daddies, three kids, and still pull Jeff Bezos. It don't matter.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cause she got a coochie.

[Lex P.]

Yeah. And it's probably good.

[Drea Nicole]

I know it's good to beg a billionaire word to be on Amazon prime, bitch.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or he just want company. You know, OG Kevin Lyles always talk about this. Kevin Lyles said to me a long time ago, he said, look, I can't tell you to get married, but find somebody to share your life experience experiences with. He told me this 14 years ago. He said, I know where your life is going. We all know what you're about to do. He said, find somebody to share your life experiences with. And I think that's what these billionaires are really looking for. That. That companionship.

[Lex P.]

I think that's success in general. I think that's all success. Is about. Especially, like, obviously, we're nowhere near being billionaires, but just becoming more successful over the years. I think one of the main things that I just want in life is to find some somebody that you can enjoy it with and experience it with and that y' all are equally old.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. And it's going to be tough for y' all because as. As y' all continue to have success, as y' all stars continue to grow. Yeah. Guys are groupies, too. So you're not going to know who want to be with you because they actually like you or who want to be with you just because they like the look that they get from being with, you know, Dre and Lex or two.

[Lex P.]

They be intimidated.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, that, too.

[Lex P.]

You come across a lot of guys like that, too, who. It's like, initially, they like, dating you or they want to date you because they're drawn to the light. And then once they get around, they're like, this is come to a live show.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, they come to a live show and see all the attention y' all get. Yeah, I see all of the guys.

[Lex P.]

I see us on Breakfast Club with you.

[Drea Nicole]

No, you don't got no rich friends you want to hook me up with.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't play that game. The reason I don't play that game is because I don't want to be responsible for nothing.

[Drea Nicole]

I'm not going to say nothing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no, no. But I'm just saying in general, because if things go good, I won't talk.

[Drea Nicole]

To you about it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

If things go bad, then looking at me crazy. Cause it's one thing to have a homie. That's cool, right? But it's another to be like, yo, I think y' all should connect. I don't know what this man be on in relationships. This man might be a terrible boyfriend, and that's okay. We gonna try again, so I leave that alone.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay, that's understandable. That's understandable. All right, y'. All, Let us know how y' all feel about those couples and their dynamics in the bedroom. Okay, now we moving on. Now it's time to. To get into the bop.

[Lex P.]

Hey, the bop, bow.

[Drea Nicole]

The bop. Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all got a real show, you.

[Drea Nicole]

Know what I'm saying? I have cars.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Y' all trying to get that hundred million for real.

[Drea Nicole]

These acts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I saw y' all talking about that.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, we trying to get it. We trying to get it. You know what I'm saying? What do you.

[Lex P.]

I feel like we know the right people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. No, no. For Real. You know what's so interesting? I saw that conversation and I think the reason it hasn't happened for black people yet is just. It's just a numbers game, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, a lot of these podcasts that have gotten these big deals, just simply look at their numbers. I hate when people compare themselves to Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is an anomaly as far as audio downloads and his video views. Like when you looked at the numbers he was doing prior to to his deal with Spotify, it made all the sense in the world why Spotify, you know, cut him that kind of check. Same thing with the caller Daddy.

[Drea Nicole]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, you know, but also the other thing that people don't think about is a lot of these shows are connected to networks. Like Bill Simmons, you know, did his deal with the Ringer. I mean, did his deal with Spotify. He had a network, you know, the ringer. When you look at like Smartless. Right? Smartless is another one who's done a couple of those. They have Smartless media, right. So like a lot of these shows are, you know, also have networks. Even the Call Her Daddy. Call Her Daddy has like three or four shows connected to her as well. And one of them other shows is popping right now. So I just think that it's just a number, a numbers game. And I think it's really just a matter of time.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, and you gotta be careful with those kind of deals, you know. Cause when you. It's funny when you said that I was sitting. I saw you say it on Joe Budden show, and I was watching it and I was just like, okay, I see what they saying. And then I thought to myself, like, you know, I've turned down a deal like five years ago. You know what I mean? And the reason I turned down the deal is because I wasn't willing to do what it is they wanted me to do. And for what I wanted the vision I had for myself. Especially with the Black Effect podcast network. It didn't fit that vision like they want. They were willing to partner with me on a network, but it wasn't like no real ownership or no real equity. So it was more of a vanity place. So, yeah, you might have got this really big bag, but then over the last five years, would I have been able to, you know, assist so many other people? Like how we've done with Black Effect?

[Drea Nicole]

What do you think?

[Lex P.]

We talk about that all the time. Well, I was just gonna say we talk about that all the time. Cause that's like a big thing to me as well. Just if we do end up getting a major deal or let me not say if, when we do, when, when we do, I want to still be able to keep the integrity of the podcast. Like, I want it to still be poor minds. I want it to still be the vision that Lex and I have. And I think a lot of the time when you do sign with these major platforms, they want it to look how they want it to look and then you no longer really control the narrative. And then I was also having, having a conversation with one of our old agents from UTA and she was just basically like, well, because I told her we want to keep majority of the IP and she was like, well, that's going to be hard to do. Realistically.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What?

[Lex P.]

Well, she was like with those, with, with the type of platforms that we want to get a deal from, she was like, I just feel like that's gonna be hard to do, but you can always create more ip. She was like, so you really want IP to be the reason why you don't sign the deal?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

She was finessing your a little bit because.

[Lex P.]

Oh, you think so?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Cuz most of these people are doing, they're doing licensing deals, you know what I'm saying? Like, like most of these people are doing licensing deals and when that, when their term is up, they, everything comes back to them. Like, you know, you, while you might, while you're with that company, you know, they'll have some rights to the ip, but you know, when you out of that deal, your IP comes right back to you.

[Drea Nicole]

I wasn't aware. Does it.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, because I thought you're selling it to them. Like if somebody is giving you, you $70 million, $100 million, I thought you're giving them your IP and then you no longer have any ownership.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, if you, if you, if that's the type of deal you do. You know what I mean? But if you're. And that's the beauty of the space that we're in. Right. Like poor minds can get to a point where you call your own shots.

[Podcast Host (Mind the Business)]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like if I'm coming to you as a company, why would I try to change the integrity of what it is that y' all do?

[Drea Nicole]

Right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I want to partner with y' all because of what it is is that y' all do. Like, you know, the company didn't, it definitely didn't want me to change who I am. They wanted me to be who I am, but it was the integrity of the business that I Was more concerned about. Cause I had a vision. I had a vision, like, I wanna create this Black effect podcast network to where we are empowering all of these, you know, different black creatives and being able to assist all these different, you know, black creatives. That's what I wanted to do. They wanted like first right or refusal. And like, you know, we wanna partner with a poor minds. We're like, oh, we don't really like the content of Paul Minds. I don't want to go through that. I want to be able to say, we want to partner with Paul Minds. Let's make it happen.

[Lex P.]

And that's it.

[Drea Nicole]

That makes sense. What do you think about Netflix getting in on the podcast and stuff now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

With Spotify, it's interesting because I don't look at what they're doing is necessarily podcasting. Like, podcasting is an audio medium that can also be consumed in a video format. But the video format is. That's. It's really something different. Like what they're watching right now is something different as opposed to the experience you get when you're listening. And if you look at a lot of people's, you know, audio, video ratio, the audio numbers still, you know, dominate for the most part. I think it's dope that Netflix is doing it because I think that just continues the. What's the word I'm looking for validity. I don't know if I'm validate. It continues to validate. It continues to validate the podcast space. You know what I'm saying? They bring. It gives validity to the podcast space. But I like it. I don't know if everybody should be taking their stuff off YouTube though. Cause I think if Netflix wants to compete with YouTube, then they should understand why people go to YouTube to begin with. The reason people go to YouTube is because of all the virality, right? Like I might be on Instagram or X or Facebook and see a clip of Poor Minds, and then it'll make me be like, oh, let me go watch the whole. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're Netflix, you should also want that. You should want these shows that you're partnering with to still have presence on all these different platforms. And then just like we do on weekends, or at least me, if I'm home, I might turn on YouTube to watch the whole thing. It could be the same thing with Netflix.

[Drea Nicole]

Interesting. I never thought of it that way. Cause I always looked at it. Like if we did, like, just hypothetically speaking, like if we did something with Netflix, I'm like, okay, this is visibility. You know what I'm saying? But thinking about it too, when people are cutting clips real quick and they're posting it and that stuff goes viral, like you say, even that parking lot clip or whatever, they can clip that real quick. Cause they're just watching it on YouTube and it ends up being shared a lot of different places. A lot of times. Netflix doesn't really have moments like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. That's what I say. Netflix should just allow these shows to continue to have the virality that they're having. Like, so if you are putting out portions of your show and clips of your show, let that go. You know, if anything, just let you know, hey, Netflix put the branding on it. You know, so when people are watching the clip, after the parking lot clip is over, it just says, watch Paul Mine's episodes on Netflix.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like they had. You can't fight the Internet.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

That is true.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You can't fight it. You can only, you know, hope to contain it, I guess.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But me, I would just say continue to let it do what it do. And you're just another space that people come to. The way people go to YouTube.

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

To watch full content.

[Drea Nicole]

I think it's gonna either be, like, really good or really bad.

[Lex P.]

The Netflix thing. Yeah. Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

Like, I think it's gonna be either, like, really good. Like, there's not gonna be any gray area. Cause sometimes when things get introduced, it ruins it. Like, I always think of, like, how they say video killed the radio star. Like when new forms of things start coming along and everybody starts to do it, something dies out.

[Lex P.]

Yeah. Or like, even with, like, MP3s and stuff. Like when we got ipods and Nobody was buying CDs.

[Drea Nicole]

That's what I'm saying. So I'm like, I hope it doesn't make it to where. Like something like, you know.

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But I mean, podcasting is still so new that you can take those risks. Really? Yeah. Podcasting is like, what, 14 years old, 15 years old. So if Netflix decides to jump in the game and, you know, you do a deal with Netflix for a couple years, you still got your audio listener. Right. You still gonna have some type of audience that's, you know, checking for it. If it doesn't work, then you just go back to doing what you're doing. Joe Rogan just showed us that. Really? Right. Because Joe Rogan was on Spotify. His stuff was behind a paywall. He did that for a few years. I forgot how long the terms of the deal was. But when that term was up, Spotify thought that. Spotify thought it was best for their model to be back on YouTube. It was better for them to have their podcast wide as opposed to being behind the paywall wall. That's. That's always Iheart's model. That's Black Effect's model. I like for things to be wide. I want us to. I want us to meet as many people where they are as possible.

[Commercial Announcer]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

All right. Now we got off topic again.

[Lex P.]

They been getting a lot of game back.

[Drea Nicole]

A lot of game. Me too.

[Lex P.]

But back to the bob, though. Back to what you listening to this weekend.

[Drea Nicole]

So my bop this week is actually a artist that I just discovered. I had no idea. That's why I love my algorithm. I just be scrolling. He's actually extremely popular. I don't know if I'm saying his name right, but it says that he pronounces it Lo. Yisaw Law. I don't know, but it's L, L, O, Y, I S O. How you say it? I thought y' all was laughing. Cause y'. All. But that's how he has it pronounced in his bio. Whatever. But he has this song that just dropped. It's called Scary. And his music reminds me of kind of. Of like. It's R and B for sure, but it's like. It has like a little EDM bop to it a little bit. You know what I'm saying? It's very, very different. I like it. So that's my bop of the week. He's not a new artist. He's extremely popular. I just. He's never came across my music. So, yeah, I'm enjoying him the bop. My bop of the week is scary.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

This song is gonna be so old by the time y' all hear it on New Year's.

[Drea Nicole]

No, it's not. No, it's not. Happy Duke. Shut up, Pearl. As he my ass thought he was.

[Lex P.]

About to say his song was about to be old. I think he's talking about what he about to say.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, no. My song gonna be old, too.

[Lex P.]

What's your song, Billie Jean? It's not.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know why the song probably old now, to be honest with you, but what's homie? His name is Belly Gang Cushington.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, yeah, boss.

[Lex P.]

That ass like your friend.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Dude, is that the one with why can't niece be like, I'm geeked up?

[Drea Nicole]

Why is that?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Which one is what she said?

[Drea Nicole]

What?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When the girl be like, I'm geeked up looking for an eater.

[Drea Nicole]

That's your song?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't know what. I was in South Carolina last week, and I don't know why. That's Mood.

[Drea Nicole]

I was not expecting that to be your boss. Mood. Charlamagne. He get off that Taylor Port.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I'm telling you. I was sitting. I was in a wine bar, and we was drinking, and I just. That shit just popped in my head. And I just screamed, and everybody just looked at me like, what the fuck?

[Drea Nicole]

You was geeked. Geeked up, Looking for a eater.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then this morning, I kept singing it. I was like, geeked up. I'm geeked up, looking for a eater. And then Jess Laris goes, and you're in Atlanta. That's crazy.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, and they say, bounce that ass like your friend, dude.

[Lex P.]

But sidebar, Charlamagne is so unintentionally funny, because when you posted that for Halloween, I was cracking up, cuz I thought that video was AI.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Why everybody say that?

[Drea Nicole]

What video?

[Lex P.]

When he was walking in the Breakfast.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Club office, everybody said they thought it was AI. Why'd they think it was AI?

[Lex P.]

It was an AI character.

[Drea Nicole]

Until you saw.

[Lex P.]

Until the camera panned, you saw Jesse, you was like, oh, this is real time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everybody said that. I was confused. I was like, why do they think this is AI?

[Lex P.]

Cause you look like an AI person.

[Drea Nicole]

Really?

[Lex P.]

I guess.

[Drea Nicole]

Your skins are sloppy. Yeah. Flawless. Honey, you better know, we don't call him Uncle Baddy for no reason.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Belly Gang couldn't.

[Drea Nicole]

Okay, shout out to Belly Gang.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Don't he look like Drewy when Drew was playing that skit?

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, my God. He kind of does.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

A white boy in the.

[Drea Nicole]

He has that tent.

[Lex P.]

He does.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The beard and everything, the way he was. I thought it was a joke. I'm like, this is a real rapper.

[Drea Nicole]

I not. I saw a video recently, he showed his dad. His dad is black.

[Lex P.]

We interviewed him at the BEC Award.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

This year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, that record is fire.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Okay.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And YK niece is dope, too.

[Drea Nicole]

I love her.

[Lex P.]

We love YK Niece. She don't know what she doing. This Just giving it out. What the hell? Hell?

[Drea Nicole]

That was about me.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that was a ball that she said.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I thought y' all was on her. I was like, damn, what the. Why? I was like, why can't. Niece ain't getting paid. You like this don't know what she doing. She just giving. I'm like, God damn.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, come on now, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, well, damn. I didn't know that.

[Drea Nicole]

I don't know her no, Jo, I.

[Lex P.]

Know y' all play Take Me Through There on the radio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

We do. Yes, we do.

[Lex P.]

Oh, she says that don't take me through there. She like. She don't know what she doing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I don't the only hand. Take me through there.

[Lex P.]

Take me through there.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Put your yams in the circle, girl. Put your yams in. What is it?

[Drea Nicole]

Put your yams in the circle.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wham something.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, that Wham.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Girl. Thr girl threw that. Wham.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, that's the same song, right? She said right after that.

[Lex P.]

But she say she don't know what she doing. This bitch just giving it.

[Drea Nicole]

That's the same verb.

[Lex P.]

And then she go.

[Drea Nicole]

She says that right before. Right? Like literally right before.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't never pay that no attention. Yeah, I just know that one part. That wham.

[Drea Nicole]

He's busy looking.

[Lex P.]

He worried about that whammy in the circle.

[Drea Nicole]

He too busy getting geeked up looking for an eater.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I'm geeked up looking for an eater. That's so different.

[Drea Nicole]

First of all, what is y' all starting.

[Lex P.]

He don't be hearing nothing unless it's.

[Drea Nicole]

Something that gotta do with throwing it.

[Lex P.]

In a circle or eater.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

When did y' all start calling men that? What?

[Drea Nicole]

Eaters?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Eaters.

[Lex P.]

That's so disrespectful.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I mean, y' all have been. Women have had names for the longest. A lot of times what women do. We're just catching up to what y' all been doing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I ain't never called men a girl. A sucker.

[Drea Nicole]

Superhead. They be calling a girl superhead.

[Lex P.]

DSL don't hit the same way harder than y'.

[Drea Nicole]

All.

[Lex P.]

Got to think of a better name.

[Drea Nicole]

They be. They used to say we had dsl.

[Lex P.]

They did say we had dsl.

[Drea Nicole]

Stuff like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All I had is compliments.

[Drea Nicole]

I had is a compliment.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, it is?

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Lex P.]

If he a either that mean he is the best in his category.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but. But I guess.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, you best of show you the Michael Phelps of that.

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I'm saying?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, say that. Yeah, it need another adject.

[Lex P.]

Michael Fields.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Don't just call me an eater. Sound like a gold medalist eater or something, you know.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, you got to put something before.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, put something before. Like put the eater. What that mean?

[Drea Nicole]

I mean wwe.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Anybody could be an eater.

[Drea Nicole]

Worldwide eater.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There you go. Wwe. I'm a champion. You know what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

A WWE champion.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Cuz anybody could be an eater. You be down there just spitting on it. Know what I mean? Like looking on it like that don't mean that I got a few w. Worldwide eater. I like that.

[Lex P.]

Worldwide.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's a. That's a worldwide eater right there.

[Drea Nicole]

Y. I like. I ain't going to lie. I'm with him on that one. I like that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I like. Call me that.

[Drea Nicole]

I like that. I like that. I'm not mad. What's your bop, Dre?

[Lex P.]

Okay, so Summer Walker.

[Drea Nicole]

Finally.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, it's finally over. It.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P.]

She just came out with a new album, y'. All. Well, I don't even think we talked about these on the show yet. We were in the rollout.

[Drea Nicole]

Dope.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, that was dope. Thank you.

[Lex P.]

Thank you. Yes. And we improv the whole thing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Really?

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. We didn't have no lines.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Clearly, she's a fan of the show.

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[Lex P.]

Yes, I think she listens to the show. I do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, she reached out to y' all to come be part of her rollout.

[Drea Nicole]

I think you know what it is. I think a lot of times when girls go get their hair done, they get in that lashes done. Now I will say a lot of our audience is hair stylists and lash techs, nail techs. So a lot of times people probably have heard of us because it's playing in the background while they're getting something done. So they may not necessarily listen to it all the time but they be catching it when they're getting stuff done. They might tune in, see a clip, something like that. You know what I mean?

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

So I'm not saying she listened to it every week, but she know what's up, she know what's Up. But no.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, it was really dope because we got to be a part of the rollout. And then I'm also just a big Summer Walker fan. I love Over It. Still Over It. Finally over it is such a good album. That's been in my rotation for a minute now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I respect Summer.

[CarMax Announcer]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, I do respect that she did the other day when she was just like, look, your man cheating. He ain't gonna stop cheating. I just wanna sleep with him every now and then.

[Lex P.]

Ooh, now that was a little messy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It was. But I only. I just didn't like it public. But that's an honest conversation to have. And you know, I was watching, watching CNN the other day and they was talking about how Polynesian sauce. What's the thing?

[Lex P.]

Polygamy.

[Drea Nicole]

Polygamy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There was something else. Polyamory. Polyamory is on the rise. Right.

[Lex P.]

I just love. Because we be missing our words up too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But they say it's on the rise. Yeah. And so when. When I think in the future a lot more of those conversations are going to be had and there's going to be a lot of people who are going to be forced to. To make some decisions.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I agree. But I do think that we have normalized cheating a little bit too much, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

But it's not cheating if you're being honest about it.

[Drea Nicole]

I mean, if all parties know what's going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Exactly.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I would have been okay with it if it was like, you know, the girlfriend knew and everybody knew and they were in agreeance. So stuff like that, you know, cool. Do what y' all do. A lot of people have open marriages.

[Lex P.]

It's a lot of non consensual things.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah. The non consensual, conscientious part that I don't agree. I said consciousual a lot I don't agree with. So I will say I don't like the way that we have normalized, like having side side and things.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I agree.

[Drea Nicole]

I don't like. It's not normal.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why I respected her not wanting to. Was still wanting to play that position, but wanting to be honest about it.

[Drea Nicole]

Right. And she didn't come out with all this stuff. Like people just started talking about her and, you know, she got her name as Ms. Pizza Hut. The tea got hot and I enjoyed.

[Lex P.]

Was real messy.

[Drea Nicole]

It was real messy.

[Lex P.]

It was real messy.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because it shouldn't have been public.

[Drea Nicole]

Agreed.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That was a woman to woman conversation.

[Drea Nicole]

Facts.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And then y' all go tell the man what's gonna happen.

[Drea Nicole]

But I agree with you. I respect her for standing in it and not being like, oh, it's not true.

[Lex P.]

You're lying.

[Drea Nicole]

You're lying. She was like, yeah, this is what happened. I mean, what are we gonna do about it now? So I can respect her for that, at least not lying.

[Lex P.]

I mean, and my thing with Summer is keep doing what you do. Because one thing about it, you gonna give us some good music. That's all we need based off a real life experience.

[Drea Nicole]

I don't what she doing. As long as you don't sleep with my man. Yeah.

[Lex P.]

And. And I feel like she has so many good songs. Like, Go Girl, Everybody Mean, that's been going viral.

[Drea Nicole]

Chicken. What is chicken Alfredo music? I don't really understand.

[Lex P.]

Well, that's what they've been saying about that song. But I like it. They said it's giving, I can't get it out. Red fish, blue fish. Oh, that's two fish, new fish.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

What Dr. Seuss got to do with this?

[Drea Nicole]

Because they saying that's how she sounds Uncle Sam.

[Lex P.]

But I love Yes, I am.

[Drea Nicole]

What Lotto said is, you going to make it rain for these thunder thigh.

[Lex P.]

She didn't say it like that.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes, she did.

[Lex P.]

No, she didn't. That's how you. You sound like Elvis Lotto be singing now.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, she do.

[Drea Nicole]

She sure did. She did say DOA Cat verse was fire. Yeah, she did her thing. I think she really epitomized what that song was about.

[Lex P.]

Yes.

[Drea Nicole]

You know what I'm saying? Like, she was really like this. The song is about me and how I'm to going.

[Lex P.]

Girl, she used to have a chipped tooth but now she got a swimming pool.

[Drea Nicole]

I know that's right. My tooth still chip. It's coming.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You got money for a vanilla?

[Drea Nicole]

He do. I don't want.

[Lex P.]

No, he don't want. Veneers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I said a veneer.

[Drea Nicole]

My tooth's not even. Oh, I don't know why I said that. I just lie for the game. See if I still got it.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Me too. Sometimes I do it all the time.

[Lex P.]

I say all the time. I love a lot.

[Drea Nicole]

A little. When you get in the Uber, just making up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I love it. I love it.

[Lex P.]

What's her name? Ashley.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And believe me when I'm lying to you.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, yeah. You know, I think we practiced. What was that song by the Isley Brothers? What's your name? Sam. Where did she live?

[Lex P.]

Oh, Ice. That's not ice.

[Drea Nicole]

That's not. What was the name of that song?

[Lex P.]

That's not Laundromat?

[Drea Nicole]

No, that's not Laundromat. The Isley laundry mat is Nibia with the say yes. Come and get busted. Busted. It's two. Damn clock in the morning. That's how I learned a lot. She was kind of quick on her toes until she started saying, uh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There's no need to lie though. Yes, you, Honor. You don't have to lie.

[Lex P.]

So you don't never lie?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, I mean, back in the day when I'm grown, I'm an adult, like what do I need to lie about now? And I think that, you know, if I want to actually be in real positive relationships with people. Just tell the truth.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I lie. I don't lie to people in my circle growth. Yeah, yeah. But sometimes I might say a little.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Lie on here, but it's cause you pardon. It's for entertainment purposes.

[Drea Nicole]

I love a lie. That's why I got make sure I still got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's entertainment purposes, but in real life life it's okay to be honest with whoever I'm talking about. Friendships, relationships, everything.

[Drea Nicole]

Now that I do agree.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because I want to be in connection with the real person. You know how they say God can't bless who you pretend to be?

[Lex P.]

Oh yeah, for sure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I can't be friends with who you pretend to be in real life.

[Lex P.]

I think I'm too honest. I be hurting people feelings.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, there's no such thing.

[Drea Nicole]

It is.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's like a shot. It's like when you go to the doctor and you get that shot, it sticks, you know, when it goes right in. But then that medicine heals you.

[Lex P.]

I think I'm trying to find a balance between being like too honest and then still being like considerate of people's feelings. Because I feel like I'm just too honest. Like I be hurting people feelings.

[Drea Nicole]

Cuz it's not about what you say, it's how you say it too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

My mama been telling me that my.

[Lex P.]

Whole life, but I feel like I say it in a nice way. It still hurt people feelings though, because.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The truth will always hurt.

[Drea Nicole]

It's going to sting.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The truth is going to always hurt.

[Drea Nicole]

What we got next, y'. All?

[Lex P.]

So now it's time to get into our favorite segment of the show, which is pour your heart out. You know, if you have any questions, send them to Ask Poor Minds Gmail dot com. That's a S K P O U R M I N D S Gmail dot com. Send us your question questions. Send us your testimonials. Charlamagne. I don't need to ask you, do you give good advice? Because we know you give good advice. So we have a listener question.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay.

[Lex P.]

Hi, ladies. First and foremost, I love you guys. As a fellow Houston girl, I love to see people from the city succeed. Peace and blessings to you both. I can't wait to see what else you all have in store for us. Now. What can you tell me about a high yield savings account or anything related to money longevity? I'm 21, in college and graduating soon. My plan is to have a career simply because that's what will support the lifestyle I dream about. But the ultimate dream is to eventually work for no one and be my own boss. Any tips or advice?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I am not earning your leisure. I'm not Rashad or Troy. I am not John Hope. You know what I'm saying? I don't. I don't.

[Drea Nicole]

I don't know if. Fun fact.

[Lex P.]

One of the topics that we was gonna talk to you about today was about the black dollar and the DEI effect. And I was like, I don't think we. I feel. I like charlamagne. I feel like he funny. We need to talk to him about some more party shit.

[Drea Nicole]

Cause this is, like, I said the same thing. I said, this is not earn your leisure.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, I got thoughts on that, but now I don't even know what she said.

[Drea Nicole]

What is the high level?

[Lex P.]

She said she wanted advice about what should you do to create money longevity, and she wanted advice about, you know, getting a high yield.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All I tell people is, pay your taxes and save your money. I was broke much longer than I had paper. And, you know, I've been on the unemployment line, you know, quite a few times in my life. So my motto is, make sure your taxes are paid and save your money. And, you know, and hire good financial people.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, like, but you got to have real trustworthy financial people. Like, it took me a long time, long time for me to trust somebody with my money. You know, I agree with my guy Humble in Lifeline Financial, but that even started as just a friendship because he was my homegirl, Debbie Brown's financial person, you know, and, you know, there's other, like, a couple other people vouching, like, Issa Rae. Issa Rae, just Issa Rae's business manager. And, like. But he's also just a good dude.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And so it's just one of those things, like, God brings the right people in your life at the right, right time. And, you know, he came into my life maybe, like, five years ago.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And thank God no longer than that now. Maybe six years ago. I don't know. Yeah, but thank God for him, right? But, yes. Earn your leisure. Got a market Monday.

[Lex P.]

Hey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And they do.

[Lex P.]

And that's how I be feeling about it, too, because, I mean, Lex and I do try to drop gems here and there, but I am not a financial advisor. I do what works for me. I do believe in putting your money, your money into the stock market, conservatively. I'm never going to tell y' all what stocks to invest in specifically, but I do think that you should be putting money into the stock market. I do think that you should have a High Yield Savings Account. I do think that you should have a Roth ira. But those are all things that I think that y' all can look into.

[Drea Nicole]

On your own, do your own research.

[Lex P.]

But your money should not just be sitting in your bank account because it's not building any interest.

[Drea Nicole]

And just to piggyback, I think the easiest way to start, like when you're so young, is a High Yield Savings Account. It's super easy. Like, it's literally like opening a bank account or just opening a regular savings account, but your money is making interest, and you can access it very quickly, but it's also making interest every month. So I always tell everybody, if you're not sure about the stock market and you want to take some time to learn, but in the meantime, you want to put your money somewhere that's good. Just Google a High Yield Savings Account, see who has the. The highest, you know, percentage, and start from there. That's y. That's the easiest way.

[Lex P.]

I agree.

[Drea Nicole]

That's all we got.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And y' all talk about. Y' all can't answer questions. Y' all do. Lighthearted Banner. Y' all just gave some great practical.

[Drea Nicole]

I mean, we do. I think I. We like to talk about. We talk about what we like to talk about. Yeah. Impress me. To talk about.

[Lex P.]

And we've talked about financial literacy a few times over the last, I would say, two months. So I think that's why people keep asking us. But it's like, also, this ain't on your leisure. We'll put the link in the bio.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's right. Or John Hope Bryant. He's another.

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Or John Money and Wealth podcast. You can learn a lot from that.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

[Lex P.]

This ain't that. We just be trying to give y' all little nuggets what we learned on the way.

[Drea Nicole]

We. We be texting our damn selves. Figure out what's going On.

[Lex P.]

We do be texting Rashad and Troy. We gotta put in the. We gotta put in the caption. This is not financial advice.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what I'm in time for, cuz John o' Brien does this thing called Operation Hope, and it's. It's like the largest financial literacy conference in America.

[Drea Nicole]

We got to learn that's.

[Lex P.]

And he's a billionaire, too.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, but he's up there. He's hundreds of millions. Okay, yeah, yeah, hundreds of millions.

[Drea Nicole]

But that's what I'm saying. I think for us, we just have to take the time out to do some research and learn. Somebody, like, sent me a message, and they're like, lex, I don't want to do it. I'm like, well, did you do some research? She was like, no, I just watched the clip. Shut up, girl.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Drea Nicole]

Go read something.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Damn.

[Lex P.]

People don't like to read.

[Drea Nicole]

They don't like to read. And that's what I'm realizing. Like, you have to do something, some research.

[Lex P.]

And I love a reader almost as much as I love a eater.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Okay, Now I'm geeked up. Looking for a reader.

[Drea Nicole]

Looking for a reader. So, Adam, people don't read. They don't read.

[Lex P.]

No, for real.

[Drea Nicole]

People do not read books.

[Lex P.]

And it concerns me.

[Drea Nicole]

I say that it should be a kid's bop version.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I like how she said that with enthusiasm. The same way she be like, niggas don't eat pussy no more.

[Lex P.]

Cause I'm a reader.

[Drea Nicole]

I love. As a reader.

[Lex P.]

No, I am. I read all the time.

[Drea Nicole]

And I just.

[Lex P.]

I think it's so interesting that people do not feel the need to read books anymore. They feel like they could just find out all of the information that they want to find out on Instagram, on Google.

[Drea Nicole]

Right, right, right.

[Lex P.]

On Yahoo.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And that's why people don't have no comprehension skills anymore. People have a lack of understanding nowadays. Like, you have to read. My mother was an English teacher, so since I was a little kid, she had me, you know, not just reading books. And she was a Jehovah Witness, so I had to read all the Jehovah Witness material.

[Lex P.]

Y' all was knocking on people, though.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. I was doing field service every time Saturday. So, so, so, so, so not only.

[Drea Nicole]

I was kidding you. Hard life.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That wasn't hard.

[Drea Nicole]

That had a lot going on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's what you're supposed to be doing. If you really believe in God's word.

[Lex P.]

You have a lot of testimony.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do. I do have a lot of testimonies. So I used to have to read all the Jehovah Witness material. And then we had the Book it program. Y' all probably too young for the Book it program. Y' all remember the Book it program where you read four books and you get a free pizza?

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, I remember that. I had that. I do remember. Yeah, that little personal pamphlet, man.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So I used to read and my mama used to say to me, read things that don't pertain to you. So I would be reading things that had nothing to do with anything black. Right. So of course, as I got older, my dad gave me the autobiography of Malcolm X and stuff like that, but I was reading Judy Bloom books. Are you there, God? It's me, Margaret. You know, Super Fudge, you know, Tales of a Fourth Grade. I was reading all of that type of stuff as well. So, yes, you have to read. Like, I. I am big on reading. I read for recreation.

[Lex P.]

I think I do too. I think I. I read for recreation, but I also read a lot of self help books. But I think that in 2026, everybody should challenge themselves to at least read six books this year.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, my friend, like, make that a.

[Lex P.]

My.

[Drea Nicole]

My sister, she reads like a book, A book or two a month.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do that.

[Lex P.]

I do like a book, y'.

[Drea Nicole]

All. Some real readers.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I do that. But I mean, I do that cuz I enjoy reading, number one. But also I got. I got a book publishing company. I got a book publishing company with Simon and Schuster called Black Privilege Publishing. So I read a lot of manuscripts on top of the stuff that I just like to read.

[Drea Nicole]

How many businesses do you have in.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Entertainment or just in general? Let me think. Black Effect Podcast Network. Me and Kevin Hart got an audio scripted company called SBH Productions, where we do like audio scripted content. The book imprint, Black Privilege Publishing, film company, Southland Films, the Crystal franchises. I feel like I'm missing a couple. Probably like seven.

[Drea Nicole]

That's a. You was like Kiki Wyatt.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know, Breakfast Club. I ain't even like Breakfast Club. Breakfast Club. Brilliant. Idiots.

[Drea Nicole]

That's a lot. That is a lot.

[Lex P.]

That is a lot. Yeah, I'mma put a book in your ear. Book deal. You need to start franchising. Waterburst.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Whataburger. Yes, that's Mark Wahlberg joint.

[Lex P.]

We have Whataburgers here in Atlanta now, and they only used to be in Texas. In Alabama.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You said Walgreens. Whataburger.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, Waterburger. That's not. He has one, but it's not. His waterburger is different. It's like a real, real southern thing. But they're starting to kind of like.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, I never heard of Whataburger.

[Drea Nicole]

It's good.

[Lex P.]

It's a burger restaurant. Kind of like Crystal.

[Drea Nicole]

It's fast food.

[Lex P.]

It's fast food.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's why I did Crystal, though. Cause Crystal used to be in the South. That was a staple in the south back in the day. Like, that was our White Castle.

[Lex P.]

We need to look into Whataburger. Or Sheeplease Donuts. Cause if we got a sheep lease in Georgia.

[Drea Nicole]

Yep.

[Lex P.]

Or in the Carolinas, it would go crazy. It's a donut shop. Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

Before we get out of here, y' all know this episode was brought to you by Taylor Port. And y' all know every time we sip on that Taylor Port, somebody gotta get something off. They me tell chest. So this week we have another bottled up for y'.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All.

[Drea Nicole]

So take a listen. Hey, y'.

[Rob Gronkowski]

All.

[Drea Nicole]

I love y', all, by the way. Y' all are so funny. Anywho, so me and this dude been dealing with each other since February. I've met his daughter. He's met my grandmother. We used to go on dates.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All of the above.

[Drea Nicole]

But, you know, sometimes lifey life is. So we haven't been doing the things that we were doing in the beginning of, you know, I. Our situationship. So he said he doesn't want a relationship. And all of the above. It's in the third. I said, okay, cool. We're just going with the flow now. A few months down the road, since July, I believe we had the keys to each other house. And, yeah. So to me, that's kind of serious. But he. He just doesn't want a relationship and all the bell. So I don't know what to do if he's just stringing me along, if I should just stick and see what's gonna happen. Stick around and see what's gonna happen. I don't know. Can y' all tell me what to do, please? Thanks. Uh, you let that nigga be free like he wanna be. I think when one thing about women is we will lie to ourselves, a man will tell you, I don't want a relationship. And they're like, but I met his daughter. But I met his mom. But we have the key. It don't. None of that matters. None of that matters. When a man wants to be exclusive, he's going to be exclusive. And I know that's hard to hear because you feel like one thing about men, too. They will do things that make you feel like y' all are exclusive. But y' all Aren't. And they will allow that because you probably doing everything. Ladies, they love to watch somebody. Kids.

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Drea Nicole]

Y' all love the babysitter. They're like, yeah, little Dante love me. Like, girl, fuck them kids.

[Lex P.]

And I don't like that. Yeah, absolutely not. I'm not watching no kids.

[Drea Nicole]

Like, if we're not toget, what are we?

[Lex P.]

You not my husband.

[Drea Nicole]

Right. I think. I think that's a little. It's a lot. It's a lot. So I think sometimes men will do things that make you feel like y' all in a relationship. And you're like, not understanding. He still want to be outside. But you are giving him the benefits of not being in a relationship, so.

[Lex P.]

Why should he get in one?

[Drea Nicole]

Getting one.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah. Whatever you are to a man, a man is going to let you know. You know what I'm saying? Because he wants that. He either wants you to be his girlfriend or he wants you to be his wife, side chick eater. Like, whatever. Like, he. No, for real. He's gonna let you know what it is.

[Lex P.]

Charla made me tryna shy away from the truth he's talking about. He wants you to be his wife, side chick, whatever.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, the truth. But you're not gonna have to guess as much is what I'm saying. When a man wants you to be something, he's going to let you know what you are. The reason she's asking that question is. Cause she's looking for a position. You know what I'm saying? It's like walking into a job and there's a bunch of applications, you feel. And he's like, you got the job. And he's like, what do I do right? You know what I'm saying? She's looking for a job description, and he hasn't given her one yet.

[Drea Nicole]

Yeah, girl, it's time to just do your thing. Y' all can enjoy each other's company. But I don't think he wants a relationship, Chad.

[Lex P.]

And I'm not saying that you have to stop dating him, but just date other people.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, but then you get a yeast infection.

[Drea Nicole]

Well, I said, what?

[Lex P.]

And this is the problem with men. Let this be alert learning lesson right now. Dating does not mean that does not.

[Drea Nicole]

Mean he said, oh, that doesn't mean.

[Lex P.]

That you have to have sex with all the time.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I mean, you know what? You're right. Cause I be thinking about it from the man's perspective.

[Lex P.]

Yeah.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Men ain't just out here dating y'. All.

[Lex P.]

Not y' all fucking everybody.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Well, not me, not you. Cause black Men don't cheat.

[Lex P.]

But men and you married?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes, I am.

[Lex P.]

Happily.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Men have a rotation, right? And in that rotation, they sleeping with all of these different women. Trust me, they just ain't dating. They just thinking know you you to you know a restaurant on Monday, taking you to the movies on Tuesday, right? Being happy with that. No, I agree. They out there smashing raw.

[Lex P.]

I agree.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So women understand that when your ph balance all messed up, you know, that's what she say.

[Lex P.]

Do say, do say.

[Drea Nicole]

That's right. That's right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Safe sex nowadays is a prayer, mama. Oh, these boys is wilding. Yes.

[Drea Nicole]

She talking about real.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes. And they out here doing it. And they out here doing it with each other. They out here doing it with each other, then bringing it back to the women. Real, you got to are crazy. You got to be really careful out here.

[Lex P.]

But no, I feel like that's the problem. Black women have not been taught how to date properly. We have always thought that you have to put your eggs in one basket. You should only be dating one man at a time. You absolutely should not. Until a man put a ring on your finger. I feel like it's okay to, to date multiple men, but dating is dating. Dating is going on dates.

[Drea Nicole]

You can't just be giving it out.

[Lex P.]

Yes. You can't be just giving it out, not knowing what you're doing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

One of y', all, I think it was you, one of y' all said something about what guys do for girls.

[Lex P.]

Yeah, right.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

All men are gonna love bomb a woman in some way, shape or form. Because when you used to doing things at a 10, that's just the way you know how to do things. So if you the type to say, send women flowers, you're gonna always send, you know, women flowers. If you the type to, you know, buy women bags and all of that, that's what you're going to always do. If you eat bunky, you're gonna eat bunky. So, like, don't think you special.

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[Podcast Host (Mind the Business)]

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[Charlamagne Tha God]

Like, that's.

[Lex P.]

What is bonky boonky.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Your booty hole. What you mean, your booty hole? No.

[Drea Nicole]

Why is my mama laughing like that? Boonky is a funny bitch now.

[Lex P.]

She know what boonky is.

[Drea Nicole]

No, but I do agree because I talked about this to my friend, and she had a situation where she was dating this guy, and she was like, oh, my gosh, he's doing this, he's doing that. He's so wonderful. And then they, like, stopped talking, and she was like, what the hell? He was doing all these things. I'm like, well, that's normal for him, cuz he dates. Like, that's what. So I think sometimes we have to just take that he's courting you. That's what they're supposed to do. And stop thinking that this man is in love with you just because that's how he dates.

[Lex P.]

No, that didn't mean anything more than that.

[Drea Nicole]

It don't mean anything more than that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's just what he's used to. He is being himself.

[Drea Nicole]

Y.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And when you are, like I said, when you are used to taking it to a 10, you going to always take it to a 10. So don't think you special. You're not special special until he shows you that you special. That's a straight up.

[Drea Nicole]

That's a word. All right, we going to wrap up this episode.

[Lex P.]

But before we do, I feel like everybody should say what their New Year's resolution is. Then. We going to pop. We going to pop.

[Drea Nicole]

We going pop our things. Okay, who going to go first? I don't want to go first. Dre, you go first.

[Lex P.]

On what? My New Year's resolution is this.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

O.

[Lex P.]

Okay. So my New Year's resolution for this year is to live more in the moment and stop always focusing on what's next. I feel like I ne. I rarely ever just live in the moment. Like, I'm always like, okay, what's next? Like, even to the point that everybody around me is always like, you just did this amazing thing. You just had this amazing accomplishment, and you not even basking in it because you always looking for what you're about to do do next. That's something that I suffer from so bad. So next year I just want to live in a moment more, have more self care days, more self care time for myself. Because I think that I'm always trying to focus on how to get to where I want to be. And sometimes you just have to be present and appreciate how far God has brought you already.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

That's real. Amen.

[Lex P.]

So yeah, that's my New Year's rescue.

[Drea Nicole]

I think for me, I really want to. As much as like I pour into poor minds, I want to also do that for my like other endeavors that I want to do. You know, I want to be able to expand myself, you know, into the acting and doing more stuff for love. Lex P. Doing more things for poor minds and you know, just expanding my palette of businesses. You know, I want to be naming them like that too.

[Lex P.]

Hey, you know what I'm saying?

[Drea Nicole]

So that's my goal is just to be more spread. Not spreading myself too thin, but just learning how to balance and do it all. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't be like a one trick pony, you know.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

So yeah, those are great.

[Commercial Announcer (Gronk's voice)]

Mine.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

You know what, A few months ago I was meditating and I said to God, I said, God, I am ready for every single blessing you want to bestow upon me. Like, like, like every single opportunity, you know, just, just realizing my full potential as a spiritual being living a human existence on this planet. Every single thing you want to pour into me, I am ready for. Cause I think a lot of times, you know, you might deal with imposter syndrome in some ways, or you might be like, yeah, I want that, but I don't think I'm ready for it now. It's just like, nah, I'm ready. I've been through the fire. You know what I mean? Like, I've been through the fire. You know, God has put me in a position to where I am able to handle every single thing that I have and every single thing that is coming. So yeah, I just want to be open to receiving, having that on all levels and not even just, you know, the so called good that comes with it, everything. Because you know, my therapist always tells me some ill shit. He goes, you know, there's always two sides to a coin. So you can't have any of your success without the problems that come with it. And sometimes we think that those problems are bad, but it's just like, no, it's just, it's life. Like I'm at the point in my life where I don't believe in anything. Everything is so called good. Everything is so called. All of this is just the process. So I'm ready to embrace the process on every single level.

[Drea Nicole]

That's good.

[Lex P.]

That's good. That's a good.

[Drea Nicole]

Y' all remember that movie? What was that movie?

[Lex P.]

Not another teen movie.

[Drea Nicole]

That was my mama. Kyle, what's yours?

[Lex P.]

My resolution is to step into my soft woman power. I am a hustler. I think we all are in this room. And I'm tired. I wanna relax. I wanna enjoy the fruits of my labor. This was the first year that I was able to actually take vacations and rest and have my team running things for me, for my business. So mixy. And I really wanna just step into that a lot more and step back and allow them to kind of step into their power, mentor them, coach them up. Other women who look like me behind the bar, I just wanna step into that a lot more.

[Drea Nicole]

Amen. I love that. And then, you know, of course, Charlamagne. I wanna give you your flowers. Thank you for always accepting poor minds for who we are. Believing in us, speaking holly of us, even when we're not around, Especially when.

[Lex P.]

We first started, when I feel like not that many other people saw what we were trying to do. You always saw the vision and you always believed in us.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And we love what y' all do.

[Drea Nicole]

And just everything you do for, like, the black community and community in general. And like I said, we meet a lot of men in this industry. It's a very female driven industry. But you. And most importantly, you're not a weirdo. You know, be weird, the energy be weird. It be off and all type. We have met some characters, but I will always say your energy is always positive. It's good. It makes us feel welcome and loved. And we really appreciate you for that.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Thank you.

[Drea Nicole]

We do.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And by the way, that is the greatest compliment a woman can give a man. And I didn't realize that until a couple of years ago when I got, you know, I got of a bunch. A bunch of homegirls that I call my nieces and my sisters and everything. And they always say, I feel safe around.

[Drea Nicole]

Yes.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

And I didn't realize how unsafe y' all be feeling around men until y' all find men.

[Drea Nicole]

Y' all just like weird energy and just like, not good energy.

[Lex P.]

It just be the energy.

[Drea Nicole]

The energy just be off a lot of times and it's like, we gotta be like, you know, hey, y', all. You know what I'm saying? But when we are around you when we at Breakfast Club, even today, it's been so relaxed and comfortable and we had a good time today.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Did I?

[Drea Nicole]

All right, y'. All. Y' all make sure y' all tune in next week and Happy New Year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It'll be Valentine's next week on the show.

[Drea Nicole]

Happy new. Happy New Year.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Happy New Year.

[Rob Gronkowski]

Oh.

[Drea Nicole]

Oh, hell, let me loosen.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

No, no. By the way, I think that was.

[Drea Nicole]

God, you gotta loosen it up. Loosen that thing up.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Give me some of that. What's that stuff called? What's the V Wax stuff?

[Drea Nicole]

Not that. Loosen up that boonky. Up that boonky juice. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

There you go. There you go. Bust it wide open.

[Drea Nicole]

Bye. Bye. I'm a weak how can I love somebody else if I can't love myself enough to know when it's time Time to let go.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Pour mine. Sing.

[Drea Nicole]

All I really want is to be happy and to find a love that's mine it will be so sweet All I really want is to be happy and to find a love that's mine it will be so sweet All I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Have for for a sign from my sweet Lord above yeah, I know the answer is in front of me but when you think you're in love you only see what you wanna see and all I see is me for you and you for me oh, I cannot hide the way I feel inside.

[Commercial Announcer (Gronk's voice)]

I.

[Drea Nicole]

Don'T know why but every day I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wanna cry if I give you one more try to these rules will you abide? And if I mean anything to you would you make everything all right?

[Drea Nicole]

Really?

[Commercial Announcer (Gronk's voice)]

Come on.

[Drea Nicole]

Ponnag Is to be happy and to find a love that's mine it will be so sweet All I really want is to be happy and the final love that's mine it will be so sweet All I really want is to be happier it would be so sweet All I really want is to be happy and to find a love that's mine it would be so sweet I.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Just want to be so happy but the answer live in me I do believe that we could be happy that we could be happy now let it.

[Drea Nicole]

Breathe Come on, lick yeah hey, yeah hey, hey yeah, yeah Hey.

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[Drea Nicole]

All. Y' all remember that. Hey.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Act like you don't want to. Let the crowd sing it. Okay.

[Drea Nicole]

Man. Shout out to the wwes in the building, happy New Year. And we'll see y' all next week, next year. Bye.

[Lex P.]

Thank.

[Drea Nicole]

You.

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[Podcast Host (Mind the Business)]

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[Lex P.]

Like at CVS it matters that we're not just in your community, but that we're part of it. It matters that we're here for you when day or night, and we want everyone to feel welcomed and rewarded. It matters that CVS is here to fill your prescriptions and here to fill your craving for a tasty and yeah, healthy snack. At cvs, we're proud to serve your community because we believe where you get your medicine matters. So Visit [e-mail] or just come by our store. We can't wait to meet you. Store hours vary by location.

[Drea Nicole]

Janice Torres here and I'm Austin Hankwitz.

[Podcast Host (Mind the Business)]

We host the podcast Mind the Business.

[Commercial Announcer]

Small Business Success Stories produced by Ruby Studio in partnership with Intuit QuickBooks.

[Lex P.]

We're back for season four to talk to some incredible small business owners.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

The big thing about working at tech.

[Drea Nicole]

Is that it's ever evolving, ever changing.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Everyone's a rookie. That's how fast the industry is changing. So what I'm really excited about is to be part of that change.

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[Podcast Host (Mind the Business)]

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Lex P.]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.