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Lindsey Williams returns to the podcast to join me in interviewing Taylor Burge, stepdaughter of Phil Phillips.

She shares what it was like growing up in the home behind Turmoil in the Toybox, the infamous book that warned Christian parents about the supposed demonic dangers of He-Man, Care Bears, Ninja Turtles, Power Rangers, and other pieces of 80s and 90s childhood.

In this conversation, Taylor reflects on being raised as one of the “poster children” for her father’s ministry, the pressure of growing up inside fear-based Christianity, the complicated legacy of satanic panic, and how she now thinks about parenting, faith, community, accountability, and breaking cycles as an adult.

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