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Profit with Law: Profitable Law Firm Growth
Hosted by Moshe Amsel · EN
Small Law Firms often start from the practice of law and not as a business venture. This ends up causing the growth of the firm to be much longer and more painful than it needs to be. If you started a Law Firm with the intention of increasing your impact, freeing up your time and having all the money you will ever need then the strategies we discuss will be priceless for you. Profit with Law is a show focused on the business of running a law firm as a profitable venture. Packaging and pricing your services, getting clients consistently, growing your staff in a way that feels good to you and implementing systems and technology to set yourself up for success are all discussions you will find here on the show. Moshe Amsel the host of the Profit with Law podcast is not an attorney. He has spent 20 years as an executive in the IT industry before becoming an accountant and business advisor for small businesses. As the owner of a successful accounting firm DreamBuilder Financial and Law Firm Growth coaching organization Profit with Law, Moshe has proven that there are better and different ways for a law firm to do business and be successful. Our mission is to empower all people with wealth creation so that this and future generations can lead a better life. We’d love nothing more than to do this by helping law firm owners on their journey. A law firm is not for practice it’s for profit!
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You Don’t Have a Talent Problem—Your Law Firm Has a Structure Problem
1w ago00:36:25Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/533.Most law firm owners don’t have a leadership problem—they have a leadership gap they never intentionally built for.And that gap quietly shows up as: growth that stalls, teams that depend too heavily on the owner, and a firm that can’t scale without burning you out.In this episode of Profit with Law, Moshe Amsel sits down with leadership expert Julie Lancaster, President of Lancaster Leadership, to break down what’s actually missing inside most law firms when it comes to building strong, scalable teams.Julie brings decades of experience and hundreds of performance evaluations to lay out what it really takes to move from “everyone does the work” to a firm that runs on real leadership layers.Resources mentioned:🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysessionDon’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.Law Firm Growth WorkshopTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereNot sure if now’s the right time? Book a call with us to talk it through and see if it’s a good fit.Connect with Julie Lancaster: Website | LinkedInBeyond Words: How Our Stories and Strategies Inspire Leadership Action by Julie LancasterJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/
Transcribe →The Money Gift That’ll Make You Filthy Rich
2w ago00:35:25Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/532Too many lawyers work tirelessly for decades, only to realize too late that their financial future isn’t secure—and neither is the legacy they hoped to build.This special episode of the Profit with Law Podcast features internationally renowned real estate investor, speaker, and thought leader Adiel Gorel. Discover how a simple, overlooked financial tool—paired with a proven investment approach—can empower any law firm owner to not just build wealth, but safeguard it for generations.If you’re looking for actionable ways to create lasting wealth beyond just billable hours, don’t miss this roadmap from someone who has helped thousands achieve true financial freedom.Resources mentioned:🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysessionDon’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.Law Firm Growth WorkshopTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereNot sure if now’s the right time? Book a call with us to talk it through and see if it’s a good fit.Connect with Adiel Gorel: Website | LinkedInFrom Fear to Fortitude: Inflation, Time, and Debt for Lifelong Wealth | Adiel GorelPersonal meeting with adiel: info@icgre.comICG Real Estate 1-Day Online LIVE ExpoJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/
Transcribe →How to be a Profitable Law Firm Owner in 2026 – Part 4c of 5
3w ago00:49:58Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/531Struggling to find top-tier talent and unlock real law firm growth? Most attorneys think great hires come from polished job postings or endless resume-sifting—but that mindset is sabotaging your success before you even begin.On this eye-opening episode of Profit with Law, host Moshe Amsel—CPA, law firm strategist, and founder of the Profit with Law podcast—breaks down the hiring and staffing frameworks elite law firms use to build world-class teams. You’ll learn why your network—not the job boards—holds the real keys to hiring “A players,” and how to apply proven marketing strategies to your hiring process so you never settle for second best again..Resources mentioned:🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysessionDon’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.Law Firm Growth WorkshopTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereNot sure if now’s the right time? Book a call with us to talk it through and see if it’s a good fitJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/
Transcribe →How to be a Profitable Law Firm Owner in 2026 – Part 4b of 5
4w ago00:21:35Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/530.Feeling overwhelmed, burnt out, or stretched too thin? If you or your team are at capacity, it’s not a sign to stop growing—it’s a wake-up call that your law firm’s staffing model needs attention.Join Moshe Amsel, law firm coach, CPA and host of the Profit with Law Podcast, in this tactical solo episode as he unpacks when and who to hire for true law firm growth. Discover actionable frameworks to proactively scale your team instead of constantly reacting to stress and overwhelm.Chapters:[00:00] Spot burnout in your firm and turn overwhelm into a growth opportunity[02:57] Use business cycles to plan attorney hiring and avoid bottlenecks[05:04] Unlock higher profit margins with efficient law firm systems[06:07] Decide when to hire an attorney versus improving processes[08:35] Determine which roles are critical for law firm scaling[10:05] Measure attorney and staff capacity to prevent growth plateaus[11:40] Leverage org charts for smarter business growth strategies[14:01] Reverse engineer your practice’s growth and hiring roadmap[16:08] Sequence law firm hires for consistent client service success[19:52] Embrace visionary leadership to design your practice’s futureResources mentioned:🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysessionDon’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.Tax Assessment Call: profitwithlaw.com/assessmentTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereTraction by Gino WickmanEOS Defined and Its 6 Components That Drive Firm Success – with Brooke LivelyJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamse
Transcribe →How to be a Profitable Law Firm in 2026 - Part 4a of 5
Apr 1700:33:27Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/529.If you think landing more clients will solve your law firm’s growth and profitability struggles, you’re missing the real key to scalable success.In this must-listen episode of Profit with Law, Moshe Amsel, law firm profitability mentor and host of the show, kicks off Part 4a of his “How to Be Profitable in 2026” series. He challenges the common belief that marketing and sales are your main growth drivers and reveals why true expansion hinges on hiring and staffing strategically.Law firm owners, whether solo or growing a team, will discover a game-changing approach to breaking through stagnation and building a firm that thrives—without falling into the feast-or-famine trap.Chapters:[00:00] Uncover the real key to law firm profitability and growth[02:08] Why hiring is essential for scaling your law practice[05:15] Learn how adding staff multiplies client capacity[06:59] Avoid the feast-or-famine trap in your legal business[09:04] Understand why new hires must come before revenue growth[14:16] Pause for profit: the importance of strategic resting phases[16:54] Play offense, not just defense, to win in legal business[20:43] Decide if your practice is playing to win or not to lose[31:31] Prepare your hiring plan for sustainable legal business growthResources mentioned:🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysessionDon’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.Tax Assessment Call: profitwithlaw.com/assessmentTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/
Transcribe →How to Make a Return on Investing in Mass Tort Cases
Apr 900:45:39Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/528.Most law firm owners hear “mass torts” and think opportunity.What they don’t see is the risk, the noise, and the number of firms quietly losing money.In this episode, Moshe sits down with Kate Hoffmann, founder of Smart Reviews, to unpack what’s really happening behind the scenes — from how firms are using mass torts as a growth and tax strategy, to where things are breaking down with bad leads and fraud.They walk through how to evaluate opportunities the right way, what separates a smart investment from a costly mistake, and why due diligence is the difference between strong returns and wasted spend.This isn’t about chasing the next big case. It’s about understanding how this space actually works so you can make better decisions with your time, money, and firm.If you’ve ever considered mass torts — or you’re already investing and want to do it more effectively — this conversation will give you a clearer lens on what to look for and what to avoid.Listen now to learn how to approach mass torts with more confidence, better judgment, and a strategy that actually supports your firm’s growth.Resources mentioned:🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysessionDon’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.Tax Assessment Discovery CallTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereConnect with Kate Hoffmann: Website | Kate’s Personal LinkedIn | Smart Review LinkedInJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/
Transcribe →Why Your Firm Needs to Utilize AI in 2026 - 527
Apr 200:31:17Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/527.AI isn’t just coming for the legal industry—it’s here, changing how law firms attract clients, streamline operations, and deliver superior client experiences. The real risk? Waiting on the sidelines while competitors leap ahead.On this episode of Profit with Law, host Moshe Amsel sits down with serial tech entrepreneur Alex Mehr, PhD, creator of Famous.ai and co-founder of Zoosk, to demystify how law firm owners can unlock outsized results by integrating artificial intelligence—without technical know-how or a massive budget.Alex shares the mindset, strategies, and tactical playbook you need to leverage AI for practical wins in your firm—from marketing and lead capture to automating client intake and creating custom tools unique to your workflow.Chapters:[00:00] Discover how AI supercharges law firm efficiency and client experience[01:53] Learn the founder story behind Famous.ai and its impact for entrepreneurs[03:37] See how breakthrough technology turns ideas into solutions for your practice[05:55] Why playing with new law firm tech keeps you ahead of competitors[07:44] Find legal tech apps that streamline discovery and client communications[10:35] How client-facing apps educate and convert leads for estate planning[12:23] What makes Famous.ai unique for law firms versus other software builders[13:48] Assess if you can build your practice management system without a development team[16:03] Transition your legal team from coding to strategic digital project management[18:55] Spot automation opportunities in your law practice’s daily workflow[21:50] Differentiate app builders: Famous.ai vs. Replit for non-technical legal professionals[24:42] Measure the true cost savings of AI tools for your firm’s operations[28:51] Rekindle your curiosity—experiment with AI to grow your law practiceResources mentioned:🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysessionDon’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.Law Firm Growth WorkshopTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereConnect with Alex Mehr: WebsiteJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a
Transcribe →The #1 Secret Holding Back Your Firm’s Hourly Rates
Mar 2600:42:17Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/526.You know you need to raise your rates, but every time you think about charging more, you feel that pit in your stomach…And you can’t figure out why.Because pricing is not just a numbers issue. It is a belief issue.In this episode, Moshe sits down with pricing expert Linda Hunt, founder of SumSolutions and author of The Money Conversation, to unpack the real reason so many law firm owners underprice their services. It is not just about strategy. It is about whether your mind and body are actually aligned around the value you bring.When you do not truly believe your services are worth more, that shows up in your pricing, your sales conversations, your confidence, and ultimately your firm’s profitability.Resources mentioned:🚀 Ready to Double Your Take-Home Pay and Cut Your Hours in Half In Your Solo Law Practice?Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysessionDon’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.Law Firm Growth WorkshopTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereThe Pricing Playbook to Unlock Your Firm's ProfitsMatthew McConaughey on How to Fall Back in Love with Your Life | A Bit Of OptimismConnect with Linda Hunt: Website | Personal LinkedIn | Company LinkedInThe Money Conversation by Linda HuntReflection Prompts• What comes up when you imagine saying your rate out loud to a client?(This can be adapted to explore money, self-worth, boundaries, or value.)• Where do you feel that response in your body?(Chest, throat, belly, jaw, breath — be specific.)• What thoughts tend to follow that sensation?(Stories, fears, assumptions, or familiar narratives.)• What would help your nervous system feel steadier in that moment?(Breath, a pause, a script, a reminder of your process, etc.)
Transcribe →Misusing Social Security Wipes Out Your Extra Capital
Mar 1900:41:09Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/525.Nearly every law firm owner focuses on retirement– but many are leaving tens of thousands of dollars on the table because they mismanage Social Security.In this episode of Profit with Law, host Moshe Amsel sits down with retirement income planning specialists and authors Michael Hoeflich and Russell Gaiser to reveal how misusing Social Security can wipe out your extra capital. Drawing from their book Beyond Break Even, Mike and Russ show why Social Security decisions must be at the center of your financial plan– not an afterthought.If you want to protect your wealth, maximize your legacy, and avoid costly mistakes, this conversation is your roadmap.Chapters:[00:00] Why social security planning matters for your law firm clients’ retirement[06:05] Discover the cornerstone of retirement income planning for attorneys[11:59] Five pillars every lawyer must consider when planning retirement income[13:46] Avoid running out of money: key strategies for your clients’ retirement[17:11] How timing social security impacts taxes for law firm owners[20:06] Reduce your firm’s tax burden with social security strategies[24:33] Maximize spousal and survivor benefits for married attorneys[26:40] Coordinate retirement accounts, pensions, and life insurance with your practice goals[30:26] Rethink legacy planning: transfer wealth during your lifetime[33:24] Empower your clients with abundance-focused retirement strategies[38:08] Learn how to access free social security optimization tools for lawyersResources mentioned:Law Firm Growth WorkshopTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereConnect with Russell Gaiser and Michael Hoeflich: Website | Russell’s LinkedIn | Michael’s LinkedInBeyond Break Even (Book): beyondbreakevenbook.comJoin our Facebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/lawfirmgrowthsummit/To request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/
Transcribe →The Money Strategy Behind Scaling a Law Firm – with Allison Williams - 524
Mar 1200:33:19Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailShownotes can be found at https://www.profitwithlaw.com/524.Too many law firm owners avoid the financial side of their practice—leaving growth on the table and stress on the rise.In this episode, Moshe Amsel welcomes Allison Williams, CEO of Law Firm Mentor and author of Crushing Chaos, for a tactical conversation on building true financial clarity and eliminating the chaos that holds most attorneys back. With decades of experience coaching high-achieving law firm owners, Allison breaks down not just what to watch in your firm’s numbers, but how to shift your thinking and systems to predictably scale profit.Resources mentioned:🚀 Ready to double your take-home pay and cut your hours in half in your solo law practice?Most solo attorneys stay stuck on the “revenue rollercoaster” - long hours, inconsistent income, and no clear path out of it.If you want a proven roadmap to escape that cycle and build predictable growth, it starts with a Free Law Firm Growth Call.In just 30 minutes, you’ll walk away with:✔️ A custom 12-month growth roadmap for your firm✔️ Clarity on exactly what’s holding you back✔️ Step-by-step actions to create predictable, scalable growth👉 Book your free session here: https://profitwithlaw.com/strategysessionDon’t wait - these spots fill fast every week.Law Firm Growth WorkshopTake the Law Firm Growth Assessment and find out how you rate as a law firm owner! Check out our Profit with Law YouTube channel!Learn more about the Profit with Law Elite Coaching Program hereEpisode 20 - Crushing Law Firm Chaos with Allison WilliamsEpisode 176 - 2019 Summit Q&A Replay - Tools for Productivity with Allison Williams and Neil TyraEpisode 431 - Crushing Your Marketing Chaos: Five Easy Steps to Consistent, Recurring Revenue with Allison WilliamsConnect with Allison Williams: Website | Email | Facebook | YouTube | PodcastProfitwithlaw.com/chaosTo request a show topic, recommend a guest or ask a question for the show, please send an email to info@dreambuilderfinancial.com.Connect with Moshe on:Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/moshe.amselLinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mosheamsel/
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