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The Power Gifts Of The Spirit Pt. 2 | Pastor Craig Field | Wed. Feb. 5, 2025
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We're talking about the power gifts of the spirit today. And so actually put up the first slide again. I just want to read it quickly. The very first slide I sent you. Amplified special endowments. Now, we'll talk about endowments later. But that's where, Dr. Dufresne. That's where. When you hear ministers talk about endowments, there's not a scripture verse that says in English, you know, the endowments of this or the endowments of that, but the word. But this word here. I would not have you ignorant of spiritual gifts. The word gifts italicized. But the word spiritual means. And then in verse 4, it does say, this is all 1 Corinthians 12. 4. It does use the word gifts, which is not italicized. But that word spiritual or gifts, means special endowments. That's where we get the word endowments, because it's in the original language of supernatural energy. Do not be misinformed. The new living, then. Special abilities. This is when we're talking about the gifts of the spirit. Why do we need them? Because the gifts are special abilities. You want special abilities? Are you dead? Because I can bring the worship team back up if you need me to. The Darby says special manifestations. Holman's. What comes from the spirit message. The various ways God's spirit gets worked in our lives, how he works in our lives. Passion. I don't want you confused about spiritual realities. So the gifts are supposed to be reality. Young's literal spiritual things. Philip's spiritual matters. Praise the Lord. Amen. These are important. Put that next screen up. Number two. That would mean dos. There we go. They speak Spanish back in the sound booth. So I have to work with them a little bit for the below definitions of profit. Remember, he'll give to every man to profit withal. Remember, we read that. I can tell some of you you're not awake. We're going to hand out Red Bull. Go hand them out, please. The Red Bull drinks that we ordered today. Have a look at 1 Corinthians, chapter 12. Let's just read that. I want you to see it with your own eyes. First Corinthians, chapter 12. If you would be so kind. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord. And verse seven, that first verse we know now, concerning spiritual brethren, I would not have you ignorant. That's those definitions we just gave you. And then it talks in verse four. Now, there are diversities of gifts, but the same spirit. Diversities of administrations, but the same Lord. Diversities of operations, but the same God. We talked about that last Week. Now, the manifestation, you could say gifts or manifestations, because gift is verse four, manifestations is verse seven. They mean the same thing. But the manifestation of the spirit is given to every man to profit. Remember that. To profit withal, to give it to every man to profit. That means you didn't just say fivefold ministers. This is for every one of us to give unto every man to profit. And by the way, some people have asked some very good questions about this already. I hope I didn't cause any confusion on our first teaching. I don't think I did, but I think that this sparks a lot of great questions. And so we're going to do a question and answer time as we go because it helps sometimes to ask questions and then answer the questions. So. But I'm not going to do that tonight. But if you have a question, just what is our email address? Peter? Questions. Plural. Questionsomiseoflife. Ca. If you have questions about anything I'm talking, or a question that you might have as it pops in your head, just email it to us and we will spend time. Or you can write it down and then just when we have the Q and A, you can just pull out your notes. But see, it says to every man to profit. And that word profit means to be able to bear things in this life with his help. So the gifts help me bear things. Conduse. The prophet also means conduce. That word means to bring help for a particular outcome and a specific result when I need something done in a particular way. Gifts can be an assistance to me with these nine gifts. It means that to profit means to have an advantage or be expedient. I like the definition, to have things more convenient for my own interests. You say you mean you can profit like you're going to get personal gain from the gifts. Aha. But that's not fair. Aha. Because it said every man can profit. It's not an equal playing field. The believer is different to the sinner. I should have an advantage. I should. It's not. It's not an equal stack. It's a stacked deck. I'm being honest with you and you better change the way you think if you don't think that way because you're in a covenant with God Almighty and they are not. When you're in a covenant, the stronger party gives his abilities, wealth, protection to the weaker party. The gifts is one of the greatest demonstrations of the covenant that we have because God is giving us himself and what he has so that we can profit and have an advantage. And have a better life to than the person that we know down the street. That's why we got to tell them about Jesus, because they can come and profit too. Hallelujah. If you'd operate in the gifts, more people would want to get saved more because they'd notice these things happening and they'd go, what the heck? Who are you? How did you know that? How did you do that? How did that miracle happen? Well, if you just come over here and receive this, what I've received, you can have the same thing anyway. Okay, Be better for that means be better off. The gifts make me better off. Bring God together with one. God's power joined to me. Beneficial, profitable. John 16, 7. It is expedient. Remember, it's important that I go. It's expedient that I go. That the comforter may come. It's the exact same Greek word as prophet. So Jesus could have said, it's profitable for me to go. It's to your advantage. That word is the same word used here as prophet, as it is there. John 16. Jesus is saying, it is advantageous or profitable for us if he goes. Because if he goes, he sends the Holy Spirit. And of course we know that it's with his gifts. So a lot of people say they quote John 16. Well, if I've. I've got an advantage because I've got the Holy Ghost, and they only talk about the Holy Ghost. And that is right. But don't limit to just the person. You can also, with the same word, the same meaning in the original language. You could also say, according to First Corinthians 12, 7, I don't just profit because I've got the Holy Ghost. John 16. I profit because I've got the gifts. I have an advantage because I have the gifts. Amen. Of course, the Holy Spirit as the person is greater because he's a person. We fellowship with him. Do you understand? But I've noticed my kids, they love fellowshipping with me on December 23rd and 24th. But Christmas morning, they're not too interested in fellowship. Have you ever noticed if you have kids, you know what I'm talking about. You know, they'll snuggle with you, but it's that what's under that tree is more important than talking to Daddy at that moment. Do you understand? And so, of course, they've got all year to spend time with me. But there are times when what I give them is very important. Do you understand? And it's the same way with us. The person is far more important than the gifts. But don't forget that the gifts also give us an advantage. So don't only talk about the person because he's given something. He's giving something and he wants us to respect it. And if we show honor for it, he'll give it more. Praise the Lord. And I need him to give it more. I need him to give it more to some of you. Hallelujah. Okay, then go to the fourth thing, please. Yes. Utterance. Remember we said there's three categories? Utterance is what? That's what you say. Prophecy, tongues, and interpretation. Revelation is what you know. Word of wisdom, word of knowledge, discerning of spirits. Power is what you do. Gift of faith, working of miracles, gifts of healings. Now, I told you last week, I read the descriptions, but I said I would give it to you on the screen because you couldn't write that fast. So put that up for me, please, and let's have a look. Now, prophecy means inspired. That means it didn't come from your mind. It comes up out of your spirit. Spontaneous is the key word. It's spontaneous utterance in a known language. Do you understand? You got to be able to understand the language. In our case, English. In Pastor Happy's case, Punjabi, Urdu, all these different languages. Right? But he has to. But it has to be understood by the person speaking it. Tongues is inspired utterance in an unknown language. Again, it's still inspired. It's in the moment. But it's an unknown. Interpretation of tongues is the interpretation of a tongue which is in an unknown into a known. Does that make sense? And do you notice it didn't say a translation? Because you'll hear people say a tongue in seven seconds, and then you'll hear somebody interpret it in four minutes. What the heck? Or somebody will speak in tongues for 2 1/2 minutes, and the interpretation is 15 seconds. How did that work? Well, first of all, God is working through a vessel. He's working through people's personalities. And God understands that different. Listen, honestly, people that if their natural tendency is short, to the point and succinct, you'll see the interpretation will be shorter. If their natural bent is more long and drawn out, the interpretation will be more long and drawn out. God does not mind that because he's working through a vessel and it's coming through that vessel, he's okay with that. What is important is that the core, nuclear core of. What was that? What was that word in tongues talking about? What is the core of it? That is what has to come out. But some People have a lot of flowers and, you know, they make it all real pretty and they got a lot of added stuff there. But the core is what God is after. Other people, they're just bare bones. Just get to the point and they'll do it real short. But the core of it is there because it's not translation, where every word has a word in the known language. It's an interpretation. We're interpreting what that word is. The core of it has to be communicated. And if you look at first, don't look there. But I'm just saying, First Corinthians 14, it says that if there is a tongue, you can actually, according to God's rules, have up to three people interpret the same tongue, but not more. Up to three. Now think about that. We don't often have that flow, but we should get into that. But it's got to be, of course, by the Holy Ghost. But somebody can give a message in tongues, and then one person might just say it in 20 seconds, and they're just a bare bones. And then another person gets up and they're the flowery person, and they spend four minutes explaining it in a different way. And then another person gets up and does it their own. See, it's flowing through different vessels. But the core has to match. You can't have one person start talking about Jesus is coming to save Israel, and the other person talking about healing, then somebody's missed it. And then the pastor has to get up and basically help the person who's missed it sit down, take the bike away quickly. That's why sometimes there's a hesitancy to do that, because unless you're accurate, then there's going to be confusion. If there's. The core message has to be the same, even though it might be expressed in variety of forms, okay? Revelation, gifts. This is a word of word. It's not a paragraph of wisdom. It's not a manifesto of wisdom. It's not a dictionary of wisdom. It's a word. That's why it's called Word. A word or piece of supernatural wisdom to reveal the future. A word or a piece of supernatural knowledge to. To reveal the past or the present, what you don't know in the natural and discerning of spirits. Supernatural revelation by seeing or hearing into the realm of spirit. So yesterday, in my mind, I saw that I didn't see the demon in an open vision. Do you understand? But in my mind's eye, I saw that spirit. Okay? So some people call that a spiritual picture. But really, what Was that because it's not really a vision? So if it's not a vision, it wasn't really the discerning of spirits that operated. Do you understand? Because I wasn't seeing into that realm in an open or a closed vision. Do you understand? Open means. Open means that I'm seeing into that realm completely like a movie screen. Closed means God is allowing me to enter that realm, but it's not to the same measure as open, okay? Really, it's me going into that realm. It's God coming into this realm versus me going into that realm, okay? That's open and closed visions. Now, there is different levels of visions. And so a spiritual picture where you see something very in your mind's eye, but it's not really a vision. I know people put it in that category, but I don't really count that as a true vision, do you understand? And so discerning of spirits, you have to see into that realm, do you understand? Or you have to hear something supernatural into that realm for it truly, genuinely to be counted as the gift of discerning of spirits. So yesterday when I saw that in my mind's eye, that is more of a spiritual picture. That is not really a vision. I didn't go into that realm. He didn't come into this realm. I just saw something with my eyes closed. But what it really was was a word of knowledge. Do you understand? And so sometimes I'll know that an angel is standing here. Now, I can physically feel many times the presence of the angel. Like, and I'll turn thinking that happy or an usher is standing beside me. And I'm thinking, what do they hear? And there's nobody there. Other times, angels will touch my arm or touch my shoulder and I'll turn thinking somebody wants my attention and there's nobody there. But I can feel an entity standing beside me, but I can't necessarily see them. Do you understand? But I know that they're there not just because of their physical presence, but that's a word of knowledge. I know that they're there by the word of knowledge. Do you understand? And sometimes I feel them. Most times I do, sometimes I don't. But that's not a vision because I didn't see. Do you understand? When I saw that massive, monstrous, beautiful thing, that angel standing in the middle of the pulpit that I saw into that realm, that was an open vision. That's discerning of spirits. But when I sense their presence and I know by the word of knowledge that they're there, that's not discerning of spirits. You've got to learn how to define these or you'll get mixed up. So when I was praying and by the word of knowledge, I knew that demon was operating. Now, I had a spiritual picture, but I didn't need to have the spiritual picture because a word of knowledge can come without a spiritual picture. Do you understand? So that's how that you can ask more questions later if you want. But that's basically a word of knowledge. And many times you can have things I don't want to. Maybe I shouldn't get into that now because I don't want to confuse people. But you can have, for example, a word of wisdom through the vehicle of prophecy. What dad Hagin would call through the vehicle of prophecy. Meaning you're prophesying with inspired utterance, spontaneous. As you're prophesying, you know about the future. So now two gifts are operating at the same time. One is the word of wisdom. You know the future, but it's coming through prophecy. Do you understand? Other times you just know the future, but you're not prophesying. Do you understand? So many times you'll see a minister stand and begin to give a word, and they're talking about the future or they're talking about the past. But because it's spontaneous utterance, it's those revelation gifts, the vehicle of the utterance gifts. Are you with me on that? Okay, so power gifts. The gift of faith is a supernatural manifestation of divine or special faith. And if I were you, I would. If you want to remember these things and they're important to you, you should take a screenshot of that because it's good that you remember the definitions. Okay. If you want God to give them to you, you got to show interest. You're here tonight, so you are showing interest. So. But this is important working of miracles. I just love this is Kenneth Hagin's definition of it, but I love it. A supernatural act on a natural plane as an intervention into the ordinary course of nature. Remember I told about Howard Carter with that drop of water, and it went back up. That's an intervention into the ordinary course of nature. Because the ordinary course would be to fall by the law of gravity, a temporary suspension of the accustomed order, the interruption of the system of nature as we know it, operated by the force of the Holy Spirit. Those are miracles. Gifts of healings is a supernatural manifestation of the healing of diseases without natural means of any sort in order to deliver the sick and destroy the works of the devil and the human Body. These are Kenneth Hagin's definitions of the gifts of the Spirit. He was obviously greatly influenced by Howard Carter, who brought so much revelation to the body of Christ on the gifts of the Spirit. In fact, without Howard Carter, we wouldn't know as much as we know today as. And neither would Kenneth Hagin. And God revealed a lot to him when he was in that prison as a conscientious objector. Praise God. Nothing wrong with going and fighting for your nation. But if God says don't do it, well, you better obey. And while he was in prison for obeying, much revelation came about the nine gifts of the Spirit to Howard Carter. And then of course, Kenneth Hagin got more revelation on his own. So those are the definitions. Now do you know that there is which is the best gift? Kenneth Hagin talked about, and actually Paul talks about that you desire the best gifts. So which is the best gift of the utterance? Prophecy. And why? Because it's one instead of two. So tongues and interpretation equals prophecy. So when you have a combo deal, you bet it's better to have one. There's nothing wrong with tongues interpretation, but it equals prophecy. Tongues. You're saying it in an unknown interpretation. It's coming into the known. They're both spontaneous, they're both inspired. But if you can just do it in the known language right away, that's a higher flow. And if you've ever been used in tongues and interpretation versus prophecy, you'll sense the difference. There's a stronger anointing, there's a more authoritative flow with prophecy than there is with tongues and interpretation of tongues. Okay, what is the best? Don't just call it out. Let's put your hand up or let me pick on somebody. What is the best gift of the revelation gifts? Shoot. I was hoping you'd get it wrong and then I can bug you. You're very, very right. I guess you went to Bible school or something, didn't you? Yes. The word of wisdom. Why is the word of wisdom the greatest? Because for you to know the future, there's a multi billion dollar industry called psychic hotline. Don't call them demons. Know the future to a measure. To a measure only to a measure. They do not know all the future. If they did, they wouldn't have crucified Jesus. Those idiots. They only can see so far. The Holy Ghost sees into eternity. But because they have a measure of knowledge for the future, people paid a lot big money to call and ask if I should marry that person or to take this job or move to this country or blah blah, blah. But that's because they don't have an advantage. We've got the Holy Ghost and the inward witness and we've got gifts. So the best gift is the word of wisdom. Because to know the future is so powerful. What is the best gift out of the bottom three? Do you know, Coley? The gift of faith is the top power gift. Why, of course we want the others, but we need the others. But to have God's ability to believe even for a moment is the most powerful experience that you could have. And in fact, we'll explain it as we go. You can't have miracles without the gift of faith. Gift of faith and working of miracles are twin brothers. You can't have miracles without faith because you have to have supernatural faith in order to step into the miraculous. Do you understand? And so out of all nine now, what did Kenneth Hagin say is the greatest? Do you know? Do you know? Do you know? Gift of faith. Out of all the nine, the best gift that we could ever operate in is the gift of faith. Because we can get anything done with that gift. Praise the Lord. Now what is the number one reason why God doesn't pour out the gift of faith more often? Now you can just talk. It's okay. Everyone's nervous. You can just talk. What's the number reason 1. Number one reason why God doesn't give the gift of faith more often, because you've got to come to the end of your own faith. And most people don't even know how to use the faith they have. And if you don't know how to use the faith you have, God's not going to give you the gift. But if you know how to use it, but you don't use it, he won't give you the gift. But when you've used what you have, so you first have to have knowledge of what faith is. And do you understand how few people have knowledge? So that's why we see such little in the body of Christ, of the gift of faith. It's not supposed to be that way, but for our church, you know what faith is. So now the question is, will you use what you've got? Because if you use it and you get to the end of it, the gift will stop will popping. On that India, on that platform in India, I was. I don't know if you heard me preach about that on Tuesday at the conference, but I was. I didn't say it there, but the emotions of that moment came over me again while I was preaching I mean, just talking about it made me feel those emotions again. It's absolute terror knowing you're about to be killed. I mean, it's just a very crazy feeling. And I remember gripping that handle of that guitar case and crying and hyperventilating and Jesus, help me, Help me. See, it doesn't sound like I'm in faith, but I'm trying my best to use whatever little bit I've got. And you see, then he said, spin like a top, which I started doing. I did that by faith. I'm still in my faith. But when he said. I didn't say this in the sermon, but when he said to me, now curse them, that gift came on me. Do you understand? Because, I mean, I don't know if I could have done it on my own. Maybe I could have, maybe I couldn't have. I don't know. But I felt that power come on me. That power was the gift of faith. Come on. When that comes on you, buddy, I'm telling you, you better watch out. Because God has just painted me with his own faith, even for a moment. And nothing is impossible at that moment. And that's why out of my mouth, I. I was so afraid. But when that gift of faith came on me, there was such courage to say, I curse you in the name of Jesus. And then the power of God moved. Do you understand? So the gift of faith can accomplish anything, and it's really the best gift. Praise God. And that reference, by the way, if you're writing notes about the best gift, it says, desire the best gifts. That reference is First Corinthians 12:31. Paul says, Desire the best gifts. Amen. Hallelujah. And if you want to know where it says tongues and interpretation of tongues equals prophecy, that references First Corinthians 14, 5. If you're. If you're writing notes, praise the Lord. Hallelujah. Well, I want to talk to you a little bit now about the power gifts. But before I get into that specific area, I want to divide something. Most people don't know this. I know if you were in my Bible school class, you would know this, but many people here were not in that class, so I'm going to repeat it again. We need to separate the gifts of the spirit for a moment because we're going to talk about especially. I'm not really talking about the other six anymore. Okay. You can ask questions, but I'm focusing on the power gifts. Okay? But before we get into the first power gift, you need to understand something about how this works, because this will really help you and simplify things for you. There is a difference between the gifts of the spirit and the operation of faith. And a lot of people don't understand this. And it seems that God meets humanity's needs by both the gifts and the operation of the faith of individuals who put a demand. And I'm specifically talking about healing right now. Who put a demand for healing on. On God. When you put a demand on God, you're putting a demand with your faith for that healing power. Okay? That's one operation. There's another operation called the gifts of healings. The gifts of healings operate when nobody puts a demand on that. You don't need faith for the gifts of the Spirit to operate. Do you understand? Which is why in churches that don't know much, the gifts will operate more. That's why in crusades, where you're dealing with the unsaved, the gifts operate exclusively. There isn't an anointing of healing power because you have to have faith for that anointing. And the sinners don't really have faith. Sometimes some of them have a little bit and it might draw on it. But the gifts are really key when you're dealing with sinners. So when I'm talking about this a lot, because God said, focus this year on evangelism, start talking about evangelism. Start challenging the people to write a number down for evangelism. Let me explain something to you. If you understand this, it will make your evangelism efforts that much easier. Because when you're dealing with sinners, the gifts of the Spirit will operate like this. When you're dealing with baby Christians, the gifts of the Spirit will operate like this. When you're dealing with mature believers. Hold on. Or immature believers, but are in a mature church. Are you listening? The gifts of the Spirit will not operate. Now, if we bring in a new person in this church, they're an immature believer, but they've only been here for a few months. The gifts will operate. Talking about an immature believer sitting in a mature church, hearing mature teaching for months and years, that's what I'm talking about. But they refuse to grow. They will not use their faith. They will not develop. Gifts will not operate for them because they've had an opportunity and they have turned it down. Maybe not intentionally, maybe their hearts aren't rebellious, but their actions, their lazy actions. God won't operate. And Kenneth Hagin would say. I've heard him say it many times. He'd say, well, when I go to these Word of Faith churches, the gifts don't operate and the pastor feels like he's a failure. And dad Hagin would teach the pastors and go, no, the fact that they don't operate means you're a success because the people in your church have had the teaching of the Word and that's your job as a pastor. And now they're putting a demand with their faith on that anointing of power, not the gifts, the anointing of power. And that operates fully in those scenarios. Whereas new believers or new members, that will work for them, but in the majority of cases, they don't operate very much. But you go to a church, he would say, I go to Baptist church, or I go to this other religious kind of church. And there's no teaching on faith. There's no teaching on how to receive by faith who you are in Christ. Kenneth Hagin said, the gifts will work very, very, very fast. Why? Because people can't use their faith, because they've never been taught to use their faith. But you know the problem with that, everybody? I know what you're thinking. You're thinking, I'm believing promise of life, and I'm going to the church down the street. That doesn't teach faith, because then I can just get everything for free. The problem is, when you go there, it won't work for you because you already know something and you can't really go back and wipe your mind. So now you're an idiot now and you don't know nothing. You're just a baby that doesn't work. We don't have machines that can do that, even though in the movies they do. But in reality, no, you know what? You know no matter where you go, God's going to expect it of you. Are you with me? Hallelujah. But thank God. That. And I'm not that. These are generalized statements. I'm saying I have seen the gifts operate even with mature believers. So there is always exceptions. God is not going to be held in a box. There's generalities and then there's exceptions to those rules, and the Holy Ghost is the boss, he chooses who the exceptions are. You don't get to choose that. I'm just simply saying that when you're out there witnessing, which is what we want you to do more, you don't have to as much try to get the person to believe now if you can do it. But many times you don't have the time. It's just not the time to try to teach them doctrine. You're just trying to get them to say yes to Jesus. You don't really have the time to teach them about how to believe by faith, but that's why you've got a tremendous asset. The Holy Ghost has given you an advantage when you're talking to them, and there's a great need in their life. Don't worry about trying to get them to believe, because the gifts will operate through you, for them, through you. Because that's the whole purpose of the gifts. The gifts are primarily for the sinner. They're not for the Christian. Do you understand what I'm saying? Because the Christian, the just, that's me. The Christian the just shall live by faith, not by gifts. Praise God. So thank God for the gifts, that they are free and they are wonderful and we so need them. But they don't really work as much in our life for us because we've come into the great privilege of this message of faith. But many people don't, including Christians that have been saved for decades. But they're in churches that don't. Gifts will work for them. You bring in people that don't know anything. Here, the gifts will work for them. You bring in sinners. The gifts will work for them. You go out and evangelize. The gifts will work for you. The gifts will help you. You'll just. You look at them, Philippa, and you'll just say, I don't. Lord, in your mind, you're thinking, I don't know why I know this, but I just. I know that something traumatic happened when they were. When they were in their young. And then you just say, did something you know? And you start to talk to them. How did you know that? See, that's the gift of the word, of knowledge. It's not going to come like an angel. Stand before thee and say, philippa. Philippa. Oh, hear ye, Philippa. The gift of the word of knowledge is about to operate for the three. 2. Now lift your hands and pray in tongues. 1. That's not how it works. People think that's how it works. It can happen without you even realizing it's happening. That's why you got to get sensitive. That's why the more you pray in tongues, the more you'll understand when the gifts are operating through you. Are you with me? Praise God. So there is a difference between faith and the gifts, and they are distinct in their operations. Put up that next screen. Now. Acts 10:38 says this. How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power, who went about doing good and Healing. Notice the context of this verse is primarily about healing. All that were oppressed of the devil, for God was with him. So healing, remember, anything to do with demons, anything to do with deliverance, all comes under the category of healing. So when you cast out a devil, technically that person has been healed. If you're scripturally accurate. Okay, Deliverance is not a separate category to healing. It is in some ways, but really, anybody that's been delivered has been healed. And I'll prove that to you as we continue in this teaching. But I want you to notice something now, Kenneth Hagin. God showed him this, and it's helped me so much how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth. Now watch now with the Holy Ghost and with power. Now, we say that like it's one sentence. With the Holy Ghost and power. Like, in other words, the Holy Ghost has power. And so we put it all in one thing. He's anointed us with the Holy Ghost and power because the Holy Ghost has power. But that's not what this is saying. This is showing a distinction. God anointed him with the Holy Ghost. Pause. In the Greek, there's a pause and with power. And it's not, the Holy Spirit has power. Don't get me wrong. The Holy Spirit has power. Of course he has power. But the way that this is written and the way Jesus explained it to Kenneth Hagin is there is a distinction between the word Holy Ghost and the word power. Did you know that? Don't tell me you did, because I know you didn't. There's a distinction. What is that distinction? Well, the first category of being anointed with the Holy Ghost means the Holy Ghost manifests himself through that person with the gifts. Remember I said we can call them gifts or we can call them manifestations. Manifestations is a preferred term. That's why it said, and these manifestations of the spirit are given to every man to profit withal. You could use the word gifts because it's in verse four. But the word manifestations is a better way to say it. Now, we say gifts of the spirit so commonly, but manifestations of the spirit is a better way to say it. Can I tell you why? Because like I said last time, when you say a gift, you think of it subconsciously. This is what you think. I'm the Holy Spirit, he's the person. The Holy Spirit gives him a gift. Now, there's a separation between me and that gift. So you think, well, I've got the gift, but you don't really think of the Holy Spirit in that equation, other than he's the giver. But if you look at it like the Holy Spirit is manifesting through you, then it's more. Instead of passing it to you, it's more. It's more of a pouring motion, and it's going through you and out of you to the person in need. Now, the Spirit of God is not removed from the equation. When you think of it as a manifestation, you connect the gifts, quote unquote, with the Spirit or the giver, that he's actually pouring it through you. He's not just giving it to you. And he's standing over there. He's in me and he's pouring it through me. So when you think of it as a manifestation of the Spirit, and it's better because you're connecting the Holy Spirit to what's happening. Do you understand? He's manifesting himself. I shared that last time. What he's doing is he's strutting. In the Greek, it means to strut. He's letting the world know this is who I am. He's showing himself, exhibiting. Remember I said it means to exhibit. He's an exhibitionist. He is exhibiting himself, expressing himself. Not just by giving it to you and standing away. He's a part of this thing. He's in you, and he pours it through you and out of you. And that's him showing the world, hey, this is God, and he does it through us. So when it says how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost, now you say, well, where do you. Where do you get this? I've never heard this. I've never heard this before. Well, you don't have to believe it if you don't want to believe it. It's your call. But in the Greek language, there is a distinction. So doctrinally, I can prove that. But more than that, on September 2, 1950, in a tent with raining outside in Rockwell, Texas, that's where Leanne Sosby, the one who sings and prays with Pastor Nancy, she's just planted a church last week in Rockwell, Texas. But in that, there was a tent meeting that Kenneth Hagin was holding as a young man. He was 33 years old, and he was kneeling, sawdust on the floor. It was raining outside, and they were praying. They would just finish the service and they were praying. And he was kneeling at the altar in this tent in Rockwell, Texas, on September 2, 1950. And Jesus appeared in the sky and called him and said, come up hither. And he went to heaven. And he went to the throne room of God. He's one of the only people I've ever heard that had that privilege. I know Jesse has, but it was different. Jesse was there kneeling. Kenneth Hagin had a far greater privilege than that. It was God the Father on the throne and Jesus. And God the Father was about. What did he say? 14ft? I think he said, give or take backward to his left. So God is sitting on the throne and covered in glory, and Jesus is standing there, and Kenneth Hagin is standing, and he wants to look at the Father. If you were there, you would want to look at the Father, too. And Jesus said, don't look at him. That must have been a heart. I think I would have cheated a little bit. Jesus. What's that over there? What's that? You can't do that in heaven. Anyway, let's move right along. And so Jesus said, don't look at him, look at me. And so he had this experience, part of this experience that he had. This was out of all the experiences he's ever had with God. Kenneth Hagin always said this was the greatest experience. Because, yes, Jesus appeared to him in the hospital room for an hour and a half. And yes, he appeared to him in Broken Bow, Oklahoma, talked to him for an hour and a half about demons and darkness and. And all that stuff, but none of that was in the throne room of God, with God the Father sitting on the throne to the left behind. Jesus in person. And he's there in person. Do you understand? Like, that trumps everything else that has happened. So in this experience, what Jesus, one of the things that he explained to him in this, which you're going to see in a second, but Jesus explained to him, there's a difference between Holy Ghost and power. Now, when Jesus talks to you in the throne room of God, with God the Father sitting there, either you think Kenneth Hagin's a liar or you accept it. It's your. I'm not asking you to accept visions. I'm asking you to accept the word. But in the original language, there is a distinction between Holy Ghost and power. And that's why there's that word. And there it didn't say how God anointed Jesus with the power of the Holy Spirit. Do you understand? It could have said that because in other parts of the scripture, it talks about the power of the spirit. And, you know, when it talks about the power of the spirit, then it's all talking about one thing. The Holy Spirit has power. And that's all we're talking about. But this distinguishes it in the original language. He was anointed with the Holy Ghost, but he was also anointed with power. What is the difference? In that vision, Jesus explained to him, the reason there's a distinction in Acts 10:38 is because when I was anointed with the Holy Ghost, I'm summarizing, I was anointed to have gifts operate when you're anointed with the Spirit. In this context, it's the Spirit manifesting through you with gifts. But when I'm anointed with power, that's a different thing altogether. That means the Spirit of God has anointed me, but with a certain special anointing of power which can now flow through my hands to the ones that are sick. Remember the context of sickness and demon oppression, which is all part of sickness and all part of healing. When that power flows through my hands, that person is healed. But there's a distinction. The gifts do not require faith, but the power does. So the Holy Spirit will choose people, especially those that don't know. He won't pick people as much when they do know because they need to operate by the power. But when people don't know, the gifts will operate as a gift. As a gift to them. It's a gift to them because they don't know nothing. Do you understand? But now, when you've learned a little bit, you're expected, to whom much is given, much is. Didn't say, to whom much is received. I can offer it. I can give it to you. If you don't receive it, I still gave it to you. Didn't say, to whom much is received, much is required. It said, to whom much is given, much is required. So if I give it to you by preaching, it's given. I've done my job. It is now required of you. Are you listening to me? Even if you didn't understand it, or you didn't want to understand it, or you didn't pursue it, or you didn't pray until you got the revelation of it. It doesn't matter if it's preached from this pulpit. It's been given. You are obligated and required under God's law, under God's divine order and system. Now you are responsible for it because it was given. Something is required of you. Now that's sobering, isn't it? So when that goes out and you hear things, now, all of a sudden you're responsible for that. What you've heard and now you need to operate in what you've heard. And when you do that, and you release that faith that is inside of you because of what you've heard, because it comes by the revelation of the word, all of a sudden, now you've tapped into the anointing of power. And you can get that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, in church, out of church, in your shower, or with the penguins in Antarctica. That anointing of healing power will work anywhere you are in the world, anytime, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. It is an unlimited supply. And your faith can draw on it. That's why power is greater than gifts. Because I don't need the Holy Spirit to choose me. I have been, I've chosen it myself. And he will honor my faith. But if I don't have faith, see, it sounds like the gifts are better, but they're not. If I don't have faith because I haven't been taught, now I need him to pick me because I'm basically a baby. I don't. So a baby needs you to feed them. If you don't feed them, the baby will die. That's the gifts. But you just let that kid grow six months, a year, a year and a half, whatever, they start grabbing the bottle and putting it in their own mouth. You see, because they're becoming mature. Mom and dad don't have to do all the work. That's the power. When you start putting the bottle in your mouth, you've moved from gifts to power. If you're going to grow and mature in God, you, you're going to have to get to the power level. You cannot stay on mommy and Daddy feeding you with a spoon. That's the gifts level. I'm talking receiving. Gifts can flow through you at any time in your life, no matter how mature you are, because it's for somebody else. But for you to receive it by the gifts, you have to be a baby. It's being spoon fed because you don't know any better. Can you picture it that way? But as you're growing and maturing and now you can start putting the cracker in your mouth and putting the grape in your mouth and you can start feeding yourself. What you've done now is mom doesn't have to baby you anymore. Now you know how to feed yourself. Something is required of you. You have matured. That is the act of faith. And the power comes into you. Do you understand? Am I saying it clear enough for you? But power is always better because it means I can have it anytime I want gifts as awesome as they are. I'm talking about reception now for me can only operate as the spirit wills. He has to choose. Now I'm at his. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I'm at his whimsy. I'm at his choice. What if he doesn't pick me? Do you understand? But it doesn't matter if he picks me or not. I've got power. I get the same outcome anytime I want because of my faith. That's why we teach people to grow in faith. Because you get the same as the gifts. I'm talking about healing now. I'm not talking about word of wisdom, word of knowledge. I'm not talking about any of that. I'm about talking. I'm only talking about healing. Are you all with me? Because I'm not talking about the other. The other gifts we need for our life on a regular basis. I'm talking about healing only right now, okay? When we're talking about healing and the gifts of healings, there is a difference between the gifts of healings and the working of the anointing of healing power. I would rather have the power because I can access at any time. But the gifts of healings, God has to choose which is limited, but he will choose it for the sinner and for the baby. Because they can't have the power. Because the power has to be unlocked by faith. Are you with me? Praise God. Hallelujah. So that's why some people come to a church. They sit in the church at the beginning, when they sit, they get healed right away. This has happened to us many times. People come to my office, I'm discouraged, I'm depressed. Why? Well, first six months, everything was so easy. I got healed of this, I got healed of that, I got healed and now I'm not getting healed. You bling hands. Nothing's happening. I think I've done something wrong and I smile at them and I go, no. I said I was spoon feeding you and now you got the bottle in your own hands. It was so easy at the beginning because you didn't know anything and God just gave you everything. But now you've sat for two years under the word, now you know how to talk. But I'm noticing you don't talk right now. You know how to release your faith, but you won't do it. That's why it's not happening anymore, because it will happen. But you've got to unlock that now. Not with the gifts, but with the power, the way you unlock the power is with your faith. That's why you need to come to church and then release your faith. Because when you release your faith, it will work. Then they go away, and then they come back six months, 12 months later, and they go, oh, yeah, it's working now, but it's because I'm releasing my faith. I'm not just coming up and saying, lord, I hope you pick me. I hope Holy Spirit, just do something. Do something. Oh, please, Lord, I'm desperate. I'm desperate. Well, it works sometimes. It doesn't work at other times. I hope you're being helped a little bit. Because a lot of people don't understand. They think God has left them. They think God doesn't love them. They think they're a failure. And they don't understand. It's not that you're a failure, it's that there's more required of you now. So just do it. It's not hard. Just do it. Okay, so we see the distinction between the Holy Ghost and power, which is activated by faith. Now, to more fully understand this, and I already told you, for an hour and a half, Jesus spoke to him in the throne room of God. And I'm only going to. It's long. I can't talk about everything, and not everything applies to this study. But I want to. I'm going to put on the screen. And this is a transcription discussion that Jesus had with him. You say, where did you get the transcription from? Well, Kenneth Hagin in one of his series talked about it verbatim. He said, exactly what happened. So I got ahold of that tape, and I was very grateful to get ahold of that tape. And I rewind, play, rewind, play, rewind, play. And I painstakingly wrote out word for word, exactly what he said and what Jesus said to him. And some of it is not in the best English, but I didn't change it on purpose because Jesus will talk to you in your way of understanding. And Kenneth Hagin, being a colloquial Texas and Oklahoma boy, didn't always say everything with the perfect English. But I think it's amazing that Jesus talked to him, Dan, in imperfect English. He didn't talk to him in the Queen's English. He talked to him in Tulsa English, which is very different to the Queen's English, because God will talk to you in a way that you understand. That's the magnificence of God. And I was going to change some stuff, and then I thought, no, I'm going To keep it exactly the way he said it, because that's how it actually happened. So are you okay with this? Tonight we're talking because I'm not trying to put visions over the Word, but Jesus is the Word. And as long as what we read and what we see in the vision lines up with the Word and that there's no discrepancy with the Word. And as long as the person talking about it proven and trustworthy as an honest minister, then I don't mind talking about it. But if you notice, a lot of people have visions, I don't talk about any of them from the pulpit because they don't trust the people. And some of them can be fruits, flakes and nuts. They're part of the granola church. But Brother Hagin wasn't a Granola Christian. I believe he was right. And everything has been. I've done a thorough study both in the known and in the Greek language, the English and Greek. And what he is saying, there is nothing in what I'm about to show you that contradicts the Scriptures. Do you understand? Okay, So I want you to see here. I'm gonna put some of it on the screen and some of it I'm just gonna read. So he had this conversation with the Lord, and this is what Jesus said to him. Okay? This is not the first thing he said to him, but this is as the congregate conversation was, was, was unrolling or unraveling. I'm not telling everything because it doesn't apply, but this does apply. He said, and I'm quoting Jesus now, he said, I called you before you were born. I separated you from your mother's womb. Not everybody is called before they're born. And not everybody is separated from their mother's womb. Not every minister, okay, but in his case, he was. Satan tried to destroy your life before you were born and many times since then. But my angels have watched over you and. And have cared for you until this present hour. And he was 33 when Jesus said this. And then Henneth Hagin paused and started telling the story about how his heart stopped when he was a little baby and how Granny was going outside with the shovel to bury him. And as she's going to put him in the hole, that angel hit his heart with his finger and his heart started to beat and she felt the flicker of life in him and she went back inside. He was premature. He was just this big. See, that's what Jesus is talking about. The devil tried to kill you before you were born. And so she wiped him off. They hadn't even wiped off the. You know, babies don't come out the way they look in movies. She hadn't even cleaned him. So then she came in, cleaned and put a little wrap around him and had to take an eye dropper with milk because he couldn't. He would choke if she tried to put the bottle in his mouth. And one drop at a time. Can you imagine that? One drop at a time was all. He was so tiny. That's all he could swallow was one drop at a time. But his heart. He was completely dead. He was born dead. And that angel and that heart started beating just before putting him in the backyard, in the hole. So that's what the. That's what Jesus is saying. The devil tried to kill you. There was an assignment to kill him because of what he. What he was going to do, where he was going. You know what I'm saying? He was the forerunner of the second coming of Jesus. So there was an assignment. So he explained all of that. He paused. Okay. And then Jesus began. I'm not repeating all of it, but Jesus began talking to him about the three phases of his ministry. And I won't get into all that, but Jesus was talking to him about that. And then Jesus said, hold out your hands. He held out his hands in front of him and. Sorry, he's. He's standing there. And Jesus said these words, quote, stretch forth thine hands. So Kenneth Hagin put his hands out. Jesus put the finger of his right hand in the palm of dad Hagin's right hand, and then laid the same finger in the palm of his left hand. And dad Hagin said, the moment he did that, the palms of his hands began to burn like he had put a coal of fire in them. About a spot larger than a. Just larger than a half dollar. Okay. Jesus touched both palms, which is with his right index. And then Jesus said, kneel down before me. And he did. And then Jesus laid his right hand on his head, and he said these words. Put that screen up, please. He said, I have called thee. Listen, he's kneeling. He's just had that anointing put in his hands by Jesus. Index, right index finger in the palm of his hands. The fire of God is burning in his hands. He's kneeling. Now Jesus has his right hand on his head. And he said, I have called thee and I have anointed thee and have given unto thee a special anointing to minister to the sick. Remember, we're talking about healing now. This is in quotes, because this is Kenneth Hagin commenting on this statement. Jesus said, well, now, you see, I'd been praying for the sick for a good many years. I did that as a Baptist preacher first. Then after receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost and coming over among the full gospel people, I continued to pray for the sick by the laying on of hands and by the anointing with oil and those things. It is scriptural to do that, you see, but it is also scriptural to minister to the sick with a tangible anointing of God's healing power. Jesus was anointed with that power. Jesus was anointed with that power, okay? And he's talking Jesus saying, I've given you. Why? He said, I've given you a special anointing. Now, listen, I'll explain it as we go. But this anointing, you cannot get this anointing because you love God. There are anointings and there are special anointings. God chooses who he gives special anointings to. And many ministers, he doesn't give those special anointings. Just because you're a minister, that doesn't mean you automatically get it because you're a minister. Most ministers do not have a special anointing to heal the sick. Most don't, but some do. Jesus called it a special anointing. And he said, I'm giving this to you now, dad. Hagin called it a tangible anointing of God's healing power. Why? Because of that fire that was in his hands, and he could feel that tangibility of it. Do you understand? But not everybody has it, and you shouldn't seek for that. You still with me then? After Jesus said this, not everything is on the screen. He said, stand upright on thy feet. Because, in other words, this is basically his commission. This is a very holy moment in the throne room of God with God. The Father is sitting behind you, and you're kneeling, and Jesus has his right hand on your head. And he says, I've called thee and have anointed thee and have given thee a special anointing to minister to the sick. Then he said, stand up right on your feet. That was his commission. It's pretty amazing. So he stands up on his feet. And then Kenneth Hagin says, he began to show me in the word things that Kenneth Hagin had never seen before. And then Kenneth Hagin said, quote, we can be so religiously brainwashed. When you're reading the Bible with glasses on that are colored with religious tradition, it just sort of blocks out some of these Other things. Now, dad, Hagin had believed and had been taught all his life that Jesus only healed to prove his deity or his divinity. Many people in religious circles still believe that today. The only reason he healed was to prove to people he was the Son of God. And he believed that hook, line and sinker completely. So he said he believed that. And the only reason he healed people was to prove that. Now, Kenneth Hagin says, and I'm quoting, well, Jesus knew what was in my mind. Jesus didn't tell him he believed that. But Jesus knows what you believe. Jesus knew what was in my mind. And of course, some of these thinkings in your mind would hinder you from entering into the full ministry as you should be. And so, you see, he went about to get my thinking straightened out. Okay, that's. Kenneth Hagin is emceeing this. He's explaining this. He said, he went. He said, he will hinder you from the full into full ministry as you should be. And so, you see, Jesus went about to get my thinking straightened out. He's not saying to Jesus, but Jesus knows everything. And he knows that he thinks he's in heaven. He's just been given a special anointing, but the thinking is messed up. You can receive an anointing, but if your thinking is messed up, it's going to affect how that anointing works. So Jesus is going to straighten out his thinking. Otherwise that anointing won't work. Do you understand? So Jesus knows his thoughts, and now he's going to go and correct his thinking because religious tradition has taught him that Jesus only healed to prove his deity. Okay, you still with me? Now put that screen up. So Jesus said these words. Some people. This is Jesus speaking. Some people say that when I was on the earth in my ministry, that I healed to prove my deity and to prove my divinity. But I didn't. Why is he saying that? Because he knows he's thinking it, so he's correcting his thinking. Well, you see, this is Jesus speaking. Well, you see, if that had been the case, then I certainly did not prove my deity, and I did not prove my divinity. And I didn't prove to anybody who I was or what I had in my own hometown of Nazareth. You see, the word says in Mark's Gospel, the sixth chapter and the fifth verse says that I could there do no mighty work in my hometown of Nazareth, save I laid my hands on a few sick folk and healed them. And the few I healed didn't have much wrong with them. I think this is A very important nugget. Not just what I'm saying, but listen. He received an anointing. The anointing is going to be hindered if his thinking is not right. You can receive lots of things, but if your thinking is not right, it can mess things up. You can receive a call from God to open a business. If your thinking is not right, you're going to hinder that. So Jesus is so kind because he knows what he's thinking, even though they're not discussing it verbally. But Jesus now immediately starts to correct the thinking thinking verbally because he knows he's thinking this. Okay? And so now he's commenting after Jesus said that that phrase healed them without having not with not much wrong with them. Now Kenneth Hagin is talking now, and he said, now you talk about shocking a fellow. Now you talk about shocking a fellow. That shocked me out of some of my Baptist tradition, brother. It shot it full of holes. He said to the Lord, well, Lord, I've read the New Testament through 150 times and portions of it, more than that. And I didn't know what. And I didn't know that was in there. So he's giving Jesus his resume and hoping the Father can hear. Do you understand? He said that shocks the fellow. That blows holes in my Baptist doctrine. So I'm going to tell Jesus that I'm shocked by the way I've read it 150 times and portions more than that. I mean, he's really laying it thick. And if it says anything in the Bible about that, I don't know it. That's pretty bold. If I was in the throne room of heaven, I don't know if I would have said that. But God obviously doesn't mind honesty. So to that response, Jesus is now going to respond to that statement that if it's in there, I don't know it. Now he's responding. Look what Jesus said. Why, son? There's a lot you don't know. Why, son? There's a lot you don't knows in there. You see, he's talking to him like he talks. No, I was ministering as a prophet anointed by the spirit of God. If I administered, like a lot of preachers and like some churches think that I did when I got to Nazareth, I would have challenged them by saying, you doubt that I'm the son of God. You doubt that I'm God manifested in the faith. You doubt my deity. You doubt who I am. I tell you what to do. Just gather up six totally blind people and we'll have the doctors examine them to certify the fact that these five or six are totally blind. And then you get several totally deaf people and other doctors present to examine them and certify that they're totally deaf. And then you bring together four or five or a half dozen of bedfast people, paralyzed people or crippled people who can't walk and are carried in. And we'll have the doctors to examine them and to certify that they are totally crippled. And then I'll heal them. Do you see what Jesus saying? If I was proving my deity, I would have done it that way. But you know, I wouldn't even have accepted a challenge if they challenged me. In fact, they did challenge me in a sense, because they said, the mighty works that we've heard that you did at Capernaum, do them here also in thy country. You'll notice in reading that I never did them. All I did, all I could possibly do there was that I laid my hands on a few sick folk and healed them. And the few that I laid hands on didn't have much wrong with them. Do you see what he's correcting, thinking you only healed to prove your deity? No, I didn't. Well, what are you talking about? I've never seen that in the scripture. Well, that's as if you don't know a lot that's in the scripture. But. And then he's proving his case. If I was really doing it to prove my deity, I would have done it differently, but I didn't because I only healed a few sick folk. So I couldn't have been healing to prove my deity if I only if I did a little minimal job. Do you see Jesus point here? Now, one translation Kenneth Hagin says is in the Vines Expository Dictionary. A few sickly folk, which is the exact quote from the King James. It means in the Greek minor ailments. So he paused to explain that. Then keep going. Jesus is still talking, and he says, you see, it says here in the Word that only a few were healed under my ministry. Now keep it on the screen. On. Now, dad, Hagin thought that Jesus. See, he's narrating. He's quoting what Jesus said, but he's also explaining it as he's teaching. This. I didn't put on the screen everything that he explained, but I'm reading it to you. So he says, now it says in the Word that only a few were healed under my ministry. Now Kenneth Hagin pauses, and he says that I thought Kenneth Hagin is saying, I thought as a minister up until this moment that everybody that was sick everywhere he went got healed. Because this is Jesus. He's the greatest man ever. He's got the strongest anointing of any human. So obviously anybody who's sick, anywhere he goes, they're going to get healed. He had always thought he. He had 100% everywhere he went. But Jesus is explaining to him, you see, it says in my word that only a few were healed under my ministry. Why? Because he knows Kenneth Hagin is thinking wrong thinking that Jesus had perfect success. And Jesus is trying to say, I'm perfect, but I didn't have perfect success. And now he's saying this upended my theology completely. Why? Because it's wrong thinking. He's trying to get him to think right. So then Jesus continues, it is true that in some places and on some occasions that everybody that was there in that service that day or in that place that day, every sick person there got healed under my ministry. It's true, and we know that because the Bible says and all were healed. But it is also true that in other places, on other occasions and other days, like for instance, here at Nazareth, that just a few received their healing. Can you see that? That's very simple to receive. Understand that in the word. So dad Hagin said, he paused and he's explaining and he said, one of the accusations that has thrown at me and at other faith ministers who believe in healing is this. People say this in accusation. Why don't you just heal everybody? You know, people say the divinity hint all the time, everybody, you're this faith healing, you're this healing minister. And, and all these people are sick, and yet many of them leave and they're not healed. Why don't you just heal everybody? Because Jesus healed everybody everywhere he went. A lot of people that hate the healing message will throw that out. Well, he healed everybody. So what are you. Do you understand? And so Kenneth Hagin is saying, this accusation has come. But he said this proves now that Jesus didn't heal everybody every time, everywhere he went. So he was saying in the recording, he's saying, now I have something to answer those accusers when they say, why didn't you heal everybody? Well, Jesus didn't heal everybody. But at that point, he thought Jesus healed everybody every time. So he didn't have an answer for those people accusing him. Are you still with me? Just a few received healing. Now look at the next thing he said. Remember, Jesus is saying all of this in one long thing. But Brother Hagin is pausing to explain it. Okay, Jesus continues, you'll notice that the text said that I could there do no mighty work save I laid my hands on a few. Jesus is quoting the scripture in Mark 6. And then he says, how many is a few? Jesus is asking him, how many is a few? Dad, Hagin answered him and said, I don't know. A few is a few. Very good answer. When God the Father is sitting listening to you, I don't know. A few is a few. Well, it's not many. Jesus, he said, I would think it would be less than a dozen. That's what he said. Jesus didn't answer him in that moment. But later he said, when he was studying his Bible, he read about Noah. And the Bible says that with Noah, a few were saved by water. So he now knows what a few is because it said a few were saved. And in Noah's case, it was eight souls. So dad summarized that. Dad Hagin summarized that a few means eight to 10. But he didn't know that at the time where he could have answered him. But he didn't know that. He just said, a few is a few. I don't know, probably less than a dozen. Okay, now Jesus continues, how many is a few? He answers, what I just read. You go to the next screen. He says, notice that these people challenged me and said, the mighty works that we have heard that you did at Capernaum, do them here in thy country. The text Mark 6:5 said, I could there do no mighty works. Totally blind person being healed would have been a mighty work. A totally deaf person or crippled or bedfast. But the few that did get healed didn't have much wrong with them. Jesus is teaching him now. I'm commenting. He's commenting. Remember, Jesus is giving a masterful discourse an explanation to me. Kenneth Hagin said, and therefore to all of us are of the difference between healing transmitted through the touch of faith and healing ministered through the gifts or the manifestations of the spirit. Jesus hasn't got to all of this explanation yet, but it's coming, okay? Two totally different and distinct operations. So play close. Now attention. So he's saying, didn't have much wrong with him. Remember, Jesus is building his case. Now look what Jesus continues to say. He says, you see, Peter preaching to Cornelius household said in Acts 10:38, How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and power. The Holy Ghost and something else. Jesus is saying this. This is what Jesus is saying. Being anointed by the Holy Ghost to minister then The Holy Ghost manifested himself in my ministry because I was standing in the office of a prophet. And. And you will see those manifestations just like you see the manifestations of the Holy Spirit in the Old Testament. Obviously we call them gifts, but they're also called manifestations. Now keep going. You'll see the word of knowledge and the word of wisdom. Jesus is saying all this. I'm quoting Jesus. You'll see the word of knowledge, the word of wisdom, discerning of spirits, gift of special faith, the working of miracles and the gifts of healings, and the gift of prophecy, manifestation all through the Old Testament. And you'll see these gifts in manifestation in my ministry. Every one of them. Now, if you count what he just listed, he listed seven. There's nine. You do not see tongues with interpretation and manifestation in the Old Testament anywhere. Neither do you see tongues and interpretation and manifestation in my ministry. Because speaking with tongues and with interpretation is distinctive of this dispensation that began on the day of Pentecost. And that's the reason you'll have more tongues with interpretation than you will anything else in this dispensation, because they're characteristic of this dispensation. Do you notice he didn't say and the Scripture doesn't say it has to be in a service. In fact, it says, when you speak in tongues, pray that you'll interpret. So that's meaning that if you're in a service and tongues come on, you, interpretation will always follow. But by implication, to say, to ask if you'll interpret. You don't have to do that in a service because Paul said, don't speak in tongues without the interpretation, because you'll bring confusion. So in a service, I don't have to ask to interpret. One tongues, another interprets. Or one could pray and interpret the same person. You don't have to ask because it has to happen in public, otherwise there'll be confusion. So when he says ask, he has to be talking privately because there's no confusion. If you're private, there's nobody else around. So what did he say? Pray in tongues and ask that you'd interpret. It's still the gift of the interpretation of tongues as the Spirit wills. But you are told to ask the Spirit to will privately. I'm saying this for a point. That means every single day when you're speaking in other tongues, you have the right to ask God to let you interpret. He may not let you because it's a gift, as the Spirit wills. But every believer can interpret by the gift. If they ask, and God will, I believe, with every single believer, choose to give at least these gifts of tongues and interpretation. He may not give every other gift to you, but he'll give those if you'll ask because you're told to ask. Why would God say ask if he wasn't going to give it? That would be mean. It's like holding a carrot and say ask and then pulling it away. God is saying, ask. Why ask? The Bible says that you may receive. If any man asks, he will receive. If you don't ask, you won't receive. So if Jesus says, ask me for the gift, ask the Holy Spirit for the gift, he's basically saying, he's hinting, if you ask, I'll give it. But notice he only mentions that about tongues and interpretation. He doesn't mention that about any of the other gifts. Why? Because they're characteristic for this dispensation. Do you understand that? Jesus said to Kenneth Hagin, that's why you'll have more tongues with interpretation than any other gift in this dispensation. The church age, because it's distinctive for this dispensation. That's why every believer. You may not have all the gifts operate, but every believer has a right for these two gifts to operate because you are told to ask. And he wouldn't tell you to ask if he wasn't going to give it. But he does want you to show reverence for it. He wants you to have knowledge about it. And he wants you to say, lord, please let me interpret and speak out in tongues. And then he will allow you to interpret as he wills. And it doesn't happen every time you pray, but it will happen more regularly than any of the other gifts. Do you understand? Are you with me? Jesus is explaining something very important to us. So how many of you, and this is rhetorical, it's 9:01. I've got to 9:15. Jesus already told me you can go to 9:15 every Wednesday night from now on. So that's fine. How many of you interpret your own tongues on a regular basis? Don't put your hands up. But I'm asking you an honest question, because I would venture to say that 90% of you don't. Why? You don't have knowledge. You don't know. That's why we're teaching this after this course. In fact, after tonight, that percentage should go 90% are not to 90% are, because all it is is a lack of knowledge. That's the only reason you're not getting it, because you don't know. But you are allowed to ask. You know, sometimes I'll be speaking in other tongues because I'm not thinking about the interpretation. My attitude is, I pray in tongues. I'm not trying to interpret everything. I just speak in other tongues. And the Holy Spirit will prompt me because he's my best friend. And I'll hear a little prompting on the inside. Ask me. I can't tell you how many times that's happened. Thousands of times. And I'll say, holy Spirit, thank you. Thank you. I should have been thinking about this, but I'm not because I don't want to bug you. Holy Spirit, would you please let me. Boom. That anointing comes, and that gift comes on me right away. I can feel that gift come right on me. And I start to interpret. This is in my prayer closet. This is not in a service. This is privately in my car, in the shower, cooking. Whatever I'm doing, I'm alone. Nobody's around me. But I'll hear him say, ask me, holy Spirit, I'm asking you according to 1 Corinthians 14, would you please allow me? It's right there. Other times, he doesn't prompt me, but I want to know what I'm saying because I'm curious. And I'll say, holy Spirit, please would you let me interpret? And sometimes five minutes later, 10 minutes later, half an hour later, that will come. But many times it doesn't come. More often than not, it doesn't come. So if I'm only praying to interpret my motives wrong, I pray in tongues. To pray in tongues. I can ask. And he will sometimes. And he won't other times. But when he prompts me, he always says it 100%. Should you wait for him to prompt you? No. Ask him. The Bible tells you to ask him. Why? Because every believer should be having tongues. An interpretation of tongues, operating in their private life on a regular basis. Are you hearing me? Every believer should be having the gift of tongues and interpretation of tongues operating in their private life on a regular basis. I didn't say a daily basis. I said a regular basis. It is still as the Spirit wills. But you are told to ask. And it is the only gift that God gives you permission to ask for. Why? Because he wants to give it. Why? Because it's distinctive. You'll see it happen more than any of the other gifts in the New Testament. Why? You won't see it happen more in the service. People have said to me, well, you know, we should see more in the service. You're ignorant. It's not that it should happen more in the services. It's happening more in the distinctive church age because there are billions of Christians around the world and everybody in their personal homes should be having this operate. Do you understand? So it's not about are we failing? Because it's not happening in the church service that much, because it's supposed to be happening in your homes. That's where it's supposed to be happening most. Do you understand? Now, obviously we want it more in the church service. And I've been talking to God about that and I've been saying, holy Spirit, I'm open and I'm desirous, so just let me know. Because this pulpit is your pulpit, it's not my pulpit. And I don't just want it on Holy Ghost services. I want it on any service. And I don't just want it in service. I want it in that counseling room. And I don't just want it there. I want it in my staff meeting because the gifts give me profit. So I'm talking to God about this myself, about my personal life and this church. But what I'm saying is it's not that because we don't have it as much in the service. That's not even the context of this as much as it is in the personal lives of individual believers. You're supposed to be having this at home. And can I say one more thing? If some of you would get more proficient with learning how to operate in these two gifts at home, we would have it more in the services. Do you understand? Because you would know that flow. And then all of a sudden somebody comes up and taps me or Pastor Happy on the shoulder and says, I feel I have a message. When's the last time that happened? But you can. I feel I have a message in tongues. I'll check my spirit. Holy Spirit, is this okay, a check or a peace? I have a peace. Go ahead. Now, somebody has to interpret. So I'm going to wait for somebody to come up interpret. And if nobody comes up to interpret, which has happened many times, then I'll step in as the authority and I'll interpret it. Do you understand? But why don't we have more people tapping him on the shoulder? See, you don't have the right to interrupt the service and just scream out. If you do that, I'll shut you up. Because that's out of divine order. And dad Hagin taught us that. And anytime people did that in his services, the ushers carried them out. You have to understand Divine order. But that doesn't mean because of divine order that we should have a lack. You have to come and ask permission. I feel I have something. Tongues and interpretation of tongues or prophecy. That's the utterance case. The person who is governing that service, interpreting that service, has to check their spirit to say, is this the right time or not? And if it's not the right time, you can't get offended. That's why a lot of pastors don't do this, because people get offended and leave the church. Well, you're not recognizing my gift. Well, first of all, it's not your gift. It's the Holy Spirit's gift through you. So stop taking ownership of that gift. Well, the Lord uses me this way. That's fine. He may have regularity, but it doesn't mean it's yours. Where does it say it's the gifts of Rosita? Where does it say it's the gifts of the believer? It calls them the manifestations of the Spirit because he owns them. Do you understand? He may give them and manifest them through you, but he owns them. So you don't own that. Well, you're not recognizing my gift. No, it's got nothing to do with you. You're just the hose. The water is what we're talking about. It's coming through you. And when you wanted to do it, the Holy Ghost didn't want it done at that time. Well, who do you think you are? I think I'm the pastor. So shut up. If you want to do it, get your own church. I have to interpret the service. You're not with me. When he spanks me in the green room, I'm there alone. It's not right now, but then later on, sometimes you say, now do it. Well, I don't feel the anointing. That's because you have no idea how the gifts operate. You don't need to feel the anointing. You step out in faith and that gift will operate. Do you understand? But other times he says, yes, do it right now. And then that will come prophecy or tongues interpreted, and what happens? The whole body is edified. Now, that operation is not to say yay. That's a yay. And again I say yay. You know, the lady in the back, second row in blue? You are a witch. No, because a lot of churches do this nonsense. That operation is never for judgment. It's never for correction and it's never for foretelling that has to come through an office. But that operation is to edify that Means build up, exhort, which means encourage and comfort, bring people peace. So in these public demonstrations of these three utterance gifts, everybody in the congregation should be encouraged, built up, edified and comforted. Why don't we have this more promise of life? Well, maybe you don't know so you can come and tap Pastor Happy on the shoulder. Don't tap me because I don't know what I'm likely to do. I might think it's an angel and turn and whatever, don't come to me, go to him. That's the divine order. Okay? But he'll come to me and he's in every service and I'll check my spirit and if it's okay, we'll do it. But you know why we don't have this in our church the way we should is not just because you don't know to come tap him on the shoulder, because many of you do know that rule. Some of you here, I can tell you don't, because the way you're looking at me, but many of you do. Do you know why we don't have it? Because none of you do this at home. I'm trying to help you. You are completely ignorant of how the gifts operate. You don't have it at home. You don't ask God to interpret, and sometimes he'll let you and sometimes he won't. And you don't even know when he's prompting you to ask him because he's about to give it to you. And you don't even ask. Because if you don't understand this flow in the private life because it's distinctive for the church age, you are less likely to recognize it in a public service. Why? Why are you listening to me? I'm trying to help you. I don't know if you're listening or not. I'm trying to help you because in a public service, you're nervous. I have to do a microphone. And what if I stumble? What if I stutter? And you know, and it's easy to just speak in tongues. Nobody knows what you're saying. But the interpretation, boy, that's a little bit more scary. What if I'm not saying it right? What if I stumble over my words? What if people laugh at me? See, there's a bit of a nerve wracking thing here. But you see, when you're at home, it's not nervous because nobody's there but you. And you learn at home to become proficient in it. Then when you're proficient, you're not nervous. Then when you feel that gift come and you say, I think God's going to use me today to bless the entire congregation with the word of edification, exhortation and comfort. Holy Spirit, what a privilege. Thank you. I sense that on me now, I'm not the boss, so if it's right, you better tell Pastor Craig. But I'm ready. And if I'm missing this or it's not the right time, or it's just not, I think I've got it, but I don't got it. And he tells me, no, Lord, I'm not going to get offended. I'm not going to get offended, because it's not about getting offended, but I'm ready to bless the church. Now, you've got to be the kind of person that has the right motive, because some people, they want to bless the church every service because all they want to be is heard. And dad Hagin talks about sister big hair and sister big mouth and sister this person and brother that person. Every service, they've got a message because all they want to be is heard. And the Holy Ghost wasn't in it. They just like the microphone. So your motive has to be pure. But why do people not do this more? Because they don't know they're nervous, first of all. They don't know they can if they know they can. But they still don't because they haven't practiced it. So they're not comfortable with that. But if you practice this at home and get into that flow on a regular basis, because Jesus said it is distinctive of this age. And we will have more of tongues and interpretation than any other gift. And it's the only one that you're told to ask for, which means he wants to give it. Not when you choose, but when he chooses. But he will give it. If you ask at some points if we'll do it, you'll get so comfortable with that flow at home, all those nerves will dissipate. You'll become skillful with that flow. And then when you know that's there because you know what it feels like at home now, it's the same thing in the church service. It's no different. You just go and say, I think I got something. And the Holy Ghost says, yes. And then somebody, they send a beautiful message in tongues, and then somebody interprets that message. And the whole body is built up, commerce of life. I want this, but you've got to learn how to. I'll close by saying this. Do you know how my spiritual father, Dr. Dufresne got born again. Do you know how he got born again? Tongues and interpretation of tongues. Because Billy Frazier, I'm going to give Billy a big hug when I get to heaven. Kept telling him to come, ask him to come to church. And he kept cussing at him. So when you talk to people, they're going to cuss at you. So don't worry about it. They're sinners. That's all they know. Don't talk to them about their confession. They're supposed to cuss. They're sinners cussing at him. You leave me alone. This is Dr. Dufresne. And Billy wouldn't quit. And eventually he said, if I come, will you quit talking to me about Jesus? And he said, if you come, I'll never talk to you about it again. So Dr. Dufresne thought, well, this is a great way to get out of this. So he showed up at church on a Sunday night service. And what happened a little. I think it's kind of humorous since God gave him a Filipino couple to pray for him. But a little Filipino couple stood up and one of the Filipino couple began to speak out in tongues. And the other Filipino couple, in their Filipino accent, interpreted the tongues. And in that supernatural moment, God revealed himself to Dr. Dufresne. And he said to him, he said, you've heard him say it if you've ever listened to him. He said, I knew God was real and it wasn't because of the preacher. But when they did that strange language and then they give the definition of that language, he said, I felt God's power come on me. I knew because of the gifts, God was real. And he went to the front and gave his heart to Jesus because of a Filipino couple doing the distinctive age, church age tongues. And how many more people would get saved if we would just let the gifts operate more, you understand? Then he said, pastor, see, that's what most people should do when they're saved, but they're not because they don't have the right heart. He said, what do I do? What can I do? What do you mean, what can I do? Well, I'm a Christian. I've got to do something for God. You see the way that's right thinking, I'm not just going to sit around, I've got to do something for God. It's not works. You're already saved. You're not earning it, but I need to do something. And he said, well, I don't really have much to do, but you could clean the toilets, okay? And he started that next week, cleaning the toilets. And of course, nobody told him, but he really, truly thought Jesus was about to walk in and inspect what he did. So he did those toilets to a glistening shine. Then he realized that Jesus doesn't come in to inspect the toilets, but the pastor does. But then he realized, well, I'm not doing this for the pastor, I'm doing it for Jesus. So he maintained the glistening shine. And then he was promoted and promoted and promoted because he was faithful. Then he became a deacon. Then he helped build the church. Then he quit his job to build the church. Then he worked as a janitor in the nighttime all night long. Then he went to the dumpster to get food for his family because he didn't have enough money. This is Dr. Dufresne. Not everything is a bed full of roses. But God saw his. Then the man gave him the business. Then he worked and he paid off his debts. Then he sold his house to go and be in the conference that God told him to be in. And as a result, he connected with his spiritual father and received that special anointing to kill cancer. That's a two minute summary. But it started with cleaning a toilet. But it started with tongues and interpretation. We need to have it more. Don't abuse it, but go home and start to say holy Spirit. You told me I could ask you. I'm asking you. And if he doesn't do it, don't force it. But you'll know when that interpretation comes and start getting comfortable, flowing with it. And as you get comfortable, then once in a while, if not once in a while, as the Spirit wills, if you feel that you've got something, come and tap him on the shoulder. And if I feel it's the right time in a service, I'll let it go. And if it's not, I'll say no and don't get offended. But if you do give it and then the interpretation, or somebody else gives the interpretation, or you could give the interpretation and your interpretation is off. I cannot correct you privately because you've made your error public. Do you understand? So I have to correct you publicly. This is the biggest reasons pastors don't allow it in their church. Because so many people miss it and then they get offended and leave the church. But I'm not afraid of that. Because I think we have good people that know that know my heart and that they're willing to step out of the boat. Hallelujah. We'll end it there. We'll pick it up next time. But remember what he said, you'll have more tongues with interpretation than anything else that means any other of the seven gifts in this dispensation because they're characteristic of the church age. Hallelujah. So we should have it more. Praise God. Don't force it. Don't try to make something up. But you'll sense when that. When that power comes on you, that anointing comes on you. It's really the gift manifesting through you for you to start speaking out in a known language what you've been saying in an unknown language. And it's wonderful, and it will bring you a lot of profit in your own life. You'll know things about business, you'll know things about, you know, Pastor Johnny, you know, Pastor Debbie's husband. They couldn't fix this machine at work. Do you hear him tell that story? And they got professional contractors that knew that machine, they couldn't fix it. He doesn't know nothing about a machine. But he just went, holy Ghost, I need you to help me because I need a promotion. And if I can fix this machine, they'll promote me. That's called profit. So he prayed in tongues, standing in front of the machine, and he got the interpretation, and he knew exactly where the error was. And he opened the panel, he went in, and he fixed it. An unqualified man, but with somebody that has an advantage. And the machine started working perfectly. The boss was so shocked, he gave him a promotion. So tongues and interpretation can help you at work. It can give you knowledge about the job interview that's about to come. It can teach you what your company needs. It can teach you what your business needs. We have not tapped the power of just these two gifts can change everything. Heavenly Father, I could go all night, but I won't. So I thank you for what Jesus is teaching us. Because this vision that he received was not just for him. It was for the body of Christ. It was for all of us. It is not limited to him only. And what you're teaching can impact us greatly. And everything that we are seeing, you're telling him on September 2, 1950, is lining up with the Word. We don't take visions over the Word. It must be be with the Word. But everything that is being said is the Word. And we can see that clearly. So, Holy Spirit, thank you for teaching us tonight. And Lord, I'm not just teaching them just simple doctrine. I'm trying to apply it to their daily lives. I'm trying to apply it to this local church. And when we talk about these two gifts, even though we're talking about the power gifts. But Jesus, you're talking in this vision about the two utterance gifts. And as we focus on that, I pray that a hunger would come into every person within the sound of my voice right now, a revelation that you desire to use them in these two gifts more than any other gift, because it's distinctive of the church age, and they're part of the church age. And all they have to do is ask. And they can't force it. And you may not always give it, but you will at times. And if you prompt them, they should certainly ask because it will come right there and it will give us advantage and profit to know things by the interpretation of tongues. Lord, I pray that this would become more familiar to them and not so scary and not so strange in their private lives so that they can begin to operate as the Spirit wills in our church services. Because, Father, many people would be blessed if people would begin to tap into as the Spirit wills and allow God to manifest through them in this capacity. Dr. Dufresne got saved through this. It is very important that promise of life increase its skillfulness privately and publicly of these two utterance gifts. And really the prophecy is connected to that, these three gifts. So I thank you, Lord, that let this light a little fire in every heart, that they have not tapped into the power of these gifts and that it can bring them great advantage in life. Let them go and start to seek you about it. And I thank you, Holy Spirit, that according to your will. This is one area. We can pray that. We can't pray that in many areas, but this is one area. It is scriptural to say, if thy will, give us these gifts, we desire them, we need them. Profit us through them. Bless the church and bless our lives with them. In Jesus name we pray. And everybody said amen.