On a WILD Psicoactivo, we finally have Jordan Jozak lifting the lid off the darker aspects of the GATE Program. He also discusses under which circumstances he met Jake Barber and eventually became part of Skywatcher. But perhaps more mysteriously, he describes how he interacted with an orb that was sentient & referred to some as a 'relic'. And this relic had a name; it was Sylvia.

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Jordan Jozak on American Alchemy: https://youtu.be/PiFbeWfA3LM?si=nCkIOxNeQO12Ru8m

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