Are the Broncos Officially the Runaway Favorites to Win the AFC West?

Summary

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PTI Podcast Summary: "Are the Broncos Officially the Runaway Favorites to Win the AFC West?"

Date: November 17, 2025
Hosts: Tony Kornheiser & Michael Wilbon

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Episode Overview

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon tackle the NFL’s most pressing questions following a dramatic football weekend, with a special focus on the Denver Broncos’ last-second win over the Kansas City Chiefs. They analyze implications for the AFC West, dissect key NFC results, discuss quarterback performances, and touch on college football headlines. The episode is rich with heated opinions, playful banter, and vintage PTI candor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Broncos vs. Chiefs: AFC West Shakeup

[01:00–04:34]

• Denver wins 22-19 over Kansas City on a last-second field goal, moving to 9-2; Chiefs now at 5-5.
• Wilbon: Expected Chiefs to win, especially with Andy Reid's post-bye record. "Denver is a better team right now."
• Acknowledges Denver’s formidable defense:

  "If Mahomes and Andy Reid coming out of a bye can't solve it, then it's a pretty damn good defense." – Wilbon [01:31]

• Playoff implications:

  "Division now goes through Denver... Kansas City’s fighting for a wild card, not hosting this time." – Wilbon [02:13]

• Tony highlights the Chiefs' regression in close games:

  "Last year’s Chiefs were 11-0 in one-score games. This year’s Chiefs are 0-5." – Kornheiser [02:32]

• Broncos excel in close games, compared to the Eagles’ profile:

  "Denver is now 7-2 in one-score games. The analogous team to me in the other conference is the Philadelphia Eagles." – Kornheiser [03:11]

• Bo Nix’s steady performance:

  “Not flashy, but quietly competent. I understand why Sean Payton got rid of Russell Wilson and brought in Nix.” – Kornheiser [04:10]

• Wilbon’s summary:

  "They've earned our benefit of the doubt for now." – Wilbon [04:27]

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2. NFC’s Marquee Games: Defense Rules

[04:38–07:54]

• Rams beat Seattle 21-19; Eagles stifle Detroit 24-9.
• Tony unimpressed by Rams’ inability to capitalize on turnovers:

  "The Rams should have won that game by 20 points... They didn't cash in." – Kornheiser [05:02]

• Eagles praised for consistent, high-quality wins:

  "They are 8-2 and... here’s who they've beaten: Rams, Packers, Bucs, Chiefs, Lions. Nobody has an array of wins like that." – Kornheiser [05:12]

• Wilbon frames Eagles as misunderstood by their own fans:

  "They're unhappy because they don't score 70 points a game... What wins championships, we're told over the decades? Defense." – Wilbon [06:30] "What else you want the Eagles to do? They win." – Wilbon [06:54]

• Tony:

  "They're plus-33 in point differential, that's 11th in the league... Not awesome, but they are the number one seed in the NFC." – Kornheiser [06:56]

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3. Surprising 7-3 Teams: Bills vs. Bears

[07:54–11:00]

• Bills defeat Bucs 44-32 (Josh Allen: 6 total TDs), Bears win another last-second thriller against Minnesota.
• Wilbon stands by Buffalo:

  "This isn't close. It's Buffalo." – Wilbon [08:28]

• Tony pushes Wilbon about not picking the Bears, referencing Wilbon’s preseason pessimism:

  "You said, I fear they're going to go 0-5. That's an exact quote. So they went 0-2, and then they have won seven of their last eight games." – Kornheiser [09:31]

• Bears’ negative point differential (-6) despite strong record amused both.

  "How is that possible? How could you have this record?" – Kornheiser [09:58]

• Playoff projection for the Bears:

  "Can you get to 10 [wins]?" – Kornheiser [10:52]
  "I'm saying 10." – Wilbon [11:00]

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4. Mail Time: Ravens/Browns & Shedeur Sanders' Debut

[12:59–15:48]

• Biggest takeaway: Browns rookie QB Shedeur Sanders' poor debut vs. Ravens' steady win.
• Wilbon critical of Browns coaching:

  "This is garbage... Stefanski, not brilliant. Never giving that kid a snap." – Wilbon [14:32, 15:36] "It was all about Shedeur." – Wilbon [13:29]

• Tony calls Sanders’ performance:

  "He was terrible. He was 4 of 16 for 47 yards and a bad interception. I assume he'll be better next time, because he cannot be worse." – Kornheiser [14:39]

  • Praises Ravens' game-sealing play:

  "They won on a brilliant call... tight end under center as if it's a tush push, he runs around for 35 yards. Brilliant." – Kornheiser [15:29]

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5. Most Compelling College Football Result

[15:54–17:52]

• Oklahoma upsets Alabama at home highlighted as weekend’s top result.

  "The most compelling win was Oklahoma at Alabama because it’s at Alabama." – Wilbon [17:08]

• Discussion on playoff implications and SEC bias:

  "Do you think there’ll be a three-loss SEC team in the playoffs?" – Kornheiser [17:52] "Yeah, they'll do it. The committee—it’s gutless." – Wilbon [17:57]

• Tony also notes comeback wins and individual performances elsewhere.

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6. Happy Time & Final Thoughts

[21:07–25:53]

• Tributes to college basketball legends Jim Boeheim and Bill Cartwright.
• Injury updates: Falcons' Michael Penix Jr. out with a knee injury; Aaron Rodgers pushes to return for the Steelers.
• Rapid-fire reaction to NFL and NBA storylines:
  • Paul George's season debut for the Clippers.
  • Jets benching Justin Fields for Tyrod Taylor.
  • Skepticism about Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua fight (“Jake Paul interests me not at all.” – Wilbon [25:17])
  • Cowboys vs. Raiders on Monday Night Football (“Would have been a great game in the 70s” – Kornheiser [25:31])
  • Pistons’ expected continued win streak.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On the Broncos-Chiefs swing:
  “If Mahomes and Andy Reid coming out of a bye can’t solve it, then it’s a pretty damn good defense.” – Wilbon [01:31]
• On Chiefs regression:
  “Last year’s Chiefs were 11-0 in one-score games. This year’s Chiefs are 0-5.” – Kornheiser [02:32]
• On Eagles’ fans:
  “They’re unhappy because they don’t score 70 points…I'm sorry, what wins championships? Defense.” – Wilbon [06:30]
• On Bears fans’ angst:
  “You know because you're on the phone with me late in the fourth quarter…I'm so angry I want to fire the bench.” – Wilbon [08:44]
• On college football committee:
  “Yeah, they'll do it. The committee—it’s gutless. It's gutless as a room.” – Wilbon [17:57]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Broncos-Chiefs Analysis: [01:00–04:34]
• Eagles & Rams Defensive Wins: [04:38–07:54]
• Bills vs. Bears Debate: [07:54–11:00]
• Mailbag: Ravens, Browns, Shedeur Sanders: [12:59–15:48]
• College Football Weekend: [15:54–17:52]
• Happy Time (Tributes, Injury Updates, Rapid Fire): [21:07–25:53]

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Tone & Style

Conversational, playful, and opinionated—Wilbon and Kornheiser banter and rib each other while providing sharp, occasionally hyperbolic insights ("gutless," "garbage," "brilliant"), never shying away from strong judgments or humor.

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This summary offers a comprehensive overview of the main topics, flavor, and key debates featured on the November 17, 2025 episode of PTI—perfect for anyone who missed the show but wants the full rundown.

Transcript

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[B]

Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbon. Tony. I don't know if I could take another last second Bears win.

[C]

I'm Tony Kornheiser. Gotcha Bears. Wilbon would prefer that you lose.

[B]

No, no.

[C]

But they're so you can take it.

[B]

At least months off my life. Every week it's the same game.

[C]

But Northwestern did the same thing. Except Northwestern lost.

[B]

Tough weekend.

[C]

So I needed a split. Are you checking out soon? I just want to know.

[B]

I needed a sp.

[C]

You gotta split. You're okay.

[B]

Homicide.

[C]

Welcome to pti, boys and girls. In today's episode, the Rams and Eagles post big wins. The Bills top the Bucks and the Bears come back again. But we begin today with the Denver Broncos beating their arch rivals, the Kansas City Chiefs, yesterday 22:19 on a last second field goal. Denver is now 9 and 2. Kansas City is now 5 5. And this is the latest in the season. The Chiefs have been 500 since before Patrick Mahomes became their starter. Wilbon, what does this result say to you about each team?

[B]

Tony, this was a big swing game, cuz I expected the Chiefs to win. I kept waiting on Mahomes to have a moment that eclipsed Denver and it didn't come. And I, as I, I did say for Denver's tough at home, just like Kansas City's tough at home. Denver is a better team right now. I don't know if they'll be that in February. They're a better team right now. That defense is really difficult. If Mahomes and Andy Reid coming out of a buy can't solve it, then it's a pretty damn good defense. All right.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

They now control the division. Yeah. And the Kansas City Chiefs who are like tied for ninth with some people, like maybe the Jaguars and they've lost.

[C]

They're behind the Jaguars.

[B]

They're behind the Jaguars. They're going to have to first of all play their way into a wild card spot. Which now means road doesn't go through Kansas City and Arrowhead. It doesn't.

[C]

All true.

[B]

And so it may go through Denver and Denver's as good as anybody in the AFC right now. You mentioned the best record.

[C]

Yeah, I'm not going to disagree with anything you said, including the fact that I thought they would win. I thought they would win because they were coming out of a buy and Andy Reid is 22 and four coming out of buys. And I thought they would win because I thought it was more important to them than it was to Denver. So I'm a little bit shocked at what is going on here. But I will say this and maybe you felt the same way. These are not last year's Chiefs. Last year's Chiefs were 110 in one score games. This year's Chiefs are 0 and 5.

[B]

You know how many straight games they won? One score games overall. Going back further, 17.

[C]

They're 05 this year.

[B]

05.

[C]

And Patrick Mahomes wasn't great yesterday.

[B]

No, he wasn't.

[C]

He wasn't. Last year's Patrick Mahomes, he had a bad interception. He had inopportune sacks. I thought when Kelsey went into the end zone I thought this is it. Chiefs are going to win as I expected. But the next and last two times they had their hands on the ball, they went three and out. Denver is what you say they are. Denver is now 72 in one score games. The analogous team to me in the other conference is the Philadelphia Eagles. A team that seems to play defense first but their offense is good enough. The Kansas City, not Kansas City. Denver has now won three in a row. One score games over the following people. Kansas City, the Raiders and Houston. Not great. Six of seven, including the Giants, the Jets and the Eagles. But two of those wins are Kansas City and the Eagles. Those are big time wins. And I will say Bo Nix, the analogy for me is to Jalen Hurts. Not a flashy guy, but quietly competent. Seems to know what he's doing. I understand why Sean Payton got rid of Russell Wilson and brought in Knicks. Mike, the top. Unlike the nfc, the top of the AFC is all surprises. It's Indianapolis, it's Denver, it's New England. It's all surprises.

[B]

It might still be Buffalo too.

[C]

I'm just saying right now that's the top.

[B]

Here's what to me, the bottom line on that game is yesterday in Denver. They've earned our benefit of the doubt for now.

[C]

100%. 100% won the game week or two. Yeah, yeah, right.

[B]

Let's move to the NFC's marquee games in which defense ruled the day and night. The Rams shut Seattle down, intercepted Sam Darnold four times in route to a 21:19 win. The Eagles defense smothered the Lions, limited Jared Goff to 38% passing and Detroit to just nine points. Tony, which win impressed you more?

[C]

Well, it's not going to be the Rams because the Rams should have won that game by 20 points. They intercepted Darnold four times. So much for you anointing him as the MVP in the league.

[B]

Not the MVP.

[C]

Right, but the Rams.

[B]

But they almost want Seattle.

[C]

Let me get to this. They didn't cash in. The Rams did not cash in. They didn't cash in. And so Amazingly, they were five feet away from losing that game. A 61 yard field goal attempt goes wide right by five feet in the last play of the game. So it's not going to be them. So for me, it's going to be the Eagles. Right? That. That what they did. And they win by defense as well. I've got some notes here on the eagles. They are 8 and 2 and I tried to come up with an exact word that would fit them. Here's who they've beaten this year. The Rams, the Packers, the Bucs, the Chiefs, the Lions. Nobody has an array of wins like that. Nobody has an array of wins like that so far this year. Right. They limited. You mentioned nine points on this game the week before. Green Bay seven. 16 points is all they've done, those two teams. Yeah, right. So to me, the word is competent. The Eagles are just damn competent at this point.

[B]

Beyond that, and I agree with everything you just said, I spent all late last night after this game and as the game was waning, fighting with my friends from Philly, particularly My man, Dwayne McKnight, one of my dearest friends, who I want to say.

[C]

Shut up.

[B]

So I'm telling him now on national TV to shut his mouth because he represents a large part of Eagles nation.

[C]

They're unhappy.

[B]

They're unhappy because they don't score 70 points a game and they're not running up and down the field. I'm sorry, what wins championships, we're told over the decades. Defense. Well, you know what they did?

[C]

They have defense.

[B]

You know what Goff did last night? Goff? Raw numbers.

[C]

Oh, they made goff look terrible.

[B]

14 for 37. You know whose line that is? That's a Ja Morant line at Oklahoma City. They took him out.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

What else you want the Eagles to do? They win this week.

[C]

So here's what's interesting. They are winning the close games in the way that Denver is they are whatever their record is 8 and 2, 9. It doesn't really matter. They're plus 33 in point differential. That's 11th in the league. That's not awesome. And they're doing this. And as you say they limited gov. I would say that right now they are without question the number one seed in the nfc cuz they've beaten the Rams one. So they're one. So if you are in Philadelphia, thank God they've stopped saying fire Nick Sirianni. They've won 24 their last 27, including something we call the Super Bowl. So what more do you want?

[B]

We've reached the time saying.

[C]

I'm not saying they're great, but they're good.

[B]

There's so much just discussion and there's so much media that people just have to say something no matter how stupid it is and no matter how just uninformed it is 24 and 3 and they've beaten all comers. They're the champ. They've welcomed whomever homer road and taken them out.

[C]

And people want more with good defenses. This was a bad week for Darnold and Goff. It was a bad week for them and they were in the discussion. We will stay with the NFL here and talk about a couple of seven three teams, one of which is a complete surprise. The Bills beat Tampa Bay yesterday in a fabulous shootout. Rather 44, 32. Josh Allen personally accounted for six touchdowns and a fantasy football score of about 6 million. And your Bears, Mike beat Minnesota on a last second field goal. Beat them on the road in division. Wilbon. Of course this question comes to you being a Bears fan. Which 7 and 3 team do you think more highly of?

[B]

This isn't close. It's Buffalo.

[C]

Oh, come on, have some guts. Have some guts. Pick the Bears. Pick the Bears.

[B]

See, here's what I do. I watch the Bears every snap like you watch the Nats.

[C]

I do love the Nats.

[B]

Except the Bears having a little better season than the Nats.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

And I'm thrilled to win these games. Even though you know because you're on the phone with me late in the fourth quarter of this. I'm so angry. How does this go every week? I'm so angry I want to fire the bench.

[C]

Everybody just want to fire everybody until.

[B]

The last play of the game and they win. Start to command. Raiders field goal, last play of the game. Raiders block. Field goal, last play of the game. This is what they do. God bless them. I'm not going to complain. You beat the bad Teams that are in front of you and Joe Gibbs says something I know you and I agree with, we learn from it. We don't agree. It's Joe Gibbs. He said, you win first, then you get good. And I keep hoping that for the Bears, but they're not. Buffalo.

[C]

Buffalo.

[B]

One sentence. Buffalo beat Kansas City. We don't have to win like that.

[C]

Look, this is a very gutless performance from you because you love the Bears so much. And I wanted you to pick the Bears so that I could say, in fact, I would have picked the Bears myself, but it's an irrational pick. But just so I could get you to recount that at the beginning of the season and through the first two games, you said, I fear they're going to go 05. That's an exact point. So they went 02. And then they have won seven of their last eight games. And amazingly, they're doing this. You know what their point differential is?

[B]

Minus six.

[C]

Minus six.

[B]

I do know.

[C]

How is that possible? How could you have this record and.

[B]

Be like, well, they got blowed out by Detroit, 52 to something. So that covers a lot of points right there.

[C]

And I think more highly of Buffalo. Buffalo had to win that game. Buffalo had lost to a terrible team in a terrible game, Miami, the week before. And Josh Allen knew that he had to be good or he would be lambasted for not being good. So how does six touchdowns sound to you? Is it something that you could use? Right.

[B]

The reigning mvp. But, Tony, the Bears had to win that game to go up to Minnesota after they let this rookie punk quarterback. And I say that sort of lovely.

[C]

I wanted Chicago, 10 seconds.

[B]

They lost to him. They had to beat him in a rematch.

[C]

J.J. mcCarthy, this is what I fear for you. I'm going to give you your upcoming scheme.

[B]

I know the upcoming scheme.

[C]

Okay, so home, Pittsburgh, which is.

[B]

We need to win that game.

[C]

That's winnable. Aaron Rodgers at Philly, at Green Bay doesn't look good. Home, Cleveland, winnable.

[D]

Home.

[B]

Packers at 49ers.

[C]

Can you get to 10?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Can you take.

[B]

Can you get to 10? Packers split with the Packers. Cleveland, are you saying 10?

[C]

Pittsburgh, you'll get 10?

[B]

I'm saying 10.

[C]

10.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Let's take a break.

[B]

Don't get greedy.

[C]

Coming up, should we focus more on the Ravens beating the Browns or Shador Sanders struggles as the Cleveland quarterback and.

[B]

Oklahoma beating Alabama grabbed the headlines. But was there a more compelling story in college football this weekend?

[C]

Can I say this?

[B]

What's that?

[C]

That Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay's a good team. They're missing a lot of parts. They are they the Buffalo's win is a good win. They're at home.

[B]

They need to win.

[C]

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Welcome back to Pardon the Interruption presented by Crown Royal, part of happy hour. It is time to hear from the masses in mail time. Let me get the first one and put on my glasses so I can read it. Here we go. What was your bigger takeaway from the Ravens Browns games? The Ravens winning again? Or Shedeur Sanders struggling in his debut?

[B]

It was all about Shedeur. The Ravens were gonna win this game. It's about Shador. Apologies to Myles Garrett, who is the greatest thing ever. But Shador comes in and the only energy you've seen in that stadium in about three years came when that kid goes in the lineup and he goes in and he has a couple completed passes and he has, you know, he gets sacked, he throws a pick and after the game you realize that Kevin Stefanski, even though he's your backup quarterback coming this game, he hasn't allowed this kid to have One snap with the regulars. So. And he has to admit this. And all these coaches double down on what they do to put their players in an advantageous position. This is garbage. And by the way, let me go back and rip Dan Campbell for having his quarterback. And he calls the plays. Now golf. Throw it 37 times with Gibbs and Montgomery. That's bad coaching in a one score game with those guys. I don't want to hear it. And by the way, the officiating in that game was garbage, too. So let's not forget any of that. But, but, but Shador. What is his coach doing?

[C]

Let me make sure you have Stefanski as garbage. You have Campbell as garbage. You have an officiating crew as garbage.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Okay, so I'm going to be brief.

[B]

Garbage.

[C]

I'm. Let me be brief about Shedor Sanders, who I would like to like. He was terrible. He was. He was terrible. He was. He was 4 of 16 for 47 yards and a bad interception. I assume he'll be better the next time because he cannot be worse the next time. But I want to get to something that you and I talked about on the podcast this morning. I gave you a bunch of teams. I gave you the Rams, the Eagles, the packers, the Broncos, the Bills. And I said, what was the best win? And you said the Broncos. And I understand that the best win yesterday was the Baltimore Ravens, because had they lost that game, you're done. To a bad team. They're four and six. They're actually done.

[B]

The Steelers, we don't know what Rogers were.

[C]

They would have been done because everything was momentum with them and they would have been derailed. But they won the game. And not only did they win the game, they won the game on a brilliant call. They put the tight end under center as if it's a tush push.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And he runs around on the right hand side. He goes 35 yards. Mark Anders for a touchdown. Brilliant. Brilliant.

[B]

The other moves, Stefanski, not brilliant. Never giving that kid a snap. And they all had to admit it.

[C]

Don't. Don't go there with me.

[B]

He's stupid to you.

[C]

Stefanski's a Pennsylvania grad. Don't go there.

[B]

Well, he didn't. He didn't.

[C]

Don't go there.

[B]

He was like other Pennsylvania grads yesterday.

[C]

Penn.

[B]

What was your most compelling result of the college football weekend?

[C]

Okay, so I could go for Oklahoma beating Alabama at Alabama. I didn't see that. I didn't see that. I didn't see that coming is what I mean. I saw the game.

[B]

I'LL say I didn't see that.

[C]

Or I could go for Georgia beating Texas 3510 and we need to stop talking about Arch mounting with our expectations. We need to stop about that. I could go for Indiana in the Big Ten beating Wisconsin 317 because Mr. Mendoza went 22 of 24 with four touchdowns. No, that's a Heisman. This is two Heisman weeks in a row for that kid.

[B]

The Penn State game, Mendoza.

[C]

But what I'm going to go for is Texas A and M. Texas A and M down 33 at the half to South Carolina. Now when they come back South Carolina did not give this game away. They didn't fumble it, they didn't throw it away. The other team scored 28 nothing in the second half. So for the second week in a row we have had an unbeaten team almost upset, grandly upset and they come through. This is Indiana against Penn State and this is Texas A and M and South Carolina.

[B]

Look, I watched the South Carolina Texas.

[C]

Please talk about Northwestern was fab.

[B]

No cuz that game brought brought me anger. Yes, great anger.

[C]

Tremendous anger.

[B]

We had Michigan beat in Wrigley Field where I'm told and I've not looked this up. Somebody can correct me can be omissions that Northwestern has never won a game at Wrigley. So let's get the hell out of there. Even though we got Minnesota and Wrigley this week. No, the the game the most compelling win was Oklahoma at because it's at Alabama which means they'll be now trying to fire. Last week they wanted to extend their head coach debore for. For six years and they lose a game and now they're going to fire.

[C]

They're still in the running for the playoffs.

[B]

Yeah but now they got no margin for error.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

That's a great win by Oklahoma.

[C]

Do you think that there will eventually be a three loss team from the SEC in these playoffs this year?

[B]

Yeah, they'll do it. The committee. It's gutless. It's gutless as a room. Together you can justify anything with the SEC or Big Ten because the pressure is there anyway.

[C]

This is such a double G day for you. Gutless and garbage. I'm very proud of you. Not female. Let's take one last break. Still to come, the Falcons get bad news on Michael Penix Jr. And a Sixers star.

[B]

My guy ready to return to the lineup?

[C]

Remember what I told you earlier this morning. I don't want to hear about the Falcons anymore, the Chargers anymore. I just don't want to hear about them. I get that, you know, they're just.

[B]

Stop what's Dan Campbell doing go on that many times for fourth down coach.

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Pardon the interruption is presented by Crown Royal. Please drink responsibly part of happy hour. Happy time people. Happy 81st birthday. Jim Boeheim. Boeheim is our longtime pal, even if he deliberately refers to my Binghamton Bearcats as the Bobcats.

[B]

So funny.

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He is one of the greatest college basketball coaches ever. Boeheim is in both the college basketball in the Naismith halls of fame. Boeheim put Syracuse on the national map. He coached his alma mater to five Final Fours and won it all in 2003 when Carmelo Anthony was a freshman. Boeheim was also an assistant coach on three United States Olympic gold medal basketball teams. Boeheim is now an adjunct professor at Syracuse teaching sports management. We wonder what his lectures are like. Says he tells stories about Mellow and Pearl Washington. Derek Coleman. Is Bayheim a tough grader? Can you get an A if you Insult Georgetown and St. John's Speaking of.

[B]

That, I'm honored to have been there to have covered the Big east in those years. Jim Boeheim and Big John and Luke Carnesecca and Raleigh. Gary Williams. Jim Kelly. Honored to have been there. By the way, who was his best player? Bayheim's best player.

[C]

His best college player was Pearl Washington. He wasn't a great pro, but was.

[B]

It Carmelo made shout at us. We're going with Pearl.

[C]

Happy anniversary. Bill Cartwright. On this day 44 years ago, the then Knicks center tied Bob Pettit's NBA record of 19 straight free throws made without a miss. The memorable thing about Cartwright was his unique free throw technique. It was a series of staccato mechanical moves that ended with his arms extended over his head as he flicked the ball awkwardly towards the basket. Despite this routine that seemed to become less winsome in his later years as the starting center on the Bulls first three peat squad, Cartwright shot a very respectable 77% from the line for his career. Cartwright was a great college player at the University of San Francisco. He remains the school's all time leading scorer. Did you like him? You loved him, right?

[B]

Ring of honor, which he should go into. He anchored that team. When they traded him from New York and the Bulls gave up Charles Oakley, people went crazy at first but it made room for Cartwright and young Horace Grant.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

And that strategy and that's.

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Let me ask a question.

[B]

He had a credit him with the.

[C]

First three peat better than the second three peat.

[B]

I think the 92 team was greater than the 96 team. There's an icon goat who laughs at me when I say this.

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Happy trails. Michael Pench. He's an ending knee injury during Saturday's loss to the Panthers. He will seek out a second opinion but is out at least four weeks. Penix was 13 for 16 for 175 yards before getting hurt with just over five minutes left in the third quarter. Kirk Cousins came in. He went 6 of 14 for 48 yards. The Steelers got better news about their injured quarterback. Aaron Rodgers has a fractured left wrist but is pushing to play on Sunday against your Bears.

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Good.

[B]

I want to see him at Soldier Field. Let's see if he still owns us.

[C]

Let's go. All right, one update. Northwestern is indeed winless at Wrigley Field and a few omissions. Ja' Marr Chase suspended one game for spitting on Jalen Ramsey. Victor Wembanyama has a strained calf, will miss a few weeks. And Virginia Tech and James Franklin are finalizing an agreement for him to become the school's next head football player.

[B]

That seems like a good fit. James Franklin and Virginia Tech to me. When Banyama misses a few weeks. I hate that. But I understand the precaution you take, given what that injury.

[C]

How about Jamar Chase getting a more than one game spitting? Because you know what?

[B]

We've already had this this year and a guy got suspended from the Eagles for no more than one game. It's awful.

[C]

You covered everything we need to cover. Let's go to the big finish. Let's do it. Paul George expected to make his season debut tonight at the Clippers. Is that a big deal?

[B]

I don't know if it's a big deal. The Clippers have fallen and they can't get up. But I'm excited, excited to see Paul George. The jets are benching Justin Fields for Tyrod Taylor. Does that make sense to you?

[C]

Yes. Justin Fields doesn't gain any yards when he completes passes. The jets are last in the league in passing. Jake Paul will fight former heavyweight champ Anthony Joshua on December 19th. You must be intrigued.

[B]

No. Jake Paul interests me not at all. Anthony Joshua, what happened to him? He was on the way up to something and never got there. Monday Night Football tonight, speaking of two fraudulent teams, Cowboys at Raiders, who you got?

[C]

This would have been a great game in the 70s.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

And the 80s.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

And, 90s. And the 90s. It's not. It's not a no. I think it'll have great numbers, but it's not a great game, but I will take the Cowboys. The Pistons go for their 10th straight win tonight. Do you like their chances against the Pacers in Detroit? They're hurting.

[B]

They have no feel bad for them. But we know they don't have players, right? So the Pistons will keep rolling.

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We're out of time. We will try to do better the next time. I'm Tony Kornheim.

[B]

And I'm Mike Wilbon. Same time tomorrow, Knuckleheads.

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