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Pardon the interruption, but I'm Frank Isola. It's National Poetry at Work Day. Tony, you got a poem for us?
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I'm Tony Kornheiser. I'm good with news that's a shocker on most sports I'm a good talker. But one thing I'd savor is if you do me the favor of taking the lead on the soccer.
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You got it.
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Think you can help with that? That would be great, man. Welcome to pti, boys and girls. Wilvon remains on his arctic exped. So I am joined by our great friend from the starting lineup on SiriusXM, Mr. Frank Aizola.
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Wow.
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Okay. And right up Frank's alley. We begin today with Argentina improbably advancing to face Spain in Sunday's World cup final. England scored early in the second half and looked to be headed for the win before Argentina scored late, as it always does to tie the game. And then again in stoppage time for the win. Frank, what do you make of Argentina's win and how they did it?
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So in 86, it was the hand of God. In 98, Beckham gets the red card against Argentina. This was the collapse by England. They looked like they were in control. And Tony, they took that one nil lead. Anthony Gordon, that was a beautiful goal. Morgan Rogers set it up with a beautiful cross and then they just decided to park the bus. They started subbing out offensive players for defensive players and they let Argentina just keep chipping away, you know. And they call England the Three Lions. The heart of the champion belongs, or the heart of a lion, I should say belongs to the defending champs, Argentina all tournament long. Has their road been that tough? Probably not. But they were down to Egypt 2 nothing. They came back and won that game. But to do this against England when Thomas Tuchel, the manager, and he's going to face a lot of criticism, Tony back in England for making all those substitutions. Instead of just keep playing because they look like the better team for most of this match, why not try to score that second goal? So they give up the first on a beautiful shot by Enzo Fernandez, who plays for Chelsea in England, by the way, and then the kid Martinez, who plays over in Italy, had the goal, which by the way, came off the assist from Lionel Messi. That is a brutal, brutal loss for England and another inspiring win for Argentina.
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So I just have a couple of things to say because you've covered the waterfront on this one, is that you say the coach will get some criticism because he went to a defensive mindset. I agree with that. You put the goalie was great, but you put so much pressure on. On the goalie. It looked like in, you know, in the last 20 minutes, all the action is down on the English end. And apparently this is what Argentina does better than any country in the world. They score late. This is their seventh game in the World Cup. This was their 10th and 11th goals after the 75 minute mark. I mean, they are living on the razor's edge, but they do this all the time. Are you surprised? Did you think England had this game?
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I definitely did until they went to that strategy to sit back. Couple of things that are interesting about this game, Tony, which you'll appreciate in 86 and in 98, Argentina, which usually wears the striped jerseys, they went with the dark blue. So the theme was there for them, but England just looked like the better team. I'm surprised they went into that defensive formation. Mexico. England did the same thing against Mexico, but Mexico is not Argentina. They don't have the quality players that could finish the job. And that's what Argentina did.
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They don't have Messi. Messi, now at 39 years old, gets to go for his second straight World Cup. And if they win that, it's going to be hard to make an argument that he is not the goat. It's going to be hard to make that argument. Let's move to last night's All Star Game. The American League got three runs in the top of the first inning off of Christopher Sanchez and didn't need any more than that. They got one more in the eighth inning on a home run by the White Sox. Miguel Vargas. The game was a strikeout bonanza. 11 AL pitchers struck out 15 NL batters and 9 NL pitchers struck out 12 AL batters. Frank, how would you characterize last night's All Star Game?
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I kind of think it's symbolic of baseball today. It's a lot of relief pitchers and a lot of strikeouts. And we've talked so much about the National League not having Shohei Ohtani in the game even as a pitcher. But Misarowski, right, and Paul Skeens if they played what I mean, maybe the American League also strikes out 15 times. So I get it. A lot of people didn't like the game and I think it's kind of symbolic of where we are with baseball today. I think having Ohtani in the game to hit, he probably would have had two at bats at least. Maybe that changes things. But how about the fact that Cody Bellinger ends up being the MVP of the game with a two out single in the first inning that essentially tells you nothing else happened. And how about the night for the Phillies? They're three batters, you know, Marsh, Schwaber and also Harper. They go a combined over five with four strikeouts. So Philly put on a great show. Philadelphia did. The Phillies did not. Last night.
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I'm going to agree with just about everything you said, but I'm going to start with a true story. I was watching the game last night with my son and my grandsons. Bellinger gets that hit up the middle in the first inning. Then Rice follows with the exact same hit right up the middle. And so now it's three nothing in the top of the first. And I turn to my son and I say, I think that's it. And he just sort of looks at me. I said, no, I think that's it. We're not even out of the top of the first. I watch two or three more innings and I go to bed confident that that game is over, because it is over. At a ridiculously early point in an All Star game, I felt terrible for Sanchez. That's got to be one of his worst innings all year. Two walks, three hits, three earned. I'm going to agree with you. You could say that your impression is the game was boring, but it speaks to the reality of baseball right now, that if you can throw a great pitcher out there and ask him to just one inning, that's all you got to give me, is one inning. That's going to blunt hitters. 27 of the 54 outs were strikeouts. That's unbelievable. And the National League had been crushing the American League in interleague play. But that's because you can't do this. You can't throw 11 pitchers out there every single night. It's not how it works in real baseball. And to your point about Philadelphia, they put on a great show in the city where the Declaration of Independence was signed in the 250th year of America. But boy, oh boy, Sanchez got rocked. Wheeler didn't even show. And as you say, they're hitters. 0 for 5 with 4Ks. That was tough. Tough for Philly fans. Tough.
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Yeah. And then. And then Dylan Cease, he opens. You know, he's the starting pitcher for the American league. He did walk a batter in the first, but he struck out three. So it made you think, you know what? It could be one of those nights. And how about the fact the game, 2 hours and 45 minutes. That's actually pretty quick for an all star game. There's no doubt about it. All right, let's move to the British Open, which tees off at 1:35am Eastern Time. Scotty Scheffler is defending champ and favorite, but missed the cut for the first time in nearly four years at last week's Scottish Open. Tony, do you see Scheffler as the favorite at Royal Burkdale?
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No, no, not as the favorite. Look, I don't put much stock in the fact that he missed the cut at the Scottish Open. There are a lot of people who miss a cut and come back and win a tournament in the next week. What I put stock in is he'd never even seen the course until the practice round three or four days ago. So I don't know how comfortable he's going to be at Royal Burktor. I was talking this morning with Steve Sands, our good friend from the golf Channel. He's over there. And Sands said to me, look, this course is baked. It has been so dry and it has been so hot that you can get 400 yards with your driver, considering the role on this course. And he said, I will bet you that people don't even take their drivers out, that they play their long irons, that they can control better and. And still get 300 yards with the roll. And he mentioned Colin Morikawa to me, who is probably the best iron player in the entire world. He mentioned Rory McIlroy and went, oh, wait, Rory. He's great with the driver. And he said, yeah, but Rory's also a great long iron player. And he also mentioned Tommy Fleetwood, a great long iron player. The problem, he felt there'd be a lot of pressure on Fleetwood because Fleetwood is from that area, lives an hour away, and that tends to create an awful lot of pressure. But that's. That's what he talked about. Not that Scheffler isn't a great player. He's got, I think, nine top fives in the 15 tournaments he's. He's played in this year, and he is the defending champion of the British Open. But not at this course, Frank. Not at this course. Some other course.
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Yeah, yeah. And you know what? I actually spoke to somebody over there as well, because I wanted to impress you. They say the course is completely burnt, so there's going to be a lot of tight lies. So Matt Fitzpatrick, the Englishman, you'll like this one. When it comes to scrambling out of tight lies, he converts 70% of them for par. So an Englishman has not won the Open since 1992. I believe that it is really now. The only thing with Matt Fitzpatrick, though, he did mention that he bet England to win the World Cup. So he's not on a good road.
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He's Wilbon's guy. Matty Fitz is Wilbourne's guy. We're not rooting for him. Wilbourne can root for him. We're rooting another way on this. We're going another way. ESPN recently came out with its ranking list of the top 10 NFL quarterbacks, based on a survey of NFL coaches, executives and scouts and some additional help from ESPN research. Here's the top 10. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Matthew Stafford, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Dak Prescott, Justin Herbert, Drake May, Jared Goff and Caleb Williams. Frank, any problems with this top 10 list?
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I'm going to give you two quick ones. Number one, Sam Darnold just won the Super Bowl. He beat Drake May, and he had a much tougher road to the Super Bowl. I'm putting Sam Darnold ahead of Drake. Maybe that's one. And we all love Josh Allen. I think he's a great player. He's the only player in NFL history, at least 200, throwing touchdowns, 50 rushing touchdowns. Unbelievable accomplishments. He's never been to the super bowl, much less won the Super Bowl. And as long as Patrick Mahomes is in the NFL.
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That's right.
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He's new. Maruno. Because, Tony, if you went into a game and you said, there's one quarterback out there that I need to win a game, and they're great players, a lot of them. You're picking the guy in the Chiefs. I don't even think it's debatable.
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We're going to agree down the line on this. And Josh Allen's a terrific player, but as you say, he's had a lot of opportunities to get to the super bowl, and Patrick Mahomes has won three of these things. Now, maybe they thought, oh, he's coming out of an injury, and so we're going to downgrade him a little bit. But I would have thought you base this on what has actually happened already. And Patrick Mahomes is The best football player on the planet. I was a little surprised that Jalen Hurts was not on the list. I was a little surprised Dak Prescott was all the way up at number six because most conversations we have about Dak Prescott end with how come he gets so much money. I was surprised Justin Herbert was at 7 because he's been terrible in the playoffs. I believe he's zeroed three in the playoffs with two touchdowns and four interceptions. That's what we call Lamar Jackson territory. And I thought he was rated a little bit too highly. I was a little bit surprised that neither. Baker Mayfield, who else am I thinking of? The quarterback on the Packers, Jordan Love. I thought maybe they might make the top 10. I know what you're saying about Darnold. I'm not certain about that. But, you know, it's not that I disagree with people in the top 10. It's just that I might have bumped them back a little bit. And Wilbon crazy happy because Caleb Williams is in that list. Caleb Williams and Drake may have been in the league for an hour and a half. I think it's, I just think it's a little early on them. I do.
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And also the one thing too, about Josh Allen, I'm thinking about the last time he played a football game. He had some brutal turnovers against Denver. Again, I love the guy. And they move into a new building, maybe they'll finally make it to a Super Bowl. But how about forget about winning it?
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I'd like that.
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Get to one first. Right?
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No, I agree. I mean, I just think he needs to do that before you rate him number one overall over people who have won in Mahomes case, multiple Super Bowls. Let's take a break.
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Exactly.
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Coming up, the scope of the NBA's investigation into Kawhi Leonard reportedly widened.
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And what's the word for Brian Kelly's sudden enthusiasm for Notre Dame?
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So we had soccer in the show.
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It's time to get it on with Lexicon. What's first?
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The new wrinkles in the Kawhi investigation sound blank.
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Frank, you take this one.
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All right, so Tony, you know that the NBA's hired a law firm to investigate whether the Clippers circumvented the salary cap when they signed Kawhi Leonard back in 2019. Now, the athletic has reported over the last couple of days that they're looking into whether that law firm has looked into whether the Clippers in properly covered expenses for Kauai and they were not reimbursed. Essentially, my word is ominous because the longer this goes on, it seems like they're going to keep finding something. Cuz as we all know, our good friend Pablo Torre broke the story in September and the investigation is still happening. And in the meantime, there's a trade that is in limbo with Kauai actually going back to Toronto, as fate would have it. So the longer this goes on and it seems like they're going to find something, does that mean Kawhi's contract will be voided? Does that mean he'll be suspended? There's going to be punishment for the Clippers and the commissioner? Last night Adam Silver said he hopes that this is over by the end of the summer, so it could still go on for four to six weeks.
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So your word is ominous and my word is anesthetizing. This thing goes on and on and on, and I am numb to it by this point. I always believed that something was done between Kawhi and the Clippers that was probably not right. And I've also always believed that at some point all of it would be swept under the rug because it never reached the threshold where it affected games. So now, as you say, Adam Silver is saying, let's get this done before the start of the new season and Kawhi was traded out of the country, traded to Toronto, out of the country. This thing is on hold. I believe that the league is thrilled that Kauai is out of the country, and I believe the league will be happy to assess a lot of big fines To a lot of people. But you give me a call if Kawhi is actually suspended for six months to a season, you give me a call on that one. What's next?
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Brian Kelly's enthusiasm for Notre Dame is blank.
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I'll take this one. And my word is self serving. Brian Kelly is now going around saying how much he loves Notre Dame and how much he loves Marcus Freeman and how he did great work at Notre Dame in terms of the infrastructure there. And he's apparently going on some sort of a tour to the colleges he coached and he's meeting with people there and coaches that he hired. And this to me sounds like rehabilitation because I understand that Brian Kelly at this point needs to make good on why he left Notre Dame for lsu because he left the impression, whether it was intentional or not, he left the impression that he was going to LSU to win a champions national championship because he could not win a national championship at Notre Dame. And they didn't win a national championship anywhere. And then LSU canned him either because of or in spite of the Southern accent that he invented. So my feeling about this is that Brian Kelly is. Is going to have a second act. And this is the Runway to that second act.
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Yeah, yeah. So my word's gonna be revisionism. And I think you're 100% right. And, you know, he now claims I never came out and said I couldn't win a national championship at Notre Dame. All I said was that if I leave, I'm gonna go to a school where I can win a national championship. So it's all about semantics at this point. We know why he left. It was 10 years, $95 million that he was getting. He felt like it had run its course at Notre Dame. That's why he wanted to be part of the LSU family, as he said. But, and you're right, family. He wants to make. He wants to make good with Notre Dame because he says, remember what it was like when I got there? I left it in much better position. So for me, it's a little bit revisionist history. He wants to make good with the folks at Notre Dame. I get it. He's got his money, got his 10 years, 95 million. Obviously that was a buyout at the end, but he made out all right.
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Yeah. And the self justification is he ripped the coach before him and said, you needed me. Look what I did. That's the final word.
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You're right.
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Let's take one last break. But still to come, the Sixers put
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the press on LeBron James and should The Knicks win. Best team at tonight's ESPYs. Tony will be watching.
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Yeah, I've carved out a lot of time for the ESPYs tonight. Me, I got that. I'm good on that first play of England.
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Foreign.
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People. Happy 34th birthday, Tobias Harris Harris has been in the NBA since 2011 and has played for five different teams. He just left Detroit to join San Antonio, which will be his sixth team. Harris came into the NBA with Milwaukee after being drafted 19th overall by Charlotte and traded to the Bucs. Harris played one and a half seasons with the Bucks. Bucks then was traded to Orlando. From there he went to Detroit, then the Clippers, the 76ers, then back to Detroit. In his career, Harris has averaged 15.9 points, 6.1 rebounds, shooting almost 48% from the field, almost 37% from three. Harris best season was split between the Clippers and Sixers in 2018-19 when he scored 20 points a game and grabbed nearly eight rebounds.
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Great guy, good player. And Tony. His career earnings? $333 million. Pretty good for a good player, not a great player.
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Good player for a journeyman. For a journeyman, yes. Happy anniversary. Cal Ripken Jr. On this day 30 years ago, Ripken moved from shortstop to third base for the Baltimore Orioles, ending his consecutive streak of Games at short at 2,216. This was just a position switch. Ripken's consecutive game streak remained intact and finally ended at 2,632. All told, Ripken played 2,302 games at shortstop and 674 at third. By the end of his career, Ripken had played 3,001 games in the major leagues. The current active players with the most games played are Andrew McCutcheon, who just signed a minor league deal with the Braves at 2001 and Freddie Freeman with 2,273 games.
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Yeah, and remember, five years later it was Alex Rodriguez and Joe Torre that told Cal Ripken to move from third to shortstop for the All Star Game in Seattle. And Ripken also had a home run in that game. Not bad.
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Happy trails to the Red Wings GM role for Stevie Yzerman. The team today announced that Yzerman will stay with the team as a season senior advisor to the owner while it searches for a new GM. Yzerman was hired to the spot in 2019 and the so called Iser plan has not produced a single playoff berth. It's been so dispiriting in Detroit that captain Dylan Larkin, who grew up a Red Wings fan, has requested a trade out of town amid reported tensions with the front office. Yzerman played all 22 years of his career with the Red Wings, scoring 690, winning three Stanley Cups, getting his jersey retired and making the hall of Fame.
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That's always the risk of hiring a legendary player into a front office position because if things don't go well, it's not going to end well. And it's not ending well for Steve Azerman.
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It is not. Let's go to the big finish. Tyrese Maxey, Joel Embiid and Jaylen Brown have all been in communication with LeBron about joining the Sixers. Your thoughts?
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I don't think it makes any difference. You don't think that LeBron James already knows where he's going before those phone calls take place? I'm not buying it. The Wizards, they shut down AJ DeBonsa for the remainder of summer league. Do you like what you saw?
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He's ready for the regular season. No point in staying in summer league. The brewers have traded with the Astros for starter Lance McCullers Jr. Is that significant?
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He's still trying to work his way off the IL rotator cuff impingement. We'll see how that works out. The Detroit Free Press reports that Michigan is discussing a buyout with AD Ward. Manuel, your reaction.
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What's taking so long? This has been in the news for months in Michigan, one in football, one in basketball and both coaches are gone now. Last one. The ESPYs are tonight. I know you're watching. Who should win best team?
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The Knicks are going to win. Indiana Hoosier football. How about a ride in ballot? How about Argentina soccer for that performance?
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Today I would have said. Honestly, I would have said the Indiana Hoosiers, they never had winning seasons. We're out of time. Trying to do better the next time. I'm Tony Kornheiser.
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And I'm Frank Isola. Thanks for watching. And now, here's SportsCenter PTI.
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Podcast: PTI
Date: July 15, 2026
Hosts: Tony Kornheiser, Frank Isola (in for Michael Wilbon)
Main Theme: Argentina’s stunning victory over England in the World Cup semi-final and reactions to key sports stories including the MLB All-Star Game, British Open preview, NFL QB rankings, and NBA/college football headlines.
This episode centers around Argentina's dramatic and unexpected come-from-behind victory against England in the World Cup Semi Final, setting up a final against Spain. Tony and Frank break down the match's turning points, its historical context, and implications for England and Argentina with lively analysis. The show then moves across major sports topics, providing sharp commentary on baseball’s All-Star Game, a British Open golf preview, NFL quarterback rankings, and compelling ongoing stories from the NBA and college football.
Tone: Fast-paced, conversational, sharply opinionated, with signature PTI quips and insights.
[01:06–04:11]
England’s Collapse:
Frank describes England’s loss as a collapse, comparing it to infamous moments in prior World Cups (’86 “hand of God,” ’98 Beckham red card).
Coaching Decisions:
Argentina’s Resilience:
Key Players/Plays:
Messi’s Legacy:
[04:11–07:20]
AL Dominance in Pitching:
Game as a Symbol of Modern Baseball:
Notable Performances:
[07:20–09:55]
Who’s the Favorite?
Course Conditions:
Other Contenders:
[09:55–12:50]
Frank’s Issues:
Tony’s Critique:
[14:36–16:39]
[16:39–18:36]
On Argentina’s late magic:
“Apparently this is what Argentina does better than any country in the world. They score late. This was their 10th and 11th goals after the 75-minute mark.” – Tony [02:50]
On England’s strategy:
“They just decided to park the bus...They started subbing out offensive players for defensive players and let Argentina just keep chipping away.” – Frank [01:31]
Messi’s impact:
“Messi, now at 39 years old, gets to go for his second straight World Cup. And if they win that, it's going to be hard to make an argument that he is not the goat.” – Tony [04:11]
Baseball All-Star Game snapshot:
“27 of the 54 outs were strikeouts. That’s unbelievable.” – Tony [06:45]
NFL QBs:
“As long as Patrick Mahomes is in the NFL, he’s new Marino,” – Frank [10:58]
“Patrick Mahomes is the best football player on the planet.” – Tony [11:14]
On the Kawhi investigation:
“This thing goes on and on and on, and I am numb to it by this point.” – Tony [15:43]
On Brian Kelly:
“He’s got his money, got his 10 years, 95 million. Obviously, that was a buyout at the end, but he made out all right.” – Frank [18:36]
Miscellaneous:
Rapid Takes:
Who should win Best Team at ESPYs?
In Summary:
This PTI episode captures a signature brisk, witty analysis of the sports world’s breaking stories, underpinned by the monumental Argentina win and the recurring unpredictability of sports—plus no shortage of fun asides, pointed jabs, and classic Kornheiser/Isola banter.