BLOCKBUSTER INCOMING: Celtics & Heat leading Giannis trade race

Summary

PTI: “BLOCKBUSTER INCOMING: Celtics & Heat leading Giannis trade race”

Date: June 22, 2026
Hosts: Tony Kornheiser & Michael Wilbon

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Episode Overview

This episode of PTI is packed with reactions to the day’s premier sports stories, featuring deep analysis and lively banter from Tony and Mike. The headlines include Lionel Messi making World Cup history, Wyndham Clark’s polarizing U.S. Open win, Dusty May’s shocking move from NCAA champion coach to NBA, Serena Williams staging a remarkable comeback at Wimbledon, and a spotlight on the looming Giannis Antetokounmpo trade—the episode’s title topic, revisited in the “Big Finish.” Incisive commentary, personal anecdotes, and big-picture takes characterize the hosts’ discussions.

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Main Discussion Points

1. Lionel Messi’s Record-Shattering World Cup (00:56–04:44)

• Messi became the leading goal scorer in World Cup history (17 goals), delivering a brace against Austria following a hat trick in Argentina’s opener.
• Wilbon contextualizes Messi's greatness:
  • Compared his performances to Michael Jordan in 1998, Ali in 1974, and Jim Brown (“Is this what it would be like describing game after game of Michael Jordan in 1998 in the playoffs?...maybe this is what it's like watching Messi.” – Wilbon, 01:51)
  • Admits to originally being a Ronaldo guy and hesitant to join the Messi bandwagon (02:39).
• Tony highlights Messi’s complete embrace by American fans, partly due to his MLS presence (“He is the most popular, most accomplished soccer player in this country…Messi is it.” – Kornheiser, 02:44).
• Both note the historic possibility of Messi repeating as World Cup champion, chasing Pele's records (03:40).
• Wilbon stresses Messi’s goals aren’t cheap—none were penalties, and his agility and craftiness defy his age (04:11–04:21).
• They reflect on Messi’s second act—something legends like Beckenbauer or Cruyff never achieved (04:27).

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2. Wyndham Clark’s U.S. Open Win and His Villain Status (04:44–08:21)

• Clark headlines for winning his second U.S. Open at Shinnecock Hills, going wire-to-wire despite fan hostility (04:47–05:03).
• Tony commends Clark’s resilience under harsh crowd treatment (“That was brutal out there…People were booing him, they were rooting for his shots to go into the bunker.” – Kornheiser, 05:18).
• Wilbon pivots to Clark’s unpopularity, suggesting it isn’t just about isolated incidents, but a broader “reaction” to him that “has gone from Scottsdale, Arizona to the tip of the Atlantic Ocean where people say, I don't like this guy.” (07:01)
• They debate whether Clark is a true “villain” or simply misunderstood and discuss how he might repair his image (08:01–08:21).

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3. Dusty May Leaves Michigan for Dallas Mavericks (08:23–12:05)

• May becomes first college head coach in decades to take NBA job immediately after winning a title.
• Wilbon: Move makes sense for both, especially because of Mavericks’ youth movement around Cooper Flagg and possible Kyrie Irving trade (“You think Dusty May is a developer and will have the patience…there's no timeline for Dallas now.” – Wilbon, 09:30–09:49).
• Tony is stunned by the move, admiring May’s remarkable college run but highlighting that NCAA-to-NBA rarely works (“Very few people going from college to the pros…Most people end up like John Calipari or John Beilein.” – Kornheiser, 11:26)
• Wilbon notes NIL and new recruiting realities are pushing top college coaches out: “They got to sit at living room tables and not just talk about a kid…Haggling with parents over how much you're going to pay their child to come to your school. This is real.” (11:14)

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4. Serena Williams Returns to Wimbledon Singles (14:03–15:58)

• Wilbon is excited but realistic (“Damn right I am…She's back at 44 years old…of course you want to see Serena Williams at Wimbledon.” – Wilbon, 14:03)
• Tony tempers expectations due to her age and unseeded status, recalling Navratilova’s late-career comeback as precedent (15:07).
• Both agree: Unlikely she contends for the title, but just seeing her compete again is special.
• Wilbon analogizes to Tiger Woods: “Would you like to see Tiger woods again? You're damn right I would.” (15:46)

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5. MLB Weekend Highlights: Schwarber, Harper, Devers (16:13–18:22)

• Big stories:
  • Kyle Schwarber’s home run pace (on pace for 61) — Wilbon pulls for him despite hating the Phillies (17:34–17:59).
  • Bryce Harper nearly cycles twice.
  • Rafael Devers refuses a pinch runner in a bold, contentious moment (“Dev pushes him away. Get out of here.” — Kornheiser, 17:01)
• Tony and Mike discuss what these vignettes say about team dynamics, managerial courage, and how players relate to their cities.

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6. “Happy Time” – Retrospective Segments (19:45–22:55)

Noteworthy Moments:

• Dustin Johnson’s 42nd birthday and the LIV impact (19:45).
• The legendary 2018 NBA Draft Class and long-range impact (20:39): Doncic, Young, Gilgeous-Alexander, Brunson, and misses on Ayton/Bagley.
• Brady Tkachuk traded to Panthers—joining brother Matthew, both now on a title run (21:30).
• Joe Adell’s home run, robbed by Colby Thomas, and the quirks of minor league ballparks (22:08).

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7. The “Big Finish”—Giannis Trade Watch, NBA, and More (23:01–24:05)

(Main theme topic arrives here!)

• Tony: “Giannis will reportedly be traded before tomorrow’s NBA Draft. Do you believe that?” (23:01)
• Wilbon: “I do.”
• Michael Wilbon: “Jaylen Brown and the Heat and the Celtics are importantly the finalists.” (23:06)
• Discussion of Jaylen Brown’s willingness to go, conflicting reporting, and how this will swing the NBA landscape.
• Trae Young’s new deal with the Wizards, Yankees ace Cam Schlitler’s big game, and College World Series rubber match, all get quick, punchy exchanges.
• **Signature close with their trademark back-and-forth:
  • “We’re out of time. Try to do better the next time. I’m Tony Korn—" (24:05)
  • “I’m Mike Wilbon. Find us on the deuce tomorrow, knuckleheads.”**

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Messi’s transformation to American icon:
  “He is the most popular, most accomplished soccer player in this country…Because of the MLS, because of the pink jerseys. There’s not a guy on the United States team who anybody knows comparatively to Messi.” — Tony Kornheiser, 02:44
• On Messi as GOAT:
  “He is building brick by brick the case to be the [GOAT] against Pele. If he wins a second straight World Cup, he gets closer.” — Tony Kornheiser, 03:39
• On Clark’s unpopularity:
  “This is now a national reaction…people say, I don't like this guy. This wasn't about Scottie Scheffler. This was about him.” — Mike Wilbon, 07:01
• On new realities of college basketball coaching:
  “This is real…Haggling with parents over how much you're going to pay their child to come to your school.” — Mike Wilbon, 11:14
• On Serena’s comeback:
  “Of course you want to see Serena Williams at Wimbledon…just want to see Serena Williams play again.” — Mike Wilbon, 14:03 & 15:39
• On Giannis trade suspense:
  “Giannis will reportedly be traded before tomorrow. NBA draft. Do you believe that?” — Tony Kornheiser, 23:01
  “I do.” — Mike Wilbon
• On Jaylen Brown rumors:
  “We don't know whether he wants to go to Milwaukee or not. Seems to be conflicting reporting.” — Michael Wilbon, 23:11

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Key Timestamps

| Segment/Topic | Timestamp | |------------------------|-------------| | Messi’s World Cup | 00:56–04:44 | | Wyndham Clark, Golf | 04:44–08:21 | | Dusty May to Mavericks | 08:23–12:05 | | Serena’s Wimbledon | 14:03–15:58 | | MLB Weekend Recap | 16:13–18:22 | | “Happy Time” | 19:45–22:55 | | Giannis Trade/Big Finish| 23:01–24:05 |

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Tone & Style Notes

• The banter is quick, irreverent, often laced with personal sports history and good-natured ribbing, yet grounded in sharp, often critical, sports analysis.
• Tony often plays the role of respectful skeptic, while Mike offers passionate, sometimes emotional, sports fan perspective.

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Summary Takeaway

This PTI episode is quintessential Kornheiser and Wilbon: sports history in the making (Messi, Serena, Giannis), polarizing personalities (Wyndham Clark), seismic basketball moves (Dusty May’s NBA jump), and simmering MLB subplots—all filtered through their decades-long on-air chemistry. The hosts’ lively back-and-forth brings both gravitas and humor, making the episode equally engaging for casual fans and sports diehards. The conclusion circles back to the anticipated NBA blockbuster as Giannis’s trade decision looms, with both Boston and Miami in the race—setting up the next leap in the NBA’s ongoing drama.

Transcript

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[Mike Wilbon]

Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbon. We were both off Friday and Frank told everybody we were on a kite sailing adventure.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm Tony Kornheiser. That's not true. We were spear fishing. Yeah.

[Mike Wilbon]

Was that what we were?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Have you ever. Have you ever wanted to do spearfishing? No. Not at all?

[Michael Wilbon]

No. Fishing?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Mike Wilbon]

No.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No fishing at all?

[Mike Wilbon]

No fly fishing?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Nothing?

[Mike Wilbon]

No. You don't want to stand in the

[Tony Kornheiser]

waders and cast off and, and get a.

[Mike Wilbon]

If I'm on the water, I want it to be the biggest yacht imaginable.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Is that right? So you don't want to actually be near the water, the actual water, really. Welcome to pti, boys and girls. In today's episode, Windham Clark wins his second U.S. open. Dusty may is leaving Michigan for the Mavericks. And Serena Williams returns to singles at Wimbledon. But we begin today with Lionel Messi once again stealing the spotlight at the World Cup. One day after Cape Verde improbably tied Uruguay and Lamine Yamal Wilbon's boy scored his first World cup goal for Spain. Messi delivered once again for Argentina. Messi buried a one timer against Austria to become the leading goal scorer in all of World cup history with 17. And then for good measure added a second goal late in Argentina's 2 nothing win. This comes just days after Messi delivered a hat trick in Argentina's opener. Wilbon, what are we watching here?

[Michael Wilbon]

You know, Tony, I mean, I was thinking about this, you know, today and it's like, is this. What if we went back in time 28 years? Is this what it would be like describing game after game of Michael Jordan in 1998 in the playoffs? Or because it wouldn't be the Olympics, they weren't as big quite as the NBA playoffs, NBA finals, which Jordan won at that age and stage, and he was the goat easily. Then maybe this is what it's like watching Messi. Now look, I'm new to this.

[Mike Wilbon]

I know you resisted.

[Michael Wilbon]

But I also know you admire brilliance at this level, no matter the sport.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Sure.

[Michael Wilbon]

And so is this like watching Ali in 74? Is this.

[Mike Wilbon]

I mean, Jim Brown who you got to see early in Your life.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Is this a big conversion for you? Cause you were not a Messi guy.

[Michael Wilbon]

I'm not still messy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You were a Ronaldo guy. And you always said, until Messi wins a World cup, and then he finally won a World Cup. I just want to say this. This is a big deal right here on this set and in this country, because of what Messi now means in this country. He is the most popular, most accomplished soccer player in this country. Because of the mls, because of the pink jerseys. There's not a guy on the United States team who anybody knows comparatively to Messi. Right? I mean, Messi is it. And now he's got five goals in two games.

[Mike Wilbon]

They got five. He's got five.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And he's 39.

[Michael Wilbon]

He's bigger than the U.S. and where he's playing in Miami, to me, is bigger than that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, it is.

[Michael Wilbon]

He's the dude.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That dude. But I'm suggesting to you that Americans who like soccer even a little root for him all the time, because we now consider him part of us.

[Michael Wilbon]

He plays part of us in this.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, but. Yes, but I don't even.

[Michael Wilbon]

Like.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't think most people realistically think we can win, but Argentina could win.

[Michael Wilbon]

They've won.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Right? So they could win again. And right now, he not only has the most World cup goals ever, he's been on the most winning World cup teams ever. Like, he is building brick by brick the case to be the goat against Pele. If he wins a second straight World cup, he gets closer.

[Mike Wilbon]

Pele won three and went to four.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I understand, but the last person to repeat was Pele. That's the ghost that Messi is chasing.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah, right.

[Michael Wilbon]

Mbappe could catch him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He could. You're an Mbappe guy. I know.

[Mike Wilbon]

By the way.

[Michael Wilbon]

By the way, these goals that Messi's scoring is not. There's not even a penalty goal.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Not. He is scoring.

[Mike Wilbon]

He is quicker.

[Michael Wilbon]

He missed the penalty.

[Mike Wilbon]

He's quicker to the ball. He's craftier when he gets there, everyone.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Than when he came to wash.

[Mike Wilbon]

He was washed.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He was washed up.

[Mike Wilbon]

You know why? Cuz everybody else was done. They never had a second bite at the apple. Not Pa, not Beckenbauer, not Cruy. They never got back.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's right.

[Michael Wilbon]

He's. He's back, man.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He never really went away.

[Michael Wilbon]

No, apparently not. The pink jersey, though. That's your thing. I'm not into that.

[Mike Wilbon]

Let's move to Wyndham Clark winning the

[Michael Wilbon]

United States Open yesterday at Shinnecock Hills despite shooting three over par and Despite

[Mike Wilbon]

a hostile crowd rooting noticeably against Clark and for his playing partner, Scottie Scheffler,

[Michael Wilbon]

Clark went wire to wire and then

[Mike Wilbon]

never relinquished the lead.

[Michael Wilbon]

This was Clark's second United States Open victory, the previous one coming at LA north in 2023. So Tone, what do you think of how he did it? And do you think this will change the perception many people have of him going forward?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I tipped my hat to Wyndham Clark. That was brutal out there. People were booing him, they were rooting for his shots to go into the bunker. It was so bad that the USGA removed a couple of people at one point. And let's be honest here, this is not the Ryder cup in Bethpage. This is an American trying to win the American National Championship. He converted like 66% of his scramble circumstances, which is fabulous. He made us open pars, which are defined as getting up and down from 20 or 30 yards out. He put it great from 15ft to 25ft, 25ft.

[Michael Wilbon]

Par Savers, one after another after another, all the time.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let me get to the notes here. Okay? Scottie Scheffler was right next to him. Could have beaten him, didn't beat him.

[Michael Wilbon]

No.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Sam Burns, statistically the best putter on tour, could have beaten him. Missed by this much, and that changes everything. But did not beat him. And I mean, I think you have to give him a lot of credit. His driver was lousy for a couple of days and he stayed in the holes time after time.

[Michael Wilbon]

We are both golf wonks. We care about every single thing to the nth degree that happens in a golf tournament. And I'm gonna skip right over that. Cause you covered it brilliantly. I don't care about any of that. I care about people on a golf course in New York booing the hell

[Mike Wilbon]

out of Wyndham Clark. Now let's get to that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah.

[Mike Wilbon]

Cuz Wyndham Clark lives where I live a chunk of my life in the same, in the actual community.

[Michael Wilbon]

And he's not liked.

[Mike Wilbon]

And this is not just because he tore out a locker or slammed a locker.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I think much of it happened at

[Michael Wilbon]

Oakman, some of it. But Tony, I told you before this. There's a reaction to him.

[Mike Wilbon]

And he seems to have facilitated it somehow. I don't know him. I never met him. Never met him, never seen him. But there's this reaction to him which is now a national reaction. It has gone from Scottsdale, Arizona to the tip of the Atlantic Ocean where people say, I don't like this guy. This wasn't about Scottie Scheffler. This was about him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It was harshly about Scottish people like Scotty Scheffler. And on his birthday he was going,

[Mike Wilbon]

anybody else out there, it would have still been the same reaction to, I

[Tony Kornheiser]

think it's about Oakmont. And I was happy to see that. At least this time I heard him say, I'm sorry for that, as opposed to, I regret that. People ought to get used to him. Do you know, in the last three years, only Scotty Scheffler and Rory McIlroy have won more tournaments than Wyndham Clark. Wyndham Clark, we like to say that you can't win a tournament on Thursday. You can only lose it. He won it on Thursday, won 64, Mike. It was the low round of the entire tournament.

[Michael Wilbon]

It's hard to sustain this being the

[Mike Wilbon]

villain if you don't really want to be it or you don't understand why people think you are that Patrick, it's

[Tony Kornheiser]

hard, seems to accept he's the only one kind of villain. I think Wyndham Clark got up there and basically said, give me a break. Next time. All he can hope for, he's never going to be cheered the way Scheffler is. Maybe he'll turn it around. Maybe it goes neutral. Maybe people say it, suppose it matters

[Mike Wilbon]

to him and he says, wait a minute, let me understand this.

[Michael Wilbon]

So I don't.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know what you do? You get out there and you do a friendly interview that everyone sees and you apologize and you try and go in a different direction. Now to Dusty May, reportedly leaving Michigan to take over as head coach of the Dallas Mavericks. May just won the national title with the Wolverines. He is the first college head coach to leave for the NBA immediately after winning the title since my old camp counselor, Larry Brown left Kansas for the spurs in 1988. Wilbon, does this move make sense to you for both May and the Mavs?

[Michael Wilbon]

Well, certainly for the Mavericks, I mean, you got Cooper flagg, who's maybe 19

[Mike Wilbon]

years old by now, who, you know, for 100 years of basketball in America after Naismith, would have been playing for

[Michael Wilbon]

a college coach like Dusty May.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's a great point for Dusty, a 19 year old. Maybe they think they get the best out of it.

[Mike Wilbon]

So I think what you're seeing here

[Michael Wilbon]

is Kyrie Irving will be accommodated. He'll go to a contender, but you move him out.

[Mike Wilbon]

And look, you know, I am completely

[Michael Wilbon]

and totally biased in favor of Masai Ujiri who made this move.

[Mike Wilbon]

And I think we'll See, and I

[Michael Wilbon]

don't know, we didn't talk about this,

[Mike Wilbon]

but I think you'll see you can bring a haul in. You can still get something for Kyrie, a younger player who you think can grow with Cooper Flag. And you think Dusty May is a developer and will have the patience to do that. And there's no timeline for Dallas now. What are they, three, four years away from being a couple of years away. So I think, yes, I think it makes sense.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So I have to be honest here. I have no physical sense of Dusty May. I know that he is a great college coach and his career is a whirlwind. Listen to this. The last four years is 124 and 26. He went to the Final Four with Florida Atlanta. Because school in Vulcan exists, nobody knows where it is. Went to the Final Four.

[Mike Wilbon]

You're a boring guy. You don't know where it is.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I do, but nobody else. Then he goes to Michigan. He follows Juwan Howard in a terrible year, 8 and 24. And he goes in two years 64 and 13, he wins the national championship. This guy is to college basketball what the guy at Indiana, Kurt. Cincinnati is to college football. So I am surprised. This comes out of nowhere to me. And I take a different view of Dallas than you do. Dallas in recent years trades away Luka Doncic, then trades away the guy they get for Luka Doncic, Anthony Davis. They fire their gm, they fire their coach.

[Mike Wilbon]

They let a guy go to New York who's done pretty well, right? And Jalen Brunson.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So what they have now is Cooper Flag and I don't know anything else.

[Michael Wilbon]

It's kids.

[Mike Wilbon]

Who do you want coaching kids.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Why does he take this job? Does he just take the job for money?

[Michael Wilbon]

You also take it because I talk to all the time. A lot of college basketball coaches, Tony, they're confronting something that people have not confronted before. They got to sit at living room tables and not just talk about a kid and let me see his room

[Tony Kornheiser]

and what kind of kid. Money, money, money.

[Mike Wilbon]

Haggling with parents over how much you're going to pay their child to come to your school. This is real.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So he doesn't want that in college,

[Mike Wilbon]

a lot of guys don't want. But he had an out. He had an option.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He said the journey was better than the destination that we achieved. So why is he not going to the transfer portal? But here, who's been great? Very few people going from college to the pros. Most people end up like John Calipari or John Beeline. And not Larry Brown and Brad Stevens and Billy Donovan.

[Mike Wilbon]

Billy Donovan got close.

[Tony Kornheiser]

He did. Yeah.

[Mike Wilbon]

But Tony, it's a new day.

[Michael Wilbon]

And this college basketball does not in

[Mike Wilbon]

any way shape form resemble the college basketball of your mentor, Larry Brown.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's too different. When I heard this today, I went. What? I had no idea. Did you?

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Mike Wilbon]

No, No, I didn't have an idea.

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Michael Wilbon]

Stunning it is.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Coming up, Serena Williams will play singles in Wimbledon. Yes, she will.

[Mike Wilbon]

Raphael Des refuses a pinch runner.

[Michael Wilbon]

Just waves him off.

[Mike Wilbon]

Get out of here, dude.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I was really impressed by the way with. With Wyndham Clark sticking to it.

[Mike Wilbon]

Wyndham Clark was great the whole time.

[Tony Kornheiser]

All over the place. Up and down. He was up and down. But yeah, but no, he was.

[Mike Wilbon]

It's going to be interesting to see the reaction to.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

It's time to find out what the cat dragged in. I'll get the first one.

[Michael Wilbon]

As long as they're good.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Are you excited? I know the answer to this. Are you excited to see Serena play her first singles in four years at Wimbledon?

[Mike Wilbon]

Damn right I am. Yes. I don't know if she's gonna be any good. I. I don't. But Serena has sort of set this up. She's got these brilliant commercials that appeal to tens, if not Hundreds of millions of people about GLP and losing this weight and getting back in this condition

[Michael Wilbon]

that, let's face it, we've seen her

[Mike Wilbon]

dominate the world similarly before. We've seen her for years do that.

[Michael Wilbon]

And now she's back at 44 years old. She played these doubles matches.

[Mike Wilbon]

What did I say to you every

[Michael Wilbon]

day and on your podcast? I said, we're just waiting.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's right.

[Mike Wilbon]

We're waiting for the announcement. And of course you want to see Serena Williams at Wimbledon. You do. I know you do too.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Sure, sure. I mean, look, she's 44 years old. She has prepped for singles by playing doubles, which doesn't tell us anything. Nothing tells us anything because you don't cover the court in the same way. Right. She's unseated, unranked. So she could end up playing the best woman in the world in the first round.

[Mike Wilbon]

And then she's out a 17 year old football. Who can beat you?

[Tony Kornheiser]

There are obvious questions. How much power does she have left? How much speed does she have left? There is historical precedent for this. Martina Navratilova at age 47. 47 in 2004, after being away for 10 years. Not four years. Enters the French Open, loses in the first round. Then she goes to Wimbledon, destroys an opponent in the first round, won and love, and then loses in the second round. That's what I could see with Serena. Here's what I can't see and what I know. You can't see her winning the. The tournament. No, she doesn't win the championship.

[Mike Wilbon]

But I just want to see Serena Williams play again.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes, sure.

[Mike Wilbon]

And just look.

[Michael Wilbon]

If somebody asked me if he was healthy and he's just a matter of

[Mike Wilbon]

losing weight or gaining muscle or something. Would you like to see Tiger woods again? You're damn right I would. Not this version, I'll just say. All right, so Serena's much closer, we presume, to herself than you know.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Who's the only one who wins the championship at this age? Tom Brady. He wins the championship.

[Michael Wilbon]

Was he 44? He was in his 40s, but he. Can he go corner to corner?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Can she still? We gotta see. We're gonna find out, right?

[Mike Wilbon]

Baseball weekend. Biggest baseball story from the weekend.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Schwarbs.

[Mike Wilbon]

Four home runs. Bryce Harper's almost cycling twice. Or Rafael Devers trying to wave off a pinch runner.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'll leave Schwarbs to you. I know he lived in your building.

[Michael Wilbon]

Thank you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm gonna say it's Devers. This is fantastic. The relationship now we wonder about between Devers and the college baseball manager who is managing the Giants because he sent in a guy to run for Devers. Let's understand it's a one run game in the ninth. He sent in a kid named Cox who steals bases. 162 stolen bases in four minor league years. You want to take a shot at how many Devers has stolen in the last 10 major seasons? 33. One in the last two years. The. It's the right move. The kid goes out there, Dev pushes him away. Get out of here. He didn't want to come out.

[Mike Wilbon]

Move is, you know, the manager shouldn't be at the other end of the damn dugout. You want Devers out the man up. Walk your butt to the stairs and stand there like Billy Martin waiting on Reggie Jackson. You are a. I don't want to see this dude looking through the fence at the end of the dugout. That was chicken. You know what?

[Tony Kornheiser]

So now destroy. Who had a fit to get out of Boston. Now we wonder who picks him up at the trade deadline because he's never been an average hitter for batting average and his OPS is down.

[Michael Wilbon]

Can I talk about Schwarbs for a second?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Sure, go ahead. Knock yourself out.

[Michael Wilbon]

Come on now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Lived in your building.

[Michael Wilbon]

3, 4, 5. I'm not going to give the name of the street, but people know Schwaber. Oh, my God, I hate the Phillies. I don't particularly like Bryce Harper, though I acknowledge what a great player he is. It's hard for me to root for Schwaber playing with them, but he could

[Mike Wilbon]

go for 60 plus home runs.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know what pace he's on?

[Mike Wilbon]

73.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No. 61.

[Mike Wilbon]

61.

[Tony Kornheiser]

61.

[Michael Wilbon]

I hope he quickens it.

[Mike Wilbon]

I hope he gets there. And I'm gonna have to root for Schwaber because I love Kyle Schwaber.

[Tony Kornheiser]

You know, your enmity towards Bryce Harper surprises me.

[Mike Wilbon]

He left your team.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I understand.

[Mike Wilbon]

You should have enmity.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, because we won.

[Mike Wilbon]

No, you won without him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We won without. But he did for the cycle and almost went for. You know how rare it is to get a cycle?

[Mike Wilbon]

Did I say it's great. Bryce Harper is.

[Tony Kornheiser]

But you hate him.

[Michael Wilbon]

No, he just.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And you hate everyone in Philadelphia. You hate everybody. That's enough email. Let's take one last break. Still to come, the Panthers add another tkach.

[Michael Wilbon]

A lot of kachuks. Joe.

[Mike Wilbon]

Adele, he gets robbed at the wall. Ha. Turnabout. Ha.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Well, he took reback.

[Michael Wilbon]

Didn't love Schwerber.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, sure was great. If he had stayed in Washington, Washington would have kept that whole team. Save money on your next oil change with O'Reilly Auto Parts. Get a $15 O'Reilly gift card after rebate when you buy 5 quarts of Mobil 1 full synthetic motor oil for just 35.95. Stop by your local O'Reilly Auto Parts.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Happy time people. Happy 42nd birthday. Dustin Johnson DJ was the first big American golfer to sign with a Saudi live tour in 2022. Phil Mickelson was a bigger name, but he was in his 50s when he signed and no longer a threat to win. D.J. had won the Tour, 2016 US Open and 2020 Masters and was a top 10 player. He has not won anything consequential since going to live. He finished T32 at plus 6 at the Open in Shinnecock yesterday, but at least he made the cut. The biggest name LIV players Jon Rahm, Bryson Dechambeau and Cam Smith did not. Neither did Brooks Koepka, who signed with LIV but left last year. DeChambeau is the only current LIV player to win a major while on LIV the 2024 US Open at Pinehurst.

[Michael Wilbon]

DJ won a little something that's significant to me between 125 and $150 million. Reportedly I'm gonna take that payday and win a little less.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Happy Anniversary 2018 NBA Draft Class around this day eight years ago, a crazy draft night saw the Atlanta Hawks and Dallas Mavericks draft Luka Doncic and Trae Young with the third and fourth fifth overall picks, then trade them for each other. Later. At number 11, the Hornets drafted, then dealt to the Clippers Shay Gilgeous Alexander, who has become an MVP and a champion at Oklahoma City. Still later, at number 33, Dallas drafted Jalen Brunson, now a champion in New York. The first two picks in this draft, DeAndre Ayton to Phoenix and Marvin Bagley to Sacramento, might not even be drafted in the top eight to ten. Now on a redo not over Jaren Jackson Jr. Mikhail Bridges or Michael Porter Jr. Nope.

[Michael Wilbon]

We agree completely. Wizard. Mr. Wizard. Who you drafting Tomorrow night? It's tomorrow night.

[Mike Wilbon]

Right about now.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm gonna take the kid from byu.

[Michael Wilbon]

You are gonna take the bands.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Wouldn't you? I would. So would I.

[Michael Wilbon]

Just asking.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Happy trails to Ottawa for Brady Tachuk. The Senators sent their captain to the Panthers. While he would join his brother Matthew, Ottawa got three number ones and a number two in return. And while the Senators were look to the future again, the Panthers are clearly gearing up to make a run for their third Stanley cup in four years. After missing the playoffs this season, Brady and Matthew Tkachuk won a gold medal together in Milan and host a podcast together. And today their dad, Keith Tkachuk got named to the Hockey hall of Fame. Good day for the Tkachuks.

[Michael Wilbon]

How about Patrice Bergeron, Carey Price Pek arena and Brian Burke, all also named to the hall of Fame.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Doesn't get bigger.

[Michael Wilbon]

Congratulations.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Doesn't get bigger. And a bonus. Happy trails to a home run for Joe Adell. The Angels outfielder sent one deep to right field in Sacramento on Sunday. A's right fielder Colby Thomas leaped and snagged it before getting an involuntary spinal adjustment. The A's play in a Triple A ballpark. That fence is so low. And what a weird season for Joe Odell. Back in April, he brought back three home runs in the same game. A record that will never be broken. And then three weeks ago, he took a fly ball off his beam that went over the fence for a four base error. And now this.

[Michael Wilbon]

You hate this ballpark. I love it. It's a launching pad.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yes. It's 80 home runs a night.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Mike Wilbon]

You love Home Run Derby. That phony junk.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I do love that. Because that's an exhibition.

[Michael Wilbon]

This is better.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No, this ruins the symmetry of the game. It ruins the record. Stop it. Let's go to the big finish.

[Michael Wilbon]

Oh, fun.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let's do it. Giannis will reportedly be traded before tomorrow. NBA draft. Do you believe that?

[Mike Wilbon]

I do.

[Michael Wilbon]

Jaylen Brown and the Heat and the Celtics are importantly the finalists.

[Mike Wilbon]

But Jaylen Brown, we don't know whether

[Michael Wilbon]

he wants to go to Milwaukee or not. Seems to be conflicting reporting.

[Mike Wilbon]

Trae Young is going to sign a four year, $212 million deal with your Wizards. Are you excited?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I won't use the word excited, but I will say he is a statistic machine. He piles up numbers. The Hawks are trading two second rounders to the Thunder for Aaron Wiggins as well. That makes sense.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yeah, it says OKC like $60 million plush in luxury tax. You can't do that.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yankees ace Cam Schlitler had a career high 13ks and Fridays went over the Reds.

[Michael Wilbon]

Are you impressed with that?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I am impressed with him. And I wonder how he feels about the fact that he grew up a Red Sox fan. It's going to be hard now he's playing for the Nike last one, UNC and Oklahoma in the rubber match for the men's College World Series night. He got.

[Michael Wilbon]

I just like the fact that Oklahoma's unseated. Carolina's like a five seed unseated. You come in.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Are you going to root for Oklahoma over Chapel Hill?

[Mike Wilbon]

You're not going to do that, are you? You're not going to do that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We're out of time. Try to do better the next time. I'm Tony Korn.

[Mike Wilbon]

I'm Mike Wilbon. Find us on the deuce tomorrow, knuckleheads.

[Michael Wilbon]

Yvette Escudero.

[Mike Wilbon]

Watching the big, big, big tennis tournaments

[Michael Wilbon]

will never again be as fun without you.

[Tony Kornheiser]

A lovely woman.

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