Blue Jays Advance to the World Series!

Summary

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PTI Podcast Summary

Episode: Blue Jays Advance to the World Series!

Date: October 21, 2025

Hosts: Tony Kornheiser & Michael Wilbon
Special Guest: Jeff Saturday

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Episode Overview

Tony Kornheiser and Michael Wilbon break down the Toronto Blue Jays' thrilling advance to the World Series, discuss dramatic NFL and NBA developments, and chat with ESPN analyst Jeff Saturday about hot topics around football player management, team culture, and memorable moments from the sports week.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Toronto Blue Jays Advance to World Series

• Main Theme: The Blue Jays clinch a World Series berth with a critical three-run homer by George Springer against the Seattle Mariners.
• Springer’s performance is lauded; his home run is compared to classic postseason moments.
• The conversation reflects both a sense of history and heartbreak for Seattle fans.

Notable Quotes:

• Wilbon: “Springer, who's already got a World Series MVP to his credit, he comes along and hits that bomb and it's like, oh my God, they just decimated Seattle... it felt like the next best thing if you're Toronto.” [01:35]
• Kornheiser: “George Springer, who now is tied for third all time in postseason home runs ... There's no better way to come back than what he did by hitting his home run.” [03:00]

Segment Timestamps:

• [01:02] Introduction of Blue Jays-Mariner game and Springer’s clutch HR
• [01:35] Wilbon’s emotional reaction and Seattle-Toronto dynamic
• [02:50] Kornheiser’s breakdown of series momentum, Seattle’s lost opportunity, postscript on bullpen strategy

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2. NFL: Lions & Seahawks Both Win

• Both teams reach 5-2, but Tony and Mike sharply debate who's more impressive.
• Tony praises the Lions for their “best point differential in the NFC” and quality wins.
• Wilbon pushes back, emphasizing Detroit’s failings against elite opponents and hypes Seattle's resilience.

Notable Quotes:

• Kornheiser: “They've got the best point differential in the NFC. ... They just smothered a good team.” [05:06]
• Wilbon: “I don't give a damn what they did the next week. What did they do when they had to play the big boys at Green Bay and Kansas City? They got their butts handed to them.” [06:16]

Segment Timestamps:

• [04:15] Transition from baseball to Monday Night Football
• [05:06] Tony's Lions defense
• [06:16] Wilbon critiques Detroit and pumps up Seattle, citing personnel decisions

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3. NBA Season Tip-Off: Players and Teams to Watch

• High anticipation for Victor Wembanyama’s rookie year.
• Wilbon’s “most intriguing” teams: Orlando, Detroit, San Antonio, with a focus on young stars.
• Tony expresses malaise about the NBA due to the Wizards’ tanking.

Notable Quotes:

• Wilbon: “It's Victor Wembanyama. ... Anybody who writes any name down on the card except Wemby is just being silly.” [07:30]
• Kornheiser: “The alleged professional basketball team, the Wizards, is embarking on yet a third straight year of trying to lose every single game. And they've gotten good at it.” [09:13]

Segment Timestamps:

• [07:12] Introduction of NBA's Opening Night
• [07:30] Wilbon on Wembanyama and “teams to watch”
• [08:38] Kornheiser asks if OKC can repeat
• [08:51] Wilbon’s “no” on OKC repeating, lists their assets but says, “the league’s too hard.”

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4. NFL Roundtable with Jeff Saturday (Five Good Minutes)

• Can teams still build around a top running back?
  • Saturday points to Jonathan Taylor’s MVP-caliber season; emphasizes classic football, strong O-line play, and run-first philosophy.
• Handling referees & discipline:
  • Saturday leans on building ref relationships before things heat up; a suspension for language or conduct is “pretty bad.”
• Locker room distractions & culture (Ravens story):
  • Dismisses locker room game removals as motivational or causal, stresses professionalism.
• Steelers/Jets celebration mishap:
  • Saturday sides with Aaron Rodgers after a teammate’s overzealous celebration: “He’s too old for that big human being to be laying his body on it.”

Notable Quotes:

• Jeff Saturday: “Jonathan Taylor is having an MVP season even though he doesn't get mentioned with all the quarterbacks.” [13:33]
• Saturday on ref suspension: “To get suspended in the NFL ... it has to be pretty bad because there’s been some really, some really nasty things said to some referees on the sideline.” [14:03]
• Saturday on Rodger’s mishap: “We get older. We’re off balance, man. ... Take it easy on these old bodies.” [16:59]

Segment Timestamps:

• [12:06] Introduction of Jeff Saturday
• [12:31] Running backs' value & Taylor's case
• [13:33] Classic football philosophy
• [14:03] Ref discipline and relationships
• [15:12] Locker room distractions (Ravens remove games)
• [16:42] Celebration mishap with Rodgers

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5. Rapid Fire & Happy Time (Segment Highlights)

• Celebrations for hockey coach Mike Keenan and classic Carlton Fisk 1975 World Series home run.
• Discussion of Albert Pujols not landing Angels manager spot (instead hired is Kurt Suzuki) and speculates on Pujols’ next move.
• Rapid takes on March Madness expanding, Cowboys-Raiders possible trade, Michael Jordan interview on NBC.

Notable Quotes:

• Kornheiser on Pujols: “Yeah, they're ready to win. The right place to go.” [23:46]
• Wilbon on March Madness expansion: “No more teams. Just stop. Just play the tournament.” [23:59]

Segment Timestamps:

• [20:47] “Happy Time People”: Celebrations for Mike Keenan, Carlton Fisk, Albert Pujols’ managerial prospects
• [23:50] “Big Finish”: Quick hits on March Madness, Cowboys trade rumors, Michael Jordan on NBC

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Memorable and Humorous Exchanges

• Tony’s “1934 prom” shtick [00:40]: “My senior prom, May of 1934. And that was my time. … I went with Judy Garland.”
• Wilbon calling out the Detroit hype [06:16]: “Stop slurping them … they got in Jigba and Sam Darnold. Like you would have taken Sam Darnold. No, you wouldn’t have.”
• Tony on Washington Wizards [09:13]: “The alleged professional basketball team … trying to lose every single game. And they've gotten good at it.”
• Jeff Saturday on locker room diversions [15:42]: “If it's like punitive, right, like, we're going to punish you. If you play well, we'll put this stuff back, okay? But if it's like, no, we're too distracted … like, those distractions have been around the whole time.”

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Key Segment Timestamps

• Baseball lead & Blue Jays’ playoff win: [01:02]–[04:15]
• NFL Monday Night Football recap: [04:15]–[07:12]
• NBA season preview & intrigue: [07:12]–[10:11]
• Jeff Saturday interview: [12:06]–[17:40]
• Rapid fire & “Happy Time” historical notes: [20:47]–[23:50]
• Closing fast takes: [23:50]–end

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Tone & Takeaways

• Lively, friendly banter and sharp back-and-forth between Tony and Mike.
• Knowledgeable sports insight mixed with nostalgia and comic relief.
• The episode is anchored by baseball drama, but moves deftly across football and basketball topics.
• Listener Value: Ideal for sports fans seeking context and character with their analysis—PTI’s hallmark.

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Transcript

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[Mike Wilbon]

Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbon. The NBA season tips off tonight and Donovan Mitchell says his time is now. Tony, when was your time?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm Tony Kornheiser. My senior prom, May of 1934. And that was my time.

[Mike Wilbon]

Okay.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I went with Judy Garland.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah, I was there. Remember her? I'm not a math major, but that would make you born in like 1916 and there ain't nobody left from 19. Nobody.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Judy and I, it was great evening.

[Mike Wilbon]

Love it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Stayed out really late till about 11. We're gonna PTI. Boys and girls, in today's episode, the Lions and Seahawks win the NBA season tips off. And Jeff Saturday joins us for five good minutes. But we begin today with baseball in the upcoming World Series between the Dodgers and Toronto Blue Jays. The Blue Jays got to the series last night riding a three run seventh inning home run by George Springer, who now has 23 postseason home runs. Last night's homer gave the Blue Jays the 43 lead that their bullpen protected. Wilbon, what do you make of what the Blue Jays did last night and how they did it?

[Mike Wilbon]

There's no they. There's no they. There's no mystery. Springer hit that home run. I mean, that three run home run. I mean, the Mariners were in control of the game and the situation and it just felt like that. I felt like, wow, that there's going to be a lot to celebrate in Seattle tonight. They're going to kick this football game off, which we'll get to. And it's just Seattle's never been. I don't root against. Toronto and Seattle are two of my favorite cities in North America, if not the whole world. So I don't root against either one of them. So I sat there going, okay, what am I going to do here? I'm going to root for Seattle because they've never been because that franchise is the only one that's never been to forget winning. Never been to the World Series. And I like the Seattle personalities. They got some stars. I like their team, I love their ballpark, I like their city. And then Springer, who's already got a World Series MVP to his credit. He comes along and hits that bomb and it's like, oh my God, they just decimated Seattle. And they did. And I know it's not, you know, Carter hitting a home run, Joe Carter to win the World series whenever that was. 92, 93, whatever it was. But Tony, it felt like the next best thing if you're Toronto. Wow. Wow. Wow.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. Yeah. So I believe I had this right. Let's go back to yesterday when you refused to make a pick and you told people to shut up and just watch the game.

[Mike Wilbon]

That's right.

[Tony Kornheiser]

And I said I favored Toronto and here's why I favored Toronto. Because it's a hitters series, not a pitchers series. And I think they had better hitting. It had come around that the home teams were winning games. The road team started out winning the first four, then the home teams won the next two and obviously the next three. By winning last night and also because twice in the series before Mike Toronto had fallen behind on home runs early by Seattle and had climbed back in the game and had won the game, which is exactly what happened last night. Julio Rodriguez hit a home run in the third inning that made it 2 to 1 in favor of Seattle. Cal Rawley hit a home run in the fifth inning that made it 3 to 1. And then George Springer, who now is tied for three, third all time in postseason home runs and who has, as you say, got the ring from Houston. He went boom at that point. And I'll just say this about Springer. A couple of games ago, he took a 96 mile an hour fastball in the right knee, couldn't walk. He went down like a shot. He left the game and the people in Seattle booed him at that point. There's no better way to come back than what he did by hitting his home run. And by the way, I don't disagree with, with not putting your closer in in the seventh. Inn when you need eight outs. When you need eight outs for me.

[Mike Wilbon]

Tony, I will say this though about Seattle. When you got the MVP of the league. Next up, if you can get to him, stop swinging at questionable pitches. Stop. You can't just strike out all night long. Take a walk, move your hip in front of a pitch and get on base. You got Cal Raleigh with a bat in his hand. That made me feel less bad for Seattle. They didn't do what they needed to do to get to Cal Raleigh in the ninth. Last night's game seven swiped the spotlight away from two Monday Night Football games. In the first, the Lions smoked the Buccaneers, 218 scrimmage yards from Jameer Gibbs. And in the latter, the Seahawks beat the Texans. Both the Lions and Seahawks now are 5:2. So, Tony, which team season impresses you the most thus far?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I'm not taking anything away from the Seahawks. They're a fine team, but they beat a very mediocre team last night. Houston is 24 and a tremendous disappointment after the rookie season that C.J. stroud had what he looked to be all world. What Detroit has done is noteworthy. They just smothered a good team. Tampa Bay, a 51 team. They smothered them. I gotta get this one note here. They've got the best point differential in the NFC. They're plus 64. You have said for the first three or four weeks of the season that they were suffering from a brain drain. They lost their offensive coordinator. Yes, you did. One, they lost to offensive coordinator Ben Johnson. He's your coach now. He's done a good job. Except the game that Detroit pounded him 52 to 21. Right. They lost their defensive coordinator, Aaron Glenn, to the jets, where he's 07 and might be back on the sideline by December 15th. You know, patrolling for Detroit. Look, they have lost two games this year, Mike, to really good teams. At Green Bay, at Kansas City. They came back the next week after that. And their total point differential in two games where they pounded people is 76 to 30. So where exactly is this brain?

[Mike Wilbon]

I don't give a damn what they did the next week. What did they do when they had to play the big boys at Green Bay and Kansas City? They got their butts and handed to them, so stop slurping them. You can slurp them all you want. And I said, and I stand by it, that one week of brain drain and then they showed they had what they needed. The other team was Sam Darnold, who the Minnesota Vikings tossed out on his ear. They're the most impressive team so far, cuz they got in Jigba and Sam Darnold. Like you would have taken Sam Donald. No, you wouldn't have. But Seattle took him and they've crafted something. And they have something. Yes, last night's opponent was nothing, but don't give me how great Detroit is.

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[Mike Wilbon]

They played two big boy teams.

[Jeff Saturday]

2.

[Mike Wilbon]

Detroit's real good in Division 1 and they got smack beat out of him.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Detroit's real good.

[Mike Wilbon]

That's a fact.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Detroit's real good.

[Mike Wilbon]

Okay, you can execute that if you want.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let's move to basketball. Let's Move to basketball. You'll be. I know you'll be receptive to that. And tonight's NBA openers. Houston at defending champ Oklahoma City and Golden State at the Lakers. That's a pretty loaded start. You're welcome. NBC. Wilm, the NBA is your league. Tell us what player and what team most intrigues you at the start.

[Mike Wilbon]

The player's easy. And you know who this is. If we were playing, you know, the match game 1974 with Gene Rayburn, See how many people get that reference. You know where I'm going with this. It's Victor Wembanyama. There's no question. And anybody who writes any name down on the card except Wemby is just being silly teams you can take several of you already mentioned. One of them, Orlando is one of them you could take. I'm kind of intrigued by Detroit. I want to see what they're going to do. Is there a transition coming here? Because you got space in the east and you can have that, but Tony San Antonio is one of them. I don't think San Antonio is going to win or anything like that. I want to see Wim Banyama, who's had an incredible off season and he spent the whole time with Monks and Olajuwon and all kinds of doing all kinds of stuff to get himself ready to be great. I care about him and the teams. I didn't say okc, I didn't say them. Cause last year was their year to be fascinated with. I'm not fascinated with them, but I'm a San Antonio. How not to be fascinated with that young cast of characters.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Let me come back to you. Last year, you very loudly, very enthusiastically and very early declared that the Boston Celtics would not win the championship and repeat.

[Mike Wilbon]

Right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

And you were right. So I ask you right now, will Oklahoma City repeat? Yes or no?

[Mike Wilbon]

No. No, they won't. No. The league's too good. They have everything. Oklahoma City has everything you can have. And now the experience, the stars, the demeanor, the coachability, the coaches, they have the defense, they have everybody back. They have the personalities, they have it all. The league's too hard. You gotta go through.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So let me tell you what's bad. Look, I don't care about the NBA right now cuz I care about baseball right now and football right now. And also in the city in which I live, which is the city in which you live. The alleged professional basketball team, the Wizards, is embarking on yet a third straight year of trying to lose every single game. And they've gotten good at It. They stink at that at the moment. And they are cheating all of the people who are paying money for their tickets. You know what I look forward to this season? What? I look forward to the fact that Charles is going to be on this very channel and I can sit with my grandsons and I can say, I know him. I actually know him. That'll make me.

[Mike Wilbon]

You couldn't find him to tell your grandsons, I know him. You needed him to be.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't stream.

[Mike Wilbon]

Huh?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I don't stream. It's gotta be on this channel. Let's take a break. Coming up, is Jonathan Taylor's huge start proof that teams can still build around running backs? We're gonna ask Jeff Saturday.

[Mike Wilbon]

Hate to let you in on this, but Turner was extreme. It was on everything. We'll also ask him whether he's backing Broderick Jones or Aaron Rodgers in that Thursday night mishap. I should have mentioned Houston. Houston's worth watching. You know they are. I mean, with a lot of attention. The Lakers are worth watching if LeBron plays. Not tonight.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Is he gonna play? He's not starting. Not starting the season.

[Mike Wilbon]

Neither one of us has.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

All right, let's dig into the NFL trenches with our great friend, ESPN NFL analyst Jeff Saturday. Jeff, let's start with A question about your old team, the Colts. Daniel Jones gets a lot of attention and deservedly for what the Colts are doing. But Jonathan Taylor leads the NFL right now, 697 yards and total touchdowns with 11. Do you think the teams can still build around a running back in this day and age?

[Jeff Saturday]

Well, let me see. The last, the last team that won the super bowl was last year, was around a, around a running back, me and Saquon Barkley. So absolutely. Not only do I think it, it can be, I think it should be done that way. Right? Let's take some pressure off the quarterback and not make him have to be our hero week in and week out. You think about, they're scoring on 63% of their drives. Jonathan Taylor, he's an explosive back. That gets you explosive plays in the run game that has taken so much pressure off of Daniel Jones. And whether it's, you know, Tyler Warren at the tight end position or Pitman or Alex Pierce or Josh Downs, it. Everybody gets a turn. But all that starts and is predicated on the run game. Their offensive line does a fantastic job, you know, running the ball. Tony Sparano, the junior, the, the offensive line coach has done a great job in their run game scheme. Shane Sten, calling these plays correctly. It can definitely, definitely be run through a running back. And Jonathan Taylor is having an MVP season even though he doesn't get mentioned with all the quarterbacks.

[Mike Wilbon]

Classic football, which we love as old people. All right, we got. I'm behavior obsessed right now. Jeff St. Start with this. The NFL has suspended Broncos linebacker Dre Greenlaw one game for unsportsmanlike conduct toward a referee. Okay. You had a lot of experience, more than a decade, having to talk to refs in heated moments. Is there an approach, is there a way that you approach these guys to stay away from 15 yards and a yellow flag?

[Jeff Saturday]

Yeah, listen, you start early in the game, right before there's a necessity of making a call. And you know, you, you get along with these guys. They're out there to do a job too. They don't want to be the story of the game. They don't want you. Nobody wants all that attention put on a call at some point in the game, including the referees. And so, yeah, I think, listen, from. I don't know what was said, but to get suspended in the NFL, most referees, I don't know. I don't know the guy that he yelled at. I don't know, like if he's had something. But, but it has to be pretty bad because there's been some really, some really nasty things said to some referees on the sideline. I've never suspended. I was like, man, whatever he said had to have crossed some kind of line for them to suspend him. So obviously you want to work with these guys. So it, when it does come down to a big time call, you know, you, you've gotten some goodwill with these guys. And we all work at offensive line, defensive line. Everybody's trying to befriend the, the, the referees as the game goes on, but ultimately, I think on the large scale, they, they do a pretty good job. So I don't know what was said, but it had to be bad to get a game suspension.

[Mike Wilbon]

This next story is so cool to me. The Baltimore sun is reporting that the Ravens have removed a basketball hoop, ping pong table, cornhole boards, and video games from the locker room, which to me now, in this day and age, there's not a bedroom, a teenage bedroom, or a locker room that's worth a damn without these things. Jeff, is this going to work? Is this going to have influence on players in the slump the Ravens are in?

[Jeff Saturday]

I don't think, I think, I don't think one has anything to do with the other. If they were the AFC playing for the AFC championship a couple years ago and as hot as they were last year, when they, you know, when they lose above a little, what, what's changed, right? Do they think all of a sudden the ping pong table has manifested into some kind of, you know, some kind of thing they can't get away from or the, or the video games or, like, come on. I mean, it's whatever was going on in the locker room, then nothing's changing. They're not playing well. They're not executing it. So if it's like punitive, right, like, we're going to punish you. If you play well, we'll put this stuff back, okay? But if it's like, no, we're too distracted, like, those distractions have been around the whole time. I'm not sure what this is, but yeah, whatever guys do during their break time, I really don't care when you show up to practice or show up to a meeting. Be sharp, be a professional, have a pen in hand, paper to write on. Let's get this thing done. When you walk on the field, shoes are tied, helmets buckled, we're going to work, right? But all the rest of it, it's all ancillary in my mind.

[Tony Kornheiser]

I will get you out of here on this and I'll stay with the Behavior theme that Wilbon likes so much. Steelers left tackle Broderick Jones was trying to celebrate with Aaron Rodgers accidentally tackled him, and Rodgers appeared upset. Whose side are you on in this?

[Jeff Saturday]

I'm on the old man side. He's too old for that big human being to be laying his body on it. You know, he ain't stable with. We get older. We, we. We're off balance, man. You don't. Broderick don't even know what he don't know. He. Everything feels good to br. He'll go play a game and want to go play a game Wednesday, you know what I mean? We're like, hold up, bro. I got to go from Sunday to Sunday. Aaron's old. His body hurts. Here comes big bro bumping up on him like, you too big to be playing with, man. Like, settle down, dude. Take it easy on these old bodies. He had to go. He had to go out west to his body guru during the off time to get himself ready. Come home, man. That's self inflicted. W. We can't have any of that.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's great, Jeff. Pleasure as always, Jeff. Thanks so much.

[Jeff Saturday]

I love you guys.

[Tony Kornheiser]

We will take one last break. Still to come, the Angels hire a former player to be their next manager. But is it the one you're thinking of?

[Mike Wilbon]

And could the Cowboys trade for a huge name on defense? Aaron could just get some ayahuasca. There's got to be some in the locker room. An ayahuasca disruption Spencer for when he gets, you know, sort of bumped or jostled.

[Tony Kornheiser]

That's sort of interesting. I can imagine. If you're Aaron Rodgers at 41, you're thinking, what are you doing?

[Mike Wilbon]

What are you doing here?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Don't be touching me, like, ever.

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[Tony Kornheiser]

Happy time people. Happy 76th birthday. Mike Keenan, the old school coach, spent 20 years in the NHL coaching eight different teams, most recently Calgary in 2009. Keenan won the Stanley cup with the New York Rangers in 1994. The celebrated Mark Messier team. The Rangers had not won the cup in 54 years and haven't won it since. Keenan got to the Stanley Cup Final with the Philadelphia Flyers in 1985 and 1987, losing both times to the Edmonton Oilers with Wayne Gretzky and Mark Messier. He got to the Cup Final with the Chicago Blackhawks in 1992, losing to Pittsburgh with Mario Lemieux and Jaromir Jagr. So Keenan's teams were beaten by elite. He also coached Florida, Boston, Vancouver and St. Louis.

[Mike Wilbon]

He had a way about him, Tony and I wonder if Keenan we just saw a clip of him screaming at a Blackhawks goaltender. I think that was 1992. Is there a legit comparison between Keenan and Billy Martin. Or is that too over the top to you?

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's a little over the top for me. Maybe not for you. A little bit for me. Happy anniversary, Carlton Fisk. On this day 50 years ago, in game six of the World Series, Fisk stood at home plate, famously waving his 12th inning deep fly ball fair. His home run gave the Red Sox a dramatic 76 win over Cincinnati. Boston would go on and lose game seven to the Big Red machine and continue their streak without a World series title. Since 1918. The hall of Fame catcher was a beloved player on the Red Sox and the White Sox over 24 seasons. Fisk was Rookie of the Year, a gold medal. Glover, an 11 time all star, a three time silver slugger. That World Series featured Fisk and Johnny Bench, two of the greatest catchers ever.

[Mike Wilbon]

Tony. I bet nobody outside Chicago knows that Fisk played more games 14:21 for the White Sox than he played for The Red Sox. 1078. If we go all time catchers, all time. The names to me are Barra, Campanella, Fisk, Cochran, Dickey, Bench and Josh Gibson. Am I missing? I can't be. Maybe I'm not missing anybody. But you got bench higher, right?

[Tony Kornheiser]

I got bench highest usually. But here's what you're missing.

[Mike Wilbon]

What?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Cal Rawley's on that road now. He's on the road and we will see.

[Mike Wilbon]

Fair enough.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Happy trails to Albert Pujols, managing the Angels. The team today hired former catcher Kurt Suzuki to do it. Pujols once seemed like a shoo in for the gig, but talks about broke down in the interviews with the Padres tomorrow, a much better team. Pujols is said to be held in high regard by San Diego's two biggest stars, fellow Dominicans Manny Machado and Fernando Tatis Jr. Pujols just won a title as manager of a Dominican Winter League team and the Orioles have also been interested in talking to him about their managerial opening.

[Mike Wilbon]

I'm sorry, but if you're going to live in Southern California and be a manager and you're Albert Pujols, if you're not going to manage the Dodgers, it ain't gonna be the Angels. You're gonna go to San Diego with that lineup and that ballpark and all they got going on, at least I would.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, they're ready to win. Yeah, they're ready to win. The right place to go. Big finish. Here we go.

[Mike Wilbon]

Let's do it.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Rick Pitino told Matt Norlander of CBS that expanding March Madness from 68 to 76 schools could only help. You surprised by that.

[Mike Wilbon]

I don't know if I'm surprised by it, but Tony, I just don't want to see it. No more teams. Just stop. Just play the tournament. Jets owner Woody Johnson said he believes in Aaron Glenn and quote, it's hard when you have a quarterback with the rating that we've got. Close quote. Ouch. Your thoughts?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. I mean, the owner, who's not a very good owner, just crushed the quarterback, Justin Fields, who put him on the team.

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Which coach?

[Mike Wilbon]

Which owner? Yeah.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Mike Tirico interviews Michael Jordan on NBC tonight. I'll bet you're intrigued by that.

[Mike Wilbon]

I texted somebody named Michael today to say I can't wait to see this segment tonight. At you can figure out who Trey Wingo says the Cowboys have asked the Raiders about a potential trade for Max Crosby. Big deal.

[Tony Kornheiser]

It would be if they made that. Would they trade him? Really? Would they trade him? Last one. Panthers at Bruins tonight. You intrigued by that?

[Mike Wilbon]

No.

[Tony Kornheiser]

No.

[Mike Wilbon]

It's like you said about the NBA, it's too early for the NHL, it's too early. I peek in at all of it. Intrigued, Intrigue. Let's not get crazy.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Really, Marchand. Going back to Boston? Really? We're out of time. Try to do better the next time. I'm Tony Kornheit.

[Mike Wilbon]

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