Do the Panthers Have a DECIDED Advantage Over the Oilers?

Summary

PTI Podcast Episode Summary

Title: Do the Panthers Have a DECIDED Advantage Over the Oilers?
Host/Authors: ESPN's Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilbon
Release Date: June 10, 2025

In this episode of PTI, Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilbon delve into a variety of sports topics, ranging from the NHL Stanley Cup Final to NBA trade speculations, soccer controversies, and notable moments in other sports. The hosts engage in lively discussions, offering insights, analysis, and humor throughout. Below is a detailed summary of the key points covered in the episode.

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1. Stanley Cup Final: Florida vs. Edmonton Oilers

Discussion Overview:
The hosts kick off the episode by analyzing the Stanley Cup Final between the Florida Panthers and the Edmonton Oilers. They discuss the recent game where Florida routed Edmonton 6-1, taking a 2-1 lead in the series.

Key Points:

• Game Analysis: Tony Kornheiser questions whether either team has established a "decided advantage" after the latest game. Mike Wilbon argues that Edmonton's collapse indicates a potential tipping of the scales.
• Team Performance: Mike criticizes the Oilers for their poor display, citing excessive penalties (21) and conceding power-play goals.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wilbon [01:21]: "The Edmonton Oilers fell apart. They melted down. They played like petulant little children."
• Tony Kornheiser [02:25]: "So you can't really take 21 penalties and you can't give up power play goal."

2. NBA Insights: Knicks and Jason Kidd's Potential Coaching Role

Discussion Overview:
Kornheiser and Wilbon shift focus to the NBA, specifically the New York Knicks' interest in hiring Jason Kidd as their head coach. They examine the complexities surrounding Kidd's potential move from the Dallas Mavericks to the Knicks.

Key Points:

• Jason Kidd's Current Situation: Kidd is under contract with the Mavericks, and the Knicks would need to negotiate his release or consider a trade.
• Challenges in New York: The Knicks have a history of short-tenured coaches, raising concerns about Kidd's long-term prospects in the role.
• Implications for Mavericks: Tony suggests that the Mavericks are the ones to initiate any move regarding Kidd.

Notable Quotes:

• Tony Kornheiser [04:47]: "When you have a player like Jason or a coach like Jason Kibb, you don't request permission to interview him."
• Mike Wilbon [05:50]: "It's a dilemma. It's a legit dilemma."

3. Soccer Controversy: Pulisic's Dad vs. Landon Donovan

Discussion Overview:
The hosts discuss the tension between Christian Pulisic's father and US soccer legend Landon Donovan. The conflict arose after Donovan praised Cristiano Ronaldo, leading Pulisic's dad to critique Donovan's stance on player participation in the Gold Cup.

Key Points:

• Donovan's Praise: Donovan lauded Ronaldo's performance, stating, "This is what it means to represent your country."
• Pulisic's Dad's Response: He accused Donovan of hypocrisy, highlighting that half of the US team is absent from the Gold Cup.
• Impact on Team Morale: Mike expresses frustration over the team's losing streak and emphasizes the pressure on Pulisic as a star player.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wilbon [08:01]: "I'm sort of with Pulisic's dad. I'm also a dad and I get it."
• Mike Wilbon [10:10]: "Because here is my point. None."

4. NBA Finals Focus: Pacers vs. Thunder and Tyrese Halliburton's Performance

Discussion Overview:
Kornheiser and Wilbon analyze the upcoming Game Three of the NBA Finals between the Indiana Pacers and the Oklahoma City Thunder, with a spotlight on Tyrese Halliburton's struggles against the Thunder.

Key Points:

• Halliburton's Challenges: Tony highlights Halliburton’s difficulty in getting into the lane and his reduced shot volume due to effective Thunder defense.
• Thunder's Defensive Strategy: The Thunder, coached by Rick Carlisle, employ a strategy that disrupts key players like Halliburton and Pascal Siakam.
• Future Implications: Brian Windhorst joins to discuss potential adjustments and the significance of the upcoming game.

Notable Quotes:

• Tony Kornheiser [12:53]: "He can't get into his normal rhythm."
• Mike Wilbon [14:01]: "Rick Carlisle has been wizard, like, throughout the regular season."

5. NBA Trade Speculations: Giannis Antetokounmpo and Kevin Durant

Discussion Overview:
The conversation turns to NBA trade rumors, specifically focusing on stars Giannis Antetokounmpo and Kevin Durant. They explore the likelihood and potential impact of these players changing teams.

Key Points:

• Giannis Antetokounmpo: Currently with the Milwaukee Bucks, Tony believes Giannis is unlikely to be traded in the short term, emphasizing the team's intent to rebuild around him.
• Kevin Durant: Contrarily, Durant appears to be a more viable trade target due to his contract situation and the Suns' recent coaching changes.

Notable Quotes:

• Tony Kornheiser [17:31]: "I don't think you're going to see Giannis traded in the short term future."
• Tony Kornheiser [18:00]: "The Suns are still doing business. They just introduced their new head coach, Jordan Ott, this afternoon."

6. Legacy and Sports Legends: Joe Montana's Birthday Tribute

Discussion Overview:
The hosts pay homage to Joe Montana on his 69th birthday, debating his standing among the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history.

Key Points:

• Montana vs. Brady: Brian argues that Montana consistently delivered game-winning performances, countering the argument that Tom Brady's seven Super Bowls make him superior.
• Draft Success: Highlighting Montana's impressive career despite being a third-round draft pick, juxtaposing his achievements with those of other legendary quarterbacks like Johnny Unitas.

Notable Quotes:

• Brian Windhorst [21:02]: "Montana won every super bowl he was in and Brady lost a few."
• Mike Wilbon [21:43]: "Joe Montana did it regularly. I'm just saying Montana, visually... I'm going with Joe Montana."

7. MLB Highlight: Denzel Clark's Spectacular Catch

Discussion Overview:
A remarkable defensive play by A's rookie center fielder Denzel Clark is highlighted, showcasing his potential in Major League Baseball.

Key Points:

• The Catch: Clark made an improbable catch to rob Nolan Shanel from an apparent home run, demonstrating exceptional athleticism.
• Reactions: The play left players and fans in awe, with commentators praising Clark's defensive prowess.
• Future Prospects: Tony anticipates that Clark will continue to make significant impacts as a rookie.

Notable Quotes:

• Brian Windhorst [23:01]: "Look at the slack-jawed reactions from pitcher Grant Holman and Shanuel himself."
• Mike Wilbon [23:45]: "This guy's the greatest as a rookie. The greatest, really."

8. NFL Update: Key Players Missing from Mandatory Minicamp

Discussion Overview:
The episode wraps up with updates from the NFL, noting that several high-profile players missed the first day of mandatory minicamp due to unspecified health issues.

Key Points:

• Affected Players: Deion Sanders, TJ Watt, Trey Hendrickson, and Terry McLaurin.
• Implications: The absence of these players could have significant impacts on their respective teams' preparations for the upcoming season.

Notable Quotes:

• Mike Wilbon [23:57]: "Deion and I share some health issues. I don't know if this is one of those, but whatever it is, all the best."
• Mike Wilbon [24:12]: "TJ Watt makes one of the greatest catches anybody has ever."

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Conclusion:
Throughout the episode, Tony Kornheiser and Mike Wilbon provide comprehensive coverage of multiple sports narratives, blending statistical analysis with personal opinions and anecdotes. Their dynamic interplay offers listeners a balanced perspective on current sports events, underlying trends, and the potential future developments across various leagues.

Transcript

[Tony Kornheiser]

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[Mike Wilbon]

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[Mike Wilbon]

Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbon. The strawberry moon rises tonight. Tony, what's your favorite moon?

[Brian Windhorst]

I'm Tony Kornheiser. The one I press against my front window when the UPS guy shows up. That's it.

[Mike Wilbon]

Oh, don't do that. I thought you were gonna say, like me, that strawberry moon reminds me. It sounds like a prince title.

[Brian Windhorst]

I wasn't gonna say that. I was first thinking about Warren Moon, of course, and then I thought about Randy Moss. Remember when Randy Moss did that thing by the goal post? Remember that? That's the first.

[Mike Wilbon]

Didn't Jim McMahon do that? McMahon did that super Bowl.

[Brian Windhorst]

Probably. Probably. Today's episode, the Knicks and Jason Kidd U.S. soccer Beef. And Brian Windhorse joins us for five good minutes. But we with the Stanley cup final, the venue moved to Florida last night and we had our first game that did not go into overtime. In fact, Florida routed Edmonton 6 to 1 to take a 2 to 1 lead in the series. Well, by yesterday we both said that neither team had established a decided advantage. What are you saying today?

[Mike Wilbon]

Wow. It looks decided today if you can have a decided advantage at 2 1. But Tony is because of the mood, not the score of the game. And the score of the game has something to do with it. But the Edmonton Oilers fell apart. They melted down. They played like petulant little children. They couldn't get their way. So we're going to scrum this up like a game in December. No, no, no, no. And then in a series, and they're all short, even a long series, still four out of seven, you get halfway through that series, another team gets an advantage on you. That's a champion. This isn't like last year to me when Edmonton came back from 30 down to force a game 7. And we know the teams are fairly even and most of us, I'm one of them, gives Edmonton an advantage in terms of talent and depth before a couple of injuries, it may have changed that. But they just let. And I don't do I know what they said after the game, but to me, watching that entire game fairly intensely and annoyed at the end of it, they left Florida getting underneath their skin completely got rattled and now they got to find some answers in a hurry.

[Brian Windhorst]

So you can't really take 21 penalties and you can't give up power play goal. I mean you can't do that. Okay, so I'm going to pretty much stick with my position from yesterday While admitting that 6:1 is a beat down. And I'm going to point out to you that there is a game four coming up and that if you look at the playoff history of both of these teams, they tend when beaten to come back and win a game. Edmonton lost two games in a row only once in these playoffs to the Kings. Florida lost two games in a row only once in these playoffs. That was the Toronto. And so I'm not going to be surprised if Edmonton wins this game. But if they lose game four then they're digging themselves a big hole. Not quite as big as what you mentioned being down 30 and having to win three in a row to get to, you know, a game seven but a big hole. They are still even with this loss, Mike, they are still six and four on the road in these playoffs so I think you'd be foolish to automatically count them out. And they had a freak thing happen last night in their playoff history in that Draisaitl and McDavid did not score any points at all. That's bad for Edmonton. They're 2 and 11 in their playoff history when that happens. But the last time it happened twice in a row, Mike, if I have these notes correct, was 2021. It doesn't happen regularly and if they score, obviously they have a chance. So I'm, you know, I'm more of the mind to think, oh, okay. I like Edmondson's chances tonight even though others might not. I do.

[Mike Wilbon]

Tone, Tone, I don't disagree with you about the bounce back and all the reasons you just led up to. I'm just saying a meltdown is not good because then your coach has got to deal with some things and your captains and all that, they got to deal with some things on an off day they shouldn't have to be dealing with. They should just be countering Florida. And now they got some other stuff. So I, you know, fascinating game four situation coming up. Let's move to the NBA. Our own Brian Windhorst reports that Knicks and Jason Kidd share a mutual intrigue about the Knicks head opening at coach. Kidd is currently in that same role in Dallas, of course, and the Mavs would need to grant permission for Knicks, the Knicks to speak with him. Tony, if you're J. Kidd, would you want to leave the Mavericks and presumed number one pick Cooper Flagg for your New York Knicks?

[Brian Windhorst]

Okay, so that's A two part question. The first part is, if I am Jason Kidd, I am leery about staying in Dallas right now. The owner that I came in to work for, Mark Cuban, is not the owner anymore. There are new owners now of that team. I believe that the general manager, Nico Harrison, will be fired, and I believe he should be fired for the Luka Doncic trade. And even though you and I are sort of inclined to believe that the lottery was fixed so that Dallas could get Cooper Flag, I'm not sure that I want to stay if I'm Jason Kidd. But the other part of that is, do I want to go to the Knicks? Let's look at Jim Dolan. Let's look at what happens with coaches who go to the New York Knicks. I've had something like nine different head coaches in 22 or 23 years. They're working on their 10. So the shelf life of a coach in New York is. Is very short. Do I want to look? They just fired a guy who went to the conference finals for the first time in over 20 years. Who does that? Is that what you want to get involved with, Tony?

[Mike Wilbon]

It's a dilemma. It's a legit dilemma. I thought of you as this story began to percolate, because going back, you were very early on, when J Kid was in college, you were fascinated with J. Kidd. You always loved the way he saw the game proceed. I know you had. And as a coach. Yes. And so I thought of you and I'm like, aha. Tony will jump on this and love for Jason Kidd to go to New York, but it is a dilemma. You're right about it. It's tough. He doesn't know these new owners, Tony, who have a reputation of. Not so far. If any reputation is not communicating with anybody. And if you're J. Kidd, you're like, what am I doing here? I don't know if Kyrie is going to be healthy enough to come back or even contractually will come back. I don't know what that is. Anthony Davis, a great player. We don't know how much a percentage of time is going to be out there. Is Cooper Flag ready to contribute and contribute right away. And the New York Knicks want to win now. And maybe that's the intrigue Tone. They're going to be involved with Kevin Durant, I think more than Giannis and Giannis.

[Brian Windhorst]

Well, well, he coached Jalen Brunson. He coached him for a few years. I understand draw there, but this is important to say and we've gone over this a lot this is New York. This is bright lights, big city. This is splashy. They're not coming back with the exact same roster. They want something bigger and better because they think they're close. They could trade Karl Anthony Towns to get what they want. So I expect that there's hesitation on both sides. We move now to soccer. I love this story. Apparent beef between Christian Pulisic's dad and all time US Great Landon Donovan. Donovan was on TV the other day marveling at Cristiano Ronaldo's great play for Portugal against Spain. And Donovan said, quote, this is what it means to represent your country. And I can't help but think of some of our guys who are on vacation right now not wanting to play the Gold Cup. It pisses me off. Unquote. Christian Pulisic is on vacation right now not playing for the US in the Gold cup for what he says is injury recovery. And his dad came back at Donovan using artificial intelligence to say Donovan had taken a sabbatical from the US team in 2012 and 2013, citing burnout. Wilbot, whose side are you on in this one? Donovan's or Pulisics?

[Mike Wilbon]

This is hard for me too. First of all, artificial intelligence has nothing to do with it. He took a break. That's fact. You don't need AI. Donovan did not play. Now the other thing is half the US Team is not playing in the Gold Cup. Half the team, the guys that you expect to see in the red, white and blue next summer in the World cup, they're not playing in the Gold Cup. So, you know, I'm more with. The more I think about it, I'm sort of with Pulisic's dad. I'm also a dad and I get it. If somebody took a shot and I perceived it at my kid, I would come roaring back too. But Tony, you know, the team is in a funk already. They've lost three straight games. I don't know where they go from here. And, and I'm not willing to blame it all on Christian Pulisic, but he better be a big boy. He's the star of the team. He makes a ton of money internationally. He's in the crosshairs. That's fair. That's fair.

[Brian Windhorst]

So I'm on the side against artificial intelligence making an argument. I think if you have to go to a robot to decide how you think that, that's no good. Christian Pulisic's dad, not Christian Pulisic. Christian Pulisic's dad was incredibly mean and nasty to Donovan. I mean, if you read that stuff, you go, whoa, whoa. So we are in an era now of dads making news. We got Christian Pulisic's dad. We got Tyrese Halliburton's dad. Happy Father's Day to both of them. I don't know much about Christian Pulisic. I'm not a soccer guy, but I know he's supposed to be great. Except not everybody says he's great. Like Alexi Lalas once very derisively called him wonder boy. I don't know his vacation schedule either. I don't know if he's on vacation. Whatever. But I do understand if former players like Landon Donovan and. Who's the other guy who was down there? Clint Dempsey. If they were chagrined that the American players were taking, you know, taking all this time off. Just remind me, Mike, because I'm not a soccer guy. How many World Cups have we won with Christian Pulisic? Oh, that's right. We haven't won any. How many we went with Donovan and.

[Mike Wilbon]

Clint Dempsey and how many we went with those guys?

[Brian Windhorst]

None.

[Mike Wilbon]

Lexi Lalas?

[Brian Windhorst]

None.

[Mike Wilbon]

How many you win?

[Brian Windhorst]

Because here is. Here is my point. None. Because we are still 10 years away from being 10 years away. That's who we are.

[Mike Wilbon]

Be careful. You're gonna get yourself in trouble with the soccer purists. That gonna come after pti.

[Brian Windhorst]

Oh, coming up, how will the Pacers try to get Tyrese Halliburton back on track against the Thunder? We'll ask Bryan Windross. Not his dad, don't worry.

[Mike Wilbon]

We'll also ask him what he's hearing about any potential trades involving big stars in basketball. And we don't win anything. We're 20 years from being 10 years old.

[Brian Windhorst]

We are a co host of the World Cup. You know how you stop all the criticism? Win it.

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[Brian Windhorst]

Game three of the NBA Finals isn't until tomorrow night, but we've got questions today for our great friend ESPN senior writer and the host of the Hoop Collective podcast, which I have seen Mr. Brian Windhorse. Let's start with this game three tomorrow in Indianapolis. You're in Indianapolis. Tyrese Halliburton Did Tyrese Halliburton things in Game one, but not in Game two. Do you see that as an off night or as a product of how he was specifically defended?

[Tony Kornheiser]

It's been an off two years for him against the Thunder. If you go back and look, Tony, at the last two years, that's six games. Two games last year, two games in the regular season this year, two games in this series. Halliburton can't get it done against him. He really has difficulty getting into the lane, getting in transition. You can tell in his shots. He only averages 11 shots those six games. That's a pretty big sample size, just 11 shots. He can't get into his normal rhythm. And the other thing is he is being bothered by some sort of minor lower leg thing. You know, he doesn't want to talk about it, rick Carlisle said he's in some discomfort. Maybe it's inhibiting him 5, 10%, but you just can't have that against the Thunder. The big thing for him is the number of shots. It's not like that for everybody, and I know that the Thunder have or the Pacers have a democratic offense, but when he scores over 20 points, they're 7 and 1 in the playoffs. He also averages 11 assists in those games. So when he's getting shots, they're working. He's not getting the shots. It's because the Thunder is so good at keeping out of lane and I don't see an antidote that's going to change that.

[Mike Wilbon]

Let's go to antidote for A second, Rick Carlisle has been wizard, like, throughout the regular season, starting in January and through these playoffs, as you know, Brian, in terms of just giving his guys, or maybe a guy on a night an advantage. Anything that you see or people talking about there that might unlock Halliburton necessarily against that OKC defense.

[Tony Kornheiser]

So the one thing that Pacers are so good at and Carlisle game plans so well is finding matchup advantages. They hunted the matchup advantages that they saw that they had against the Bucs. They destroyed the Cavs smaller perimeter, getting Halliburton and their other perimeter players in good matchups. And you saw what they did to Jalen Brunson and Karl Towns. But there's no weak links on this Thunder defense. And that's not an insult to Carlisle or the Pacers. That's just because this is how the Thunder are built. And they have a hard time hunting those matchup problems. And not only that, they're playing a specific way against Pascal Siakam. They're just roughing them up. It has been their game plan all year long to rough up guys and let the chips fall where they may with the officials. The officials are allowing playoff contact. They're getting away with it. And it's slowing Siakam down, too. Siakam can't get his shot numbers up. It's why beating the Thunder four out of seven times and now you're talking about beating him three more out of five is so difficult.

[Mike Wilbon]

Well, we're all waiting for game three in Indianapolis in the finals. There's so much stuff going on. Chatter. Brian, I know you're in the center of reporting and listening to this and being interested in it. The mutual interest that we believe exists between J. Kidd and the Knicks, where is that now? Has it advanced? When do we expect those two to talk if we do?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah. So I believe that Jason Kidd is the Knicks focus. He's the guy that they want to make their next head coach. But obviously he's under contract with the Mavericks. And I would say, and you guys know this, when you have a player like Jason or a coach like Jason Kibb, you don't request permission to interview him. You're not bringing him in and asking him his philosophy when they're down three points or whatever, you're asking permission to hire him. So don't pay so much attention to the permission. What it will come down to is whether the Mavericks are willing to let Jason Kidd go. So as I see it, the Mavericks, the ball is in the Mavericks court now. They are aware of The Knicks interest and they have one of three choices. Number one, they can just tell the Knicks, no, we're not interested in losing him. We're not interested in doing business with you. Good luck to you. They can make sure Jason Kidd doesn't want to go to New York, which the way to do that is typically with a new contract. They just gave him one last year. But a lot has changed on the Mavericks since he got that contract. Or they can trade him there. And we have seen three or four coaches get traded over the last couple of decades, including Jason Kidd back in 2014, got traded for from the Bucs or from the Nets to the Bucks. And let me tell you, they didn't ask for permission on that one until it was already a done deal. They gave them two second round picks. So that's what the Mavericks have to do. They have to work through this, work through this with Kidd and they are the ones who are going to make the next move in this process.

[Brian Windhorst]

All right, let me get you out of here on this. And we're talking about things, not necessarily about the NBA Finals now, but more peripheral things. Are you hearing anything new regarding big names who may be on the move, specifically Giannis, specifically Kevin Durant or anyone else?

[Tony Kornheiser]

Yeah, let's talk about Giannis right away. Okay. We are now in the beginning or the middle almost of June. Giannis Antetnecompo is overseas. I believe he is in Brazil. He has not asked the Bucks for a trade right now, as far as I am aware, there are no plans for a meeting with the Bucs to ask for a trade. The Bucs are, are not intending on trading him. They want him to return. They want to put their team back together and try to make another run next year. So right now Giannis is not going to be on the trade market and I think we're headed for a draft situation where he is not a part of that. Will that stay the same? Let's check back. Let's see what the Bucs do with their roster. Let's see where Giannis is at in July, in August. I don't think you're going to see Giannis traded in the short term future as far as I can see. Don't feel that way about Kevin Durant. The Suns are still doing business. They just introduced their new head coach, Jordan Ott this afternoon. I expect them to move on to looking at the Kevin Durant trade market. The key thing with Durant is this. He has one year left on his contract, guys, which means if you are going to trade for him. He is probably going to want to sign an extension and that means he's going to want to participate in the process. The Suns do not have to do that. They can trade him wherever, but but it is more likely a team will give him more, give up more to get him if they think he's more than a rental. And to become more than a rental, he needs to be involved in the process. There's a handful of teams that I think have interest. The Knicks are one of them. But there's a handful of teams that I think will have interest and we'll see how that plays out probably over the next couple of weeks.

[Brian Windhorst]

Thank you Brian. As always, enjoy the day.

[Mike Wilbon]

Brian, appreciate you, man.

[Tony Kornheiser]

Thanks guys. Thanks guys.

[Brian Windhorst]

Let's take one last break. Still to come, some big names in the NFL are missing from mandatory minicamp.

[Mike Wilbon]

And A's outfielder Denzel Clark makes one of the greatest catches anybody has ever.

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[Brian Windhorst]

Happy time people. Happy 69th birthday tomorrow. Joe Montana, quite simply one of the best quarterbacks of all time. Maybe the best. Okay, you will say, well, Tom Brady won seven Super Bowls and Montana only won four. But Montana won every super bowl he was in and Brady lost a few. Like Brady, who was ignored in the draft for five plus rounds, Montana wasn't drafted until the third round in 1979. Coming out of Notre Dame with the national championship, Montana had an enormous impact in San Francisco Francisco under Bill Walsh. Montana to Rice, Montana to Clark, Montana to Taylor. I would be very comfortable listing Montana, Brady and Unitas as the best quarterbacks ever. And you know what round Unitis was drafted in? The ninth.

[Mike Wilbon]

Tony is having an argument with Don, discussion with my brother Don this weekend in which I said Tom Brady's the goat. I don't have any argument against it, but Tom Brady never brought me out of my seat with a play. Joe Montana did it regularly. I'm just saying Montana, visually, if I wanted to pay to see a man play the position of quarterback, I'm going with Joe Montana and John Elway bring you out of your seat like nobody else ever did to me.

[Brian Windhorst]

Not so Happy anniversary Torrey Hunter on this day 10 years ago in his 19th and final season, the nine time Gold Glove outfielder objected so much to a called third strike that he proceeded to strip off all his equipment. Excuse me, elbow, guard, gloves, helmet, including his jersey in protest. Great video. Hunter, now 49, joined the Angels front office as a special assistant to the gm, a position he held with the Twins for about six years. Hunter was a five time All Star, two time Silver Slugger. He hasn't made a dent in the hall of Fame voting and will likely get a last chance next year. Hall of Famer Wilbon well, his hall.

[Mike Wilbon]

Of Fame monitor comps are. Two of them are Dwight Evans and Dave Parker. Parker's in, Evans should be so I lean toward that. And the Twins need to go back to those uniforms. Those are great classic uniforms.

[Brian Windhorst]

Happy trails to a home run for Nolan Shanuel. The Angels first baseman appeared to hit his fourth home run of the season in the first inning last night, but A's rookie center fielder Denzel Clark scaled the wall and stretched the to make a completely improbable catch. Look at the slack jawed reactions from pitcher Grant Holman and Shanuel himself. Clark's manager Mark Kotze said. Quote I asked Our bench coach, Darren Bush. If he'd fallen over the fence, how would they have ruled that? That's about as far over a fence as you can get without going over, unquote. Clark made a similar but less spectacular catch against Toronto just last month.

[Mike Wilbon]

Hit another catch at third where he runs and bounces. Boost us off a wall which we're not even having there. This guy's the greatest in the game right now. He has to be defensively.

[Brian Windhorst]

He's a rookie. He's the greatest as a rookie. The greatest, really. Finish. Here we go.

[Mike Wilbon]

Nobody better.

[Brian Windhorst]

Deon out of the office was an unspecified health issue. Your thoughts?

[Mike Wilbon]

Deion and I share some health issues. I don't know if this is one of those, but whatever it is, all the best. Absolutely. To Deion Sanders, TJ Watt, Trey Hendrickson and Terry McLaurin all missed the first day of mandatory minicamp. What's the biggest deal to.

[Brian Windhorst]

They're all incredibly valuable. They need. They're going to get money. They have to. Scotty Scheffler is paired with Colin Morikawa and Victor Hovland to start the U.S. open. You like that?

[Mike Wilbon]

You know, I have a favorite in that group. Mr. Morikawa. I'm rooting for T.J. oshi of the Capitals, retired after 16 seasons. How are you going to remember his career?

[Brian Windhorst]

I remember the shootout goals he had in the Olympics and I remember that he won a cup with the Capitals. Last one. Yankee starter Max Freed tries to go 91 when he faces the Royals tonight. Do you like his chances?

[Mike Wilbon]

Yeah, 8 and 117 8. I do like his chances.

[Brian Windhorst]

Tom, we are out of time. We will try and do better the next time. I'm Tony Kornheiser.

[Mike Wilbon]

And I'm Mike Wilbon. Same time tomorrow, knuckleheads. Tony, we lost Sly Stone over the the last few days.

[Brian Windhorst]

Everyday People is such a great song.

[Damian Lillard]

In case you didn't know, these young men are driven. They are prodigies, the savants, the ones we've been waiting for. Like Damian Lillard, for instance. He doesn't seek guidance or mentorship. He's a leader. He isn't waiting for the baton to be passed to him. He's taking it for himself. He's relentless in a pursuit of greatness, always pushing to one up himself. He is accomplished but far from satisfied. He embodies what it means to have an unstoppable drive and are shaking up the status quo in their community and beyond. And Damian Lillard drives a Toyota. A new generation of Toyota drivers are here and they want you to know one thing. You can't stop my drive.