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Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Robon. It's World Password Day. Tony, do you remember all your passwords?
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TONY kornheiser, of course. And even better, I also remember yours.
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Well, they're easy. You know, they're all 40 and 51. You know who the you know who that is, right? 40 and 51.
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No, go ahead. They're bears, obviously. Butkus is 51, right? Is Butkus 51. Y is Sayers 40.
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There you go.
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Bingo.
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Bingo. You got it, Sayers. What? Cause I just revealed it all.
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Welcome to pti, boys and girls. In today's episode, Jaylen Brown's future, the irrelevance of the Preakness Stakes. And Tim Legler joins us for five good minutes. But we begin today again with the NBA playoffs from last night. San Antonio evened their series with Minnesota by pounding the Timberwolves 133 to 95. And the Knicks again beat Philadelphia, this time without Joel Embiid, but did not beat them into submission as they had in game one. This time the score was 108 to 102. Wilbon which was the more significant result?
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San Antonio, Tony because the spurs had to win down 01 at home already. They simply had to win against the Minnesota team that's got veterans that have been to back to back, you know, Western Conference finals. San Antonio and they came out and they answered, you know, and, you know, as young as they are and as inexperienced as they are, they came out and just took this on and went after the Timberwolves and knocked them into submission, to use a word you just introduced into our discussion. Look, I was at Madison Square Garden last night and of course it would have been more fun for those of us with no skin in the game if Joel had. Joel Embiid had been out there. He couldn't be out there, but still there. The Sixers led that game. I think it was 99, 96 or 96, 93. They led that game and they had every chance to win and they missed 10 of their last 11 threes and most of them were good looks if not open. So I'm not going to say the Knicks were that impressive. They got impressive and timely players from like Jalen Brunson and all that. They did Karl Anthony Towns, but. But San Antonio got back on track last night. That's the bigger deal.
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Yeah, I mean, I find myself looking at this question like I found myself looking at the same question yesterday in the first segment, and that was about what was more impressive, Detroit winning or Oklahoma City winning? And I said neither was particularly impressive because they were both at home and I thought they were both going to win. I wasn't surprised at all. I wasn't surprised at all by last night. Maybe I was surprised a little bit that the Knicks score was close. But you know what, Mike? Joel Embiid misses a lot of games and they play a lot of games without him, and they win a lot of games without him. They just change their tactics.
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They.
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So I shouldn't be that surprised. And I thought that San Antonio would win by a comfortable margin. As I said to you the other day, don't get carried away with Minnesota winning game one because San Antonio had an open three at the buzzer, which could have won the game. I'll just go generally here for 15 seconds. The Knicks are a better team than Philadelphia. With or without Embiid. They're going to win the series. I am curious about if I have this fact straight, if I'm correct, that San Antonio has lost seven straight games in Minnesota. So I want to see game three. I want to see how that works out. Let's move to Jaylen Brown of the Celtics.
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Hard place to play.
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The target center Jaylen Brown asserting his love for Boston. Brown's name has come up in possible trade rumors. And Tracy McGrady said on a podcast that Brown has frustration that, quote, lies deeply within the Celtics organization, unquote. Yesterday, Celtics director of basketball Brad Stevens downplayed any riff with Brown. And Brown himself said, quote, I love Boston. If it was up to me, I would play in Boston the next 10 years, unquote. Wilbaugh, where do you see this headed?
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Wow, Tony. It's a fascinating dynamic going on there because you don't have to have a riff to trade somebody away, particularly in this league. In the NBA, the most famous and greatest players in the history of the game, many of them, Wilt Chamberlain get traded away. They, they, they, they play for multiple teams. James Harden, five teams, I think Kevin Durant, five teams. The great hall of Famers, first battle hall of Famers, they move all the time. And yes, some of them are traded. So you can trade Jaylen Brown you can trade him in Milwaukee for Giannis, and maybe, wow, maybe both teams have an immediate sort of lift from something like that. If I'm a team out there and I know there's at least smoke around this Jaylen Brown thing, I'm calling Boston and I'm going to make them tell me no. If I think I'm close, I think I need a star. Milwaukee, they can't just do this with draft picks. They need a star. I'm calling Boston and I'm saying, hey, let's talk about Jaylen Brown for Giannis. I would do that in any other number teams because Jaylen Brown is that worthy. So, Tony, there's smoke. I don't know whether there's fire, but I think this thing right now is 50, 50. And in this league, no matter what people say, no. Now, trades happen.
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So I had Jaylen Brown, as you know, as my regular season mvp.
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Yes.
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And I don't recall ever thinking that an MVP candidate would be traded like that. But, yeah, if you're going to get Giannis, you can't give a bag of beans. So I understand that. And I would say that even though Brown has declared his love for Boston, the Celtics take this seriously. Brad Stevens comes out here and he declares his love for Jaylen Brown. And Jaylen Brown then says, and I love Brad Stevens, which doesn't mean that Brad Stevens won't make a big move. Here's the thing, Mike. It's the construction of the Celtics, right? All they do is throw up threes. If Brad Stevens believes we can't win this way, we are not strong enough and solid enough in the middle. Joel Embiid just treated us as we were, puny. We don't get to the basket as much as we should get to the basket. We have to make a big move. And he's not afraid to make a big move. He makes a big move. Jaylen Brown can say he loves Boston all he wants. He could end up somewhere else. So could everybody on the team end up somewhere possible?
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And there's also the factor of whether they want to pay two guys who have some duplication of skills $600 million.
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And Jason Tatum want a championship with him. They want a championship with him.
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Tatum is beloved in Boston. It seems to me my time spent there with these two guys Brown liked. Respect that. He's great. Beloved like Tatum.
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No.
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Let's move to your horsies, Tony. Kentucky Derby winner Golden Tempo is not the only Derby horse slated to skip the Preakness. Turns out the 17 of the 18 horses that ran in Churchill Downs will not race in Maryland next week. And the 18th is a maybe. So, Tony, should we blame Golden Temple for ruining this year's Triple Crown drama or blame the racing calendar itself?
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Go get something to eat, because I'm going to take a while on this. Don't worry about it. The Triple Crown is the calling card of horse racing. The casual fan doesn't know anything about horse racing except the Triple Crown. There have only been 13 Triple Crown winners in well over 100 years. It's a very meaningful thing. You win the Kentucky Derby, you win the Preakness, you win the Belmont. You do this on different tracks. You do this at different distances. This sacrosanct the Triple Crown. Except now you know not everybody is running in the Preakness. You can't win the Triple Crown if you don't run in the Preakness. Okay? You can't do that. So you have to consider what's going on here. This is twice in a row and five out of the last eight years. For 100 years, everybody ran it, but now they don't. Horse racing has changed, and it's going to have to accommodate what's going on, because, as you say, owners and trainers are saying, we're not going to put a horse in another race in two weeks. We want more time. And they're going to tell you it's for the health and safety of the horse, which is very, very hard to argue. This should be a simple fix. Mike. You keep the Derby in May, you move the Preakness to June, you move the Belmont to July, you save the Triple Crown. And for people who yell and scream, traditionalists will say, hey, if it was good enough for Citation and good enough for Secret, it could be good enough for Golden Temple. I would say, if you're going to save the Triple Crown, though, don't be foolishly wedded to traditions. Make the thing work. And that's how you make it work.
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Change the calendar. You have to do it, because the weakness is now irrelevant. It's irrelevant.
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That's right. I don't have disgrace. That's all it is.
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And it's too bad. As a resident of Maryland, it's the one I'm most likely to actually pay attention to. But not now. Not of 17.
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Do you know how many people.
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All 18 aren't there.
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Do you know how many people watched the Kentucky Derby? Over 24 million. If you don't put that winner in the Preakness, it's going to go down 3, 4, 5 million. You got to change it for the good of your sport. Let's take a break. Coming up, why is James Harden struggling for the Cavs? We're going to ask Tim Legler.
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We'll also ask him why Austin Reaves struggles so much against the Thunder suffocating defense.
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I keep wanting to say Golden Tornado, not Golden Temple. I keep thinking Golden Tornado.
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I keep wanting to say something else, but I won't even hint it.
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I know you can't. We're off the air. No, no. Golden.
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We have got NBA questions for our great friend ESPN NBA analyst Tim Legler. Let's start with this. The Sixers and the Knicks last night. What does Philadelphia need to do differently to get back in this series? Or is it not possible?
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No, I think it is possible and I think, look, they did a lot right in this game and I said it actually on the call. How many opportunities will you get to be in a one possession game with four minutes to go so you don't know if you're even going to be in that position again. So they had chances, which means they did enough right to win. But there's some things that really hurt them. They're going to have to clean up going forward. I think I would start with the turnovers. You've got to make them play against the half court defense. So when you're throwing the ball carelessly around, which I thought of the 18, I bet you could go back and find six or eight that didn't have much to do with nick pressure. If you're on the road in particular in the future, you got to keep that number at about 12 on the road. You can survive a little bit more at home. And then, look, you've got to get better performances in the fourth quarter out of Tyrese Maxey and Paul George. I mean, they're the two guys that you're really counting on. Both of those guys were really good in the first half. Paul George is incredible to start the game as the game wore on. And part of this is because they play a shorter rotation. Those guys, I think, got a little bit tired in the fourth quarter and they just did not deliver. So sometimes it comes down to that. Your best players have to be better if the game is close.
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Speaking of best players, Tim, let's look ahead tonight to Cavs and Pistons back on the court for game two in Detroit. James Harden had more turnovers, speaking of turnovers, than baskets made. Is this struggle specific to right now in this series? Are we just looking at sort of a continuation, Tim, of Harden's struggles in the month of May?
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I think a little bit of both, Michael. Look, you have to give the Pistons defense credit for what they do. No team, it comes up with more deflection, steals, blocks. They're an incredibly aggressive, active defense. They're very physical. Got a lot of size on the guys that are going to guard Harden and Mitchell in this series. It's tough to shake free from these guys. So. So you have to give them some credit for that, certainly. But I also think there is a mindset about the Cavaliers that has to change. They play too slow in this game. And James Harden is not a guy that's going to push the tempo a ton. Right. But he never really has been that kind of player. He wants to come up and he wants to operate in high ball screen and one on one and. And take his time and break you down and then his passing and scoring and the duality that he represents, that can really hurt you. But when you play that slow against the defense this good and there's not opportunities early in the clock to get Detroit, you know, scrambling a little bit more and you have more time to get a quality shot on that given possession, I think it's critical. They had six fast break points against the Pistons. And the Pistons, remember, this is a team, they also had 20 turnovers, by the way, and so much like the Sixers, they've got to clean that up. The Pistons are a team that can be offensively challenged. So, you know, you need more possessions to make sure that the Pistons, if you're more efficient, the Pistons are walking up against your defense because they're not a great offensive team. You certainly can't turn it over that much. I think James Harden has to be more aggressive, looking for his own offense early in the game. And in general, they have to play faster. You play slow against the defense this good, you're going to struggle to get to 100.
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Speaking of good defense, Lakers gotta go up again against OKC tonight in game two. Austin Reeves three for 16. I mean, are there. Is there some answer to this, Tim? Or is OKC's defense just so good that the Lakers are going to have to live with this?
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Well, there's no question their defense is that good. And I've often described their defense as. When you. If you were to take a camera look straight down over the lane and. And the ball goes into the lane, it looks a lot like when you drop food into a fish tank. That's the way it looks when Oklahoma. Oklahoma City plays defense on the lane, right? It's like piranhas. They just converge. They don't give up driving lanes. They don't leave teammates hung out to dry. They. They're. And they're so good at help and then the speed to recover out, to make the threes contested. So listen, this is an elite defense, a historically good defense over the last two years. But having said that, Austin Reaves missed a lot of time. He's not in great rhythm right now. So that is not best timing for the Lakers to play this defense when Austin Rivers is. I'm sorry. Austin Reeves is trying to find his game. So here's the thing about Oklahoma City that makes it tough. Austin Reeves can't hunt matchups, and he's so good at that. Get a switch. Use his handle and his. His craftiness to get into you, draw fouls and break you down. It doesn't matter in Oklahoma City because you might get three switches on the same possession and you haven't had any drop off in the caliber of defender. And that makes it frustrating for guys like Austin Reeves. Now, LeBron can power through that. Austin Reeves is more about skill and guile and, and, you know, getting you off balance. OKC just has a stable of guys that do a great job laterally containing the basketball. And I just talked about all that help. So it is a great defense. But Austin Rivers certainly is. I keep saying Rivers. I apologize. Austin Reaves is certainly much better than he was in that game, and I expect him to be better as the series goes on. And they're going to have to have it Without Luka Doncic, they can't win this series or compete in this series if Austin Reeves isn't much better offensively.
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We will get you out of here on this. And we go from the practical to the theoretical. Steve Kerr recently floated getting rid of the three point line to diversify basketball. He took a lot of threes in the pros. You took a lot of threes in the pros. How do you feel about Kerr's suggestion?
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You know, the easy answer is to say, hey, now that I'm done, who cares about the three point line, right? But listen, I'm going to take care of my brethren, my brethren out there that make a living off of this stuff, right? But all kidding aside, so, you know, you think about that, what would that look like? You know that this year in the NBA, the cumulative field goal percentage on two point shots is about 56%. From the three point line it's about 36%. So the percentages go dramatically down. But you're not being, and you're not being rewarded with an additional point. So I wonder what that would look like offensively. Would everything be designed to get mid range and in? I don't know exactly if that would be a very fun and entertaining game. So I don't know that I like that answer. Maybe the answer is because there are too many guys, in my opinion, that take the shot. There's too much freedom up and down rosters. I think maybe if you really want to single out the guys that should be taking them, maybe you do bump that line out a little bit. Maybe keep it the same in the corners because there's not a lot of room over there as it is unless you widen the court. But once you get above the break, if you extend that line out a little bit, I do think coaching staffs and offenses will be a little bit more selective about who's taking that shot because it just wouldn't be a risk reward there for the team at all right now. It is there and that is why there are so many threes taken. But I personally like the three point element in the game. I just think we take too many of them.
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It's always great to have you, Tim.
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Always great.
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Thank you so much.
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Absolutely.
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Thank you.
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See you soon.
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Appreciate you guys. Of course.
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Let's take one last break. Still to come, our latest Aaron Rodgers nightmare may be coming to an end.
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Goodness, please deliver me for Aaron Rodgers, an ultra marathoner. Rachel Entricken accomplishes something preposterous.
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Evan Cohen here.
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the moments that live on before and after the game.
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Marriott Bonvoy where gameday checks in.
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Happy time people. Happy 29th birthday. Cam Young Is Young the next big thing in golf? Young has three PGA Tour victories, including two this year, the very prestigious Players Championship and the Cadillac Championship last week where he beat Scotty Scheffler. Young is ranked third in the world and and he's knocking on the door of a major. Finished tied for third at this year's Masters. Last year at the US Open in Oakmont, Young tied for fourth. Finished tied for third at the 2022 PGA at Southern Hills and was second that year in the British Open at St. Andrews. Young's father, David, was the head pro at Sleepy Hollow near New York City, and Young went to Wake Forest where he played on the golf team with Will Zalatoris.
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You want to take Young in the upcoming PGH Championship and I'll take my man Matty Fitz, huh? Head to head we gotta come up with some stakes on this because Matty Fitz having a good spring as well. They both are great. Young has been great.
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Spring, yeah. Happy anniversary Dikembe Mutombo sadly, this is now posthumous, but on this date 32 years ago, the 8th seeded Denver Nuggets eliminated the Western Conference's 1 seed, the Seattle SuperSonics, by winning the final three games of their five game series. Denver became the first eight to beat the one in that format. The most memorable site was Mutombo, who had eight blocks in this game, falling to the court and clutching the game ball with tears of joy in his eyes after grabbing the final rebound. Mike. We knew Mutombo from his days at Georgetown. The country got to know him through his signature finger wag after a block. You loved him, right?
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Yes. Tony Dikembe was about as kind and gentle as soul as I have ever encountered. A true humanitarian. The things he cared about and devoted himself to, financially and emotionally, they're just amazing. And I can't believe the world was a better place with Dikembe Mutombo walking around in it, wagging his finger. And once I saw him hug, sort of pick you up in a locker room and kiss you. One of my all time memories. You remember that during the final when he was on New Jersey. Just a wonderful person.
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Happy trails to the entire field of the Cocodona 250 for Rachel Entrekin. Entrekin beat all the women and men in the 253 mile ultramarathon, finishing in 56 hours, 9 minutes and 48 seconds, nearly an hour and 20 minutes ahead of second place finisher Killian Korth. The field started the race on Monday north of Phoenix. Phoenix and Enterkin crossed the finish line in Flagstaff on Wednesday, looking spry. This despite elevation changes from 2,000 to more than 9,000ft and only taking what she called dirt naps of five to seven minutes at a time. Endrikin's time broke the previous race record by more than two hours and her winning time in last year's women's race by more than seven.
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I find this both incredibly admirable and confusing. Like, why put yourself through this? But that's, you know, that's what beings do.
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Yeah, that's what they do. Let's go to the big finish. The Sabres beat the Canadians in Game 14 2. You happy about that?
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No, because I'm rooting for Montreal. But I'm not gonna be unhappy. I'm never rooting against Buffalo. I'm just. I'm not not doing that. Paul Skeens allowed just two base runners over eight last night. You impressed?
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He's the best pitcher in baseball. Baseball. And he has been from the moment he took the mound with Pittsburgh. The NFL and its officials have reportedly reached new terms on terms on a new agreement. That's significant, right?
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Yeah. Tom, nobody wants to see replacement officials. I'm speaking for everybody.
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Yes, presumptuous.
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NFL Network reports that your boy Aaron Rodgers is going to visit the Steelers this weekend and is likely to play for them. Are you relieved to hear that news?
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Visit The Steelers like it's a tourist attraction. Really? What last one will the Hurricanes go to 70 in the playoffs by beating the Flyers in Philly tonight?
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No. The Flyers stand up the Broad Street Bullies and they win and stop that streak.
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We are out of time. We will try to do better the next time. David Letterman, thank you for watching.
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How about that? I'm Mike Wilbon. Same time tomorrow, knuckleheads. Cubs can win without a walk off.
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