Loading summary
Transcript87 lines
- [00:01]
A
Are all batteries the same? That's like asking if all soccer players are the same. Take Messi, the most decorated player ever. Is there any other player who has achieved that? No, just him. Now take Duracell. Is there any other battery with powerboost ingredients inside? No, just Duracell. Remember, goats only trust goats because they're built different. And Messi only trusts Duracell. Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Lovantoni. Boston police are looking for two men who robbed a children's lemonade stand.
- [00:40]
B
I'm Tony Kornheiser. I'll be honest, Mike. Not our best moment.
- [00:45]
A
No, No, I guess not. I guess it wouldn't be. You know what? I never see children's lemonade stands in the dmv, and I see them quite frequently in Chicago. What is that? Do you see them here?
- [00:59]
B
Am I missing something? I have seen.
- [01:03]
A
Okay, Okay. I have. Good enough. I have.
- [01:06]
C
Yeah.
- [01:06]
B
Not everywhere, but I've seen it. Welcome to pti, boys and girls. In today's episode, Shohei struggles with his catcher. Nelly Corda goes for her third straight major. And Taylor Twelman joins us for five good minutes. But we begin today with the Charlotte Hornets trading former rookie of the year Lamelo Ball to Minnesota for Nas reed, a number one draft choice in 2033. Three pick swaps before that, and three second round picks, Wilbon. Do you understand why the Hornets did this? And how much better does it make the Timberwolves?
- [01:37]
A
Well, the understanding to me is not on the Hornets. It's not. The Hornets can take Kobe White, who can be nearly as productive as LaMelo Ball with a lot less style, and plug him in there and, you know, they get something that they want to move forward. Look, LaMelo Ball's incredibly popular among kids and everybody in greater Charlotte. I mean, everybody in that fan base loves him. But Tony, I don't trust him. I don't. And so if you're asking me to understand this, I got to understand it from Minnesota's point of view. And I understand the purpose. The purpose is to give Anthony Edwards someone who can help him avoid being double teamed every time he walks out of the locker room before he gets upset and wants to Giannis himself somewhere else. I. I got that. But LaMelo Ball, LaMelo Ball misses like an average of 25 games a year. I don't trust him. He's got a bag, a deep bag, as my son says. I get all that, but I don't trust him to be an all star, a great player alongside Anthony Edwards who needs something Else I get that he needs another guard, maybe a guy who can get in the ball, a pass first point guard. And LaMelo Ball can pass it. He can pass it. I don't trust him. And I'm thinking they gave up a lot, the Minnesota timberwolves to get LaMelo Ball.
- [02:58]
B
So I'm going to yield to you on your knowledge of the situation and I'm probably going to track over what you just said. I don't actually understand it from the Charlotte Hornets point of view because they were becoming a good team. If I have this number right. Since January 1st, they were 33, 16. They want a play in game. They appeared ready to launch a little bit and that had centered on LaMelo Ball. LaMelo Ball. 20 points a game, seven assists a game, five rebounds a game. Good shooter from three. And contrary to what you just said, he was reliable this year. 72 games this year after mid. Well, okay, but maybe that's the start of a trend. So maybe there's something there that I don't know about what it does for Minnesota. You're right. I mean, it puts. It takes a lot of the scoring burden off of Anthony Edwards. It is interesting to me that a few years ago, Anthony Edwards was the number one pick in the draft. Lamello Ball, the number three in the same draft. And now they're playing together because it takes years to figure out how these drafts work. But they give up, right? They give up Nas Reed. They trade him. They traded Julius Randle an hour and a half ago. Mike, this is 35 points and 13 rebounds that are going and two big
- [04:10]
A
bodies, two, six, nine guys.
- [04:11]
B
San Antonio, San Antonio and Oklahoma City were being praised for drafting big. Minnesota just went small. Minnesota's trying to catch them again. I'm not sure I understand from either point of view how this necessarily makes you better or more competitive.
- [04:28]
A
Well, Kobe White can replace product production wise. Kobe Whitekin. Kobe Wattskin will score 20 in his sleep. He's already. He can score 20. He already did it last year. Is he going to pass the ball with the flamboyance of LaMelo Ball? No, he's not. Is he going to be more efficient? I think he will. That's why they freed up this money. Okay, we want to keep Kobe White, but again, you give up Nas Reed and you just gave up Julius Randle and you did this before and I get it. Anthony Edwards sees Kat leave, win a title. You know, I mean, he sees these things happening. And it just seems to me, Tony, that the Minnesota seems a little desperate to take the big swing. I get taking the big swing to help make Ant man happy. Is this gonna make him happy?
- [05:14]
B
It might. But they're now gonna rely. They're gonna rely on a big man on Rudy Gobert, who is not much of a scorer and is about to be 34 years old tomorrow. So I don't, I don't like that
- [05:25]
A
part of me size. The west is big. Utah going big, okc, San Antonio huge. And the Minnesota just their strength was size and depth and power. Let's move to last night's drama between Shohei and catcher Dalton rushing. Miscommunication between the Dodgers battery mates in the second inning led to a passed ball and the Twins first run of the game. Later, in the same at bat, rushing tried to dissuade Ohtani from challenging a ball call, only to be wrong when it was called a strike on review. After giving up three runs in the inning, Ohtani took over pitch calling duties himself in the third and cruised from there. Tone what's the word for last night's interactions between Ohtani and rushing?
- [06:17]
B
So my word is pecking order, even though I know that that is two words. The pecking order on the Dodgers is Shohei is first and everyone else isn't. And the catcher after the game, by the way, called his play embarrassing and apologized for it for most of the year. Ohtani has of course, pitched to Will Smith, who's their number one catcher. But he's out now and if you remember the last game, Ohtani allowed rushing to make the decisions as to whether or not they should appeal on a ball strike situation. And after the game he said, I'm going to take matters into my own hands the next time, which is what he did. And he was right in this particular case. And then, as you say in the third inning, and he had already given up three runs in the third inning, he began to call all the pitches himself. And at that point, Mike, for the next four innings, only two players reached base against him. He gave up no runs. He had six strikeouts and the Dodgers won the game 4 to 3. So, you know, that's the pecking order in terms of the Dodgers. I'm, I think Shohei Ohtani gets to do what he wants because he also, by the way, he went 2 for 5 and knocked in a run and the catcher went 0 for 4. So what are we talking about?
- [07:30]
A
It reminds me, I don't have a word. It reminds me of what? I'm going to go basketball here. The great basketball players who seize control of locker Rooms and teams, sometimes by the neck. And, you know, guys, I'm talking about, this is what that reminded me of. It was like, okay, we're teammates, you know, I understand you're trying to do the best you can here, youngster, but just settle down. Let Papa take control of this. And it reminds me of Bird and Magic and Jordan and Isaiah reminds me of those guys because they would have to say to teammates sometimes, just pipe down, you know, I'll take over here.
- [08:08]
B
So on that point, I'll give you another analogy here. He treated the catcher like he was a young caddy at golf, and all he had to do was show up and shut up. That's right, because this guy was picking out the shots, and that's what he did. And cra. With this catcher, yeah, it's like 484. And with Will Smith, it's.074. In fact, let's. Well, he acknowledged it. He acknowledged that he's going to have to be there. Let's move to golf, because we're talking about golf. Nelly Corda is playing in the US Women's PGA Championship at Hazeltine in Minnesota. Corda shot two under par 70 today. Two under. This is the third LPGA major of the year, and Korda has won the first two will Bond. You love Nellie Corta.
- [08:49]
A
I do.
- [08:50]
B
What would it mean if she won three majors in a row?
- [08:52]
A
You start to take your place among the greats. Among the greats. I mean, only a couple of people ever. And the first one is Babe Didrickson, going back, what, 85 years ago, have won three. And Babe Didrickson, of course, won all three. That's all they had then. But this is great. I mean, so many people have not done it. Annika Sorensen didn't do it. Sari Pac didn't do it. And so you're doing something. You're inserting yourself into historical context when the next place for you is the hall of Fame. I mean, that. That's just how that goes. And so Nelly Korda is so great for the game. Toni, when she's out there playing like this, interest is higher, ratings are higher. People in the sport are buzzier. I've been around, you know, I like to watch women's golf. I go to some LPGA events, and Nelly Corda is a huge star. She helps everything rise when she wins.
- [09:48]
C
Yeah.
- [09:49]
B
Yeah. So, I mean, in my life as a sports writer, I occasionally wrote about women's golf. And in my time as a sports writer, the two most dominant women were Nancy Lopez and Annika Sorenstam and I would point out they never won three in a row. I mean, they didn't do this. They didn't do this recently in golf, much like in women's tennis since Serena Williams has left, somebody will bubble up for a year or two, win everything, and then go back down as the next one bubbles up. And in that category, to me would be people like Lorena Ochoa and Sarey park and, and Lydia Ko. But the gold standard was Soren Stam and Nancy Lopez. If you do this and we can go back 50 or 60 years, Pat Bradley didn't do it. Julie Inkster didn't do it. Dottie Pepper didn't. It's very. Only two people ever did it. So it's very, very hard to do. If Nelly Korda were to get this, that would give her five majors in the last 60 years. Only Annika Sorenstam has 10 that would give her five majors and three in a row. And that would be what we would call right now a Scottie Scheffler situation. Right. That you'd be able to start comparing him to the greats of all time.
- [11:02]
A
To the greats of all time. And I'm glad you mentioned Lydia Ko, who's still out there. And I don't even think she's out there. She's 30 yet, and she's playing and winning. And she might be one of those people who could challenge Nelly. It would be great to see, fabulous to see.
- [11:16]
B
But isn't it like tennis right now, where each tournament it seems, it seems
- [11:20]
A
Tony, really great field right now. In the lpga, it's broadened.
- [11:26]
B
There's just no superstar. There's no superstar right now. Let's take a break. Yeah, let's take a break. But coming up, how should the United States approach tonight's World cup game so it does not lose momentum? We will ask Taylor Swellman.
- [11:39]
A
We'll also ask him why the world's best players are having so much success so far. As you know, managing maintenance, repair and operations is never easy. But for the ones who always rise to the challenge, Grainger has your back. From professional grade products you can count on to fast, dependable delivery, they're there to help you keep things running smoothly. Plus, their technical product specialists are here to help answer your toughest questions. And because Grainger knows safety is always a priority, they're committed to being your partner in protecting both your people and your facilities. Call 1-800-GRAINGER click granger.com or just stop by. This episode is brought to you by Google Chrome. You think you know a browser, but Gemini and Chrome, that's new. It can help you with practically anything on the web, like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50 page restoration block. Or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks. Gemini and Chrome is here for it, ready to make anything online make sense. There's no place like Chrome. Check responses Setup required compatibility and availability various 18.
- [12:46]
B
The United States men have already won their group at the World cup, but they are back on the pitch tonight, which makes it a perfect time for a visit from our great friend, the lead analyst for MLS on Apple TV, Taylor12 and let me start with this. The United States head coach Mauricio Pochettino is changing the lineup to apparently keep some of his players out of jeopardy, which he'll explain to us. Do you agree with his decision and do you think there's any risk to the team's momentum?
- [13:15]
C
It's obviously the theme of what tonight is. First and foremost, I 100% agree with the decision because you don't want to cut off your nose, spite your face in a game where the result is inconsequential to anything that you do in
- [13:27]
B
the rest of the World Cup.
- [13:28]
C
I'm not saying the game is meaningless, but the result is inconsequential. So why would you lose one of the four players that are on yellows? If they got a second yellow tonight, they would be suspended in the first knockout stage. If they don't get a yellow tonight, those yellows wipe clean and then you start the knockout stage with no yellows. So Tony and Michael, it's absolutely 100% the right decision. Now the second part to that is I understand why people are saying, listen, if they lose the game tonight, 4 nil, you lose the momentum. No you don't. Here's the meaningful part of tonight. You get answers to questions on how deep your team is, what players coming off the bench you can count on when the knockout stage starts. So you get some answers to a manager that hasn't really used the substitutions in a manner that I thought he would. He'll get some answers tonight on how deep his squad really is.
- [14:22]
A
Taylor, besides the yellows for a second and guys who have one, are there any US players who should benefit from from this lineup change? You're actually thinking I'd like to see them a little bit on the field?
- [14:35]
C
Yeah, absolutely. If Chris Richards is not going to play, which Pochettino has said that he's a staple at center back, well, where's your depth? Is it trustee? Is it Miles Robinson, Is it others? So you need to have a good understanding of your depth in the back. By the way, remember, you get us three talked about this. He brought 10 defenders. Seven of those can play center back. You got to find out which one of those can actually play. Now, Anthony Robinson's on a yellow. So is that Max Arston, who we saw in those games? He's dynamic going forward. If you need a substitute that's in an attacking sense in the knockout stage, can he provide that? Tyler Adams won't start. So is that Sebastian Berhalter? Can he play 70 minutes? There's about three or four players that you're going to get real good ideas on of whether or not in the knockout stage, when you need something off the bench, you're going to find out tonight whether or not that player is capable of doing that.
- [15:29]
A
All right? As excited as we are to watch the U.S. play again, let's broaden this out and get to world stars. Messi has five goals and bop four, Holland four, Vinnie Jr. Four. I mean, is this coincidence that the great stars are doing this or is it something beyond that?
- [15:46]
C
I think it's a little bit of both, actually. I think stars always deliver, and especially when the World cup comes together, you need your stars to really shine the brightest. And I think it's been fantastic early on in this tournament that we've already got that from some big names, quite honestly. Harry Kane should be on that list, but he missed a golden chance against Ghana. He should probably have three goals. However, there's a part of me that says 48 team tournament. So is some of the competition a little watered down that that is allowing the cream rise to the top a little bit sooner than we do? I think this is going to be the best Golden Boot race in World cup history, because I think when it's all said and done, Mbappe Messi, even Erling Hollywood, Norway qualifying for the knockout stage, I think those guys are going to consistently score goals as far as their team goes. I just think the big names are going to be there at the end.
- [16:41]
B
We will get you out of here on this. And it is a big name that we haven't mentioned for. Cristiano Ronaldo had two goals against Uzbekistan. He had been not doing well at all. What changed to make him so effective after such a long dry spell for him?
- [16:56]
C
I mean, Tony, to your point, he didn't score a goal from the run of play in the last 10 major tournament games. That's over 1,000 minutes before those two goals against Uzbekistan. On one hand, I'm going to say it's Uzbekistan. That's why he scored two goals. However, if you look into the nitty gritty and really look at the analysis of how they played in the attacking third, they basically told Cristiano Ronaldo, stay as high up the field as you can, do not participate in possession and play behind the defenders. What that means is in layman's terms, your wide players can play very vertical, they can get in behind, and then Ronaldo has to operate in 20 yard spaces, get in front of goal one time finishes. That's how he scored the two goals. I'm not completely convinced that he has turned the corner, but if they play that way the rest of the tournament, you may see a few more Ronaldo goals. I just think Portugal may be better suited with someone more mobile.
- [17:54]
B
It's a great pleasure to have you on, everybody.
- [17:57]
A
Thank you so much.
- [17:58]
B
Thank you, Taylor.
- [17:59]
C
No problem, guys. Enjoy your weekend.
- [18:01]
B
Let's take one last break. But still to come, don't call Caleb Williams Iceman. At least not officially.
- [18:08]
A
And then that's do it again. And by do it, I mean blew it. So.
- [18:13]
B
Oh yeah, that's another one I watched. I stayed up late.
- [18:16]
A
I was gonna call you because I get a couple of calls, texts from people and they're dying and I'm like, is Tony asleep or is he suffering?
- [18:24]
B
No, I'm staying up after 10.
- [18:29]
A
This episode is brought to you by State Farm. You know, those friends who support your preference for podcasts over music on road trips? That's the energy State Farm brings to insurance. With over 19,000 local agents, they help you find the coverage that fits your needs so you can spend less time worrying about insurance and more time enjoying the ride. Download the State Farm app or go online@statefarm.com like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Introducing Taco Bell's new Jalapeno Citrus Salsa with bright citrus, real red jalapenos, guajillo chiles. Usually you add sauce to the food,
- [19:04]
C
but when the sauce is this good, the food is just there to get
- [19:08]
A
the sauce to your mouth. That rolled quesadilla. Not a rolled quesadilla anymore.
- [19:12]
C
Now it's a sauce shovel.
- [19:14]
B
Taco Bell's Jalapeno Citrus Salsa.
- [19:16]
A
Get it with any item on the
- [19:17]
C
Cantina Chicken menu while it's here.
- [19:20]
B
The participating U.S. taco Bell locations for
- [19:22]
A
a limited time only while supplies last
- [19:23]
B
contact store for availability. Happy time, people. Happy 27th birthday. Colin Gillaspie not nearly as as far famous or accomplished as his Villanova teammate Jalen Brunson. But this past season with the Phoenix Suns, a 6, 1 guard had career highs and games started, 58 minutes per game, 28.5 points per game 12.7 and assists per game 4.6 and as a result, Gillespie re signed with the Suns for four years and $48 million. Gillespie was on a national championship team with Brunson, Mikhail bridges and Dante DiVincenzo at this Is another example of a Villanova guard exceeding expectations. He was two time Big East Player of the Year, yet still went undrafted by the NBA. Well, who's laughing now?
- [20:12]
A
Jay Wright? How good a coach is Jay Wright for winning tonight and getting them ready for later? I mean, who's better than Jay Wright? Recently? The answer is nobody.
- [20:23]
B
Nobody, nobody. Happy Anniversary Steve Carl around this day 40 years ago, the Phillies hall of Fame lefty was granted his wish and was unconditionally released by the club. After 15 seasons in Philadelphia, then 41, Carlton was released just 18 strikeouts short of 4,000 but struggling with a 48 record and a 618 ERA. Carlton did not want to retire and he signed with the Giants. He got the 18Ks there, retired, then unretired four days later and went to the Whites Sox. Carlton pitched two more years compiling a 1221 record with the Giants, White Sox, Cleveland and Minnesota after leaving the Phillies. He's a four time Cy Young winner, two time world champion, ten time all star with a career record of 329 and 244 and a three two two era.
- [21:11]
A
I remember Carlton pitching to Carlton Fisk, Tony because they were on the White Sox. A little stretch of the same thing.
- [21:19]
B
The White Sox.
- [21:20]
A
Yeah. Hall of Famers bow.
- [21:21]
B
That was all lost on me. I don't remember any of it. Happy trails to another sure win for the Nationals. The Phillies were down to their last strike for the second straight night before winning again. With two outs in the ninth. Nats reliever Orlando Ribalta got ahead on Kyle Schwarber one and two before ultimately walking. Washington manager Blake Butera then brought in Richard Lovelady who got ahead of Derrick Hill one and two before Hill hit a go ahead two run homer that proved to be the game winner. Why take out Ribalta? Why bring in LoveLady for a third straight night? I stayed up past 10pm for this. This is even worse than the night before because they didn't learn. The Nats should be 30 in this series and now tonight they face Christopher Sanchez I keep staying up, but it's agonizing. Great games though, Wilbur. Great games.
- [22:05]
A
Richard Lovelady sounds like the name of a Bond villain. I love that name. Cubs swept your Mets. Swept your Mets. That from baseball is all that mattered last night.
- [22:18]
B
They're not my Mets anymore. They were.
- [22:20]
A
You bailed.
- [22:20]
B
Let's go to the finish.
- [22:22]
A
Let's do it.
- [22:22]
B
The patent. The Patent and Trademark Office denied Caleb Williams application for Iceman. Does that make sense to you?
- [22:30]
A
I'm not going to deal with this. I'm happy to have a Caleb Williams and a Caleb Wilson. That's the only confusion. I want care about the other stuff. Coaches Association President J.B. bickerstaff called the Trailblazers coach Mike the Nor's one year contract a slap in the face to our value. Your thoughts?
- [22:49]
B
This is what you said yesterday.
- [22:51]
A
Like word for word?
- [22:52]
B
Yeah.
- [22:53]
A
Ridiculous.
- [22:53]
B
Cub shortstop Dansby Swanson has 15 RBI in the first three games against the Mets. How many tonight?
- [23:00]
A
He doesn't need any. I mean it's ridiculous. No, I think he had 13. He had 11 in the doubleheader alone. Good for Dansby Swanson, who had been benched. And now he's back. Good for him. 40 year old Al Horford agreed to a 2 year, $14 million extension with the dubs. Is that significant?
- [23:17]
B
He's only the 13th player in NBA history to go 20 seasons now. And you think it's significant because. They can get LeBron. Last one. The Pistons traded reserve big Nana Isaiah Stewart to the Grizzlies for three future seconds. Is that significant?
- [23:30]
A
Yeah, but more so. Cause they're freeing up room in Detroit. Maybe for Norman Powell. I'm just saying
- [23:39]
B
we're out of time. Try to do better the next time. I'm Tony Kornheiser.
- [23:42]
A
I'm Mike Wilbon. Same time tomorrow, knuckleheads.
- [23:45]
B
Here at SportsCenter PTI.
- [23:49]
C
You can't reason with the sun. Trust us, we've tried.
- [23:52]
A
This summer, it's time to put that angry ball of fire on mute.
- [23:56]
C
Columbia's Omnishade technology is engineered to protect you from the sun's harsh rays that
- [24:01]
A
can burn and damage your skin.
- [24:02]
C
The sun is relentless. But so is our gear. Level up your summer@columbia.com to spend more time outside and less time slathering on aloe lotion.
- [24:12]
A
You're welcome, Columbia.
- [24:14]
C
Engineered for whatever.