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Mike Wilbon
Pardon the interruption, but I'm Mike Wilbon. It's National Fun Day. Tony. What's fun to you?
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Tony Kornheiser
I'm Tony Kornheiser. Spa days, horseback riding, hacking into someone's bank account.
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Mike Wilbon
Yeah, that's really funny. That's funny. That's good. Cause I'm sure you like I, we can't hack into anything. We could be hacked, but we can't do the hacking.
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Tony Kornheiser
Whatever I get on my phone, everyone else in my house, it's a scam. Don't answer it. So I don't. It's that simple. Welcome to pti, boys and girls. In today's episode, Gino Auriemma wins another title. Alexander Ovechkin breaks Wayne Gretzky's record, and the Lakers pound the thunder. But we begin today with tonight's national championship game between Florida and Houston, two number one seeds. Florida got there by beating SEC rival Auburn. Houston got there with an historic comeback against Duke. Wilbon, is this a matchup you expected to see? And to which team are you giving the edge?
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Mike Wilbon
Tony? No, I didn't expect to see this matchup. I think in my pool, I had Houston beating Michigan State. If I remember correctly, I've been out for a little while now, so, you know, I was okay with one team getting there. I had Houston getting there. You know, I did not necessarily. Even though everybody else seemed to have Florida because they're a number one seed, I did not have Florida. But let me just say, the player I may be most impressed with is, is, is Clayton Jr. I mean, this kid on Florida. Yeah, he is something else to watch, and I can't wait to watch him at the next level. So, Tony, I, I, you know, Houston, I'm going to go with them because they're just so I, I, there's something that is so impressive about Will, and I know everybody else goes crazy over skill, and I appreciate it. I mean, a kid like Clayton Jr has skill, but I'm going to take Will. And Kelvin Sampson seems to have found a way to instill that in a lot of his teams, and particularly this Houston team, because I know people could Say Duke choke. They can, you can make that case. But. But I thought that Houston walked them down and they pressed and they pressed and they pressed until Duke just sort of unraveled with, with a bunch of freshmen while Houston had experienced players. So I'm going to stick with Houston because of that. And I'm light on the Duke choke thing. We could go into Cooper Flag and we could do a whole segment on that. We won't because we're looking ahead. But, but I'm. I'm. I'm going to go with Houston.
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Tony Kornheiser
I'm going to get that. I'm going to look back before I look ahead. First of all, again and again and again. All credit to Jay Billis. He had both these teams in the finals before the whole thing started. So that's great. I expected a different team. I expected Duke, Mike. I expected Duke when they were up by 14 with eight minutes left. And I expected Duke when they were up by nine with two minutes left. And I expected Duke when they were up by six with 30 seconds left. And it is a gag. I'm looking for another word. I don't have another word. That was a gag. Now I get it about Houston. They are a hard working veteran team. They play great defense. They do that. And Duke has a team of freshmen. They are not upperclassmen. All right? And they, Houston, they work hard and they had grind them out games all season long which they won. And Duke had a whole bunch of games which they won by 20 and 25. But I still think it was a gag. I hate to use the word, but I think it was a gag. Sort of like Arkansas against Texas Tech. Mike, they couldn't inbound the ball. They couldn't inbound the ball when they had to do that. That was terrible. Now I think you got to be crazy to pick against Houston. I am going to pick against Houston. I'm going to pick Florida for a pretty simple reason. Florida in this tournament has had a bunch of games where they were losing and appeared out of it, and they won those games. So they don't gag. They're talented, they're deep and they don't gag. And I mean. And Clayton Walter, Clayton Jr. That's his name, right? He's the only guy, Mike, since Larry Bird. 46 years, a guy goes 30 or more in a regional final and the national semifinal. Sadly for me, picking Florida, the final that year was magic against Bird. And that was not a close game.
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Mike Wilbon
That's right.
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Tony Kornheiser
Not a close game. Let's move on. Let's go to the women's championship game from yesterday. UConn destroyed the defending national champion South Carolina, who had laid in wait for this game for months. UConn led by as many as 32. Gino Oriemma is now 12 and one in national championship games. Wilbaugh, what did you make of what the Huskies did and how they did it?
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Mike Wilbon
The better team played up to their standard, up to their level of talent and coaching and all their resources. They did. And sometimes you just see it doesn't take you the whole game. You go, oh, there's the better team. And that was apparent with UConn and, and Tony, you and I talked about this on your podcast this morning. UConn appears that we know they have at least two, apparently two overall number one picks, because Paige Becker is going to be the number one pick in a week. All right? And Sarah Strong, who's only a freshman, however long she's at UConn, if she's healthy and plays, she looks like an absolute lock for a number one pick in a couple of years, whatever that is. And Az Fudd, local to us in Washington, D.C. here to you and me.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, yeah.
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Mike Wilbon
And you watched your mom play. That was tremendous. You had some history there, George. I didn't know. Tony. Az Fudd played great in the Final Four. She played great in this tournament coming off her own serious knee injury, just like Paige Becker's had. And she could be overall number one. And in South Carolina, this addition didn't have that kind of. They don't have a lottery pick. Apparently. When you talk to people who study the draft and study the league and study college basketball, they don't even have a lottery pick. So when you have that kind of lopsided talent disparity, in this one case, South Carolina's had overall number ones and all that stuff, too, just not on this edition. And you have the coach the UConn had. Ding, ding, ding. UConn. They played up to it all.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a non game. UConn was better in every facet of the game. Looking back, it's hard for me to believe that UConn was a number two seed because here's what. Here's what they did. They beat three number ones in a row. They beat Southern California. They beat ucla. They beat South Carolina just in the final four. They demolished the overall number one seed, UCLA, by 34 points. Then they demolished the defending champion, South Carolina. It was by. It was only by 23, but as I said, at one point, they led by 32 in the six games UConn played in this tournament, they won by an average of 33 points. This is the national championship tournament. They went through it like it was Drano, all right. I mean, they were that good. You know, Mike, I say this at the end of that game. At the end of that game, when Gino was hugging the kids as he went down the line and he had tears in his eyes, I thought he might quit. I thought he might say, okay, I'm done. You know, he might say, now I know that Fudd is coming back, and I know Strong is coming back, and Gino will probably come back, but maybe he pulls an Elway, maybe the middle of this week. He says, I'm 12 and one in these things. There's me and John Wooden. I'm out. I'm done.
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Mike Wilbon
No way.
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Tony Kornheiser
I'm wondering.
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Mike Wilbon
Gino's looking for that. And by the way, Dawn Staley had the best word for this. She called it masterful. She called what UConn did to her team masterful. And that's it. Yes, that's the mic drop word, because it was masterful. It was. And now to the NHL's new all time leader in goals scored, Alexander Ovechkin. The Capitol star set the record Sunday with a wrist shot from his bread and butter spot at the top of the left circle. He was then celebrated on the ice by the man whose record he broke, Wayne Gretzky, the Great One. Ovechkin called the whole thing something crazy. Tone, you watched and you watched and you watched and you consumed it in full.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yes.
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Mike Wilbon
What would you call it?
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Tony Kornheiser
Yes, I would call it stunning. Because, Mike, I never expected Wayne Gretzky to be caught and passed with that record. Never. I never expected that. And I certainly would never expect him to be caught by Alexander Ovechkin in the same number of games that it took Gretzky to get all those goals. Mike, I would have thought that whoever caught and passed him would need 100 to 200 more goals.
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Mike Wilbon
Yeah.
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Tony Kornheiser
Wayne, Greg, Alex Ovechkin right now. Yeah, that's what I mean. More games. Alex Ovechkin right now has 42 goals. He's fourth in the NHL. He's 39 years old. He's got 42 goals, and he missed 16 games.
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Mike Wilbon
He's a black with a broken leg.
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Tony Kornheiser
He missed it. And good for him. By the way, the other night against Chicago, they said, do you want to go back in and try for an empty netter? And he said, no, I don't want any part of that.
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Mike Wilbon
Very gracious.
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Tony Kornheiser
He wanted to score a legitimate goal, and he scored a legitimate goal.
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Mike Wilbon
Very gracious. One of us had him scoring two goals against the Blackhawks. Exactly that. That night. He's been gracious through this whole thing. It was good that Gretzky was there, just like Gordie, how. And you and I are old enough to remember was there for Gretzky. And it was Gretzky, Gretzky's father, who said to him, at some point, somebody's going to catch you, and I hope and he, his son, that you're going to be disgraceous. And Gretzky was all of that. And he's been gracious. There's nothing that should be a surprise about that, because that's been. Gretzky is the hallmark of his sort of behavior in sport the whole time, even when he was scoring all those goals and he was leading Edmonton to, what, four championships? That was his behavior then. So it doesn't come as a surprise, but yeah. Ovechkin, Tony. It seemed preposterous to me three years ago when people started talking about it for the same reason, you know, you. You. It used to be, I didn't think Kevin. People got the 37, 38, 39, and they dropped off and said they weren't any good. I remember talking to Henry Aaron about this after it was over, and Aaron talked about what happened to him. 37, 38, 39. But then we've seen people now. We've seen Tom Brady and we've seen LeBron, we've seen Curry. 37, Ovechkin. Yes. So it's an amazing thing that Ovechkin was able to do this in the manner like you point out that he has.
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Tony Kornheiser
And he's still going because he's still a great player.
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Mike Wilbon
Yes.
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Tony Kornheiser
He has not fallen off. Look, I was struck by his belly flop at the end when he scored the goal. I was struck by the exuberance of his teammates. Again, I was struck, as you were, with the graciousness of Wayne Gretzky.
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Mike Wilbon
Yeah.
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Tony Kornheiser
I was struck by the fact that Islanders fans understood what a great ticket this is, and they cheered him. And I was struck by how well the NHL had prepared for this moment. It made me laugh when Gretzky talked about The Capitol's owner, Mr. Leonis. Made me laugh. He got the name wrong. But I. And I thought the ceremony was great. A little bit weird, because in the middle of a game. A little bit weird, but absolutely great. Anyway, let's take a break. Coming up, Victor Robles made a great catch, but was the Giants win the bigger deal?
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Mike Wilbon
Did your World Series team hold on to anybody? And the Lakers crushed the Thunder, but was the Dubs loss to the Rockets more noteworthy? You got anybody one of two goals.
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Tony Kornheiser
39 years old, 42 goals it's like shooting your age in golf. You just don't accept it.
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Tony Kornheiser
It's time for some words from the herds in mail time. I'll reach in here, see what's first. Here we go Mike. More interesting result than the NBA yesterday, the Lakers beating the Thunder or the warriors losing to the Rockets.
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Mike Wilbon
Well Tony, it's hard to separate these things because you got this crazy four way tie now that those two results help produce and you got the Clippers, Warriors, T, Wolves and Grizzlies all tied. Tony and the Denver Nuggets are only a half game ahead of that group and they could join them. So. So I think the answer is the warriors lost at home. See, the Lakers are going to need a split. The Lakers desperately need a split. And they play Oklahoma City again in Oklahoma City tomorrow. And I do not expect a sweep. So if you say to me, net result, that that was a split and the Lakers got one, doesn't matter which one they got. It doesn't matter how much. I think Oklahoma City has nothing to play for. They can't get to 70. It doesn't matter. And they're 14 million games ahead of that pack. I mentioned Houston in second, so that doesn't matter. So they're just out there floundering for a week or so until the playoffs start. But I think the warriors at home going down to Houston kind of surprised me.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, I'm certainly not going to deny that the warriors losing at home is intriguing, right? It is intriguing, you know, and Houston is a pretty good team. But the warriors were coming out of beating the Lakers and beating Denver. And if you were going to have a letdown at all, you were going to have a let down at home against Houston in those three games. So to me, the answer here is the Lakers Oklahoma City was 34. 5 at home. They had not lost a game at home in about one full month. The Lakers are not supposed to win. They may get a split, but they're not supposed to win that one. They're not supposed to win that one. And so I think we can say enough already with people who are saying that Luka Doncic is a liability because they didn't like the way he played against Boris. He had 30 points, seven rebounds and six assists. Whereas your boy Shay Gilgis Alexander, who you have as mvp, mvp, didn't go to the foul line at all for the first time since 2000.
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Mike Wilbon
Not going. But I'm telling that just shows KC was off their game yesterday. They. They took the pedal, the foot off the pedal. It's going to be back on tomorrow, Tuesday night.
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Tony Kornheiser
Here's another one bigger deal from the Mariners Giants game. Victor Robles catch or the Giants winning and moving into first in the NL West.
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Mike Wilbon
Robles catch was incredible. I mean, the fearlessness of it, the courage. People use the word courage in sports and they overuse it. When you run into, even with a net there, you run that full speed to make that catch. The total admiration, by the way. It didn't help the team because the guy was able to tag up and move around. Basically.
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Tony Kornheiser
That's right.
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Mike Wilbon
But the Giants and I hope he's okay. Cause I know he injured himself. I hope he's all right. The Giants, the Dodgers have this historic start and everybody slurped the Dodgers. Understandably so. But the Dodgers are now in second place behind the Giants, who've won seven in a row.
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Tony Kornheiser
You slurped the Padres as well. You slurped the Padres more than the Dodgers.
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Mike Wilbon
Yeah.
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Tony Kornheiser
All right, so let me get to this. It is. You're right. It is a great and spectacular catch.
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Mike Wilbon
It is.
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Tony Kornheiser
He runs into the netting. He comes out looking like he is wounded.
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Mike Wilbon
Yes.
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Tony Kornheiser
Actually wounded. He's holding his wrist like his wrist is broken. That is a great catch. But the truth is, the bigger deal is the Giants for exactly what you're saying. We spent the first two weeks of the baseball season saying that the Dodgers and the Padres were running away from everyone right away. No one was going to catch them, ever. And now the Dodgers lost two to the Phillies and they're eight and two. And the Padres lost two to your Cubs and they're seven two. And the Giants are nine one. And you know what? I feel bad for Arizona and for Colorado having to play in that division. That division is monstrous.
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Mike Wilbon
That's enough, female Colorado nuts.
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Tony Kornheiser
Let's take one last break. Still to come, the Blue Jays fined $500 million for Vlad Jr. And the.
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Mike Wilbon
Knicks get back their biggest star. Why does everybody leave Washington except Ovechkin? What is up with that?
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Tony Kornheiser
You know that the Ovechkin contract is the greatest team friendly contract in the history of sports. In sports. Look at it. Look how long it is and what it pays them.
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Tony Kornheiser
Start with Sta Bil Happy time people. Happy 26th birthday. Yesterday, Milton Williams, the defensive tackle, left the Eagles for the Patriots in free agency after starring in the super bowl against the Chiefs. Williams had two sacks, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery. Then he cashed in big time with a four year, $104 million contract with New England with 76 million guaranteed. The deal makes Williams the third highest paid interior defender in the NFL on an annual basis behind only Chris Jones and Christian Wilkins. This is particularly impressive since Williams has never been a full time starter. Milton Williams is now the highest paid player in Patriots history. Milton Williams, not Tom Brady These highest.
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Mike Wilbon
Paid distinctions are tiresome because they last a week. It's the way money goes. You're the highest paid today, you're not the highest paid in two weeks. So Tom Brady may as well have been retired for 40 years for what this money means today versus yesterday. This guy's worth watching because he's a great player, not because of how much money he makes.
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Tony Kornheiser
Happy anniversary Syracuse. On this day 22 years ago, the Orange, led by freshman Carmelo Anthony and Jerry McNamara, who hit six threes in the first half, beat Kansas for the national championship. It was Jim Boeheim's only NCAA title as a star. Freshman Carmelo did something that Cooper Flagg did not. His reward for that, and an admirable NBA career, if not a transcendent one, was to be elected to the Basketball hall of Fame last week. Carmelo will actually go in twice. Once for his own accomplishments and once as a member of the 2008 United States Olympic Redeemed team. When Carmelo was traded to the Knicks, I always liked the billboards that emphasize the NY in the name Anthony and.
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Mike Wilbon
I always like the way they said his name in Madison Square Garden. Carmelo Anthony. I love that. I hated the way he was cheated out of the Rookie of the Year honors in the NBA when he and LeBron were rookies because guys like you cheated him out of that and said, oh, LeBron's rookie of the year when nothing LeBron did that year was as good or better than Carmelo and not that year. LeBron's transcendent I was with Carmelo then and now as Rookie of the Year, he knows It. He knows it. I have. And he knows you, a Knicks guy, were against him. We've talked about it. We've talked about it.
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Tony Kornheiser
He wasn't on the Knicks then. I had no votes.
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Mike Wilbon
You cheated him.
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Tony Kornheiser
Happy trails to Vlad Jr. Leaving the Blue Jays. Toronto will reportedly sign their 26 year old star to a 14 year extension worth $500 million. Guerrero had said he'd would not negotiate after spring training, but made an understandable exception for a deal of this size. The total amount is the third largest in baseball history behind Juan Soto and Shohei Ohtani, both of whom have spurned the Blue Jays in recent years. By contrast, Vlad Jr. Is Canadian citizen. His father was the hall of Fame star for the Montreal Expos for years. Homegrown by the Jays and wanted to stay in town. And now he will.
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Mike Wilbon
And I'm glad to see this, Tony, because I've been up there. I've seen. Seen what he means in that ballpark to that community and how much the sort of love flows two ways. So I'm glad to see this Signing one.
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Tony Kornheiser
Correction. I got a little sideways on the records. In the NL west, the Giants are in first at 8 and 1. Dodgers are in second 9 and 2. Padres are third at 8 and 2. Let's go to the big finish if we could quickly. Jalen Brunson returns to the Knicks after missing a month with a sprained right ankle. Your review.
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Mike Wilbon
The Knicks can do nothing without Jalen Brunson. He was a little rusty yesterday. That's fine. He was out there. Glad they got him back. Shohei threw a 26 pitch bullpen session Saturday. I know you, you. You forecasting what based on this?
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Tony Kornheiser
Well, they don't expect him back this year, but if he could come back this year, it'd be incredible as a pitcher. Donovan Mitchell rolled his left ankle and lost to the Kings. Is that a big deal?
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Mike Wilbon
Yes. This late in the season with the playoffs staring us in the face and Cleveland's only 6 and 6 in the last 12. After starting the season over 19 with 15 strikeouts, Rafael Devers has gone 10 for his last 19 with only 2 K's. You gotta be impressed.
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Tony Kornheiser
Very impressed. I thought it was gonna be a disaster. It's not. Last one. The Blues are at the league leading jets tonight. Will the blues win their 13th straight?
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Mike Wilbon
No, the these jets are not gonna disappoint like you and Greeny's Jets. These jets are gonna get to the Stanley Cup Final and they're winning tonight.
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Tony Kornheiser
Yeah. Great. LeBron deserved rookie of the Year. We're out of time. We'll try and do better the next time. Shout out to Connor Davis of Bucknell lacrosse.
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Mike Wilbon
Breaking the record that I'm Mike Wilbon. Same time tomorrow.
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Mike Wilbon
What's up?
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Federal investigators raiding two homes owned by.
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